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rich flicker
So, quick question, I’m having an incredibly hard time dealing with warriors at 1900+ mmr - how can I handle their insane mitigation / dmg output as feral? Is there any play making potential I can do there?
sacred cipher
Hey guys new here, played feral in word, and enjoyed it, but I'm trying guardian in pvw and really enjoying it, kinda wanna try PvP with guardian at some point.
Is it troll or is guardian a viable PvP spec?
clear pulsar
Guardian is a very good FC in rbgs
It's not really any good and makes the game very unenjoyable for everyone else involved in arena
sacred cipher
Oh I've heard about that, I was more wondering about arena and such, I remember struggling a lot as a DH against guardian
clear pulsar
Generally speaking it would be preferable if you can play boomie in non-flag maps
Yeah uh
Guardian in arena is quite something
Something I /spit on of course
sacred cipher
Is it still decent? I haven't played since BFA so
sacred cipher
Wait is that what people do? Go balance affinity and use that? That's kinda cheese 🤣
Convoke is that one that casts like 15 spells right?
clear pulsar
Ngl bro
I just want to
Spit spam and teabag every guardian druid in arena
God bless if you're tryna get it done that way
No one really has any resources to help you out on that, maybe Pumps
sacred cipher
And and me and my friends started again recently and we've all ended up on different spec druids, I'm guardian and they're balance and resto, would that make a decent 3v3 team?
vapid crane
trying to relearn resto
clear pulsar
But I'm sure you could get whatever rating achievement if you stuck together and improved as a team
sacred cipher
Oh cool then and yeah I hate mage rogue
vapid crane
went from 2k mmr to 1670mmr at one point today
its been rough
Closer i get back to 2k the more mage rogue there is 
edgy shale
So, quick question, I’m having an incredibly hard time dealing with warriors at ...
its hard to answer this question cuz warriors are just kinda bs for feral
sleek gorge
viscid quest
Which slot is better for verdant infusion?
Shoulder or hands?
Also vers/haste > vers/mast?
clear pulsar
Shoulder and hands have the same stat budget
Yeah I think most people prefer haste as resto
stray sigil
k we taking out axtin
with bt curio
the dream is no longer a dream
@clear pulsar
stray sigil
it is a reality
clear pulsar
StreaM?????
clear pulsar
I'm doing some random bgs for renown catch up
Just constant
12k bites
20k crits
Thanks for showing me the way brother @stray sigil
Will be even bigger when I unlock 2nd potency
And play ww feral disc
vast vapor
trim moth
Kyrian representing
wise valley
what covenent for feral?
stray sigil
kyrian
wise valley
do you have to compelte all zone questlines on your way to 60 to unlock whatever goodies?
cus im almost done with bastion and 55 rn
next lynx
i wouldnt bother with any side quests in the main storyline
you have to do the entire storyline either way, and the storyline itself will get you to 60
ur probably gonna hit 60 in ardenweald now though lol
forest kite
really cant decide as kyrian if BOAT or timeworn is better.
wise valley
main quest is the new ! mark shit right?
next lynx
yes
clear pulsar
^ as you can see, kyrians are assholes
stray sigil
ur a man of culture
wise valley
im betting arthas kills sylvanas(again)
wise valley
silver hair daddy
edgy shale
are ther ever times u wis hu had sym, or r u just liek fuc kit
literally never want sym or FF ever again
stray sigil
hmm not really
its just on non bash goes
i have less dmg output
cuz i have to maim
clear pulsar
Big plays
small storm
waoh
pine hawk
What soulbind should I go if I swap to kyrian for this bt/curio madness?
edgy shale
how many people will fuji corrupt...
stray sigil
kyrian is def bis for bt
u can make it work with convoke
but like
its so much guaranteed dmg
@edgy shale wdym corrupt
i showed the people the light
clear pulsar
Pelagos is the only decent soulbind rn
stray sigil
3rd one is giga trash
dont even try it
i did and i will never again activate it
2nd one could be nice in some cases
like maybe rogue mage or like jungle mirrors
but if they dont go u idk pelagos so good
green valve
tiny oar
Get that bread f2f
stray sigil
@clear pulsar rbgs?
