pvp

[bitter harness]

im so fucking done

[vast vapor]

maybe as nelf

[clear pulsar]

Gotta get that big dam on elementals and pets brother

[bitter harness]

ive lost 129 rating since monday

maybe ill just quit

[clear pulsar]

That big dam that gets outhealed passively by shock barrier and atonement

[vast vapor]

I made oath after boat and resto feels awful :) good thing I didnt make dreambinder

[clear pulsar]

Bro ofc resto feels awful, you'rep laying fucking Oath

LOL

[vast vapor]

xd

[clear pulsar]

As resto you just need a dps (or two for 3s) that can create space and stay alive enough for you to get restealths

It's not a bad spec in 2s it just lacks healing outside of NS

But you can make up for that by being aggro af

[hardy cargo]

Resto in 2s is fun

[stone nest]

Na oath is ok in certain situations. Verdant is the standard but resto one shots are hilarious.

[hardy cargo]

I've only lost horribly once and that was to kyrian dh and sub rogue

That was a fun game

Not kyrian, nightfae*

[clear pulsar]

I think it's better to play a diff leggo and just take HOTW over Bash

[trail moth]

is there a addon i can use to better track my cooldowns?

its kinda hard looking at my action bar

to see the cooldown

[clear pulsar]

A lot of pveers use these sets of weakauras that look like spaceship UI

In the middle of their screen

I just drag the actionbars a bit further up

[stone nest]

Mass entangle is practically mandatory with all the wws

[clear pulsar]

With dominos

[hardy cargo]

Just spec to roots against ww before start

[clear pulsar]

Ironbark root

[stone nest]

It’s handy against wars as well

[clear pulsar]

The healing pvp talents all blow

[hardy cargo]

Seriously

[clear pulsar]

Fucking reactive resin lmao

[hardy cargo]

None of them except for like the wildgrowth one do actual healing??

[stone nest]

Honestly I’ve been kiting melee and making them look stupid with rips roots and cyclones.

[hardy cargo]

While paladins get like double your main heals healing power

[stone nest]

I want shapeshifter fixed so I feel like I’m getting something. It’s thorns lifeblood then everything else is meh

[clear pulsar]

The wild growth one is irrelevant in arena tho

I think master shapeshifter is ass even if it's fixed tbh

I mean it's literally a bleed buff only while you sit cat form

Like

[hardy cargo]

Ik, but I'm talking about how we have like one healing pvp talent compared to other classes having stupidly op ones

[clear pulsar]

If it snapshotted then it's good

Yeah true

[hardy cargo]

Like

[clear pulsar]

THe lifebloom one is ok but like

Super unimpactful

[hardy cargo]

The fucking efflo one

Efflos such a high mana spell and that one makes me kinda angry whenever I look at it

[stone nest]

Lifebloom helps with not ooming against purge comps

Flourish or bust in 2s

[clear pulsar]

It's 64 less mana on each Lifebloom cast bro

It's not helping you not oom lol

[stone nest]

For a 10 minute game it definitely will

Against a purge comp? 100% helps

[clear pulsar]

Also great fun this patch

You heal vs a double priest comp yet?

40 out of 90s without Rejuv

At least you don't oom

[stone nest]

No I died to mind games against a double priest comp

[clear pulsar]

CAP

[hardy cargo]

You gone against a double firemage comp?

Fun times

[stone nest]

Had a blood elf arcane torrent it off once

Was lit

Combust that is

[blissful belfry]

you know what i hate the most about purges? You cant fuckin swiftmend anymore till you get a hot on

[stone nest]

What I hate about purged is that lifebloom doesn’t heal for shit when purged

[clear pulsar]

There should be a pvp talent that makes rejuv unpurgeable

[stone nest]

Buff that plz blizzard

[blissful belfry]

oh yeah

[dire pulsar]

Dis arena tournament is shitfest lol ,only pala or shaman healer and bunch of warriors.

[stone nest]

There needs to be some sort of punishment for purging hots. There’s no reason not to do it.

[clear pulsar]

Nah there was jungle with disc earlier

[hardy cargo]

I despise the swiftmend leggo for that. Why do I still have to cast with a hot up??? I know it lengthens time of hots but it angers me

[clear pulsar]

And caster cleaves

Ele fire, ele aff, etc

[stone nest]

The healing on lifebloom purged is crap

[clear pulsar]

Watch they gonna bring out outlaw frost rmp

[blissful belfry]

i'd be using swiftmend sotf NS regrowth combo to do the same healing as a WoG

[stone nest]

And using way more mana lol

[blissful belfry]

WoG is 0 mana

so

yeah

xD

[stone nest]

That’s the point of my comment

[blissful belfry]

yeah

so reet

[stone nest]

They need to put a dr on wog heals

They won’t but it’s a thought

[clear pulsar]

Nah just nerf it flat out like

It's ridiculous

Nerf the talent that makes it 100% more if low hp

To like 50% more, and put a mana cost on it at least

[stone nest]

I’m fine with it healing a lot a time or two. Pallys are suppose to be the ultimate utility class but being able to top people off the entire game at no cost is a stupid design for a class.

[vast vapor]

yeah there needs to be something

or just make the other offheals cost no mana too :)

I'm so oom every game topping ppl with regrowth

then no mana for cc :)

[soft cliff]

yeah I think I might be done trying to pvp. this shit just isn't going to work for me. you all have fun.

[clear pulsar]

Defeatist attitude

Cheers bud

[soft cliff]

losing 15 skrimishes in a row isn't fun

why would I keep doing it

[blissful belfry]

skirmishes?

[soft cliff]

yes

[clear pulsar]

Idk why did you start doing it in the first place?

[soft cliff]

resto bg is fun

but you have to do arena to upgrade shit

[clear pulsar]

No?

RBG rating is giga inflated

[vast vapor]

I'm struggling to get 2,4k any bracket with gigageared balance, no friends, might have to try to grind rbg but it takes years

every 3s comp feels so not easy, have not played with fire mage yet tho

[clear pulsar]

Need to sit down with same people bro

Can't cycle thru people forever

[pallid coral]

mystic doing 500k healing in these games

vom

[clear pulsar]

Yeah wog is absurd

[weak hinge]

are we ever considering korayn? maybe balance pvp?

