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Anybody have ideas for how to beat BM hunter / healer as necro feral? I thought of maybe trying Circle instead of draught so I can multidot and try to oom the healer, but I'm struggling hard against that comp. 1790 cr.
low gear pvp is fun
sometimes you meet people who dont even know how to press buttons
sometimes you die
CoreX
run at healer with ur healer
are rbgs still the best way to farm conquest
If you win…
idk how to get pvp gear easy man
we have like 39k hp and are just meeting 50k hp people constantly at 1600 lol
until you're conquest capped, you'd rather be lower rating tbh
i mean yeah we both have like 3 pieces
im not telling you to lose on purpose
but im not not telling you to lose on purpose 😉
idk i think just winning is probs better
better than wasting time deranking
we have like a 55% win rate anyway so its not like its a huge issue
@blissful belfry i am a man of the people
Shitpost in feral, theorycraft torghast jn resto
Yeah that trait is nerfed in pvp
You're about to get wardened lol
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Any thoughts on Nature Orders Will leggo being made on head vs wrists? Its my back up when Sleeper is on CD. Better stats on head, both get a socket too. Whats everyone else using? Its for a 262 piece. Thanks!
helm is a dom socket piece and has a higher stat budget so the decision is pretty simple:
if you only pvp and would never get a good enough domination socket piece to consider using over pvp gear, make it helm
if not, wrist
then helm is the better choice, but it'll make pretty little difference
yeah, i am prob over analyzing LOL
you could also think about secondary stat options, but again, pretty small differences
helm gives more stats, over all including secondary. I lean towards helm but wanted some other opinions.
Thanks! I really value this community and appreciate the advice! 🙂
Leggo on helm doesnt give more secondaries, no
It's also probably just 2 more agi
Overall
It makes little to no difference
262 helm leggo and 259 bracers are 114 + 62 agi, 168 + 93 secondaries
262 bracers leggo and 259 helm are 111 + 64 agi, 165 + 94 secondaries
So it's 1 agi and 2 secondaries total of difference
@fast kernel don't sweat it
I'd craft it on bracers just on the off chance that one day you get heroic helm and want to use shards in m+ or something
But it's really meaningless of a choice for pvp
For resto, what kind of macros should I have? I feel like there is so many buttons, and my forms get all fucked up, any suggestions?
+1
Make sure ur cancelform is something easy to press
U can abuse tireless pursuit so much when you get used to it
Something I still need to work on too
Our boy flop just runs at 55% movement speed the entire game cancelforming cheetah
How do the form macros work? Do they let you shift instantly? I’m having some issues with mages shimmer poly ing me and often my GCD is stopping me from shifting. Any advice? I play caster cleave btw
Almost like they wait for me to pop out to cast one spell and then they can begin the poly cast
how gimped is necro feral with all boomy(haste gear)?
yeah I just want the last push to 2100 and boomy is being meh
haste does make the dots tick faster
if I rem correctly
other option is kyrian boomy swap
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@clear pulsar necro
Sounds about right
thx
as night fae boomy what legendary should i use?
@clear pulsar whats wrong homie
i was leaving my house
and u were in torghast
i came back
and u are in torghast
pls
rekt
He did say or so in his opinion neither is massively better 
disc and prot pala
and be super skilled
HAHAH
ah
no
ape
dogs
abusing convoke angel
degans
Time to vaccinate and then sleep boys
The 350 point run is gonna have to wait
Oh just common flu vaccine
Cocaina
and craft voke on legs?
yes
tyty
As resto, what is my dps rotation in games? I find myself not sure what to use. I use moonfire and sunfire and wrath, is this correct? I almost feel like opposing druids never using sunfire on me
sunfire costs more mana
Hmm oh okay, so not really worth using? What if youre running a burst team? Using it is good?
Is wrath casts worth?
iwould say only in 2s
in 3s u have to be rdy to prehot every moment because damage is very high
noob
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From what I'm reading, Stat priority of Vers > Mastery is best for Feral as either covenants?
yes
That's good to hear, I will primarily play 2s with healer or double dps,
Necrolord still a good choice for that?
yeah its great for feral
Awesome thanks. I'll keep reading up on stuff 🙂
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Can soothe be used at all in arena? And if so, against which classes or pets?
warrior's berserkers rage is soothable
that's the only thing off the top of my head
You can soothe spell reflect
Itll keep a rogue or druid in combat if they're cloned too so they dont get a re
Yea bear growl prolly better anyways cuz no mana cost if resto but yee
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any tips how to handle spear of bastion as resto?
up till now i usually war stomp into a clone
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Og if u get caught with no hots prolly fine with just bear after
Stomp clone sounds like a guaranteed trinket kick from any 0 brain cell warrior so prolly good
Nah in bear og bark ur chilling 4 sure
Or just throw up a fat fleshie p
Or just fake the clone n boom warr trinketed a war stomp to kick air lol
Lol
So fucked sum classes just have instant outs to it and others gotta trade multiple cds to survive
Throw spear at a hunter watch em just feign disengage and laugh at u
Which I guess are cds too but damn feels bad sumtimes
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I dont remember being that drunk
I went to sleep, dont even know when and how i teleported to my house
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And i got a msg
That she didnt know my german is so good
The problem is i dont know a single world

