pvp

[tropic panther]

yeah but if you do rbgs with no ilvl/pvp gear you just get into shitty groups because of your bad w/l

[arctic rivet]

I mean Kyrian Timeworn have already outshined NF BOAT boomies

[cold escarp]

NOT TRUE

BOAT > Timeworn

[arctic rivet]

Not anymore in patch 9.1

[tropic panther]

depends on the match up and what you're playing with

[arctic rivet]

Its gonna be like the DS nerf for dks

From 40% to fucking 20%

death strike is complete fucking garbage rn

Same shit but with Boat

[cold escarp]

ye boat will suck but thats months away my man

[arctic rivet]

Literally almost the same percentage nerf too

I wanna be prepared for 9.1

[white sun]

can someone explain the difference in empowering yourself vs another dps?

[arctic rivet]

So I went Kyrian timeworn

[green valve]

Dont think any class can kill em now

[tropic panther]

lol

spriest can i'm sure

[arctic rivet]

Mop mw all over again

Or bfa mw

I was already annoyed at MW’s mobility that they can just run away

[green valve]

I dk man, they either port stuns, or get an auto 40% wall and have cocoon on a 1 min cd

[arctic rivet]

So... this might be toxic tbh

[green valve]

And magic immunity

Like tf you gonna do to kill it

As anything

[cold escarp]

happy for them

i have a bud who plays MW so im gonna abuse )

[green valve]

Same lmao

Hes been playing hpal but he kinda sucks at it since nerfs so im all for it

[arctic rivet]

At least they aren’t gonna be melee kirby tier

Hpal kinda slowly is dying

Soo many nerfs its becoming the worst healer now

Rn is like this
Resto Sham > Holy Priest > Disc Priest > Resto Druid > Hpal > MW monks

[green valve]

All i really hated at its peak was fucking like 10 second ultimate sac

[arctic rivet]

The next patch Hpal will be the worst healer

[green valve]

Dumbest shit ever

[blissful belfry]

if u dont care bout cr, fastest way to grind conq should be double dps 2s / triple dps 3s. U just win or lose in 30s and queue again

farm farm farm

and the worst thing i can think of is farming conquest in 2s with a healer

fuckin 10 min games just for 25 conq on a win

[proven axle]

im kinda new to resto in pvp, so im not confident about swapping into cat form to help my dps. if i use the pvp talent that puts all hots on the dps, will that outheal most dps done to them, or do i still have to be wary of them dropping?

[blissful belfry]

overgrowth isnt a pvp talent anymore

its a normal talent

[proven axle]

oh right, my bad

the question still stands though

[blissful belfry]

as for how healing goes. it depends who you are facing and what cd they are using

weaving some help with feral affinity requires a really good understanding of the game.

gotta know if the ennemy have cds/stuns ready to swap on you if you push in, gotta time it right so your dps dont die. it exposes you to cc so you have to be ready

lot of things to consider when feral weavng as resto

[proven axle]

i can tell haha, at the moment i am focusing on healing a lot while making sure i cc with stuns and cyclone when we can get a kill

[blissful belfry]

i would probably save overgrowth for after you push in as an emergency

[proven axle]

but on a very basic level

[blissful belfry]

like, full hot your dude. cat form bang bang. when you come out you can quickly og him to rehot him full

if there is pressure. otherwise you save it

[proven axle]

i see

that clears up a bit, i guess i just gotta test things out

thank you!

[blissful belfry]

yeah its about practice

because it changes depending what comp you play with and what comp you play against

Against comps where you feel like you might be the target. Its better to be guardian. If you know you'll never be focused or peeled when focused, you can go cat and find some windows

lets say i face turbo cleave (warrior enhance) or frost dk/war. Im not going to push in cat form on them. its just asking to be swapped to and cleaved

[proven axle]

yeah that makes sense, i suppose in a resto arms comp i would be the target often?

[blissful belfry]

in 2s you are safer because only 1 dps can swap on you (unless they play double dps). And arms intervene is really good to peel

so you can be relatively safe

[proven axle]

oh thats right, thats huge

[foggy ravine]

most of your pressure from cat form is from the stuns not the actual damage

maim/rake

[cold escarp]

why tauren sims higher in pve than troll

[clear pulsar]

Cuz boat convoke

[cold escarp]

taurens have some interaction with boat?

[clear pulsar]

You're not the brightest huh

[cold escarp]

no

i dont play horde ever

disgusting faction

[clear pulsar]

Do you know what the tauren racials are?

[cold escarp]

yeah stun

[dusk escarp]

Vers

[clear pulsar]

Yeah the stun buffs convoke by 30%

It's not vers lol

[viscid remnant]

crit damage

[dusk escarp]

I thought hmt has a little vers

[viscid remnant]

https://i.imgur.com/E8xbhvL.png

[dusk escarp]

Idk tho I’m a scrub

[clear pulsar]

No one is talking about hmt

[dusk escarp]

Oopsie

[clear pulsar]

But same thing

Convoke doesnt scale with haste

[cold escarp]

oh that is pretty cool

[clear pulsar]

And CAvoke with boat is a very large portion of your damage

[cold escarp]

i wonder if it still sim higher after BOAT removal

[clear pulsar]

Bro it's like 40 dps

[cold escarp]

:)

[viral granite]

whats the best way to gain reknown after swappon cove

[arctic rivet]

@cold escarp how fucking dare you

Horde for life

If you don’t like the nasty of Horde be a Blood elf

[ashen smelt]

I found bgs to be incredibly fast as long as you're winning

[arctic rivet]

Oh wow

Ok I thought the main reason why most go Tauren druids was the warstomp

For a safe and efficient way to cyclone someone

While the brawn is just an extra

[cold escarp]

blood elves cant be druids tho

[arctic rivet]

Be Zandalari Trolls then

Or Tauren

Bec Taurens are the good bois of the Horde

[cold escarp]

why is there no mastery + versa 1 hand in conquest shop

[arctic rivet]

Tauren master race

[cold escarp]

is it only for NF?

[arctic rivet]

Thats why I go 2H

I personally dislike DW

I much prefer 2H

[cold escarp]

yeah but there is no 2h mastery either the fuck

do i really have to swap to NF just to buy weapon and then swap back

[arctic rivet]

I mean....

I just use 2H wep for damage really

[lime light]

Pls calm down

Or i will have to call a mod

[cold escarp]

[arctic rivet]

Lol

[lime light]

https://tenor.com/view/baboon-phone-cellphone-busy-on-the-phone-gif-4657341

[cold escarp]

can i speak to the manager please

[arctic rivet]

What are ways to deal with DHs?

