pvp

[clear pulsar]

Best partner for getting convokes is spriest swear to god

Spr just dumps all dots on kt then silence / stun / mc

And you go to town

[loud wedge]

What is ms?

Aah

Yeah i thought so, but had to ask since you brought in skyfury

I play with Hunter or rogue.. Feel like my only win condition is a random convoke

And disc healer

Just gonna swap

Fuck that rng shit

[tardy hare]

Ms is multiple sclerosis

Most people in LFG seem to have it

[edgy shale]

I got hit by like a 15k envenom todayt speaking of assassin

how go od is it compared to sub

[wooden dust]

hello 😄 what's meta legendary for feral pvp atm?

[jaunty quiver]

fearful symmetry

[wooden dust]

ok cool that confirms it, thank you ❤️

[weak hinge]

NOW

(:

[wooden dust]

ahaha ah the ever evolving meta

[junior plover]

Go through it

[primal bane]

50% dr too big

[edgy shale]

it has been done.

[junior plover]

Its not 50% dr

its 100% dr

up to 50% of their max life

effectively a 50% absorb shield

definitely can be done

[loud wedge]

Depends if they play that pvp talent no?

Ah no, that heals the monk for 100% of the dmg

[junior plover]

Yeah but they dont take that

ever i'm pretty sure

[loud wedge]

You wouldnt Vs double convoke boomer

[tulip falcon]

even then you still damage through it just as fast as you would anyway with normal karma

[junior plover]

its not a pvp talent its a talent

youd have to drop ring of peace

it might be worthwhile

in some matchups

turns out its about 10% usage

[clear pulsar]

Karma is barely a defensive

Kill thru it everytime

[tardy hare]

Yes

[primal bane]

isnt there a high chance to kill your teammate if you burst through that

aite

[tardy hare]

Press dispell

++

[marsh pollen]

Is there any comp that has been close to as consistently strong as RMP throughout expacs?

[junior plover]

Just kill the monk faster

karma is a dot

convoke is not

[primal bane]

is it bad to keep getting haste if im already like full mastery/vers ?

[forest kite]

Hey guys can u say me what conduits and what tree I’m using in pvp ? I actuall have all conduits on 200 except conflux (171) would u use burrs or poison?

[snow jacinth]

Same question here

[sterile anvil]

can you import buff specials for plater specific for arena cooldowns to see when people burst/use defs?

[foggy ravine]

ez play with a pally to bop karma

[tropic panther]

Getting my friend 1600 and we queue into pikaboo at 1550 mmr...

Game right after that a 43k hp dk that's 2656 in 3s lol

[clear pulsar]

Yall would probably get replies if you mentioned what spec you play @snow jacinth @forest kite

Also read the pins

[snow jacinth]

Boomie

I saw the guides but they talk about kyrian. I'm Night Fae

[loud wedge]

Swap

[snow jacinth]

Haha, I cant. Need Night Fae for raid

[clear pulsar]

Mate I said read the pins

Now go read the rest for the conduits

[snow jacinth]

👍

[forest kite]

@clear pulsar I know what I play the question was when far lower conflux compared to stars ? Should I stick to 171 flux to 200 stars?

I am playing balance

[clear pulsar]

Yeah, the potencies are all pretty mediocre

Conflux is the only one that like, has any impact for real

At 171 it's what, 18% more damage?

[forest kite]

Yeah should be

[clear pulsar]

Yeah Conflux is better than any other potency at any ilvl rn

[forest kite]

Was really unlucky

2 IDs nothing

[clear pulsar]

Tell me about it, took 8 weeks to get the world boss to drop 200 for my alt

[forest kite]

And calling nothing

[clear pulsar]

Do you kill world boss every week?

Make sure you're doing that

Then idk just pray

[forest kite]

Doing the venari stuff every 2 days

World Boss every week

But my Druid is 10 days old

But I got to 219 ilv yet with pvp

Peaked to 2100 but now I need to get back to that rating to upgrade all to upgrade to 226

[tiny oar]

@clear pulsar

[junior plover]

Necro Kitty Necro Warrior will be unstoppable in 9.0.5

u can quote me on that

kitty cleave will finally take it's righteous place

[tiny oar]

ripper shit

[foggy ravine]

I saw a video of a necro boomy and affliction lock

so meme

but the dude was talent specced into root damage and were lowkey melting dudes

[tiny oar]

yea

i wanna play mass roots deep roots LSD

n make everyone miserable

even myself

[lime light]

Dont

I know where u live

[clear pulsar]

Mass roots, deep roots, dreamweaver @tiny oar

[foggy ravine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFMBZdAJ4b0

lol ya

shit looks absolutely aids to play against

[tiny oar]

i can feel the melee cleave rage already lol

is this guy starfalling on cd in 3v3 arena lol

[clear pulsar]

Idk looks like starsurges

I don't think AS affects Starfall

[tiny oar]

this gameplay looks

so disgusting

n its exactly what id do in LSD lol

[foggy ravine]

lol

[junior plover]

Non BT bites

mage mad

[tiny oar]

i got hit for a 15k execute crit through bark 2day fun times

[clear pulsar]

17k MS crit that procd mortal combo for another 9k MS

[desert sable]

I'm getting into rated PvP a little more this expansion than in the past and wondering about gearing for boomkin. is Vers better than everything else in PvP? I see a lot of groups asking what my vers is or having vers minimums. Does it make sense to wear lover ilvl gear with vers if its not too big of a downgrade? Like a 200 pvp helm with vers/mast vs. a 220 haste/mast for example?

