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@junior plover shh
mc bug is just flavor
It works just fine for me
and they dont give a 2 fucks
prot pala isnt shitting on the leaderboard at all tho
weaker than hpal in pretty much every teamcomp
the beefy bois of the light been crankin
there's literally 1 player in the world
who's making it work
and he's really good
i dont super enjoy playing against tanks, but I usually dont lose to them
we saw prot pala in bfa awc
ye but that was as a dampen meta offhealer right
this is as a primary healer
so its different i suppose
still
it has a shield icon instead of a green plus
boohoo
i do have to say though, my worst pvp experience in SL so far is getting trained by a ret prot comp as afflic warlock
i mrember feral being dampen off healer huge burst nasty bleed ashamane dodging hammers meta

when late caster meta kicks in
I need to say
in 9.3
We didn't know how good we had it
When destro was better than aff
Aff is just so toxic man
I love playing afflic
Altho ofc a lot of it is corruption slow leggo
not this style of afflic though
fuck affl all my homies hate affl
dude mop afflic...
mop afflic was so fun
afflic has been king dick before
I dont really like any
it was
but mop destro was still fun
isnt that how every win happens
at some point
i just like playing a warlock and having 4 buttons as optional spells to cast
It feels like the opponent has to be working 20x harder
than the affl
where as the affl
i think affi is perfect now, they have to kite and play their class
just wins by default
Point is
afflic in SL?
now if u good as affi
I just hate how much better hpal is than anything else
you play jungle
god*
right now, afflic literally only works in spriest
And the amount of DMG a ret can do while bubbled
you sit on pillar until the game ends
also ele sham
also works with ele, and arms
other than shadowplay, warlock is probably the worst pvp class rn
rip method
but u obv need an hpal
i'm just saying
in your team
ye, if warlock cant tank for 15 mins and kill in one global
warlock is bad
i understand
I mean it doesnt FEEL like a win by default, it feels like im barely avoiding instant death constantly
true, but warlocks have a target on their back by virtue of existing
im just sayin its not really win by default, its win by avoiding all the crazy one shots
ugh...
and the shadow aura
pls no
After 500 games, and still at 1400 rating, that's pretty much the only way I win as RDruid. :(((
haha I play resto druid and afflic warlock in arena
the thing about rn for me is feral affinity, so much stunning
and convoke creates a go on its own with heart
i should probably stop playing classes like this and just level my monk tbh
Man, I've been so stuck thinking I need bash to stop getting trained that I haven't even considered Heart Convoke...
This is probably part of the reason I'm hardstuck.
heart convoke needs a little bit of setup though
I dont take bash because it doesnt really feel good, it got nerfed by an entire second
yeah, you need to reroll hpal
Oh, absolutely. I'm not blaming anyone but myself.
I know I'm doing something wrong.
whats your cast order?
I'm just really bad at figuring out what.
like if you see your teammate getting bursted, what do
about to get bursted rather, you wont be able to react
I would get gladiatorlossa
and as soon as a cd goes flying you overgrowth ironbark whoevers about to get fucked
thorns is also the melee cure rn
Ironskin, Overgrowth and Swiftmend are high up there.
1400 people just blow their cooldowns and burst
are you using CDs on wrong enemy CDs
and tunnel for 10 seconds
are you getting caught out and wasting CDs on yourself
hardstuck 1400 forget everything u know cus its wrong
Predictions is something I need to work on too, yeah.
I'm getting better at predicting the first go of the match.
But then the second one hits me like a truck.
And it's game over.