[stray sigil]

here i am

whats the problem

[arctic rivet]

Well now its a lot easier as Kyrian but

What do Boomies normally do to deal with DHs?

They are annoying

[blissful belfry]

root em. clone em

kill em

[cold escarp]

in 2s?

ur only way is kill their healer

because all their defensive lines up with ur burst

on point trying to kill em

no

[arctic rivet]

But what about CCs like clones?

Or incap roars

[clear pulsar]

Yes use those

[arctic rivet]

Ok

I rarely fought DHs so sometimes its a surprise and idk how to deal with them often as Boomie compared to Dk training them

[cold escarp]

any Dogecoin investors here?

[arctic rivet]

Used to, changed to Ecomi for the potential boom

[cold escarp]

Doge is on huge raise past few days

[arctic rivet]

Ik doge spiked to 12 cents now

Yeah

[cold escarp]

my only regret is that i didnt buy more

but i have some doges left overs

[arctic rivet]

Doge is very unpredictable is the issue

Since its a meme coin its kinda hard to tell when will it spike or dip

Meanwhile Omi with actual backgrounds with the 3d figures if it goes main market....

That shit will explode

[cold escarp]

every coin is meme coin when u think about it hard enough

they all rely on ppl trusting them and nothing more

i just wanna make enough on crypto to never work again

and then i bail

[arctic rivet]

No some are from actual company who just wants to make a decentralized currency that has a good history

Etherium and Bitcoins the 2 flagships are an example

[cold escarp]

bitcoin is not decentralized anymore

theres very little bitcoin that isnt sitting in a platform

because a whole bitcoin is so expensive

and platform = centralized

[orchid badge]

Playing Feral Fae in 2s with Sym, I understand my opener is Rake Rip TF FF Bite, do people usually use Berserk on the opener or save for a later go?

[lime light]

Both

[brave shuttle]

what is ray of hope from priests

it just 1shot my sp for 45k

does that make sense?

[weak hinge]

Google the ability

[brave shuttle]

just did

fun times

[weak hinge]

He mcd and then cast it on your sp

[brave shuttle]

ye

[weak hinge]

Track the buff

Purple bad. Yellow good

[brave shuttle]

haha

[weak hinge]

Keep it yellow

[brave shuttle]

thanks

[lime light]

Mc Ray of hope mindgames

Kaput

And there is nothing they can do

[blissful belfry]

cant they just right click it off

[stray sigil]

@clear pulsar whats the leggo ppl use in m+

also inv back to guild u fuck

[fallow root]

Using fearful eye right now, is NOW more useful?

I like the rapid big bites I can get with fearful eye but I’m squishy

[fallow root]

I saw a video where I guy said to rake stun, then 1 combo point rip, then FF and start with your bites. I always zerk + badge + tigers fury in my opener
I’m still confused as to why we do a 1 cp rip

Might move over to Necrolord though. Convoke is clutch when you get it off but people are so wise to it that you can’t even convoke as a feral in random BGs half the time.

[foggy ravine]

cuz tf gives you 2 cps on your next two finishers

so if you tf before a 1 point rip you will have 2 points before FF which gives you 5

so you waste it essentially

[fallow root]

I see

[foggy ravine]

but you TF before ff for the damage bonus

[fallow root]

But why the 1 cp rip in the first place

[foggy ravine]

so you dont waste your 1 point from rake + its extra damage in the open

cuz you are opening with rake stun

[fallow root]

I see

Yeah I’m totally an idiot
Lmao

Didn’t think of that

[foggy ravine]

nah you just didnt see it at first 😄

[fallow root]

What’s the deal with everyone going Necrolord?

[cold escarp]

fleshcraft op op

[stray sigil]

its mostly people wanting to play a different style

not necessarly better

than kyrian per say

just different

[cold escarp]

nah its better

stop lying

STOP LYING

if it feels better to play its better

[fallow root]

I’d go Necrolord, but I bear tank in PvE, so I’ll probably stay NF

[stray sigil]

its not better

its different

kyrian and necro are pretty similar

ur less "tanky" i suppose on kyrian but thats it really

[cold escarp]

whole day of 2s

on 180 ilvl chars

2s is a mistake

[blissful belfry]

what comp you rollin

1550 isnt bad tho is it? thats like 3 whole weeks of conq cap

[cold escarp]

ye

holy pal boomy

we got to like 1400~ rate

without a single conquest item cuz we both save for wep

[blissful belfry]

make that ret boomy and u farm conquest twice as fast man

[cold escarp]

i know but my bud is lazy to do ret binds

[blissful belfry]

rating might go down tho

binds?

[cold escarp]

keybinding

like put spells on bars

[blissful belfry]

its 3 button

i know lol

xD

i meant ''binds'' like, what binds does he even need

pop cd, toll, reckoning verdict

[pale field]

does anyone know of a really good write up or guide that break downs the LSD arena comp?

[cold escarp]

idk like all of them i guess

never played pala so idk

[summer cliff]

Are people starting to glance at necro as feral for high sustain?

[stray sigil]

necro is similar to kyrian in terms of single target for feral but gives a different playstyle

u prob have more globals to spare with necro

but its not like its that much better or anything

[sick arrow]

Does it take ages to get renown back up to max if you swap covenants? Thinking of going from night fae to necrolord

[pale field]

ive been considering the same thing pylo, from what ive heard and read it takes a few days to get your 40 renown back when you make the switch to necro. and if you switch back it possibly takes a couple weeks for the fae to trust you again. ie. you get all your renown back but it takes a weekly reset to do 2 weeklys or something.

[stray sigil]

@sick arrow def takes a couple of days its not instant

u get to like 20s fast

but then it slows down

[sick arrow]

Doesn't sound that bad

Convoke just feels so dead in arena as resto lol

Plus flesh craft and the conduits

[fallow root]

Convoke is hard to pull off as feral I’ll tell you what

I usually do it with a 5 cp maim after they’ve already used trinket

But even then

[tall knoll]

You can spam heroics or m0 for renown. Until like renown 28 or something, then it slows down and you dont get renown out of heroic dungeons anymore i believe

But getting to 30 for all the soulbinds is not that bad

And you have to complete the campaign again

[cold escarp]

if ur not pushing rating no reason to not try it out

[tall knoll]

Yeah switched to kyrian as boomie a few weeks ago. So worth it

[cold escarp]

yeah i got both kyri and NF maxed

this way i dont have to worry if meta shifts

i can just swap

[fallow root]

I’ve got NF maxed and that’s it

[tall knoll]

I did m+ the first few months so no choice really but to go nightfae at the beginning xD

[stray sigil]

i got all 4 maxed

[cold escarp]

based

[tall knoll]

Even venthyr?

