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Yeah honestly I don't personally care
But i think the stance is healthy for the game
And I think helping competitors would be the healthy stance for wow
I mean wow arena streamers are just glorified selfplay boosters at this point
Idk it's a super deep issue
Just let our boys compete
The bans fix NOTHING on either end
People will still buy boosts, people will still RMT boosts if it's cheaper
Bro do you know what happened to hots pros?
They told them they were renewing them for an extra year
Then they axed the scene
Guys dropped out of school and shit
Ffs
Even casters for hots
Got told 2 weeks before the season
That they were fired
Like come the fuck on
And it's so weird because they somehow made Hearthstone a compelling esport
For so long
Yet anything else they touch just turns to shit
Bro no shit
If you make top 4 every single tourney in the year
You make less than minimum wage in the US
And that's the AWC that pays better than MDI
Ofc, MDI is shit
Complain about them not paid, but no one watches
Ah I see what you're saying
Oh no I'm saying awc
For real, but it pulls in like twice the viewers than arena lol
Nope
AWC has great viewership for how small the playerbase of arena is
Am I crazy?
Valorant btw lol
Thing is MDI gets a lot of passing viewers
Like you tune in, watch for 5 mins and remember you don't care for watching full dungeon runs for a full hour
MDI has 100x the playerbase and is much easier to understand too
It has everything going for it
But concurrent viewers AWC always has had more than MDI
Eitherway I agree, I can’t watch mdi for more than 30 seconds
Since Legion at least
No MDI before legion my man

The problem with competitive fucking dungeons, is the content is easier as the expac goes on
Nah they rebalance them
Speaking of NBA tho
Each season
I'm so torn on the 6ers
But the mechanics of the bosses / trash is the same
Yeah it mostly just gets stale
Ben simmons is insane but if I have to see another Embiid side swipe foul bait I'm gonna fucking scream
But numbers wise the difficulty is similar
I guess you have more options to deal with the mechanics tho
That's too many non gamer words
How could I understand any of them
Embiid just pulled his hamstring reading that
I believe it
'But just for 2 days next game he'll be totally fine'
Yep.
See Blizzard actually insane esport organizers
Make AWC just 2 cups per month so players can make no money but still need to commit their entire wednesday so can't get a full time job either
The perception of boosting being a problem is bad for them. Banning a top player is a good business move

The perception of boosting being a problem doesnt change with banning pros from competing, or even from the game
All the banned pros still boost on new accts and pcs
It’s funny you mention that, I was watching the last one and being like... man venruki and those guys are working this ALL weekend
And doing pretty well throughout
Wish they’d get rid of supa tease tho... god
The only idea I could see there is that because they're public figures associated with Blizzard directly
Them being boosters is like Blizz promoting rmt
But eh
Bro just
Keep the tournament realm permanently open
And let people host third party tournaments
yea thats a thing
Like
one of my friend knows how to social engineer blizz to actually transfer the chars between accounts
hes done it a few times
stupid complex ass shit i cant remember

Social Engineering big companies is great
I may or may not know how to scam any item from an amazon warehouse
fake IDs and shit are pretty easy to make in photoshop
Most hilarious shit Ive ever seen related to social engineering
Is when I jokingly asked a friend who was SEing an amazon return to jack off onto the item and tell them some weird liquid was leaking from the battery
And he went through with it
Then he sold it
Great times

nice
I do not condone jacking off on Amazon orders and lying to support 
Bro i was 16 or smth give me a break

I will never not find it hilarious no matter how disgusting it is
think everyone did weird shit as a teenager
I can't wait to wake up and see where the AWC drama goes
I wanna see a boycott of awc 4 by all top competitors
That'd be spicy
Whaazz wont do it

why would they boycott lol
Ye point is
wasnt zeepye in an org too
U either make $$$ from boosting
Or you get a real job and no time for competing
Also orgs pay jack shit to these small fish
Basically yeah
Cuz you make no money unless you're literally top 2 every tourney
But to get there you definitely have to practice like it's a full time job
I remember Cdew talking about
I forget who it was
Blizzcon 2019 champ?
He was gonna quit right before Blizzcon because he was fucking broke with a baby on the way and shit
Cdew was giving him money
So he could keep playing
If you aren't cdew pikaboo or winning every awc
You're fucked
And again, you'd be hard pressed to find 1 team in a game like league in the smaller regions (which still have more money in them than awc) that doesn't have at least 1 person boosting
Riot knows but as long as it's not public
They don't care
They know it's a part of the scene
They know it's necessary so that these guys can commit to playing the game full time before they hit the jackpot
Fighting it does nothing but hurts both parties
Fuji stream is next

noob question: first time tanking agaisnt raging. What is the best way to deal with that? kill all mbos at the same time or one by one?
oupsie
naw he's asking int he right place. pvp is a cosntant battle against raging

