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#pvp
tulip falcon
guardian is pretty much the only base def that needs to sit on top of flag
green valve
Way better then just being a slow bot on my lock in mid
paper solar
Is Moonkin/Ret a good 2v2 comp?
pallid vessel
ret/x is pretty much a good 2v2 comp right now
paper solar
lol aite 🙂
pallid vessel
i actually cant think of anything that couldn't get at least 2100 paired with ret
other than the obvious memes like blood dk
green valve
Ret warr sucks thats about it, but thats on warr just being shit without constant healing
tardy hare
just put a healer with it and you 
pallid vessel
edgy ember
moonkin need Versa/haste rbg?? or versa/crit?
paper solar
haste
torpid crest
Pretty new to pvp and i have a lot of pve gear how do i determine whether items with vers is better than items without? Examples are 226 mast/haste neck vs 200 crit/vers
junior plover
Pretty new to pvp and i have a lot of pve gear how do i determine whether items ...
about 6 ilvls is where it might be worth dropping a vers piece
balmy vortex
whats the actual win condition there
junior plover
more is generally a waste of time
sonic plover
Any tips on beating monk comps as feral/x? They just train me and I die
I try bear form much but then I do 0 dmg
safe heart
sinful canyon
anyone have a good arena pvp discord?
really wanna try pushing as feral but LFG is taking forever
cant even find players
junior plover
so if I charge out of fist they stop dmg?
It has a range
you get out of it - you dont take damage
torpid crest
about 6 ilvls is where it might be worth dropping a vers piece
Is it the same with about 6 ilvl for necks/rings as chest etc?
junior plover
Necks and Rings are more arguable
I would aim to have versa on my ring even if i drop 10 ilvls or so but i wouldnt be dropping ilvl for versa ever
just dont sweat it
the difference is absolutely marginal
torpid crest
alright thanks i was just getting blowed up even in bear form so thought it was a vers problem even tho i have 15%
tulip falcon
yea
stray sigil
good one less psychopath
stray sigil
hes been the same asshole for over a decade now lol
clever pecan
does anybody know what the best g druid leggo is called for rbg and what slot it goes in
tulip falcon
does anybody know what the best g druid leggo is called for rbg and what slot it...
legacy of the sleeper
i put it on boots
clever pecan
thanks!
junior plover
https://twitter.com/Jahmilli_TGD/status/1365031654566232068
To be fair
It sounds like he just flirted and she never told him to stop
"sexual harassment"
tulip falcon
i mean who tf knows what she considers as flirting
junior plover
Seriously there should be some legal framework to punish people who just throw words like these around
Invalidating people who are actually getting harassed
And also ruining public person's life potentially
Makes an intentionally broad statement about how he sexually harassed her, then adds later that he was flirting even though they never met before (sounds normal to me????) and that it was over discord voice comms
Like seriously fuck off
hardy cargo
@junior plover you forgot she brings it up a year later
junior plover
Yep
junior plover
I mean to be fair a lot of the time people will keep quiet about trauma or w/e
But holy shit she literally admitted he just flirted and she didn't tell him she was uncomfortable
Was it unprofessional for him to do so? Did he dismiss her questions about the tournament and just keep flirting? Idk, maybe, but who the fuck cares. At best that just makes him an insufferable asshole
tulip falcon
yea idk i feel like if it actually happened people would have noticed
if it was a stream thing
junior plover
I think she was setting up pcs
Or something
Probably on call with the team
Or w/e
Because she said she doesn't have the voice logs from a year ago
So it couldn't have been public
tulip falcon
either that or it didn't happen
it already went down from sexual harassment to flirting so
he prob said hi
pallid coral
i mean someone attempting to flirt with you while you're working can absolutely be sexual harrasment
?
blissful belfry
I dont now whats up with old women (50 years+) but they always find me oh so damn charming and compliment me and tell me how handsome i am. I think ima file a police complaint
tulip falcon
we don't even know what he said so
pallid coral
yes so why are we assuming that someone who has repeateadely been an absolute psycopath
is in the right here
tulip falcon
because if someone makes a claim it's up to them to prove it
blissful belfry
Because its the presumption of innocence
tulip falcon
if people automatically believe shit like this its why cancel culture has so much power atm
junior plover
i mean someone attempting to flirt with you while you're working can absolutely ...
