pvp

[clear pulsar]

Only debuffs on enemies and buffs on allies

Like???

Also this isn't anyone saying fire mage isn't bonkers rn, just that talent and that one shot gimmick is not it. No one plays that seriously, it's a meme build that will never work twice on the same team, may not even work once on most teams. No one takes that talent.

The moment you take that you're just gimping your own damage so bad if you don't get it off, which you won't cuz it's a proc that teams can just not let you get off

[elder pilot]

The fact that this combo exists just make me sad. No one should die to a 1 shot even when Ironbark is up

Blizzard can't balance with their frontend developers team. I kinda just wanna quit pvp because it's boring.

[tiny oar]

Play bad get ur ankles broken I'm all 4 it

[tardy hare]

the fact that stuff like that exists makes the game amazing

[clear pulsar]

Bruh

[tardy hare]

lmao u r actually 🐒

[clear pulsar]

It's boring cuz you can't make 18 mistakes per minute and stay alive cuz damage is so low

Ok?

It's boring

[tardy hare]

: )

[vagrant kiln]

Guardian honor talent question: I am reading guides recommended in FAQ/dreamgrove and noticed this "Den Mother Nearby allies and yourself gain HP. Useful in solo content or questing." - when I pick that honor talent my HP doesnt change at all. Bug or outdated info in guide or I am missing something? I do have PvP mode enabled

[clear pulsar]

Outdated info

[vagrant kiln]

thanks @clear pulsar

[clear pulsar]

It used to affect you 3 patches back

Then they hotfixed it

[elder pilot]

What the hell guys. You can clearly see a one shot in the game you think it's ok? L2P is your response?

[clear pulsar]

Yes

[tardy hare]

????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
?????????????

[vagrant kiln]

there's quite a few outdated infos in these guides, a bit confusing, someone should do serious revision

[tardy hare]

you're trolling at this point ye?

[clear pulsar]

Dreamgrove people are primarily raiders

And also

[tardy hare]

you have 2 options

which you can just pick from

[clear pulsar]

No one really cares for guardian pvp to be honest

It's not fun to play, it's not fun to play against, historically it's pretty degen and not even strong like protpala

[tardy hare]

theres a pear and an apple on the table in front of you

neither requires effort to pick up

one of them causes you to die

one of them causes you to live

reminder

there is no effort in picking either up

and you know hwich does what

[clear pulsar]

Machtig are you high on dutch greens?

[tardy hare]

yet you pick the one that causes you to die

how is that unbalanced

[clear pulsar]

You sound like dutch greens

Like broccoli?

[tardy hare]

no im not on dutch greens

i am smoking

this guys chat history

form the past 2 minutes

[clear pulsar]

Very cooked

[tardy hare]

absolutely scrambled eggs my brain

[worthy osprey]

the fact that anyone can claim pvp is boring now when its finally fun again, is incredible...

[clear pulsar]

The 'game's boring' bit totally fried me

Not gonna lie

Creative gimmicks that you can fuck around with

Are literally the opposite

Of game's boring

[worthy osprey]

IDD

[clear pulsar]

Damp is one thing

Frost destro hpal 3s was boring

Guardian dh rsham too

First one is like running circles around dalaran

[worthy osprey]

Same here Glyph, ive been running and doing rbgs and pvp since legion even tho bfa sucked rbg wise at some point. It still has been fun

[clear pulsar]

Second one is liki hitting a training dummy for 16 mins

[worthy osprey]

always were and always will be

[clear pulsar]

The game mechanics and 'engine' idk

Is fun but

I've been running circles around dalaran for 20 mins already waiting on lfg

I don't want to run circles again for 20 mins inside the arena

[worthy osprey]

goddamn

what are you queing for?

[clear pulsar]

Just talking about mage lock in bfa

[worthy osprey]

oh, yea right

i get ya

[clear pulsar]

Or guardian teams

[worthy osprey]

mehe

guardian is fun, tho i never actually tried serious arena with it in bfa

[worthy osprey]

btw, out of interest. What covenant is the better for bears?

in pvp or out of pvp

Do they actually matter so much pvp wise?

