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junior plover
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Yep yep

mellow coyote
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You can and it does but the math would be insane

junior plover
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i'm saying siming 1 item vs another

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the formula is not that bad but simming multiple items at once

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is

mellow coyote
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I guess if it's all feel craft I'll just feel craft it

clear pulsar
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Idk I just equip highest ilvl

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It realy doesnt matter much

pallid vessel
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yah whatever makes that purple number at the top right of my character pane the highest is what i go w/

mellow coyote
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I would have like 15% versa if I did that LOL

junior plover
pallid vessel
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while targeting main stat vers pieces via pvp and otherwise*

clear pulsar
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People have a really unhealthy obsession with their vers %

mellow coyote
junior plover
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Versa is extremely good

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main stat + stam

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is better

mellow coyote
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Then 27% and more main stat losing 2k hp only seems a bit better šŸ˜‰

junior plover
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I would maybe drop 5 ilvls for versa + main stat on all items if I had like poopoo secondaries

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but more than that?

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nah

clear pulsar
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When in reality 15% vers with 40k hp is tankier than 30% vers with 38k hp.

mellow coyote
clear pulsar
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It's just basic math broski

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40 / 0.925 vs 38 / 0.85

mellow coyote
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I havnt pvpd since pvp power LOL

junior plover
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Versa% only matters when comparing 2 characters of equal ilvl

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thats why im assuming people initially started asking for it

mellow coyote
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Hmmm makes sense

junior plover
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but then clueless people started parroting it

mellow coyote
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Yeah I see most pugs you need 20%+

junior plover
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I mean if they only take 220+ 20%+

clear pulsar
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Ok so 38k with 30% vers vs 40k with 15% was a bit of an exaggeration

junior plover
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good for them

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but i bet they'd take a 210 20%+

clear pulsar
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But 40k with 18%!!!

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That's tankier

junior plover
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Hey face whats your take on sak vs vers tho

clear pulsar
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I think it depends on your region

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Since I'm brazilian I like vers

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If you're from Sugondo then

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You sugondese bro?

junior plover
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you win this time

clear pulsar
junior plover
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I got fuji that's all that matters

mellow coyote
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Guess I'll play some low versa game if I feel like I'm dying just up it

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But I am like 40k plus hp with 15ish% so should be fine

junior plover
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Unique think about versa tankiness

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vs stam tankiness

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is that technically after you take your first point of damage

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stam tankiness requires a heal

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and so it requires mana and or a global or whatever

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its easier to top off someone with higher vers

pallid vessel
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speaking of stam tankiness, i fought an aff lock holy priest yesterday and the lock had 48k hp, was truly fucked

green valve
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Think bear form helps too, i get absolutely dumpstered on lock without vers but druid i run a few pve pieces and feel way tankier

mellow coyote
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so you're saying I should stack versa now?!?!

junior plover
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but the difference is rather negligible

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just stack ilvl

mellow coyote
clear pulsar
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Idk the big heals that top you always overheal by a lot

junior plover
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That's true as well

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I was thinking dampen

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scenarios

clear pulsar
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Win before dampen

junior plover
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truth

clear pulsar
junior plover
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Why will no one play kitty cleave with me

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I need one of you guys to reroll arms

clear pulsar
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Play the better meleecleave

junior plover
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and report back to me

clear pulsar
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The walking shred

junior plover
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what the fuck

green valve
junior plover
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That's the best comp name

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i'

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ve ever heard

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Wish it was real

clear pulsar
green valve
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So good

junior plover
pallid vessel
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the first game i ever played as feral in arena was against mcconnel and some r1 shadow priest

wise valley
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@clear pulsar careful bro he might dupe your voters and raise taxes

junior plover
pallid vessel
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i got fucking owned

stray sigil
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@junior plover meta

quiet raft
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so coming up to sludge progress

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whats the best cd usage

junior plover
stray sigil
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does it every ssn

junior plover
quiet raft
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shit

junior plover
quiet raft
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my b

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haha

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wrong channel

junior plover
stray sigil
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get out of my server NOW

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pve swine

surreal heron
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yours

junior plover
clear pulsar
junior plover
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my point stands

clear pulsar
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Idk just clarifying

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It was a weird reply

stray sigil
junior plover
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Yee no, thanks I thought he meant pvp meta

stray sigil
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not my fault u guys have subhuman iq

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get gud

junior plover
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posted LFG for kittycleave and hunters signing up

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do they have a kitty pet

blissful belfry
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i ThOuGhT hE mEaNt Dh MeTa

junior plover
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or what do they want from me

stray sigil
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invite him

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hes a warrior

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better warrior

junior plover
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I dont wanna play lfg jungle

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its a nightmare

stray sigil
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dw non lfg jg is a nightmare too

junior plover
clear pulsar
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Only with a night fae survival hunter

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Willy a clown full stop

junior plover
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My sub expired but I still have snupy's twitch emotes here snupySMILE

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cheaper than nitro

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would recommend

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I wonder if I keep them forever

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its happening

blissful belfry
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gow long til they replace you

junior plover
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Probably when they find out i suk at 3s

blissful belfry
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hehehe

stray sigil
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@clear pulsar every jungle kinda stopped qin around 3k

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def a shit comp atm

junior plover
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Win 1 game

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lose 1 game

clear pulsar
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Yeah need Necro with Circle and LI to unlock the true potential for sure @stray sigil

junior plover
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Now I remember why i dont lfg

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never again

blissful belfry
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hihihihi

junior plover
safe heart
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welcome to my life kiosk

hardy cargo
junior plover
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He left after he didn't bubble and died in a go from turbo kapthaw

hardy cargo
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Figured he died first even without full log

junior plover
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I can only imagine he was spamming the bop button in a HoJ

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and then when it didnt work and he died with trinket and bubble he got all mad

stray sigil
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team no peel

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gg

hardy cargo
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Was it an hpal?

green valve
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What else leaves after 1 game?

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Rest of the healers are just happy being invited

slow socket
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Maybe he was apologizing for his bad play?