I mean sure but if she didn't tell him she's uncomfortable with it, what if he's a socially oblivious wow nerd?
pallid coral
? in a professional setting
junior plover
There's millions of people in this world who don't know flirting with someone at work is unprofessional
Especially kids playing games
tulip falcon
i mean before we get in to the ins and outs of it, probably be a good idea if we even knew it happened
junior plover
Can this be compared to actively sexually harassing someone?
I really don't think so
pallid coral
yes?
tulip falcon
some girls think guys being friendly is flirting
tulip falcon
so who knows
junior plover
Idk man
blissful belfry
im 26, kissed 1 girl in my lifetime and am the most awkward shitter u'll ever meet. Age doesnt mean u get less awkward / better with social interactions
pallid coral
it's not can it be compared to sexually harassing someone
its just
it is sexually harassing someone
junior plover
I'm sure there are dozens of relationships that started from flirting at an esports event
pallid coral
i'm sure there is
junior plover
It's not inherently wrong to do so
If you're uncomfortable with what's going on
You only need to say a word
pallid coral
i'm sure there are also dozens of relationships that starts with a boss attempting to sleep with an employee
that doesn't make that not also wrong
tulip falcon
why is it wrong if they both are fine with it
junior plover
I get your point but I disagree flirting at an event is inherently wrong
chrome panther
Harassment is repeated offenses after being told to stop
tulip falcon
and hell we dont even know what he said yet soooooo
chrome panther
The initial flirtation is not legally wrong in any way
tulip falcon
i've seen women accuse dudes of "trying to get with them" or "flirting" just because they are being nice
as they are generally nice anyway
obvs this guy isnt a nice guy but ya know
junior plover
Yeah and I'll admit i went on a rant but there's real possibilty that there was clear context that she wanted him to fuck off
tulip falcon
because pvp drama
junior plover
I just don't like the idea of putting this in the same basket as someone going to an event and following a girl asking her to show her tits, to come over to your hotel room, etc.
It really waters down the implications behind "sexual harassment"
Rup
Rip
tulip falcon
oh ok thats a no word
junior plover
R word
tulip falcon
but yea there was a point when feminists tried to redefine R at some point
junior plover
They still try
tulip falcon
when it does actually harm real victims
same sort of shit she did here
by saying he sexually harassed her at a method tournament then changed it to flirting... now we'll probably find out it he said "hello"
Twitter
queen holly
what's the cloak enchant for feral, speed or 30 stam?
tulip falcon
you can go either honestly its such a minor diff
junior plover
Yep
tulip falcon
some take speed or stam
tulip falcon
probably like 200 hp
junior plover
Hmmm
queen holly
you get like all the % stam increases from covenant as well
but I guess it's never going to make a difference
tulip falcon
yea but 10 stam is still 10 stam
the speed increase is like 3% i think? which ain't bad
defo noticable
but again 10 stam or 3% speed both are minor so use w/e
split timber
How many bears we have that pvp?
stray sigil
good fucking riddance if u ask me
tulip falcon
How many bears we have that pvp?
in rbg i do ye
pallid vessel
whats the actual win condition there
getting the arms and healer cooldowns in your gos, not taking unneccesary damage, and then killing him in cross CC when they dont have anything to respond, same win condition as anything
you just have to run away from arms warriors a lil extra
blissful belfry
good fucking riddance if u ask me
If they can ban every single player rated higher than me, i might become R1! Although that would require a few thousand bans
pallid coral
Yes @stray sigil he's been a psycopath for years now
blissful belfry
actually, how many player are there above like, 2.2k in 3s? is it a few hundred, thousand or more?
stray sigil
he somehow evaded the ban hammer for years
wise valley
stray sigil
@blissful belfry theres like 400 above me at like 2850
blissful belfry
okay, perhaps a few tens of thousands of bans will be required then
pallid vessel
actually, how many player are there above like, 2.2k in 3s? is it a few hundred,...