clear pulsar
Yeah needed 2 for 3rd vault unlock
stray sigil
feral i hope
clear pulsar
gloomy token
Tfw have to wait for reset to enter maximum meme mode
Missed r4 draught by 900 soul ash
gloomy token
Necro cat only needs 2
Circle for m+ and draught for making one guy regret his life choices
That one guy is me
Might get NoW if i get overly memed
tough basin
what's this feral kyrian BT thing?
was seriously considering a swap abck to night fae for the convoke
stray sigil
setting up what
u like open rake thrash brs
boom 2 stacks of bt
get 5 cp
bash
kyrian/badge/tf bite
20k bites all day
thats like the small goes
then u have the zerk go which is the same but u just get hella bites for 15k+
ur "bad" bites are gonna be like 8-10k
edgy shale
he's trying to eliminate the feral competition
tiny oar
edgy shale
drifting burrow
stray sigil
gloomy token
We bleeds
faint wolf
Good resource for Resto PVP Gearing/Soulbinds etc? Don't see one pinned
unique forge
Can anyone explain how kindred spirits works if i'm a resto druid who choses to bond with a dps? reading the tooltip is so damn confusing and i don't want to reroll only to learn that i hate it.
if it boosts their damage and then give me more damage, i'm thinking that would be super powerful for an aggressive catweaving play style. No?
kindred dragon
I have fun in BGs and think I’m doing okay then I look at pally damage and healing and wonder why the hell am I still playing rdruid.
tough basin
if it boosts their damage and then give me more damage, i'm thinking that would ...
gives you more healing and them more damage
unique forge
and it's relative to how much damage they do // healing i do?
the more one of us pumps, the more the other is buffed?
edgy shale
why kyrian resto?
stray sigil
@clear pulsar u know whats hilarious
i qd into bean and popped his hunter at 60% hp
next game he gets to 60 again sees me pop my shit insta turtled
was wild
unique forge
why kyrian resto?
I'm just curious if it would be viable for an aggressive cat weaving play style. I also like the option of being able to hop between specs and still be viable for each if i want to.
tough basin
you'd prob be better off with night fae
for catweaving
strong burst cd that can do some solid damage
also gives you an ohshit button for healing, tho much easier to kick
edgy shale
I'm just curious if it would be viable for an aggressive cat weaving play style....
binding sum1 else doesn't really work out ye
in pvp
vale phoenix
can anyone recommend some solid feral pvp resources?
rigid linden
Energy and combo piints
Are good feral resources
Sometimes mana
HEHEHHEHEH IM A FUXKHEADDDDD
tardy hare
Fried.
pallid berry
Any Restos doing Rated BGs? Trying to figure out if I should pick up Circle or Verdant for my leggo. I'm leaning Circle because it'll help on M+, too, but Verdant Infusion sounds solid.
exotic wolf
build both 
pallid berry
eventually. Just looking for a recommended first
edgy shale
are either of those usable in m+?
novel sky
Mother tree is pretty good in m+
edgy shale
hello
tardy hare
No.
lime light
😠
split timber
Guardian druids your legendary for wpvp and rated bgs
tulip falcon
Guardian druids your legendary for wpvp and rated bgs
sleeper for rbg
i'd imagine it'd be decent for world pvp as well?
surreal heron
sleeper for FC and NOW when inbetween
edgy shale
I still wanna see a guardian go the thrash legendary and just thrash people
own team fightys
tulip falcon
I still don't rate NOW that much
surreal heron
Now means?
The Natural Order's Will
tulip falcon
like swapping to it when incarn on cd is fine
split timber
Thanks
edgy shale
now is a great multipurpose craft if u play other specs too
edgy shale
im straight up torn between sym, curio, now, sleeper, boat, DB. druid is so cringe, so many leggos i need.
stiff geode
what leggo bis for pvp or even matter?
edgy shale
wat spec are you
stiff geode
balance
edgy shale
if ur kyrian prob dreambinder and if ur NF boat/DB
stiff geode
im nf what missives?
edgy shale
vers of course for pvp, then mastery/haste are both good. u need haste to get urself into eclipse and to get clones off, but mastery is big dam
i stack mastery over haste cuz when i play boomy its rbgs and im tryin to bring the burst dam
stiff geode
word ty bud
edgy shale
split timber
but if you're guardian only you'll want sleeper for anything pvp related
Can u also do good in wpvp trying to kill someone?