look at ur gameplay in a more open sense and be able to say hey i/we fucked up here
gladiatorlossa and omnicd is how youre gonna be able to notice the next go happening
that is all for today pls venmo cash for more insightful tips uwu
Yeah, I've got Omnibar, and that helped a ton.
but honestly in 1400 they dont really set up goes, so you should be fine just blowing a cd to counter their cd
also voice is necessary
actually mandatory
dont bother queuing if youre not using voice
I have a few alts to play with friends and at that low rating, when I heal.... I typically just stand back and pve. Avoid cc
this is false propaganda
O.O
ur just jealous of my stylish headphones
so pretty, so Pog
@ashen verge basically work on tracking cds, and communicate with your partner(s) when cds are about to come up, or just got used which are both signals you need to cc or counter cd
@vestal citrus in guide you mention NF convoke, is this the NF version of self link(Like faction ability?) that i just unlocked via leveling?
oh word
roger
Alright, alright. Thanks for the tips!
alternatively, roll boomkin and convoke people
balance is pumping shit dies too fast cant even enjoy immersion at this pace
I have thought about that too, but it just doesn't interest me. :((
just predict and counter the 0.7 kill from stealth
its that easy
@ashen verge are u eu
@lime light Yeah.
if youve only thought about it, you havent tried it
heres a dirty little secret about boomkins though
the thing that kills you most often isnt actually the convoke, its the instant starsurges afterwards
yeah
Yeah, that full astral power bar is scary.
the gun doesnt kill u
convoke is mostly used as a mastery setup (that happens to oneshot sometimes)
its the fast bullets
thats why all the druids hyperfocus on convoke, because not everyone realizes its not really whats happening 😉
What's peoples thoughts on not Incarn+Convoking and simply doing Incarn -> triple surge people and then using convoke on another go with boat?
sounds like people explode either way
incarn is how I predict convokes though, so it might be good to try raw dogging it sometimes
I've just been playing RBG's and when you get convoke locked you lose the whole boat window for the surges after it
and I remember Chanimal during AWC just flat out using incarn on 100 AP to hit some fool; then just using a normal boat window on convoke; he only lined them up very late in dampening
i mean if chanimal does it its probably pretty effective
hes only the best warlock or smth
BOAT are feeling weak in pvp r now
Hello, i'm looking for someone who knows the ins and outs of pvp arenas and such generally speaking to come chat to me and my roommate for just a few about some questions we have, a little guidance would help a lot! please PM me if your willing to help!
Wich loa is better for zandalari druids in pvp?
ask here bud
we have way too many things to ask to type it all up. its a bit complicated lol
would just be easier to chat for a few.
anyone have ideas on best feral legos for pvp?
symmetry. some google would answer this
i appreciate the reply, and i have googled, i just want peoples opinion
Symmetry good, Cat-Eye good, Apex ok, Barkskin leggo bit meme but good if you want defensive leggo.
Legendary is a minor thing really for feral
nah just pvp, pve is braindead for boom
but hello kitty island adventure does sound good
Mel Gibson or mel gibson?
just a fan
Funny mel Gibson or hates jews mel gibson?
yes
Barkskin lego is really good for PvP in some comps
Does anyone have a site other than wow head they use for balance druid pvp advice? I'm main feral but wanna do boomie for arena and rbg but supatease and a few other youtubers all suggest different things lol
Supatease is known to be a bit fried in the head
That being said
You can make weird shit work
Just play more good
Than enemies
Just some weird shit is pretty fucken bad
Necro Circle with Stellar Flare and feral affinity????

