I mean, the guy is decent already tbh... can't wait him RN, what's he saying?
#pvp
shadow creek
sonic plover
okey fellow feral pvpers, I need some basic tips vs monk/x and war/x
I think I have figured out priest/war by going priest
but whatabout paladin/war?
same thing?
any tips are welcome
shadow creek
That's great news
sonic plover
is this the wrong channel to discuss feral in pvp?
safe heart
no this is the right channel
im still 1600cr but when i go against monk/x i usually pick monk as the kill target, theyre fairly squishy outside of karma, try to thorns his fists as much as possible and make him chase you with his cd's up
junior plover
this is the BEST channel
safe heart
sometimes i clone his xuen too
safe heart
against paladin warrior, just go paladin hard af and eventually kill with mindgames
junior plover
this is @lime light's channel
sonic plover
I play with paladin though
wise valley
Okay
sonic plover
paladin/feral
junior plover
against paladin warrior, just go paladin hard af and eventually kill with mindga...
if you do that
you will always oom
wise valley
Don't get carried away kiosk
safe heart
gunna oom no matter what pretty much
junior plover
also you never kill through intervene
sonic plover
I guess feral7priest is better then hpaladin?
junior plover
Yep
junior plover
True
sonic plover
warriors just follow me
safe heart
if paladin bubbles early, it can be a gg , atleast in my bracket
sonic plover
we are same bracket :>
safe heart
but war/pal is like the safest comp in the game and they would have to play badly to actually lose
junior plover
If you play with a paladin
safe heart
so you have to make them pay for their mistakes as much as you can
junior plover
maybe you can go pala
because you can hoj the warrior
if you play with a priest
you can never not go warrior
safe heart
kiosk would know better than me
sonic plover
ahh yeh ofc
junior plover
You can try to bait berserker rage
sonic plover
warrios are hard af to meet man
sonic plover
just need somekind of plan
yeh been thinking about killing paladin, but when u have a warrior in ur ass its rough
one game I sat in bear form almsot all game
junior plover
There really isn't a good answer
you can experiment with Circle Bloodtalons
and oom them
sonic plover
is that the dot one?
junior plover
Oh yeah also
safe heart
maybe bash pal maim war, go ham on war, mindgames or fear off the bash
junior plover
kyrian or nf?
sonic plover
need it for pve you know...
safe heart
yeah idk if i could ever beat war/pal without kyrian buff
junior plover
ahh gotcha
sonic plover
mayby I can sneak in and be a kyrian and they never notice
junior plover
that's just the thing about that matchup
at best you win a trinket
but then you cant kill them through the lack of trinket anyway
and by the time you get through all the immunities you die to dampen
sonic plover
yeh thats my experience too
kyrian should be ok in 3s too right?
I play boomy in 3s and feral in 2s and boomy in PvE
junior plover
Kyrian is bis for pvp
both balance and feral
but its close
feral nf is just really bad into arms specifically
sonic plover
we only have generals and sire left on mythic mayby they wont care if I change 🙂
sonic plover
I am a strong independant cat I do what i want!
no we suck
2 days a week
fuck it I change kyrian tomorrow!
junior plover
Dont get me wrong
its still an extremely painful matchup as kyrian
but its not completely unwinnable if they have half a brain
safe heart
a wise man once told me "if they have hands, you lose"
sonic plover
safe heart
that person couldve easily been kiosk but maybe fuji
safe heart
im not switching again
shadow creek
What about Rdruids that want to play Feral 😦 pvp
safe heart
im unsubbing my classic account when tbc hits i think lol
my guild said i had 10 days after launch to hit 70
junior plover
What about Rdruids that want to play Feral 😦 pvp
Play necro
unironically
tony played it in top8 awc
its not super great on ladder but its good enough if you wanna offrole it
necro resto is fucking busted compared to NF
shadow creek
Play necro
Alright F it
im gna do it
Swithing to necro and I'll get out of 1.6 hard stuck
lol
shadow creek
Finding groups as feral took way too long
shadow creek
Quick Q
if i switch to necro from 36 NF,
how long will it take to get full tree as necro
bearing in mind i fkin hate the pve right now
dont want to do story quests or WQ
shut osprey
Anyone can tell if necrolord can be viable for high rating other then resto?
safe heart
you gotta be boss of the gym to get groups as feral
viscid remnant
I saw cdews bearform fleshcrafts were huge
shadow creek
I more so have concerns of farming everything all over again though
going from 1 renown. CBA with that shit surely
safe heart
youll be caught up in like 1 day
shadow creek
It is done!!!
