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stone nest
That’s a chonky Druid
vast vapor
its over 100k with conq bm
late orchid
stone nest
That’s as rdruid?
vast vapor
nah as balance but its basicly the same
oath + guardian affinity + bm
- the conduit for extra hp for 4sec when u bear form
late orchid
Could feral be higher with the pvp talent for 15% more health in pvp?
vast vapor
I mean dont even need the oath exactly
tiny oar
Verdant infusion all the way fam
stone nest
Draught is an ok option if you want an offensive and defensive as well. Have to change your play style a bit.
For 2s
tiny oar
Ye I been trying out draught too for 2s it's good dam should be even better now that master shapeshift is fixed
stone nest
Exactly what I was thinking
I’d have to run oath instead of the other options though but convokes could be chonky af
edgy shale
wew I thought i had a lot of ppl ask "boomy?" when i applied to m+, but rbgs its even worse
please nerf boomkin
vast vapor
I wonder if draught is any good for feral with lunar inspiration
sounds good for me on paper to have all 3 dots +40%
edgy shale
ehh, but isn't the whole point of LI type build to rot? having dots on 1 person doesn't seem ideal for that
clear pulsar
I wonder if draught is any good for feral with lunar inspiration
Draught doesn't affect LI moonfire
vast vapor
lol
clear pulsar
edgy shale
wait really?
clear pulsar
Really
edgy shale
thats just patetic
clear pulsar
It is
vast vapor
thats a nice bait
clear pulsar
Blizz devs are ridiculous
So necro ferals just play circle even in single target
With LI
vast vapor
:(
clear pulsar
ehh, but isn't the whole point of LI type build to rot? having dots on 1 person ...
Thing is in my experience playing necro feral with Circle, you really don't have time/resources to maintain full dots on 2 diff targets
So you are mostly ST pressuring anyway
If Draught worked with LI it'd absolutely be better
Cuz either way you're just doing consistent ST damage but with Draught you'd be able to weave in Bites way more often
edgy shale
yeah with circle maintaing dots seems like a nightmare
clear pulsar
It's just not al ot of pressure
Overall damage was always good like
It's just no kill pressure
If Draught worked then it'd totally be better
naive marten
sup sup. I can't see info in the pin, but i've got basic question. Usually for 2v2 what class is best to duo que with boomie?
I just want an ez mount farm nothing spectacular
i play with resto druid but we are lacking on interupts and kill preasure is only when my convoke or CA is up
stone nest
Don’t boomies do better in 3s? I don’t have anything to back that up just a vibe.
vast vapor
boomy is decent with disci or hpal in 2s
nonhealers like protpala shadowpriest rogue and mage
anything that soloes ppl or can keep boomkin alive for a while
naive marten
yeah probably they are better in 3s, its just easier for me to que and find time for 2s
vast vapor
saw rdruid boomkin once over 2300 tho
just convoke and next game if no success, thats fast games
charred escarp
do you guys prefer kyrian or night fae for feral?
wheat laurel
what are some 3s comps you guys prefer as boomy rn
Ive been liking boomy/ret and boomy/aff a bit but i havnt played with alot outside that
edgy shale
I run NF cuz i need to for pve, but kyrian seems strong for feral. basically all ur FF goes are really strong and u can combo badge+kyrian+like 4 bites. convoke is always gonna be good w/ setups tho
boomy mage, boomy spriest, boomy ele
zinc mural
Would the best Embrace of the Loa be Bwonsamdi for PvP boomies? or Keep the crit
safe heart
after reading some stuff kyrian is starting to look tempting, i think convoke is very valuable but steadier pressure can be big
stark frigate
best healer for boomie spriest a shaman? paladins feel much more meta though
safe heart
i think paladin is best healer for everyone tbh
paladin is so broken that its hard for the comp to not work
bop+convoke will win alot of games, esp as boomkin
vagrant cloud
Do you feel that resto will keep up in the meta eventually ??
tiny oar
🙏
lime light
Kinda feel like IT is time
tiny oar
Ya fuck my little wog abuser time to pump the rdru
Break ankles against all odds like an absolute hero
pine compass
Playing Rdroo/ww monk but getting absolutely globalled by some double dps comps (rogue/mage but also offhealers like ret/feral ret/spriest etc.) - how do we win these?
forest kite
soo I havn't really done much pvp before but the 1800 gear looks pre amazing haha whats the easiest format to push to 1800 with?
as a boomie
bleak dune
Alright gamers, hope every one is having super fun during lockdowns etc.
Haven't played since WOTLK and even then I was quite bad at the game, quite like the BGs tho, play boomkin currently and getting to grips with the game, just wondered as I'm level 58 and have 14k honor what should I do regarding gear?
forest kite
don't know much but i'd suggest at least waiting till 60 before you spend the honor
earnest mason
guys, what are the right conduits for the pvp Kyrian Dreambinder build? And soulbind is Pelagos, right?
(Boomkin)
bleak dune
don't know much but i'd suggest at least waiting till 60 before you spend the ho...
Chances are I'll hit the 15k cap tho
earnest mason
as far as i know you can't buy honor gear before 60
bleak wigeon
Just deck yourself out with honor gear you can buy a full set with 15k
Leave out your desired leggo slot and whatever you buy with your first conquest points and upgrade those you bought
You will be 200+ in a week
earnest mason
but what i did on my alts was spend my first conquest points with neck and ring, since it gives so much versa and are really cheap. Then, spend your honor leveling the honor ring to max, weapon and the gear that gives your bis stat. And try to grab at least 1250 honor from rbgs or rated arenas before reset for the weekly chest
oh yeah dont buy the lego slot and do torghast
next week you got a 210 lego already
bitter harness
legendary
bitter harness
what can you spend it on before 60?
tardy hare
Nothing i think
bleak dune
No idea, just annoying that I could cap it before being able to spend, effectively making any other honor a waste
ya dig
bleak wigeon
Sounds like this is your first shadowland character so you really beed to finish the campaign to open up all the endgame mechanics, so don’t bother pvping for some time and you’r good
bleak wigeon
Long way to go
bleak wigeon
All of ardenweapd and revendreth you will be 60 long before that
Ardenweald is quick but count in a few hours for the first time going through campaign
bleak dune
Ok, I've got my pot of tea, my heated usb gaming gloves and my knuckles are fully cracked. LETS DO THIS
bleak wigeon
Just stick to the mainquest and don’t get sidetracked 😉 no dungeons or sidequests, no need for rewards with your honor in the pocket
bleak dune
yes sir
bleak wigeon
And you can enchant your honor gear right away, as you keep the enchants while you level them up
bleak dune
buzzing
ive got about 14k gold
i think thats sod all tho?