[cold escarp]

id do it too but i dont play f*ral

so no point

[stray sigil]

yup even venthyr

i did some 2.8 venthyr q 2 weeks ago

was uuh

not ideal

[cold escarp]

[tall knoll]

Kinda works in rbg as boomie to aoe burn the healers mana down in big teamfights

But not having to setup everything perfectly for convoke just feels good. Just pressing dmg button with foe and go. Plus having the option to go dreambinder is great

[rigid cargo]

Is kyrian good for feral btw?

I mean if want push some arenas.

[fallow root]

Yeah it’s one of the better covs. I think they’re all good except venthyr

[arctic rivet]

about to make my dreambinder lego chest

so Verse/Haste right?

[stray sigil]

@rigid cargo kyrian and necro both really good nf is ok venthyr is garbanzo

[arctic rivet]

Guys so help plz

Just to be 100% sure

Kyrian boomies stat priority is Verse/Haste right? Thats the stats I need for my dreambinder leggo?

@clear pulsar sorry for the pin but I do need to be sure just incase before I make my lego

[teal hinge]

Mastery isn't bad either for bigger surges

[arctic rivet]

Just wondering if there’s a difference between NF or Kyrian Boomies when it comes to stat priority

guess I'm going Haste then

[teal hinge]

Some people say more haste for faster clones. I prefer more mastery for big donger surges. Varying opinions if you ask a group of people

[tall knoll]

@arctic rivet its the same thing in nf vs kyrian. Bigger surges vs faster clones ans gcds. Pick what you want really

[smoky needle]

Hey guys, missives for sleeper are vers and mastery..?

And sleeper goes on feet? or does it not matter

[smoky needle]

2 CC breaker trinkets a good idea?

[cold escarp]

dont work together

[quartz marsh]

saw a dh run it in a rbg

[smoky needle]

you cant use two?

[cold escarp]

i think they just share internal cd

[quartz marsh]

30s yeah

[smoky needle]

so maybe medallion and this?

[cold escarp]

the top boomies run haste/versa but nothing is set in stone

we have constant discussions about this topic here

its too close to tell for sure which one is better

[quartz marsh]

high haste will always feel more fun to play atleast

less clunky

[cold escarp]

i tried full haste and the burst feels lacking so now i play 14% haste and then all into mastery

14% feels fine to get clones off

but again this is just arbitrary number i picked, theres no set in stone science behind this

i'd love if there was a way to test gear like a tournament realm or something

[mint schooner]

Pvpleaderboards is showing most ferals going necrolord now is it that much of a better option than the others now?

[river sparrow]

What's the best way for a guardian to handle a rogue capper who uses the smoke bomb thing to not be targetable at range

And lure you into a 7 sec cc to trink and then 7 sec cc again, is there a better way than using Sleeper, like i've been doing?

(to cap bases that is)

[quartz marsh]

stand next to flag

if he saps and tries to cap

press barkskin

play brambles

aoe dmg from it will break flag cap attempt

[river sparrow]

oooooh, that's a nice one! I always play brambles, ye

Didn't know that worked. thanks!!

[quartz marsh]

ye and that + 30s un-ccable incarn should be enough for a team mate to get to you

and trinket ofc

[river sparrow]

ye, i've been going with sleeper after being embarassed by a couple of crafty rogues.

But i didn't know about the bramble trick. That'll help a lot

[quartz marsh]

if he smoke bombs first go, and u still solo after / brambles, / incarn / trinket, just play max range

if he tries to cap moonfire

if he stuns / saps / blinds it still wont be enough time to run from max range to flag & start capping

[river sparrow]

i only run into trouble when they smokebomb first

Sleeper solved it, i was just curious if there was another way, and you provided, ty

[quartz marsh]

np

[arctic rivet]

I like haste better

I spam so quickly it feels like I am convoking despite being Kyrian

also I love this playstyle way better

I feel a lot more reliable and I don't feel like a useless dumbass waiting for convoke

love Kyrian Boomies 😄

Timeworn is fucking good with Kindred spirits

[forest kite]

it's why mastery is better as NF , to get a better burst outside of convoke

[arctic rivet]

ah...

[forest kite]

Fury of elune + badge + Mastery gear With boat is enought to kill ppl outside of convoke

[arctic rivet]

then I picked the wrong stat then when I was NF

[forest kite]

even if it feel a bit clunky compared to full haste

[arctic rivet]

I personally love haste

plus haste makes it ez to cyclone people too

[forest kite]

it feel better to play full haste

[arctic rivet]

it would be insane with Troll racial but....

[forest kite]

but you feel useless full haste as NF outside of convoke

[arctic rivet]

I personally do not like the troll race at all....

and Tauren has been my fav race since vanilla since I was a kid

[forest kite]

• convoke are even more cheesy full haste xD

full mastery*

[arctic rivet]

yeah

I prefer be more versatile and be useful

being Kyrian feels like I'm the ranged version of an arms warrior

constant pressure constant damage even outside of my burst

such a short cd for me to burst too

[forest kite]

i still think even as kyrian ( even if it feel clunky but not so much with starlord ) mastery + Boat is still more effective than Haste + Dreambinder. Crit & Damage kill ppl , not haste

[cold escarp]

doesnt that apply to kyrian too then?

[forest kite]

less because

you have a burst every min

[arctic rivet]

I mean

[forest kite]

and not sitting 3 min for Convoke + Incarn

[arctic rivet]

my issue with mastery is you dont get on your full potential

[forest kite]

and even full haste , the burst from kyrian every min is enought to kill ppl

[arctic rivet]

since haste allow you to not only spam so much starsurges but also be able to spam so much cyclones and ccs

its kinda nuts tbh

[cold escarp]

after we talked yday i swapped lots of my gear to mastery and it just feel better

[arctic rivet]

really?