[clear pulsar]

Covenants for bear in pve are kinda whatever

Necrolord is generally best in single target dam

Venthyr scales with multiple target rly well and lines up with incarn if you want to play around those cds in m+

Kyrian's best defensively

Night Fae's kinda jack of all

Gives some defense, some burst damage, aoe and st, idk

[languid knot]

I can be like 187 full verse gear or 198 with half verse gear? What would be better for feral?

[tulip falcon]

they are all meh for pvp as well, for exclusively pvp i'd say kyrian for the heals/cd as the others don't really benefit a whole lot

[clear pulsar]

Issue with bear in arena (in bfa at least) is that it was essentially just a second healer that topped damage pressing thrash and moonfire. Your gameplay was based on offhealing and using your external DR correctly. You didn't even have cyclone to chain CC and cycle DRs to say you brought any offensive pressure.

It was just rot/oom enemy healer and stay alive cuz you offheal like crazy

[vivid escarp]

When playing with elemental and hpal, whst job does ele do? Is he just pumping dmg and hexing or can/should the ele setup the kills

[clear pulsar]

Depends on items, I'd say rings and necklace it's worth to drop some idk up to 12 ilvls for vers, on armor 4 is ok, maybe 8, not more than that. Weapon never drop ilvl.

[worthy osprey]

good thing i chose Kyrian then 😂

[tulip falcon]

really depends what you're doing as it

[languid knot]

I'm at 18% verse with higher item level or 22% with lower item level @clear pulsar

[tulip falcon]

if it's rbg then kyrian will be your best bet as guardian

but overall they don't have a massive impact

[worthy osprey]

Im doing rbg as main yes

[clear pulsar]

That's a big difference from 'full vs half' lol

Idk I don't drop ilvl for vers generally

[tulip falcon]

i'm running NF on guardian and convoke is pretty useless (in RBG) but my prio was for boomkin/feral when i chose cov. If you're exclusively guardian for that then yeah go Kyrian

[clear pulsar]

Higher ilvl = more hp and more armor and more damage

[fast vale]

I’ve never done an RBG... I only came back to wow in 8.3 after a break since tbc, and there never seemed to be any groups in LFG

Is it better now?

[clear pulsar]

Groups are usually set for certain ilvl requirements

So if you were undergeared that'd be why you never saw groups

Tho it was also a dead bracket yeah

It has more participation now

[fast vale]

Wasn’t under geared but still never seemed to be anything

Sweet

Will give a try

[stone nest]

All my homies want me to go holy pally. Feels bad

[forest kite]

Dampening meta is bad, ability to one shot without any counter play is boring, two team not doing any mistake shouldn't die and win from mana management

That the right answee

[tiny oar]

@clear pulsar send help this channel is frying the only 2 brain cells I got left

[clear pulsar]

🍟

Very good

Whenever I feel some type of way about this channel I go look at #feral

It's very humbling

[tiny oar]

Yea me 2 I saw an orange boi with a worgen profile pic and thought formy got regular for a sec MDR

[worthy osprey]

Any of you boomies wants to do some rbgs? 2k xp +

[vivid escarp]

Sometimes when I incap roar, people get out of the incap Roar before i can clone any target

[clear pulsar]

Dots break it

[vivid escarp]

No dots on them at all

[frank quest]

been lurking a bit today after just buying SL - what do moonkins play compwise now?

3s and 2s (if any)

surv/ww + some healer from what I can dig from google

but pls details 😮

[clear pulsar]

Autoattack/other people @vivid escarp

Details shows cc breaks

[clear pulsar]

+rsham/hpal in 2s, rogue also works, or some other hybrid dps that can offheal, but will be harder

For 3s you cna play with anything almost

Ww, arms, spriest, ele, mage, rogue, surv

[frank quest]

awesome

[clear pulsar]

Ret

Boomie is busted, pair with any busted dps and any busted healer

[frank quest]

any updated non-icyveins post that talks about talents/conduits etc?