[tulip falcon]

no wear the 220, you'll get more defensive benefits from the stam than a 200 piece with versa and obviously other benefits from extra main/secondary stats

[clear pulsar]

LFg has a super unhealthy obsession with versa

[tulip falcon]

yea versa isn't as important as lfg makes it seem

[clear pulsar]

Versa is a great stat for pvp because of the defensive like Krassz said, but at some point like, hp simply is better

[tulip falcon]

you could drop some ilvl for versa but 20 ilvl is definitely not worth

[clear pulsar]

38k hp with 15% vers is about just as tanky as 35k hp with 30% vers, and you have a bit more armor, more primary stat, and you have less vers but then you have more of other secondaries too which all contribute to damage in some way

[desert sable]

ok thanks, thats kind of what i figured but just wanted to be sure it wasnt like a resilience type situation like the old days

[clear pulsar]

My personal rule of thumb is like, never drop weapon ilvl, drop 3-4 for big armor slots, 7-8 for small ones, and then dropping ilvl for the conquest rings and neck always simply cuz they have so much vers

It's just feelycrafting but

Yeah I would never drop 20 ilvls on a piece with int

[junior plover]

Just got trained by a 2950 booster monk 😠

[bitter harness]

F

[fast vale]

Mate playing enhancement - what’s best bet to play with him in twos? Balance? Resto?

[heady geode]

Id say let him play with a retri xD sickest 2s comp atm -_-

[tiny oar]

pure degen splay shit what have i become @clear pulsar

[lime light]

Friendly reminder u were a mld player

Last ssn

So nothing changed

DINGUSTING APERONERS DEGANO

[tiny oar]

[rustic arch]

boots or legs for balance of all thigns legendary?

[lime light]

@tiny oar i love u tho

even if u degan mld player

😳

[tiny oar]

i didnt mld last ssn rly

only splay

slightly better 🙂

[lime light]

go ahead, confess

all the disgusting comps u played

[tiny oar]

i playing scatter now

its like jungle kinda???

[lime light]

not sure

never played it, and last time i faced it, that was s1 bfa

with survi

[stray sigil]

@edgy shale okok how does it feel

give it to me straight

[earnest turret]

What's the best embrace for zandalari boomkin in arena btw?

didn't see in pins

[lime light]

honestly

all of them are ghetto

play move speed or crit

iam playing crit myself, as feral

[somber hazel]

would boomy or feral be easier to push 1800 2s with a hpally

[stray sigil]

if tian says one thing

u do opposite

[tiny oar]

[last ridge]

anyone know what soulbind is "best" for resto druid? Night fae

primarily playing 2s and occasional 3s

[somber hazel]

https://www.pvpleaderboard.com/

look at that and filter by 2v2

[earnest turret]

Kekw alright, thanks 😄

[junior plover]

Feral is better in 2s

But

just play your preferred spec

your comfort will matter far more than the comps viability

[forest kite]

^ This so much. Your lack of knowledge about feral (if you main balance) might be pulling you down rather than help. I learned that the hard way

[earnest turret]

Wait, minpojke plays necro boomkin? O_o surely that's just for pve

also solstice over fury? D:

[junior plover]

necro boomkin is unplayable in pve

[earnest turret]

pve as in dailys n shit

[junior plover]

ah u mean

hes resto

logged out as balance

[clear pulsar]

They're all pretty decent. Niya's Grove Invigoration isn't big dam for resto like it is for the dps specs, so there's no real clear cut best soulbind.

[earnest turret]

yy thought so, he always been resto

[junior plover]

yeah probably

[clear pulsar]

BRo I swear to god

[earnest turret]

i want necro boomkin to be good in pvp 😂

[clear pulsar]

Every 2 days someone comes in here asking this shit

About necro boomie, or boomie with verdant infusion

Cuz of one dude who logged off after doing torghast or something

[earnest turret]

haha true

[junior plover]

[clear pulsar]

And they all go 'I see a lot of boomies with verdant infusion' then fail to show where this 'a lot' was seen

[junior plover]

we got a NF in 3k

bois

EU anyway

everyone knows NA doesnt matter

[primal bane]

really like his videos

[earnest turret]

tbh i mainly just hope they gonna buff necro more so it becomes viable for boomies in arenas, don't wanna be kyrian

[clear pulsar]

Formy is goated

[junior plover]

Snupy is nice, super informative

[clear pulsar]

Best NF feral in the game

[primal bane]

however watching him win 90% of his games with a convoke set up made me think thats a huge wincon for feral for a while

[clear pulsar]

I think viable is a shit term. It is plenty viable. Boomie is a strong base spec, and necro is an underwhelming spell but it does something

[junior plover]

Well it is for NF feral

[stray sigil]

who does snupy play with

[clear pulsar]

This rank 1 boomie plays necro on his alt with like, deep roots and the root dot pvp talent.

[junior plover]

He used to play with fluffy

[primal bane]

whats the wincon for kyrian?