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And left in shame?

karmic kelp
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I’ll take that over finding a disc, winning 9 games in a row with him, then he left without saying a word

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And here I thought I found my 2’s bae

pallid coral
pallid vessel
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tf did i just tune into? they were standing in their starting area and you guys were on the other side of hte map at 90% damp

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excellent victory tho

pallid coral
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it's not me

pallid vessel
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oh unlucky

pallid coral
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but yeah they were just afking for dampening

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for 13 minutes

pallid vessel
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lmao

lime light
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there wa some data in detail

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s

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so they fought for a bit

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i guess

hardy cargo
pallid vessel
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its absolutely heart breaking that i stopped playing at the end of legion and dont have tron cat form

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and theres no way i can ever have it

junior plover
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The fact that i dont have mage tower forms

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keeps me up at night

pallid vessel
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me too man

junior plover
pallid vessel
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honestly maybe im biased but i think they need to give druids the ability to get the mage tower forms

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it feels completely different than transmog weapons to me

junior plover
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They should just do a new mage tower every 2 expacs or so

pallid vessel
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we have no other transmogs

junior plover
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im fine with these forms being forever gone

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but gibst more options

pallid vessel
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i just can literally never have the best cat form and bear form in the game?

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ever?

hardy cargo
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Yes

junior plover
pallid vessel
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because i wasnt playing the game at one 2 month period?

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theres nothing else like that in the game

hardy cargo
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I didnt get mt either dw loll

wise valley
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Why u cryin

junior plover
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Put mage tower transmogs on bah

hardy cargo
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Go in debt for that sweet blue cat

junior plover
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I think that's a really fine compromise given every other item in a similar category gets that treatment

wise valley
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Got guardian and feral MT never useneither šŸ‘

junior plover
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If boomies had special boomkin forms from there

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it'd be on bah

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blizzard is literally

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racist

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fuk u

hardy cargo
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Maybe just something that uses the same model? Idrc abt tints

pallid vessel
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yeah agreed, keep the tints special who cares

junior plover
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I need one of you guys to go to blizzcon next year and ask that question live

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will cat and bear mage tower appearances get added to black auction market house

pallid vessel
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if it were a transmog weapon or gear set its whatever let people be special, but as a druid its your entire character

junior plover
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Yeah its kinda wild too because

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no other class in the game gives a shit

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Who gives a shit about some artifact wep appearance

pallid vessel
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yeah they're cool but theres thousands of other weapons in the game

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we can pick from like 4

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and the best one is permanently unobtainable

narrow iris
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hey is there such thing as too much vers lol? im running 27 and it feels fine atm

junior plover
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No

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you want vers as main stat on every piece

last jackal
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wtf, arena skirmish queue rekt my random bg queue pft

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popped at the same time

narrow iris
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at this point ive only got a 220 belt that doesnt have verse main so it looks like close to 30 is the cap more or less

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oh i spose both my weapons have verse as secondary

green valve
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And add cosmetics to ghast

junior plover
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Just add more stuff to Twisting Corridors

junior plover
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It's in the area of 31-31.25

blissful belfry
junior plover
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Because you don't deserve it you play the cursed class

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spec*

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Reroll kitty noob

blissful belfry
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boomy is bis

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i should honestly go feral

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my name is literally Big cat in french

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and i play owl

junior plover
deft tapir
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gross shat

junior plover
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All these fake cats in my feral channel

blissful belfry
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its fuji's feral channel

deft tapir
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sir this is a wendys

junior plover
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@blissful belfry bro you even have a cat picture

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how dare ryou

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next thing you tell me @deft tapir here is also owl

deft tapir
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fuck that lol

junior plover
deft tapir
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I'd die of brain rot playing boomy.

green valve
deft tapir
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they've got like 5 buttons

placid mirage
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CATTE

wise valley
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is the point of torghast to do the highest u can

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i just tried a floor 3 of one and got fucking wrekt

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or do u just spam the easier ones for soul ash

placid mirage
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U have to do layer 8 of the two wings each week for 500 ash

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You only get rewards for a layer once so u can't spam layer 1 over and over

wise valley
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Whack

placid mirage
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570 ash each

wise valley
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ok

blissful belfry
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torghast is so faceroll tho

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sealth, to end, covoke boss, ascend, stealth convoke ascend.

blissful belfry
manic radish
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twin moons in rbg? or stellar drift

turbid jolt
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Twin

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You shouldn't be using starfall

manic radish
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what? really

turbid jolt
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Really

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Ap is for surge on kill targets

manic radish
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is there any rbg guide for boomkin specifically?

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in terms of conduits, talents etc

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found it in pins nvm

wise valley
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pins

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always pinms

hollow token
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Any experienced guardian Druid FCs?

Having a lot of trouble finding up to date info on guardian FC online and I had some questions

tropic schooner
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should probably ask the question instead of asking about the question, would get better results

junior plover
weak hinge
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@hollow token sleeper, brambles, stand on flag not far away to def spot. what questions do you have?

hollow token
weak hinge
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use sleeper and when incarn is on CD use barkskin

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u can swap gear in rbg

hollow token
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ahh just swap the items out

surreal heron
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cc immunity is invaluable

hollow token
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otherwise just wear the 10% increase on barkskin leggo?

weak hinge
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yes.

hollow token
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that actually makes a lot of sense. thanks

weak hinge
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but dont forget to equip sleeper again.

undone nexus
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Does anyone know for boomkin can running Boomkin/Frost DK/Rsham work for 3s comp, looking at other potential comps

wise valley
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@stray sigil curio actually good?

weak hinge
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@undone nexus comp is good to cheese. AOE, Root, Cap totem

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supatease has a vid on it i think. its pretty good meme content

blissful belfry
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just gotta make sure your shamman doesnt root the healer for no reason when you have rootbeam comin

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dun wanna dr it

undone nexus
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Awesome thanks! Yeah its been hard to figure out our arena push comp since my teammates mains+specs don't match mine lol. But will keep on testing it out!

errant blaze
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Stat prio for fc guardians? Haste vers?

weak hinge
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idc. whats best def stats?