looking at the last spot on the leaderboard, probably a few thousand
blissful belfry
ima needa get my screenshots ready if i wanna ban that many dudes
pallid vessel
"every rated above... (one sec)... 1873 in 3v3 sexually harassed me yesterday"
easy
blissful belfry
is that a comment about my pepe ? One more ban for takeout please
blissful belfry
Who doesnt. I see all the time people being like '' I dont like drama'' but then they pull out the good old popcorn bag whenever some pop out
lime light
yes
but i can feel it
its going down
the whole awc
there will be more, cuz the ppl that got banned will expose the others
chain reaction
blissful belfry
only the youngest ones might be safe cuz they havent had time to misstep
blissful belfry
i dont care about people enough to have drama with em
junior plover
I worked with 3 out of 5 season 1 lol world champions
In like 2013
In boosting
No one gives a shit
There was no money in the scene so I sympathize with them
Shushei I miss you and your cat
lime light
i bought my first car, boostin in leage and selling old wow acc and league acc
junior plover
Current pros from smaller regions still boost all the time in league
RIOT knows banning them will kill the scene so they let them be
As long as theyre not obvious about it
junior plover
Meanwhile Reckful was banned since cata and they put a fucking npc in his name after he died
Like he didn't beg them to unban
Every month
tulip falcon
and banned for a dumb reason
junior plover
I don't think he was telling the truth tbh
tulip falcon
these people are only banned from AWC
tulip falcon
they can still play the game
junior plover
But it doesn't matter imo
tulip falcon
reckful was banned from the game as a whole
meanwhile these guys only get an AWC ban
tulip falcon
sure thats nothing
tulip falcon
he was one of the first big people to go down
lime light
loony cant play
tulip falcon
was probably an example
lime light
the game
tulip falcon
he get perma as well?
lime light
yes
lime light
and jahm should end up in psychotherapy center
junior plover
lime light
no, loony perma for rmt
junior plover
Ah
tulip falcon
awc ban + temp suspension i think
lime light
think only awc
junior plover
Doesn't really matter they're not ID bans
They're acc bans
Reckful was free to start a new acc
As well
tulip falcon
ye but i can see why he didnt
junior plover
Yep
tulip falcon
shit aint the same
tardy hare
tulip falcon
hell even if i got permabanned for w/e reason i wouldnt make a new account
tulip falcon
he would play a bit say its not the same and stop
junior plover
I remember a stream where he was able to transfer his banned character
To legion beta
I think
Of wod ptr
And he called blizz on stream and begged them
To let him play it again
tulip falcon
yea
tulip falcon
idk i think they wanted to make an example of boosters
junior plover
Yeah but come on
I feel like the example was clear
It's been so long you can be like ok just because you're such a great creator working with blizz
We're making an exception
He was HUGE in hearthstone
For like 4 years straight
Some random awc 300 viewer andy?
No such luck
lime light
junior plover
Real footage of jah post ban
lime light
Jah just having fun
junior plover
I couldn't give a shit about boosters
It's a really weird thing to ban competitors for
stray sigil
i do find it kinda funny they cry about getting banned
but its literally
against tos
junior plover
I mean yeah
stray sigil
junior plover
Obviously
lime light
there shouldnt be bans for coaching
junior plover
But also blizz will soon have no players to play in awc if these players can't boost
Because they'll have to get a real job
Or just keep boosting
Without competing
There's no option where they just compete without boosting
edgy shale
fejni in awc? thats nuttso
junior plover
Also banning for IRL monies boosting when gold boosting is perfectly ok
Just fucking stop
Clearly not banning because the integrity of the game is at stake
Just because it's cutting into profits
marsh pollen
gold boosting pretty much is real money boosting these days
junior plover
Either ban boosting or don't who cares about rmt in 2021
Exactly
U can already buy gold
U can already sell bnet games on ebay or w/e
lime light
allegro 
lime light
yes
edgy shale
come log better server
stray sigil
ill carry u to glad
stray sigil
sucks to suck
lime light
deleted what
stray sigil
the sexual harrassment tweet
tulip falcon
ye
junior plover
Not jumping to conclusions
She probably got death threats and shit
Just twitter stuff
But yeah drama over
tardy hare
sinful canyon
whats the baseline script fo jungle
clear pulsar
He prob left cuz he got tired of yall arguing that using racial and homoephobic slurs isn't being racist or homophobic
sinful canyon
whats my job in the yungle comp
clear pulsar
Or that flirting with people at your job while you maintain a position of power in the dynamic isn't wrong
clear pulsar
More pro players got banned from competing/perma banned from game today
junior plover
Idk the cultural differences between NA and EU are too big to have a serious discussion about the slurs
clear pulsar
As well as a big thread on reddit over a top 100 guild being racist
haughty compass
They got banned for being racist or what?
