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livid heart
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Pets die super ez so it depends on comp, but u usually bring ur pet out after ur opener

clear pulsar
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Ok?

livid heart
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Don't be sensitive

twilit siren
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could someone teach me with basics of sitting a base vs rogue

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stealth far, tag, try to restealth?
do I treants for when he smokes or if I think I'll be full cc'd while he caps?
what else do I need to do/avoid?

primal bane
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so

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is shadowplay just

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not supposed to be beaten?

clear pulsar
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Sit in stealth, moonfire from max range, trinket blind and drop treants afterwards, fury of elune after treants are over

primal bane
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i start thinking shadowplay is better than rmp

clear pulsar
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Smoke bomb doesn't do anything if the rogue is alone, it doesn't last long enough to cap the base @twilit siren

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As long as you stop it immediately after smoke bomb's down

rigid linden
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Thing is It lures alot of people in and then the rogue can sap Ur ass when ur closeby

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The amount of caps I've had on rogue cause the boomy or mage panicked and ran into bomb lmfao

crude minnow
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both smokebomb and cloak are shorter than the flag cap

twilit siren
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kind of scared since I got 2.1k+ with guild but I'm a pvp noob so I'm going to make beginner's mistakes

crude minnow
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it takes time to learn. I just got 2.1k and at 2.3k mmr I definitely am learning where I have deficiencies.

supple path
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if im on my boomy and they ask me to sit, im leaving the group in this meta

clear pulsar
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???

primal bane
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what does sitting mean

crude minnow
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if you're running 3 boomies, you should be prepared to sit, especially if you die and dont have cds but someone else does (lock or other boomy)

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@clear pulsar mb braindead today

clear pulsar
twilit siren
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on eye is the flag plateau big enough for max range or do I need to constantly los after I tag so rogue can't get onto me to restealth?

clear pulsar
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Well what base are you talking about?

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Mage tower is awful

twilit siren
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hmm I guess they are all different

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the southeast one, forgot what it was called or which side I was on, felt small

clear pulsar
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Bottom right? That's belf tower?

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You can stand pretty far from flag

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If you go like around the tower

crude minnow
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if you know you're gonna sit at some point do you take treants always? I dont take it normally. I take fury of elune even if I'm running BOAT tho

sleek ravine
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I sit as BAER so I can’t recommend boomkin sitting much. Hunters, rogues, and tanks generally are better base sitters

clear pulsar
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Like flag sits around red, you can stand further into the base rather than down the ramp @twilit siren

sleek ravine
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Boomkin don’t have an invulnerability or stall like the rest as well

clear pulsar
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Boomie is a fucking livelord lol

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You're wild

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Boomie's op in teamfights but it's also easily a top 4 spec for basesitting

sleek ravine
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It’s about cc immunity

clear pulsar
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No it's not

twilit siren
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is there a wa to see time left on cap?

clear pulsar
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My guy saying boomie not good base sitter

sleek ravine
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No

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I said hunters tanks and rogues generally better at it

clear pulsar
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Cuz don't have immunity

sleek ravine
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Not that they are bad

clear pulsar
sleek ravine
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Veng dh, guardian both work well

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In my experience at least

tardy hare
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guardian dru just takes ages to cap on

sleek ravine
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Have fun getting through incarn before a rotation to defend

stray sigil
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dh tank has sight thing

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kinda useful

tardy hare
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dh gets capped on easy af tho

sleek ravine
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Dh tank can check for stealth’s coming too

clear pulsar
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Bro veng isn't a good base sitter

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Not better than boomie

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By a mile

sleek ravine
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And if they IMmo aura on the flag they can deal with sap blind BS too

stray sigil
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why would u sit a boomy nowadays though lol

sleek ravine
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Exactly

tardy hare
primal bane
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forfeit seems to be

stray sigil
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just go mid

primal bane
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the best strat vs shadowplay

stray sigil
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pop convoke

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win the fight

primal bane
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how are dot casters

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literally running up to yourpillar

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and still destroy you

tardy hare
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dude i had an eots game at like 2.2 mmr

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enemy didnt have rogue

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we just ghosted both own bases

clear pulsar
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My last rbg we had this spriest just constantly hit bases all game

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It was hilarious

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Imagine you're a rogue and you lose your base to a spriest

stray sigil
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i just sit bases in rbgs

tardy hare
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dude in bfa i did some rbgs with a couple buddies

stray sigil
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and open up netflix

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oin the side

tardy hare
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and one of the guys is a disc priest

stray sigil
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prime gameplay

clear pulsar
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Yeah bro I always wanna just sit base @stray sigil

tardy hare
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he'd just run mines by himself in BfG

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cap it

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xd

stray sigil
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feral is ass in fights anyways

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i either sit

clear pulsar
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Just watch some yt or netflix and yell at people

stray sigil
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or go get some shit

clear pulsar
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DH tank good base sitter tho

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KAPP

stray sigil
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just aram mid

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pog

tardy hare
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thats what i do half the time

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try get a cap cause people forget to spin

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xd

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works way too often

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tbh

stray sigil
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real question is

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why would u q rbgs

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unironically

edgy shale
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can't u just setup stuns on kill target? thats wat I've been doing on feral

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guess rogue just does it better

tepid spoke
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who wins, assuming same skill lvl, rogue or boomy?

clear pulsar
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I like how method didn't play ww fire at all day 1 and almost lost a series

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THen just decided to turn it up now

tardy hare
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also just want 2.4 title

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so i can flex

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all pvp done

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gg

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besides it's kinda fun to clap dumb idiots

clear pulsar
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How about you

edgy shale
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getting good takes way longer than just running RBGs