pallid fox
can me and 2 friends make feral/affli/disc work in arena?
tulip falcon
i wouldn't know I wouldn't wpvp as a tank
but I'd imagine you could
cc immunity also comes with 25% damage increase
edgy shale
ya if u wanna wpvp feral is easily the best spec in the game for it
edgy shale
yeah wpvp is always fun. I'll occasionally just mess with people. the combination of movespeed, stealth, damage, heals, cc.
tulip falcon
my bags are full of wpvp items still when i havent done it since early bfa idk why
i have triple stealth detect potions i'd stack and see other stealthers from like 20ft away
edgy shale
tahts pog
split timber
i wouldn't know I wouldn't wpvp as a tank
Is is just nice to open as feral and then turn to that monster
edgy shale
blame alliance
split timber
If u make them believe that can kill u as cat the more likely u will kill them when u turn to bear
tulip falcon
i remember i hated a bounty in early expac and i had a 40 man raid group trying to kill me
i camped in that one base with OP guards
edgy shale
yeah, go gettem
split timber
And I also guess convoke.
tulip falcon
i got the boat removed in the vol'dun base
edgy shale
not getting cc'd for so long must be so fun
edgy shale
lol
ur prob camping cope
the one dude who stays on trhe same character while getting cmaped
tardy hare
I would
The feeling when they add you to rage at you
Fantastic
The way they send their friends towards you
Only for them to die aswell
tiny oar
tardy hare
Dopamine overload
tardy hare
They die alone
lime light
😠
edgy shale
tiny oar
Sad
tulip falcon
they go into group finder and phase
lime light
XD
edgy shale
wat do u expect from a monk player
tulip falcon
bro world pvp had mad beef back when i remember
listen to the anger in this guys voice
as his entire raid kills me
edgy shale
"scrubnub stupid albanian" what
tardy hare
Ahahahaha
tulip falcon
this guy is like a well known meme in eu world pvp
for bringing 2 full raid groups to fight anyone
or used to be
tulip falcon
him and his 40 man raid giving himself 5 fps
you can check his channel for more cringe
vivid tusk
how do we deal as feral vs monk/warr/heal, seems if i go with disci, disci gets obliterated all the time and i don't know what could have I done more for him, peeling as much, rooting, off healing, yet just all time getting crushed, thats at about 1750cr, 29%vers me and picking priests usually 25% +
edgy shale
safe heart
those classes just have heavy steady damage for like basically no reason, its a rough time
but i feel you, i find its hard to support my healer in between goes versus war / pal / ww
feels like youre spamming clones and roots and heals and its just doing nothing but delaying the end
white sun
any guide for boomie bg?
vivid tusk
it's very annoying, even in 3s is the same, you face like ret/warr/heal as either jungle or fmp, and you got to put 10x their effort and even with that you probably lose 80% to that
edgy shale
tian fights that fight everyday. don't u tian?
vivid tusk
so if not jungle these days, then what choice we got as ferals, fmp, lock/feral?
edgy shale
locks kinda suck
vivid tusk
but kinda hard to find mage to play with feral if they can go with ww or warr and have better results
vivid tusk
ye but he has mage mate, if you dont then trying to find a mage who is willing to give up ww/warr to play with feral is so hard
safe heart
lime light
rmx
safe heart
is this a joke
safe heart
prot warrior does 24k shatter?