[forest kite]

yeah but dude

mostly you don't clone so much

you wanna clone on CD

[cold escarp]

the kyrian dreambinder burst sucks i dont like it

[forest kite]

like wings or shit

[cold escarp]

its too slow

[forest kite]

but the game it's just a quick cross CC + One shot right now

not doing big CC chain

[cold escarp]

u need like 5 globals to do ur burst by that time enemy already popped all their defense

or cc ended so u need to reclone

[forest kite]

as ele/boomy/healer

[arctic rivet]

eh I feel more comfy as Kyrian haste dreambinder

[forest kite]

i don't even clone vs RMP at 2800 mmr for exemple

i just pve the mage

the whole fucking game

xD

[cold escarp]

exactly

[forest kite]

Dreambinder/haste is comfy like u said

it feel good

Boat/Mastery kill ppl

[cold escarp]

yep

i still kept like 14% haste like i said earlier

[forest kite]

even if sometime it's a pain in the ass to play around eclyspe and feel clunky

cast quicker clone is pointless

[cold escarp]

so i can reliably do roar clone

[forest kite]

important one will be kicked

and like i said , i wanna smash these boomy spaming clone

[cold escarp]

spamming clone all game dont win games

burst wins games

[forest kite]

y

[cold escarp]

BOAT the GOAT

it even rhymes

:)

[forest kite]

like i said i'm playing mostly around 2.7-2.8 mmr and many game i don't even clone

or just on big shit

combust ( usually clone is kicked anyway but you force kick )

Wings

Ascendance

and Sometime , clone on Low HP target , Clone if i know my mate can finish the guy on the healer , but haste wont help at all for that

but mostly this game is trash , it's shit , you need to pump damage and force them to use mana before dampening , Or one shot

that all

a good rmp wont die with mana , a good jungle wont die with mana

who care about clone

pump damage , eat their mana

xD

[cold escarp]

i think with time ppl will see

rudar was just trying full mastery boat on tourny realm

and he said it feel good

[forest kite]

i already discuss about that 2 day ago

MOST BOOMY

in haste , are sitting their R1 since 3 months

Most active boomy ( kyrian or night fae ) already play boat + mastery anyway xD

or some just don't care because haste work too anyway

[cold escarp]

i wanted to buy mastery wep for my alt boomy today

but kyrian dont have mastery wep

was annoyed

[forest kite]

yeah it's crit

i've swapped NF to buy it also ahahah

[cold escarp]

idk if ill swap

some haste is ok

for the roar + clone combo

if u go too low haste u have window

[forest kite]

i haven't done any roar into clone since like

ever

ahahahah

[cold escarp]

well u play with ele sham

its pve ppl to death

[forest kite]

not only

also SP , DK , Ret

[cold escarp]

i did some games with ele and honestly we dont even need cc on healer

so many times we just outdmg

its funny

[forest kite]

you just need root beam every min

[cold escarp]

yeah

[forest kite]

but mostly roar+clone is pointless

if u wanna CC at the start

just insta root beam and pop all CD

if ppl see you waste ur time

going Roar + clone healer

they just pop all Big dam

and force you instantly to play def

better to insta root beam

and clone after the healer on his way

[cold escarp]

swapping just to buy wep feel kinda dumb tho

but maybe ill do it will see

[forest kite]

the game is dead , the season is dead

[cold escarp]

yeah i know no one pushing anymore

[forest kite]

i guess play 1 week NF wont be the end of the world

xD

[cold escarp]

so hard to find ppl who actually want to push

ppl just fuck around in 2s

[forest kite]

also R1 are not around 2400 anymore

but already between 2K and 2K2 now ahhaha

nobody wanna push in this shit show

the game is dead till 9.1

[cold escarp]

in 9.1 u still gonna run BOAT u think?

[forest kite]

one month will be healthy

then shit show will start again

no

100% sure if this new 1 min convoke is nice and you get 3 surges from it

i will play that

if not , kyrian + Dreambinder

but probably full mastery

[cold escarp]

yeah thats what im thinking cause i dont like convoke anymore

kyri + dreambind + full mastery seems to be the play

[forest kite]

hmm these 2 sec convoke every min

with the mastery buff

is definitely better than kyrian

[cold escarp]

i like the 15% buff so much

on my alt with shit gear i still oneshot ppl

[forest kite]

yeah but the mastery buff alone from niya

is already close to 15%

and you have 2s convoke on top of it

[cold escarp]

its only 50 more mastery than pelagos

palegos is 350 mastery + 15%

niya is 400 mastery

[forest kite]

no

palegos reduced by 50% in pvp

[cold escarp]

oh real

[forest kite]

since like the beginning of the season

[cold escarp]

i just swap to kyri like 2 weeks ago so i didnt know

hmm

[forest kite]

that why , 400 mastery is pretty close

but you have 2s convoke

[cold escarp]

maybe ill swap back then in 9.1

[forest kite]

• that shitty dot from niya

[cold escarp]

got the 40 NF anyway

[forest kite]

dealing pretty nice damage

i often get some kill with that shit ahah

if these 1 min convoke proc 30 sec 400 mastery

so you have 50% uptime on that

kyrian is dead , just saying

[cold escarp]

yep

true true

[forest kite]

i was like " if it don't give at least 3 surges it's crap " but no it's better anyway because of that buff

[cold escarp]

yeah i think even 2 surge is fine

because its not just the surges

it also does random wraths and fills ur AP

[forest kite]

it's still 2 surges in 2 gcd + 6 spell

• 3 surges after that

so 5 surges , buffed from badge + 400 mastery

[cold escarp]

yeee

[forest kite]

and you keep around 25s mastery buff after that to keep pressure

[cold escarp]

big theorycraft here

[forest kite]

BUT !

you still lose Boat effect

or +20% damage from dreambinder effect

so again , Mastery here we go

and praise for crit

[cold escarp]

ill just keep my main kyri and make my alt NF now

we'll see what happens in 9.1

so long from now game is dead

[forest kite]

yeah and a lot of waiting still

my guess , TBC prepatch in May , TBC in june , 9.1 end of july/august xD

[cold escarp]

u think tbc so early? it just went into beta

beta usually 6 month +-

[forest kite]

nah

classic took 4 months

[cold escarp]

what u playing in tbc

[forest kite]

also

[cold escarp]

boomy is dead class in tbc

[forest kite]

they have leaked the release date

i'm not

but i know they are not stupid and wont release TBC & 9.1 at same time

[cold escarp]

we'll see

[forest kite]

they did with Shadowlands & Naxx because of Covid shit fucked their shedule

but they are not dumb , they always release Classic shit / Retail shit with different schedule

because most ppl go retail , play hard the first month and leave again anyway

pretty same shit on classic , retail player come , Rush shit , Quit and come back later

[compact tide]

are the old day tbh boomie oneshots live

?

tbc

[tight valve]

I

I'm seeing Boomies in random battlegrounds smashing my DPS and my damage meter shows its moonfire topping their damage. Wondering if anyone has any clues how to get mf damage up

[foggy ravine]

Keep moonfire active on more targets

[arctic rivet]

For Kyrian boomies

Is the potion buff/conduit worth it?

Or is it worth getting celestial alignment instead?

[devout steppe]

@clear pulsar you still playing rdru?