[stray sigil]

never been like super high on him

[clear pulsar]

And the vids are hilarious

[junior plover]

but he swapped

[earnest turret]

what i mean it's a lot better to play either kyrian or NF than necro

[junior plover]

lemme check

[stray sigil]

seems interesting hes 3k now

[primal bane]

since i heard kyrian is top pick for feral too in pvp now

[junior plover]

yeah he was hovering around 2.7k playing survi jungle with fluffy

swapped to

[clear pulsar]

Fuji is a hater

[junior plover]

holy mm jungle

[clear pulsar]

Just looking to call him boosted

If he played with some big name hunter

[junior plover]

with Bicmex and Zenlyn

apparently

[stray sigil]

🙂

[clear pulsar]

Fuji is literally always just looking to be salty about other people

Swear to god bro

[stray sigil]

not gonna say anything

[junior plover]

[primal bane]

savant is hating

[earnest turret]

how's feral in arena atm? compared to bomie

[stray sigil]

worse

[junior plover]

bit worse in 3s

better in 2s

[earnest turret]

since rerolling druid this xpac, been drooling at feral as well tbh

[junior plover]

boomie in 3s kinda died out

[primal bane]

bit sounds biased

[junior plover]

in AWC too

No i dont think its biased

given how much jungle is played

at 3k+

[stray sigil]

its not played much tbh

[primal bane]

yeah im a bit below that and didnt see it much so far

so ur probs right

[stray sigil]

in na every jungle stopped qing

[junior plover]

yeah more so an EU thing

[stray sigil]

ig beans qd

[junior plover]

but theres more 3k ferals

than 3k boomies

in both NA and EU

[stray sigil]

but like fox axtin havent qd junglw in a bit

[primal bane]

huge props to hunters for not giving up on pvp this patch

i know i wouldve

[clear pulsar]

I would too if I were you

[earnest turret]

hunter's quite fun tho

[junior plover]

15 ferals vs 8 boomies

3k+

[primal bane]

do you just feel an urge to be dumb face

[junior plover]

[primal bane]

needed a comma there

[hushed bluff]

I faced jungle 3 times in a row last night. Wtf. We were feral destro Disc

[primal bane]

ehhh

i want BM hunter S tier class

thats the true hunter spec

[stray sigil]

im talking high cr 3s

[junior plover]

BM hunter aint bad in 2s right now

[stray sigil]

im sure jungle is popular low cr

[junior plover]

I mean

[primal bane]

yeah but its for sure worst spec right now

[stray sigil]

but hunter is bad the higher u are

[primal bane]

jungle is very much NOT popular low cr

[junior plover]

Feral (so jungle) has more representation than all the boomie specs it seems at 3k+

[primal bane]

dk cleave comps are the most popular thing in low cr

then its RMP

then shadowplay

[junior plover]

obv jungle wont be up there with melee cleave and god comp and stuff

[stray sigil]

ferals not exclusive to jungle

[junior plover]

I think all the 3k+ are jungle

[stray sigil]

fmp is played

[junior plover]

i could be wrong tho

[stray sigil]

lucy is a fmp feral

[clear pulsar]

Zev is FLPala

[junior plover]

fair enough

[clear pulsar]

Formy is fmp

[junior plover]

i stand corrected

[hushed bluff]

Kitty cleave!!!

[stray sigil]

krel is fmp

calder aswell

[muted edge]

Whats a caster to learn to pvp better on? Druid priest or warlock

[clear pulsar]

THe one you like best

[primal bane]

warlock will teach a strong lesson of positioning but theyre all pretty ok

[stray sigil]

no meme theres 2 jungle qing now

[primal bane]

go druid

[stray sigil]

bean and me i think

[clear pulsar]

You're capping

Also

[stray sigil]

fox plays it sporadically

[clear pulsar]

You're not queueing

????

[stray sigil]

ya i an

qd 3k mmr last night

[muted edge]

Personally they're all cool but maybe my gear is just bad but I feel super squishy as boomkin

[clear pulsar]

No no no bro

We dont call that queueing

[stray sigil]

we did get turbod but

[clear pulsar]

We call that FARMING

BT CURIO GOD

[junior plover]

[heady geode]

Is kyrian miles ahead of nightfae in arena for boomkins?

[junior plover]

Highest rated bt curio player in the world

incredible

[stray sigil]

prob an

am

[junior plover]

not really

both have been played even at AWC

if you check the NA leaderboards

[clear pulsar]

Chan LOVES his night fae lmao

[junior plover]

NF is super popular there

for w/e reason

EU is kyrian bois

[stray sigil]

chan is a fucking giggler

[heady geode]

Hmmm, i thought NF lost value due to predictability and how easy convoke is to counter :S

[lime light]

cuz muricans are donki kongs

they press nf

and something dies

[junior plover]

TRUTH

[stray sigil]

hes oce

[clear pulsar]

Do we need to see bean chanimal queues???