Wait does Necro affect Fury of Elune dam?
I'm gonna check it out in a bit on my alt
I don't think it would but what if
I am night fae playing 2's with holy paladin and the only thing helping us wins is aura mastery convoke after we track their cds but like I'm trying to find a way to survive/do damage because it feels liek I cant get in to eclipse half the time
Hi, how can i spend my 15k honnor ? i'm under 1400
@stray sigil 
@clear pulsar was that bt ?
That's a mage

Pretty smol ok I get it
Could be a bit bigger
I dont have 2nd potency yet
So only tfb, no TF conduit
wait till u get some like 20k on warriors or dks
that does feel pretty good
but i def want more crit with this build now
freakin cult leader
hey man some people wanna do big dam
how many u got
Wtf
Are Guardians better than VDHs for FC and spinning points?
its like 10mins a wing ya
30 mins too many
tbh I could've been farming torg more than blizz allows
i have like, 3 legos to start with
ye ik
IMO no, but being able to go balance on certain maps is huge too
UFR/NOW/BoaT
is torg like the visions shit
if u have a guard
farm it solo?
guardian druid is by far the easier solo torg of any class I have played
ffs warden
Wuuut
moonkin affinity, heart of the wild, convoke 242k dps on bosses
kill in literally 3 seconds
maybe i need to try again then lol
the vengeance actually needs to be decent
guardian is sorta like
u can be so dumb and still win games
what’s it like holding points as guardian against Rogues?
Speak from experience mate? @tulip falcon
easy
sit on flag press barkskin when u get sapped with brambles
I’m hearing good shit
I just couldn’t decide
yes thats why im bored of guardian and only playing feral when i can
But the more I see the more I’m tempted by Bear boy
What would you say for spinning and FC Cov wise?
doesnt matter
fuck maybe I should finally close the anx gap and queue for random BGs >.>
nf is nice for soulshape
So I’m not inting my going Venthyr for the mog?
all the covs have little relevance to fc/deffing tbh
The cringe comp were aiming for is: 2/3 bookies, 2 rogues, priests and paladins etc.
But ty guys
Yeh we’re@not 100%
nf is nice for that but soulshape is also pretty handy
ye double rogue is uh
not the best
can work but
get a lock for the cancer slow
depends how u play it
is soul shape the only wy to get outta that warrior ability
u cant soulshape out can u
if you do PvE soulshape is useful when you really need to GTFO from an AoE
im pretty sure u can
yeah
alt time 
krassz r u the type to hvae 8 druids or do u play other classes
ye idk i just want more than 1 hero that i got like 6 yrs ago
prob more presitigious than hero this season lol
it is
everyone plays pugs tbh
i dont but we just giggle in rbgs
also not remotely high anyways
like 2.3 or something
ok no
that might be a quick route to 1500 rating lol
i mean most of them are at least glad atm
nonono
currently glad?
yes
thats a pog team
i mean
most people at the higher end of rbg ladder are multi-glad / r1
with a few exceptions
theres like lovemydog
most of the random pugs and pvers riding out inflation are 2.4-2.5 atm
yea prob at rating as high as that. its the freaking wild west closer to 2k
but he cant get r1 anymore
they are mostly washed up r1s
hits home uh glyphy

why not push it now
find urself a ww
and a hpal
cruise to r1
ya, don't wait
sinful gladiator shingeki
lul
for all the sins playing prot feral
same
ffs
xd
gargantua
If you think about it
Gay gladiator
Best hunter NA has what, 2 rank 1 titles?
gargantua gladiator glyph
they already did prideful
If you good you dont give a shit bro

Jellybezos
I have 0
im the best feral eu tho

It's a manner of speaking
i mean jelly is a different case
he is the biggest
giggler
in the world
makes sense he never gets r1s

cant tell if u are flaming him
or not
genius
oce players
he is
Glyph never flames
Nature flamed paradise1 when it made him that player
i forget oce exists
🧢
bro

i thought he was an alpha male
formy stream?
wats formy's twitch
formy being a squeaker
Bruh lmao
and sockx just flaming everyone everygame
ok ty
i click on formy's vod. he's against war/ret pal. immediately turn it off
na formy is a nf player only
i see ur not mentioning boomies
i see
no bias
ofc
oh true i forgot he has 2 NF lmao\
Am I better off just going straight honour gear and levelling it?
So at like 2300-2400 mmr in rbgs I'm starting to notice my mechanical skill capped a bit in small skirmishes (1-3 peeps). I don't arena much just like 1700-1800 with friends for points. Would getting better at arena help that much?
That is
vers mastery for guardian
a 2 or 3 man skirmish literally is arena so I'd say yes
why would it be haste? mastery gives you big defensive bonus
Okay big
if ur good in arenas ur almost guaranteed gonna be good in rbgs
yea health + healing

other way around not so much
I feel very effective in large fights. Like I always pump cc and kbs, but idk I feel like I freeze up in small fights
yea small fights is where you need to play it more like arena
so arena exp will definitely help
teamfighting is the easy part
teamfighiting is boring as fuck nayways
if ur playing boomie you'll be relied on a lot to play objectives
no, its all about 10 people at blacksmith
lmao