I'm necro
Otherwise I was just gna call it a day for WoW. this is a last ditch attempt haha
viscid remnant
Wouldnt say one day
Its a process that depends how much you play
But if you only pvp and play resto its the best there is
viscid remnant
Yeah watching cdew rn the buffs seem solid
shadow creek
Wouldn't it be smart from blizz
that if you complete x amount of levels on a covenant... all the alts you make with that same covenant has that same level
shadow creek
wouldn't?
safe heart
i think it makes sense i guess but given their decision with torghast it seems like itd be reasonable
shadow creek
Ah shit, lost 3k hp too
safe heart
yeah but now you can heal warriors and theyll just auto win half the games anyway
viscid remnant
All your conduits stay except the convoke specific one
vital parcel
https://clips.twitch.tv/SplendidBrainyCaterpillarPoooound-wzGIU-LUvEM1wipr
holy shit thats broken
viscid remnant
Cant you also to add to that
BM before fleshcraft
Then swap to haste trinket
Chonky shield 
modest cobalt
How do I advance towards Renown 30? im 26 with no callings left and I've done my campaign.
im low geared cant rly do m+ or any rbgs yet
crimson vault
for balance, haste verse or verse mastery on lego? I see a lot of both
modest cobalt
thanks @viscid remnant and @clear pulsar I did a couple of m0 only 2 of them upgraded my Renown
it kinda bums me out all I wanted is Fleshcraft immunity :(
junior plover
thanks <@!247410790083198976> and <@!102094910101913600> I did a couple of m0 on...
LFR and callings are your best bet
edgy shale
LFR owns
i did LFR council on my alt and it made me understand exactly how dance works
modest cobalt
LOL
i didn't know m0 had any saves
did the same m0 i did a few hours ago
what a waste of time
modest cobalt
I mean I knew instances had lockouts
but I thought m0 was so shitty it didn't
like normals and shit
modest cobalt
you might still be able to get renown? maybe
and no u can't get any renown imo cuz i couldn't loot anything i had no chests
unreal rose
do i have a big disadvantage as a restoration with night fae covenant in PvP?
junior plover
but I thought m0 was so shitty it didn't
Did you know that until week 2 of shadowlands
Heroic dungeons had a daily lockout
junior plover
do i have a big disadvantage as a restoration with night fae covenant in PvP?
Yes
Necro resto is busted
Resto convoke doesn't do much
unreal rose
thanks i'm considering the switch, because resto in m+ is not the best right now
safe heart
ill probably switch my horde feral back to resto necro since every i know plays horde dps classes anyway
Kyrian Feral main furlyfe tho
clear pulsar
Had to be done
stray sigil
hes not necro
junior plover
edgy shale
WHAT LEVL is it
clear pulsar
Frenzy doesnt get buffed by necro anyway
It does outsim circle on my dungeonslice tho
stray sigil
@junior plover are u a necro gamer
mystic jungle
what is the best covenant for resto pvp as of 9.0.5?
mystic jungle
convoke got nerfed?
thick minnow
Before launch they changed it to only 12 spells for resto and not 16
mystic jungle
While I don't like having to consider necro, I can't blame them for nerfing convoke in some places
thick minnow
But 25% increased healing from necro just dwarfs everything imo
Plus the new 40% shield and immunity to CC. Stops chain CC into you
mystic jungle
That is WAY too good to pass up, wow
clear pulsar
Convoke was never bis for resto in pvp
mystic jungle
I haven;t touched SL content yet, I had just heard that druid = NF convoke so I had no idea that necro was that good for resto
clear pulsar
Full moon being able to proc didnt matter in the slightest considering balance affinity resto was prob like <1% thing
Necro's been a consensus best covenant for rdru arena since at least the last 2 months of beta
thick minnow
well with necro now buffing balance dots by 35% base
think you can go a prickling thorns build
with a lock
and just rot people down
uneven plume
Any recommendations for changes in 2s?