[tight valve]

Anyone played both kyr and NF? (balance) Keen to hear how kyrian feels compared to NF which I currently am. Feel it may be worth it given how easy it is to counter convoke

[lusty flame]

is sitting at full renown dumb? should i just level necro for resto offspec? considerung u dont lose renown when switching back

[obtuse ice]

If you have time

[lime light]

If u are cute as @obtuse ice

[stray sigil]

[obtuse ice]

[smoky sail]

[obtuse ice]

wanna fight?

[stray sigil]

1v1 me

[lime light]

Lmao rat from murica

[obtuse ice]

Ok OMW

[stray sigil]

ok comrade ill 1v1 u toi

[obtuse ice]

toi 😳

[stray sigil]

[lime light]

Mdr

Too short kid

Come again kid, when u have one channel at least

Like myself #pvp

[stray sigil]

wrong

see my name?

[clear pulsar]

Only in keys lately, feral in pvp, whats up brother

[split timber]

resto druid 1h enchant for surbibavility?

[clear pulsar]

@stray sigil did you really go horde and back alliance in back to back weeks?

[obtuse ice]

wait

fuji alliance? O.o

[clear pulsar]

Remy

[obtuse ice]

i

[clear pulsar]

Fuji changes faction, race, name, and server, at least twice a month

[obtuse ice]

Oh I see, rich guy

[clear pulsar]

Spending all that cash from his sugar daddy

[obtuse ice]

Wonder who itis

[lime light]

he has rich daddy

that pays for it

😳

[stray sigil]

its me from doing 2s carries

no sugar momy

[stray sigil]

shut up gime back ginv

[arctic rivet]

Lmao

That reminds me...

Face2face you’re Horde right?

And I’ll never faction change, loving it in Horde (except maybe my 2nd Dk who is a forsaken, I went and built a new Dk bec I was too poor for a race change so yeah ended up with 2 Dks and I might turn the undead one to Alliance but I doubt I’ll play it....

Alliance sucks

[clear pulsar]

I'm alliance

[lime light]

good choice

faction for kids

girls

and erp players

[smoky sail]

Goldshire bis

[lime light]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-sad-dancing-gif-15181201

[gloomy token]

alright which one of you fuckers did this

[sick arrow]

hi these are probably very basic questions and i'm well aware that every situation is different etc, but if i were to try to summarise what i normally do in arena right now (low cr, 1300, resto druid usually with warrior or aff lock), i usually keep whoever's being focused hotted, myself double rejuved in case they swap, and then try to rake->clone etc. however once DRs are in effect on for example the healer, who i usually default to ccing, i find myself becoming a lot more passive, during this time should i ideally be coordinating with my dps to swap and cc the other opp to try to force them to use more cooldowns etc? just trying to be more active during the match and wondering how best to achieve it

[lime light]

Me :)

With warrior, be passive, Play Guardian mostly, hots him and run away, dont rly go for CC till he Has insane pressure

Kite around pillar or kite to him, if he is going the other dps

With affi u wanna kite on open, no matter what

Se affi will kill them fast enough, if he can free cast

Play agressive feral affinity

Hard to punish u, cuz affi will peel for u, or do unhealable damage

Dont rly double hot yourself for no reason

[sick arrow]

fair enough, i just find sometimes if i'm swapped to im playing catch-up if i dont have some hots already

but i suppose that's what overgrowth is for

[sick arrow]

can anyone recommend some good overexplain videos by gladiators? i try watching videos and streams but they dont always give a lot of insight, from rdruid perspective

ooh this jacobx guy has one

[forest kite]

i've a good overexplain by gladiators : Quit the game , come back for 9.1 , say me thanks later

[clear pulsar]

9.1 will be shit lol

[forest kite]

but no boost for at least 2-3 week

xDDD

an other overexplain b y gladiators : TBC inc , go play Rdruid on it you will be god with 2 apm

[clear pulsar]

No more pveers getting boosted = pvp dies for good

That's the only thing keeping any queues going, pveers wanting gear

[forest kite]

not really , instead have 1 months of Q then boost fiesta

you will still have 1 month of Q

then Dead game instead , who care

xD

[gloomy nova]

Are you playing at 3k mmr? If not, then you dont have queue issues

[clear pulsar]

[forest kite]

you don't need to play at 3k for Q issue

[clear pulsar]

I have 5 min queues at 2.1 mmr

[forest kite]

it already start at 2.4 atm

No Q

[clear pulsar]

During prime NA time

[forest kite]

i don't have Q since 2 month at 2.6+

[gloomy nova]

NA lul

[clear pulsar]

Play 2s at any time of day you'll spam into the same 2 or 3 teams for an hour straight

[forest kite]

it's not because 3K player discuss on discord and Q to face Each other , there is Q around 😄

[clear pulsar]

Play 3s and queue lasts longer than games

[gloomy nova]

Well thats certainly not the case on EU

[forest kite]

you Q at 2.6

to wait 15 min

and face maro at 2.2

git gud

[gloomy nova]

It's bound to happen because blizz were dumb enough to release TBC

[forest kite]

bro , on classic/TBC , there isn't a lot of retail player

ppl left because it's shit

& boost fiesta

not because of tbc

[gloomy nova]

TBC definatley adds to the issue, and it will even more

[forest kite]

to be honest no

[clear pulsar]

Next patch power creep = even more one shots

[gloomy nova]

to be honest yes

[forest kite]

i don't know ANY single person

who left the game

with plan to play TBC

[gloomy nova]

Then there cant be any that did right?

[forest kite]

not a single one

but strange

it's like i've 200 friend who left the game

but TBC is the issue .

[gloomy nova]

I never said tbc IS the issue, i said it adds to it

[forest kite]

btw Arena on TBC is pure shit don't worry

if ppl leave for TBC

they will come back eat some shit on SL

xD

dude it's like that since Wod , lot of ppl playing early , Quit > come back for big patch , play a month > Quit etc etc

it's even like that since forever , pushing the first couple week , AFK glad .

no Q

[gloomy nova]

I mean the reason PvP is at the state it is right now I think comes down to a few major factors:

1. PVP gear is too good in PvE
2. Alot of people are boosting (because of the above)
3. Many people already "got what they want/need" in terms of rating
4. TBC will have an increasing impact on this (never understood the idea behind this at first, and it will continue to divide the playerbase)

[forest kite]

btw PvP gear to good in pve = Huge participation in PvP

remove that

Remove an huge participation in PvP

Boost will still be here and you will face the same amount of boost because well , Less participation / Same amount of booster

So ? it will be even worst

[gloomy nova]

The "huge" participation from pve players in pvp is really only there at lower mmr. You wont fix queue issues at 2.2k+ mmr by having pve participation

[forest kite]

This game is dead because they are not able to chase these boost

[clear pulsar]

Not true

[forest kite]

ahah

between 2.1 and 2.4

[clear pulsar]

2.4k = 233 wep

[forest kite]

90% of the team

are 2 guy boosting one guy

remove these 90% team

[short dagger]

Why is everyone so concerned with boost teams. Play them. Get experience. Get better. Aka grow a sack and q

[forest kite]

you don't have Q at 2.1

[clear pulsar]

Literally the most significant upgrade anyone that hasn't got cutting edge yet can get in the game

[forest kite]

Genius

[clear pulsar]

Because it's shit?