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mastery vers?

finite kraken
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how korayn feel?

tulip falcon
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you only need sleeper

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NoW isn't needed or worth swapping

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people will cc when incing as opposed to killing and you sorta need sleeper for kiting

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so natural order's will doesn't seem that useful and i wouldn't want to get stuck in combat with it on when i could have sleeper

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you will generally have incarn for every offense go on flag maps since 2.5 min cd isnt long

last jackal
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wow, sometimes i wonder if diminishing returns exists

eternal garnet
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Is jungle good with holy paladin? Friend does not play priest. Probably only going for 1800 so we should be fine?

frosty shard
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Hpal/arms/feral=kitty Cleave

queen drift
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As kyrian boomkin, do you want to keep the Timeworn Dreambinder buff up all the time or just proc it when you burst?

turbid jolt
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Should usually be pooling and bursting right

stray sigil
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@wise valley yes better than sym imo

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prob the best overall lego if ur not gonna play skin lego

wind rock
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NF resto druids, what soublind do you use in arenas?

twilit siren
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so best way to kill guardian fc you trade most if not all long cds to force incarn, and go 2nd offense asap?

undone nexus
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Does feral/dk still work as a comp? Haven't seen it much on ladder

real spire
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Feral gearing to try boom, researching weapons how do I decide whether to fish around for one 2-hander or a 1-hander and offhand?

blissful belfry
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you think whichever you have at highest ilvl

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the only way to ''target'' one is by farming some m+, but gear in m+ is bad. But if you still wanna do it, i guess you're better off farming a 2h, at least you dont need to get 2 pieces

weak hinge
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@wind rock dreamweaver is cool for soothing 2 def 2 potency

ripe folio
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fellow nightfaes, are you tired of shifting out of your active form because soulshape hides it? worry not, this macro should save you a global cooldown or two

#showtooltip Moonkin Form
/use [noform:7]Moonkin Form
/cancelaura Soulshape

wind rock
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Thanks

real spire
tardy hare
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Yes

real spire
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Can’t stand m+ lol, pvp and raid is my jam

primal bane
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is there a truly afk honor farming method?

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like only activity would be requeuing?

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oh yeah

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like earth shield myself

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and fight a frost wold

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going bear form vs a frost wolf probs has same effect

half forge
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Stellar Drift in rated BG's?

narrow iris
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You should save ap for priority kills imo. I don't ever really cast starfall in rbgs

civic rapids
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is necrolords with circle as cat any good rn? havent been playing my cat since first weekšŸ˜…

half forge
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@narrow iris do you recommend Fury of Elune as well or do I take Solstice?

narrow iris
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I take fury generally but solstice is usable in rbgs

half forge
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ill do solstice then, kinda scared of fucking that up in my first rbg's^^

edgy shale
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drop moons on em

junior plover
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since there's a necrolord buff coming then

gloomy token
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3rd wall coupled with a shield pog

wraith ember
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Looking to spend extra soul ash, what are some fun legos for rbgs? any spec is good

junior plover
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I dont think it will

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but necro druid got buffed too

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I think necro shield couldve been fine if the soulbind didnt give it cc immunity lol

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Imagine youre a resto druid and you fail to bait kick

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you get kicked

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you just press it lol

viral spade
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hey fellas, does anyone know a rbg guardian guide to get started?

wraith ember
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legacy of the sleeper run flags, if its not a flag map go mid and spin for team

viral spade
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legacy for everything defend?

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like bases?

wraith ember
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you can run most legos if your not on flag, but defending a base a guardian can be difficult unless there is lots of fighting on it

viral spade
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currently, i am solo base defending or anti tapping on other maps

wise valley
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does alliance usually win ashran?

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aight

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LMAO i found a skeleton with 6k hp that just hits 100

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im tank rn so i can outheal it

gloomy token
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I yell at people to spam dispel the tree or ogre

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But alliance never gets the ogre

wise valley
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i rmember winning every ashran we did when i was on ED with a guild premade

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back when ED took world bgs seriously just farmed honor non stop

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@vestal citrus good strats tyvm might make capping honor bearable

tulip falcon
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use sleeper for everything you're playing guardian on

wise valley
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so whats up with the 3 champs in the home base i get to pick

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for the conduit thingys

gloomy token
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They're like talent trees

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You can swap between them in rested areas or with tomes, and you can socket conduits into the empty spots

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Changing sockets costs one of the little gem things on the bottom right under your conduit list

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You get them back once a day

wise valley
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hm

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ty

gloomy token
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One at a time

wise valley
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damn they beat us in 11 mins

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really well played

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560 honor though LMAO

viral spade
wise valley
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yeah like prep dinner

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self heals count right?

verbal fractal
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What talents are other boomies running for rbgs?

wise valley
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pins

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i miss wintergrasp

verbal fractal
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@vestal citrus Thats what I thought Im just gonna swap from fury of elune to Solstice

wise valley
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wait wtf there are no mobs in WG

verbal fractal
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Yeah I also like the spread pressure of my dots and with Boat they should crank when I hit an eclipse

wise valley
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we attacking

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and getting beaten quickly

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ima just stealth auto slow walk into a wall

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does that work?

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yeah the orc soldiers die real quickly i suppose i could just stand there though

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20 horde vehicles and 2 alliance

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attacking is really shit

errant blaze
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I wonder if korayn might be worth with the +25% crit thingy for two’s with either a rogue or healer so you get plenty of restealths

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For boomie

thick minnow
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doesnt work like that

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you get it once

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and tahts it

errant blaze
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Oh 😦

thick minnow
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same with the 3% damage thing. doesnt work on dots

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and only works on DPS spells

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korayns last row is literally useless 99% of the time

errant blaze
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Ok šŸ™‚

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Face the foes is pretty decent tho right? But i guess its not worth loosing the niya mastery for, even if burrs is pretty shit

thick minnow
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if you're pressing a damage ability every GCD and the target is facing you

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its a debuff placed on the enemy player that lasts 2 seconds. so if you get CC'd, it drops off

errant blaze
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Good point

thick minnow
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doesnt work on dots either

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and you usually die in a stun, so literally useless

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and the other one you cant move for 5 seconds and there's no buffer afterwards

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so also useless

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really sadge they made that row so awful mechanically

livid wasp
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im so damn sick of this game

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jungle is so bad this season