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also RBGs also take long

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lol

tardy hare
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just meet people like this all the time

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stomp em gigahard

stray sigil
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oh yeah rbgs

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is all like that

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bunch of 1600

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with 2400 rbgs

tardy hare
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'this guy

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missed 5 links

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on FC

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in 2 games

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: )

edgy shale
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RBG is free 226 gear, so people are gonna take adv

gleaming flicker
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boomy nerf feral buff please

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ffs

clear pulsar
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You're crazy

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There is no chance feral gets a buff

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And feral absolutely doesn't need one

forest moss
gleaming flicker
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watch the video

vast vapor
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how'd you stop rogue from getting re as balance/healer against rogue/mage

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I feel like its impossible

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not sure what to kill there either

primal bane
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its been more than a month

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why do people believe

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convoke is targeted still

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a 2.5k lsxp ret asked me

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why i dindt convoke the hunter

tardy hare
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why didn't you convoke the hunter

safe heart
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because when youre ret pally you just auto win most games because of inherent immuity to death

vast vapor
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convoke op but somehow lfg is only finding for ret ww fire

safe heart
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i get asked if im boomkin when i app and they dont respond when i say feral

primal bane
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and arms

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dont forget arms

vital parcel
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another boomie in awc goosybench

primal bane
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literally not a single pug

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wants boomies

tardy hare
primal bane
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ill actually take that

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ive played with multi r1 ww

chrome panther
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Every rbg group is 2x boomie minimum

primal bane
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3k exp rets

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and countless just

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glad exp pugs

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theyre all bad

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ive climbeed the most with a duelist duo ive played with a couple of days ago

vital parcel
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ok dude

clear pulsar
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Cope can't decide whether he thinks boomie convoke is bullshit and op cuz he loses to it or if he thinks it's useless cuz he can't get it off

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Pls stop taking his messages any seriously ever

primal bane
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moonfire cant decide when he needs to be less dumb

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pls go trash

tardy hare
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idk u ever seen me heal as shaman

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i dont wear glad title/mount on my shaman

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cause it's so horrible

clear pulsar
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@vestal citrus bro why does prev playing on AWC look like he's so much worse than maro?

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Idk movement really

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Like

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Maro's kiting was really fucking great

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Even tho they lost

vital parcel
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what did prev play previously?

clear pulsar
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Prev is a boomie main he played some spr yesterday but played boomie too

night fractal
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Anyone can help me with guardian fc rbg talents? 🙂

stray sigil
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prevs playing well tho

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i dont get u face

clear pulsar
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Maybe it's just cuz like the observer was focused on Maro the entire game

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But it just looks idk slower!?

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Or less diverse, Maro was wild charging in all kinds of forms, tremendous soulshapes and typhoons

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But prev isn't really being trained like that I guess

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Yeah I just tuned in like last 3 mins of game

tardy hare
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@vestal citrus go play AWC we want to simp 4 u

clear pulsar
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Just sign up for NA cups

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With your guildies

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Play guardian boomie

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Gorecki oom before brain that's kinda craaaayzy

vital parcel
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they actaully did it

edgy shale
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wait why ur saying pugs don't wanna boomies...I've seen more "LF boomy stack" RBGs groups than literally anythingh lol

vital parcel
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pog

clear pulsar
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Good shit today prev isn't playing barkskin leggo

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Soooo nerf balance buff feral ye!?

vital parcel
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nonono

clear pulsar
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Can someone tag kawkaw

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And show prev playing bash

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He said playing bash wasn't good or something

vital parcel
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think the bash won the game there

clear pulsar
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I'm glad feral's not won any games

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In tourneys

tardy hare
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you're not glad

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I am

clear pulsar
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Soon tho

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I'm big climbing everytime I play bro

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FPS is legit

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Now just need nerfs to ret ww fire arms spr and prot

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Or feral or gnome or priest or lock

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Yeah

surreal elbow
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wait is prot pala healing finally getting cucked?

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oh nvm didnt read the "now just need" part

sinful nova
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quantum device over pvp trinkets?

surreal elbow
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no

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damage and healing bonus from dual pvp trinkets is too giga to give up

clear pulsar
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Heeeell no

surreal elbow
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only class that gets away with on uses is rogue with skulkers wing and dreadfire cuz of MA 100% crit lego

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as everything else you will want to use double pvp trinks

vast vapor
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how the fuck its possible that I only get dc randomly when I play arena

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do wowservers do something funky or what, never issue elsewhere

surreal elbow
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i had an issue where i loaded after my partner already died 😂

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dw you're not the only one in pain here

vast vapor
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yeah thats another nice bug lately

surreal elbow
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i havent gotten it ever since that 1 time it happened tho

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thankfully

vast vapor
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its just so weird that its not only the wow that disconnects the same time, my discord breaks too, I hear talk but cant talk back

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and only ever happens in arena games

vital parcel
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the prot pala legendary is so bs actually

surreal elbow
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if you're using an hdd you may wanna look into that @vast vapor

vast vapor
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wth

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it actually might be the case because I have only 2,6gb left on my drive

surreal elbow
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O_o

winged ingot
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Yeah that's not ideal, free up some space to let that drive breathe

surreal elbow
vast vapor
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its unlikely tho, it should work np and so weird it does something to my connection

surreal elbow
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100 gb available atleast recommended

winged ingot
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If you have an SSD pretty sure they want like 15% unused space open to operate without hiccups

surreal elbow
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they want 100 gb for ssd probs abit more for an hdd xdd

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i was almost full cleared some space and defragged and it instantly showed results

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i almost lost 3 arenas cuz it was hiccupping asf and trivial tasks of even just bash cloning was super difficult cuz the random spikes