its why i like feral on objective maps tbh
"GHOST THE BASES, GET TO BS"
no one expects it
yea feral is more use on objectives than tf
feral 1v1 is pog
when we run rogue/feral offcarts we dont ever lose them
unless they giga inc
then we get lava anyway
yea
unless ur team gets raped at lava
then they just peel more back to offs
but if its a close fight its fine
we always have shit comps
Just SLAY SLAY SLAY
tbh i used primal wrath in a gilneas once
with apex
i didnt like it
the range wasnt that good
u forgot da balance aff
i guess it depends on comp like
Balance affinity is a given hello?
some comps just arent very stacked
but if they got like some melee train i could see it working
and on silvershard but i dont want primal wrath if im needed on offcarts
yea i dont get to go tf on eots ever though
i still get a lot of procs from all the aoe anyway lul
i mean multi rip
on 2-3 targets
oh ya ur a apex player
just applying normally
double bt bites makes people panic
like in tf i just play it like a rogue would
play for control and jump in for kills when i have some damage
hell maybe even rip and tear would work
i wish it had a slightly lower cd
Ghosting carts is fine unless they have a DH and he hasn't spectral sighted recently
hey guys im trying to improve as balance in rbgs - are there any good streamers or youtube channels you could recommend me?
thanks bro, I'll check him out. I'd defo watch that by the way - think there is a gap in the market for good commentary on RBGs
skillcapped rbg guides 
oh nice - do skillcapped have decent rbg content?
ahh shame
theres like no one that makes rbg content really
that may change since i've never seen it this popular before
yep, changes to pvp gearing system really brought it back to life
considering the end of bfa had literally 1 hour + queues above 2.2
its a nice change
really nice
i came back end of bfa and think i legit spent more time queueing than playing
I wish it cost less energy
Wild assumption to say glyph's commentary would be good
Man can't go 2 sentences without dropping gamer words
idk what i'd swap out rbg-wise for it though if i tried it
thorns is big peel
leader is pretty big for a group
maybe ferocious wound
Fero thorns rnt for objective maps 1v1
Bro is kyrian campaign just way quicker than nfae?
I'm already like 5/9
Bro ngl making cat eye was best thing
Not even for pvp just
Doing world content
With 60 more energy pooled
No
just feels bad replacing a vers item with non vers
maybe ill just grind torg
Bro torg isnt a grind
Stop bro
@formal wave why does it feel bad
It's just a multiplier
damage reduction T_T
Doesn't really have any palpable effect on how you play or what you press
i think i just have a bad association with torg since i do it while working from home normally
and go afk every 5 mins
35k hp with 20% vers is tankier than 33k hp with 30% vers
I mean
It doesnt really matter
Equip the good items you got
Just slay
Play good
Win games
is the 10% vers just getting sucked into a vacuum? or can i trade for other secondaries
just highest ilvl right? you guys dont sim your gear do you
totes can sim
you can sim but like
is there a 40% vers modifier in raidbots
@clear pulsar MY BOY
theres more that factors into pvp than just how much damage you do

i wouldnt find simming for pvp useful
What would you accomplish for pvp gearing by running any sim at all? @lapis mica
the tankiness sim u use maybe facerton?
@clear pulsar bro willy legit told me he pvp simd his burst the other day
tf

cuz i was arguing theres no way a surv hunter does more burst
than feral
so he went full sim mode
The surv hunter that sims pvp burst
now me and smight
so simming was proof of this?
WARDEN
what do you guys do if you're not sure about an item
what are you not sure about
Equip higher ilvl
let me give u a piece of my wisdom
And say fuck it
literally delete it
facts i was pissed i couldnt mog my wep
when i switched cov
but they fixed that
thankfully
@formal wave show mog
sure one moment
Im usually pretty sure about my items tho
OKAY
uh
TREMENDOUS
stunning and brve
watch your mouth or i'll HAYMAKER you
haymaker is pog
👀
tremendous is the perfect word
super good in blade edge arena
facerson is a god damn wordsmith man