edgy shale
rogue is always gonna be rogue, but i think feral brings more atm
lime light
rogue gives so much free space
for mage
no
sub gives u so much
rogue players says
no damgur
but rogue does enough dmg in goes
edgy shale
their damage is dumb but they also just die
lime light
ofc the dmg outside dance
is trash
ye, they die if they cant press their cd's properly
or mage forgot to bind ring db
polly
nova
if fmp was better than rmp
tony would never
vivid tusk
just feels that recently we as ferals are like a cheap connection between rogue and ww, and both of them are way superior
lime light
practise a rogue
edgy shale
yeah but if cds are down they cna't do damage, idk. i fuckin hate rogues so i don't really wanna argue against em anymore
i get ownd by em all the time
like defensive cds i mean*
tulip falcon
theres a reason why rmp has been a thing since forever
it just works together so well
and prob always will
edgy shale
rogue mage are always good in pvp yeah and almost always pve
pepega classes
im not saying rogue isn't good i just th ink feral beast. and there's no way rogue is way superior like decksio sasid
pallid fox
yo hey guys, me and 2 friends are leveling druid warlock and priest atm we want to play 3's is there a comp that fits? (i want to play feral)
tulip falcon
idk wod was pretty bad for feral
and some points in mop
in terms of how braindead it was
lime light
at least rip was doing something and was worth using it 
edgy shale
bro, be a draught gamer and ur rip ticks crit for 5k
tardy hare
Rake spam incarn pogg
tulip falcon
like wod feral was probably the dumbest has been
lime light
disgusting apes
tulip falcon
its the expac i saw the most people reroll feral too
tardy hare
I just want my claws of shirvallah glyph
lime light
bleeds are just aoe shit fiesta
edgy shale
wait waht do you mean tian? pve people want big bites?
tulip falcon
sure if its a glyph
tardy hare
Claws or shirvallah should be pickable option in barber
edgy shale
that row is so fucked for feral
tardy hare
:(
edgy shale
rake is a strong dot
tardy hare
No
edgy shale
stealth rake
tardy hare
I want wod model
tulip falcon
bro i dont want to be a worgen with a cat head attached
tardy hare
Its fantastic
lime light
tulip falcon
lmfao
tardy hare
Pog
tulip falcon
i couldnt play with it
lime light
i have all saved 🙂
tardy hare
Pog
tulip falcon
i used bloodtalons
lime light
again
tardy hare
Me.
tulip falcon
to not use it
lime light
tardy hare
Not me
tardy hare
Screen captured
junior plover
Back to this convo
junior plover
so rip will never do good dmg
All they'd need to do is reduce pw rip's damage
It's really not the reason
Or reduce the duration so much that you can only have like 50% uptime
Of pw
slim crater
Anyone here play boomkin spriest in 2's?
edgy shale
thats 2 people trying to play feral disc who misclicked their spec
slim crater
Thanks for the valuable input
edgy shale
anything I could say would prob hurt u more than help u, so im actually looking out for u by making a joke
candid moth
Anyone here play boomkin spriest in 2's?
I used to play it, but not in SL
I dislike 2s as of now, 50% of the games are warrior + heal and the other half is either ret or fmage oneshotting
ah yeah, and WW
junior plover
Anyone here play boomkin spriest in 2's?
No but I've played against it a bunch of times
It's really strong
Best boomie 2s comp at least when put against what I play
The double silence is extremely strong as a setup tool
candid moth
I can imagine it being pretty decent currently with long cc chains, you just have to play much better than anything you face
edgy shale
thats the story of double dps in 2s
junior plover
Yeah that's basically every non Hpal melee comp
candid moth
true
edgy shale
altho rogue mage doesn't seem that hard to just constantly have goes and perma reset. but those classes are hard and im not good so i can't really shit talk too muc
candid moth
with how tanky mage currently is, it doesnt take much skill
candid moth
its a scripted playstyle since forever, lots of videos and streams where you can learn it from
junior plover
Lost too many games to a good rogue mage because they forced our defensive or trinket without using anything
prisma yacht
altho rogue mage doesn't seem that hard to just constantly have goes and perma r...
Rogue mage is probably highest skill cap 2s comp
junior plover
Only to win vs rogue mage without even using trinket once
Same ratings
Legit my last game before 2100 i fat fingered trinket pre game
And we stomped
candid moth
the problem I see with rogue mage currently is, that mage used to be the weak link you could pressure. Now with how much they can endure with the shield legendary and alter time it is hard to pressure them inbetween their go's
edgy shale
MAGE NO DIE
junior plover
The last mage nerf helped quite a bit
candid moth
I have the most success with going for rogue most of the time but till you are through their immunities and mage peels they alreay forced everything
edgy shale
is it a conduit or the base skill that makes IB heal them for their entire hp
junior plover
Most games i try going after rogue but i end up killing mage in a rogue reset
prisma yacht
Rogue Mage is very easy to kill right now
edgy shale
i dont like it
candid moth
is it a conduit or the base skill that makes IB heal them for their entire hp
conduit
prisma yacht
is it a conduit or the base skill that makes IB heal them for their entire hp
Conduit, 80%~
edgy shale
i dont like it
prisma yacht
Well good mages don't even use it
junior plover
In 2s
edgy shale
lol look at u thinking it takes a good mage to cave my skull in
junior plover
It's good
junior plover
What's the alternative?
edgy shale
3s is too 5head for me
prisma yacht
I ran into 26 games in a row as mage vs either warr or priest
junior plover
prisma yacht
Why bother taking that conduit.