We're constantly raging over here
It's either over warriors or over Blizzard
Or over Blizzard's take on warriors
altho, i thought we were mad about warriors, wait til u see rogue discord
they are so salty and furious at trhe same time
Rogues are mad cuz they got nerfed week 2
ya they aer still bitching about that
And they don't realize they're still like, easily A tier
Sub got nerfed and are arguably still top 4 melee, but bitch endlessly
war is tough for rogues tho in all fairness
Warrior discord is something else tho bro
Legit the worst pvp channel in any class discord I've seen
Their best moments are just when they're going off about lifting or some shit
Anytime they tlak about the game it's just pure artistery
They do realize
But rogue must always be S tier
Otherwise the game is unfair
Yeah i checked warr discord pvp

I was memeing with the arms are brainless and I could hit 400 rating higher with arms
But arms warriors are the only players trinketing my clones
When everyone is safe and full hp
game after game
@junior plover don't think that's accurate to modern league
Small regional leagues not the top4
Like Brazil or Ultraliga
yes i don't think that's accurate at all for modern league
Well I can't drop any names but I personally know it's happening constantly in Ultraliga at least
Which is the most competitive minor region rn
Well
My bad
Minor minor
Not like worlds minor
Regional leagues i think they call them
ERLs
It's 100% a thing in latin american scenes in dota and league too
Also holy shit bro the lack of self awareness
Watched a rudar video
Where he wins a 1v1 vs xaryu
And xaryu's bitching about how bad mages are
Is just baffling
I will admit I don't know anyone on AGO Rogue
there's a fuckton of money in ERLs now
Seems completely detached from reality that he's like MISSING DB RING
But they're basically a talent printer so I wouldn't be surprised
And bitching for legit 10 mins straight that mages dont have a stun
and riot are really hard on boosting
He's staying at near full hp for 8 minutes vs a boomie and bitches about boomie self healing
ETc etc
there's no chance plays on teams like fncr or arge
Shushei was on the front page of our boosting site for 4 years
Just complaining about how boomie has all these great advantages that mages dont have
Like you'd think fire mage is not even duelist viable listening to xaryu
As he misses his 3rd db ring
That's a world champion too
?
They only crack down on it when it gets public
And when I say miss I mean, get the DB, get the ring, but the ring is off target
What I mean by that is that Shushei was boosting with us any many others, it's not really a secret in the scene
who are you talking about
shushei?
only shushei i can think of hasn't played since like 2013
like as a contra example
dopa
was hit for boosting
and got lifetime banned
like 8 years ago
i thought we were talking about pros he nver was pros or wanted to
dopa was a pro
Dopa rejected actual offers to keep boosting
Yeah i don't really have anything to say for that
You're right
I don't know why he got hit but shushei around the same time didn't
Why people still do it in small leagues
And don't get fucked
don't get me wrong i'm still sure that people are boosting in smaller leagues
Yeah my statement might've been a hyperbole you're right
he played in 1 qualifier, failed to qualify and never played pro again
idk if u can call that a pro
But league pros almost never get banned for boosting anymore
I can't recall anything
he failed to qualify because he got banned before a game @edgy shale
He got banned for acting like a little bitch actually
Well his team
And then they got him for boosting
his team trolled because he got banned
he was banned right before a game
so his team just trolled and then got dqed
regardless i wouldn't call him a pro, despite the fact he clearly had the skill of it
First article about his ban
Is from 7 days after the tournament
U might be right
But idk
How much damage reduction does survival instincts and bark skin give togeather ? It’s multiplicative so it’s not 70%, right?
Doesn't matter really
https://gyazo.com/d143c98538d98bb8e212af0d2ce0b339 thsi is the most recent "boosting" suspension i can find
he got unbanned
They both leaked that they boosted eachother
he was banned for behavior i think
But I guess not boosting for money so it's different
in leeague u get fined for the dumbest shit
no fine and 5 less hours of community service
See just be a big name like Mata
i remember a dude who removed his headset
And you can boost
bro how tilted are you
if you're this guy
get 6 months
and then 2 months later
kiin gets 20hrs community service

