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You can and it does but the math would be insane
i'm saying siming 1 item vs another
the formula is not that bad but simming multiple items at once
is
I guess if it's all feel craft I'll just feel craft it
yah whatever makes that purple number at the top right of my character pane the highest is what i go w/
I would have like 15% versa if I did that LOL
And that's probably the correct play
while targeting main stat vers pieces via pvp and otherwise*
People have a really unhealthy obsession with their vers %
So is versa over valued by the community and not that good then?
Then 27% and more main stat losing 2k hp only seems a bit better š
I would maybe drop 5 ilvls for versa + main stat on all items if I had like poopoo secondaries
but more than that?
nah
When in reality 15% vers with 40k hp is tankier than 30% vers with 38k hp.
This is me in an example so if that's true then i guess I'll start rocking low versa
I havnt pvpd since pvp power LOL
Versa% only matters when comparing 2 characters of equal ilvl
thats why im assuming people initially started asking for it
Hmmm makes sense
but then clueless people started parroting it
Yeah I see most pugs you need 20%+
I mean if they only take 220+ 20%+
Ok so 38k with 30% vers vs 40k with 15% was a bit of an exaggeration
I think it depends on your region
Since I'm brazilian I like vers
If you're from Sugondo then
You sugondese bro?

I got fuji that's all that matters
Guess I'll play some low versa game if I feel like I'm dying just up it
But I am like 40k plus hp with 15ish% so should be fine
Unique think about versa tankiness
vs stam tankiness
is that technically after you take your first point of damage
stam tankiness requires a heal
and so it requires mana and or a global or whatever
its easier to top off someone with higher vers
speaking of stam tankiness, i fought an aff lock holy priest yesterday and the lock had 48k hp, was truly fucked
Think bear form helps too, i get absolutely dumpstered on lock without vers but druid i run a few pve pieces and feel way tankier
so you're saying I should stack versa now?!?!

Idk the big heals that top you always overheal by a lot
Win before dampen
truth

Play the better meleecleave
and report back to me
what the fuck
Way better name then kitty
I'm about to hit this legendary man up for some legendary queues
So good
Who carried mcconnell
the first game i ever played as feral in arena was against mcconnel and some r1 shadow priest
@clear pulsar careful bro he might dupe your voters and raise taxes

i got fucking owned
@junior plover meta
truth
does it every ssn
shit


He meant metaphors btw, not that the meta carried him

Yee no, thanks I thought he meant pvp meta
i ThOuGhT hE mEaNt Dh MeTa
or what do they want from me

My sub expired but I still have snupy's twitch emotes here 
cheaper than nitro
would recommend
I wonder if I keep them forever
its happening
gow long til they replace you

Probably when they find out i suk at 3s
hehehe
Yeah need Necro with Circle and LI to unlock the true potential for sure @stray sigil
hihihihi

welcome to my life kiosk
How dare you lose at all, obviously you and the warrior are the problem and you will go on a lose streak
He left after he didn't bubble and died in a go from turbo 
Figured he died first even without full log
I can only imagine he was spamming the bop button in a HoJ
and then when it didnt work and he died with trinket and bubble he got all mad
Was it an hpal?
Iāll take that over finding a disc, winning 9 games in a row with him, then he left without saying a word
And here I thought I found my 2ās bae
https://www.twitch.tv/xenpvp hype gameplay
tf did i just tune into? they were standing in their starting area and you guys were on the other side of hte map at 90% damp
excellent victory tho
it's not me
oh unlucky
lmao
As a resto druid I take offense to this but also completely understand
its absolutely heart breaking that i stopped playing at the end of legion and dont have tron cat form
and theres no way i can ever have it
me too man

honestly maybe im biased but i think they need to give druids the ability to get the mage tower forms
it feels completely different than transmog weapons to me
They should just do a new mage tower every 2 expacs or so
we have no other transmogs
i just can literally never have the best cat form and bear form in the game?
ever?
Yes

because i wasnt playing the game at one 2 month period?
theres nothing else like that in the game
I didnt get mt either dw loll
Why u cryin
Go in debt for that sweet blue cat
I think that's a really fine compromise given every other item in a similar category gets that treatment
Got guardian and feral MT never useneither š
If boomies had special boomkin forms from there
it'd be on bah

blizzard is literally
racist
fuk u
Maybe just something that uses the same model? Idrc abt tints
yeah agreed, keep the tints special who cares
I need one of you guys to go to blizzcon next year and ask that question live
will cat and bear mage tower appearances get added to black auction market house
if it were a transmog weapon or gear set its whatever let people be special, but as a druid its your entire character
Yeah its kinda wild too because
no other class in the game gives a shit