People usually run the blink shield + healing from shields
Mage /tree main for life.
junior plover
Idk i play with disc but we rarely get a reasonable mass dispell in rogue/mage off
prisma yacht
Mage is actually not good in 2s atm
junior plover
The rogue can always stop it
Yeah mage and rogue are both poop outside of rogue mage
prisma yacht
3s sure, pretty damn good. But 2s is meh
junior plover
In 2s
prisma yacht
Up to like 2k rating you'll have an easier time running mage with a ww or sp
junior plover
Rogue also poop outside of RMP in 3s
prisma yacht
Coordination is not a strong suit in low rating
candid moth
Mage is actually not good in 2s atm
hahahahahahahah
junior plover
I would never play rogue mage with a pug
But tbh i would never pug again
Just need more high rated friends now
So I can play different stuff
junior plover
hahahahahahahah
No I agree, I've been farming mages all the way to 2100
Whether mage healer or mage rogue
Mage spriest was okayish i suppose
candid moth
druid is pretty decent against mage, yes, but try anything else
junior plover
But if you don't play feral
That's your fault
Symmetry but I'm getting cat eye on wednesday
Altho maybe not since I think I'm going Kyrian today
Goodbye wild hunt
edgy shale
yeah see u bite
junior plover
Ye i bite but
prisma yacht
druid is pretty decent against mage, yes, but try anything else
Mage farms only warrs, monks and paladins atm
edgy shale
wait, why maybe not? curio+kyrian is the combo
junior plover
Bleeds kill post cauterize
prisma yacht
That's pretty bad imo
junior plover
wait, why maybe not? curio+kyrian is the combo
Wanna see what the symm fuss is about
Found it underwhelming in nf
If i like it I'll wait until legendaries cost less $$$
prisma yacht
Black Friday on legendaries?
junior plover
Hopefully
prisma yacht
Subscribe
edgy shale
o u wanna see the kyrian+sym combo before u commit to curio? fair enough
junior plover
Altho curio is on a ring and not leather
edgy shale
jewerlry tends to be cheaper as leggos tho, no?
edgy shale
idk ur server but it tends to be cheaper yeah
junior plover
Is dirt cheap
candid moth
Mage farms only warrs, monks and paladins atm
so pretty much 70% of 2s comps
junior plover
so pretty much 70% of 2s comps
You'd think
But warrior is super rare 1900-2200
Don't ask me why
Like 1 in 15 games maybe
Ret Healer? Never see it
candid moth
I would love to have those ques
junior plover
I'm assuming all of them are playing 3s
edgy shale
wtf? i was seeing war/ret out of the butt at ~1900
but i ain't been to the 2200 this season at all so i can't speak for that
junior plover
Idk personal experience
So probably wrong
Ret I commonly only saw with dps
And I'll take double dps any day
candid moth
its the most played spec in 2s https://www.xunamate.com/#/leaderboard/2v2
junior plover
Huh
candid moth
if you press statistics
I mean, 15% is hpally obviously but the most played one for DPS is arms with 11%
candid moth
I think it takes anything into account within 5k ranks, would need to double check
junior plover
Maybe all the arms took the free rating and got to 2137+ 
candid moth
well, at least they get their dmg buffed with reset 
junior plover
I mean
Already happened week 2
And the blue post was a rough draft not patch notes
So I'm not ruling it out
candid moth
True, lets wait
junior plover
Too bad really that they'll probably either give us all the changes or none of them
Because all but arms
On that list
And frost DK maybe
candid moth
its just that the last 10 years with blizz and their regards for pvp have made me bitter
junior plover
Was a nice change
candid moth
idk, the flat buffs are very lazy. They better fix pet rezz for classes who actually are dependent on them and tackle the real issues
than some 3% overall
junior plover
True
But they were hitting the correct specs at least
Coincidentally
Also any buff to survi jungle is welcome
candid moth
overall I like that they give us some piece of the cake again with a decent gearing system (which has flaws but better than spamming m+)
yeah true, their pvp fixes have been on point
could have used some more, especially ret dmg and the likes
junior plover
That is 100% coincidence tho
These were pve changes
If you go to warcraftlogs
Every spec on that list was below average dps
candid moth
I know
candid moth
look at this marvelous display of skill https://clips.twitch.tv/MushyNiceSoybeanThunBeast
junior plover
look at this marvelous display of skill https://clips.twitch.tv/MushyNiceSoybean...