Yeah idk maybe riot genuinely doesn't have enough evidence to catch them all
I have a distorted view since i sort of look from the inside out
idk i think if you're boosting in league
you're even stupider than if you boost in wow
as a pro
Yeah
kiin is a beast
cause in league at least that shit has a reasonable path to actually making money
In league you actually can make it big
thats prob the only reason why lol or idk
You aren't stupid if you're boosting in wow
You are stupid if you aren't
League is the opposite

But yeah the Mata screenshot is a good example I think
I don't think Mata even competes anymore does he?
But he's a huge face for LCK
Gets a slap on the wrist
In wow they just nuke the scene
in csgo actual cheating as a coach warrants a lesser punishment than selling a selfplay in wow
Yes it's multiplicative, so you take 100 * 0.8 * 0.5, a 60% dr
If these huge esports are doing this I'm sure wow could take itself less seriously
No lol skill-capped is taking a page out of wowhead
Talking about non-news
Just to post more

I figured
ok
facts
he was the best support in the world for 2 years
imp was a literal dog and he turned him world class
when imp when to china he nev er looked as good
2014 worlds aka asian olympics
I mean Mata was only good in like 2013-2014
y sadge
Imp was decent 2019 or so yeah
ya i remember soem good performances in china, but i just mean he never looked as good as when he was w/ mata

he was on uhh lgd i think
bro ssb blew chunks
They were too good
can't even believe
And only scrimed each other
i stayed up and got so excited forf the legendary matchup
to be a complete and utter stomp waste of time
JDG
new g2 im sure is gonna be good
but its not like perkz was holding them back in worlds
Rekkles makes me wet
yeah he's insane
Well
According to perkz
They probably would've won worlds but he could only play 2 adcs
And they got denied both
Every game in the finals
So idk maybe it was his fault
Yeah but without much success
I think the played jhin
All 3 games
In the final
And last year he was just bad sadly
Compared to the competition
perkz is like the king of sucking domestically normal season
then just being insane playoffs / worlds / whenever he needs to eb clutch
its like impact but better
I'm smurfing our fantasy league by just picking 2x rogue 2x g2 + random support every single game
So please just win this year thanks
nah he plays tanks too
he built his reputation playing sejuani
first season on sk
Idk even fnc players say
He's like the best carry jungler in eu
But on support junglers
He just doesn't have impact

into bwipo nisqy
don't get me wrong bwipo is fine
but he's the most 50/50 player on the planet
even more than caps ever wsa
Inspired
is a really good shout for junglers too
True I would probably see g2 inspired
I think inspired's lowkey been the best jungler this season so far
If anyone
i'm smurfing our fantasy draft
by just going odo inspired caps rekkles + random support
every game
Inspired top 50 euw when he was 15
Maybe he is the jungler we need
He's only had a real team for a year
He could legit be insane

^ polish junglers
taking the cop out route to gear on my priest alt lol
feels good pushing radiance in a team fight lol
i raelly feel like im doing so much werk, mucho skill
Or I'll just queue shadow Destro and oneshot in opener to 1800

in my opinion, spriests do a lot of damage

but thats my just opinion
Spriests are ferals but casters
Prove me wrong
Supposedly a dot oriented spec turned into a burst machine
With incredible defensive tools
Great offheals
I think that's why I get hard thinking about leveling the priest
i played spriest a bit in prepatch while the ghosts were busted
was pretty fun but i felt filthy cheating on feral
i mightve gotten 1600 in less than 2000 games if i didnt waste time playing spriest
I’ve playing demo lock like a loser, but it’s incredibly fun
U can redeem yourself by queueing demo feral in 3s
Man I really wanna play disc in demo feral
But the cc dr

Mindgames sounds so good
My Druid is pretty hard stuck at 2100. Team doesn’t play enough, so I’m messing with demo atm
no the true feral caster is ass. they're even getting sbt
What is this supposed to mean
do u mean about ass getting sbt or ass being a caster?
i sit around trowing my daggers
mehh and raiku are repping on na
Ass getting sbt
they're getting sbt for slice and dice
yeah
new passive that extends duration of snd when they spend cps
Insane
losing 10% energy regen on SnD tho, obv this is wayy better
i think its 3 seconds per CP spent, so its basically 1 cp snd, then never worry about it for the rest of ur life lol
And mutilate being 2-4 cp per cast is insane for pace too
So even if it was 1s per cp like sbt it'd still be a better extension
Not counting Convoke
ass energy regen if u have dots on 2 targets or more is absolutely stupid
Watching these skillcapped videos trying not to suck 😂 feel like such a moron lol
Is spicy chicken still the top 3s comp for boomie
Wtf is spicy chicken lol
is there a reason sometimes ill convoke on feral and the cd goes off but i wasn't interupted by anything and the cast never starts
very very occasionally happens
Do you have some dum shit macrod together with Convoke?
nah
i dont macro w it bc i'd imagine sometimes if you tigers fury in a macro it may sometimes flip the order
god the names are dumb as shit makes me rage sometimes