mystic jungle
I just hate everything about necro looks-wise so I was hoping it was a bit of a more lenient choice for resto haha
thick minnow
naw a pure 25% throughput to healing is pmuch a nail in the coffin. Unless other covs had some massive offensive spell. Which was convoke with balance, but once it got nerfed to 12 spells, it was dead
clear pulsar
well with necro now buffing balance dots by 35% base
It was already 30% so
It's not a 20 to 35% buff
thick minnow
oh never knew
green valve
Did some 3s saw some rdruids and mws
Looking good for the rest of the season
Not warr fir hpal every fing game
wise valley
@uneven plume yes i suggest you use print screen button
uneven plume
I feel like you’re jebaiting me
jade flint
ne1 tried Draught+bloodtalon builds properly in 2s/3s yet?
also- Oath of Elder druid could be nice for the increased passive damage reduc + get multiple regens just like Natural orders Will. havent tried it yet
clear pulsar
Its likr an unreliable NOW
No good reason to run oath over now if youre looking for survivability
jade flint
but the passive THE PASSIVE!
faint egret
Can any 1 screenshot how much double reju and necro swarm do per tick?
jade flint
anyone playing feral and getting lone empowerment bug in arena?
i can use it once or twice and then it wont work again unless i re-cast kindred spirits
mystic sparrow
Anyone switching from Night Fae to Kyrian now that they're renown 40 for title/mount? More directed dmg in RBGs and arenas seems better than getting kicked 1 sec into Convoke. I'll sorely miss soulshape tho...
wise valley
you gotta understand cov only matters when ur playing an elite level
and at that elite level, ur gonna lose to rando war comps who have 4 iq
cov dmg win u games but handicaps when cov dmg falls off
convoke kick not bad either free cast into that
better to cowabunga and convoke down throats makes games quicker if pulled off
empty field
how important is having both pvp trinkests? I just picked up a 226 soul igniter vs my 197 badge
wise valley
Thats good pick up
empty field
is it big enough to drop the pvp trink set?
edgy shale
no
outer wraith
Is frenzyband + incarn a viable build in pvp or nah
mystic sparrow
It just feels like being able to pump 4-5 starsurges into a FC or arena kill target is better than praying that it pumps 1 out of the 3 people guarding the flag, and not being kicked. But the renown grind tho... /cry
forest kite
renown catchup from 0 to around 35+ can be done in some hour
supple path
thats false it slows down in the 20s
I just did all of LFR on my rogue and went from 24 to 26
green valve
Plus you lose your mission table homies
forest kite
that not false , Do lfr / some 2S first 20 renown then Some rbg to around 25+ then do the whole campain
and you're at 30-35.
forest kite
hold Worldboss / Weekly quest / campain
it's not , in 11 hour ( yeah sunday was a boring day )
i did 0>22 renown as Necrolord ( to get the 8/8 versa gear ) then switched back to ventyr and did 32 renown
in a single day so no it's not that long :>
supple path
thats working overtime in the real world buddy
forest kite
but you really have to hold campain / weekly quest / world boss for 25+ renown
Sunday / Covid shit you know Wife watching crap dramashow on netflix, time is not an issue these day xD
green valve
Yea seems like alot of effort lol
forest kite
yeah it's some effort , but it's not that long , i mean right now you can go from 0 to 30+ in 5 hour or something , the quickest is still LFR / 2S for early catch up > Rbg once 20+ > Weekly + Campain to 30+
after that it's a bit longer / rng , keep doing RBG is probably still the best . Also if you have some overgear friend around , clean all mythic 0 is also nice paste 20 renown
and can be done in 1 hour with huge dps
safe heart
okay yeah its official , resto druids are insane right now
have lost every game against one so far
aroud 1750 mmr
forest kite
in 2s ?
because i don't see these change make Rdruid from crap to insane , just a bit better , still have the same issues.
and in 2s they were already godlike and well 2s is crap
rigid linden
@vestal citrus u get renown from normal dungeons?
forest kite
until 20
you have a good chance to get from yes
after that , pretty impossible xD
before 20 , all crap content give renown ( normal dungeons / 2s / regular bg / Lfr raid ... ) after that not really , Mythic 0 / Rbg / Raid are fine still
safe heart
not sure if its just growing pains of pushing for rival now or if its the buffs but fighting resto druid in 2s is such a pain rn
mystic sparrow
What's the ideal 3rd pvp talent for RBGs? High Winds vs Dying Stars/Crescent Burn? Does Thorns help if opponents are melee heavy? Faerie swarm if you sitting and gonna fight a rogue? The other 2 are Celestial Guardian and Moonkin Aura.
forest kite
not sure if its just growing pains of pushing for rival now or if its the buffs ...