Whats the macro command to target self
/cast [target=player] ?
patent dove
[@self] works as well
wicked gust
What's the best soulbind for resto pvp?
lime light
@player
sly kernel
Do you know a youtube guide or a web guide to learn how to play in RBGs? I know Rdruids are very bad in Rbgs but I would like to learn and give a try..
lime light
Rdru is always good in rbgs
Its not like hpal that is mandatory
But its good enough
tiny oar
marileth for necro niya for fae @wicked gust
wicked gust
Ty!
wicked gust
Also, what conduits do I want to be prioing as night fae
tiny oar
cant sleep gotta queue buddy @lime light
lime light
Wtf
tiny oar
Also, what conduits do I want to be prioing as night fae
convoke NS CDR and clearcast regrowth ones are all good
wicked gust
Ta.
tiny oar
floral is weird cuz it can take a regrowth hot which is like 0 value
tiny oar
streams mostly
flop minpojke and nogard all stream r1 rdruid gameplay n are very helpful w/ answering questions
wicked gust
Will take a look
steel peak
Any boomie boys for 1800cr boomie only rbg group?
loud badge
@bitter harness preach
tall flicker
do you boomies like new moon for arenas?
tardy hare
no
primal bane
what was played on awc
tiny oar
sum combination of ww fire hpal / fire war hpal / bboomie fire hpal id assume
onyx tide
is Verdant still bis legendary for pvp resto?
supple path
only druid i saw yesterday was feral
exotic sequoia
Playing with a partner who has pod covenant ability for the first time, and it seems like pod doesn't show up on unitframes when it spawns
Anyone have a good way of healing it?
mild pelican
TWDB or BoaT for rbgs/keys?
arctic shale
sum combination of ww fire hpal / fire war hpal / bboomie fire hpal id assume
Don't think boomie was played at all. And don't expect it too be played either.
arctic shale
what was played on awc
Was a ton of arms ret comps
Some spriest, fire mage stuff as well
primal bane
i was thinking more of 50% rmp, 50% arms ret yeah
kinda surprised its a 1 day tourny
people hyped it like it was something big
tiny oar
is Verdant still bis legendary for pvp resto?
yes verdant bis
pallid coral
You're cracked if you think people won't play boomkin
Also there was a boomkin yesterday
@arctic shale
haughty compass
You go ahead and reroll, I hate when my spec is fotm
arctic shale
what
pallid coral
Anyone else basing literally everything on a quarter of a tourney weekend
pallid coral
You're the one reeing because boomkin wasn't played and "don't expect it too be played either"
M2kc are likely too play boomkin a lot of games ftr
haughty compass
Did prev make it?
pallid coral
Ye
tiny oar
bless our boi prev
chilly slate
how is night fae doing in pvp as resto ?
limber plover
hey, have anyone tried PVP 2v2 arena with resto druid(night fae)?
tardy hare
stone nest
That sounds like 100% dampening
tiny oar
<:peepoSmoke:585603668368424961>
same
i would advice ur buddy to respec havoc @limber plover
stone nest
Apparently the hunt hits harder in vengeance
tiny oar
placid mirage
u guys have a mouseover clone macro
tiny oar
I'll pray for u buddy soaz
gusty arrow
As balance, how much itlvl would I drop on an item, for having more versa?
chilly slate
is necro feral bad in pvp then?
tiny oar
is necro feral bad in pvp then?
Not ideal but shouldn't keep u from duelist/glad etc instead of kyrian
kindred galleon
Dmg
tiny oar
There are some night fae at 2600+ but havent heard of any necro ferals that are rly high
elder oyster
there are a lot of night fae 2600+
tiny oar
And more frequent n constant burst windows ya
kindred galleon
Consistent bleed/rot dmg is not good in burst meta
chilly slate
u think when meta will slow down necro will be better?
tiny oar
Prolly not no
limber plover
what is the basic strategy in pvp tho?
focus on killing one of target?
or distract another target which is not my partner's current attacking target?
tiny oar
As balance, how much itlvl would I drop on an item, for having more versa?
Anything like 10-15 ilvls higher just throw on is a decent general rule, other than that just max versa on highest ilvl pieces possible
winter spindle
we are trying DHtank+RestoDruid now tho
limber plover
we changed to havoc+rDruid
winter spindle
we changed to havoc+rDruid
tiny oar
what is the basic strategy in pvp tho?
Generally kill the squishiest person on the team yea, setup go's where they have to play 1v2 / 1v3 depending on bracket and your comp.
But like a melee cleave just throw em in a blender spear vortex double stun etc and cc heals.
chilly slate
i switched to necro, fuck it, better to play what feels good xD
limber plover
I see
tiny oar
i switched to necro, fuck it, better to play what feels good xD
U do you bud live ur best life I believe in u
chilly slate
❤️
last jackal
dare i try 2vs2 as boomkin & disc priest, we are not going insanely high
or get a rogue for 3s :p
tiny oar
Played against bean playing boomie hpriest they had some gnarly chastise go's, u could prolly make it work with a disc too tho ya @last jackal
ocean crystal
does race for horde druid make a big difference lower cr?
last jackal
ya
graceful olive
i don't like that our clone shares dr with their fear
ocean crystal
balance btw
tiny oar
War stomp clone always nice ya feel like it's not as insane as nelf tho, shouldn't really be the deciding factor in lower cr games
ocean crystal
thanks, im currently zandalari and was hoping to stay that way
last jackal
is the pod even worth it in arena?