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shouldnt be necessary to defrag but if you have 2.6 gb left you might wanna consider it after deleting some stuff @vast vapor

vast vapor
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yeah

clear pulsar
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You definitely want free space

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Much more than that

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Especially if it's your windows drive too

shell shore
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What comp are the world's top resto druid 2s doing?

twilit siren
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hunters can deal with roots too?

primal bane
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a 2.5k exp arms

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told me repeatedly against every mage

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to focus him

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is he mentally defficient

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or am i missing something

edgy shale
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wat do u play?

primal bane
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boomie/arms

edgy shale
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ya idk mages don't die

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2 many lives

primal bane
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thats what im thinking

edgy shale
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but the pressure stops them from freecasting fireball

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so that means fewer combusts

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thats my thought

primal bane
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also

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if im being trained like

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absolutely 24/7

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talking dk/ww not even once considering to swithc targets

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for the whole duration of the game

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do i have to simply sit bear form and pray my team can make a kill?

edgy shale
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so he's tunneling the healer?

primal bane
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im using renewal

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vs ww/dk

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i always feel like im dying

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well idc about dk actuaklly

vital parcel
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just root into wilcharge

primal bane
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what root im not feral

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just wildcharge

winter spindle
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Mass root /forehead

edgy shale
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monks don't give a shit bout root

winter spindle
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You root the images/xuen

edgy shale
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yeah

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thats facts

winter spindle
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No images on you monk only does 45% dmg

edgy shale
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i dont run mass root as feral, but thats good as boom

winter spindle
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Or something like that

primal bane
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oh yeah

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mass roog is pretty short cd

clear pulsar
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Chanimal boomie OKAY LETS GO???

kindred galleon
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Caaaavoke

clear pulsar
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It's VERY good peel for SEF

edgy shale
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thats a fat tip ill remember that

clear pulsar
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Yeah you always want to CC the clones (the way SEF works, the damage is evenly distributed, so each clone does same dam, if you peel 2 you're basically taking 1/3 of the damage), and Xuen too

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Xuen works like old TOD where it deals damage based on the monk's damage

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I think

simple latch
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CONVOKKKKKEKEKEKEKE

clear pulsar
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Cdew died to sac dot

weak hinge
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CONVOOOOOOOOOOOOOKE

novel sky
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Lmao

clear pulsar
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BIIIIIG Convoke

pallid coral
winter spindle
pallid coral
trim moth
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Jesus that convoke 😭

clear pulsar
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Supatease finally with a good take

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After 2 years on panel

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Where's my @kawkaw

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"Convoke isn't good past 2.4 ok? Trust I'm 2.5"

stray sigil
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tbf

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cdew fucking trolled

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super hard

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lol

clear pulsar
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Yeah ofc but that's how it goes right?

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It catches people way off guard

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Cuz it's basically its own separate go almost

stray sigil
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i mean

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he went in los like 3s in the convoke

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if he sacd and stayed behind pillar

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nobody dies

simple latch
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welp

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expect a night fae nerf on tuesday everyone lol

surreal elbow
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convoke is good at high rating, if you can get trinkets and immunities any comp would tumble over in seconds

clear pulsar
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Yeah that's true @stray sigil

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Watching back he did troll

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Just fucking walked out into mid field

stray sigil
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he went out to sac

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then went out a gain

clear pulsar
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He went WAY out yeah

stray sigil
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thats on him

simple latch
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kyrian is Easier to play at higher rating, doesnt mean its BETTER

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convoke is more exploitable

clear pulsar
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Hilarious shit

stray sigil
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def weird to see convoke on c9

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c9 playing to win ???

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what is this

surreal elbow
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convoke is more exploitable cuz its a HEY your cd management sucks now you die button

stray sigil
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usually play to not lose and damp

clear pulsar
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They really should teach Eiya something other than 'small map or big map'

simple latch
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exactly

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its just like combust

surreal elbow
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you bait cds then boom

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make a good setup

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no dr's

weak hinge
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bruh all you need for convoke is a port behind pillar or a paralyze

stray sigil
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that wasnt even a good setup

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u guys are wilding

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super hard lol

weak hinge
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they just fucked up

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like 2k players

stray sigil
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he just sent it

clear pulsar
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@stray sigil @vestal citrus convoke BOAT boomie, it's like the opposite of the C9 MO of damp

stray sigil
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and cdew inted it

surreal elbow
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are we taking into consideration both feral and boomie convoke here or just boomie

haughty compass
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Lol

clear pulsar
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Both have the potential to be problematic, Boomie Convoke fulfills it more often

simple latch
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bets that sam is going to bring out the boomy?

vital parcel
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fuck i missed the convoke 😦

novel sky
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just rewind a bit

clear pulsar
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Sam's barely played SHadowlands at all, he's legit only been playing for like 2 weeks, doubt he plays anything other than fire mage @simple latch

lean zinc
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has anybody played any god comp this season?

stray sigil
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havent seen otk q anything but ww dk or ww mage

clear pulsar
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I don't think they've done any boomie comp practice

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I think they may try Mes Ret

stray sigil
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with what lol

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ret ww ?

weak hinge
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@stray sigil didnt they play TSG?

clear pulsar
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Idfk bro just send the big WOGs

simple latch
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convoke is gonna sweep and the nerfs will come just watch

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fuuccccck chanimal

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stooooopppp

stray sigil
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they have such a bad bunch of players

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to play ret

simple latch
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shhhhhhh

clear pulsar
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Good point

surreal elbow
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convoke is more problematic on boomie than on feral