junior plover
I don't use them for that reason alone
solemn yoke
one got banned for being racist the other got banned for coaching rmt
clear pulsar
It has nothing to do with culture lol
junior plover
But I can guarantee you EU people don't call some white dude an nword to be racist
They're just idiots
The word carries no racial meaning here
Maybe in France
Or UK
clear pulsar
this fucking fword killed me rages
it's just a word i'm not being homophobic
It's baffling bro the mental gymnastics
Whatever
clear pulsar
I'm not american either
It's not hard to understand
THat words have actual meanings
junior plover
I don't disagree
clear pulsar
In the language/culture they come from
clear pulsar
Yeah that's why you got wardened
junior plover
Yeah fair enough
junior plover
I'm not defending it I'm just tryna give context
Don't use the nword
But i don't think they hate blacks
It wasn't racism it was just utter lack of respect
IMO
sinful canyon
so coaching isnt something you can pay for irl?
haughty compass
No disrespect but you’re a fucking idiot
- that’s how those kinda folks sound to me lol
clear pulsar
That's not what racism is tho @junior plover
sinful canyon
thats really bizarre to me coming from other competitive games
junior plover
You can coach but not if you play with them
clear pulsar
thats really bizarre to me coming from other competitive games
Coaching as in you ask someone to watch over your vods and review htem, probably fine
Coaching in wow refers to really just getting carried it directly
While they tell you waht to do
junior plover
That's not what racism is tho <@!140517245880238101>
Idk I feel like racism implies intent
We could obviously argue about this for days
junior plover
Even if it was racist i just wanted to say i do think they don't actually hate black people
clear pulsar
Not at all
junior plover
And are just dumbos
clear pulsar
People are just obviously averse to being 'targeted' with some accusation or something
sinful canyon
sadge
stray sigil
3s is bad atm
junior plover
Same thing as people calling someone "rworded" is disrespectful towards mentally impaired people
stray sigil
im just waiting for warrior nerfs
sinful canyon
i just want to learn how to play game
stray sigil
before i q again
sinful canyon
im like 1600
junior plover
But it doesn't necessarily imply you hate the mentally impaired
clear pulsar
But racist actions arent only the ones that have intent of harming people due to ethnicity
junior plover
You're just ignorant and stupid
sinful canyon
first time ever playing mmo pvp and i just want to learn
warrior is a giga owner for sure
400 defensives and condemn\
clear pulsar
You're just ignorant and stupid
Yelling racial slurs online because you're ignorant and stupid is still being racist, or do you think it only becomes racism when someone commits a violent hate crime or something?