[clear pulsar]

And you're golden

The pins

[frank quest]

❤️

[lime light]

Everyone stop being an ape in my channel

[clear pulsar]

@vestal citrus can you add well honed instincts and innate resolve to the endurance part of conduits?

[lime light]

Or u gonna make me angry

[clear pulsar]

I think barkskin cdr is honestly the weakest endurance one tbh

For nwo anyway

It's too small

Eventually it'll be op

[tulip falcon]

isn't aping here natural

generally seems the way of every pvp forum i've seen

[clear pulsar]

Once the CDR gets to like 45, 40s cd

Then it'll probably be nice

[frank quest]

that wowhead link leads to a nonexistant page as well fyi

[clear pulsar]

But rn it's like 52s

[frank quest]

from your sticky

[clear pulsar]

Barely changes anything

That's weird it broke this week then

[frank quest]

[clear pulsar]

Was working til a few days ago

Maybe they took it down to update yeah

The other ones work

Yeah that's why he's not streaming

Or competing for that matter

Full time job + skill capped

Or bb

Yeah probably bb

Yeah it's hilarious

I like it

Boetar the LEGEND

Was right all along

It's not real business

Since it doesn't pay off

Swapxy and raiku prob dont even care about suspension

They'll make more money now anyway

One of them balkan countries tbh

Just live in the capital in a nice zone

Get paid in euros, goes far

Like being paid by US companies and living in brazil

Make US wages for a third of the cost of living

Average wage where I live is like 4-6k brl

Around 700 euro a month

[weak hinge]

700?!?

[clear pulsar]

For like, ok jobs

[brave shuttle]

What is BRL?

[clear pulsar]

Minimum wage is way less

Like 160 euros a month is minimum wage

For just playing the game yeah he's fine

[clear pulsar]

Brazil currency

Real

[tulip falcon]

used to know people that farmed gold in slavic countries because it paid better than jobs they could get

back when that was actually profitable fuck knows now

true lol

eve online used to also have ISK farmers in a lot of slavic countries

[clear pulsar]

Yeah I bet these types of online videogame jobs pay better than many jobs in placesl ike Bosnia or Bulgaria

[weak hinge]

fuck why wouldnt you just do dropshipping in europe or the USA when your country pays fuckall wages

[clear pulsar]

Cuz gettin a visa costs money

A lot of money

[weak hinge]

you can do dropshipping from anywhere

[clear pulsar]

Idk what that is tbh

Oh ok

Yeah I get it

It is too saturated in Brazil at least

[weak hinge]

im so glad living in germany rn

700€

a month

wtf

thats half my rent

[clear pulsar]

LOL

[coarse hill]

Netherlands as well... pretty good here when you hear all the other stories

put's life in perspective 😛

[clear pulsar]

Idk cost of living is lower too, not that much lower, the purchasing power disparity is pretty big still, but it's fine

The bad part is hardward costs a lot

ANything imported

[weak hinge]

@coarse hill true

[clear pulsar]

Yeah

[weak hinge]

imagine having 700€ a month to spend and building something like a 1500€ gaming PC or buying a shop mount

[clear pulsar]

Import tax is like 60% of the product price

So if you're gonna spend more than 1000 dollars you might as well take a plane and bring it with you

Will be at worst same price

[tiny oar]

🧠

[coarse hill]

tbh even with my income here i cannot justify paying over 1500 euro's for a computer. maybe if it revolves around your job or something

[clear pulsar]

A shop mount LOL

Yeah for real tho

And then like on top of that, if you're buying a pc here

For instance my pc

Cost me around 1100 dollars when I bought it

Same parts same thing in the US would have cost 700 dollars

[weak hinge]

if i was a streamer I'd legit just move to thailand or smth. some paradise with low costs for living

[tiny oar]

Actually fried lol wtf that's wild

[coarse hill]

ye apparently donations get you a lot of value haha 10 bucks get you a month of rent 😄

[weak hinge]

@clear pulsar crocodile transformation tax included?