highmountain racial was the worst shit i used
@formal wave I do 2 things for my gearing decisions
if anyone ever considers it
EHP weakaura wago.io/EffectiveHealth
And bite tooltip
Can do like, divide by your vers then multiply by 1.4 your vers
To check for trinket set bonus if you want
alright
i got 207 pvp boots but i did get so lucky to get 226 boe from raid
sell it... or use it...
sell those
the highest guild on my server is 3/10
im pepega so i actually bought a pair for myself for pve tho lol
they are like crit/haste arent they?
yea crit haste
i see some people selling those for 150k on my serv
if boe are cheep
so not much anymore
they dropped for me
Man looking like he's about to collect his sinful gladiator's souleater
lol
I need 54 more wins before i do
wait serious
ye
150k for mythic boot?
yup
i bought mine for 500k
other boes are like 500k+ so idk why
i could go tich i guess
ye im on eu so that whole transfer thing wouldn't work
How much do augment runes go on your servers?
yeah its west coast
ya see im dirty canadian from east
im west coast tho so it works. i get to be close to my OCE brothers
ig i go do illidan or area52 though
ok idk why, but every single area 52 player i see sucks ass
i know ist a good server so its just confirmation bias or some shit, but don't go there
imo
its just the biggest horde server na i think
either a52 or its illidan
but illidan has hella chinese for some reason
i joined an RBG the other day, and everyone was talking english. as soon as it starts 9 voices talking in korean
the entire bg
i was so confused
Lmao
ya im not sure why illidan is so asian
+500 rating
i got baited man
Gg
oh putain
Ahahaha
if i was eu
Gonna take atleast a eeek
i would snipe u
Week
and gatekeep u
yes
fuji u need to strream
I clapped tony jungle 3 times today
no shot u live
: )
His priest started whispering us
@edgy shale my disc does stream our games sometimes
my server is so low pop there arent any 226 boots on the AH
oh link his stream
jandari1
kk ty
Imaginr
that means u sell for whatever price u want
Enemy disc whispering our prot pala
lets see if it will go for 1 million
Saying: haha this will be only season u get above 2k
Meanwhile our pala only one getting glad every season
Thonk
this ssn gonna be like 3.6
its already like 3.3 isnt it
i want a selfplay cos i cba pugging
I saw something about MMR staying at 3.3 and not going up in wins for people there
So like
its ok eu will just wintrade again to raise it
:(
wat a goof
F
Playing with prot pala against monkeys is gloriois
Prot pala runs in on steed looking mighty and powerful
Enemy team popping all defensives
????
Meanwhile we pop 0 offensives
Very big iq
Aye
@clear pulsar ya there is a mmr cap
i think a lot of people still dont know wtf to do against prot too
Aye
think cdew was getting 0 points at like 3.2 the other week
you guys like boomy resto sham in 2s?
They hella clueless
playing vs 3k guys
but that shit increases by weeks
We meet turbo's
Who go me or warrior
i hit a 30k one
Instead of just
in 2s earlier
Stormbolt > dead
gn german friend
nope
or cyclone?
bop prevents physical ones
i would leave the game
only slow + roots right?
quit game
yes
man paladins are such cancer
facts
and whats the name of that wings spell?
idk ppl just call it wings
avenging wrath
A lot of popular addons have lists of buffs that you've seen recently or in combat segments for details
That let you find ids easily
outclassed
ya i don't udnerstand that proc
its like a 7 second mini wings like in bfa
how does that work
visio nof perfection shit
so they just get a mini-wings every minute thats so annoying
theres something about the talent like
they have to ahve uptime
or get hit
i dont remember which
They have to get it
You get stacks based on anyone
With your aura
Getting critical struck

Oh damn thats right
It's just a proc now
And aura affects everyone
No 1 min cd
What the FRICK
Yeah
Especially as feral
With dots rolling
Fast autoattacks
No fucking wonder
They get it so often
Like
It's baffling
Does anyone have a discord link to the MMARKERS discord?
Probably on his stream you'll find that bro
do i gotta redownload all the mods from twitch with this new curseforge shit
So, quick question, I’m having an incredibly hard time dealing with warriors at 1900+ mmr - how can I handle their insane mitigation / dmg output as feral? Is there any play making potential I can do there?
did jah lose
good
i need some advice.. currently im a nightfae resto druid. i mainly did mythic plus content and thats why i chose night fae.. now im over m+ and getting into arena, currently only 1450 in 2s and 1350 in 3s.. i see most people are necrolord resto in arena.. how much better is necro in arena compared to Night fae?
I didn't watch
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