Lsd2 might be dope come patch
Cuz it's unkillable
Think that was named in like mop?wod?
war ret x is god comp
Unkillable and like insane cc
that comp is prob just always broken at end of xpacs
was called godcomp back in mop
when it was beyond the best comp in the game
its prob just boomy/war
wats that
never heard anyone call that hero cleave
is the bloodspattered scale better than 40% vers increase?
whats jungle cleave?
gylph why does the mies say that he can't get girls when hes not ugly or anything. is it part of his act and he's a ladies man or is he actually just that artistic
feral war
wait
Everything is called cleave
hunter war?
oh u just mean jungle
jungle cleave was around in like s1, just wondering what people were asking for in shatt in like 06
kung fu cleave
yeah but maye he lost the magic
anywawy, is blood spattered scale better for gdruids in pvp or just a normal pvp trink
he keeps saying "if you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a fat girl titties, andu can dodge a grandma slinging poo" makes u think
ya he is
can u move ur own frame
bro i need to play with him
on my rogue
when can we do RBGS i need to come on my 194 ilvl rogue
yes sir i am
@edgy shale would be happy to play with ya
i want u to see how maybe bad i maybe am
Druid only rbgs let's gooo

stop raiding nerd
ya im kinda bored of this tier but i cant fuck over my guild
listen do they really need a feral in there
Raiding sux quit ur guild
they do, feral owns in CN
ipod are you alliance
wish fuji would invite me to rbgs but we arent cool like that 
😦


whats with all you whordes
dont you wanna be a cool nelf like meeeee
i mean look at them hops
ya sure id be a nelf if 98% of the playerbase weren't horde
i would be alliance if my partners werent artistic
😦 😦
Verdant seems like the legendary to get.. Kinda sucks it drops from a worldboss. Gearing up an alt druid atm. Is the drop 100%, and also are there any changes coming that might shift the meta towards another legendary?
Verdant also getting buffed more next patch
Yeah the memories are acct wide
For anyone that hasn't understood the change on Ringing Clarity:
In my opinion a great change which keeps the value in PvE but stops the random 1-GCD Oneshots in PvP.
Almost a full gcd between every judgement, this is how it looks now in 9.0.5: https://t.co/zuiXlygmff
Divine toll change
Looks decent compared to one deags in 0.8 sec
Sorry i mean im gearing up a druid. Ill just wait until its time for that WB then, is there a schedule for the different world bosses?
(dont have a main druid as such not the memory either)
dunno, if you google you probably find a schedule.
gl bro
waiting 3 weeks for a legendary is bonkers
ye its actually quite dumb world bosses even drop legendaries.
my ele friend had to wait until the last worldboss till he got his legendary after they released the worldbosses
Im not time pressed at all. Its just dumb that the particular legendary you want isnt available AT ALL if a certain WB isnt spawned.
It'll be 2 resets btw
Next week is maldraxxus wb
Then the week after it's ardenweald
Ok thank u
Guaranteed double extended CWs 
I'm a 226 duelist rdruid and people decline me in LFG because I'm a rdruid lol

on 1.6 btw

ppl very much look for the class, not the player
soo. if i really stink at druid pvp, but i need to get 2100, what do you think would be the best comps (RBG is not an option, i hate that stuff) to try? 😄
hmmm 😄
if u wanna play 3s play shadow/affli and watch them do their stuff
i'll play anything that's not rbg
i kinda like afflis though. ir mostly i hate playing against them on my non-druids, which makes me think i'd like them
Lmao ppl still thinks rdru is dogshit
Rdrdus brain if its not super overpowered as usual its bad
How can u even die as rdru impossible
The only thing that is bad about rdru is their mana
they spend lots of mana in short time and are vulnerabl to swap if they ever mess up positioning
But thats why u are a little disgusting erper in goldshire
Female nelf
To drink every 2min
They r fine n will b very good in 9.0.5 :)
yea like pair mana problems with ability to drink whe never the fuck u want so who cares
yeah that FUCK baited me

WHI is priviledge
NF or Nercolord for Guardian Druids?
Any Balance druids with 210+ ilvl?
I am looking for a Frozen chicken team
But LFG is horrible rn
what's frozen chicken team ?
frost mage boomy healer i guess
@rigid linden wdym brother
Big zzz
Friendly reminder there are 2 regions, might consider telling US which one @arctic rivet
Monkeys @tardy hare that's a name for it
I faced IT once, they were horrible but boomkin had bear form binded and IT took US forever to go thro hpal cds and boomkin cds
Ok that's kinda random, but ye
After all the nonsense you guys spout. That's where you draw the random line 😂