I think in general the balance between healing done and damage taken is so skewed
There's really no way to fix the burst easily
junior plover
You nerf all the burst and the games take forever
edgy shale
lets buff 1 forgotten lock spec and notr the other hm
junior plover
Because healers heal for 150% from 1 ability
Gone are the days where moving as a healer was considered a disadvantage because you couldn't really heal on the move
You just insta heal for full life
But nerf healers and the sustained damage of arms and ww takes over
Buff player life and healers still heal to full on a single cast so dampen meta
edgy shale
sustained burst
candid moth
I mean, its similar to MoP in my opinion. Healer have been instahealing everyone with instants and you needed cc chains to overcome them
junior plover
What a meme that it's even still in the game
I don't mind wow being predominantly about cc'ing healer to secure kills
I feel like that's exactly the spirit of arena
edgy shale
its not a bad cd for paly tanks unironically
junior plover
The problem becomes when every team has a shit tone of offhealing or the meta healer can break cc 4 times in the span of 4 minutes
So you need insane burst otherwise the games go to 70% dampen
junior plover
Hot take
edgy shale
facts
junior plover
lime light
instants with long cds
edgy shale
i actually agree
junior plover
Yeah lay on hands
lime light
is good
junior plover
Yes
edgy shale
casters should cast. that includes mages. when did casters get to literally hop ar ound and spam 2 instants
fix this game!!!
junior plover
There's no way to make casters work in a meta this fast without some instant burst
lime light
like rn perfect state of healers are disc and rsham
disc has instants that heals
for full hp
junior plover
I am of the opinion that mage combustion is definitely in line with other specs at this point
lime light
but if do keep doing it
they are oom after 1-2min
rsham heals a lot with instants, but at some point u are forced to cast
junior plover
I think rsham is a little bit too Mana efficient
lime light
or to stay in earthen
lime light
thats not idea also
edgy shale
maybe the damage of combust is, and idk if it even is, but mage gets to get combust damage in like no matter what
so many classes get their cds kited
lime light
every team with hpal
vs team without
is unfair
and should be never won by the team without one
lime light
the class is broken in every aspect of the game
junior plover
Hpal is obviously unfair
lime light
and even an ape can play it
candid moth
A bunch of rsham and disc played at awc
but did they win?
lime light
disc is oom after 2 min max
junior plover
but did they win?
Got to finals
edgy shale
i thought rmp won today?
junior plover
lime light
and 2 min is not enough to get all of the cds from hpal
edgy shale
i couldn't watch
junior plover
Idk about awc 2
junior plover
It might've been winner finals
candid moth
wasnt paying too much attention
junior plover
Awc 1
lime light
also healer players
junior plover
RSham Arms DK and Rsham Arms Ret i believe
junior plover
Were played with a lot of success
candid moth
fotm rerollers
I mean, they need to
junior plover
Generally speaking rsham seems to be the healer of choice for melee cleave
junior plover
Probably because ranged interrupt
lime light
they need to yes, cuz its always one healer super insane above the rest
candid moth
he cant just say, "lets not fotm now"
edgy shale
yea fuck mw, i hvaen't forgiven them
junior plover
MW had whole s4
So wat
If balance and feral is shit s2 sl
You'll be fine because we were ok S1?