[clear pulsar]

So I play on shit setup with 170ms, am I justified when I say I'd be easily 2.7 if I lived in the US?

[tiny oar]

Yea sketchy fucks

[weak hinge]

@clear pulsar you can visit me in germany anytime to prove yourself. just dont bring any gipsys to my house pls.

[coarse hill]

as long as you believe it, I won't tell you otherwise

[clear pulsar]

Thanks bro

[tiny oar]

I would be scared of getting in those wild ass tourist trap shit in those places tbh mayb I'm dumb and it's not that bad depending but

[clear pulsar]

You gotta learn the local language if you're gonna visit these sketch places tbh

Try to pretend you're not a gringo

[tiny oar]

Heard of ppl ordering a burger from sum sketch restaurant and it costing $500 or sumthing scummy like that

[clear pulsar]

Gringos deffff getting charged at least twice as much

For anything and everything

The real pvp starts irl

[quartz linden]

Anyone have a guide for resto build in RBG? with covenants and legendarys and so?

[tulip falcon]

not been to brazil but i've been to some pretty bad places and its easy af to get fleeced

i got fleeced in egypt a few times pretty bad

[clear pulsar]

There isn't any RBG specific content, maybe there will be in skill-capped eventually but Idk if it's worth paying for that rn.
Play the same shit as in arena, just sub in early spring as a must pick pvp talent @quartz linden

[tulip falcon]

hell i even got fleeced in greece at the peak of their recession

[clear pulsar]

2 favelas on a dirt bike yessir

That's a mood

[tulip falcon]

resto in rbg, maybe seen that like twice

[clear pulsar]

@quartz linden just go CW, guardian affinity, sotf, overgrowth, germination. Verdant Infusion for legendary (maybe there's something to be said for running photosynthesis with DTL but I doubt it).

Early Spring / Mark of the Wild / Reactive Resin probably

Or Thorns

[tiny oar]

Yea fuck that shit dude no thank u

[clear pulsar]

It should

It does with DTL

Maybe that's the move for RBGs then, some secret tech

DTL photo earlyspring

[tiny oar]

Photo with mother tree or DTL n early spring sounds juice ya

[clear pulsar]

I think mother tree is cap tbh

But I just in general dislike procs, especially when healing

It's wild growth has a chance to make rejuv/regrowth cleave

Like 40% chance per cast or smth

[tiny oar]

Nah the WG one

Photo dtl would be ideal probs

[quartz linden]

Thank you, i am night fae, do you know which tree i should use?

[clear pulsar]

Yeah safe to default Germ with VI tho if you don't want to craft that/risk some sketch build

[tiny oar]

U aint germing shit in a bg anyways

[clear pulsar]

Too much purge

[tiny oar]

Or if u are ur ooming in 10 seconds

[clear pulsar]

Either of them, just make sure you go double Endurance imo. Well honed instincts and innate resolve are so big for survivability and you're gonna get hella chased down.

The mastery from niya is pretty good healing when you pop it

Should be better than Conflux

[quartz linden]

Ok, thank you very much for the fast answers

[tiny oar]

Yea everyone horny for that rdru bear ass for sum reason real sad

[coarse hill]

orange HP bars in general seem pretty juicy based on my experience

[clear pulsar]

I'd say germ vi is safe just cuz you get trained so much as a healer, it'd be good just to keep yourself up if you are out of range to be purge banged @tiny oar

But idk really

[coarse hill]

as balance i feel like im playing gaurdian most of the time

[tiny oar]

Even if u get kicked insta or cced ull still get the mastery proc from niya convoke so that's nice

[coarse hill]

ah was talking about 2's

[clear pulsar]

And if you hit them you just give them more damage anyway

With insta starfires

[coarse hill]

ye lot's of survival above a certain HP treshold

just started and the difference between 170 and 185 are immense. or i just got better...

[clear pulsar]

I ran a key the other day with the barkskin lego and barkskin cdr talent + condy, was like 30s cd

[finite kraken]

hey guys, what is the most brain dead rbg comp? 3 boom/1lock/rog/ mage/v dh/rsham/disc/hpala?