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cuz highrolls on boomie kills you in 30% of a global

stray sigil
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they could ret mage

surreal elbow
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ferals doesnt 😂

stray sigil
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but idk lol

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ret ww looked like asshole when chun and thu played it

clear pulsar
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LMAO

novel sky
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LMAO

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what the fuck

weak hinge
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no covoke

pallid coral
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LMAO

weak hinge
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firemage

pallid coral
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HAHAHAHAHAHAH

clear pulsar
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It's because Feral doesn't have cds that buff Bite, while CA buffs Starsurge by a lot on top of BOAT, and Full Moon is instant damage whereas Feral Frenzy is a dot. @surreal elbow

stray sigil
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that was just combust

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sick design

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poggers

clear pulsar
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Chanimal legit didn't press any dmg button

stray sigil
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he was cloning

clear pulsar
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Yeah

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That was all combust

stray sigil
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and wealthy sent it

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ya he legit

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did nothing

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lol

surreal elbow
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thats tru @clear pulsar

stray sigil
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not 1 dmg sepll was cast by chan

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i feel like

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dmg breakdown

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is wrong

weak hinge
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... its whole match

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not until first kill

vital parcel
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omegalul

surreal elbow
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i legit get proc'd full moon for 20k on my bumhole and im sitting there like

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:|

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rly

stray sigil
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what does that even mean

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its whole match

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??

weak hinge
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whole game

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they kill 2 more people

clear pulsar
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Why do you think the damage breakdown is wrong?

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Lol

weak hinge
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dmg breakdown is not wrong

kindred galleon
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Haha

novel sky
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chan was starusrging after trill died

stray sigil
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it said chan did 66k

clear pulsar
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Of course

stray sigil
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unless they added up both games ?

clear pulsar
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They kept doing damage after Trill died

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Are you stupid?

weak hinge
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... u dumb?

clear pulsar
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I mean

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Wealthyman killed trill

stray sigil
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whats the point of that

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just show me

clear pulsar
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Then Chanimal Convoked

stray sigil
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the dmg

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to kil

clear pulsar
stray sigil
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idc about pad dmg

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after game is over

kindred galleon
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Ooool

clear pulsar
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Pls stop talking in my discord fuji

kindred galleon
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Loool

clear pulsar
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You're talk to Cope too much

stray sigil
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i mean look at breakdown

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ud think chan did a lot

clear pulsar
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I would like to see damage breakdowns during the game tho

stray sigil
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i just wanna see

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the dmg that mattered

vital parcel
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lmao

kindred galleon
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Please bring in a dmg meter

clear pulsar
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Like details has this option, I'd like to see it for each player on the bottom of the screen during the game real time

knotty ocean
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Hey guys, I'm very fresh with arena and pvp in general. I'm 205 boomkin with mostly pve gear, so low vers (7%). I struggle big time with surviving in arenas when i get focused. I try to get into bear and frenzied regen + renewal but i just get chonked down hard. is the vers handicapping me a lot ? i'm getting really stressed when focused so any tips apreciated. I try to root, stun, typhoon them away but they're instantly on me again

clear pulsar
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It'd be good yeah!?

vital parcel
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if kawhi wins vs otk, do we get boomie vs boomie?

clear pulsar
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@stray sigil what you think about what I said bro? I'd like to see that like

stray sigil
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who was the r word

simple latch
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supa is SO fuckin happy lol

stray sigil
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that said mage boomy

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was bad

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yesterday

clear pulsar
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Kawkaw

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He left the server

stray sigil
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dam unfort

clear pulsar
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Full spell breakdown real time for each player, like at the bottom of the screen

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Would be nice yeah!?

knotty ocean
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@clear pulsar Yes, been playing with mage/rogue .. I guess that's only good if I'm actually good X)

stray sigil
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theres no way they cant just show the dmg of wealthy there anyways

kindred galleon
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A dmgmeter would be fine tbh

narrow wadi
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how does guardian avoid getting capped on by rogue

clear pulsar
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No, boomie mage rogue triple dps in 3s isn't really a comp anyone would ever recommend you play regardless of skill level @knotty ocean

narrow wadi
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same thing happens every fucking time

stray sigil
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press skin

narrow wadi
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they drop smoke bomb

stray sigil
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with brambles

narrow wadi
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force into sap range

stray sigil
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sit on the flag

clear pulsar
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There is no good reason to play without a healer in 3s (protpala includes as a healer atm)

knotty ocean
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@clear pulsar In 2s 🙂

narrow wadi
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vanish, immediately sap and start capping

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blind if you trinket sap, cap if you don't trinket sap

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does brambles pulse interrupt cap?

stray sigil
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yes

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it does dmg

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will cancel the flag

clear pulsar
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Ok so rogue boomie has potential yes, but it is harder to execute cuz if you fuck up you die. With a healer, if you fuck up you just take longer to win, so to speak, so you have a lot more leeway to make mistakes, games last longer, you get more practice/playtime/chances to win.

clear pulsar
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You spin from max range with moonfire

stray sigil
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u can go on flag if u have skin up

clear pulsar
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Smoke bomb doesn't last long enough for rogue to solo cap

stray sigil
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when he vanishes

clear pulsar
#

Yeah that's true

stray sigil
#

u just go out of sap cap range

clear pulsar
#

You can do that too

stray sigil
#

and there u go

knotty ocean
#

@clear pulsar Thanks mate, I'll try to find myself a healer ❤️

clear pulsar
#

Also play the legacy of sleeper leggo for cc immunity

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30s straight

stray sigil
#

^

#

trinket zerk

#

chances he will blind

narrow wadi
#

Smoke bomb doesn't last long enough to get a cap off?