[clear pulsar]

I don't think it's worth rn

Over Niya

Idk maybe the 10% inc dam on one or two starsurges can be good stuff!? Doubt

Grove is so much dam

[edgy shale]

I think koryan could be the choice for feral in pvp once we get the +25% crit

but its kinda hrd to say since shit has changed since ppl were testing o beta etc

[clear pulsar]

I think Korayn could be good for boomie if you could get a stun on opener

But you need to Soulshape first, then the next blink becomes a stun

So it'll never happen

It'd be hilarious for mage hunter and boomie, tho I know hunters generally go kyrian for pvp

[edgy shale]

feral can prob force ppl to trinket the first rake w/ that much crit like goddam

[clear pulsar]

25%? I doubt

How does the timing work out to like

With Berserk up

Can you Rake Shred Shred Bite FF Bite?

I don't think there's enough time

[edgy shale]

well if rake crits that's 2, then zerk shred gives 3 and its like 100% chance to crit, so idk i can see it being possible

so u could prob just rake, shred, bite, ff, bite

[clear pulsar]

Zerk Shred gives 3 if it crits

Oh shit

You right

Doubled chance ye so like

[green ingot]

hey guys sorry for the FAQ but what is the best legendary for 2v2 for resto druid and in which slot is it best to craft it?

[edgy shale]

yeah

[clear pulsar]

If you have 25% base + 25 from Korayn

[edgy shale]

thats wat i was thinking

[clear pulsar]

Rake Shred Bite FF Bite

NICE BRO

[edgy shale]

lol ya

[clear pulsar]

I like it

[lime light]

stop

[clear pulsar]

Yeah it'll be so good bro

[supple haven]

Why are most of the top players running boat on feet rather than legs?

[clear pulsar]

If you pop TF with Symmetry after first Bite you literally go
Rake Shred Bite TF FF Bite Bite Bite too

[clear pulsar]

Prob cuz raid has 220/233 pants

And cuz it doesnt matter

Like

It's a minimal difference

[supple haven]

Guess that's tru

[clear pulsar]

So people just crafted what was bigger upgrade at the time

A lot of us did anyway

[vast vapor]

would u say 2,4k from rbg is easy atm compared to arena

and yeah boat boots thing is purely because of raid loot

[clear pulsar]

I think it's like raiding yeah!? It won't be easy if you don't have a team

But like in terms of personal accountability and skill

Much worse players are at 2.4 in rbgs than in 3s

Just like you won't join a competent early CE guild out the gates if you have never raided

[vast vapor]

yeah

[clear pulsar]

So Korayn stun doesn't share cd with the initial soulshape

But it's still the 2nd global out of stealth

It could be good

[stray sigil]

gotta be out of combat for it to stun

complete garbo

[stone nest]

How long is the stun? Is it longer than a rake? Also not generating a combo point ain’t great

[median kraken]

what are good 3s comps for boomie, ive not seem much outside of spriest/boom/resto sham or priest

[vital parcel]

Boom/ele/priest could be good too

[edgy shale]

pretty sure u could run hpal/resto/priest +boomy+ just about anything and it'll be a good comp

arms, ww, lock

spriest ele

[true pendant]

Firemage boomy rsham

For big dick crits

[edgy shale]

how could i forget about mage wow, ya def mage

[haughty compass]

Disc moonkin arms doesn’t feel super good, but I think we need to be more ontop of their teams

1850-1950 up and down

[edgy shale]

what comps are you struggling w/ specifically?

i think another healer would be better in that comp cuz that seems kinda rotty

and disc goes oom

[median kraken]

ye

plus all your damage is basically in combust window i guess that way

[clear pulsar]

I'm just talking about like boomie opener yeah!? Having a 5s stun on opener on top of the boomie shit could be nice

But it doesn't work well

Cuz it takes 2 globals

So people can put you in combat

[haughty compass]

Anyone give kitty cleave a shot recently?

[clear pulsar]

Before you can stun

[median kraken]

well hear me out

pala heal spriest boomie, pala hop the druid so he cant be kicked in convoke

its free real estate

[haughty compass]

We don’t struggle much, our priest just goes oom

Caster cleaves are trubs too

[edgy shale]

ya that's what I would expect since ur dps are kinda rotty and ur healer is opposite

[hardy cargo]

Quick dumb question since I only play 2s/rbgs as resto. For 3s would i run Dreamweaver or Niya? and any specific paths

[stone nest]

Yeah meta is shifting to caster cleaves it feels like. Dream double endurance and potency is nice

[modern flicker]

@haughty compass Same exact experience here, in same rating. It's hard to end games fast enough against a lot of comps... we have strong gos but if they trade enough CDs to live it we lack followup pressure before priest goes OOM

I'm also fae though, not kyrian, which is contributing

I think it would be poggers with pally or shammy instead tho

[dusty needle]

lets go straight into the dampening meta! the home of the boomy

the like crazy boomy one shot stuff is cool

but we need to return to our rot based damage profile

[crude minnow]

How well does spriest/boomy/x work for a caster cleave? I feel like our stuff doesn't line up that well but it could have been a communication thing

[maiden trout]

Man idk how id win without the bursty opener lol. Guess I’ll have to learn to play rot boomy?

[edgy shale]

i dont play boomkin, but im pretty sure u hvae good burst whe never u go into an eclipse w/ some astral power

like starsurges hit for 13k

[maiden trout]

Do our dots really do enough dmg for us to rot?

[edgy shale]

shoot 3

people di

e

boomkin puts out good pressure while being able to switch into bear w/ celestial guardian while focused, yeah

[forest kite]

well , i think if u're playing dampening game as boomy , you or/and your mate have some damage issue

or you don't setup thing properly

[vital parcel]

pog

theyre playing boomie now in awc

[edgy shale]

u dont have to damp as boomy u just can

makes sense w/ warrior

[forest kite]

" blackfire " , he is awful ? gods

[vital parcel]

yeah, maybe he hasnt played boomie for a while 😦

anyone know what ziqo meant by full moon procc?

[verbal berry]

convoke using full moon

[edgy shale]

what lol

[vital parcel]

Ah, so convoke can cast full moon? Didnt know that 😮

[verbal berry]

yeah low chance

[vital parcel]

pog

[edgy shale]

y'all are trolling

[verbal berry]

no

[fervent gull]

Any good guide of guardian?