Or stick with niya and the mastery 🙂
i mean, who miss the pod even.. i know it happens but rarely
tiny oar
Niya mastery a safer bet dmg wise ya
tiny oar
thanks, im currently zandalari and was hoping to stay that way
I was gonk gang s2 bfa also with 3x longstrider n feral aff literally +40% movespeed baseline in caster lol. Was fun times I liked it.
paper solar
Is holy priest viable in arena!?
tiny oar
how do you counter warrior+paladin?
Play guardian aff kite well, ur dh gets burns assuming it's a hpal and out dampen em.
frozen crane
Whats the "easiest" way to climb rating 2v2s? as resto?
Thats what i am currently guessing, couldnt care less for pvp but want those sweet items
limber plover
Play guardian aff kite well, ur dh gets burns assuming it's a hpal and out dampe...
thanks, this really useful
tiny oar
Resto would be easiest in the sense that you'll have faster queues and can improve faster cuz more games.
but skill wise /mechanically both dps specs are fine for it as well. @nabb
frozen crane
Alright Ty i think i go with resto
Like i am a decent pve player but pvp i spent maybe a total of 5 hours
in all my years of playing
limber plover
I went from 0 to 1000 ranking score in one hour lol
vital parcel
could someone explain to me how oath of the elder druid works?
tiny oar
boomie seems popular
vital parcel
Does it only give bonus to the affinity form u have specced or all forms?
last jackal
wtf is this rapid fire
people laugh about convoke
rapid fire doing 23k in a second lol
😄
tiny oar
Does it only give bonus to the affinity form u have specced or all forms?
Whatever you're talented into and your spec affinity as well. So if you're resto with feral aff you get bonus to yseras and feline swiftness too etc.
vital parcel
okey, but lets say im resto, whenever i leave feral form do i also get the + healing or just for the feral damage?
tiny oar
The active hotw portion will only be for feral dmg ya.
You'll keep the buff for the full duration even if you shift out tho.
vital parcel
Cool, thanks!
Thinking of making either oath or the barkskin as a multi spec defensive legendary
last jackal
total immunitys in arena is fucked imo
sonic kestrel
Playing with a partner who has pod covenant ability for the first time, and it s...
Click on it
slim robin
how do you counter warrior+paladin?
Ret/Arms or Ret/Arms/Disc is so annoying to play against
tulip falcon
what is the point of this Eiya person on AWC honestly
livid wasp
I hope theyll do some changes after awc like some people have said
pallid coral
main job of a hoist is to keep the conversation going etc
basically what sjokz does for lec
or waht day9/richcampbell have done for dota tournaments
lime light
anyone else
feels weird
when locks CB cast
is normal
😉
not almost instant
also everyone plays +30 all stats on chest
whats better in pure pve sim
eternal skirm or 30 stats
robust valve
so...kinda sad im even asking this question but, is it worth changing to kirian from night fae? i progression raid and also push rbg's n ganna start pushing 3's
last jackal
ouch, same old frustration pvp, not done this since wotlk times 😄
never gonna change me lol 😄
daring sparrow
born of the wilds or tireless pursuit for feral in 2s?
loud badge
I see there is a boomy pvp guide pinned. Is there a similar Resto guide? Thanks!
loud badge
@calm hollow Check the pins, there's a bunch there - lol
calm hollow
just said it
loud badge
lol we were typing at the same time
viral granite
stuck talon
niya more aggro, dreamweaver more defensive /shrug
vast vapor
hmm I feel like I could just macro NS with regrowth but should I really have one for root too
also is germination just bad compared to flourish?
fierce zodiac
What's the legendary pvp bear tank wants?
calm hollow
Bear tank in pvp? Lol
vital parcel
ever heard of rbg?
surreal heron
what's a flag carry 
tulip falcon
What's the legendary pvp bear tank wants?
sleeper if you're playing it in RBG
forest kite
Hey guys im new to boomkin and druid.
Is it normal that it feels weird to me having to waste a global on moonkin form after coming out of stealth to open?
like am I missing something there?
pallid coral
I'm kind of surprised that ww dk is beating ww ret
clear pulsar
Heartstopper aura is oppressive af
lime light
ret is barelly viable
novel sky
Those were fun games to watch
haughty compass
Better players won
trim moth
@forest kite CA/Incarn will automatically put you in moonkin when you pop it. That helps.
harsh surge
forest kite
<@456226577798135808> CA/Incarn will automatically put you in moonkin when you p...
What is CA and incarn? Im new and only lvl 38 😦
surreal loom
lime light
they should bug it even more
so maybe blizzurd fix it one day
and i wont be tired after 10 min of quing with disc
was there any other healer than hpal
in NA
tulip falcon
lmao they just confused the fuck outta her
with that joke
this mc bug happening
in the middle of awc
hopefully blizz finally see it now?
livid wasp
they know its happening but theyre too incompetent to know how to fix the bug
ive come to that conclusion
tulip falcon
im surprised they allow it
to even continue
like the match
man is literally teleporting everywhere
winter spindle
Why doesn’t incap roar trigger the soothing voice effect from dream weaver?
It’s supposed to trigger on all roots, stuns and incapacitating effects
bleak dune
right I've got myself the full starter pvp set
Sinful Aspirant
Whats the best thing to upgrade firsT?