Who gives a shit about some artifact wep appearance
yeah they're cool but theres thousands of other weapons in the game
we can pick from like 4
and the best one is permanently unobtainable
hey is there such thing as too much vers lol? im running 27 and it feels fine atm
thanks
at this point ive only got a 220 belt that doesnt have verse main so it looks like close to 30 is the cap more or less
oh i spose both my weapons have verse as secondary
Or hear me out, take soul ash out of ghast and make it rewards from callings/m+/pvp
And add cosmetics to ghast
Just add more stuff to Twisting Corridors
Yeah I'm sitting on 30.78% I think
It's in the area of 31-31.25
I wish boomy had a mage tower shapeshift appearance man. We dun even get that
Because you don't deserve it you play the cursed class

spec*
Reroll kitty noob
boomy is bis
i should honestly go feral
my name is literally Big cat in french
and i play owl
gross shat
All these fake cats in my feral channel
its fuji's feral channel
sir this is a wendys
@blissful belfry bro you even have a cat picture
how dare ryou
next thing you tell me @deft tapir here is also owl
fuck that lol

I'd die of brain rot playing boomy.
Spicy chicken all day
they've got like 5 buttons
CATTE
is the point of torghast to do the highest u can
i just tried a floor 3 of one and got fucking wrekt
or do u just spam the easier ones for soul ash
U have to do layer 8 of the two wings each week for 500 ash
You only get rewards for a layer once so u can't spam layer 1 over and over
Whack
570 ash each
ok
torghast is so faceroll tho
sealth, to end, covoke boss, ascend, stealth convoke ascend.
Its my cat! Well, was. R.I.P.
twin moons in rbg? or stellar drift
what? really
is there any rbg guide for boomkin specifically?
in terms of conduits, talents etc
found it in pins nvm
Any experienced guardian Druid FCs?
Having a lot of trouble finding up to date info on guardian FC online and I had some questions
should probably ask the question instead of asking about the question, would get better results