[clear pulsar]

O yeah haha you need more gear

170 is waaay too low

185 still kinda low but closer to the average queuers at least

[coarse hill]

ye 185 now, been catching up. Thesis has prio though haha

[clear pulsar]

First week of january writing thesis

Necrolord ele with the new lego is super juice probably

[coarse hill]

feelsbadman

[clear pulsar]

GIGA pops

[tulip falcon]

tbh i don't see many people run spriest

[clear pulsar]

Isn't taht some troll af totem shit?

[tiny oar]

Yea I'm assuming rbgs are enough of a joke that u ain't gotta worry about it that much. Just go where ur fearless leader points u n break ppls ankles be4 they break urs rite

[clear pulsar]

Is that venthyr?

Vesper totem or smth

[finite kraken]

will give this a shot

[tulip falcon]

would also put DK in as a possibility in flex spot

seen a lot of teams run that

[clear pulsar]

I was watching zeepeye and he's got it, it seemed to feeearrm

Swapxy dead ass saved all the soul ash for it and made it straight 235 too

[tulip falcon]

I rarely see anyone run spriest on EU tbh it's usually double lock

[clear pulsar]

Spriest has some nasty burst too these days

On top of topping the pad meter

[simple latch]

sometimes convoke just carries lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PI6ns-g5cw

[tulip falcon]

ye mindgames is pretty rigged

actually hate that shit

[coarse hill]

noice, sometimes it get's canceled within a second as well 😦

[simple latch]

yes more often than not lol

[clear pulsar]

Mindgames into shadow crash void torrent death is 100-0 on anyone

[simple latch]

but with bop aura mastery its pretty dirty

[coarse hill]

for that reason i've picked kyrian... more consistent i think

but can't underestimate the fun of convoke

[clear pulsar]

If you hit earth shock and double surge on same global do people just 100-0?

[coarse hill]

i mean... moon goes splat

[tulip falcon]

running warr with kyrian spear also

fun times

[simple latch]

i was kyrian for everything but it felt just sooo much worse in pve so i went night fae, I DONT NOW regret lol

[clear pulsar]

If you're boomie kyrian is pretty ok in pve

It just depends on whether you have someone too coordinate with

[simple latch]

its just harder to play correctly

night fae is easy to do right

[coarse hill]

always play pve with a fire mage.. so kyrian seemed fine

[tiny oar]

I love machine gunning for an entire hp bar

[simple latch]

yes for sure

[tulip falcon]

I know quite a few people didn't go convoke early because they thought it'd get nerfed

I know quite a few people didn't go convoke early because they thought it'd get nerfed

[simple latch]

here is a good set up of convoke on the warrior

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cQrIg92jyI

[tulip falcon]

then here we are...

[clear pulsar]

Idk holiday weeks

[tiny oar]

Soon TM

[clear pulsar]

I got my reroll kyrian quest ready on main tbh

[tulip falcon]

a lot

[simple latch]

rets, enchance, convoke, combust

[clear pulsar]

@vestal citrus get fukt

If they nerf wog they'll probably nerf all hybrid healing too tho

Including enhance

[tiny oar]

Pls no wod nerfs my pally finally starting to get geared

[simple latch]

wws do insane dmg too

im honestly fine with no changes though

ret one shots are a littttle insane

[tulip falcon]

theres a lot of various shit that needs to be tuned

[simple latch]

everyone is scared of it going back to bfa 30 minute dampener games

where there is an affix of your eyes burning

[tulip falcon]

because blizz usually overtune when theres an issue

whether its a nerf or buff

[clear pulsar]

I would rather game stay the same than having some wack overnerf on shit

Tbh

[simple latch]

yeah screw that

[tulip falcon]

people are scared of them overtuning and nerfing damage across the board and going back to bfa 2.0 which could easily happen

[simple latch]

we started playing into spriest warrior rsham last night, holy crap that comp

[tulip falcon]

some stupid blanket tuning because they cba fixing specific things have happened before

[simple latch]

they are soo hard to kill and just do insane dmg the entire time

[coarse hill]

Davo you stream your games? haven'

[simple latch]

i do not

[coarse hill]

t played any wow since MoP so looking for someone to learn from

[simple latch]

gtx970 life lol

watch solomon

or coriki

[quiet atlas]

Whats the preferred legendary for guardian FC in rbgs? The barkskin one? The cc immune one? Another?