Rdruid was already so strong in 2S ( mostly with warrior )
safe heart
yeah 😦
i pushed almost straight thru from 1600 flat to 1705, then hit a war/hpal comp and we death spiraled back down to 1600 /;
but calling it there, pretty tilted / demoralized
viscid remnant
if the warrior plays it right the matchup could be easier
especially now with rdruid buffs and pala nerfs
split timber
sinful canyon
thatll be better than the 194 most likely
edgy shale
jumped into a skirmish and chomped sum1, here's the frenzyband dam
not too bad 12k extra dam on ur go
will experiment more later
o also, at least in m+ it reduces the cd by like 30-40 seconds it feels like.
lime light
Play incarn kid
edgy shale
lol incarn is so garb u want me to el patron?
lime light
Ok
fresh tangle
Guys I wanna pay all for did specs on PvP so wanted to know which skirt should my leggo should be and what's the safest leggo to use that is all round good for all specs?
lime light
So anyone q'ed yet
I heard that venthyr rogue nerfed in pvp or bugged
And necro one shots
Any truers ?
edgy shale
from rogue discord it seems like flag is doing less dam then ppl expected and necro is hitting for like 8k per with 30 range and generates 4 cp so yeah
lime light
Kid or what?
bitter harness
@tardy hare
junior plover
WTF `/console turnspeed 2000` NO LONGER WORKS WTF
WHAT
PLEASE SAY SIKE
Literally fun detected
junior plover
from rogue discord it seems like flag is doing less dam then ppl expected and ne...
Flag was getting giga buffed by shadowblades for some reason
Got hotfixed
Funny how they had weeks of PTR to prepare but they only nerfed it after it went live and people swapped covenants
shadow creek
did hunters get a buff?
shadow creek
Also, pretty jokes... I legit think blizz increased the sound and frequency of those pings from LFG
bitter harness
tardy hare
junior plover
bitter harness
Also, pretty jokes... I legit think blizz increased the sound and frequency of t...
there's a WA to disable it
bitter harness
Also, pretty jokes... I legit think blizz increased the sound and frequency of t...
https://wago.io/Syx1BIJ9b idk if this still works
shadow creek
Cheers m8
junior plover
Ok 700 is not bad
shadow creek
theres so little players playing arena in the morning. Rdruid 1.6cr, can't find a group for 45 minutes now...
junior plover
If it was truly putting a strain on their servers I can take that as a compromise
They could've just nuked it
junior plover
bitter harness
9.0.5 worst patch ever
obtuse ice
shadow creek
not one week of gettnig sockets in items, after patch, 3 items the same I already have... with sockets
spring turtle
Hey guys, new to Druid this xpac. Playing balance and having a blast. Is there any twitch/YouTube content of someone playing balance in pvp? I can’t really find from my limited searching, looking to improve by watching
junior plover
Check pins in this channel
spring turtle
Sick, thanks
haughty sundial
So what is the consensus for rduid in arena now? Verdant infusion + necrolords?
maiden wraith
As a necro feral in kitty cleave, do u think draught would be better than circle?
junior plover
As a necro feral in kitty cleave, do u think draught would be better than circle...
Probably still circle
you're not looking to kill people with your bleeds
just apply consistent pressure
maiden wraith
kk 🙂
junior plover
wait they made FC changes?
DH will reign supreme
Yeah it probably brings DH closer in with Druid now
that HP doesnt matter too much
and armor
since they are more mobile
shadow creek
As a necro feral in kitty cleave, do u think draught would be better than circle...
hows feral necro going for you
maiden wraith
I swapped just a minute go... Doing some covenant quests atm
junior plover
is this any good for anything druid this xpac
its realistically the last thing i dont have
from the pvp vendor
but stygia is nice
shadow creek
I swapped just a minute go... Doing some covenant quests atm
Cool! keep us updated, I'd love to know, don't see many around at all
shadow creek
shadow creek
If it were for restos, wouldn't necro be alot higher?