@hollow token sleeper, brambles, stand on flag not far away to def spot. what questions do you have?
yeah actually I was wondering about the legendary choice. I was looking at sleepers but 1 use every 3 minutes made me kind of question it.
Is there not a better more consistent option to be more tanky? Or is the utility during berserk always worth it on flag maps
ahh just swap the items out
cc immunity is invaluable
otherwise just wear the 10% increase on barkskin leggo?
yes.
that actually makes a lot of sense. thanks
but dont forget to equip sleeper again.
Does anyone know for boomkin can running Boomkin/Frost DK/Rsham work for 3s comp, looking at other potential comps
@stray sigil curio actually good?
@undone nexus comp is good to cheese. AOE, Root, Cap totem
supatease has a vid on it i think. its pretty good meme content
just gotta make sure your shamman doesnt root the healer for no reason when you have rootbeam comin
dun wanna dr it
Awesome thanks! Yeah its been hard to figure out our arena push comp since my teammates mains+specs don't match mine lol. But will keep on testing it out!
Stat prio for fc guardians? Haste vers?
how korayn feel?
vers>mastery
you only need sleeper
NoW isn't needed or worth swapping
people will cc when incing as opposed to killing and you sorta need sleeper for kiting
so natural order's will doesn't seem that useful and i wouldn't want to get stuck in combat with it on when i could have sleeper
you will generally have incarn for every offense go on flag maps since 2.5 min cd isnt long
wow, sometimes i wonder if diminishing returns exists
Is jungle good with holy paladin? Friend does not play priest. Probably only going for 1800 so we should be fine?
Hpal/arms/feral=kitty Cleave
As kyrian boomkin, do you want to keep the Timeworn Dreambinder buff up all the time or just proc it when you burst?
Should usually be pooling and bursting right
@wise valley yes better than sym imo
prob the best overall lego if ur not gonna play skin lego
NF resto druids, what soublind do you use in arenas?
so best way to kill guardian fc you trade most if not all long cds to force incarn, and go 2nd offense asap?
Does feral/dk still work as a comp? Haven't seen it much on ladder
Feral gearing to try boom, researching weapons how do I decide whether to fish around for one 2-hander or a 1-hander and offhand?
you think whichever you have at highest ilvl
the only way to ''target'' one is by farming some m+, but gear in m+ is bad. But if you still wanna do it, i guess you're better off farming a 2h, at least you dont need to get 2 pieces
nobody?
@wind rock dreamweaver is cool for soothing 2 def 2 potency
fellow nightfaes, are you tired of shifting out of your active form because soulshape hides it? worry not, this macro should save you a global cooldown or two
#showtooltip Moonkin Form
/use [noform:7]Moonkin Form
/cancelaura Soulshape
Thanks
Thatās what I was leaning towards and might just spend some honor on an offspec weapon if I canāt get anything else. I did get yesterdayās wq int dagger and I think thereās a wq int staff up today to get the ball rolling
Yes
Canāt stand m+ lol, pvp and raid is my jam
is there a truly afk honor farming method?
like only activity would be requeuing?
oh yeah
like earth shield myself
and fight a frost wold
going bear form vs a frost wolf probs has same effect
Stellar Drift in rated BG's?
You should save ap for priority kills imo. I don't ever really cast starfall in rbgs
is necrolords with circle as cat any good rn? havent been playing my cat since first weekš
@narrow iris do you recommend Fury of Elune as well or do I take Solstice?
I take fury generally but solstice is usable in rbgs
ill do solstice then, kinda scared of fucking that up in my first rbg's^^
drop moons on em
Not really but it might be good in 9.0.5
since there's a necrolord buff coming then
3rd wall coupled with a shield pog
Looking to spend extra soul ash, what are some fun legos for rbgs? any spec is good
I dont think it will
but necro druid got buffed too
I think necro shield couldve been fine if the soulbind didnt give it cc immunity lol
Imagine youre a resto druid and you fail to bait kick
you get kicked
you just press it lol
hey fellas, does anyone know a rbg guardian guide to get started?
legacy of the sleeper run flags, if its not a flag map go mid and spin for team
you can run most legos if your not on flag, but defending a base a guardian can be difficult unless there is lots of fighting on it
currently, i am solo base defending or anti tapping on other maps
does alliance usually win ashran?
aight
LMAO i found a skeleton with 6k hp that just hits 100
im tank rn so i can outheal it
i rmember winning every ashran we did when i was on ED with a guild premade
back when ED took world bgs seriously just farmed honor non stop
@vestal citrus good strats tyvm might make capping honor bearable
yes
use sleeper for everything you're playing guardian on
so whats up with the 3 champs in the home base i get to pick
for the conduit thingys
They're like talent trees
You can swap between them in rested areas or with tomes, and you can socket conduits into the empty spots
Changing sockets costs one of the little gem things on the bottom right under your conduit list
You get them back once a day
tyty
What talents are other boomies running for rbgs?
@vestal citrus Thats what I thought Im just gonna swap from fury of elune to Solstice
wait wtf there are no mobs in WG
Yeah I also like the spread pressure of my dots and with Boat they should crank when I hit an eclipse
we attacking
and getting beaten quickly
ima just stealth auto slow walk into a wall
does that work?
yeah the orc soldiers die real quickly i suppose i could just stand there though
20 horde vehicles and 2 alliance
attacking is really shit
I wonder if korayn might be worth with the +25% crit thingy for twoās with either a rogue or healer so you get plenty of restealths
For boomie
Oh š¦
same with the 3% damage thing. doesnt work on dots
and only works on DPS spells
korayns last row is literally useless 99% of the time
Ok š
Face the foes is pretty decent tho right? But i guess its not worth loosing the niya mastery for, even if burrs is pretty shit
if you're pressing a damage ability every GCD and the target is facing you