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every comp has a damn warrior and it makes it so fucking difficult to do anything

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so much mongo shit dps comps

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yes

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I keep goin 2.3k

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then next night again 2.1k

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then sometimes a good streak again to 2.3k

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then back

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fucking so tired of facing the same comps

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everything rolls jungle

edgy shale
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jungle clearly ain't bad, but I don't blame anyone for being frustrating playing against war cuz u gtotta work way harder

livid wasp
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I just wanna get glad and quit this shit expansion

edgy shale
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there always has to be a best class u know

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idk

safe heart
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paladin / war every game lol

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on the brightside so, its always the warrior's game to lose, since theyre being the metacuck

frosty shard
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Does this work against sap and blind

livid wasp
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and honestly you have to work just as hard at 2.1k mmr as at 2.4k mmr

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cause every opponent is a damn r1 gladiator

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and its so god damn tiring

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its true from my experience at least

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yesterday night I was 2.4k mmr now back to 2.1k

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and just keep losing

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I just wanna quit cause its ruining my mental wellbeing for good but I want that cool gladiator mount or ill regret it

placid mirage
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Is glad mount worth ur mental

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Season gonna be around a while anyways maybe take a week off

livid wasp
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yes

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might have to do that

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is it gonna be around for long tho

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ptr came out

placid mirage
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For half patch

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Afaik it's not anything close to a new season but maybe I can't read

tulip falcon
placid mirage
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Idk I spent a lot of time getting tilted at games and I don't think it was every really worth in the long run

tulip falcon
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i cant imagine pushing glad for the first time this ssn is good for anyone

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its one of the worst seasons i've ever played

placid mirage
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What's bad about it

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At like the 2.2-2.4+ level

livid wasp
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I was glad last season bfa it was easy

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compared to this at least

tulip falcon
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extreme imbalance and too much burst in the meta

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well overdue tuning for certain specs we are still waiting for

livid wasp
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haha noo just another 3% buff to warriors I bet

edgy shale
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is it really extreme inbalance compared to other seasons? i feel like there's al ot of strong classes

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the burst is def insane tho

tulip falcon
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i feel like the bursty meta makes the imbalance more obvious

edgy shale
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thats prob true

tulip falcon
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seeing like either hpala or disc every game is also stale already

edgy shale
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def stale healer meta

placid mirage
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Maybe now I have 2.4 in rbg I can try 2.4 in arena

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I peak almost 2.1k in 2s zz

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I do want to try boom/ele/hpal

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Just need to stop tanking my 3s rating queuing with random people who lfg in the skirms section

gloomy token
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Tfw just wanna play jungle with my mate but he's being a flog

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And won't craft his lego

tulip falcon
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i feel like the enjoyment for this season is just a retaliatory response to bfa dampen meta

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if you criticize it people just say "lool u want bfa back"

placid mirage
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I mean tbh I never want to play a game longer than 5min

tulip falcon
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like no there can easily be a middle ground

placid mirage
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Or like 6min

tulip falcon
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between both

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same but it can still be fast paced without being what it is atm

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it feels a bit extreme

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yea but unfortunately those specs make up so much of the ladder

wise valley
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@vestal citrus what are you capping mastery at

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pins say vers>mast.haste>crit

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whats preference for master or haste

edgy shale
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im gonna punch the next person who asks about 2ndaries capping

wise valley
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noted

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u aint gonna do shit

edgy shale
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where u at

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i weigh 160 pounds 6 ft im huge ill take u down

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i can bench press the bar

wise valley
#

thats what guns are for homie

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or bricks

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or ill tell my mom on u

edgy shale
#

bro ill tell my mom AND dad on u

wise valley
#

ill walk out of my crib with overalls and a hunting rifle

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@vestal citrus 1.1k honor from winning that glaive BG + all my timed honor gains

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900 for losing a 40 min bg

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wg*

forest kite
#

Hey to reach 2.4K do I need that macros? Mass root, mass root +beam,Cyclone,mighty bash(target, focus, arena 1 + 2 )?

livid wasp
#

you dont need any macros to reach 2.4k

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but theyre helpful

twilit siren
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rootbeam is nice

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do you need a macro for casting on your target though

forest kite
#

i actuall have cyclone (target, focus, arena 1 and 2), rootbeam (target, focus, arean 1 and 2), kick(target, focus, arena 1 and 2) but mostly im only using rootbeam and then also a focus bash macro if needed

twilit siren
#

is it rng who get trapped if you wc the target?

pallid coral
#

I kind of agree @tulip falcon I enjoy the pace of the game, but there's too much 1 ability one shots

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like getting hunted for 20k

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or combust meteor shit

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or rets entire toolkit

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I do think its much better than basically any of the BFA seasons

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yeah

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I think CDS for everything are too strong

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every class in the game + healers

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have too much throughput in CDs

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in both pvp and pve

tulip falcon
#

Yeah the core essence or "flow" of the gameplay is fine, it just needs to be toned down for some specific specs

pallid coral
#

Some comps I play jungle against and i'm like that felt like a sick game

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and then i queue into a ret warrior

tulip falcon
#

Also the reason why disc/hpala shines so much is because they have so many CDs to suit current meta

pallid coral
#

or an enhance ret or something

tulip falcon
#

shit like rsham/rdruid/mw has no big boi CDs to stop the oneshots atm

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so if burst meta was toned down it may make them a bit more viable by proxy

ebon vortex
#

rsham have link and ascendance at least

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and grounding for magesd

tulip falcon
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yea which is why they still see some play compared to the other 2

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but not nearly as much as hpala/disc

edgy shale
#

i enjoy it cuz im feral, but 22k-25k bites prob aren't okay either lol

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"i sure hope this bite crits and 1 shots him"

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maldiva was complaining bitterly about feral yesterday "wow so much healing, and he just crits me for 20k". im like dam there's really ppl out there btiching about feral

ebon vortex
#

theres a lot of annoying off-healing rn tho lol

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off-healing feels way stronger than it was in bfa

edgy shale
#

for sure, offhealing def feels strong early xpac. by 8.3 when u have liek 400k hp a 20k offheal aint shit

ebon vortex
#

fukin word of glory is the worst offender

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at least the other classes heals cost mana