For rbgs

[clear pulsar]

This is still much better than playing the feral comp tho

By a mile

Feral cant handle ret cleaves

[vital parcel]

y

[clear pulsar]

They played fmpal the game before

[kindred galleon]

Does treants work against monk cds?

[vital parcel]

they are trying to bait them to go boomie

[clear pulsar]

No, ww can redirect the clones anytime they want

[kindred galleon]

Big cat though?

[indigo forum]

What comp would be easiest to push for glad for a boomy?

[clear pulsar]

They almost 2-0d method

@vestal citrus

Merce mystic ret arms

[lime light]

someone link

[clear pulsar]

Err almost 3-0d

youtube.com/worldofwarcraft

Kid

[lime light]

why its so late

[indigo forum]

Im at 2.1 but seem stuck atm

[edgy shale]

wait, am i stupid? why can't i find it on twitch

[vital parcel]

its the last game @lime light

its on utube

[lime light]

guardian druid nice

[edgy shale]

yea i see it on utube but usually its on both

[vital parcel]

[edgy shale]

oh wow

[lime light]

yes

venthyr is better

also

it can be reflected

by lock

[clear pulsar]

Yeah merce playing venthyr with execute leggo all games

Except the melee ones

Like vs feral he was kyrian

[indigo forum]

Didnt know that condem was like a spell

[lime light]

so the boomkin is doing a guaardian druid cosplay

or whats up

[edgy shale]

thats boomkin like half the time

celestial guardian fair

[lime light]

ret is best melee

in the game

by far

[vital parcel]

feelsbadman

[lime light]

arms and ww 2nd spot

lmao

[vital parcel]

rofl

[novel sky]

rip

[edgy shale]

LOL WHAT IS HAPPENING

[vital parcel]

this game is interesting

[novel sky]

lmao

[edgy shale]

bro this game...

nerf healing please

[vital parcel]

ret healing lmao

[novel sky]

1.2m from the ret pal lol

[vital parcel]

thats not fair 😦

[lime light]

how ppl are supprised

[novel sky]

not surprised its just still funny

[edgy shale]

this is what happens when people overreact to rogues 1 shotting on day 1

[clear pulsar]

No stop

No one overreacted to rogues bro

Pls stop that nonsense

Sub nerfs were good, warranted, and reasonable

[edgy shale]

yeah the sub nerfs were fine, what isn't fine is the dampening nerf that went with it

[clear pulsar]

I swear if I see another fucking rogue try to argue that sub was overnerfed

Or that sub wasn't that bad

[edgy shale]

i wanted rogue nerfed too, but they overdid it w/ the overall changes

[clear pulsar]

No they didn't

Dampening change did nothing to 3s what does that have to do with this game?

[lime light]

its not 2s, nothing here

about damp

lmao

[edgy shale]

i thought they also changed damp % in 3s

made it start lwoer

[clear pulsar]

No that was a 2s change

[edgy shale]

on that patch

[lime light]

@vestal citrus stop

[edgy shale]

ye i know in 2s they made it 0% damp at first

[lime light]

before u make me angry

[edgy shale]

guess im misrremembering, but still healing is too crazy

[lime light]

2s is fine if they bring 20% damp

otherwise healers are so fucking broken

or hybrids

like prot ret

i mean

wtf

every pal spec

is broken

even hpal

[edgy shale]

hpal is the #1 healer, no?

[crude minnow]

Rogues were top tier in a lot of metas where they don't even do top damage. If they are doing top burst damage along with their control it is a problem

[lime light]

ofc it is

i dont see a problem with sub, super good spec still

there is a problem with fire mage

[edgy shale]

yes rogues were unreasonable, i wasn't trying to say rogues shouldn't be nerfed, i was saying the rogue nerf + the damp change was an overreaction, but whatever

[crude minnow]

Sometimes I start killing a fire mage and realize they are still 100% hp. Like wtf

[novel sky]

triune stronk

[edgy shale]

dont they have that reverse time move

prob that

[crude minnow]

Anytime a mage is tanky is a problem

[stray sigil]

hey dont touch 2s

i have fun playing feral sp

[vital parcel]

I feel like mage is easy as druid

[crude minnow]

I really like 2s diversity at the shitty ratings I've played at

Feels like 3s has meta comps starting at 1500

[clear pulsar]

Nah

[edgy shale]

im surprised there wasn't more ww today

[compact acorn]

Anyone else struggling in arena as rdruid right now?

[forest kite]

he should've Q as mage xD

it is

but , blackfire was ... a bit disgusting this game

xD

i can understand ret going for Tank legendary ( was a good move ) , even war for a supportive legendary because they are against spell cleave

but that tank legendary on blackfire ? was so crap

[edgy shale]

so the tournament realm lets u instaswitch cov, right?

[forest kite]

i don't know , i feel like the burst from moonkin without right legendary is crap

[clear pulsar]

No

You have to create multiple characters

[edgy shale]

oh true

[forest kite]

he did 0 burst damage , 0 pressure for the whole game , better to instakill someone with an lasso xD

[clear pulsar]

What? Did you watch the same game I did?

[edgy shale]

but they just max level and max gear

automatic

[forest kite]

also they were so dumb to don't train the ele the whole game

[clear pulsar]

He would have gotten ran over in 3 mins without the barkskin legendary

[forest kite]

yeah because he was playing so badly , and didn't apply any pressure

[clear pulsar]

Lontar didn't have to use any cds to do anything for like 10 mins straight

[forest kite]

they just could train the whoel game

without no pressure , it's not hard :>

[clear pulsar]

Yeah the ret doing 1.2M healing would have changed if the boomie had dreambinder

Ok bro

[forest kite]

i don't even know why they didn't tunnel the ele , once they figured out blackfire was playing with a tank legendary

[edgy shale]

when is that? 90% damp? lol

[forest kite]

yeah but why they just didn't focus the ele ? for sake xD

it's not like you can do anything as boomy with that crap leg

weird game

hope this first round will be enought to nerf Wog wednesday . 😄

[clear pulsar]

Yeah ofc

You can't spam cyclone and cycle thru Eclipses every 15s without Dreambinder

[forest kite]

you can't kill yeah .