its a debuff placed on the enemy player that lasts 2 seconds. so if you get CC'd, it drops off
Good point
doesnt work on dots either
and you usually die in a stun, so literally useless
and the other one you cant move for 5 seconds and there's no buffer afterwards
so also useless
really sadge they made that row so awful mechanically
im so damn sick of this game
jungle is so bad this season
every comp has a damn warrior and it makes it so fucking difficult to do anything
so much mongo shit dps comps
yes
I keep goin 2.3k
then next night again 2.1k
then sometimes a good streak again to 2.3k
then back
fucking so tired of facing the same comps
everything rolls jungle
jungle clearly ain't bad, but I don't blame anyone for being frustrating playing against war cuz u gtotta work way harder
I just wanna get glad and quit this shit expansion
paladin / war every game lol
on the brightside so, its always the warrior's game to lose, since theyre being the metacuck
and honestly you have to work just as hard at 2.1k mmr as at 2.4k mmr
cause every opponent is a damn r1 gladiator
and its so god damn tiring
its true from my experience at least
yesterday night I was 2.4k mmr now back to 2.1k
and just keep losing
I just wanna quit cause its ruining my mental wellbeing for good but I want that cool gladiator mount or ill regret it
Is glad mount worth ur mental
Season gonna be around a while anyways maybe take a week off
For half patch
Afaik it's not anything close to a new season but maybe I can't read
all CC yes
Idk I spent a lot of time getting tilted at games and I don't think it was every really worth in the long run
i cant imagine pushing glad for the first time this ssn is good for anyone
its one of the worst seasons i've ever played
extreme imbalance and too much burst in the meta
well overdue tuning for certain specs we are still waiting for
haha noo just another 3% buff to warriors I bet
is it really extreme inbalance compared to other seasons? i feel like there's al ot of strong classes
the burst is def insane tho
i feel like the bursty meta makes the imbalance more obvious
thats prob true
seeing like either hpala or disc every game is also stale already
def stale healer meta
Maybe now I have 2.4 in rbg I can try 2.4 in arena
I peak almost 2.1k in 2s zz
I do want to try boom/ele/hpal
Just need to stop tanking my 3s rating queuing with random people who lfg in the skirms section
Tfw just wanna play jungle with my mate but he's being a flog
And won't craft his lego
i feel like the enjoyment for this season is just a retaliatory response to bfa dampen meta
if you criticize it people just say "lool u want bfa back"
I mean tbh I never want to play a game longer than 5min
like no there can easily be a middle ground
Or like 6min
between both
same but it can still be fast paced without being what it is atm
it feels a bit extreme
yea but unfortunately those specs make up so much of the ladder
@vestal citrus what are you capping mastery at
pins say vers>mast.haste>crit
whats preference for master or haste
im gonna punch the next person who asks about 2ndaries capping
where u at
i weigh 160 pounds 6 ft im huge ill take u down
i can bench press the bar
bro ill tell my mom AND dad on u
ill walk out of my crib with overalls and a hunting rifle
@vestal citrus 1.1k honor from winning that glaive BG + all my timed honor gains
900 for losing a 40 min bg
wg*
Hey to reach 2.4K do I need that macros? Mass root, mass root +beam,Cyclone,mighty bash(target, focus, arena 1 + 2 )?
i actuall have cyclone (target, focus, arena 1 and 2), rootbeam (target, focus, arean 1 and 2), kick(target, focus, arena 1 and 2) but mostly im only using rootbeam and then also a focus bash macro if needed
is it rng who get trapped if you wc the target?
I kind of agree @tulip falcon I enjoy the pace of the game, but there's too much 1 ability one shots
like getting hunted for 20k
or combust meteor shit
or rets entire toolkit
I do think its much better than basically any of the BFA seasons
yeah
I think CDS for everything are too strong
every class in the game + healers
have too much throughput in CDs
in both pvp and pve
Yeah the core essence or "flow" of the gameplay is fine, it just needs to be toned down for some specific specs
Some comps I play jungle against and i'm like that felt like a sick game
and then i queue into a ret warrior
Also the reason why disc/hpala shines so much is because they have so many CDs to suit current meta
or an enhance ret or something
shit like rsham/rdruid/mw has no big boi CDs to stop the oneshots atm
so if burst meta was toned down it may make them a bit more viable by proxy
yea which is why they still see some play compared to the other 2
but not nearly as much as hpala/disc
i enjoy it cuz im feral, but 22k-25k bites prob aren't okay either lol
"i sure hope this bite crits and 1 shots him"
maldiva was complaining bitterly about feral yesterday "wow so much healing, and he just crits me for 20k". im like dam there's really ppl out there btiching about feral
theres a lot of annoying off-healing rn tho lol
off-healing feels way stronger than it was in bfa
for sure, offhealing def feels strong early xpac. by 8.3 when u have liek 400k hp a 20k offheal aint shit
fukin word of glory is the worst offender
at least the other classes heals cost mana
resto needs a damage buff too imo]
after master shapeshifter was gutted
what do you guys stack behind vers in rbg's as boomy?
my favourite game this season was when we queued into 3 boomkins
yeah strength of the wild is kinda dumb for healing i guess
haste mainly unaboomer, but some mastery can be nice too
Tree Form worth it against double DPS 2s over SOTF?
according to our resident resto expert, no never take tree
ask lakerz for more info
Tree suxks never play it
Sotf is more consistent throughput and also more burst healing lol
Yea I queued a few games into axtin and circada as arms rdruid and they just kited the whole game healed with instant regrowths
I just ran hotw master shapeshift feral and my warr had to play double time to just w key axtin the whole game
So if swiftmend Leggo still requires a rejuv, why is it good? I'm using Oath atm and I feel like the affinity passive portion alone makes it almost better than any other leggo. The lifebloom leggo seems like it could be really good with a heavy haste build.