junior plover
I don't think many feral mains will go necro this patch (at least on ladder) but resto offspecs will have a nice time
Nah
so how it works
is when you log out
it snapshots the spec you are in at that point
shadow creek
ah right!
junior plover
and puts you on the leaderboard as that spec
so if they did some world content in feral etc
viscid remnant
is this any good for anything druid this xpac
for resto
junior plover
you can usually see all top necro ferals wear resto legendaries 😄
viscid remnant
depends on matchup
junior plover
I see
viscid remnant
sometimes i feel like i never use bm tbh
viscid remnant
also probably decent for boomy i imagine
shadow creek
I use that trinket btw, over battlemasters
junior plover
battlemasters is kinda op
but you gotta get good at predicting your opponent's plays
shadow creek
So is the bearform +_ fleshcraft
junior plover
since you gotta pre-pop it
viscid remnant
yeah but sometimes i feel like dont need bm like against stuff you can kite or rot
junior plover
yeah i gotcha
tiny oar
@clear pulsar do convoke bites proc / consume BT charges or is it bugged like NS regrowth convoke?
edgy shale
according to the best hpal in the game, rogue is better at healing. I'd say in that comp u want MW MONK
junior plover
I think hpriest could be fun too tbh
edgy shale
convoke bites proc BT charges
tiny oar
word ty
junior plover
I think shadowplay with double priest
edgy shale
safe heart
well the feral/spriest/shaman would be like a tight friend group thing but i wnated to make sure taht it wasnt a totally busted comp
junior plover
No its good
edgy shale
anything wiyh spriest is prob decent cuz that shit is so strong
junior plover
rsham goes with virtually anything
edgy shale
mind games just wins u games randomly
edgy shale
i boosted a shaman lol i almost made spriest
but i wanna try ele
did ele get nerfed for pvp? i cant really decide
loud wedge
@vestal citrus would you still prio a guardian since its better for base sit and can go boomer?
i always get sit .. but im only playing 2,5k mmr
edgy shale
guardian druid if needed is like the 2nd best base sitter tho right
maybe not if they take so much dam
tahts true
loud wedge
ok - if your comps is guardian - hpal disc disc - boomer boomer lock dk ret rogue - who would u sit?
do you ghost nodes to send stealth team?
time to force more boomer games then
just rememebr to go treants i guess
junior plover
Anyone know how mindgames and alter time interact?
edgy shale
I HAVE NO IDEA BUT the only thing most dumb than mind games is mage surviabtitrliyty for prob doesn't affect it
i kinda wanna try frost mage but it requires being a mage
jovial pine
Frost mage is usually considered a viable pick in dampening metas tho
So it's not that relevant rn
edgy shale
why doesn't the lance thing crit for 30k
jovial pine
I think you should expect around 10k at the highest
There's a frostbolt build going around, that shatters frostbolts for around that damage
But it's tedious, and not that viable competitively
Definitely on the meme build of things
My mage is around 204 ilvl, and i crit around 8k with ice Lance i think
But it's definitely the easiest spec of all the toons i have
jovial pine
But with the venthyr covenant for mage, you get 6 ice Lance shatters in rapid succession, with ends with a silence and root
Maybe immobilize, but they can't move or cast
But it's dispellable, so can be quite strong, but also really depressing
bitter harness
it's in the pins :)
📌 Balance PvP Guide: https://www.wowhead.com/balance-druid-pvp-guide
dry hound
So what do u guys recommend? Timeworn Dreambinder or Balance of All things?
I go balance of all things on main night fae
tiny tusk
I go boat still as Kyrian after trying both legendaries and covs
dry hound
boat i go i guess
spring turtle
I’m fae with boat atm, thinking of switching to Kyrian. Glad I don’t have to craft another leggo
turbid ravine
Anybody tried Feral necro?
slim blaze
Hey guys, with the new patch, do you think that boomie necro is ok for 3V3?
Cause i want to play boomie in 3v3 but i want to heal in 2v2 and necro is too strong as healer for 2v2
junior plover
I could see necro boomie being okay in rot with an affli lock or something
Or even with an arms warrior maybe
But it's definitely not as good as Kyrian or nf
clear pulsar
I think there's something to be said for it
And the something I want to say is that it's absolutely viable for any rating cutoff you'd be hoping to achieve
Haste vers @plucky trout
junior plover
And the something I want to say is that it's absolutely viable for any rating cu...