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as necro feral, is it true theres a tiny gap in rip uptime if u wanna snapshot it 100%?
Dont know, u dont care about it
In pvp
Minor
Play good and then win
Dont make IT too complex
i swear 80% of the ppl that still plays wow
are pvpers
legit every single person i inspect
they have pvp gear
kinda true
@lime light @smoky sail 3x3 today later maybe?
Tbh idont work tomorrow and tuesday
Do monks have something that absorb a stun from being cast on them or something?
Covenant choice for balance druid wanting to do 2s, 3s and rbgs?
Pretty much any of them work tbh
So if I wanna run feral at some point, I might wanna roll necro?
What stats do feral liek in the pvp? I know the boomies are all a out the vers/haste.. What does the cat like?
Vers / mast
The slots that don’t have vers mast you can get vers / haste and easily run both specs just fine
nightfae still
for rbg
Can anyone confirm or deny for me whether or not deep roots works with mass entangle?
It work
Thanks!
Yo, how much damage does starsurge usualy hit in arena and what if it crit ? thanks
Depends on you. What covenant you are, are you in cooldowns, what buffs do you have active. whats your gear. A lot of factor makes the dmg change
thats for internal factors. then u get the ennemy defensives
kyrian 230 ilvl my starsurges do 5k damage
outside cooldowns no crit?
wtf u mean
ya, then u have 7% chance to crit
as i said, depends what you play. People dont have the same gear, same legendaries
if you play venthyr and you ramp up for 20s behind a pillar and pop incarn and surges after you ramped up, you'll surge the dudes for 25k+
nobody plays venthyr xD
in 9.0 with boat you had pretty much 100% crit in the start of incarn
depends what you play
Venthyr is the covenant for boomy in pve. some people have dabbled with it a little bit in pvp
yeah my boomy is 100% pvp
but as i said, depends on you. 230 is pretty low ilvl for the current patch ,cant expect to hit too hard with it. then, kyrian is exactly the ''high surge'' build covenant
u get good 1 min goes
ye probably and i have another question
do you see the soulbind/conduit dunno that enhance ur nature or arcane damage
both*
when moonfire and the other one
fury of the skies
yup
you mean, do i use it?
astral double dips on it (starsurge, starfall, fury of elune)
well, its not really op tbh
i never played kyrian so idk what yall use
prolly a guide on that in the pins
ye thanks
Feral necro or fae with 1m convoke? Trying to decide which would be more fun
Hm. Is necro that much better that it would just make more sense?
I think so from what I’ve seen. Thanks man
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Feral decent for rbgs? I’ve played up to 2100 and haven’t seen too many, but I’d like to do it
Metaslave
Videogaming slave
I do about 16k crits at 211 ilvl
But im a nf
Might scale diffrently
Better in what way?
A convoke has less potential to sustain dps but its a big oneshot potential.
Necros have more sustained dps.
And tankier
Fleshcraft
Is extremely op
Especially when you can bearform fleshcraft for biggest shield ev
Convoke gets stopped easily in3s
Necro is just better
Overpowered?
I don’t think u know what op means
It isn’t op
Just very good
Fleshcraft is definitely overpowered
It really isn’t only when ur casting it
From the stun immunity
It’s a shield
It matters not when u use it it matters the time that it’s on
And from that perspective it isn’t op
Ok
Cool
And?