[edgy shale]

i have a feeling Wog nerf gonna come w/ convoke nerf, and i need convoke for pve

[kindred galleon]

Convoke nerf? Lol

[edgy shale]

its not about it being broken, people just dont like getting 1 shot thru 1 cd

[clear pulsar]

Bro are you daft? They sit boomie cuz ele can't peel

[kindred galleon]

Combustion

[forest kite]

it's also too strong in pve

[clear pulsar]

If they sit ele the boomie can spam cyclone on DR

[vast vapor]

anytime I watch magestreams the only thing they think is broken in the game is convoke

[forest kite]

or other covenant are too bad

for boomy at least

[edgy shale]

i mean fire mage could use a nerf as well lol

[vast vapor]

how can they be so much in denial

[edgy shale]

im not out here defending combust

[forest kite]

combust right now is way more broken than convoke

[vast vapor]

its fucking instant reliable dmg compared to rng cast which might do nothing

[forest kite]

removing the 150% crit modifier from pvp , and don't touch to combu is a dick move anyway

[edgy shale]

it absolutely is, all instacast vs. 4 second of channel hmmmm. but I've still seen a ton of poeple bitch about convoke, they do nerfs off community perception plenty of the time

[forest kite]

but the biggest problem right now is how combu is powerful + how mage is tanky asfuck

[vast vapor]

yeah thats why streamers try to manipulate the perception

yeah

[edgy shale]

oh that's the fireball thing right

ya thats so dumb

[forest kite]

if we could reduce convoke to 1 min

[edgy shale]

5 seconds is such a large #

[forest kite]

we would all run convoke even at high rating for sure xD

[vast vapor]

and its still more healable and less reliable

only exception is full moon proc with gigagear but it happens pretty rarely

[forest kite]

• you have to play with an Hpal

[vast vapor]

lately theres been so much shamans against me that I'm rly doubting staying nf

[forest kite]

NF still strong if u play dreambinder+FOE against anycomp , even if Convoke is instakick

[edgy shale]

kyrian does seem better in pvp for feral just cuz u pretty much always hvae it up for ur FF goes, but Nf necessary for pve so whatever

[forest kite]

you just have a burst every 2 min instead 1 .

[vast vapor]

wish I had dreambinder

[vital parcel]

Convoke also makes the enemy team really paranoid which is nice

[edgy shale]

ya ppl fear druids no matter waht cov lol

[fervent gull]

whats the lego for guardian in rbgs?

[surreal heron]

legacy

[fervent gull]

tyvm

the stats would be the same as in the guardian guides from #guardian?

[surreal heron]

very likely

[fervent gull]

again, ty

[oak canyon]

is fury iight at pvp now after buffs or only pve

[clear pulsar]

This is a druid channel ye!?

I don't think there's any reasonable buff that could make Fury better than Arms in pvp rn

With the bloated toolkit Arms has

[edgy shale]

look out for fury in 9.3

[haughty compass]

No d stance lul

[clear pulsar]

I did see a friend lose to fury warrior running Death Wish and the Bladestorm MS legendary

It was hilarious

It was arms hpal vs fury hpal too

[forest kite]

Hey! I just want to be sure before proceeding with gearing a spec. Does balance druid have a good spot in 2v2/3v3, or would it be better to go for feral?

[rigid linden]

same representation

more boomies at lower end tho

[clear pulsar]

If you're just gearing thru pvp you buy much of the same items anyway

Except weapon and maybe like 2 or 3 slots that you could pick between haste vers or mast vers

[forest kite]

Ah, ok. I'm mainly considering playing boomkin in pve, but I also want to get to 1.8k as dudu (my main is already 1.8k, so free gear, if it goes well), so I wanted to be sure before learning how to play one of the specs 🙂

[clear pulsar]

Boomie will generally find more diversity in comps in 3s, feral's probably less frustrating in 2s but overall there really isn't any difference in how high you can go as either spec

[forest kite]

Is there any specific comps that's good with feral/boom in 2v2/3v3? My friends are mainly playing hunter/fire mage and disc priest.

[clear pulsar]

There's just a decent difference in playing a melee or a caster ye!?

So play the one you like better or feel better playing

[forest kite]

Feral + hunter / heal

Feral + priest in 2s

Oh, I know. I've never tried ranged in pvp, so that's why I wanted to ask, as I'd likely have more luck as melee in pvp due to my past knowledge, but it'd be a bit "annoying" to learn to play ranged efficiently in pvp if I end up going feral anyway

@forest kite Ooh. They'll like that for sure

[clear pulsar]

Yeah for 2s if your healer is a disc go feral

[forest kite]

Feral hunter priest , Feral mage priest are two very good comp

[clear pulsar]

For 3s, boomie fire feels hard to beat as feral so I lean towards saying it's the best option you have

But all of those combinations can get you way above 1.8k

[edgy shale]

i dont think its the end of the world if u replace priest w/ hpal either

[forest kite]

nah boomy/fire is a trap it's pretty average , much better with ele or spriest , i would prefer play feral with mage than boomy with mage

[edgy shale]

feral mage good

[clear pulsar]

Like

It's whatever

[forest kite]

btw i don't like Boomy/fire mage because you definitely lack of stun , so you have to run bash , and they can play around

[clear pulsar]

I'd boomie fire > feral fire > feral hunter, but if you're stuck with a disc priest then yeah not so good for boomie fire.

Right yeah, you need either an aggressive hpal for stuns

Or to run bash

[forest kite]

I mean, my priest friend "mains" prot paladin, so I could try and poke him into holy paladin for pvp

He just enjoys disc priest a lot

Feral hunter > feral fire > boomie fire

[clear pulsar]

Yeah that would be good if you would play boomie in pve and want to just buy a 226 int weapon straight away

[forest kite]

So you say boomie/fire/holy if possible?