It's a ridiculous notion
junior plover
No see the only reason why I say this
clear pulsar
You're right, it's not a discussion worth entertaining
junior plover
Is because it was a private conversation
Obviously if you public it's a different issue entirely
But yeah we shouldn't argue about this because I agree it's bad
It's just semantics
We're not really in a disagreement
I don't want to go ahead and say that it's fine to use the slurs in a negative context in a private conversation because that just normalizes the usage of the slur
All I'm saying is that people who don't have anything against black people use the word so i believe his apology
Nothing more
junior plover
I mean yeah and don't cancel someone over being a dumb fuck
Tell them they're being bad and slap a big ass warning
sinful canyon
@stray sigil your brain is very wrinkled. may i ask what the jungle script looks like normally
junior plover
It's similar to the bee movie script
tardy hare
🐒 oo oo aa aa
junior plover
In all honesty you should just watch some gameplay
sinful canyon
idk bro if someone has gamer words on proc when they get angry thats probably a sign of some underlying stuff
junior plover
But generally you wanna kill in trap
teal hinge
I've been meaning to ask.. what's up with 2s these days around 2-2.1 ... All you see is glads every game
sinful canyon
i have been trying but its a bit difficult to grasp everything
yeah i figure trap is most important
clear pulsar
Ruin someones life? Mate this aint going to jail, it's ban from competition on a game that doesn't even pay enough to make a living
Having a 'career' in entertainment and playing video games most of all is absolutely a privilege
sinful canyon
but i was playing some jg earlier and my hunter would stun trap, and priest would fear out
wtf am i supposed to do
junior plover
Kill
tardy hare
Do more dmg
sinful canyon
just stun the other fellas?
edgy shale
it was a heated gaming moment
junior plover
clear pulsar
Sure idk how i feel about the RMT bans
clear pulsar
It's pretty silly and they are in a weird spot not being able to make a living off of what is essentially a profession
junior plover
Yeah that's basically it
edgy shale
no, u blind off target, and kidney kill target
clear pulsar
Time commitment wise
junior plover
Just click better
The RMT bans I'm salty about because you can boost for gold and you can sell gold for real money
Not against tos
tardy hare
?
junior plover
But because they're cutting into blizz's profit to make a living out of playing their esport
sinful canyon
i thought gold was only blizz money
junior plover
i thought gold was only blizz money
Yes but you can gift games
sinful canyon
oh lmao
clear pulsar
i thought gold was only blizz money
Exactly, you can already pay money for a boost, it's just the money goes to blizzard only
sinful canyon
thats a funny workaround
sinful canyon
ofc its just lockeed
junior plover
Blizzard is basically setting a precedent
Making all the best players never sign up for competition
And boosting from the shadows
Ofc
But yeah basically if you're not Cdew or Pika
sinful canyon
reminds me of OOOOLD league of legends
junior plover
Fuck you
sinful canyon
now its got esports money
junior plover
You get to make money till you're banned
sinful canyon
but fellas had to boost in league
clear pulsar
They'll just get better at using burner accts and VPNs
sinful canyon
to eat
supple path
if you wanna go pro, this isnt the game lol
tardy hare
tardy hare
Minpojke?
junior plover
Does riot know?
tardy hare
My #1 player!?
junior plover
Yep
You can boost for wow token but don't you dare take our profits from us
Well I guess pilots are also banned for token
Which is fair
supple path
You can boost for wow token but don't you dare take our profits from us
the way it should be
junior plover
Fuck pilots but I couldn't care less about selfplay boosts
You can already be athene
And get boosted by your friends
Why is money different
teal hinge
Athene is doodoo
junior plover
Oh my friend is a r1 glad - i can get a glad mount, yay
Oh my friend is my boss and he pays me 10000k$ a year, i can get a glad mount
Oh wait
edgy shale
"10000k$"
supple path
Why is money different
that's how the real world works my man
edgy shale
junior plover
that's how the real world works my man
That's not an argument
Why is it like this?
supple path
its reality
supple path
no it goes way beyond video games lol
junior plover
Wdym
junior plover
You're a monkey brain
In real life no one will arrest me for paying a top tier soccer team for putting me on their roster
Given enough money I could do so
I don't care to buy a boost because it's not fun for me to get carried
But it's no different from having a friend that can carry you for free
junior plover
Why is $ wrong
junior plover
Oh ye i know why blizz does it
Obviously
But no one should lick their boots for it
stray sigil
i mean go read tos prob in there somewhere
supple path
lol they should be happy, its blizz stopping it before the IRS gets on that ass
haughty compass
Not everyone is good at the game. Me included. I’m playing my alt at 1600 with 31k hp and I Q into some ret with 40k and we die insta
edgy shale
thats besides his point lol
haughty compass
5/7 games
edgy shale
the irs tf lmao
supple path
if you dont think that IRS wants their cut you are crazy
edgy shale
junior plover
I'm pretty sure they pay taxes on it bro
The smart ones do
It's a perfectly legal business
teal hinge
If you actually believe they pay taxes you are naive
junior plover
Am I?