If they interrupt it without using a trink for to get out of the stun
Ur just bad at the game
U need to stun then convok
And then u bait trink out of them
And so it’s easier
To win
And trink is 2 min cd
Convoke is 1
With the lego
theres a reason
why all of the top ferals are necro
u arent going to redefine the meta
by calling me bad
;-;
u are just 1shotting noobs at 1400 wtih convoke thiinking ur the best
because necro isnt the best for all specs
but if u look
ppl are starting to play more and more necro
necro ww
necro sp
necro ret next patch
who plays NF war
Hunter nf or kyr
meme'rs and pve ers
Or kyr
Rogue venth
even boom venth
There’s a lot that don’t
And a lot that do
There’s no op conv for all classes
There is one or more
But not 1 for all
ur listing
pve covenants
idc about pve
nobody seriously plays venthyr boomy in pvp
and ofc fleshycraft isnt good in pve u dont need it
u arent going to prefleshcraft a kidney shot in a raid because bosses dont kidneyshot u
this is why pve players are disgusting scoundrels
Some do
Says the pvp andy
get out of this channel
i would never pve not in a million years and i will never step my foot into any raid even if my life depended on it i will never give up and i shall press on against all odds
i shall root out all of the pve scum in this channel
cringe
Think about a good minmax fleshcraft with conduit + bm + Stam buff is 80k+
So u can legit tank a full convok loosing 0 hp
Gg necro better
That's all
Cant do emblem anymore and swap trinket after
It removes the shield if you swap trinket
5heaD
And shield stay
Anyway it's minmax even if u don't do it there's a reason why all feral top ladder are necro
Ok I believe u
U will never convoke free in 3s with >1 braincell ppl
Dont bother bro

Play whatever u like
Didnt ask
Neither did I.
idc if u call me andy you slimy scoundrel gremlin hooligan
Okay bye
Ik what u are, ur a paladin

100%
OK lmao
Look like m'a Boi fuseton awc win rate
Or even a opinion
pve scum will be rootd
maybe i should level my monk
so i can prove to this guy hes the most pathetic pve'er in existence
Bro play ww
This is why I should’ve stayed in the warlock sv because there people aren’t toxic for no reason.
No ww I'd have to level @smoky sail
pussy ass cringe ass slimy ass cheeto dust lickin oomba loompa lookin gremlin
Ha fk
The woyer was already 60 from start of shadowlands
You cant beat shit mf you're 1200?????
U just dead on the ground
Omfg
Yes sry warlock is the worst class ever this patch
Ok cya I gtg calm to some tomb of sargeras music
Lol what?
Yes?
Ok cya
Lmao

1900 demo lock alt reporting in
y'all just got trolled
delusional warlock 
Atleast now we know
That warlock is OP
Anybody wanna carry my 200ilev warr?
@feji
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what did i miss lmfao
DN
What do people use to track bleed/dot timers, energy and combat points on their ferals?
plate fly buffs
NA
WW Monk
Horde
LF Glad push 2200 CR, S2 Elite. Dm me 🙂
warlock literally the most unkillable class like wdym
and a big ass burst
just bcuz theyre not the 8.3 monster they were doesnt mean they are bad lol
Locks scare me ☹️
Locks are bad
That's what locks says
Rogues are bad
That's what rogue says
And my favorite
Ww monks are sqishy xD
That's why they are bad
Locks are hooligans rogues are scoundrels and mages are disgusting swine
Ur forgetting bm
I think id rather play against we than bm
What is counter to bm
Big dam
Roll them down
Dont Play pillar
Dont run away
Press w
Ofc if u are a warrior rsham into bm
U lost
Or necro feral
U lost
But ww is the biggest no skill broken Claas in whole game
Nerf proc DMG by
75%
Nerf necro brew by 50%
Still god class
Am i the only one that miss bfa ?
Yeah you are
Any roots reduce ww dam by 70%
And they’re squishy af
-WW Main who hates bm hunters
I personally play kyrian ww tho with serenity. So my spinny procs don’t do any damage really at all. Necro is just super bullshit I don’t like it at all.
Fuji I got the rogue when u left lol
oh shit i knew i remembered the name from somewhere
Did they just give resto an immunity?
hahahahahahaa
Seems like it's 50% on PTR. Wonder which is current?
If it works like Greater Fade then you should still be able to kick it, but it creates a strong defensive option if that's not available.
It's funny that ww is only getting a 16% nerf to sck
So instead of 100-0 you in half a cast
It'll take 60% of a cast
This is pretty good
Just tested the new tranq talent on PTR and it is effectively bubble (can't be CC, interrupted, dmg)
I need to find a priest
Let me record the tranq
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im 1800 in 2s and 1700 in 3s, but my vault is giving me challenger gear so far? do i need to play some 2s at 1800 to get rival gear in vault?
Maybe necro nerfs make fae more viable
Yes vault is based on best win at that given week
thanks. didn't realize that
My necro shield went from 47k on live to 36k. Still good
But also reduced further if used before gates open IIRC
nah
that meant like you cant bearform fleshcraft before gates open
and other temp health buffs
although the wording is kind of vague, like what if you just stay in bear until gates open, then switch after?
the way i read it is like
now ur gonna wait till gates open
and do ur cheese shit with ursocs
and bear
not much changes
just 10% weaker
Big nerf to str
Unforch
They buffed rdru
Lmao
I cant belive its real
Ww only 50% nerf
Warrior untouched
Bm untouched
Str of the wild
Crit reduces from 100%
To around 30
Plus your crit
So around 50%
how bad does balance feel with feral stat prio, like mastery/crit instead of haste/mastery
verse is main stat
i meant the other ones
i am currently verse/mast
what do you think about rbg
only place ill be playing balance
bet
that keeper of the grove buff is nuts
they just gave rdruid a channeled immunity lmao
Is there any special haste-level to go for as Rdruid? I've been going for maximising vers on all sockets/enchants, but I see a lot of haste gems and some haste ring enchants.
Ye 20% feel nice not rly need to go higher
ok ty