[clear pulsar]

As you can tell, kawkaw is a boomie main and I'm a feral main

[forest kite]

Lol

[clear pulsar]

Thus I think boomie is stronger and he thinks feral is stronger

[forest kite]

I noticed ^^

[clear pulsar]

As is natural

[forest kite]

A perfect "balance"

not really

[clear pulsar]

Honestly bro just play the spec you like better, the most important part is playing with consistent partners and working thru stuff

[forest kite]

they like different comp

Firemage is strong with any form of stun , feral is better for that than boomy

[clear pulsar]

Like you can make a subpar comp work much better with consistency than you would cycling thru LFG people playing better comps

[forest kite]

and boomy like also any form of stun to play mostly with root/beam

so an Ele is way better than a firemage for boomy

[clear pulsar]

WW boomie nasty

[forest kite]

it's just too challenging to kill anything as firemage/boomy agaisnt ppl playing around pillar

[clear pulsar]

Kawhi prob gonna slay tomorrow playing that

[forest kite]

yeah WW / boomy is insane , huge damage , stun , ability to lock down ppl 😄

Fire mage / boomy are +/- doing the same

so both together just don't work

[clear pulsar]

Idk what you think 'don't work' means

When prev and corki both play it occasionally and teams won series as boomie fire hpal in tournament this week too

But if you're saying it don't work then it don't work

[haughty compass]

Super interested to see what NA runs, so I can prepare myself for every dummy in the world to run the same comps

[forest kite]

Anyways, I'm sorry for starting a minor discussion here, but I'm also really grateful for the assistance 🙂 And with how warrior (my main) is looking atm, I might even start maining druid, as I really enjoy the class in general, so that means even more PvP

[clear pulsar]

Arms is insane hello?

[edgy shale]

arms sits in defensive stance and pumps more damage than most classes

[vast vapor]

are rbg power up spawns fixed timer?

[candid moth]

Starting a discussion isn't a bad thing in a class discord, its leads to information exchange and people can show their PoV on topics. Since we are all civilised gentleman here, unlike the scum which is any class besides druid, we can actually agree and disagree on each other

[forest kite]

you are talking about pro player , they can make everything work xD and don't play the same way we play when they are in tourney , two different world . i'm playing mostly between 2.4 and 2.6 , and as boomy ( or as firemage ) play with an class able to stun is just way better . But with an insane teamplay , ofc Boomy/firemage can work , with an Hpal then 😄

[remote helm]

so blizz said they made it so covoke would hit target affected by mass root but that is still not the case.

[vast vapor]

reverted it yes

[forest kite]

reverted instantly

[vast vapor]

altough it feels like it ignores something else now like stuns

been having so unlucky ones

[clear pulsar]

If pro player can play boomie fire hpal vs other pro players, why do you say it doesn't work for 2.4k?

That's silly like

It's not an actual argument

"Oh yeah they're pros" they're also playing vs pros

At their level

[stray sigil]

why would fire boomy be bad if not a pro

combust / incarn

i saw him talk about pillaring

[clear pulsar]

[stray sigil]

lamo

combust every lime 1-1min30

kyrian on 1 min cd on boomy

like lol

so much robbery possibility

[chrome panther]

boom/fire/hpal is literal free cr

better than ele/boom

[vast vapor]

yep anything fire is free

[chrome panther]

you have a go every minute and a GIGA go every 3 mins

mage is a god, your a god, hpal is a god

[stray sigil]

mage unkillable

boomy unkillable

hpal makes everything unkillable

[clear pulsar]

No but listen, it only works if you're pro ok?

[stray sigil]

bad comp

[chrome panther]

1800 viable i guess 🤷

[clear pulsar]

Can't wait to queue more than 90 games in the season

This mf keeps bringing up his cr

Like it validates his nonpoints

[stray sigil]

who

isnt that guy some boomy rbg player lol

[clear pulsar]

The one who said boomie fire is bad

[stray sigil]

XDXDXD

no flame ofc rbg big skill

[clear pulsar]

Fuji we were talking about Korayn earlier

And it's actually insane for feral opener

[stray sigil]

not right now

[clear pulsar]

You go Rake Shred Bite FF Bite Bite Bite

[stray sigil]

later yes

[clear pulsar]

Yeha later

[stray sigil]

once 25% crit comes out

its prob bis

but rn its garbo

[clear pulsar]

Yeah you always get 5 cp in Rake + Shred

[chrome panther]

idk its fun

[clear pulsar]

If you have like 20% crit from gear

[stray sigil]

ya will make ur sym zerk go

[chrome panther]

i've crit 20k surges on people with kor

[stray sigil]

much more consistent

ig if u open in zerk

[clear pulsar]

No no

Zerk after first Bite

Probably TF after first Bite too

Well not Zerk after first Bite no I'm stupid

Yeah you open in zerk

Rake Shred Bite FF TF Bite Bite Bite

[stray sigil]

ya u just dont have to open with ff right away

[clear pulsar]

Honestly just save FF

[stray sigil]

if ur lucky with crits

[clear pulsar]

You dont have to be lucky with crits

If you have 20% base + 5% from lotp, the opener Shreds always crit

[stray sigil]

i mean ull have around 50% crit

[clear pulsar]

Cuz 25% from Korayn and doubled in Berserk

[stray sigil]

uh

crit is doubled in zerk ?

[clear pulsar]

So you Rake Shred Bite Shred Bite everytime

Shred crit

Is doubled in stealth

Berserk makes it act like stealth

[chrome panther]

:bigbrain:

[stray sigil]

but ud still have to crit on rake no

so theres still rng

to it

[clear pulsar]

Just play Fresh wound

[stray sigil]

here u go

[clear pulsar]

[stray sigil]

going full autsm again

get fkd warden

idiot

[clear pulsar]

I didnt send the msg

I knew it was gonna get wardened

[stray sigil]

r8kt

[clear pulsar]

But still tho

Rake's a 50% crit

And just bite at 4 whatever

[edgy shale]

yeah its the shred thats guaranteed, rake just likely

[stray sigil]

just weave in a brs or like a thrash

for more bite dmg with tfb

[clear pulsar]

Yeah the issue is energy tho

[stray sigil]

u will have to pool ya

[clear pulsar]

Maybe cat eye??????

[stray sigil]

im aking cat eye this week prob

[edgy shale]

cat eye is cringe, wouldn't ur rather just hold TF

[clear pulsar]

Bro you're so fucking lucky you know?

[edgy shale]

as in like rake, zerk + shred, then TF+bite

[clear pulsar]

I was looking at your gear last night

[stray sigil]

i think cat eyes pretty good

[clear pulsar]

You got wep from cache

And probably chest too

[stray sigil]

i did get wep this week

[clear pulsar]

And then bought all the cheap items

[stray sigil]

tru tru

[clear pulsar]

From vendor

[stray sigil]

i buy chest this week if i dont get

from vault

[edgy shale]

yeah idk maybe cateye can be good in pvp cuz u can save so much energy for ur goes, but isnt sym just too good

[clear pulsar]

You're probably the highest ilvl player without any pve item

[edgy shale]

what ilvl?