stray sigil
#

like a r word

#

when u trinket sap

clear pulsar
#

Smoke bomb lasts 5 seconds, cap is 6

narrow wadi
#

okay so just sit at range and wait for the moonfire

#

gotcha

clear pulsar
#

It's only useful for baiting people in range

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Or if they're 2 people

#

So they start capping and drop smoke bomb 1s later

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But if there are 2 people

#

You shoulda been yelling that 2 stealthies are missing for the last 30 seconds already

narrow wadi
#

nope I got solo capped on by rogue like a fucking shitter

clear pulsar
#

So if you get capped it's the peeler's fault

narrow wadi
#

bc I got baited into melee range

stray sigil
#

honestly

narrow wadi
#

by smoke bomb

stray sigil
#

guardian is very good

#

at sitting

clear pulsar
#

Yeah you don't have to go into melee range for smoke bomb, but if you do, Brambles should spin when you Barkskin

narrow wadi
#

okay, good info. thanks all

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should prob just play DH to push rating in rbgs or respec boomkin for it idk

clear pulsar
#

Legacy of the sleeper tho OP as fuck

stray sigil
#

ya play incarn + that leggo

narrow wadi
#

at 1800 now and no real reason anyone would invite guardian over DH

stray sigil
#

and ur good

clear pulsar
#

Yeah boomie is agreat sitter, treants and fury of elune, also OP as fuck in teamfight

#

Nah Guardian is good bro

pallid coral
#

I mean i think guardian is a better flag carry than vengeance

stray sigil
#

guardian is tankier

#

just cant zoom around the map

clear pulsar
#

DH needs to kite so much and there's a lot of room for your healers to fuck up

stray sigil
#

as well as dh

clear pulsar
#

When you're flag carrying

pallid coral
#

Guardian is tankier and also gets to go to flag for free

#

its so easy to punish dh at the start

clear pulsar
#

Yeah go in stealth, run back in incarn

#

Unccable

pallid coral
#

your whole team just runs at the dh

clear pulsar
#

Incarn also means FR has no cd almost

pallid coral
#

and what can he do

clear pulsar
#

Unkillable

pallid coral
#

also if you go guardian instead of veng

clear pulsar
stray sigil
#

if u go with veng dh

pallid coral
#

then it means on base maps you can either have a guardian defend (which is 8 million percent better than veng) or you can have a boomkin in teamfights (which is 8 million percent better than havoc)

stray sigil
#

ur stuck with a useless class

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on most maps

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LUL

pallid coral
#

yeah

#

exactly

stray sigil
#

u can just boomy fc honestrly

pallid coral
#

and i say this as somebody who usually plays with a havoc

narrow wadi
#

I'd need to learn to play balance

clear pulsar
#

Boomie FC with barkskin leggo

stray sigil
#

balance is like

narrow wadi
#

idk how hard it could be tho

stray sigil
#

pretty fucking simple

kindred galleon
#

CAvoke

stray sigil
#

as far as casters goes

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imo

clear pulsar
stray sigil
#

are u a pussy ?

clear pulsar
#

No ofc not

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Venthyr

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Got it

stray sigil
#

good

#

ur learnming

#

are u horde or alliance

clear pulsar
#

Alliance ofc

surreal elbow
#

venthyr is better pure tunneling wise

crude minnow
#

venthyr looks too fun. Ill prob swap from kyrian

stray sigil
#

fuck i was gonna q with u on my

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goblin bm hunter

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but fuck u then bucko

surreal elbow
#

but i believe kyrian to have more utilital purposes for 3s

clear pulsar
#

You should have both factions bro

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I have a druid on horde

surreal elbow
#

NAH horde only fam

clear pulsar
#

He's like 195 ilvl pretty deco

stray sigil
#

bro theres no races as ugly as goblin on alliance

clear pulsar
#

Utilital is a new word isn't it

#

I think you just made that up

surreal elbow
#

just give night elves to horde so i can meld and life would be perfect

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utility

stray sigil
#

excuse face

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hes a dirty mexican

#

his brain no good

surreal elbow
#

i meant utiliry

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utility*

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holy duck

#

fuck*

#

you get what i mean

clear pulsar
pallid coral
#

damn C9 are actually playing so proactively

#

its kinda pog

clear pulsar
#

Yeah super aggro ofc

#

But remember

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YOu need to be pro

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To play mage boomie

stray sigil
#

true

pallid coral
novel sky
#

big

stray sigil
#

1400 players cant press combust

#

and 1 shot ppl

#

nop

#

only 3.4 + players only

clear pulsar
#

Damn bro I'm so glad C9 smashed OTK

pallid coral
#

no pro player will ever let someone channel a full convoke lol

clear pulsar
#

I've been saying OTK has no chance of winning for like a whole week

pallid coral
weak hinge
#

@clear pulsar all you need for mageboomer is a pala that actually HOJs kill targets

clear pulsar
#

And then they smash the first 4 series

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Almost made me look like a whole ass fool

#

@weak hinge

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It's already weird ok?

stray sigil
#

^^^^^^^^

clear pulsar
#

ITS JUST WEIRD

stray sigil
#

hpal dont press hoj for cc

weak hinge
#

lol haha where did you get that quote from

stray sigil
#

nop

weak hinge
#

xD

simple latch
#

lol "nerf boomkins" pretty sure the fire mage killed both times those last two games??

devout frost
#

its tourney 1 so they got some shitters teams in @clear pulsar

stray sigil
#

that guy was arguing last nighgt

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he left prob

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after he saw a bunch of boomies