[lime light]

Truth

#tiantonAlwaysRight

[stray sigil]

u ruski ape

[clear pulsar]

ULTIMATE giggling queues

[junior plover]

Technically yes

[lime light]

#FejiCantHoldmeBack

[junior plover]

thats why kyrian is technically prefered

[clear pulsar]

NF gains value with your ability to use your CC properly

[stray sigil]

bean played with yoske ladt night

[junior plover]

but there's lots of reasons why convoke is good

[stray sigil]

pretty much chan

[junior plover]

the iminent permanent threat is one of them

[stray sigil]

i cant tell the diff between the two when they speak

[junior plover]

the fact that you can always trade it for multiple trinkets

[stray sigil]

its wild

[junior plover]

is really powerful as well

[stray sigil]

@lime light

[junior plover]

convoke doesn't end up killing in high cr all that often but you still get lots of value from running it

[lime light]

||i made the biggest shit in my life, legit lost like 3 kg||

[deft tapir]

Even at cr like 1.8 I can’t remember the last time I’ve seen it kill someone

[junior plover]

[stray sigil]

nice nice

valuable info tian

[lime light]

[clear pulsar]

That's entirely on you tho

ALL on you

[hushed bluff]

I’m with you right now tian. My wife is yelling at me to get out lol

[lime light]

should i log and play properly

[deft tapir]

I’m talking killing my team, I’m kyrian lol

[lime light]

and troll as usual

cant tell

[stray sigil]

tian is washed up

[clear pulsar]

Lies

[stray sigil]

pretend hes trolling now

[clear pulsar]

Tian doesnt wash

[stray sigil]

cuz hes bad

[clear pulsar]

[stray sigil]

facts

eu dont shower

[lime light]

actually soo good player, but too old to play properly

[junior plover]

facts

source:

[lime light]

thats the truth

[junior plover]

am eu

[clear pulsar]

Thanks for providing insight kiosk

[stray sigil]

tian could be my grandpa

[junior plover]

I got u bro

[lime light]

u kids will know one day

[junior plover]

any time

[lime light]

when u wake up 2 min before your alarm

every day

to show them

who is the king

[junior plover]

[stray sigil]

imagine waking up

[lime light]

do u think alarm has any control ??

no iam in control

iam waking up

the alarm

[stray sigil]

[lime light]

it makes me real alpha

[junior plover]

I used to do that in highschool

[stray sigil]

tian is on some good kush at all times

[junior plover]

its a powerful tool

[stray sigil]

either that

or hes doing crack cocaine

[junior plover]

now my alarm clock is my google home and i can tell it to shut the fuck up

who's the alpha?

[stray sigil]

eu ppl so weird

[lime light]

iam trying so hard to not hit duelist

so i dont have to farm

bgs

but its getting harder

every time i q

[junior plover]

just dont farm bgs

farm duelist mmr

for that sweet honor

[lime light]

50 honor per win

[junior plover]

[lime light]

or something

[junior plover]

2 minutes per game

[stray sigil]

huge gains

[junior plover]

HUGE

[lime light]

i mean its 20 sec per game vs ret

my hunter after dying

[junior plover]

[lime light]

"oh they had warbreaker and wings up

my bad

[stray sigil]

[lime light]

i dont member when i died last time

legit impossible as feral

to die

[junior plover]

this is the trurth

[clear pulsar]

Yeah some dude was in here the other day saying feral's squishy like

My guy have we been playing the same spec?

I am literally unkillable

[junior plover]

"if you catch feral out of bear theyre squishy"

[stray sigil]

i do die

[lime light]

i mean if u tank turbo or ret arms

[stray sigil]

cuz am an ape

[lime light]

for ages

ofc u gonna die

[stray sigil]

and dont press cds

[junior plover]

u can never die in 2s

in 3s maybe

[lime light]

last time i played 2s

where like 3 months ago

[junior plover]

imagine not playing the superior queue

[lime light]

only playing enh boomkin for gear

iam sure getting anus penetrated by venthyr warrior

isnt the most fun thing

[junior plover]

yeah but thats only 22% of the games

and i dont get anus penetrated by the warrior

my healer does

[clear pulsar]

Ven's girl definitely did his hair today

I imagine Supa's girl did his too

[lime light]

NA today

wait

who is method na

[clear pulsar]

It's Prev Drake Ceralium Brain

They're on lower bracket tho this week

Zev gonna play too

Should be 2nd series

[lime light]

but he plays

flp

useless

[clear pulsar]

Gorecki lost to floormat and roastyz unforch

Trust the Process is a legendary team btw

[lime light]

do u think eiya is attractive

[tardy hare]

Yes

But not as attractive as dreamweaver

[clear pulsar]

She cute but stop simping pls tian

[lime light]

i hate bull piercing

😠

[clear pulsar]

You're the only one allowed to be cattle

True facts

[lime light]

😠

how do u lose

as mage hpal

[clear pulsar]

Damn the underdog mage hpal comp won

Crazy stuff

Poor things get nerfed every week

[junior plover]

Why no kitties in AWC

nerf turbo

thanks

imagine if jungle teams ever played any other comp

we'd be unstoppable

[round jetty]

Any guardian druid RBG star around ? I have a couple questions 🙂

[slim robin]

Same !

[tardy hare]

Throw out the questions

[slim robin]

Mostly how to spin against single rogue, first time around I trinket blind, they eventually cloak+vanish and I go back into stealth ASAP but if I can't stealth again and they sap me, anything I can do to not let the rogue get a free cap?

[tardy hare]

Stand away from flag

I usually just walk to flag and press barkskin

[round jetty]

• What is the best trinket in base defense situation ?

[slim robin]

Then the rogue is capping, I spin, we fight, they cloak/vanish

[tardy hare]

Stand away from flag press moonfire

[round jetty]

anyone playing relentless ?