I'm moonkin
wind rock
yo guys, how do we stop the hunt from a dh
trim moth
What is CA and incarn? Im new and only lvl 38 😦
You get it at level 39
wind rock
against any dh comp we play it just kills our boomy
queen holly
what pvp talents do you take as resto vs caster in 2s
like ele + healer or fire mage + healer
tulip falcon
yes
sick latch
Has there been a boomy game in awc ?
misty horizon
for Feral 2s as Kyrian, if you Kindred your healer, does popping the 1min CD give you a damage buff or is it jus tthe heal share thing?
true pendant
sick latch
if it was today do you guys have a timestamp ? can't find it
also this barkskin leggo does seem very nice defensively
tulip falcon
if it was today do you guys have a timestamp ? can't find it
he plays mage at start
then swaps later
sick latch
Thanks, first boomy game is 36:10 for those interested
gusty phoenix
is this good for low iq rbg boomy?
tardy hare
starlord instead of incarn
jade vault
People wanna talk about seeing Druids everywhere, I keep running into WWs and Im struggling vs them. How do you deal with almost 100% uptime they have with such high dps?
sick latch
and mass root is great
sick latch
there is not a monk every game
jade vault
Literally, yes, every game this morning has had 2 to 3 WWers and at least 2 ret pallies. I should be more clear Im doing BGs and RBGs
I mean, I know convoke is great, but not as good as Pally and WWer pure burst on geared targets.
forest kite
btw, Would you guys save conquest points for the weapon? on a new lvl60 alt? ping me
forest kite
You get it at level 39
CA does not automatically put you in Moonkin 😦
tardy hare
idk conduits for boomy
trim moth
CA does not automatically put you in Moonkin 😦
Is it only incarn?
forest kite
idk lol i dont play druid
left spindle
Mass root is as much for their clones/pet as it is for the ww
lyric crag
anyone have some delay and lose their convoke in the wrong form because it dont put u in moonkin fast enough?
sweet stratus
hey, for balance in RBG, what talents would u reccomend?
sick latch
Well that awc boomy game is just painful to watch
crimson hound
i currently play boomy/ww/heal in 3s around 2k mmr. i play night fae currently, but i feel like it gets really hard to get good convokes off with the melee meta? would i get punished hard if i tried kyrian for a week or so?
vital parcel
anyone have some delay and lose their convoke in the wrong form because it dont ...
what?
elder oyster
I think that we should give more value to forcing teh enemy in saving their kicks for convoke
devout frost
Mass root just gets Tiger's Lusted
you root the images/tiger
thats where the dps is
they cant cleanse both
versed chasm
devout frost
int > vers
livid wasp
haah just kill seed 
youre a terrible team if you cant even kill seed
tepid spoke
do u need to keep the rating to upgrade items?
or can you lose it and still upgrade to your best rating in the season
anyone know
clear pulsar
Need the cr afaik
tardy hare
Need the rating yes
stray sigil
need cr dont need win like vault
winter spindle
you root the images/tiger
If you root the images the WW actually does less dmg because it’s split between all 3
winter spindle
i currently play boomy/ww/heal in 3s around 2k mmr. i play night fae currently, ...
Really? I find convoke easier to get off playing with a ww because the melee are always on him..
devout frost
If you root the images the WW actually does less dmg because it’s split between ...
yes thats the point lol
images is majority of their burst
if images is rooted their burst is managable
stark iris
legacy of the sleeper?
pallid coral
yes
stark iris
is all of this written down anywhere I cant seem to find anything online (thank you for answering)
queen copper
anyone have some delay and lose their convoke in the wrong form because it dont ...
what do u mean. dont convoke out of moonkin. incarn will put you in insta. CA does not
chrome panther
legacy of the sleeper is actually so toxic
nothing like guardian fastcaps as hes immune to cc the entire way across the map
kindred galleon
i currently play boomy/ww/heal in 3s around 2k mmr. i play night fae currently, ...
I play the same comp an feel strong against melee and rmx, but weak against castercleave
2.1mmr
crimson hound
i was drunk typing that, its not about the melee. its about people having eyes that makes it harder not hard :p
kindred galleon
XD
crimson hound
its not as effortless to win anymore
crimson hound
so are people finding kyrian fun? i see a lot of high rated people play it. im curious how good it performs
kindred galleon
^
safe heart
yeah kyrian is definitely looking better these days but its still really tough because convoke is a powerful tool even defensively
devout frost
yeah kyrian is definitely looking better these days but its still really tough b...
?
NF does not beat out kyrian in any scenario except for when ur enemy is worse than you
safe heart
my opinion on convoke vs kyrian is very different for boomkin personally
for feral atleast im starting to think kryian can be pretty sick for consistant pressure
devout frost
Convoke is not better offensively than bond and not better defensively than Phial
crimson hound
@devout frost do you think pushing 2.4k would be easier as kyrian? im 2.3k lsxp and would like to go that extra 100 rating this season
devout frost
<@!506387240155480075> do you think pushing 2.4k would be easier as kyrian? im 2...
as feral or boomie?
crimson hound
boomie
devout frost
While I think Kyrian is better for boomie
NF can inflate your rank if your a worse player
so just switching wont instantly make you 2.4k
because you need to remove crutch gameplay you created with NF
but its not like kyrian is especially advanced either
makes you able to burst more often and a lot more flexible with your burst so u dont get shut down by a single interrupt
safe heart
thats kindof appealing tho
crimson hound
ye but im not a 1400 exp player randomly hitting 2k mmr now cos convoke :p im lsxp 2.3k just started playing with 195-200 ilvl
i just dont like the feeling of going into team comps like lock/spriest/rsham glhf finding a good convoke window vs that
devout frost
The only scenario I would consider convoke even/ahead is in rbgs
maiden trout
Convoke might be my favorite thing in the game right now, so fun. That being said I know I’ll need to go Kyrian eventually... to easy to shut down by good players.
candid dragon
It's more just the random nukes and "Oh crap did that actually just happen?!" feeling.