While this is generally true for most all specs
If you as a player are only capable of reaching 1800 rating, you might only reach 1700 with a worse spec
So I really don't like preaching that
The question of "is X okay in arena" is really more like "how much of a handicap would it be to play X"
clear pulsar
Right ofc I get that
I feel the same way
But I also would rather tell people that a certain setup can be played rather than not
And give them all these caveats that discourage them for playing the setup they want to play
junior plover
Oh yeah definitely
green valve
Necro boomie, crescent moon, circle, affi rot comp lets go!
green valve
Played a bunch of 2s n 3s on my affi yesterday feels good tbh
clear pulsar
Sunfire, Moonfire, Stellar Flare, Fury of Elune, and root dot pvp talent
All buffed by 45% with AS + conduit, and by 33% with Circle
green valve
Minus rets hitting for 20k now
junior plover
There's a video on youtube of some guy rolling necro Boomie in 9.0.0
clear pulsar
Yeah rudars
junior plover
Mostly memeing
junior plover
I though you'd say he made top8 NA ladder with that build
clear pulsar
His vids are just stream highlights for the most part
clear pulsar
But also super clickbaity titles
junior plover
The Boomie player
clear pulsar
Yeah
They beat method NA
And dipi
So rudarz >> dipi and prev
As far as boomies
junior plover
Oh yeah they did in top16 or smth
clear pulsar
junior plover
So rudarz >> dipi and prev
Unitas beat them 3-2
Unitas beat Method 3-0
It's clear who's better
junior plover
Sunfire, Moonfire, Stellar Flare, Fury of Elune, and root dot pvp talent
All buf...
And it honestly can't be understated how utterly absurd fleshcraft is
pine hatch
please inform me of its absurdness, not too aware of its benefits
clear pulsar
It's 40% now
Of max hp
Channel faster (3s from 4s)
And is a quick damage reduction too
30% I think
While you're casting it
junior plover
You're CC immune during and for 3 (4?) Seconds after
torn bronze
20% reduction but still dope
junior plover
AND you can cast it in bear form
haughty compass
Saw some blood dk in an rbg
junior plover
AND you can swap into ursine vigor pre-game
haughty compass
Use battle master then Fleshcraft
junior plover
Use it
Then swap back to a different conduit
Cdew got a 27k shield on his 206 resto yesterday
haughty compass
Swap to frost and had a freaking 80k hp shield
junior plover
Swap to frost and had a freaking 80k hp shield
clear pulsar
Cdew first time playing rdru or something
Absolutely could
They let you keep fleshcraft pre-game like over a month ago
100%
junior plover
Ah
clear pulsar
They fixed it to stay
junior plover
Fair enough
haughty compass
Yea I was doing that in 2s on my warlock
junior plover
Well either way it's more % now isn't it
junior plover
Yee
haughty compass
Sorry mr. mage rogue
junior plover
So it gets quite absurd
junior plover
Cdew first time playing rdru or something
Pretty much yeah
Can't blame him
I also distinctly remember
A feral druid convoke on him
And fleshcraft was giving him more hps
Than the convoke dps
So he was taking no damage
pine hatch
does the shield stay on you if you cast it before arena opening? 😮
junior plover
Yep
hollow wasp
40% sounds alot. But when i compare it to DMG abilitys like mindgames, it kinda evens out right?
clear pulsar
Fleshcraft is humongous now
junior plover
Helps to start the game
hollow wasp
Or a warriors condemn
clear pulsar
That would be a stupid comparison to make ofc
junior plover
The 20% DR and stun immunity AND shield at the same time
clear pulsar
FLeshcraft isnt the druid class ability
junior plover
Is the big deal
Well
It's not but it's by far biggest
For rdruid
Biggest as in raw numbers
plucky trout
thx @clear pulsar
hollow wasp
Ye alright, im not comparing it good. Should compare it to door of shadows, ye then 40% hp shield is big
junior plover
Yeah i think a good comparison for a feral would be
Phial of serenity
Which doesn't come close to how much fleshcraft offers
Imo
clear pulsar
Yeah but you're adding cc immunity onto fleshcraft
So you could add the aoe stun proc onto phial
pine hatch
perfect form?