[simple latch]

I dont think im anyone to learn from lol

[tulip falcon]

@quiet atlas cc immunity sleeper one by far yes

[coarse hill]

find myself doing low damage. maybe im just cycloning to much or positioning is off. upkeep of dots is prolly big as well

relatively low damage ofcourse

[quiet atlas]

Cool thanks for the quick answers!

[simple latch]

@coarse hill supatease's youtube videos are also really good

[clear pulsar]

Does circle increase proc rate of shooting stars? @vestal citrus

[simple latch]

yes cycloning too much is a problem

[clear pulsar]

I'm thinking I'll just play boomie in rbgs for vault cap

[simple latch]

boomies do soooo much dmg gotta get out that counter pressure, its a waste to be spamming cyclone and it be on dr when you actually need it

[clear pulsar]

And I have circle, dont wanna bother making a boomie lego yet

[simple latch]

two reasons to cast cyclone,

to peel when someone is ccd

and to bait out kicks

when they kick cyclone its usually a good thing, unless someone is 10 percent hp lol

[coarse hill]

great! i think that's my main problem then and CA'ing on low AP maybe

[clear pulsar]

If you can record/stream and show the vid or vod to people it's great to be able to point specific things out. Or even just so you can watch yourself.

Watching your own replays is best way to improve in any game

[simple latch]

if youre kyrian then absolutely lo

[crystal heron]

Has anyone got a conduit path for night fae balance please?

[hollow junco]

Just run niya for convoke one shots nothing else matters that much

be sure to* that is

[coarse hill]

ye i'll try recording. for now just gearing and working on game knowledge again. lot's of new shiz since MoP haha

[crystal heron]

like what conduits to use etc

[simple latch]

i use niya with the barkskin cooldown reduction and conflux the elements

[clear pulsar]

Well honed instincts >>>>>

@simple latch trust bro

Way better

More impactful

[simple latch]

which one is that?

niya gives you those 16k starsurges

[hollow junco]

free frenzy regen is so nice

[simple latch]

even after convoke is over

[clear pulsar]

Conflux and niya together is so fat overkill but whatever floats ur boat, the other potencies are pretty small anyway.

[tulip falcon]

well honed instincts makes me hard

[clear pulsar]

Well honed instincts is endurance condy

[simple latch]

is that the free frenzied regen at 40 percent ?

[coarse hill]

free frenzy is very strong. makes you unkillable most of the time :p

[clear pulsar]

Yeah

[simple latch]

i thought it was just guardian

[tulip falcon]

no

works in all forms

[coarse hill]

nah it's any form

[simple latch]

oh niiiiice

[hollow junco]

You can cancel it with any shapeshifter though so important to actually be aware of it's procs

[coarse hill]

best part is, your own regen doens't go on CD. i mean 2 frenzies without HoTW yes please

[vivid escarp]

If it proccs and u have mindgames on you, do you execute yourself?

[turbid pendant]

What is the best legendary for rdruid rbg ?

[fossil berry]

what legendary should i craft?

for balance

[exotic wolf]

yes

learned it the hard way. will not happen again

be aware of getting mindgames while dropping. cancel fr as fast as possible

[naive ocean]

How do you deal with rogue mage disc in 3s

What the secret

[dark solstice]

just press convoke silly

[mild pelican]

how are ferals feeling about incarn vs SotF?