[short dagger]

Sounds like a bunch of QQ not a problem with queues

[gloomy nova]

How do you want it? You want boosters or not?

lol

[forest kite]

boost push most legit ppl out of the game

even good one

[gloomy nova]

You guys sound like you tryna get glad and keep getting dicked on, and u just whine about it here.

[forest kite]

it's not alt friendly , it's a pain , everything is a pain , then ppl leave not hard to understand

[clear pulsar]

Who is you guys? lol

Kawkaw got glad like first month of season

My gripe is the game is dead

[gloomy nova]

Then quit it

Why play a dead game

[forest kite]

i'm fine with glad since 3 months

[clear pulsar]

Nah I pve a bit

[forest kite]

but yeah keep speaking shit

[short dagger]

It’s gets rid of the quitters sure I’ll agree with that. And to how I want it? I want people to queue regardless. If people want to spend their gold on boots then who cares it’s their gold to do with as they wish. Obviously RMT shouldn’t take place, but aside from that, no different than all these people buying pve carries. Same thing.

[gloomy nova]

Boosting is anything new btw

[forest kite]

i like ppl talking about Q , when they slack at 1500 and don't even know what it's look like

[short dagger]

Game is far from dead, there’s queues all the time all day everyday. There’s time zone conflicts like now ish where queues are lower, but just like everyday there will be tons of queues .

[forest kite]

and arguing why ppl left the game when they don't know at all the reality xD

keep thinking TBC kill Retail

[gloomy nova]

So ur saying ppl left the game because "its shit"? Honestly this complaining about meta bullshit is the same every season

[clear pulsar]

@gloomy nova but it's a lot more normalized since m+ sales became a thing in legion, now is just the first time that pvp gearing is relevant so it flooded pvp only this expansion

[forest kite]

who said " the meta is shit " ?

nobody

[gloomy nova]

Explain to me why people left

Since you know it all

[forest kite]

Because you face boost 90% of the time above 2.1 right now

and with alt / ungeared ppl

[gloomy nova]

hahahahahaha

[forest kite]

you face 227 booster 70% of the time ?

so it's not even fun ? ppl don't have fun

ppl quit

[gloomy nova]

ur actually funny, so the game is dead because at 2,1k+ mmr ur facing boosters? Bro do u even know how low % even plays at 2.1k+ mmr

[forest kite]

you go above 2.2MMR in RBG

you face eHeroes the whole day boosting one guy at 2.2

smashing ur face

[gloomy nova]

Then get gud

[forest kite]

from 1500 guy

who say " get gud "

i'm talking about ppl on alt

around 210 ilvl

facing multi R1 227 boosting again & again , where is the fun in that ?

myself i don't care i still play the game , i'm telling you why ppl leave the game

i enjoy to play against tournament player , but most don't .

[short dagger]

people dont have fun because they cant beat players with 1-3 carries, so 10v7(8), who are on alts themselves? Sounds like people who don't want to play better teams and actually learn/improve

[forest kite]

it's not only carry bro , MMR is fucked / Q are fucked by all of this

[gloomy nova]

Its just an excuse. You expect to freeroll to 3k mmr or what

[forest kite]

even multi R1 play at low mmr with main team now

[gloomy nova]

Its not like boosters are impossible to beat

[forest kite]

DUDE

YOU SLACK AT 1.5

[clear pulsar]

No one cares about rbg lol

[forest kite]

you don't even know

what is 3K player and boost why u arg ?

u're dellusionnal about the question " why ppl leave the game "

i'm telling u why , u stay dellusionnal

trying to flame

[gloomy nova]

hahaha and you've done research about this? If people quit because they are facing boosters (good teams) at 2.1 - 2.4 mmr and get mad because they actually dont freeroll to glad then pussy off

Just get better

[forest kite]

yeah they don't care about what you think , they still quit

xD

ppl at 1.8 wanna face ppl at 1.8

not multi R1

simple fact

[gloomy nova]

Its funny. You actually think a HUGE amount of people LEGIT QUIT the game because of boosting. So these players who are they? I think the ppl you might be refering to are people that already got glad and dont care to play more because of longer queues at high mmr.

Which is always gonna happen

[forest kite]

it's not because you told them " hey bro you have 1.8 xp , you can't win vs 3K player , u're a big shit get better "

they will keep playing xD

[short dagger]

half the time, people don't even know who they are facing. People call teams boosters or carry teams, when majority of the time its 2.4+ players on alts queuing with btags. lol. just because a team has a lower cr player doesn't mean that's a carry by any means. Its people rolling alts, undergeared pushing higher mmr than their characters or individual skill level can perform in the bracket they reach

[forest kite]

Most pvp player quit because of boosting or no Q yes

even good one

[tall knoll]

I think the main reason why pvp feels like crap is just depending on the season cycle and regular class balance changes for pvp just not hapenning

[gloomy nova]

People just find excuses "OMG this guy has glad title why is he playing on 1.8 mmr". Dude, people have alts, they are boosting, who cares.

[forest kite]

let take an exemple : Glad player , he achieve his glad , his main is full geared , he have no Q anymore at his rating , he roll an Alt

this guy is not bad right ?

do you think he enjoy face the same ppl at 1.8 on his ungeared alt than he face with his main at 2.5+ ?

no he don't .

[tall knoll]

If blizzard just made a season like 3 months, things wouldnt get stale so quickly

Im also bored after seeing the same 3 comps for 90% of the game. And nothing changes for 9 months

[forest kite]

so it's not alt friendly , they achieve their glad anyway , they are geared , they quit waiting for the next season , simple

[gloomy nova]

Several months into a season its always gonna decay. I mean i think people never got 3k this fast, which also means alot of ppl got glad really fast. Its just "natural". Yes the bosting issue adds to it, but ur making it sound like this is like outrageousley bad and that its a new phenom

[forest kite]

now take an average 1.8 player trying to get better

[tall knoll]

They are getting screwed straight up

[forest kite]

at 1.8 he face a lot of glad , he can't reach better Rating , and face REAL 2.1 player to get better , they face a fucking wall

[short dagger]

literally all of my hero+ btags still play the game, not one has complained or bitched about anything OTHER than facing camel when/if they queue mains.