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resto needs a damage buff too imo]

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after master shapeshifter was gutted

chilly current
#

what do you guys stack behind vers in rbg's as boomy?

ebon vortex
#

my favourite game this season was when we queued into 3 boomkins

edgy shale
#

yeah strength of the wild is kinda dumb for healing i guess

#

haste mainly unaboomer, but some mastery can be nice too

distant crypt
#

Tree Form worth it against double DPS 2s over SOTF?

edgy shale
#

ask lakerz for more info

edgy shale
#

glyph really doesn't wanna let my 30k FM mastery build live

tiny oar
#

Tree suxks never play it

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Sotf is more consistent throughput and also more burst healing lol

#

Yea I queued a few games into axtin and circada as arms rdruid and they just kited the whole game healed with instant regrowths

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I just ran hotw master shapeshift feral and my warr had to play double time to just w key axtin the whole game

last cliff
#

So if swiftmend Leggo still requires a rejuv, why is it good? I'm using Oath atm and I feel like the affinity passive portion alone makes it almost better than any other leggo. The lifebloom leggo seems like it could be really good with a heavy haste build.

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Cause sure it doesnt consume a rejuv, but that means in pvp you miss out on one rejuv tick if you re apply it the global after swiftmend? Like it doesn't increase throughput that much at all right, basically it improves mana efficiency?

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129% base movespeed seems WAY more worth it in 2s and even having 49 yrd spells with moonkin affinity also seems better than having to re apply rejuv everytime.

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Also as necrolord the HOTW procs from oath, with master shapeshifter, one use trinket, and conduit buffed adaptive swarm makes my cat bleeds actually huge.... I just cant see why Swiftmend leggo would be better than that.

clear pulsar
#

Draught is better dmg if you want dmg

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And also better healing if you have double rejuv on a single target

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Barkskin leggo is better survivability if you need that

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Verdant doubles the value of cenarion ward, and yes mana efficiency, dumping swiftmends after overgrowth you dont have to reapply hots for over 30 seconds.

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Also extendes adaptive swarm

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Giving u much better uptime on it on healing

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On whats basically a 30% buff to everything but swiftmend

last cliff
#

But the extra movespeed with Oath seems invaluable with feral affinity, that with tireless pursuit means I can hop on and put of travel form and get 2 globals between, and outrun ANY MELLE

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That amount of mitigation seems like it would "outheal" any of the other leggos + healing benefits

clear pulsar
#

Ok.sounds good

last cliff
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I mean no?

clear pulsar
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Keep using that if u like it

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Its not gamebreaking to use one leggo or another

last cliff
#

I'm just looking at other leggos, and theorycrafting. Drought seems possible good, which are you using primarily?

clear pulsar
#

Well no

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I told u whqt makes verdant good and u got back with YEAH BUT OATH IS GREAT

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Sounds like u just want to keep using oath then

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I use verdant almost everytime I heal, sometimes barkskin leggo

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I did craft oath and particularly dislike it

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But i have no good reason to try to convince you not to use it

last cliff
#

What's your season high rating in 2's and 3's?

edgy shale
#

lol

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why is that always ppls first thought

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oh, u disagree? whats ur rating bro

clear pulsar
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Lol are you trying to reason with rating? Look up the ladder every rdru above 2.4 runs verdant.

edgy shale
#

whoever has higher must be right

clear pulsar
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I'm 2.1 cr in both but only play resto occasionally

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Only if I have a particularly nice mage for 2s or something

last cliff
#

It's just worth asking.... its not that I disagree, just want to make sure its credible.....

clear pulsar
#

Drustvar.com look up resto legendaries at any rating cutoff you wamt

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Want

last cliff
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Word, thanks for the resource!

clear pulsar
#

Oath is bis for mog farming tho FS_MonkaPoggers

last cliff
#

šŸ˜‚

queen trench
#

Circle of life and death actually viable for boomy pvp?

#

Feels very underwhelming

edgy shale
#

they were talking resto its butt for boomy

queen trench
#

F

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Even RBG low value?

clear pulsar
#

Circle is pve resto and feral

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For rbgs people usually run mother tree

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Or keep verdant

tiny oar
#

Yea look up kubzy flip minpojke any r1 rdruid is using verdant vekst

clear pulsar
#

@tiny oar i crafted oath bro had to do it

queen trench
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Mean for boomkin šŸ™‚

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Think it was icy veins 'oh yes circle good rbg'

edgy shale
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its bad for boomy cuz boomy leggos are so much more broken than wat everyone else gets lol

queen trench
#

And i just bot brain did it

clear pulsar
#

Icy veins isnt generally good for pvp info

tiny oar
clear pulsar
#

For rbgs circle is just padding but not even good padding

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Boat or dreambinder still more dmg and more kill pressure

clear pulsar
#

But I had to go and use it just to test

queen trench
#

Any tips on starfall usage for 2s / 3s / bgs?

forest kite
#

1850 conquest seems like ALOT

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but then again, its alot of power too

crude minnow
#

Starfall is padding. Only reason to maybe use in rbgs is if you kill healers and are wiping the rest.

queen trench
#

@forest kite based on current cap you can actually get all slots minus two at 226+ just from conquest and boe.

forest kite
#

so do u suggest a weapon?

sacred path
#

Man I’m so bad Facepaw

tiny oar
#

Me too it's ok buddy

sacred path
#

Lol šŸ˜†

#

Hit 1600 as resto but I can’t find a consistent partner - back at 1500 rip lol

queen trench
#

Yea i got jebaited Glyph 😦

split timber
#

Guardian druids

#

Also do we get more damage to all pvp content or only related to bgs and arenas?

edgy shale
#

like world pvp? ya im pretty sure u still take extra damage

knotty cosmos
#

Hello there i wanna ask what conduits there are good for boomi in 2s and 3s cant really find anything about it
night fae :)

clear pulsar
#

@tiny oar dinoe broke my ankles last night

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Reminded me of watching ur plays brub

stray sigil
#

ngl i hope rdru dont get buffed too much

#

that is one cancerous healer to play vs

forest kite
#

Is niya best for pvp for nightfae feral?