junior plover
True
Honestly I've grown to hate both perfect form and that one
But it's mostly because of what happened to FLP
clear pulsar
Bro I swear they're sooo much more impactful than podtender
And people just whine about pod all day everyday
junior plover
Ofc
I mean
Ok
I kinda get it
Pod is weak but if the design of arena is
Once someone dies you can chill out
I can see how people wouldn't want it in the game
But I'd rather not have the actual broken ones
clear pulsar
Yeah but there are multiple specs with cheat death that works in pvp
junior plover
Yep that's been my go to argument
But it can be argued that not every spec should have access to a cheat death effect
Which is fair
But it's SO MUCH WORSE
Than a cheat death
junior plover
Imagine if Cauterize stunned you for 5s
clear pulsar
It's not even good
junior plover
Rogues don't even run cheat death
Priests don't run literal guaranteed resurects
But I will say
I think pod was doing wonders for FLP
green valve
I think ppl are just annoyed you can bop/sac/pain sup pods
junior plover
They managed to greed sac so many times thanks to it
That they actually could've won the series
Through oom
It can definitely be good specifically with a greater sac pala
green valve
Still think ultimate sac is bs
junior plover
Also I hate how you have to target the pod to heal it
Instead of targeting the player in it (which will heal them instead)
It's such terrible design
Pod and player hp should be shared
green valve
Yea that too
junior plover
Or smth
green valve
The targetting on pod is shit
It should have worked by changing the player into the bod
Instead of a brand new target with no healthbar thats awful to click on
junior plover
Yeah I think everyone thought it would rez you with hp based on how much damage the pod took/had remaining hp when you rezd
But nope
Seperate entity
Use greater sac on the player
Sorry, does nothing
You need a target pod macro
green valve
Yea definitely
Like a covenant ability that universally made ppl add a /target regenerating
Macro
junior plover
At least it didn't launch without a nameplate and went on to be like that for a month
Oh wait
Man I love this game
All the dumb shit
Keeps it real
green valve
I still have no idea where the nameplate launches
junior plover
It should be normal now
After they fixed it
It was like 10x the size
But they fixed that too
green valve
I use threat plates so i prob have to turn on enemy minions or guardians or something
green valve
True
bitter harness
hmmmm
junior plover
I dont give 1 shit about your healing stream totem bro
junior plover
POG
green valve
Healing stream also has 8 billion health
junior plover
Yeah
bitter harness
just need the npc id's for the totems
junior plover
Nice
bitter harness
they're on wowhead
junior plover
😻
bitter harness
you can always change the names
to be spirit link instead of spirit link totem etc
junior plover
why
bitter harness
it made me drop 40 fps
junior plover
: (
FAK
Doesnt seem like totem IDs are on wowhead
wowdb maybe?
I must be stupid
bitter harness
frozen salmon
Guys, have some type of guide for guardian pvp/RBG?
junior plover
carry flag
sit cap
win games
wtf
it showed me that I can post :EZ: but its nitro 😠
bitter harness
junior plover
I will never be a nitro slave
junior plover
no dont
junior plover
tardy hare
forest kite
how many rbg wins for spider mount?
clear pulsar
40 wins above 1400 rating
forest kite
damn thats not bad way faster then freaking 2s and 3s lol
bitter harness
3s is pretty quick isnt it
forest kite
i thought threes is like 200 wins or something
clear pulsar
100 wins for 3s
forest kite
oh thats not bad then
forest kite
fair
well i have time.. my guild wont be mythic raiding so its time to grind pvp and gold lol
bitter harness
how'd that go for him
spring turtle
Ok guys. Is switching to kyrian as balance worth it? I feel so useless when convoke isn’t ready as nf
And casting without getting kicked can be a huge pain
junior plover
how'd that go for him
dealt 15k that got healed instantly
got incap roard
trinketed
lost 1 minute later cuz no trinket
bitter harness
wise valley
@spring turtle if its really a bummer to have convoke kicked yes
Ur not gonna magically win more games
spring turtle
In rbgs sometimes you just gotta go ya know
wise valley
Gotta go?
spring turtle
Start the go
When they got a bunch of dudes with kicks around you ain’t ever gonna be able to cast it safely, at least in my experience
tropic panther
aura mastery baby
bitter harness
oh yeah aura mastery now syncs with convoke
if the hpal picks the pvp talent for it
it used to lessen shadow DoTs
divine vision? idk
spring turtle
Nice then
forest kite
soo dumb question....