[forest kite]

they quit , because they feel it's not " right "

[gloomy nova]

Its the mentality these days, quit if things are too hard.

[forest kite]

it's not "too hard "

it's unfair

not the same thing

[gloomy nova]

Life is

get over it

[forest kite]

and i understand them

it's a game

not " life "

u play to get fun

not for an second unfair life

[tall knoll]

Cant think of a life example this stupid

[forest kite]

ppl don't have fun

ppl don't play xD

This guy is stupid

since the beginning

but he don't realise it

[gloomy nova]

I mean i still dont get where you actually find evidence that "pvp is dead " or the game is dead

ur just bitching

[forest kite]

because it is

[tall knoll]

I still think its a blizzard issue. Not just a player issue

[forest kite]

but you are dellusionnal about it

[gloomy nova]

Yes, not agreeing or seeing things from the same PoV as urself is being dellusional. The fact is simply "because it is"

[forest kite]

it's like that since so much year , game have huge activity after big patch , then it's pretty dead & boost fiesta that all

[tall knoll]

I would have fun if the 1st season was already over. Or if blizzard actually made relevant class changes for pvp on a regular basis. But thats just not hapenning

[forest kite]

the game lost 80% of his player database since the start , when you are a 2.5-2.6 and don't have Q at all no matter when

yeah for me , the game is dead xD

[gloomy nova]

If you expect blizzard to tune PvP in a relevant and quick manner, you should quit the game. This has never been the case and never will. Nothing new

[clear pulsar]

You play high school bball competing in your city high school circuit, then suddenly high schools are allowed to recruit nba players. And then they keep taunting you 'git gud if you don't have fun playing against pros you shouldn't be playing ball'

[forest kite]

from a 1.8 player perspective , they face multi R1 at 1.8 , the game is broken , unfair , game is dead

[short dagger]

its not a blizz issue either, its strictly a player issue. feeling that facing good players on alts is unfair is simply individuals wanting easy games to climb. play harder teams, learn from the games, keep queuing . not every team you face is like that for one, for two, simply get better. takes some Ls to get better, takes the willingness to play tougher players to learn

[clear pulsar]

Now one person saying this is an rbg main and the other keeps moving the goal posts and putting words in kawkaw's mouth

[gloomy nova]

Dont bother dude. The game is unfair. Blizz should give everyone a free glad title.

[forest kite]

when you play football for fun , you don't wanna face barcelona everytime and get smashed

with 2IQ ppl saying " hey get better it's life bro "

xD

[gloomy nova]

You dont face barcelone every time. Plus it should actually be a learning experience facing them now and then.

[short dagger]

its not every game, lol, nobody queues into r1's every game back to back, they get them, they lose, they quit = quitters. literally just man up, play the hardest games you can, get better at the game, move on. or go back to pve.

[forest kite]

and when u're a pro player like messi , you don't wanna be forced to play against bad team , because 0 pro team are here for any match

[gloomy nova]

"Every team queueing except for mine is R1 boosting". "Its too hard, its unfair, i quit the game"

LOL

[forest kite]

yeah , now you can insult most of ppl to be garbage if you feel better

but it's still why ppl leave the game

[short dagger]

we form up, beat r1s with 2k lfg groups on undergeared alts lol. its about making plays not outgearing teams, plays can be made if you know how to win games based on map awareness / comps / etc

[forest kite]

but i guess you don't understand game = fun

[gloomy nova]

WHO IS LEAVING THE GAME

[forest kite]

ppl not having fun = don't play

[gloomy nova]

what are u talking about

[forest kite]

80% of the database

[short dagger]

if fun = never losing, they are better off gone

cya

[forest kite]

if it's not enought for you

[gloomy nova]

Show me

[forest kite]

get better

to grind in the range

where you don't have Q anymore

ahah

[short dagger]

fun to me is queuing into the highest mmr teams queuing at the time and trying to beat them, aka, learning how to self improve as an individual or as a team.

[forest kite]

BUT YOU DON'T HAVE Q

if i want to have Q

i've to go on alt

smash 1.8 ppl

[short dagger]

no, you can q just fine at any cr

[forest kite]

where is the fun for me ?

no

i don't have Q on main

i've to ask to other high rated team to Q

and we can be banned for that

they can considere it as wintrade

even if some do regardless

[gloomy nova]

Tune in to twitch. There are people queueing 2.5k+ mmr every day, yeah they wait sometimes in the queue and so what?

u expect instant queues

[forest kite]

it what you don't understand : i don't have Q on main , i go on alt , i don't have fun smashing 1.8 ppl on alt , these 1.8 ppl don't have fun getting smashed by me at 1.8 , nobody have fun

2.5

[short dagger]

no? RBG, form up, queue against camel... arena, queue and play xar,peek, etc ...

[forest kite]

isn't 2.8

[short dagger]

literally every r1 queues everyday

[forest kite]

yeah

for boost

i think you put some word in my mouth like i was the one complaining

myself idc , i'm telling you why most of ppl quit

[gloomy nova]

And u can never beat these teams?

or why are u crying

[forest kite]

i'm speaking for ppl who quit

where i'm complaining

u're 2IQ and think ppl leave for TBC , i'm telling you they leave for many reason , but u turn that shit in something else like i'm crying

i'm glad , i'm HOTH i've done everything i've to achieve , for me everything is fine boi

[gloomy nova]

I never said ppl leave for TBC; i said it adds to the issue

[forest kite]

then every single game released adds to the issue

[gloomy nova]

Having a game in a game in a game is an issue yes

[forest kite]

yeah ppl left a game for another one because they don't get fun on the first one

[gloomy nova]

tbc isnt another game, its a stuipid and desperate idea by blizzard

[forest kite]

then like always they will come back for 9.1

no , they are smart that all

[gloomy nova]

There will 100% be more ppl playing 9.1 than right now

[short dagger]

himm funny how arenamate shows 2.6-3k players queuing mains. the past 2 hours during dead hours

[forest kite]

many ppl enjoy the fact to play TBC again or discover it

[short dagger]

incredible

[forest kite]

but again

you're insulting ppl

like because you think TBC is a crap idea , then everyone considering it are braindead

xD

[gloomy nova]

Where? You're the one calling me dellusional. Im not insulting anyone by claiming tbc is a bad idea

[forest kite]

Arenamate show 2.6-3K player

boosting

xD

[short dagger]

lol, skate by on your glad/2.4 and quit brother. your just playing it safe and qq'ing. go play the game.