clear pulsar
#

All 3 soulbinds ok

#

@stray sigil did u watch awc early games?

stray sigil
#

i havent watched awc no

edgy shale
#

yea i agree tho fuji. mw and resto are mad annoying when they're good. having a healer just kite ur CDs is frustrating as hell

forest kite
#

Niyas tool poison or burrs?

edgy shale
#

im happy for mw to be in the dirt

stray sigil
#

if rdru get mega op again

#

1min skin

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is not fun to play vs

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bark i mean

edgy shale
#

ya theyll prob run that leggo too and never die

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or something

stray sigil
#

everytime rdu is super strong

#

meta is dogshit

clear pulsar
#

Pikaboo played vs some team of rank 1s i dont remember who, maybe it was piff dipi, they were triple kyrian with mikanikos

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But not mikanikos with the stun reduc

stray sigil
#

i have played vs milakos mage

clear pulsar
#

They were mikanikos with the aoe stun proc at low hp

stray sigil
#

that stunned me

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was def

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no fun

clear pulsar
#

Yeah lmao

stray sigil
#

but bron

#

is giga useles

clear pulsar
#

Hilarious tho

stray sigil
#

feels like a giga dampening strat

clear pulsar
#

It was arms boomie hpal

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Triple kyrian

stray sigil
#

ya

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a damp comp

edgy shale
#

god that sounds annoying

twilit siren
#

is there a smoke bomb fade delay? friend's saying it allows for solo smoke flag cap sometimes

tiny oar
stray sigil
#

i think if melees werent as crazy i would have less of an issue with hpals

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btu rdu is def mega cancer to play vs

tiny oar
stray sigil
#

thats a nice way to say that dinoe is a psychopath

tiny oar
#

Ya p much lil wacky

stray sigil
#

just ur typical ego inflated r1 wow player

tiny oar
#

Hpal more toxic in 2s tho I feel like every game is just arms hpal every match takes 10m to win actually so damp it fries me

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Rather almost rather /afk it's so boring

stray sigil
#

how much of it is how strong hpal is

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vs how strong warrior is though

#

like hpal makes tanky classes

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unkillable

#

thats the whole problem

tiny oar
#

Yea like if I play arms rdruid into arms hpal I just have to play bear to damp hard enough to win it's just the most zz playstyle in the game.

#

Saw u fighting flop bear aff arms warr with smight and u just afked out before the game even ended right like its such a joke

tardy hare
#

For sure

stray sigil
#

ya we played graycen flop i think

#

just unplayable

#

or no ya ur right

#

was a lfg warrior

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some dog ass player

#

and its like unwinnable

#

like no matter what healer warrior is gonna be aids

edgy shale
#

hpal is dumb borken and annoying right now, but having a feral druid run away from u for 20 minutes is also annojying

#

i mean

#

resto druid

stray sigil
#

ya imagine rdu getting mega buffs

#

play guard aff every game

#

whi

#

pog

#

champ

#

rdru is just about playing like the biggest fword in the world

#

and tilt ur opponents

#

i legit cant play vs rdrus and not wanna kill myself

tiny oar
#

Lol

forest kite
#

Buy weapon or 3-4 offpieces?

stray sigil
#

atleast in 2s

forest kite
#

184 weap is what i have

stray sigil
#

its def not fun playing vs rdru when they are super strong in 2s

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weapon

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bear all game

tiny oar
#

Yea it's like almost perfect how it is atm but worried the rejuv n swarm buffs might put it a bit over the edge

stray sigil
#

i dont think rdru is that bad

tiny oar
#

Like swarm rejuvs just keeping ppl up infinitely

stray sigil
#

its just hpal is overtuned

tiny oar
#

Yea

stray sigil
#

i did start seeing more rdrus

#

and rshams now

tiny oar
#

Its like solid A tier along with disc n maybe rsham but hpal is so far ahead its crazy

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MLD was pretty toxic tho for a couple seasons in bfa tho for sure that shit was disgusting

stray sigil
#

inevitable destro buffs

#

mld back in action

hushed bluff
#

Destro buffs?

tiny oar
#

Idk why there aren't more destros idk man like chaos bolt fucking pumps even without dark soul now it's just not a .05s cast anymore

hushed bluff
#

I 3s with a destro

#

Alll the melee cleaves make it hard

#

Just play affliction then lol

#

Lol ya

tardy hare
#

Pretty sure this is the play ye

edgy shale
#

would u also run rB?

errant blaze
#

Yes thats what most destros are doing šŸ™‚ hitting 7-10k conflags is pretty fun :-p especially when its a follow up to a 20k cb :-p

#

Personally i swap between the cb legendary and cinders depending on matchup

stray sigil
#

disgusting locks in my server

#

glyph has infected u all

hushed bluff
#

Lol

errant blaze
#

Its fun playing destro, but then i log the boomie and it feels like a lock on steroids when you compare them

hushed bluff
#

How do you set up goes on feral destro

#

3s

#

Double coil, double stun, clone/maim?

edgy shale
#

yeah prob just same way u setup goes for like any feral comp. bash off target, maim kill target, cyclone off target or have someone else do it like a freezing trap / fear

#

double coil into bash off target maim kill target seems good

#

my lock is liek 56 im def gonna play it next

tiny oar
#

I'm gonna make my next rdru kyrian for feral memes

#

Big bites inc boys

split timber
#

I wanted to hear your tips for fast swapping between most of the forms. What are your key binds?

edgy shale
#

i have bear and cat on mouse buttons. it was very easy to get used to and i like it. i dont have a naga its just basic 2 buttons on side of my mouse

silver trout
#

Ctrl-E travel, alt-e moonkin, shift-e cat, mouse 4 bear, mouse 5 cancelform

kind hound
#

hi guys does PvP trinket set bonus affect damage reduction too?

edgy shale
#

no

kind hound
#

thanks, so I'm wearing cheat death trinket as tank in RBGs then šŸ˜„

clear pulsar
#

C cat, shift c bear, vice versa if already in cat form

tired crypt
#

does anyone know if you can hibernate xuen

royal belfry
#

When we can choose between haste or mastery on pvp gear, what is the best for a Night Fae Boomkin?