Dk always reminds me of dh
I'd love to get some coaching if any of you big feral fellas would want to some time
Just watch me play jungle or some shit in discord
😂
Now that is fair
Ive b en sitting in discord with these jungle lfg fellas in hopes of clean traps
Trying to backseat game someone never helps anyway
They either dont listen or they forget to do some basic shit cuz they heard ur words and every other thought went out the window
Like live
Watching a vod and reading feedback after the fact is more helpful and easier for everyone involved
True
Haha I hear that 😂
u can't setup burst with the fucking icicle ass frost ability?
Isn't jce form going off gcd
are weapons a massive upgrade? i feel pre weak without one
i got everything conq besides waep
weap*
aight
Almost no diff vs normal item
its hooge
its more than a normal item, but dont matter nearly as much as weapon dmg for maylay
No its wrong thinking

cats attack with paws
U got baseline more stats on weapon like int
So u gain int and two secondary stats
And as melee
U gain wpn dmg agility and two secondary stats
haste
So for caster the pleb weapon vs big weapon is same upgrade as peasants boots and King boots
i have 35 haste in my pve gear like a buas
banned

unforch it was a free boost
Egirl by any chance

I swear to god
all warriors and hpals who somehow didnt hit 2.4k yet
are 1.2k players
cant wait for pala to get an another giga nerf 9.0.5 and them still be #1 healer
why say hpal when jits all pal

ret pal def isn't poop in 2s
it's like feral tier or smth
the mies would ban u for even mentioning 2s
idk, i feel like ret/feral in 2s is some schnasty shit
they literally NEVER die while pumping while time
idk im probably biased
i never feel pressured by ret
and they cant sit on healer because they get outhealed
no mortal stirke either
its kinda like convoke where
if you have a trinket
against a ret if u ever don't have trinket
u dont lose to ret
u can just die

i kinda wanna go back to convoke people press trinket like its free now

cast cyclone on warrior in opener and he probably trinkets
i was complainign about this yesterday, but ret feels fine until he proc mini wing and u die
yeah u gotta be careful
was cd on freedom
cuz i feel like its always up
and i get discourged to even bother root
25s
they get like every other root
but it still buys enough time generally to get some distance
also if healer dispells 
woosh
Any drama development in the last 8h?
Ret is super strong in 2s rn
Cuz they can double healer for a while
And do a divine toll one deag once every min
And wings goes
But iam sure u cant lose to ret as venthyr warrior
Idk I feel like you can consistently get their defensives if u just do the tiniest go on them
oh no no no no

is it rude to say that person is subhuman?
el patron grant me strength to deal w/ these people

I mean its his first season

But I found it funny that the 2 specs happened to be arms/hpal
dots refunding ur energy? oh u mean the mechanic ass has?!
no 

new 9.1 talent for feral leaked
seems insane tbh
replaces sotf
finally some feral buffs


truth
Ok so lets see
Convoke is stronger than SOTF
Kyrian is stronger than convoke
SR is just Kyrian

time to stop fucking around and queue some SR feral



i still haven't even craftede sym, im saving my ash for the frenzyband meme
so i can play 2 classes w/ leggos that make emeny bleed from generators
but holy shit having 15% more damage on every go
it must be broken
it simply must be

it simply must be
just kyrian tf sr dark archangel
and slap that warrior
slap BT on top of that for good measure
crit 35k bites
fucking go to town
i still need so many leggos tf this game is so annoying man
the ultimate "I sure hope this crits" build

who needs lucky crits when you have
45% more damage done on each go
this post was made by curio SR gang
u do, cuz withouty sotf ur gonna have negative energy/cp generation
at least old savage sound did something
gotta do 5 cp its only proper
the new one is super beta
its an enrage effect or w/e
or magic?
it can be dispelled somehow
is all i know
just use it as another TF like we use kyrian

It lasts 3s because after that

why is feral so much more fun than balance? wtf
since when?
no
by who
Ye but 80% damgur buff

new moon in rbgs yay or nay?
Timeworn Dreambinder Lego
is it good for PVP
better than BOAT ?
Alrighty NF feral. Got Symmetry maxed out. I don't pve much what's worth making that might be worth a try 😂
curio
1%
Do I want to pool energy for bite in pvp? If so, when?