Cause sure it doesnt consume a rejuv, but that means in pvp you miss out on one rejuv tick if you re apply it the global after swiftmend? Like it doesn't increase throughput that much at all right, basically it improves mana efficiency?
129% base movespeed seems WAY more worth it in 2s and even having 49 yrd spells with moonkin affinity also seems better than having to re apply rejuv everytime.
Also as necrolord the HOTW procs from oath, with master shapeshifter, one use trinket, and conduit buffed adaptive swarm makes my cat bleeds actually huge.... I just cant see why Swiftmend leggo would be better than that.
Draught is better dmg if you want dmg
And also better healing if you have double rejuv on a single target
Barkskin leggo is better survivability if you need that
Verdant doubles the value of cenarion ward, and yes mana efficiency, dumping swiftmends after overgrowth you dont have to reapply hots for over 30 seconds.
Also extendes adaptive swarm
Giving u much better uptime on it on healing
On whats basically a 30% buff to everything but swiftmend
But the extra movespeed with Oath seems invaluable with feral affinity, that with tireless pursuit means I can hop on and put of travel form and get 2 globals between, and outrun ANY MELLE
That amount of mitigation seems like it would "outheal" any of the other leggos + healing benefits
Ok.sounds good
I mean no?
I'm just looking at other leggos, and theorycrafting. Drought seems possible good, which are you using primarily?
Well no
I told u whqt makes verdant good and u got back with YEAH BUT OATH IS GREAT
Sounds like u just want to keep using oath then
I use verdant almost everytime I heal, sometimes barkskin leggo
I did craft oath and particularly dislike it
But i have no good reason to try to convince you not to use it
What's your season high rating in 2's and 3's?
Lol are you trying to reason with rating? Look up the ladder every rdru above 2.4 runs verdant.
whoever has higher must be right
I'm 2.1 cr in both but only play resto occasionally
Only if I have a particularly nice mage for 2s or something
It's just worth asking.... its not that I disagree, just want to make sure its credible.....
Word, thanks for the resource!
Oath is bis for mog farming tho 
š
they were talking resto its butt for boomy
Circle is pve resto and feral
For rbgs people usually run mother tree
Or keep verdant
Yea look up kubzy flip minpojke any r1 rdruid is using verdant vekst
@tiny oar i crafted oath bro had to do it
its bad for boomy cuz boomy leggos are so much more broken than wat everyone else gets lol
And i just bot brain did it
Icy veins isnt generally good for pvp info
dont join the dark side pls
For rbgs circle is just padding but not even good padding
Boat or dreambinder still more dmg and more kill pressure
Nah i dont like it
But I had to go and use it just to test
Any tips on starfall usage for 2s / 3s / bgs?
https://gyazo.com/9b7ffe3592570b8ca1e2223015da66ab worth buying weapons for conquest? whats your opinions on this
1850 conquest seems like ALOT
but then again, its alot of power too
Starfall is padding. Only reason to maybe use in rbgs is if you kill healers and are wiping the rest.
@forest kite based on current cap you can actually get all slots minus two at 226+ just from conquest and boe.
so do u suggest a weapon?
Man Iām so bad 
Me too it's ok buddy
Lol š
Hit 1600 as resto but I canāt find a consistent partner - back at 1500 rip lol
Yea i got jebaited Glyph š¦
Guardian druids
Also do we get more damage to all pvp content or only related to bgs and arenas?
like world pvp? ya im pretty sure u still take extra damage
Hello there i wanna ask what conduits there are good for boomi in 2s and 3s cant really find anything about it
night fae :)
Is niya best for pvp for nightfae feral?
i havent watched awc no
yea i agree tho fuji. mw and resto are mad annoying when they're good. having a healer just kite ur CDs is frustrating as hell
Niyas tool poison or burrs?
im happy for mw to be in the dirt
Pikaboo played vs some team of rank 1s i dont remember who, maybe it was piff dipi, they were triple kyrian with mikanikos
But not mikanikos with the stun reduc
i have played vs milakos mage
They were mikanikos with the aoe stun proc at low hp
Yeah lmao
Hilarious tho
feels like a giga dampening strat
god that sounds annoying
is there a smoke bomb fade delay? friend's saying it allows for solo smoke flag cap sometimes
More toxic than this hpal horseshit bro?? Actually so fucking boring tbh
i think if melees werent as crazy i would have less of an issue with hpals
btu rdu is def mega cancer to play vs
Ya dinoe a good druid hes just a fucking goober always rage whispering ppl and in streamers chats BMing them it seems like
thats a nice way to say that dinoe is a psychopath
Ya p much lil wacky
just ur typical ego inflated r1 wow player
Hpal more toxic in 2s tho I feel like every game is just arms hpal every match takes 10m to win actually so damp it fries me
Rather almost rather /afk it's so boring
how much of it is how strong hpal is
vs how strong warrior is though
like hpal makes tanky classes
unkillable
thats the whole problem
Yea like if I play arms rdruid into arms hpal I just have to play bear to damp hard enough to win it's just the most zz playstyle in the game.
Saw u fighting flop bear aff arms warr with smight and u just afked out before the game even ended right like its such a joke
For sure
ya we played graycen flop i think
just unplayable
or no ya ur right
was a lfg warrior
some dog ass player
and its like unwinnable
like no matter what healer warrior is gonna be aids
hpal is dumb borken and annoying right now, but having a feral druid run away from u for 20 minutes is also annojying
i mean
resto druid
ya imagine rdu getting mega buffs
play guard aff every game
whi
pog
champ
rdru is just about playing like the biggest fword in the world
and tilt ur opponents
i legit cant play vs rdrus and not wanna kill myself
Lol
Buy weapon or 3-4 offpieces?
atleast in 2s
184 weap is what i have
its def not fun playing vs rdru when they are super strong in 2s
weapon
bear all game
Yea it's like almost perfect how it is atm but worried the rejuv n swarm buffs might put it a bit over the edge
i dont think rdru is that bad
Like swarm rejuvs just keeping ppl up infinitely
its just hpal is overtuned
Yea