they are nerfing swarm tbf
imo they should increase the mana cost of all healing spells by like 30% but also increase the healing by 10%
Legendary
Hoooow
Bubble as rdru
I dont understand this
U already cant be cced
Or killes
And u getting bubble
Hooooow
Pogey
Iam legit spam healing and my disc is dying to double melees
I wonder how fast
He is gonna die
Now
Hopefully it’s 50% like it says on actual ptr will still crit after first heal but probably wishful thinking
anyone know what happened here?
this character has 9% vers but im not sure how the rogue 100-0'd me in 2s
and idk if he couldnt kill pod because this is 1600 or if he had no damage
nvm worked it out, think he was playing the vanish leggo
Rogue did that to me with 36% Vers too
no way. rogye players tell me all the time they are the worst class in the game!!
it looked like sepsis -> vanish -> vendetta -> double envenom
checked after the game and the first envom must have crit for 25k
wtf is this game
why did double warr just win vs feral priest
they one shotted my healer in a fear
at this point id rather be a tik toker than play this bs
Tranquility protects you from all harm while
from all harm
but does it stops interupts
or its just a dmg immunity but u can be stopped
Stun stun tranq
now they need to make it usable while stunned
I want a rdruid pvp talent where overhealing builds a shield for a portion of the extra
hihi
Bank
they shouldnt nerf the tranq talent imo
rdruid basically has like no defensives except for bear form, a shitload of move speed, fleshcraft
its only fair
XD
@lime light retwarr soonmby?
if you lose to double warrior in 2s
I wouldnt really blame the game
TRUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
yes
pls stop doing torghats
kyrian so op
So why dont u play 
how can u even be close
to killing someone
withoput divine toll
i dont understand
how can u die to ret that isnt kyrian
u just press on wings
The necro spell adds like
and u cant die after
Not as much damage as divine toll
But like 70%
But like
Fleshcraft is so op
I'm memeing but
I think necro pala is good
Negativ
Without weangz
Wog is awful
@clear pulsar next patch necro will be 70% of divine toll i think
Its getting big buffs
no
Its true
Idk
Its supposedly critting like 25k
or swap
I think divine toll is a bit overrated tbh
Imean
The necro spell does like 13-15k damage per setup, it's not that much worse than divine toll
Every 1 minute you can kill someone randomly in 2-3 globals
Yep
plus the renown upgrade on it
And the thing is that
so the chance for
U get full holypower to spam final vredict after op DT
16.1k non crit, and u can do 3 of them
legit can force every cd
with 2 button press
that 16k will be on a totem
absolutely no chance ever that he hit a player for 16k non crit
why, are conduits not spec specific
like hey i want to play balance and feral, i have to choose which spec ima lose 2 potency conduits on
ye i just have to sit there if i want to swap on the fly
Doesn't it fill up all 10 now?
Yea think it's 10 in total
Somehow was prolly easier to hotfix than remove cap

Gg
does spamming moonfire make the dot not tick?
no i didnt rly look lol
If i go necro on my drood now, do i need to do class campaign again?
if youve never been necro before, yes
Are you?
You're the one who knows
Doesnt matter
If you havent done it on the druid you have to do it on the druid rn
like you said those are other characters
how would your druid know if your monk was necro lol
Wel wel prob need it fo renown annyway
The campaign gives 2 renown per chapter so
You should grind the first 40 thru other means
Since it's guaranteed from everything until then
And do campaign last
ya campaign last for sure
idk tbh
my friends are going to play so i figured i'd come
bought it last night to download it
😠
cant expect blizz game to be smooth on launch come on

my discord did that thing where it was 10s of messages behind
and then instantly updated once I posted
so I was responding to something a while ago
so