do wins in 2s 3s and rbg above 1400 all count toward spider mount
fleet panther
yes they do
forest kite
or is it individually counting?
fleet panther
just you don't gain %age at the same rate
fleet panther
maybe account faction...like idk if you play horde and alliance you'll get both at the same time
fleet panther
so i play 3 toons in RBGs at 1400+ (same server and faction) and the my current % is the same on all 3 and move all together
fleet panther
likewise. I need to really make a push to finish it out. i'm at like 72% or something
forest kite
im at 1450 in 2s 1300 in 3s and 1k in rbg haha
only 1% in and damn push it!!! knock it out!
quiet vine
Guys, Frenzyband or Eye of Fearful Symmetry for feral pvp ??
clear pulsar
@tiny oar @stray sigil we are in it ladies and gentlemen, we are IN IT
junior plover
Which ones are those
sour fulcrum
junior plover
The satyr ones
Rogue just killed me 100-0 through barkskin bear + frenzied in shadowy
from full hp
sub rogue too
imagine being a rogue and pretending youre underpowered
when you get shadowy duel convoke essentially
manic radish
would a 220 haste vers wep be better than a 226 vers mastery wep in PVP
for balance
junior plover
probably not
Warrior reflecting mindgames
heals now
?????????
WARRIOR BUFF
clear pulsar
It's like as if you got mindgamesd
haughty compass
Wat
junior plover
Yeah if a warrior reflects a mindgames he heals for the full amount
that it wouldve dealt
it seems
viscid remnant
Wtf
junior plover
Gonna test in a sec
honest mesa
That's bonkers
junior plover
They fixed a bug that made the priest heal himself on reflect
and now we have that
kekw
blissful belfry
u sure the war didnt get healed by the dmg the priest did to him after he got reflected?
junior plover
My priest is pretty confident
but im testing sec
nvm my priest is a dumbass
ffs
I WANNA BE MAD ABOUT WARRIORS
blissful belfry
hehehe
tiny oar
<@!237412116024393728> <@!142673512987885568> we are in it ladies and gentlemen,...
Big dam shoulders gz buddy
clear pulsar
Before reset maybe?
bitter harness
what?
blissful belfry
depends NA or EU
bitter harness
EU
junior plover
no
blissful belfry
does it
bitter harness
EU reset was like 10h ago
blissful belfry
NA was 26 hours ago
junior plover
like 16h ago
ye
EU reset was 10h ago servers came up 15h ago
so cant be either
bitter harness
bitter harness
no its 24h time format
bitter harness
🐒
junior plover
thats what I meant
surreal heron
junior plover
at least it's a free country
pine hatch
yo what could possible comps be for necrolord feral 2v2
magic dagger
When do you guys run thorns vs strength of the wild?
junior plover
3s or 2s
junior plover
yo what could possible comps be for necrolord feral 2v2
I like the idea of spriest
probably want to run double dps
or you can run rsham/feral and oom
pine hatch
disc/feral possibly?
junior plover
holy would be better
because you just really lack damage to kill anyone
you will win most games by ooming i'd imagine
rotund crystal
feral druid legendary still symmetry with 9.0.5?
blissful belfry
Feral now also take balance of all things. They go boomy affinity, enter eclipse and then switch in cat form and burst in the crit window!
lol jk jk
clear pulsar
Hmmmm but what if
rotund crystal
just dont want to waste more soul ash
so what is the optimal legendary for 9.0.5?
clear pulsar
Nothing's changed, Frenzyband isn't that sick
turbid ravine
I just swapped to necro and need to upgrade Abominable stitching, which requires 6 followers. I only have 5. Guess I must wait until next week to continue campaign?
supple path
That is not a part of the campaign
only thing you need to do that doesn't have the campaign shield around the ! quest marker is the sidechain for Emani
tall knoll
Is the passive pvp damage trinket any good for nightfae boomie? The on-use one just feels pretty bad with the 1 minute cooldown vs cavoke 3 minutes
tall knoll
Yeah but most of the time its about 1 extra use inbetween.
Just curious how often the passive trinket actually procs. If its about 50% uptime that wouldnt seem too bad. Hard to get the random proc to like up with convoke but yeah. Just asking before spending my conquest on a trinket
tiny tusk
its not bad but its still random, and the on use lines up with FoE