[tardy hare]

Normal trinket

[tardy hare]

Never

[slim robin]

the fact i didnt even consider that.........

[round jetty]

Ok so relentless and adaptation are never good in any situation?

[round jetty]

Thanks

[tardy hare]

Yes

[foggy ravine]

if normal trinket on cd I swap to relentless + device tbh

[round jetty]

Affinity resto is BIS for ursol right ?

[tardy hare]

Normal trinket necessary

[slim robin]

yeah I really need legacy, Im a poor fucker that likes to play all specs

[foggy ravine]

but also I just tell some other monkey on my team to sit instead

[slim robin]

Thanks for replies

[tardy hare]

Idk these days i never really trinker anything anymore tbh

Press barkskin

[round jetty]

Carefull for smoke though

[tardy hare]

Rogue cant cap

Walk away again

[foggy ravine]

I also play boomy doe so no barksin brambles

[tardy hare]

Barkskin back off cd

[foggy ravine]

but druid is ez base defender

[tardy hare]

Smh

[slim robin]

yh the situ I described above was cause they smoked and I had to jump them to stop the cap, then got fucked with the sap

[foggy ravine]

boomy with treants and foe gg

[tardy hare]

Just walk to them in stealth

Press barkskin

[foggy ravine]

you dont have to go into smoke bomb

smoke bomb is 5s

cap is 6s

spam moonfire gg

[tardy hare]

Thats 300iq

I just walk to them press barkskin

Start spinning around

[foggy ravine]

lol

I share your guardian druid base sitting guide

[round jetty]

Alright @tardy hare as you are there

• what soulbind are you using ?
• What def conduits
• When are you pressing convoke usually ?
  (all in RBG situation as guardian ofc)

[foggy ravine]

one of the lads watched a soliod 5 minutes of it before skipping ahead

[round jetty]

lol srsly ? bomb is 5 sec I always run like a fucker :/

[tardy hare]

Niya
Regrowth+FR increase, barksin, well honed instincts
Press convoke whenever not gonna do much anyway

[round jetty]

gr8 to know

[tardy hare]

[slim robin]

pls share

[tardy hare]

https://youtu.be/QHzSgeC29cA

Have fun

[round jetty]

lol that's great thanks

[foggy ravine]

only time you have to run in is if they are double capping you

and hold smokebomb for a second

[round jetty]

lol I thought it was a guide of guardian rbg lol -_-

[tardy hare]

Aye barkskin + sleeper legendary is looong

[tardy hare]

It is :)

My average game

[foggy ravine]

cuz people know better than to try and cap on a guardian druid

[round jetty]

I might be duumb as shit but what is the relation between barkskin and the sleeper leg ?

[foggy ravine]

although I sleep guardian druids every once and awhile and laugh

barksin + brambles

spins while cc'd

sleeper for outside of barksin 30s immune

[tardy hare]

Depends whats happening tbh

[muted edge]

Think ill gear my druid. Should I switch from zanda back tauren?

[tardy hare]

I usually barkskin first cause its hella short cd

Barkskin sleeper barkskin

[slim robin]

Lmaooo thank god they said someone skipped ahead

[tardy hare]

If theyre not dead or gone yet

[slim robin]

so I didnt sit through 11mn of that

[junior plover]

damn that was insane how did you defend that cap for so long

[foggy ravine]

lololol

[tardy hare]

[slim robin]

Literally my 2hrs of rbg earlier

except that one time a rogue fucked me over

[lime light]

good name for the guardian lego

sleeper

[junior plover]

truth

[tardy hare]

truth

[tiny oar]

Formrage got sinister glad r1 as a fucking worgen so play whatever race u want tbh

[foggy ravine]

druids are hard to cap on

FAX

no printer

[muted edge]

Lol

[round jetty]

Ok barkskin is anticapping via the brambles talents

[tardy hare]

ye

[foggy ravine]

is there anything brambles doesn't work through

clone?

[tardy hare]

dunno

dont really get cloned much

[round jetty]

I have acces to

• Ursine Vigor
• Layered Mane (ironfur shit
• Well Horned instincts
  As stamina conduits, which are the two best ones ?

[foggy ravine]

well honed is bis

[tardy hare]

well honed hella mandatory

[junior plover]

Well honed is literally the best conduit in the game

[round jetty]

Also I run :

• brambles
• renewal
• Resto aff
• Mighty bash
• Incarn
• Surv. of the fittest
• Rend & tear

[junior plover]

for any spec

[foggy ravine]

I feel invincible with well honed

[tardy hare]

other ones kinda idk

[round jetty]

does it make sense those talents ?

[junior plover]

its so absurdly good

Maybe the rogue restealth one is comparable

[foggy ravine]

innate resolve + well honed is like auto 40% heal

[radiant moon]

How about walk up - incap (also puts you in bear) - save barkskin for when the rogue then cc's you?

[foggy ravine]

insane

[tardy hare]

wyh tf these people odnt want a carry

smh

[junior plover]

[tardy hare]

possible

but what if there's 2

and you dont know about 2nd

it's whatever really

they';re not gonna cap you for 1 minute atleasy anyway

[foggy ravine]

1min is more than enough time for you to panic scream in voice

and to let one of the zugs get to you

[tardy hare]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXUmQLmwdy4

this is why i love

low mmr rbgs

xd

[muted edge]

Can you play competitive as guardian druid too?