Its like solid A tier along with disc n maybe rsham but hpal is so far ahead its crazy
MLD was pretty toxic tho for a couple seasons in bfa tho for sure that shit was disgusting
Destro buffs?
Idk why there aren't more destros idk man like chaos bolt fucking pumps even without dark soul now it's just not a .05s cast anymore
I 3s with a destro
Alll the melee cleaves make it hard
Just play affliction then lol
Lol ya
Pretty sure this is the play ye
would u also run rB?
Yes thats what most destros are doing š hitting 7-10k conflags is pretty fun :-p especially when its a follow up to a 20k cb :-p
Personally i swap between the cb legendary and cinders depending on matchup
Lol
Its fun playing destro, but then i log the boomie and it feels like a lock on steroids when you compare them
yeah prob just same way u setup goes for like any feral comp. bash off target, maim kill target, cyclone off target or have someone else do it like a freezing trap / fear
double coil into bash off target maim kill target seems good
my lock is liek 56 im def gonna play it next
Yes
I wanted to hear your tips for fast swapping between most of the forms. What are your key binds?
i have bear and cat on mouse buttons. it was very easy to get used to and i like it. i dont have a naga its just basic 2 buttons on side of my mouse
Ctrl-E travel, alt-e moonkin, shift-e cat, mouse 4 bear, mouse 5 cancelform
hi guys does PvP trinket set bonus affect damage reduction too?
no
thanks, so I'm wearing cheat death trinket as tank in RBGs then š
C cat, shift c bear, vice versa if already in cat form
does anyone know if you can hibernate xuen
When we can choose between haste or mastery on pvp gear, what is the best for a Night Fae Boomkin?
Alright thanks!
i heard a pala can like bubble or do some shield on us when we convoke so it wont get interrupted sorry for asking a stupid question but what spell is that and is that possible?
oooh damn i see thanks alot. Do i need to do convoke first and then he bubbles me during cast or it doesnt matter?
anyone know about my xuen question
Mousebutton 5 and 4 with modifiers for all forms š
This is probably a commonish question so I apologise as I tried to search a little, I'm leveling my druid alt and plan on being only resto. I really enjoy the playstyle I see from MMarkers with convoke feral affinity but is this just a meme for 2s, especially with the upcoming necro buffs? I like fairly aggressive playstyles and I'm 2.3k on my holy priest main so I'm not awful, just wondering if I'd be setting myself up for failure not going necro
Yeah, resto convoke is mostly a meme
If you want to be competitive and push for high rating, Necro is significantly better. Next patch the gap will be really big.
Also worth noting that when people have like 40k life and 30% vers, your feral affinity convoke will do maybe 40% of their life in a full maim
It just didn't scale too well
What does balance burst setup look like? I mean I know a lot of people just use a one-shot macro, but surely there's a bit more finesse?
are the arena frames setup in a static way for targeting? like is the healer in 3's always arena 2?
That is a bit sad but thanks
do you still find you can contribute good damage to kill attempts as necro?
so what the fuck do you do against shadow comp. i keep healer cloned and priest beamed but they just stall games and rot you to death. so dumb
U can play draught with necro feral aff master shapeshift and have good dot dmg with offensive swarms as well
Sorry to be clear I don't play convoke resto but my buddy has a resto alt and I played into a bunch of rdruids with both covenants
You play more of a support role that most healers play this season
Rake stun into cyclones
You still get up close and personal but you aren't really meant to do damage
Yea u need a rly livelord class to do a good amount of dmg with, like affi mage sp etc
Idk about draught but even if it is decent damage i wouldn't really say it's worth it at all
Rdruids only strength right now is that they're impossible to pin down
Throwing that away for some bleed chip damage isn't worth it
Imo
Depends alot on the comp tho
For lock/rdruid 2ās fx the dmg is pretty crucial to finish the games
I'm planning to craft draught for 2s and test it. I like the idea of it, I'm not sure if it has added value tbh
Oh yeah in 2s
You can consider it in certain comps i agree
HPal or Disc would just fill that role better
But if you wanna play rdruid
Then yeah might as well
No, they're not
Difficult to justify going something other than the swiftmend leggo I guess then?
This bit about gear scaling people survive better whatever is all kinda bullshit tbh
Damage scales just as hard
Especially with vers in pvp being 2.8:1 rather than 2:1 for dmg:def
Necro is a significant single target healing buff yes
And so playing without it limits you to playing with livelord partners
But as you said, mmarkers does crazy shit and doesnt care
If you play good you win games
Just gotta find your moments to make it work
Yea swarmed extended cen ward is actually so insane
Have you played with flourish yet lake?
Would be fun to have an alt rdruid that's convoke or sum other horseshit tho
Nah I swear that's trolling man
Even with 5% mast extra germ rejuv is just a flat 5% extra healing right idk
holypriest is actually the one filling the role best, but just saying a rdruid can work with those comps aswell where its needed to help kill/setup kill with a stun and a little extra dmg, either to finish target, or to finish a pod
Flop said he wouldn't play it so I trust our boy frankie
what is mmarkers?
Rdruid convoker 2 be precise
Bro if Tony wins tourney games as necro feral, you can play night fae resto and have fun and win games, just gotta git gud
This is the hill I'll die on
That's cap
Yea 3k cr as an absolute brocc insane
What is first strike lol
@clear pulsar I'm lvling a 3rd druid to play kyrian rdruid lol
A night fae soulbind trait
tf lol i swear so many druid players have like 20 druids. dont u feel any slight desire to play a diff class?
druid is fun thoi
and so first strike really shit>?
Honestly I kinda dont lol
Nah I just don't like picking up new things
And then playing dozens of games before it's instilled in my brain what buttons to press
First strike doesn't reset on dropping combat
So it's literally just a 5s per game buff @edgy shale