#

Alright thanks!

thorny yew
#

i heard a pala can like bubble or do some shield on us when we convoke so it wont get interrupted sorry for asking a stupid question but what spell is that and is that possible?

#

oooh damn i see thanks alot. Do i need to do convoke first and then he bubbles me during cast or it doesnt matter?

tired crypt
#

anyone know about my xuen question

half forge
lean bear
#

This is probably a commonish question so I apologise as I tried to search a little, I'm leveling my druid alt and plan on being only resto. I really enjoy the playstyle I see from MMarkers with convoke feral affinity but is this just a meme for 2s, especially with the upcoming necro buffs? I like fairly aggressive playstyles and I'm 2.3k on my holy priest main so I'm not awful, just wondering if I'd be setting myself up for failure not going necro

junior plover
#

Yeah, resto convoke is mostly a meme

#

If you want to be competitive and push for high rating, Necro is significantly better. Next patch the gap will be really big.

#

Also worth noting that when people have like 40k life and 30% vers, your feral affinity convoke will do maybe 40% of their life in a full maim

#

It just didn't scale too well

stray river
#

What does balance burst setup look like? I mean I know a lot of people just use a one-shot macro, but surely there's a bit more finesse?

grand valley
#

are the arena frames setup in a static way for targeting? like is the healer in 3's always arena 2?

lean bear
alpine matrix
#

so what the fuck do you do against shadow comp. i keep healer cloned and priest beamed but they just stall games and rot you to death. so dumb

tiny oar
junior plover
#

You play more of a support role that most healers play this season

#

Rake stun into cyclones

#

You still get up close and personal but you aren't really meant to do damage

tiny oar
#

Yea u need a rly livelord class to do a good amount of dmg with, like affi mage sp etc

junior plover
#

Idk about draught but even if it is decent damage i wouldn't really say it's worth it at all

#

Rdruids only strength right now is that they're impossible to pin down

#

Throwing that away for some bleed chip damage isn't worth it

#

Imo

errant blaze
#

Depends alot on the comp tho

#

For lock/rdruid 2’s fx the dmg is pretty crucial to finish the games

fresh estuary
#

I'm planning to craft draught for 2s and test it. I like the idea of it, I'm not sure if it has added value tbh

junior plover
#

Oh yeah in 2s

#

You can consider it in certain comps i agree

#

HPal or Disc would just fill that role better

#

But if you wanna play rdruid

#

Then yeah might as well

lean bear
#

Difficult to justify going something other than the swiftmend leggo I guess then?

clear pulsar
#

This bit about gear scaling people survive better whatever is all kinda bullshit tbh

#

Damage scales just as hard

#

Especially with vers in pvp being 2.8:1 rather than 2:1 for dmg:def

#

Necro is a significant single target healing buff yes

#

And so playing without it limits you to playing with livelord partners

#

But as you said, mmarkers does crazy shit and doesnt care

#

If you play good you win games

#

Just gotta find your moments to make it work

tiny oar
#

Yea swarmed extended cen ward is actually so insane

clear pulsar
#

Have you played with flourish yet lake?

tiny oar
#

Would be fun to have an alt rdruid that's convoke or sum other horseshit tho

#

Nah I swear that's trolling man

clear pulsar
#

Bro the cen ward is HUUUUGE

#

AS Flourish CW is 100% yuge

tiny oar
#

Even with 5% mast extra germ rejuv is just a flat 5% extra healing right idk

errant blaze
tiny oar
#

Flop said he wouldn't play it so I trust our boy frankie

grand valley
#

what is mmarkers?

clear pulsar
#

Yeah I know I really like germ too

#

A player

tiny oar
#

Rdruid convoker 2 be precise

clear pulsar
#

Bro if Tony wins tourney games as necro feral, you can play night fae resto and have fun and win games, just gotta git gud

#

This is the hill I'll die on

tiny oar
#

Yea

#

Just be a god

clear pulsar
#

That's cap

tiny oar
#

Yea 3k cr as an absolute brocc insane

clear pulsar
#

Also

#

First strike is dogshit btw

tiny oar
#

What is first strike lol

#

@clear pulsar I'm lvling a 3rd druid to play kyrian rdruid lol

clear pulsar
#

A night fae soulbind trait

edgy shale
#

tf lol i swear so many druid players have like 20 druids. dont u feel any slight desire to play a diff class?

#

druid is fun thoi

#

and so first strike really shit>?

clear pulsar
#

Honestly I kinda dont lol

#

Nah I just don't like picking up new things

#

And then playing dozens of games before it's instilled in my brain what buttons to press

#

First strike doesn't reset on dropping combat

#

So it's literally just a 5s per game buff @edgy shale

edgy shale
#

i knew pve ppl were saying that, but i was hoping it was diff in pvp but i already knew lol

#

just in denial

#

and ya I can understand that. ive been wanting to play ele but learning shaman from scratch just seems like such a pain in the ass

tiny oar
edgy shale
#

o thats a lot

#

u just out here leveling a lot of shit lol

tiny oar
#

Ye only main druid n pally have gear tho

edgy shale
#

holy paly?

tiny oar
#

Wog abuser feralsbadman

edgy shale
echo elm
#

hi any night fae balance pvper here? whats the best soulbind and conduits for pvp šŸ˜„

bitter harness
#

niya

#

conflux

#

fury

junior plover
#

Ive been trying to have fun with my monk

echo elm
#

thanks man

junior plover
#

but i'd really rather have a 2nd kitty

#

to have both convoke and kyrian

#

being a feral main is like being that awkward kid in higschool

echo elm
#

just play venthyr kity 4head

#

i actually think ferals are cool

junior plover
#

you get invited to a party (playing a good class), you go, try to have fun but you just end up thinking

echo elm
#

they have a higher skill cap

junior plover
#

"i'd rather be playing wow right now"

wispy edge
#

Sleeper for bear in feet slot?

clear pulsar
#

My hairline recedes 2 inches everytime I read someone saying feral's harder to play than other specs

#

Fucking snowflakes I swear to god

junior plover
#

feral is the hardest spec

clear pulsar
junior plover
tardy hare
#

I cant even play BM hunter

tiny oar
echo elm
#

oh im only saying that because im basic and succ

#

xd

lime light
#

@clear pulsar used to be ye, but its braindead now

tiny oar
#

yea

#

bite bite bite

#

🧠

junior plover
#

Biting requires very high iq

#

yall just jealous

rare junco
#

Does the vers bonus from the trink 2 set apply in duels?

errant blaze
junior plover
#

Ofc no class but feral

clear pulsar
junior plover
#

Was gonna say basically the same

#

Had some guy on reddit argue with me that the trinket set bonus doesnt work and never did

#

and that he spent hours testing it in bgs, arenas, target dummies

#

so I checked on target dummy and it worked

#

in warmode

clear pulsar
tiny oar
waxen acorn
#

What is most dmg in pvp - full vers (30%) or like 24% vers and 6% extra mastery ?