[tardy hare]

what do you consider competetive

[echo orbit]

Has the WoW head balance PvP been taken down?

[muted edge]

Like bgs

More so do they have a place in rbgs or should I stick to balance

[echo orbit]

Can’t find any useful info online to do with setup, talents, builds etc

[tardy hare]

guardian basicly = to boomy

[muted edge]

Ok

[tulip falcon]

guardian is pretty much the only tank people run

some dh but not many

[tardy hare]

no its not

[junior plover]

Guys this is the #pvp channel not a kid's playground channel

why are we talking about bgs

[round jetty]

Guardian is BIS at high rankings

[tardy hare]

these people at 1600 keep declining me cause im not a DH

[muted edge]

I was meaning rbgs

[tardy hare]

yes i know

[junior plover]

yeah me2

[tulip falcon]

i only know 1 dh tank above 2.5

[junior plover]

[round jetty]

they are stupid -_- I'm running in a 2K3 grp atm and they want only guardian lolz

[radiant moon]

Check the pins on this channel

[foggy ravine]

boomkin on most maps then guardian on some

[tulip falcon]

lfg is slow to catch up with meta

lol

[tardy hare]

yes im just looking to carry some apes in my free time

but they dont want to

[foggy ravine]

cuz guardian is bis

[tulip falcon]

and most guardian druids have downs tbh so they prob have bad experiences

[foggy ravine]

I mean DH is cool cuz they are so mobile for ctf

but any other map i'd rather have a druid

[mild sigil]

Are there any good pvp addons or weak auras for feral

[foggy ravine]

I suppose spec sight is nice for node maps

[mild sigil]

to see my bleeds on enemy nameplates for exammple

[foggy ravine]

but I think DH is easy to cap on

[twilit siren]

does spec sight have a range limit?

[foggy ravine]

noooope

[twilit siren]

so as long as dh clicks bge frame, he should be able to see all invis locations right?

[foggy ravine]

they should pretty much be using spec sight on cd to locate stealthies

[twilit siren]

dunno someone was telling me we're far so dh won't be able to tell

[tardy hare]

i made it in boys

time to aim for the stars

[tulip falcon]

lmao

[foggy ravine]

did you tell them you were 1.2k xp

[tardy hare]

i did not unfortunately

[foggy ravine]

also let them know you use arrow keys for movement

[tardy hare]

did convince him tho

[clear pulsar]

There's some distance where nameplates dont show even for target

[tardy hare]

nameplates show across map

but doesnt work for dh sight i think

[tulip falcon]

on every rbg map you can always see where people are if you target

[tardy hare]

or atleast they didnt appear for me

on dh

[tulip falcon]

yea idk about dh specifically

[tardy hare]

just like eye in arena doesn't show em either

[twilit siren]

oh so sight's range does have a limit

[tardy hare]

no

or well

[junior plover]

Pikaboo went all in on the assa pick huh?

[tardy hare]

u can see em

just not nameplates

[junior plover]

[tardy hare]

i think

[twilit siren]

how do you see someone super far without nameplates

[tardy hare]

look at ur screen

[junior plover]

[tardy hare]

me looking far away for rogues

[foggy ravine]

I keep magnifying glass on my desk for hunting rogues

esp when spyglass was around

[twilit siren]

like sitting stables, how do you tell invis at mines without nameplates

[tardy hare]

not

[twilit siren]

what

[tardy hare]

what

[slim robin]

you can't

[slim robin]

i love you already holy shit

[tardy hare]

where u from? we can make this work

[foggy ravine]

DH friend says that nameplates don't show for spec sight

[tardy hare]

great so i wasn't ACTUALLY a stupid fucking DH

[foggy ravine]

but theres apparently a glyph that makes invis targets have green silhouette

[tardy hare]

broken

[foggy ravine]

all I know is I am hiding in bushes as druid now vs. DH sitters

[twilit siren]

so literally only line of sight

[tardy hare]

i just walk behind them cause they're usually fucking stupid

cba to wait

[foggy ravine]

90% of DHs don't even run reverse magic

so I just root beam and /pat

[clear pulsar]

Zev gets teh free clone cuz floormat wont stop casting ring since it's aura mastery limited duration

Very nice

Zev legendary

[tardy hare]

https://gyazo.com/6d47f34941c88ff30bfc9dfdd8c2acbf

POV: you're a demon hunter

[clear pulsar]

Nah you definitely see nameplates with spectral sight bro

There's just some range like idk 100yd?

[tardy hare]

not from stealthed targets

[clear pulsar]

So they changed it in shadowlands?

[tardy hare]

no nameplates in bgs in bfa either

dude

this leader

literally just changed me to dps role

and invited a DH tank

[foggy ravine]

just spec guardian in game

don't say anything

[tardy hare]

true

[foggy ravine]

"i'm FC now"

[clear pulsar]

And you're complaining?

[tardy hare]

yes

i came to afk

and flame

[clear pulsar]

LOL

Bro this kyrian aoe stun proc is ridiculous

[tardy hare]

dude this guy is taking so long

to make a1600 party

f m l

[clear pulsar]

FLP about to bring out the

Necro feral, aff lock, prot pala

Necro feral, aff lock, holy priest

You think Zev knows you can trigger the spell reflect with soothe?