i knew pve ppl were saying that, but i was hoping it was diff in pvp but i already knew lol
just in denial
and ya I can understand that. ive been wanting to play ele but learning shaman from scratch just seems like such a pain in the ass
I got 2 druids priest pally shammy at 60
Ye only main druid n pally have gear tho
Wog abuser 

hi any night fae balance pvper here? whats the best soulbind and conduits for pvp š
Ive been trying to have fun with my monk
thanks man
but i'd really rather have a 2nd kitty
to have both convoke and kyrian
being a feral main is like being that awkward kid in higschool
you get invited to a party (playing a good class), you go, try to have fun but you just end up thinking
they have a higher skill cap
"i'd rather be playing wow right now"
Sleeper for bear in feet slot?
Bro yall really gotta stop with this shit
My hairline recedes 2 inches everytime I read someone saying feral's harder to play than other specs
Fucking snowflakes I swear to god
feral is the hardest spec


I cant even play BM hunter
me too bro 
@clear pulsar used to be ye, but its braindead now
Does the vers bonus from the trink 2 set apply in duels?
Back when dotsnapshotting and no pandemic was a thing maby, but now id argue that no class in wow is really hard š
It applies all the time if you have war mode on, I'm not sure if it applies in duels if you have war mode off but I'd assume it does.