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in awc

clear pulsar
#

Fuji called him out perfectly, 100% a MLPala player last season

stray sigil
#

left in shame

devout frost
#

did they fix instapyro bug yet

clear pulsar
#

Damn supatease TALK YO SHIT

stray sigil
#

stop

clear pulsar
#

They dont wanna queue til they see the CHANB SLAY

stray sigil
#

we dont support supa around here

clear pulsar
#

Now everybody flock to Sid

stray sigil
#

stop it right now

clear pulsar
devout frost
#

stop being cringe

#

ffs

clear pulsar
#

Is only joke ok bro?

steel peak
#

@World of Warcraft (Firemage 100-0 a player solo) Everyone: Nerf Boomkins

devout frost
#

lost vs it 3 times yday

#

dont wanna play til fixed

clear pulsar
#

What's the bug about

stray sigil
#

so many mages got their 2.7 achievs the past few days

surreal elbow
#

they shouldve had a team with mitch jones fishing for clasm procs and the other 2 setting up and proteccing him

stray sigil
#

i wonder why

#

LUUL

surreal elbow
#

:kekw

clear pulsar
#

The pyro proc talent working with insta pyros?

surreal elbow
#

no

stray sigil
#

the bug abuse yes

clear pulsar
#

Idk what the bug is at all

stray sigil
#

they use pyro proc on immunity

#

and it saves it

#

or something

#

so on combust

#

the 1st pyro

#

will crit for 40k

devout frost
#

you do pyro proc on immunity before entering arena

stray sigil
#

something like that

devout frost
#

then accept queue

clear pulsar
#

Holy shit

#

That's fried I hope they all cop bans

stray sigil
#

bro smight and willy were qing alts

#

spam qin

devout frost
#

like 35k+ instant pyro every time

stray sigil
#

into that 1 mage

clear pulsar
#

My bud got a full month ban for abusing a world boss drop bug in early BFA that was like super low ilvl anyway

stray sigil
#

got his glad last ssn playing gpie cleave

#

and now hes bug abusing

clear pulsar
#

THat's a feelsbad

pallid coral
surreal elbow
#

man my disco priest friend carried a 168 ilvl mage to 1.7

stray sigil
#

ya that guy

#

also

surreal elbow
#

cuz the mage did enough damage

stray sigil
#

is mega giga sus

surreal elbow
#

that is not okay

stray sigil
#

LOL

devout frost
clear pulsar
#

Oh yeah I saw that clip I just couldn't tell what happened cuz twitter potato video quality

stray sigil
#

eh did it to a lot of streamers

#

that guy bug abused all night last night

#

to a bunch of streamers

gilded vine
#

HI folks,
I'm a Boomkin and totally new to PvP, playing Arena 2v2s. Aiming for 1400CR for 207 upgraded conquest to fill in the blanks from M+/Normal raid. Sitting at 1100CR just now after a few days.

Sorry for the Noob questions, but I'm not sure what to do once I get my opener off (mostly Convoke or CC). My daft as my question is... what do I do next?

I'm almost always targeted by the opposition melee, so I spend the rest of the Arena CCing or in Bear form surviving. Any time I try to peel and dps, I don't even get 2 wraths off. How am I meant to dps outside of the odd instant casts (sunfire,moonfire or the occasional star fall). The thing is, its left me feeling quite useless for the later half of an Arena match, and I would be really grateful for any advice. Thank you.

devout frost
#

if u got convoke off u already won?

clear pulsar
#

The idea of arena is that you want to line up crowd control with burst damage, and then in between you maintain your stuff (dots, etc) and survive, kite around, sit in bear form if you're getting bursted. Then whenever you can secure cross CC (like root + beam on healer, cyclone, etc) and a stun on kill target, you dump your astral power along with your partner's damage. If you can't go out of bear form ever you need a healer/better healer.

#

You just maintain dots, let Natures Balance and Shooting Stars fill your bar up while you sit bear, or spam wraths ofc to build up and cycle Eclipses if you're not being trained.

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Then you burst when you can cross CC

#

Never press Starfall my g

surreal elbow
#

@devout frost not necessarily

#

boomkin highrolls with full moon highly likely if it channels fully onto a player even with defensive cds

gilded vine
#

Thanks @clear pulsar . I play with my mate, Havok DH. It's not a good comp - but we're all about the fun and learning PvP trying to hit 1400.

No Starfall - check (thanks)
As long as I'm not being stupid in staying in Bear Form to survive when Im being stunned/trained on to soak.

devout frost
clear pulsar
#

I'd srsly consider playing resto bro

surreal elbow
#

convoke wont 100% kill someone even if it fully channels

devout frost
surreal elbow
#

but it depends

devout frost
surreal elbow
#

or were you reffering to someone else

#

saying it?

clear pulsar
#

You'll have an unnecessarily harder time playing havoc boomie in 2s, tho you can ofc climb to 1.4, 1.6, 1.8, maaaybe 2.1. I imagine the DH is Kyrian for pve yeah!? So that's already not fulfilling the DH burst potential.

devout frost
#

that statement doesnt say that convoke is guaranteed to kill?

surreal elbow
#

kill=win

devout frost
#

getting enemy to use more cooldowns than you did = win

clear pulsar
#

If you're hellbent on playing double dps, you need to be very efficient and tight with your kiting and defensives. Barkskin / renewal / typhoon / FR / darkness, everything good and efficient, don't take unnecessary damage, kite and cycle CC on enemy all the time.

devout frost
#

if u get a full channel convoke and cant close out ur fucking asleep

surreal elbow
#

i survived a full boomie convoke only by pressing survival instincts

#

cuz he low rolled

clear pulsar
clear pulsar
#

DONT SAY IT

devout frost
#

solstice has 600% proc rate during CA

clear pulsar
devout frost
surreal elbow
#

it wont becessarily nuke your bumhole

clear pulsar
#

OTK rly about to lose to 2 boomies in a row

gilded vine
#

Ok thanks, i'll give Resto a wee go @clear pulsar .
I heal in raids, so was trying something different (and Boomkin looks fun).
Appreciate all the advice.