[stray sigil]

eh im not that hjigh ilvl

[clear pulsar]

I mean you have 2 raid heroic items but you'd be 220 with honor items on those slots

He's 221

It's not that high but everyone that's higher has pve gear @stray sigil

[stray sigil]

ya i ahve 2 boes

never save for wep

more gear

100p

200 iq

[clear pulsar]

I'm only 212

Saving for wep now

[stray sigil]

fuck that noise

u dont save

u get it eventually

[clear pulsar]

We'll see

I can't buy anything but trinket/ring rn

[edgy shale]

221 is pretty high for having done no pve

i think the best geared pve feral is like 225 right now

[stray sigil]

think i bought something every week

cant remember

[clear pulsar]

So either wait next week to buy an armor piece I'm missing or wait 2 weeks to buy weapon

[stray sigil]

ur nto elite yet are u

[clear pulsar]

No only 2.1

Soon tho

[stray sigil]

u can just upgrade pvp wep to like 200 ?

[clear pulsar]

We farmed this week

I have an m+ weapon

[stray sigil]

why do u want wep so bad then

[clear pulsar]

Cuz it's the biggest upgrade!?

[stray sigil]

wep only super nice if ur 24

[clear pulsar]

My wep isn't 226 bro

I'm not doing big m+

I havent done a key in like a full month realy

[stray sigil]

what ilvl is ur wep

[clear pulsar]

It's 216 with crit haste

[stray sigil]

whats ur name again

[clear pulsar]

226 weapon with vers is easily like

[stray sigil]

u chanfed from facemon

or some shit

[clear pulsar]

5% dam

Over mine

If not more

I logged off in pve was doing torghast

[stray sigil]

u have the worse fucking names bro

i swear

[clear pulsar]

Momjokes is a jab at someone who hates me

I can tell you the story but it's silly af

But yeah bro we fucken farmed as fps this week

Only lost multiple times to boomie fire hpal

And owlplay

[stray sigil]

what big piece u need to buy still. ?

i assume u have sym on helm

so not helm

is it gloves or belt ?

[clear pulsar]

My sym is 190 on helm I wanna make it on gloves instead since my NOW is 225 on gloves

So I don't have to buy both slots

So it's helm bracer belt rings

[stray sigil]

rings dont matter much

[clear pulsar]

I'm 210 with symm

[stray sigil]

dont u get more agi from buying bracers over wep

[clear pulsar]

It's smol, need bigger for glad

No way

[edgy shale]

bracers give dick

[clear pulsar]

Weapon dps is insane stat

[edgy shale]

weapon dps is all

[clear pulsar]

It's worth 6 times agi

[edgy shale]

yea this man is right

[clear pulsar]

For damage

[stray sigil]

is feral even affected by wep dmg

i thought no

[edgy shale]

yes lol

this isn't BC

[clear pulsar]

Well the way damage is calculated is 6 parts weapon dps, 1 part agi

[edgy shale]

stop trolling

yell at ur friend please

[clear pulsar]

Yeah feral is

100%

I cant recall it not being affected by weapon dps since I started playing

[stray sigil]

bro u think i look at logs or stat weights

mfao

i just q up

im not a fucking nerd

nerds

[edgy shale]

lol im messing around with u, but ya u should prob know that

[clear pulsar]

184 to 216 weapon is 8% damage gain for me

[stray sigil]

216 to 226 is what

[clear pulsar]

Idk I dont have a 226 wep

[stray sigil]

cant u sim it anywys

u nerd

[clear pulsar]

Oh I'm just looking at bite tooltip bro

Hello?

All that matters

[stray sigil]

hmm maybv

do u know what gear cass was rocking

was it hast vers or crit vers

[edgy shale]

i have a 220 weapon ill see wat the increase is to 226

[stray sigil]

on non mas vers pieces

[clear pulsar]

I didn't look at stats really

[edgy shale]

crit should be better than haste

[stray sigil]

fuck man ur good for nothing to me

ur my nujmbers guy

[clear pulsar]

Just saw he was symmetry all games

[stray sigil]

get me numbers

[clear pulsar]

[stray sigil]

use ur head

what about lucy

[clear pulsar]

Lucy was barkskin leggo and def had haste pieces

I remember

Vers haste ring

Along with vers mastery ring

[rigid linden]

Oof

I feel like crit so much more worth on live

[edgy shale]

oh r u talking about boomkins

[clear pulsar]

No feral

[stray sigil]

i cant remember who said that but like

[clear pulsar]

GET WARDENED

[edgy shale]

lol u got automodded

[stray sigil]

was saying haste was better cuz

[clear pulsar]

[surreal heron]

[stray sigil]

clone timing

or some shit

[rigid linden]

You can bite someone's head off

[stray sigil]

cant remember who tha twas

[rigid linden]

For like 16k

[stray sigil]

16k lol

thats some weak shit

[edgy shale]

thats weird people would value haste > crit but yea idk trust them i guess

[stray sigil]

i seen bean do some 23k

ur weak formy

[clear pulsar]

Bean > formy???

[stray sigil]

yup

formy some random oce player

fuck him

[rigid linden]

I seen bean on the floor under my body after I convoked.

Xoxo

[edgy shale]

oh, yea haste for casting makes sense, duh why did i forget. haste is just the worst for cat dps

[clear pulsar]

[stray sigil]

dam u gonna do bean like that

hes always gigglin it up

[rigid linden]

The wild hunt

Did it

Not me

[stray sigil]

def smokin some fat joints

bitin ppls head off

[rigid linden]

Lmfao I love beab

He's always cooked

But his prot pally shit gotta stop

[stray sigil]

i always watch the 2v2 with fuz

shit is prime

coms are like

so fucking weird

ud think ur watching dilly

[forest kite]

@stray sigil what's your rank?

Mine is 940

[edgy shale]

220 to 226 was +~100 dps so like 2% increase

not ridiculous, but definitely more than any other 6 ilvl upgrade

[stone nest]

Guys they fixed it...