Was gonna say basically the same
Had some guy on reddit argue with me that the trinket set bonus doesnt work and never did
and that he spent hours testing it in bgs, arenas, target dummies
so I checked on target dummy and it worked
in warmode



What is most dmg in pvp - full vers (30%) or like 24% vers and 6% extra mastery ?
Only for convoke dmg
1% vers - 1.4% more damage
(balance druid)
1% mastery - 1% more damage in eclipse
but I doubt you can trade 6% vers for 6% mastery
And with starsurge being astral - double dipping... That would be 12% increased dmg on starsurge ?
mastery % is harder to come by
I can
I will test with warmode on with training dummt =)
no
mastery only double dibs during CA
b/c one eclipse increases nature other increases arcane
so you only double dib when in both eclipses aka CA
almost done with my conq gearing, but im curious which trinks I should get. For the DPS PVP trinket do I go Insignia or Badge? Badge replaces Haste for Crit, which is bad, but gives on use burst. Insignia has Haste but is a proc so it's random.
DUring CA yes
Anyone knows of a keybinding guide for resto druid? A guide that would work well for all healers?
Well it is actually possible to give suggestions on where to place bindings, so that they are easy to reach. Talking in general for newer people, not sure that has been made yet š like using 1-4 is better than using 1-9 etc as they are easier to reach n stuff
Mby thats what he means? Inspiration on which kinda keybindings could be good
I agree, it depends alot on hand size š but an ergonomic centeret guide might be usefull to some people to serve as inspiration, with suggestion to using an mmo mouse especially for ppl with smaller hands etc š
Yea no way i can reach 8 comfortably lol
Does anyone have a macro that uses Incapacitating Roar, but if Incapacitating Roar is on cooldown it just puts you into bear form?
trying to tidy my macros up and abilities
I have one that works with prowl, puts you into stealth but if stealth is on CD it just puts you into cat
I use 1-6, q e r t f g x c v. Plus everything with shift as well. Maybe 2-3 with strg as well. Dont have a mmo mouse
it is true
bite belongs on 3
Anyone see rudars vid trolling with full moon
what covenant is the best for boomie pvp? still nightfae?
What if I have bite on any other button ???
im looking for a covenant in which i can play resto/boomie offspec both in arenas
Nightfae then
TRUTH
Necros best resto pvp but questionable for boomy. Kyrian is best for boomy but pleasedontbeakyrianresto
yh xD
theres literally no other way
If you do any pve as resto you'll want nightfae
Sir where is rake
well im almost all pvp
since this expansion allows it ā¤ļø
The rake one is weird I'll admit
Kiosk what the fuck
you'll hate my binds then
Still probably nightfae then, its a good in between for both
i have my normal abilities on 1-4 then finishers on shift +1-4
Thats fair too
But if you commit to either fully might want to switch to their best cov
Theres no problem with that
sue me
The weirdest of my binds
Just on of your main bleeds is on T?
te fuck
T is my travel form bind lol
No but i saw it on the stream yesterday, oneshotting people looked really hilsrious lol
bite belongs on 4
is shift 4 fine
this warrior in my 1300 mmr rbg just got angry cause i asked him to defend my base instead of walk around the map so i could win the game for him
and hten asked
"is this how people start to act when they get 1600?"


ruining thier experiences
sorry not everyone can be a god at pvp!!
u think they know what happens in the game outside of their 180 degrees of vision on their screen
the only objectively correct keybind is interrupt on F. i will never be swayed from this
my interrupt is on r
This is also true
weird
anything that could be considered a typo of f i think is reasonable
so ur good krassz
I get that
I remember distinctly when I chose F for kick
I thought
I need a key next to WASD
f is my tigers fury