surreal elbow
#

i had a boomie friend cast wrath in most of his convoke and he turned his pc off cuz it did no damage

#

it wont always fck someone 😂

devout frost
#

at least read up on the spell if u gonna spout shit

clear pulsar
#

I've never seen less than 3 surges in a full Convoke

#

Usually 4 or 5

devout frost
#

casting mostly wraths is statisically impossible

surreal elbow
#

well he started shouting that he got a shit ton of regrowths and wraths so idk bout that one

devout frost
#

it always casts maximum 6 heals

#

minimum 5

clear pulsar
#

It's entirely possible he was in noform

#

But regardless

devout frost
#

not running incarn pepeLaugh

surreal elbow
#

idk what talents hes running but he was sure as hell complaining 😂

clear pulsar
#

The thing is, it's not possible to get more than 7 Wraths, but it is also almost never gonna be a thing to get more Surges than Wraths pretty much.

#

So like

#

The variance isn't really that high

devout frost
#

and getting 6-7 wraths

#

is an anomaly

#

like screenshot worthy

clear pulsar
#

Other than procing a Full Moon or not, which doesn't do whole lot more than Surge, but gives you big AsP for follow up

tulip falcon
surreal elbow
#

HAHAHAHA

devout frost
#

wtf does convoke even mean

surreal elbow
#

no fucking clue

tulip falcon
#

its like summon or something

#

the actual word

clear pulsar
#

Isn't that a maghar racial?

pallid coral
#

is that real

devout frost
#

but it doesnt summon anything

pallid coral
#

rofl

surreal elbow
#

all ik is that it makes my kitty go brrr and my friend throw moons

tulip falcon
#

yea

devout frost
#

blizzard dumb af

clear pulsar
#

Convoke isn't necessarily summon

#

It's like call

surreal elbow
#

call of the spirits

clear pulsar
#

You call on the spirits to cast spells thru you

surreal elbow
#

hmmm

supple path
#

lil blue spirts swarm around you and spam spells

clear pulsar
#

The name makes sense yall are wilding

devout frost
#

📞🧑‍🦲 hello spirits? need some surges

clear pulsar
#

Seev danish brain too smol

devout frost
#

stop calling me danish

#

imbecile

clear pulsar
#

spirits pls full send

surreal elbow
#

we norwegians have a saying

#

danish ppl sound like they have a potato pummeled into their throats

clear pulsar
devout frost
#

u are mexican tho?

clear pulsar
#

And you are danish tho

devout frost
#

honduras isnt even a real country

clear pulsar
surreal elbow
#

wait where tf are majority of ppl here even on

#

NA or EU

clear pulsar
#

Idk even split really

pallid coral
#

danes smh

clear pulsar
#

Among the generally active people in #pvp

devout frost
#

i play on CN server

clear pulsar
#

Pve channels mostly EU

pallid coral
#

think it depends which pve channel

#

boomkins are really na

devout frost
#

?

pallid coral
#

?

clear pulsar
#

No way

devout frost
#

like no Na in boomkin

#

except ppl asking questions

clear pulsar
#

Ferals most EU for sure tho

pallid coral
#

? tettles

#

hippo

#

bora

#

davidq

devout frost
#

tettles is british no

pallid coral
#

no?

#

LMAO

clear pulsar
#

No only EU teeth

#

But he's NA

devout frost
#

looks british

pallid coral
#

I can't actualyl think of any EUs in boomkin

devout frost
#

idk who davidq or hippo is

pallid coral
#

off the top of my head

#

oh gastank is eu

devout frost
#

never seen them type in there

clear pulsar
#

Idk who hippo is

#

She said

surreal elbow
#

YOOOO

#

is @snupy here

#

oh nope

#

sadge

clear pulsar
#

Wut why do you want snupy

stone nest
#

Are you the forti from sulfuras

tulip falcon
#

lmao

devout frost
#

that would mean i would be playing druid

#

suka

clear pulsar
#

Learn french and talk to baguessidy

devout frost
surreal elbow
#

@stone nest im on Twisting Nether(EU)

clear pulsar
#

Learn uuuuh hawaiian?

devout frost
#

i had 2 french on my soloq team last week

#

fastest loss of my life

stone nest
pallid coral
#

classic WeirdChamp

surreal elbow
#

rly? ive had this name since late cata

#

but i aint no classic player

#

😅

pallid coral
#

HPAL WW 2V2

#

THE TRUE PVP END GAME

devout frost
#

cdew on hpal is oof

clear pulsar
#

Better ww + better hpal

#

Naturally

pallid coral
#

brain having wings as well

vast vapor
#

easy

devout frost
#

otk KEKW

stray sigil
#

who tf is hippo face

#

is that the 1 dude that qqs about pvp gear on twitter

#

i did see shenzy laugh at him

clear pulsar
#

He's the one and only feral player in MDI

#

But yeah I bet he qqs about pvp gear

#

All them pve hoes do

stray sigil
#

ya he bought 2.4

#

and qqs about pvp gear

clear pulsar
#

Easy to complain when you're not the only one making money off of boosts anymore

stray sigil
#

ZzzZzz

clear pulsar
#

Must have been great to only sell m+ boosts to all pvpers in BFA

#

And not have to care at all about any other game mode

stray sigil
#

oh ya i bet hes pist now uh

#

since m+ sucks donkey kongs dick

#

shit otk not shitting on everyone cuz of pve gear like on ladder

#

😮

#

close

#

kappa

clear pulsar
#

Not gonna lie bro I do love seeing pve heroes at 220+ ilvl unable to get 2.1, then buy a boost and pretend they aren't 16hundos

stray sigil
#

otk budget version of kawai

#

lol

pallid coral
#

Sam is good but man

#

having to play tourney games

vast vapor
#

sam is washed up

stray sigil
#

sam is a bit washed atm

pallid coral
#

when sam plays 0 wow

clear pulsar
#

It shows when you don't play the game except coming back the last week before tourney starts

stray sigil
#

he need to play more lol

pallid coral
#

must be rough

#

yeah

stray sigil
#

tease is

clear pulsar
#

Supatease?