#

Only for convoke dmg

junior plover
#

1% vers - 1.4% more damage

waxen acorn
#

(balance druid)

junior plover
#

1% mastery - 1% more damage in eclipse

#

but I doubt you can trade 6% vers for 6% mastery

waxen acorn
#

And with starsurge being astral - double dipping... That would be 12% increased dmg on starsurge ?

junior plover
#

mastery % is harder to come by

waxen acorn
#

I can

junior plover
#

huh

#

No clue about starsurge tbh

#

kitty here

waxen acorn
#

Oke :D

#

Hmm i think it's almost equal...

junior plover
#

If it double dips and you only care about damageeee

#

then yeah looks like mastery

waxen acorn
#

I will test with warmode on with training dummt =)

foggy ravine
#

no

#

mastery only double dibs during CA

#

b/c one eclipse increases nature other increases arcane

#

so you only double dib when in both eclipses aka CA

rugged marsh
#

almost done with my conq gearing, but im curious which trinks I should get. For the DPS PVP trinket do I go Insignia or Badge? Badge replaces Haste for Crit, which is bad, but gives on use burst. Insignia has Haste but is a proc so it's random.

twilit lintel
#

Anyone knows of a keybinding guide for resto druid? A guide that would work well for all healers?

wise valley
#

Keyboards are preference

#

Cant really write a guide on ig

clear pulsar
#

If Bite is on 3 it actually does 30% more damage

#

It is known

errant blaze
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Well it is actually possible to give suggestions on where to place bindings, so that they are easy to reach. Talking in general for newer people, not sure that has been made yet šŸ™‚ like using 1-4 is better than using 1-9 etc as they are easier to reach n stuff

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Mby thats what he means? Inspiration on which kinda keybindings could be good

wise valley
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Its preference

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I can reach up to 8 comfortably

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Most cannot

errant blaze
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I agree, it depends alot on hand size šŸ™‚ but an ergonomic centeret guide might be usefull to some people to serve as inspiration, with suggestion to using an mmo mouse especially for ppl with smaller hands etc šŸ™‚

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Yea no way i can reach 8 comfortably lol

rapid linden
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Does anyone have a macro that uses Incapacitating Roar, but if Incapacitating Roar is on cooldown it just puts you into bear form?

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trying to tidy my macros up and abilities

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I have one that works with prowl, puts you into stealth but if stealth is on CD it just puts you into cat

tall knoll
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I use 1-6, q e r t f g x c v. Plus everything with shift as well. Maybe 2-3 with strg as well. Dont have a mmo mouse

tardy hare
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bite belongs on 3

versed coral
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Anyone see rudars vid trolling with full moon

simple wind
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what covenant is the best for boomie pvp? still nightfae?

hardy cargo
simple wind
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im looking for a covenant in which i can play resto/boomie offspec both in arenas

hardy cargo
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Nightfae then

junior plover
hardy cargo
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Necros best resto pvp but questionable for boomy. Kyrian is best for boomy but pleasedontbeakyrianresto

simple wind
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yh xD

junior plover
hardy cargo
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If you do any pve as resto you'll want nightfae

junior plover
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to bind kitty abilities

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everyone knows that

hardy cargo
simple wind
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well im almost all pvp

junior plover
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on T

simple wind
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since this expansion allows it ā¤ļø

junior plover
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The rake one is weird I'll admit

hardy cargo
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Kiosk what the fuck

tulip falcon
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you'll hate my binds then

hardy cargo
tulip falcon
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i have my normal abilities on 1-4 then finishers on shift +1-4

junior plover
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Thats fair too

hardy cargo
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But if you commit to either fully might want to switch to their best cov

tulip falcon
hardy cargo
tulip falcon
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sue me

junior plover
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The weirdest of my binds

hardy cargo
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Just on of your main bleeds is on T?

junior plover
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is that I have cooldowns on Shift1-4

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but Shift2 is Thrash

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dont ask

tulip falcon
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te fuck

hardy cargo
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T is my travel form bind lol

junior plover
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I

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I'll change it some day

errant blaze
junior plover
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i was just thinking alternate swipe

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and swipe is 2

stray sigil
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bite belongs on 4

tulip falcon
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is shift 4 fine

tardy hare
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this warrior in my 1300 mmr rbg just got angry cause i asked him to defend my base instead of walk around the map so i could win the game for him

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and hten asked

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"is this how people start to act when they get 1600?"

junior plover
tulip falcon
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ye bro big elitist challenger players

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pfft

tardy hare
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ruining thier experiences

tulip falcon
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sorry not everyone can be a god at pvp!!

tardy hare
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winning these people their games 1v10

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they still get angry!?

tulip falcon
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u think they know what happens in the game outside of their 180 degrees of vision on their screen

pallid vessel
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the only objectively correct keybind is interrupt on F. i will never be swayed from this

tulip falcon
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my interrupt is on r

pallid vessel
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anything that could be considered a typo of f i think is reasonable

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so ur good krassz

junior plover
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I get that

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I remember distinctly when I chose F for kick

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I thought

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I need a key next to WASD

tulip falcon
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f is my tigers fury

pallid vessel
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i love talking about binds man

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ive got some weird ones

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ive historically always had my main rotation on mouse wheel, since like wrath.. nobody does that