edgy shale
dont put that energy out into the world plz
junior plover
Every spec should be viable
lime light
that they should be
insane still
just the fact
there is always one healer
above the rest
lime light
i rly hate disc or hpal meta
edgy shale
paly and mw were both kinda dumb at end of last season afte rlast set of mw nerfs. but it was too late i guess
lime light
cuz disc is the worst made spec
junior plover
I really hope mindgames goes baseline
lime light
in whole game
junior plover
So disc is forever different
lime light
the spec cant be balanced
edgy shale
mindgames banseline pe pega why
candid moth
cuz disc is the worst made spec
I dislike rdruid meta because they can shift my rootbeam 
edgy shale
i think mind games is op
lime light
and u gonna rush enemys
with damgur mindgames
and instants
rn disc is somehow decent, till u face hpal melee cleavers
junior plover
Ye but right now it's balanced
edgy shale
well idk if op is the right word, but extremely powerful. i do think the flavor of the ability is really cool though
junior plover
So it clearly can be
edgy shale
like super cool
lime light
no its not, if u face melee cleave its impossible to win
cuz he ooms after 1-2 min
and if he doesnt play radiance
he just dies
weak hinge
disc is good with ret arms
candid moth
I think its okay to have healers with a weakness
lime light
but that comps is good with any healer
weak hinge
ret with wings+PI+dark arc is crazy
lime light
i could even see them play with mw
junior plover
Disc has a clear purpose and weakness and I think it's really good for the game
junior plover
Vs other healers who can only compete when they're fotm
junior plover
Because they're the same thing
lime light
if u can play with hpal
junior plover
Hpal could also be repurposed into a healer with a purpose
Focusing on immunities
Taking away Mana efficiency and instant heals
Instead of only being viable when op
lime light
the game is soo fun
when u dont face any
palla team
but u do face it
every game
lime light
2s is w/e
u can get high rating in 2s even being an ape
cuz u can just q
at the morning
when ruskis q
and farm them
edgy shale
lmao
lime light
thats truth
edgy shale
tian Q with me 1 day
junior plover
Lol
junior plover
lime light
2.5k hpal can bubble cyclone
in opener
iam sure they could also use bubble on sap
opener
junior plover
I played vs turbo with prot pal at 2k the other day
The pala
Used divine shield angel
In the opener
Before we left pillar
junior plover
That's how fast they wanted to go
lime light
palla is gonna sac the warrior
junior plover
lime light
and mount up
run to the disc
and never leave him
before someone dies
bubble fear
bop rake
no time, they need to play
junior plover
Lol
lime light
u cant CC a real ruski prot
if someone told me in bfa
that destro is one of the most rare specs
in arena
i would say
good crack vato
but its real
hollow cypress
What's the go to Lego for Resto druid in 3v3. Currently have 235 swiftmend and wildgrowth ones
edgy shale
he wasn't lying tian
hollow cypress
I'm okay night fae as resto if that means anything
verbal urchin
What about feral?
edgy shale
feral can pick watever
hollow cypress
@edgy shale ty
fair vector
Can you guys recommend me what 3v3 comp to go with on feral while learning how to pvp?
lime light
Jungle
edgy shale
u setup cc with ur hunter
its prob not the most forgiving comp
u should run w/ holy and ret
tian will murder u tho
fair vector
Haha why is would he murder me 😛
Okay holy and ret, I tried cleave a bit but we fumbled
junior plover
fair vector
I am really bad at pvp
junior plover
I would play with arms or ww or ret if youre new to pvp
I got to 2k in no time with ww feral disc
not a great comp but it works good enough and is relatively simple
FMP and Jungle are both very setup heavy
edgy shale
why? cuz tian hates paladins, paladin players, the light, and everything the light stands for
he wants them all 6 ft. under
fair vector
I see
Who doesnt tho right, we'lll I gues me if they can get me to 1800
So feral disk and ww or arms Kiosk?
edgy shale
for the record, i think out of the 3 Qs, 3s is prob the harest to gain rating
junior plover
What we did was my cyclone into ww paralysis into priest fear
junior plover
and it worked really well
but hammer of justice
would work even better
since no dr
Yeah 3s is the hardest to play
feral slaps in 2s so u can try learning there
fervent imp
As rdrood how did u win against an affl lock ?
junior plover
U dont 
safe heart
im not sure any druid spec wins again aff lock
junior plover
😠 <- my face when warlock
safe heart
i lose against lock comps like 9/10 times and the only time i win is when they literally forget to press their defensives and die in the openers
fair vector
I cant tank my 2v2 atm, I want to practise
junior plover
yep
fervent imp
Same shit ye
verbal urchin
Do it do it!
safe heart
i did it, and i honestly cant believe it wasnt my first choice
fair vector
Ok ill take any of the comp blocks you mentioned and just kill them fast before I die 😄
junior plover
Ok ill take any of the comp blocks you mentioned and just kill them fast before ...