devout frost
fun for me is executing correctly and being rewarded for it
maiden trout
I’m referring to all content. Pve, PvP, Torg. And it’s fun to be able to get the right set up... then watch people disappear. Hilarious when it works
devout frost
not getting the correct dice roll required for highest burst
maiden trout
It’s not all rng. Requires right timing and setup. Then you’re rewarded for it
Even if you get a “bad convoke”, if it’s a full one, you get rewarded with a lot of resources to dump.
devout frost
Everything requires right timing and setup, pressing a button that plays for you just isnt fun imo
crimson hound
whats the best lego for kyrian?
maiden trout
I am curious what playstyle looks like for Kyrian boomies tho. Since NF boomies your burst is mostly focussed around CA + convoke. How does Kyrian feel?
devout frost
and if u get a full convoke in pvp u already killed someone
devout frost
I am curious what playstyle looks like for Kyrian boomies tho. Since NF boomies ...
you just burst every minute when bond is up
devout frost
whats the best lego for kyrian?
for what spec
crimson hound
still boomie :p
maiden trout
And your burst requires you to get into eclipse and dump SS? That’s hard-ish to do in arena right?
Also @devout frost you don’t have to like convoke, not trying to convince you of it. I feel like most people who don’t play Druid Nf hate convoke.
devout frost
And your burst requires you to get into eclipse and dump SS? That’s hard-ish to ...
this section of glyph vid goes through it @crimson hound
maiden trout
Thanks!
safe heart
i like to hear opinions on both, im a 1500 feral and kinda stuck there atm, and been eyeing kyrian swap for alot of the reasons ppl were saying. Feels like convoke goes almost always get botched somehow but on one hand, theyre amazing if you set it up right
i went NF first because of snupy , he made a video about it that kinda sold it to me
but after playing with nf this far, just considering alternatives
how much value does the 1minute goes you get from kyrian come out to? im curious if its underwhelming or if it works well and can get cds
devout frost
idk i dont play feral
so dont know how cd's line up
but its just a 15% dps amp every 60s
edgy shale
u basically get a go w/ badge/kyrian/FF every minute
safe heart
^^
edgy shale
and between those goes just cc people
devout frost
and phial is dumb op
safe heart
but im wondering if those 1 minute goes are applying enough pressure that youll shake the enemy team loose after 1 or 2
devout frost
not as op for feral as for boomie but still op
safe heart
because after 1 or 2 , youll be coming back up on berserk
the way i play now is like berserk opener to get what we can, keep fighting while looking for a convoke opening and then if that fails, were just waiting till berserk is back
then trying to do mini-go's with frenzy/TF
but if i was kyrian, we could pack kyrian buff into those mini go's and make them less ignorable
but this is just my theorycraft on it, could actually be totally wrong here
maiden trout
Wait I keep seeing you call the Kyrian ability a 15% dmg amp. Does that mean we prefer to cast on ourself vs our teammates?
devout frost
yes
safe heart
that is what i assume most ppl are doing
crude minnow
Isn't the max total damage from the bonded buff 20% of the dps who did the lower damage?
clear pulsar
In theory the total damage will be 40% of who did hte lower damage
In practice it'll be a lot less cuz of timing of burst
Even if you 2 do burst together without peels
It's a lot less than that
And in pvp you or both will get peeled so it's not good at all
Just always bond yourself
Solid, consistent buff, good dam
tropic schooner
4th pin
devout frost
Any Balance guides available?
pins
silent mauve
Ah! A video guide mb
Was wondering if there was an alternate written one to the one that's broken rn
devout frost
Was wondering if there was an alternate written one to the one that's broken rn
yes below the video guide
it is written
placid mirage
aint got nunna dat
silent mauve
Ah forgive me, I mained warrior so Int isn't my prio stat yet
urban owl
Resto rbg pvp talents?
astral ginkgo
so balance.. i have 23% vers, 21% mastery, 8% haste. how much haste should i aim for?
okay i guess was more so wondering where others are sitting
teal hinge
Grats nerd
tiny oar
Full haste vers gear should be somewhere around 20 haste 23ish vers atm I think
My rdruid is 20 haste 22 versa
But doesn't rly matter if ur missing a few pieces like glyph said wont keep u from x rating
tiny oar
Resto rbg pvp talents?
Resin focused growth n early spring is fine
halcyon raptor
what do you guys think the best boomie climbin comps are?
tranquil canopy
boomie/ww boomie/sp
lusty locust
I played a few rbgs with a very good boomy today, I believe he was Kyrian and was playing full moon aswell
The guy was target calling his full moon he was just legit oneshotting someone every 1 mn.
autumn pine
I swear the fix they added for convoke not targeting mass entangled enemies is still bugged
Mass root + beam into incarn elune convoke with all heals...
only in RBG's
test dummy works fine
it's so troll tho
forest kite
I’m having so much trouble as a NF boomy lol only team I’ve ever been able to coordinate burst / cc windows was with a rogue in 2s
Highest this season is only 1650 2s when I used to get 1800 really fast
umbral iris
anyone know the best boomkin legendary?
clear pulsar
Looks like you weren't in boomkin form to begin with
If it's casting Wraths then it's targeting someone yes!?