[gloomy nova]

Dont put words in my mouth again

[forest kite]

you claim "' it's a bad idea "

no

it's a bad idea IN YOUR MIND

[gloomy nova]

The game is dead IN YOUR MIND

See what i did there?

[forest kite]

80% of the database are gone

it's not in my mind

[gloomy nova]

Oh yeah? Mind sharing some evidence that support your claim?

[forest kite]

i'm off talking with you mate

google is ur friend

[gloomy nova]

Yeah because you dont have any fking evidence or fact. ur just sphewing and whining. Anything anyone else says is dellusional and in our mind.

[forest kite]

like i said

google is ur friend

[gloomy nova]

Litterally the most cringe reply ever

[obtuse ice]

Nice ego discussion

[tiny tusk]

[forest kite]

i wont waste any more minute for a trash 1.5 delussional kid who don't even understand the states of the game

who enjoy playing against dick at 1.4

cya 😄

[clear pulsar]

I think the 'you don't like playing against people 600 rating better than you? just git gud and suck it up' is more cringe

[gloomy nova]

Im not against being convinced by you. But ur making so many claims as facts, well show me then? Convince me. No instead everyone else is just dellusional

and its all IN MY MIND

[forest kite]

give me your ingame name

i wanna laught

[gloomy nova]

HAHAHA

You should just quit my dude

[forest kite]

probably a guy with 1K game

around 1400

who don't even know what boost or a good player is

that why u think like that 😄

[gloomy nova]

Look at this poor kid, turns to insults when asked to provide facts to convince me instead of calling me dellusional

Well done lad

[forest kite]

and idc bro i have no problem with low xp player

but don't talk if you don't know

[gloomy nova]

Excuse me if I dont take every word coming out of your mouth as fact.

[forest kite]

give me your pvp check or something , it's simple if you are at 1.4

you can't understand what i'm speaking about

so there is no point to discuss

that all

[gloomy nova]

We dont need to discuss shit. And I dont need to comply with you what so ever. My character doesnt mean shit right now.
You are making claims and anyone challenging them are dellusional. When asked to be convinced, and provide any facts for your statements u turn to insults.

[forest kite]

idc if you are at 1.4 , 2.8 , 3.9 but you can't understand many thing if you haven't faced it yet .

[gloomy nova]

I dont give a shit if ur glad

ur just a kid

[forest kite]

yeah , i'm 33y old and i still shit in my pants , because i'm a kid

give me a sugar

xD

[obtuse ice]

What are the claims of kawkaw?

[forest kite]

he was asking why ppl are quitting

[gloomy nova]

The game is dead.
Every team u face are r1 boosting:.
80% of the playerbase is gone

[forest kite]

and saying it's also because of tbc

and i was saying ppl quit because they don't enjoy the game for multiple raison in PvP , Mostly because No Q anymore for high rated / Boosting / Not alt friendly ( facing 227 booster with 200 illvl char for exemple ) .

but i guess he is around 1400 , he don't have faced any boost or something , so i can't discuss with that guy

[obtuse ice]

The game is dead. => relative to a certain extend of the game when it was really popular
Every team u face are r1 boosting:. => Depends at which elo you are I guess
80% of the playerbase is gone => depends reference you take it as sources

[forest kite]

in his mind , ppl are all subhuman because they don't enjoy to play 80% of the time against much better player than them

we are all subhuman

and Youmate1t is a god belong us

[gloomy nova]

Thats the case IN YOUR MIND.
I believe the case is more about:

• Many people already got their desired ratings and titles. This season was the fastest ppl got 3k for instance
• People are playing on ALTS with titles -> People take the victim coat on and blame everything on boosters.
• TBC adds to the issue (dividing the player base, taking away activity in the game)
• This "far" into the season these things will ALWAYS happen. The activitity doesnt stay the same as week 1.

[forest kite]

And because i'm a gladiator , and he is at 1.4 , i've a big Ego , i'm a kid , i shit in my panth and he know better than me . good resume

[gloomy nova]

And yes, boosting is an issue aswell but its nothing new

[forest kite]

dude i'm in the biggest EU pvp guild

EVERYONE

is

boosting

the

whole

day

xD

myself included

[gloomy nova]

Well thats nice then you get queues

So why are u crying like a little girl about THERE ARE NO QUEUES

[forest kite]

Every single one , you wanna the biggest complain in my guild chat today ?

everyone was complaining about the " PvP item level change "

because they will get less boost next season

ahahah

sorry bro

[clear pulsar]

Because people who like punching down are cringe

???

No one actually enjoys spam queueing into people 2 titles worse than them

[gloomy nova]

Ofc they complain because they are earning alot of money this way. Its not about the pvp scene or anything, just about the money

[forest kite]

you disgsust me , in my eyes you should be banned from everywhere i'm bored to watching you considering 90% of the ppl for subhuman

[clear pulsar]

The pvp gear ilvl thing creates a bigger problem than it solves

[forest kite]

and it was my last message for you cya .

[clear pulsar]

Or rather the whole system will have a bigger problem that the pvp ilvl thing doesn't solve

[obtuse ice]

Boost is feelsbadman

[gloomy nova]

Take your insults elsewhere. Dont think for a second you are special because u are glad rofl

These kids coming here "show me ur character", "im glad so i know more than you do". Nothing constructive what so ever, meeting every arguement with insuts.

[clear pulsar]

What argument tho?

The only thing I recall you saying other than the little war of words was 'if you dislike facing boosters git gud suck it up'

[gloomy nova]

Well scroll up then there is alot

[clear pulsar]

I'm gonna choose against that

[gloomy nova]

Then stfu?

[clear pulsar]

No u

[viscid remnant]

random andys ego tripping

[cold escarp]

i enjoy facing boosters on my alt :)

please boost me too :)

for free tho

[viscid remnant]

boosters in 2s are pretty easy to defeat

you can usually target the weak link and win

[tame pebble]

this game works very bad:

how the f we got 1k6 players against low cr group

[cold escarp]

because its dead

[gloomy nova]

is 1.6 high cr?

[tame pebble]

575 😄

[forest kite]

don't say that cryonix , you will be considered as subhuman

[gloomy nova]

cr and mmr isnt the same

the enemy team is 1400-1600 cr at 1.5 mmr

nothing wrong

[tame pebble]

1.5mmr?

[gloomy nova]

Yes? Matchmaking rating. At the bottom right

[tame pebble]

but why i have to fight with guys with 1600 cr on rated bg when i have 575?

[cold escarp]

blizzard considers your team to match the enemy team in skill