[weak hinge]

@mild pelican im not a feral but i think everyone is using SotF everywhere.

except for when you play like a rogue in a setup like FMP for example to use the stealth openers

[clear pulsar]

Incarn's only usefuk if you're playing some very fast double dps low cr games

Would never consider it in any game that lasts longer than 2 goes

[violet cedar]

Is it possible to gear feral and resto through pvp? Or would I have to have two separate characters

[tulip falcon]

yeah incarn really isn't worth it anymore in most cases over SotF since they changed baseline berserk to include the damage increase that was previously on incarn

[remote cave]

@violet cedar You can

[clear pulsar]

Gear is the same, all armor that you can buy has both agi and int, vers #1 with some balance of haste and mastery are good stats for both. You just need 2 weapons.

[violet cedar]

@remote cave @clear pulsar tysm!!

[clear pulsar]

The only concession you have to make is on covenant, but generally speaking people play 'suboptimal' covenants as both specs all the time regardless

What type of thing would you wanna play? Bgs, rbgs, 2s, 3s, m+, raid?

[patent dove]

i am currently contemplating

if a slower meta would actually benefit druid in a way that closes the gap in power between them and the meta healers

would less damage not just make it easier for priests and shamans to spam purge, cc and dps?

[clear pulsar]

Resto druid doesnt do little healing

The issue I think is really just the prep time

If you get caught out you need more globals to pick people up than hpal or disc or rsham

[exotic wolf]

^

[clear pulsar]

You dont have that immediate big heal even with cds

But if you are free casting and have space, you can outheal shit just fine

Also mana

Hpal never goes oom

[patent dove]

but that's the thing right? you can't just outheal. if your team takes more damage than NS, swiftmend and your hots can heal, then you die. i have ran into that situation and while the only solution to that is preventing damage by cc'ing and positioning, paladins and priest have buttons for that

[clear pulsar]

Rsham doesnt rly care for being low mana either

[patent dove]

that's another good point

[stark wolf]

and the necrolord mail set looks cool.

ops its not shammy discord 😄

[patent dove]

people play multiple classes in here so that's fine i guess^^

[clear pulsar]

I think it's just the design shift they made for m+ that made resto a bit worse in arena

[stark wolf]

i wish leather would be as nice ... i really think they screwed up 😦

[weak hinge]

@clear pulsar any chance u know whats the best 2v2 legendary for Resto Druid?

[clear pulsar]

Maybe they just need to make purge cost more mana

[patent dove]

verdant infusion for healing power

[clear pulsar]

I use verdant infusion, it's suuuuuper nice

[patent dove]

oath of the elder druid for memes

[clear pulsar]

Saves a lot of mana, lets you stay aggressive more often and still not let hots drop off, etc

I think natural orders will is actually tremendous vs rogue mage

And then uuuuh probably circle for more damage

But you'll oom faster

So oath could be ok but I wouldnt make it. The problem of autoprocing when you dont want it to is sadge.

Best thing about verdant infusion is it basically doubles the value of some cds, like CW and Adaptive Swarm.

[patent dove]

unintentionally activating it doesn't even happen that often because you need to be in combat when shifting happens. if you restealth behind a pillar, it won't activate on raking

[clear pulsar]

They could/should buff it to 10s extension so you can have 100% uptime on CW

[patent dove]

that would be some sweet buff

[clear pulsar]

@patent dove if youre just shifting cc or for movement tho

[patent dove]

infact you would get more uptime than that because you would get another 6 sec of it on a second target

[clear pulsar]

To kite etc

You dont only go cat form when you restealth

[patent dove]

it kind of limits your shifting to travel that's true

[lime light]

are u talking so much irl too @clear pulsar

[clear pulsar]

I only talk to like 3 people irl these days

[lime light]

monkaS

[clear pulsar]

Stuck in small town at my parents' during covid

[lime light]

are u serial killer

[clear pulsar]

So I only talk to family and 3 friends from college

[dusty needle]

does anyone else feel bad that you are forced to be glyph of stars for pvp

[clear pulsar]

Wuuuut

[patent dove]

@dusty needle embrace the boomkin in all it's glory

[clear pulsar]

Are you ok?