If there was no one to target, you'd ONLY be casting heals
tiny oar
Phat wild growths dude
stone nest
i see you with that fat flourish
clear pulsar
weird no moonfire though
The weakaura can't actually know for sure all the casts, it just infers it during the convoke, so very often it won't include everything
stray sigil
oh i thought that was trufigcd
stray sigil
pve ui
clear pulsar
Cuz convoke doesn't add any flags to the spells on combat log
stray sigil
tiny oar
clear pulsar
tiny oar
Señor f2f
surreal heron
tiny oar
We love u f2f
autumn pine
this is my macro tho
incarn elune should be putting me in boomkin form before convoke
tepid spoke
?
convoke doesnt hit rooted targets
if you root beam someone and you convoke them it will ignore them and just heal if theres no target available
clear pulsar
They reverted the change
autumn pine
was that posted on the forums?
autumn pine
i see because it wasnt fixed yet or something?
forest kite
has anyone elses blades edge arena been bugging out lately?
cant connect
it lags the fuck out and we lose the game and lose CR
freezes up
solemn sierra
question, if i receive 1600 rating in 2s, but worry i may fall out of bracket if i grind future honor for vaults in that range, is it smarter to grind the honor in pug rbg and maintain the 1600 in arena rating? or does it give you rewards based on highest rating achieved in season?
autumn pine
whats weird is that it works vs a target dummy
clear pulsar
question, if i receive 1600 rating in 2s, but worry i may fall out of bracket if...
Yes
tepid spoke
question, if i receive 1600 rating in 2s, but worry i may fall out of bracket if...
vault reward is highest rating in the week
but it doesnt matter since you can upgrade with honor the item you get
as long as you keep your rating in 2s
blissful belfry
Hey, if you convoke with no valid targets, it will pop healing spells. Now, if i root beam a healer, warth him (once or.twice to break the root) and convoke when the wrath are mid air. Convoke eill heal first, but then will it bruteforce the rest of the channel as damage spells since it had reached its quota of healing spells? Im basically asking if we can bait the healing spells first ti have a more condensed dmg windoe
fair vector
Whats the best way to get 1600 rating if you're a noob, besides buying a boost?
twilit siren
what's mc bug?
fair vector
Ive been running BG's at around 1500 for like 3 days and its so shite to pub it. It takes way too much time to gain nothing in my experience
tiny oar
Whats the best way to get 1600 rating if you're a noob, besides buying a boost?
2s with a healer that you can just spam q with every day
neat arch
How big is the disadvantage playing NF resto compared to necro?
tiny oar
A fully hotted swarm CW swiftmend extend will put your cen ward at like top 2 or 3 slot for healing in a match so it's pretty significant throughput. Just depends on your goals / what you care to focus on more, pve or pvp.
fair vector
Yeah arena def sounds easier, I'm not confident in my feral pvp ability tho
kindred galleon
Practice makes perfect
fair vector
I should yeah
stable halo
When playing feral in PvP, you want to open and try to get trinket/defensives and then reset right? But what if when you reset they just go ham for your healer? Should you come back to peel and give away the reset?? I can't find myself knowing after they use trinkets or CDs who to focus, like with hpala looks like they are more tanky after CDs are off than before CDs
fair vector
Maybe ill try to find a mentor in guild with an alt
It feels daunting to enter arena, so much I dont know about other classes
clear pulsar
You dont run and go for a reset with a healer
You kite if enemy has cds and is hitting you
tardy hare
You'd also reset with your healer if you'd ever do it
You cant just run away leaving him for death
stable halo
But I feel like after I use zerk nd get the defensives/trinket, of I miss convoke there is no chance for me to get a kill... Like the pressure I apply is minimal, should I just try to do damage on cc?
Oh yeah, then just peel... It's just that when I'm off CDs I get constant pressure specially from warr/monks that I feel useless
With zerk I'm always really close to get a kill, I always open with rake,rip, TF+Berserk, FF, FBFB and they melt
After that everything just falls off
candid lion
@neat arch honestly night fae is a lot better for 2v2, than necrolord! It’s very versatile, and allows you to win/save games 🙂
wanton cobalt
question, how does convoke pair up with aura mastery? Also what is that bubble paladins can put on others?
devout frost
question, how does convoke pair up with aura mastery? Also what is that bubble p...
Blessing of Protection
Aura Mastery makes whole team immune to interrupts and silences for 8s if paladin is running concentration aura
wanton cobalt
yeah that's what I meant
so the bubble is bop afterall?
It looked very much like a regular bubble
but on others
bitter harness
was it a prot pala
wanton cobalt
idk maybe
wanton cobalt
I tried running aura mastery/conc 2s but a priest managed to silence me through it (allegedly it was up, now i'm not so sure)
raw gyro
is necrolords a choice for resto druids pvp, right?
devout frost
is necrolords a choice for resto druids pvp, right?
ye
raw gyro
ty
dark shell
Hi Guys in BFA S2 i reached 2848 in 3s AS feral but now i am at 1.5 CR already 35 Games in 2s hardly manage top climb.. i am NF and try to make proper goes With convoke anf everything.. i am Not yoloing anything but still struggle.. i have 198 ilvl With a 184 weapon. Am in Just bad? Or is feral in a absolute shitty Spot right now? Or do i simply Need More gear?? Also does the weapon scaling means alot for feral atm??
primal bane
you need more gear 198 is gearlet
also make sure to abuse meta classes, offhealers and high burst dds are the best
tiny oar
Ty tian
wanton cobalt
I won 118 matches and I'm still 1.25k 🙂
tiny oar
I'll pray for u dakako
wanton cobalt
T-T and I just want my high ilvl pvp items
thank
when ppl say "convoke will carry you"
like how when I never have a right moment to cast it
tardy hare
As feral or as boomy
wanton cobalt
when I do, they imagine a random stun, successfully los me or use their bubbles, iceblocks idk
wanton cobalt
by the time we bait everything out of them, we're dead
primal bane
soundslike you have shit teammates
if the only way you can win is getting convoke one shots, ask yourself wtf is your team there for
wanton cobalt
I should watch more boomy plays tbh
lime light
there is nothing u are doing properly
thats the truth
try doing everything reward
that u are doing right now
wanton cobalt
well obviously
tardy hare
🤦🏼♂️
How tf y'all always this stupid
No
U never dropped to like 500 mmr to stomp on kids?