stray sigil
#

a 2/10

#

not worth it

pallid coral
#

tease just floating between all the good mages

sterile mason
#

So what are the odds blizz will nerf convoke to the ground?

stray sigil
#

how can u fuck someone

#

that jah fucked

#

no

#

hell no

#

0 chance

sterile mason
#

Im not trolling im genuinely curious

stray sigil
#

id be scared my dick would fall off

devout frost
#

either they do or they dont

sterile mason
#

I see

clear pulsar
#

They either nerf it or they don't

#

Seev very smart player

sterile mason
#

So you guys arent quite sure either

pallid coral
#

hey Kawhi vs C9 will be interesting games at least

devout frost
#

will see a pve nerf long before a pvp nerf

clear pulsar
#

There is absolutely no chance Blizz flat out nerfs Convoke without nerfing Ret, Arms, WW and Fire first.

pallid coral
#

I would bet it will be nerfed

sterile mason
#

How does balance fair outside of convoke??

pallid coral
#

convoke that is

devout frost
#

cause its good in pve

stray sigil
#

chan is way too good in tourneys

devout frost
stray sigil
#

this man

pallid coral
#

because blizzard only nerf things

devout frost
#

convoke isnt good

stray sigil
#

can have my babies

pallid coral
#

that people complain about

clear pulsar
#

Nah it doesn't matter @devout frost they won't make Night Fae not bis for druid ever.

pallid coral
#

and people complain about convoke disproportionately to how op it is

clear pulsar
#

There'd be way more complaining if Night Fae suddenly wasn't bis for pve druids than there is now in pvp

sterile mason
#

I kind of want to play a boomie but if its too heavily reliant on convoke it puts me off

devout frost
#

its good at stomping worse players

stray sigil
#

its not too reliant on convoke

#

ur fine

devout frost
#

NF is not the best setup

vast vapor
#

its so easy to complain about convoke compared to multiple spell combinations

sterile mason
#

Oo i see

#

So boomies still slay without convoke?

clear pulsar
#

Boomie is in a great place regardless of Covenant, and Kyrian is generally more consistent/solid of a pick

devout frost
#

only pve nerds play convoke

clear pulsar
#

For pvp

vast vapor
#

boomies slay better without convoke

stray sigil
#

kyrian big dam all the time

#

nf big dam on setups

devout frost
#

NF actively makes you worse at the game

vast vapor
#

pentasurge to face hurts a lot with +15%

devout frost
#

And u get phial

stray sigil
#

i do feel that

clear pulsar
#

Bit more than that with mastery from Pelagos @vast vapor

stray sigil
#

playing convoke

devout frost
#

phial is busted

stray sigil
#

makes me tunnel too hard

#

on getting it off

devout frost
#

phial + celestial guardian yes please

clear pulsar
#

Playing Convoke makes me just run and offheal/spam cyclone/root way more personally until Convoke's back @stray sigil

stray sigil
#

@clear pulsar i try to set up the perfect convoke

clear pulsar
#

Literally can't see flare on that map

stray sigil
#

and end up killing people before anyways

pallid coral
#

yes

#

its so fucking aids

devout frost
#

blizzard remaking arenas? good joke

pallid coral
#

like the arena itself is fine

devout frost
#

it took them years to fix tolvir

clear pulsar
#

Ok so I looked it up

pallid coral
#

but the colouring and textures

#

are so dogshit

clear pulsar
#

To be fair Sam is a 2 also

#

And Jah is a 1

sterile mason
#

Alright thanks everyone ♥

stray sigil
#

ya but

pallid coral
#

sams kinda hot

stray sigil
#

tease getting passed around

#

wtf

#

glyph

#

take it back

rough marsh
# stray sigil on getting it off

How do you actually get anything else off - if you show your face you will have warrior/monk/everything else in your face the whole time. It's a little frustrating compared to how easy it is to hop on a ret/dh/warrior/unholy and just do uninterrupted damage

devout frost
stray sigil
#

oh makes sense

clear pulsar
#

Tease's definitely better looking than Jah by a fucking mile

#

Yall wild

zinc wadi
#

convoke is the problem PepeLaugh

pallid coral
#

lmao

#

this match is litterally

#

a mirror

devout frost
#

u guys

stray sigil
#

being better looking than a 2

devout frost
#

have shit taste

#

in men

stray sigil
#

sint something to brag about

#

face

clear pulsar
pallid coral
#

both teams spend whole first minute doing exact same thing

clear pulsar
#

We take the Ws we can bro

stray sigil
#

what w is that

clear pulsar
#

Upgrading from Jah

stray sigil
#

how are they getting shit on cd wise

#

so hard

#

lol

zinc wadi
#

Im so caught on the whole convoke pew pew argument

#

like yeah, convoke def does big dam

#

but it requires a good setup and everything

stray sigil
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i swear wmpal isnt that hard

zinc wadi
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I think it should be rewarded

stray sigil
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but ig

clear pulsar
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Wut cds are kinda even!?