Wait
how do I fly to elysian hold
i have no flight path to there
lol
main linden
Hey, i guess u get theese questions all day long. Night Fae or Kyrian for feral pvp 2v2 withh priest? 🙂
fair vector
I wish I could find decent RBG groups tho, that seems way easier to push on
fair vector
My gues is night fae is great in lower brackets
edgy shale
2s is a cheese bracket and convoke is the best cheese there is, but idk kyrian is so good
junior plover
It works in higher bracket 2s too
its not really cheese
if you know what youre doing
your entire gameplan is to setup that 1 good convoke
and your opponent knows that too and they try to deny it
its really fun to play that way imo
edgy shale
if ur entire gameplan revolves around 1 thing and their gameplan is to deny it, thats like the defition of cheese. it changes the game from wat it normally is to a mini-game based around 1 thing /strategy
and ya i use NF im 2s i don't even disagree that its fun lol but its def cheese
junior plover
Idk I feel like cheese implies the strategy is somehow dumbing the game down
fair vector
Its a niche window I feel, this is what I do with a shaman in 2's
Set up trinkets and dr for the second convoke
edgy shale
yeah idk
fair vector
What do I focus on with double pally in 3's?
junior plover
Depends on what your partner is
Usually you just need your healer to be fast on bop dispell
edgy shale
y know u can rake the healer outta stealth, convoke, and up to a certain rating there's a 50% chance th ey just fall over
junior plover
Should I open on healer or is that comp specific
Depends on the comp a lot
fair vector
I like that
junior plover
but i've had a lot of success
with starting the game with
rake -> cyclone
on the healer
since my WW could pressure the other 2dps a lot and by the time I got there we'd always get a defensive
sometimes they swap to you as soon as you rake tho so it doesnt always work
fair vector
Oh ill try that a few times
It is fun, I wish gear wasnt such a big thing in it for pve
So much pressure to rush 1800
safe heart
sigh
love fighting a paladin for 5 minutes straight, finally get bubble, then just lose to rng
junior plover
amber pond
As a resto who's barely played any Arena though dips into BGs, I wish to attempt to hit an 1800 rating at some point, but I have no frame of reference for difficulty, or what's expected of me for that target level of play. What's the best starting point for someone like me?
edgy shale
As a resto who's barely played any Arena though dips into BGs, I wish to attempt...
have u played random BGs before and u know thre basics of the BGs?
edgy shale
first st rike is a lifestyle
shy cloud
what do u think is the best comb for a feral in 2s to step into the arena? Hpala?
edgy shale
junior plover
what do u think is the best comb for a feral in 2s to step into the arena? Hpala...
Disc or Hpal
Disc makes the most sense
but Hpal is obnoxiously overpowered in 2s
edgy shale
i went back n checked btw. it was hpal in finals n losers finals of na and eu
hpal is just discusting
shy cloud
hmm okay. Next Question: i practiced the opener a lot, but i pretty much die , if thats not pulling big cd´s out of the enemy. i mean, i´m pretty bad and i know it, playing at like 1.4 rating, where i do face a lot of double DD shit, that just run over me. whats exactly the plan to avoid that? hugging pillars and kite ?
edgy shale
if ur against double dps and ur playing w/ a healer ur job isn't to do damage its just to not die until u get their cds out
shy cloud
in that case, would you burst at the start of the match, or would you just play around their offensive cd´s and try to get a reset afterwards and burst yourself?
most of the time i play with a dps, cause im alliance and healers obviously prefer to play with a different class than with a shitty feral
edgy shale
by burst do u mean popping zerk? naw i'd save it
try to get their offensive CDs out and don't be too scared about walling / trinketing
then go on the offensive w/ ur cds
u can FF on opener that's fine
shy cloud
hmm okay. next question ( im sorry 😄 ) : i read a lot of guides and its said a lot, that applying pressure with a lot of rip on all targets is a thing, but i dont feel like thats actually whats needed. am i wrong?