Or stomp on kids OMEGAHARD instead of normal stomp
Yeah u can lose rating at any rating
If ur mmr is low
junior sable
Is anyone potent enough, to give some tips for a new 2v2 duo starting out. Gonna be playing Feral/Rshamy in 2s. How should we approach in playstyle?
stable sluice
Mastery
chrome pond
So vers > mastery > haste > crit or vers > mastery > crit > haste?
hollow cairn
but in icy veins it says vers>haste>mastery?
stable sluice
icy veins is ass and also it’s probably not for pvp
devout frost
So vers > mastery > haste > crit or vers > mastery > crit > haste?
int > vers > mast/haste
chrome pond
Okey so would you rather choose "Sinful Aspirant Badge" which gives haste over "Sinful gladiator Badge" which gives crit?
But Gladiator badge is for conquest which can be upgraded more
dark shell
Play BM trinket
chrome pond
Sorry for asking but what is BM trinket?
chrome pond
Is that the best trinket for balance?
chrome pond
Thx guys
stable sluice
^
tiny oar
dont play bm like beta
tiny oar
triple barrier all the way across the sky
solemn flower
how do you deal with mmr? went from 160 cr per game to 15 now ...
I was in a CR-appropriate group as well
tardy hare
you can only get 20~ max after 1500.
solemn flower
oh, so that's just as intended then.
tardy hare
ye
solemn flower
then 1800 might take longer than anticipated ...
this is rbg btw, but guess it's the same?
tardy hare
yes
tulip falcon
yea your rating gain depends on your mmr
solemn flower
no more rbg with my low friends then I guess
tulip falcon
and its 20 max which assumes you are beating teams quite a bit higher mmr than yourself
tardy hare
ye
tulip falcon
otherwise its less if its similar mmr
solemn flower
lost 19 in a match with them yesterday, thought that was fine but now i see it's not
but good to know, then i know how to gauge if my group is appropriate or not
my poor friend is at 1500, while i manged to go straight from 14 to 16
slender rampart
There is an"internal" mmr given to teams listed at the bottom right after the match. So your CR could be 1500 but the team is on a win streak so your internal will be like 1750. You'll get paired with such and won extra cr. It works the other way too. Lose a bunch and your internal will drop and you'll lose more then normal
solemn flower
yeah, I just didn't know about the 1500-cap for high rating gains
forest kite
when is the next xpac coming? shadowlands suck
solemn flower
yeah, I figured it would stabilize at some point, just hoped it would be a gradual thing to at least 1800 : P
cause I want upgrades but Im trash at arena ...
tiny oar
u can perma suck at 1400 and still have like 207 ilvl i feel like atm
solemn flower
that's my life, 206 in pvp now and me and my friend feel hardstuck at 1400
I feel like i got 1400 in bfa just my dicking around randomqueueuing with my friends
dusty needle
dude where are the nerfs man
like idc if they nerf moonkins just nerf the dumb shit man
its so aids right now
solemn flower
I main DH as well, so yeah ...
devout frost
when is the next xpac coming? shadowlands suck
around early 2023
fervent imp
Bg doing some high content, with 215 ilvl u’ll get like 35k
tardy hare
these people getting outdmg'd by 30 ilvl lower feral druid need to reconcider their life choices
smh
stable sluice
What is this boomy starting room arena bug everyone is talking about
tiny oar
embarrassing
fervent gull
what does he means? a 36k insta-crit looks legit to me
fervent gull
i was being sacrastic 😦
lime light
but he is making it instant
fervent gull
is it worth taking the bell into bgs as balance? or rather have the medallion for the 40% vers dmg increase?
chrome panther
you proc pyroclasm out of arena and use it on an immune target
it eats the proc but stores the damage into whatever next pyro you use, instant or not.
you can thank mitchjones doing it on stream to 12k viewers for that
chrome panther
is it worth taking the bell into bgs as balance? or rather have the medallion fo...
RBGs probably not, but regular BGs who cares, its all memes anyways.
vast vapor
its just great that they finally found the bug for mainstream so it actually gets fixed
got oneshot by mages 2 weeks ago already by that bug
chrome panther
Already taking too long imo, just disable the talent immediately
Should've been done the second it got shown to 12000 redacted word mages dreaming of their glad title
tiny oar
xd
glad wadi
When healing in pvp as resto is it best to spam rejuv or regrowth when in Incarn?
tiny oar
play soul not incarn
chrome musk
for balance is it preferred to have a 2 hand or a one hand and off hand weapon? thanks
glad wadi
for balance is it preferred to have a 2 hand or a one hand and off hand weapon? ...
i dont think that matters, whatever gives you the best dps
glad wadi
play soul not incarn
I tried doing that for a rbg yesterday but it felt super awkward.
I'm using this + Verdant Infusion
tiny oar
for rbgs tree's prolly fine for big team fights yea, could play either tbh. blanket rejuvs in tree ans throw a WG in there somewhere
glad wadi
I switch the Reactive Resin depending on the team comp btw.
tiny oar
drlongdong lmao what a good name
glad wadi
So regrowths not worth casting at all?
lime light
@tiny oar can i get lego pattern in raid finder KEKW?
chrome panther
yes
blissful belfry
That boomy is double on use tho, he has no trinket. Just gotta cc him once in the trink overlap
tiny oar
<@!237412116024393728> can i get lego pattern in raid finder KEKW?
idk buddy i havent queued lfr since legion lol
glad wadi
<@!237412116024393728> can i get lego pattern in raid finder KEKW?
the patterns are on the loottable in the journal so yeah
gleaming flicker
Tickle basement in Goldshire
gleaming flicker
tickle the person in the basement for 10 gold
Then go to the Valley of Honor and tickle a vulpera
Actual truths: get skinning and enchanting
bank 700k gold a week
or a day if you are diligent
tiny oar
or buy a wow token n be whale 4 blizz
stable sluice
what are tokens goin for rn
gleaming flicker
Someone was selling glad carry for 15mil roughly $2400 usd
told them to delete WoW
gleaming flicker
hecc if I know, soon reported them for spam
devout frost
Someone was selling glad carry for 15mil roughly $2400 usd
sounds reasonable
gold is worth less than the blizzard conversion rate since its easier to come by and there is no ingame taxsystem
gleaming flicker
I think pricing should be negotiable depending on gear/experience and truly people want to pay for lessons on how to be better in pvp more than carries
fossil sundial
Whats the best 2's team with a resto druid?
candid moth
solid cipher
what's the best healer in 2s with balance ? hpala ? resto shaman ?