The wait is over

Master shapeshifter is fixed

[vast vapor]

:o

how

[stone nest]

No idea. It wasn’t in the notes but it doesn’t seem to fall off anymore

[stray sigil]

@forest kite wdym rank

[forest kite]

@stray sigil like your rank I'm 940

[stray sigil]

u mean on ladder?

[forest kite]

Yes

[rich orchid]

alright guys, been on the server a second, could use a helping bit of advice. How important is Vers in PVP? Like I'm at 20% as boom, should i just go for it above all, above INT, etc?

[stray sigil]

idk we been playing with alts and shit so i dropped like 200cr

[forest kite]

But what is your total cr ?

[rich orchid]

i'm at around 1700 in RBG

[stray sigil]

uh 2521 now

[forest kite]

@stray sigil your night fea?

[stray sigil]

ya

[forest kite]

I'm kryina

Also I'm 910 v.v

I feel useless

[stray sigil]

well jungle feels like shit rn

[vast vapor]

y hunters suck

[stray sigil]

and i play with surv

[forest kite]

@vast vapor whats your ladder ?

Cr*

[vast vapor]

2-2.3

[forest kite]

Ok

Ugh I suck x.x

[molten lynx]

Can hpal make moonkins uninterruptible somehow

[vast vapor]

yes with aura mastery

[edgy shale]

bop makes immune to physical interrupts too i think

[vast vapor]

yes

[forest kite]

@vast vapor can you teach me how to be better at pvp ?

[vast vapor]

no I need help myself

[forest kite]

Why your op

[coral sandal]

do you guys think rdruid with warrior/spriest is any good?

[tiny oar]

O shit for real? thank fuk

[clear pulsar]

Yeah now go catweave against ret and ww @tiny oar

[tiny oar]

I'll do it buddy

[clear pulsar]

Hm yes die with dignity

[tiny oar]

DONT DOUBT ME

[stone nest]

I actually do do that lol

[tiny oar]

Dumb wws wanna hit me all game that's cool I'll fucking kill em

[soft cliff]

how?

[stone nest]

Rets slow af

[soft cliff]

ww kills me in about .2 seconds

[edgy shale]

it would be cool if FoF didn't parry incap roar

[stone nest]

Mass entangle soul shape dash roar. So many movement options

I only go guardian if it’s 2 pressure classes like ww dh or arms

But I don’t do much 3s so I don’t know if my advice is applicable

[clear pulsar]

Dh pressure

[tiny oar]

Press the hunt hahaha

[stone nest]

Dhs are harder to kite than wws lol just cause they don’t do the same burst damage doesn’t mean they can’t bug the shit out if you.

[edgy shale]

yeah idk if i've felt particularly pressured by DH since gushing wound

[clear pulsar]

Bro

No way

Ironbark root, mass entangle, vortex, warstomp or rake stun or incap roar into cyclone into restealth

[stone nest]

Did you not understand that’s if there’s 2 hard to kite dps?

[clear pulsar]

DH can't parry stun or incap, no slow that you'd need to shift either

[stone nest]

If it’s just a dh I kill him

No problem

[devout frost]

@clear pulsar dh pressure just use typhoon :o)

[clear pulsar]

I go balance aff with barkskin leggo idgaf

[forest kite]

you know , on the papper X+X+X can work , it's not because it work , it's better than something else . Boomy/fire mage don't work together like Boomy/ele or sp or monk work together it's what i said , where did i say you couldn't push 2.4 ? or even 3K ? 😄

it's just too good as fire mage/boomy to have an partner able to stun on demand when the healer cross CC at same time ( love lasso btw )

and it's way harder to setup kill without that , make life harder 😦

[clear pulsar]

I did ask you what you think 'dont work' means

You directly said 'both together just don't owrk

That's a direct quote brother

[forest kite]

it's my opinion , both together are bad , but fire mage on his own is broken

and boomy strong

[clear pulsar]

It's whatever I really don't want to discuss this anymore

[forest kite]

so yeah , two very good player together playing that comp , and fixing a bit the problem with an hpal

[clear pulsar]

You keep shifting your wording to make it sound like you didn't say shit you said

So it's whatever

Have a good night brother

[forest kite]

dude

go away 😉

[stray sigil]

dude

[forest kite]

in this meta you need an stun , it's simple

[stray sigil]

boomy fire hpal

[clear pulsar]

You're the one that tagged me 2 hours later

[stray sigil]

has a stun on demand

for every go

im confused

???

[forest kite]

nah , your healer have a stun

[clear pulsar]

YOU just tagged me 2 hours after the conversation ended

[forest kite]

it's not the same

[stray sigil]

????????????????????????????

ITS 3V3

NOT 2V3

??

LAMO

[forest kite]

your pal shouldn't push an HOJ on your target at this moment

[stray sigil]

u def played mld last sesaon

[clear pulsar]

But he's elite RBGer ok? It only works if you're pro player

[stray sigil]

u sound like

u played a afk 40 yards away healer

[forest kite]

i'm 2.6 in 3s , just saying , if your pal have to setup kill with hoj , it's already weird xD

dude , just look at the meta / tournament , every single comp are running at least two hard stun , you don't have it , ppl are just running around an fucking pillar till 70% dampening

[clear pulsar]

People played fire boomie hpal on tourney

Top 8 teams

Yes

[forest kite]

but yeah you know , fuck off i'm done of this discord , full random at 1.5 complaining about convoke and saying bull shit

[clear pulsar]

I am looking at tournament

[forest kite]

yeah look better then

cya

[tiny oar]

Damn I went 2 shower what'd I miss lol

[rigid linden]

[clear pulsar]

My guy's been saying good bye but now he's preparing a whole paragraph

[forest kite]

braindead with 3 IQ , can't think by himself , OH I SAW THAT ON A STREAM IS STRONG , kek go out of your 1.6 & push glad as boomy / fire mage , then we will talk xD

[stray sigil]

why are u bragging about 2.6 anyways

2.6 is piss now

[chrome panther]

boomie runs mighty bash

[tiny oar]

I fucking love reading paragraphs

[chrome panther]

theres ur 2 hard stuns

KAWKAW

[stray sigil]

ur also saying healer

shouldnt participate

in cc

or something

u know what

i agree u should leave the server

better for my mental

[rigid linden]

[clear pulsar]

Bro Kawkaw is this guy that literally picked the one rating filter that showed feral with better representation than boomie, like very specific rating cutoff that showed 11 ferals 5 boomies, cuz there were like 7 boomies just barely under it

[chrome panther]

[clear pulsar]

He's constantly doing this shit

Acting like a 10yo

Literally 50 rating higher or lower or any other rating cutoff and the filter shows both specs very evenly represented

And he was trying to make a point that feral is free rating compared to boomie

[edgy shale]

[rigid linden]

there it is

the catfight

of the day

[clear pulsar]

It's not a real cat fight bro

[tiny oar]

[clear pulsar]

These people can't even stand by their points

[haughty compass]

Feral has what? 2 comps?