omamale
any feral bleeds WA?
just bleeds that is, i dont want a ton of bars for everything
some of the ones im seeing on wago are old / have problems
hm that could work, problem is i have nameplate cooldowns already, so a lot of stuff above heads
i can send u mine when i get to my pc
thanks man, would appreciate that
guys does moonkin ret works well in 3s ?
guys is bloodtalons 100% for the 1 min convoke build or is it ok to run frenzy? also can convoke use frenzy if it isnt talented?
it wont use ff in pvp anyways
oh so a benefit of frenzy + 1 min convoke would be you get a second frenzy with it?
Convoke doesnt use ff in pvp
As he said
When is people playing bloodtalons?
i use it for convoke build cheese sometimes cuz big bites, but idk if its actually good
@covert chasm
Ty
so shackles vs haste trinket for kyrian boomy? I am running setup comps
could also use burst badge
Would go badge for setup comps
yeah feels like the best
especially since it lines up with fury and lone empowerment
Yes you can both, pvp as venth and be stun
venthyr boomkin can be scary if the other team let you just pump
you won't get stunned as long as you keep moving, the stun from frenzy won't happen if you're in a full loss of control effect
is there a weakaura or something to help me see the main beastmaster pet?
Like a wa that puts a star on the nameplate
I think it's the one with the largest focus bar? 120/130 or so?
yeah but it doesn't show on the nameplate or at least on my platter
plater just show full focus bar for both
oh that i don't know, sorry
Probably better to just figure out how to display the focus
Also, it's always the raptor if he has two different pets. A good bm would just run two with the same name but if not there's a quick answer
yeah I'm trying to do that
hey does wicked claw give you 30% or 40% ms slow?
since it applies two stacks of infected wounds
Yes
Is there a link to pvp burst rotation for nfae boomies? Especially when cc'ing enemy healers and opening on efc
omamale
So a thing about ice veins is that they need to clarify in their burst damage setup that you need to dot the enemy first. I've heard someone say its better to use moonfire then convoke. Does that hold any merit?
Icyveins pvp guides are garbanzo beans
What's a better weapon for Feral? Heroic Jotungeirr or the conquest polearm lvl 2?
the higher ilvl one
Okay thank you. I just didn’t want to waste 1.8k conquest
if u are nf, and the games are super fast smh
low rating or double dps comp
u can use it
ohterwise not worth
Not jotun
Jotun is nerfed
It's bad
Use pvp weapon
Psure jotun is nerfed 50% in pvp
Oh I didn’t even know that
Also is it normal to feel useless against rush comps? Like Restro Shaman, Warrior/DK, DH/Ret/WW?
no
heala run
dont die
taunt elemental
from your healer
go away
spam moonfire clone
offheals
go melee only for maim/ff/rip refresh
taunt root him away
Or is it more my comp? Feral/Holy Pally/Warlock
comp is fine, but warlock without 2nd caster
isnt as good
but glad viable ofc
just need to offheal him a lot
and spam cyclone
You suggest switching pally for shaman?
warlock for mage at this point
Or warlock for maybe monk?
thats some mongobongo
cleave
legit the comps that are good as feral are
bm jungle by far the best
then survi jungle
then fmp fmpala
kitty cleave
and after that fmp fls flp
or fps
pretty much find a bm hunter
and a disc or hpriest
and enjoy the most no skill comp in the game
where u just press W
and win
Thank you btw. Pvp is one of the areas of this game I have no idea about.
no
I’ve just been stuck at ~1500 in 3s and feel like I’m slamming my head into a wall
play 2s
You should look for more significant ways to improve
Comp covenant talents all this bullshit is tangential
play 2s with a healer
Play games, record, review, show others if you must
does shaman earth ele leggos earthquake break hex
just stood in it for like 4s and it didnt break lmao
how to deal with rouges?
do u mean 1v1? i don't see much to do against them except lose and cry
cool. thats what i figured
maybe im just bad, but I feel pretty able to 1v1 any class except rogue yeah
i just feel like i cant trinket.
well u obv wanna save it for blind, but it also feels really tempting to trinket a full kidney sometimes
i just have issues with them resetting until they are set up to 1 shot me
obviously i try to do the same with convoke / him having no trink
but he has more tools
to set it up
Back in ak and better than ev legendary
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@edgy shale Are you talking about as feral or boomie ?
feral but i guess it applies to both
Sometimes I have won against rogues in 1v1s simply by a well placed shadowmeld lol
Yeah the game is overall quite silly with the burst thing so it's hard to get mad at yourself sometimes