supple path
yeah i gotta block this guy lol
junior plover
People I worked with in 2013
Paid taxes on it
Why the fuck would they risk legal trouble
Just casually cashing out 10k$ a month to my bank account
Nothing to see here
I'm sure IRS won't notice
??????
edgy shale
block this guy
teal hinge
Lmao this guy
junior plover
If u do it small scale
edgy shale
just recent u had to start paying tax on RP
junior plover
I doubt most people pay taxes on it
We're talking about the big guys here
That kind of income won't fly unclaimed
Unless they put it all in crypto or some shit
Kek
Depends on where you're from too I'm sure
If i don't claim income where I'm from they just make you pay it + annual fee for each year u didn't claim it
No criminal charges
Who's willing to go to jail over 30% of their income when they make 15k
clear pulsar
Ok so now I see why you don't think anything is wrong and everyone can be explained
No one should get banned, where I live we can do EVERYTHING
junior plover
Idk what the taxes are i just put 30% ez
junior plover
No one should get banned, where I live we can do EVERYTHING
Yes except
Say bad stuff about religion
Because hurting religious feelings
Is a criminal offense
clear pulsar
He does real life boost rmt yeah
junior plover
Polish
junior plover
I'm his puppet
I was brought here to moderate the channel when he's gone
So his channel stays nice and clean
clear pulsar
I need some gold bro holy shit
@junior plover make eu acct give me gold for 18hundo
I mean na acct
junior plover
Wat
junior plover
Buy token
Bro I'm polish
I could feed 10 families
With that money
Wdym buy a token
tulip falcon
just move to uk and deliver pizzas like every other polish guy
tulip falcon
every pizza i've had delivered has probably been a polish guy
junior plover
In Poland it's all folks from ukraine
Doing uber eats
They don't speak polish or english
Need a polxit
tulip falcon
ye you're right there's some syrian ones too actually
brexit means brexit bring back good BRITISH pizza delivery men!!
tulip falcon
lmao
junior plover
tulip falcon
"they took our jobs that no one wants!!"
clear pulsar
Idk bro I have no sympathy for jah
junior plover
I don't care but I hope they do something about the rmt situation
tulip falcon
i dont think many people do
junior plover
It just hurts the scene
tulip falcon
lmao
junior plover
Hmmm
tulip falcon
rip
junior plover
Yep
junior plover
tulip falcon
idk what they can really do about rmt though
i think a lot of the top players would quit the game
if they clamped down on rmt somehow
tulip falcon
as of bfa i noticed a massive fucking increase in boosting and rmt
junior plover
Idk i don't even care that much for boosting being allowed
Just
Either ban it or don't
RMT is a dumb reason
It doesn't affect the playerbase since legion
tulip falcon
idk i think the ease of boosting is the problem
junior plover
Ban boosting, give in game spectating for arenas
tulip falcon
we did it for a month and had 40 mil in the guild bank
clear pulsar
It's just so normalized, I think it started from the game having this huge free gold feed from mission tables in wod and legion
And then people had tons of leftover gold and started doing it
tulip falcon
yeah i remember when people used to be shamed/targeted/called out for boosting etc but now its like no one even cares
junior plover
Yep
junior plover
Yeah artism is banned
tulip falcon
it didn't like you talking about artisan coffee
teal hinge
He can't help it
tulip falcon
well coaching is literally just a renaming of boosting
junior plover
Fuck boosting
tulip falcon
lol
junior plover
Yee
tulip falcon
i think thats when the attitudes changed
junior plover
We should disconnect it
That's why I'm saying stuff like
4th member of your group set to spectate
tulip falcon
ah yea its not boosting dude its coaching you know im just playing with 2 player who have 6x my exp
yea
junior plover
ah yea its not boosting dude its *coaching* you know im just playing with 2 play...