Just for free

[tulip falcon]

he has to make sure they are all above 25% vers!!

[bitter harness]

[crude minnow]

"need veng dh. Guardian no good"

[tardy hare]

join 1 bg party

meet guiltyas and torty

reeeee

[tulip falcon]

u facing them?

[tardy hare]

ye

xd

fuck this

[junior plover]

[clear pulsar]

If you win do they lose expert tag?

[tardy hare]

xd

they wont lose

they cant

this group is

[lime light]

some pve guild?

[tardy hare]

-500 exp

[clear pulsar]

Oh they're playing like

Full guild queue

LMAO

[tardy hare]

alts

[clear pulsar]

GUilty is on main

[tardy hare]

ye

[clear pulsar]

Also wtf they have an actual nerd ass comp

[tulip falcon]

they tank rating then?

[tardy hare]

battle of titans

[clear pulsar]

Bro ngl Soul Rot looks utterly useless for destro

And Nozom isn't even Niya for the big mastery buff

[junior plover]

Every time destro presses Soul Rot

[clear pulsar]

Feel like necro with ultimate form could be quite decent

[junior plover]

I'm like

Then i eat double chaos bolt

[clear pulsar]

He doesn't seem to be getting great use out of Soulshape either idk

[junior plover]

Idk I think it's mostly for soulshape

WAIT THERES A KITTY

OH MY GOD

[edgy salmon]

Boomkin pvp. nf w boat good for goal of 2s 2.1K?

[clear pulsar]

Holy cock bro can we delete arms warrior from the game?

[junior plover]

Floormat lives at 1%

This is so sad

I saw the kitty for a whole 20s

Ron paul heal harder

u fool

[south siren]

what talents should i go for as NF bala in rbgs?

[split timber]

Hi I want to try casual unrated bgs but try multi specs. Which legendary to use. I understand the compromised involved. Is the one sold from pvp vendor good?

[lime light]

order's will vs sephuz vs circle

but its gonna be fiesta

craft one 190 ilvl for each

imo

[split timber]

How the one from pvp vendor is called?

[lime light]

sephuz

[junior plover]

Yo who here plays destro feral

there was 1 guy

[clear pulsar]

Some russian dude from old days?

Zakat or something

[junior plover]

Nah I mean here in this channel

[clear pulsar]

Yes me too

[junior plover]

Oh

Im curious about hpal vs disc

in destro feral

disc sounds like it'd slap

[clear pulsar]

I don't think disc can keep destro up thru wws warrs and rets

[junior plover]

Ok but who can keep anyone up through feral destro disc

just kill them first

[lime light]

ret

[junior plover]

they bop
priest dispells

[slim robin]

they change a lot based on how you play, what you play, where you play

[clear pulsar]

Imagine the 2 specs that get nerfed 3 hotfix sets in a row are still the 2 most prevalent specs in the tourney

[junior plover]

Imagine the most prevalent spec

is not even nerfed

well dps anyway

STOP DELETING MY EMOTE

[clear pulsar]

Are you spamming tettles too much?

LMAO

[slim robin]

@south siren try and understand what each pick is for and how it works, as boomie I always have diff build depending on map and comp or my team and enemy team

[junior plover]

TBH I find it kinda interesting

that WW fell off

[slim robin]

Incarnation is baseline though I'd say, and charge

[junior plover]

naturally

compared to AWC 1

with no nerfs

Also I'm kinda enjoying every AWC being a different balance patch

I hope they keep it up

dont mind waiting for a patch and them only dropping 1 between each awc just make it consistent

[clear pulsar]

Not that deep tbh

@south siren
Renewal, Bash, Incarn, Fury of Elune are all good alternatives for the respective tiers.
Take Force of Nature if you're base sitting.
Can swap High Winds for Thorns or Deep Roots if you'd like. Dying Stars is also good but only if your team doesn't have an aff lock.

[junior plover]

Do boomies actually run high winds

[clear pulsar]

It's a good default

Hella clones on the melees training your healers

[south siren]

pretty similar to what i was running then, ty

[clear pulsar]

Pretty helpful

[slim robin]

only run it in arena personally

[junior plover]

Wonder why it's never played as feral

vs commonly for boomie

too many good pvp talents

[clear pulsar]

It's cuz

We have fero wound

SOTW = celestial guardian, LOTP = moonkin aura, then last slot is up in the air ye!?

Thorns, high winds, fero wound

Dying stars

[junior plover]

fero wound > sotw

I stopped running thorns in most matchups

sotw kinda slaps

[clear pulsar]

Dying stars is kinda lit if your team doesnt have dispel protection

[junior plover]

I like how the warrior was literally on the other side of the map 1v3

and his healer

[clear pulsar]

Deep roots kinda nice too since healers will have a buncha dots usually, helps with root beam

[junior plover]

casually losing behind a box

because he knows

warriors cant die

[lime light]

ww's issue is, they are sqishy, and hpal and ret is in meta

[junior plover]

right now in awc

[lime light]

one good bop on karma

[clear pulsar]

Yeah warriors dgaf bro

[lime light]

and its over

and arms

shits on ww also

but ww is insane spec

[junior plover]

Yeah but

WW Mage was pretty much the best comp awc1

so its odd mage arms completely took over

with arms nerfed

well

adjusted

but I guess nerfing HPal will always hurt the squishy spec

so arms wins

[clear pulsar]

I think it has more to do with hpal nerfs

Arms support is insane

And hpal nerfed so squishy ww << livelord with 8 support spells

[junior plover]

I don't expect them to nerf mage next patch

and if they nerf arms

its just gonna be all ww mage

[clear pulsar]

They gotta nerf intervene surely

[junior plover]

Yes

[clear pulsar]

At least ww can die if they don't play great

[junior plover]

Intervene should be like a 3 min cd

[clear pulsar]

Ofc there will always be a top spec/comp

[junior plover]

its literally ultimate sac

on a 30s cooldown

[clear pulsar]

Yeah it makes every other melee irrelevant

Except for ret I guess

[dusky cypress]

anyone here tried frenzyband in pvp?