Also, is it working better with a healer or with a dps ? I'm trying to reach 2100, around 1900 now
grand chasm
Any zandalari feral here ? Which loa is the best for pvp ?
lime light
is eiya decent without bull piercing
ruby walrus
Have any of my RBG friends ran the pvp talent disentanglement? My group wants to try it but I feel like its just trash
1.7 sec snare removal seems bad
compared to what id be giving up
gusty phoenix
I see healers including resto druids running 6% mana chest enchant in rbgs, that's stupid right?
wicked gust
I dunno, I kind of run oom in long fights over objectives
Sometimes a WW in BFG, or BS fight in AB can go on for a loooooong time.
gusty phoenix
well the logic for pve is with 10 more int you just get more healing done than the 6% mana would give you
is that not true in rbgs?
wicked gust
Is that logic true...?
gusty phoenix
yes, 10 more int is more healing than 6% mana for resto druids in raid
wicked gust
10 int is like what less than 1% of int.
gusty phoenix
I'm very sure about that
gusty phoenix
6% more resource is not 6% more casts
wicked gust
Doesn't need to be.
Doesn't need to be much to be more than less than 1% throughput
but at either rate
you get less mana regen in pvp
900 in rated pvp vs 2000 in pve.
gusty phoenix
you get less mana regen in pvp
how much less?
that makes sense to why it could be better
wicked gust
It really hurts.
primal bane
healers do be ruining the fun of pvp when played very well
everytime pvp in this game is unfun is when healing is incredibly easy to do and can outheal any damage
and when literal one shots exist in the game
wicked gust
I definitely remember extremes of both
In Mists, resto druid felt absolutely unkillable.
pallid coral
Incarn or starlord and fury or new moon
nimble island
and pvp talents
bitter harness
isnt solstice good with nightfae/boat?
nimble island
im trying new moon and it feels trash
tulip falcon
sad how not even weekly rbg groups want a feral
That was my strat when i had to pug last season
I signed up as boomkin then changed spec inside
then once I had some CR i just got invited regardless
livid wasp
oh you can change spec inside the bg too?
tulip falcon
ye you just cant change between healer and dps
livid wasp
cool
tulip falcon
getting into low groups regardless of exp as feral with no cr is like impossible
i'd link hero to 1.8 mmr cap groups then get declined
nimble island
@bitter harness im checking high rated druids and they all run solstice
tulip falcon
ye i managed to find 2 high-ish groups that actually let me play it eventually
the better teams are more willing to take weird specs than the low teams
everyone referring to me as a "boomie" despite never touching the spec that season was funny
nimble island
melee boomie
tardy hare
i just joined a couple friends
or well
couple of guys
and i just respecced to feral after getting bored of boomy
now i just feral all of em
tulip falcon
i came back to bfa for like the last 2 months of it and pugged to 2.3 as feral which was fun
tulip falcon
the cr grind atm is intense
tulip falcon
lmao yea
ive seen loads of teams at 2.6 mmr with 2k cr just because they won a few in a row
bold raft
for feral I guess I should say
primal bane
is there something wrong with this?
why am i waiting literal hours for singular matches
primal bane
id just start applying
but somehow boomkin is literally the only S tier class nobody wants to play with?
everybody wants ret, arms, ww, fmage, genuinely every good spec except boomie in their notes
@tulip falcon is 2s better?
tulip falcon
no clue I don't play either anymore because i cba pugging
primal bane
so how u pvp
tulip falcon
rbgs because i can play with people i know
loud badge
That’s $1 per unit of rating, am I right?
vital parcel
maru boomkin poggers
weak hinge
OMG
Is this the first Boomer?
vital parcel
was one yday
but with tank legendary lol
went bad
this guy is actually rocking timeworn
nimble island
what stats you aim for night fae, vers mast ?
vital parcel
if ur going for oneshots yeah prob
nimble island
what other build you have, starfall spam ?
nimble island
oh sry i meant for rbg mostly, i dont plan in doing arena with this dude
primal bane
are you supposed to just let your team 2v3?
like do you straigth up never leave bear form?
forest kite
Hello guys someone to help me to add, the pvp trinket on use to this macro
#showtooltip alignement céleste
/cast alignement céleste
/cast Berserker
vital parcel
what other build you have, starfall spam ?
i think haste vers is better if ur going timeworn imo
but boat is prob mast vers
vast vapor
rip maro
primal bane
why is mm pvp played with pet
candid dragon
Utility. Roar of sac/freedom/MS effect etc etc.
livid heart
And ur pet will actually do more damage overall than lone wolf in a pvp situation
vital parcel
Watching this tournament just makes me hate paladins even more
primal bane
i just lost a literal 3v2
boomkin came backafter 3 minutes
pressed convoke
we lost
idek what to think anymore
clear pulsar
And ur pet will actually do more damage overall than lone wolf in a pvp situatio...
Damage overall doesn't quite matter, if you're trying to play based off of setups and 100-0ing people in 4s in cross CC, lone wolf is 100% better damage.
MM isn't a spec that wins doing more overall damage
nimble island
@vital parcel ty
thorny venture
You have a pet for the utility
the snare, the mortal strike
all better than some damage
livid heart
U lone wolf until opener is over unless they cleave easy @clear pulsar
clear pulsar
??