<- him after said boost I'm sure
Yeah i don't think calling mid game is the idea
tulip falcon
backseat gaming just stresses me out
junior plover
It's just more interactive than vod review
clear pulsar
Yeah that type of thing doesn't get people immediate rating
junior plover
You can explain after the game
tulip falcon
i think
tulip falcon
sending vods and having someone talk about what you could've done etc is probably useful
junior plover
clear pulsar
Yeah glyph's definitely an artist
junior plover
Yeah glyph's definitely an artist
Don't be a hypocrite and use slurs now 
I will end you
junior plover
Imagine if
Blizzard added arena flag skins to the shop
With funding towards awc
How nice would that be
junior plover
Wtf did they do
edgy shale
something similar to wat ur saying except they basically just kept the profilts instead of putting the money back
in wod i think it was
junior plover
In a tweet earlier this week, Nguyen explained that Blizzard made approximately $2.6M in sales for the crowdfunding toy, but only increased the AWC prize pool by $50K.
Wow
Ehhh
Imagine a $2.6M pool to share for a year or 2
We were on the verge of greatness
junior plover
That was late BFA
tulip falcon
obama gang
junior plover
They said they'd contribute 250k to AWC and 25% from the toy
Or 12.5
But 12.5 of the toy was over 250k so they were like
tulip falcon
minorities are perfect humans
junior plover
Minors?
tulip falcon
miners
junior plover
That's a WeirdChamp from me
tulip falcon
edgy shale
I'm holding my judgment until the mies tells me what to think
junior plover
Just read this
FeelsBadMan
I mean seriously anyone defending the ToS is a bootlicker at this point
The only reason why these players were banned is because they weren't giving Blizzard a big enough share of the profit
tulip falcon
of course
junior plover
Blizzard wants them to live in poverty
Rather than make a living
Which you know, they're a company
clear pulsar
I mean
clear pulsar
Blizzard a private company wants to profit off their games but not let others profit off theri games
edgy shale
they could just ask them for x% of their RMT earnings instead of just stomping on their faces. obv that's more complex a solution than they care to carry out, but its not like there's 0 options
junior plover
they could just ask them for x% of their RMT earnings instead of just stomping o...
Legally troubling
They really can't
haughty compass
If you don’t think it fucks with the health of the game I don’t know what to tell you. Not everyone is rank 1
edgy shale
do it under the table
junior plover
But it's not like Blizz is missing out on a shit tone of money
Because of them boosting
If they don't RMT boost they won't gold boost
haughty compass
Derrrr just kill the boosted player.
haughty compass
Stupid
edgy shale
u think RMT boosting matters when gold boosting still exists?
junior plover
That is exactly my point
If blizz wants to make boosting against tos
Be my guest
But banning people for trying to make a living and not sharing with you
Ima slap you
Yeah but its almost impossible to liquidate that much gold
Ah I get u
Meh I sound like I'm from twitter ranting about redistributing the wealth
Just let me watch some good pro arenas thanks
edgy shale
the word fortnight is ruined cuz i straight up thought u were talking about the game for a sec
and i was so fuckign confused
junior plover
i like that word
We like fortnight we like fortnight
edgy shale
exactly
junior plover
Not wrong
clear pulsar
20 new russians aka 20 new accts he has on a VPN from russian IP
junior plover
junior plover
Man I should get good at wow
hwid ban
Just do 2 boosts
Buy a new pc
???? Profit
U know what will happen once they ban everyone from AWC?