3?

[clear pulsar]

Like bro if you're gonna start arguing with me

Don't pull that fucking shit 'ok i'm leaving'

[edgy shale]

wait there's people who say feral is free rating compard to boomy

[clear pulsar]

Yeah he was telling someone to reroll from boomie to feral

Cuz FMP is free rating

It was a bit ridiculous

Like we all do that right? 'Oh my spec isn't so good guys this other spec is better'

But then he acts like he didn't say the things he said

[rigid linden]

i miss him

reading his comments adds drama

[clear pulsar]

He's still here

[rigid linden]

yay

[clear pulsar]

Lurking for sure

[rigid linden]

grabs popcorn

[clear pulsar]

He'll come around

[small storm]

it’s gonna b ok

[clear pulsar]

And tell me boomie fire hpal is bad and he knows better cuz he's glad and I'm duelist

[stray sigil]

ya hes still here

[small storm]

oh wow what an idiot

[stray sigil]

hpal shouldnt go for hoj

[tiny oar]

Ya dude too risky

What if u stub ur toe

Then ur in middle of map with broken foot

[clear pulsar]

Pls only talk if you're high rated (1.5K+)

[tiny oar]

[stray sigil]

dont speak to me if u watch awc

[tiny oar]

Fuk my wog abuser bro I cant do it going back rdru @clear pulsar

[stray sigil]

r u 3k yet on hpaql

[tiny oar]

No

[forest kite]

Sorry for the very, very late reply regarding regarding me maybe going away from my main (arms) to druid. I didn't mean arms is bad in PvP. Not at all. Hell, I pump so hard, and I absolutely love it. I meant in PvE like m+ and raiding, where we don't exactly shine very much, and hell I can't even get into a 12+ as pug with 216 ilvl. 😦 But yeah, just wanted to clear that up.

[edgy shale]

pve as feral or boomy?

[forest kite]

If you want real numbers, boomkin is the go-to atm.

but feral is pretty good too, don't get me wrong. Boomkin just pumps really hard right now.

[clear pulsar]

Yeah generally perception is way too drastic

Like

If your spec isn't in hte meta you get no invites

For m+

Even if it's totally fine

[forest kite]

Yep. At least I can feel like a god in PvP, which is why I love my druid for M+/raiding.

and soon for pvp as well ^^

[edgy shale]

if u wanna reroll for the easiest m+ invites just play hunter/mage and ye boomy is broken in m+ but feral is competitive with them ST

[clear pulsar]

So if you want to gear up for boomie and not have to buy an agi weapon, boomie mage is very good

If you want to give feral a try cuz you're main melee anyway, both feral mage and feral hunter are very good

[thorny venture]

woo, people mad there's no pvp changes and are assuming there's no more pvp tuning so long as AWC is going on

[clear pulsar]

WHat comp is actually better in anyone's opinion doesn't matter a whole lot, all of those comps are played by people in 2.7k+ rating as well as tournament level

So it's not like you'd be trying to make some scuffed mix work, which you could too

Like I said before, playing a subpar comp with consistent partners that you can work with is way better than cycling thru meta comps in LFG

[forest kite]

Of course. I can assume most comp works to a degree up to 1.8k. I mainly asked so I didn't end up with something like sin rogue, fury warrior or got forbid arcane mage. But if both specs work well, then it may be up to what I generally like the most

But once again, thank you very much for the help. It's rare to find so many helpful people around nowadays, so I really appreciate it 🙂

[grand mesa]

Hit 1800 in 2s. Been lurking reading y’all discuss things for a decent bit now. Thanks all for the tips of tricks over the last week or two 👍

[vast vapor]

I wonder if dreamweaver is just the way to go for balance arena just because of the slow conduit

niya mastery pumps but does it even matter that much

[vast vapor]

does korayn mount speed work in rbg

[deep nacelle]

For rbgs, what spec is best for FCing, and is druid still one of the best

[vast vapor]

had a druid fc today and rogue just killed it in one stun :)

[deep nacelle]

Feral?

[vast vapor]

guardian

[deep nacelle]

Tanks take more damage, I think feral would actually be better than guardian but I’m not sure

[clear pulsar]

Balance would certainly be better than feral as fc

[vast vapor]

this 50yd range with oath as balance is pretty nice monka

makes bash ranged ability too

I wish dipi streamed his games, currently against cdew's team on ladder

[coral sandal]

hey, me and two friends are playing jungle(as survival) and it feels like games vs ret/warr or most pally teams are insanely hard to win. obviously we're not good but does anyone have general jungle strats? we try to rotate intim/bash > trap on healer, but it just feels like we just end up being out pressured or every go is hard stopped

[stray sigil]

gotta cover warrior on ur gos

and stun ret on ur gos prob double stun even

its pretty hopeless though

[edgy shale]

ret warrior is nightmare fuel

[glad knot]

whats the go to conduit for feral pvp

[coral sandal]

yeah :/ it just feels like if they have higher than 5 iq we just insta lose

[stray sigil]

legit have to perfect cross or ur screwed every go

[small storm]

amazing

[stray sigil]

maybe u can try to run at healer

with like traps on ret snd roots/mcs on warrior

might be better

[clear pulsar]

Especially if you're night fae

[stable wren]

what resto lego should i be aiming for in 2's/3's?

really stuck between double lifebloom and swiftmend

[vast vapor]

pretty fine having 64k hp in bear form as balance without even having the battle master trinket

[clear pulsar]

REMOVE OATH OK?

REMOVE IT

THROW IT ON SCRAPPER

[vast vapor]

whyy