[lime light]

no thank u

xiuni

the na egirl

that got like

100 simps

[haughty compass]

Final form tho

[clear pulsar]

Orc sephuz ultimateform nice

Remember when people thought podtender was an issue?

[sinful canyon]

Bro

Why do racials exist in pvp

Orc walking double pvp trinkets

????

[haughty compass]

Clever use of game mechanics

[junior plover]

Remember pre legion Human racial

they let it be that way for 10 years

what were they thinking?

[marsh pollen]

i mean undead racial use to not dr with trinket and made you immune to effects for a duration

[junior plover]

^ that too

But human racial used to not dr with trinket

no one would ever play undead with a class that could be human

is there a class that can be undead but cant be human?

dont think so

And will got nuked in early wrath

[marsh pollen]

didnt human only get emfh in wotlk?

[junior plover]

Huh I thought it was tbc

but ure right

Buffed emfh

[novel wind]

wut

[marsh pollen]

I think horde had stronger racials though before like cata and then a lot of people swapped alliance for awhile

[novel wind]

before wrath

[junior plover]

just git gud

[novel wind]

humans had free pvp trinket as a racial in wrath

also they got DBZ hair in wrath

[junior plover]

Well given that humans used to just run the cc reduce trinket

they just had a better orc racial

but orc racial

was busted af

[novel wind]

i don't think cc reduce trinket existed back then

[marsh pollen]

nah that trinket is fairly new

[junior plover]

Am I going insane

[muted edge]

Is feral good for pvp?

[junior plover]

my memory is so fucked

[junior plover]

yep

[muted edge]

Sweet

[novel wind]

in wrath you just had normal trinket that gave you a bunch of resilience

[marsh pollen]

I don't think racials are that big a deal now

[novel wind]

cc reduce came with pvp talents didn't it

[marsh pollen]

Except some races just have terrible racials

[junior plover]

I think racials are fine right now

[marsh pollen]

Like BE racial is just awful now

[slim robin]

3k dmg 2k heal, yup thats a guardian rbg game alright

[junior plover]

altho orc human and undead

[marsh pollen]

and nightborne

maghar

[junior plover]

are still kinda too stronk

[marsh pollen]

Orc, human, night elf

Are really good

[novel wind]

BE racial would have been good but they nerfed it and made shield undispellable in m+

so now it's not useful for anything lol

[marsh pollen]

at least compared to the others but its not like it use to be

[junior plover]

nelf is good but its only really played in druid

[novel wind]

you can dispel BoP with it still i guess

[junior plover]

because we cant be humans or undead

or orc

[novel wind]

tauren isn't bad but i would love to be UD druid lol

[junior plover]

i'd love to be nelf druid

[cunning sedge]

hello 🙂 as a boomi in attack attack team, which affinity would you run ? healer abilities to help your rogue or the bear to emphasize anticast

[marsh pollen]

I wish there was a horde race besides troll and tauren

[junior plover]

zandalari troll

[novel wind]

lol yeah all 4 horde druid races are just troll and tauren

[junior plover]

you mean in 2s?

[cunning sedge]

sorry

in rbg

[opaque adder]

so, can boomie live through rogues opener with just bark on higher vers %? Right now without a trink and if in no bear i die to stunlock

[cunning sedge]

rbg 🙂

[junior plover]

Sorry not a big boomie or rbg player

[fleet panther]

question: if I hit 1800 or any milestone rating to upgrade gear...if I fall below that rating do I lose the ability to upgrade to that ilvl?

[novel wind]

if the rogue is geared and you have no trinket, yeah it's entirely feasible to die in the opener

[opaque adder]

@fleet panther yup

[marsh pollen]

there's a 25 rating grace

but yeah

[opaque adder]

you keep it for a reset

than it resets

[novel wind]

always trinket the kidney or you die

[fleet panther]

ah ok. that's unfortunate...but good to know

[opaque adder]

to whatever rating youre on

[marsh pollen]

You can also sit rating on a bracket and then play a different one

a lot of people are doing that with RBG rating

[junior plover]

Yeah you can never touch that rating again

and just get conquest from other sources

[fleet panther]

i need to bump up my RBG rating then

[opaque adder]

thanks :))) off to watch awc

[marsh pollen]

RBG rating seems very inflated for some reason

And boomkin is really good in rbg so many people want boomkins

[clear pulsar]

'For some reason'

It's because it takes 3 competent players to carry the other 7 bonobos

[vital parcel]

convoke big dam

[marsh pollen]

Its not just that though it seems like the average rating in RBG's is higher then arena