No one will buy tokens to buy boosts anymore
Because pvp will be fucking dead
Genius moves
Just gotta make sure to report a bigger profit this quarter
4 quarters down the line is nobody's business
junior plover
Tbh awc has a viewerbase comparable to like Valorant
It's really not bad
Given some attention it could be big
clear pulsar
Yeah MDI is like watching a marathon
No one sits there and watches that shit like, there's only a public cuz that type of thing is maybe once a year, or every 4 years
junior plover
AWC is an unicorn, if you aren't 2k rated in arena u don't know what's going on
No advertisement
No money in the scene
clear pulsar
But that's cuz the desk does a terrible fucking job
junior plover
And yet it's popular
clear pulsar
At explaining game concepts
junior plover
Yeah
clear pulsar
Like there is never any breakdown of crowd control setups, DR rotations, cd trades, positioning baiting idk
junior plover
I am fully aware that I don't know exactly what's going on
clear pulsar
Nothing at all
clear pulsar
Ziqo sometimes says one thing or another but it's always some shallow
junior plover
They don't understand the mapstate
clear pulsar
Yeah it's like league/dota in that sense
junior plover
But they know getting a dragon is good
clear pulsar
As opposed to CSGO or COD
junior plover
clear pulsar
Where you see big flick fast shots you go OOOOOO
junior plover
Yeah shooters have it easy
That's why I'm saying
AWC is a fucking unicorn it's incredible that it has a viewerbase of this size
But Blizz is horribly mismanaged and won't even capitalize
clear pulsar
But also the more established esports with proper scenes around them have much better analysis from panel etc
clear pulsar
And just like you're saying in wow, in CS if you know what to look for and how the round plays out, you can see so much more shit
junior plover
Or whatever that pasta was
clear pulsar
Which CSGO does have analysts that do it
junior plover
League has incredible casting staff tbh
Especially LEC
LEC is like
One of the best managed sport leagues in the world in terms of content
Imo
clear pulsar
Sjokz is a pogchamp
junior plover
They should hire sjokz for awc
clear pulsar
And she's like, good at her job too
junior plover
clear pulsar
They brought Sjokz to some CSGO events in 2019 and 2020
junior plover
Idk csgo casters actually
Say a bunch of dumb shit
About the gamestate all the time
But they're good at hype
clear pulsar
Kiosk you dont even know how to play CS
clear pulsar
After game etc
junior plover
I was slapping
junior plover
Ah gotcha
clear pulsar
Banned
clear pulsar
Like yeah the casters are just hypemen
clear pulsar
Most of them arent any good at the game
junior plover
And a hypeman
It works really well u can enjoy the game even if u don't understand
clear pulsar
But spunj, pimp, yanko, seangares
Not like anders and those people, they just hype and shout
clear pulsar
Yeah dota has tremendous talent too
junior plover
I'm just saying dota/league is a better example of what wow needs
Mid game explanations
Of the gamestate
But the game is too fast for that right now
clear pulsar
And it's because those games have former pros with actual knowledge that translated well into panel roles after retiring
True facts
junior plover
Yep
junior plover
That's why PoE doesn't permit gifting to viewers
clear pulsar
But then you have stuff like
Mes doing viewer rbgs
He got like 300 subs last night
junior plover
Honestly
clear pulsar
And you know, I don't think he has 'sub only' shit or anything but
junior plover
They should just openly talk about it on stream
clear pulsar
He is getting that money 100% because he plays with viewers
junior plover
What for
clear pulsar
junior plover
Gift me 100 subs so i consider you my friend
That's why I'm saying there's no fucking difference between a friend boosting a friend, a streamer boosting a viewer, or paying for a boost
It's all the same shit
junior plover
How can you prove I didn't become friends with pikaboo after i donated 1k to him
clear pulsar
Ofc
junior plover
You can't
pallid coral
@vestal citrus same shit with UIs for subs
that shit is sketchy and shouldn't be allowed
clear pulsar
Thing is it's hard to have consistent ruling on that because boosting isn't inherently harmful in pve as it is in pvp
junior plover
Idk i think you can sell game files for money
clear pulsar
So how do you manage rules for both game aspects
junior plover
Would be hard to make that bannable
junior plover
Ye sorry
Ah actually yea thinking back
To the mythic dung tools
Drama
Earlier this season
That was not allowed technically
So other addon settings shouldn't be either
clear pulsar
They can reasonably say they arent doing it for subs tho because they do occasionally play with nonsubs right?
clear pulsar
junior plover
But it's all about being ambiguous
clear pulsar
But if you're doing it on stream on the premise that it grows your viewership
You are advertising for the game itself
Game has more viewers on twitch = more people see it = more people get interested
junior plover
I shit you not Path of Exile has a stance on RMT so strict
clear pulsar
It's not within blizzard's interests to kill off wow streaming