[dusty needle]

you got glyph of stars for pvp because incarn is a lot harder to see

so some people might not notice it as fast

[patent dove]

don't use it

[clear pulsar]

No one looks at ur character model for that LOL

Everybody in pvp will know you're in incarn or CA by your buffs my g

[dusty needle]

this is true

[clear pulsar]

Everyone uses a cd or buff tracking addon

[dusty needle]

but glyph of stars removes another indicator

[clear pulsar]

Omnibar, nameplate buff shit, etc

Nobody at all notices incarn character model

[dusty needle]

it takes time to register these things

[clear pulsar]

I swear to you

[patent dove]

some people even use lossa and have a voice yelling it out

[dusty needle]

having an extra notification in the character model just speeds up how fast they react

[clear pulsar]

You're 30yds away from people no one can even see it

I dont understand

Whatever

[dusty needle]

have you played boomy?

[clear pulsar]

If you think thats a thing

[dusty needle]

the enemy team is right on top of you

getting to free cast as a boomy is pretty rare man the enemy team has to shut down ur cc

[clear pulsar]

You're the only person I've seen express that perspective

It's kinda wild

Idk how to feel rn

[patent dove]

so i can only speak of my experience and let me tell you. everybody will take the run if you pull incarn, no matter what form you are

[lime light]

boomy is rare

[dusty needle]

i mean if you look at awc boomkins they all use stars and they will all tell you the exact same reason as me

[clear pulsar]

Forced to use glyph of stars cuz incarn character model

I think you got a meme answer from some streamer or r1 player cuz the question is kinda weird tbh

[dusty needle]

no its because you used to not be able to use addons on the tournament realm

so glyph of stars was an advantage

[clear pulsar]

Good lord

Ok bro

Then dont use glyph of stars then

[patent dove]

even if it was, it certainly isn't anymore because on ladder, you can use addons

[dusty needle]

idk i just think there should be a glyph to make the animation less obvious in normal boomkin form

like ca or something

[clear pulsar]

You ever see a streamer with those eye trackers?

They're constantly checking out the buff on target frame

Regardless

Like

It's fine

Think what you will

Use the glyph or not

[patent dove]

i think this discussion is heading nowhere

[clear pulsar]

This is a very weird conversation

[patent dove]

but i would agree: more boomy forms would be nice

[dusty needle]

i mean not really like any way possible to get even the slightest advantage should be explored

however small

[clear pulsar]

At 2019 lans you could use addons btw

Gladius / bigdebuffs / flyplatebuffs were all allowed

[dusty needle]

even if its like a few ms here or there

[clear pulsar]

In blizczon too

Then dont use the glyph

And win away

[rigid herald]

In a BG I'll know from the pre-game stats screen who's moonkin. I'll keep an eye on their nameplate to keep track of Convoke or other important buffs. I don't care how their avatar look.

[clear pulsar]

Enjoy the mad cr it'll give you cuz them melees wont notice your incarn for an extra global!?

That's really really not a thing lol swear to you

[patent dove]

btw guys

did you know

[dusty needle]

you are probably right but this is a the class pvp discord and if i cant discuss it here

where can i lol

[patent dove]

that incarn is less than max range on damage spells?

[dusty needle]

this is the perfect place to talk about anything that might be even the slightest advantage

and if its not i can get arguments against it

[stiff kettle]

for feral, is lunar inspiration+blood talons better than sabretooth+feral frenzy

[safe heart]

Probably not id think

[clear pulsar]

You can say whatever you want, in fact what you did say was "does anyone else feel bad cuz you're forced to use glyph of stars?"
All I said is that is not a thing, glyph of stars makes no difference at all, no one looks at that

[rigid herald]

I think it depends on gameplay styles. Like, sure, maybe some people focus on visual cues from character's avatars. But most of the high level players are used to look at nameplates, because they show you a lot more info, more clearly, and in a single place. For example, I never notice if a mage is on fire during combustion, but the combustion Icon I never miss.

[clear pulsar]

Lunar inspiration is very weak, and BT would have more synergy with sabertooth than with LI.
There's a pve single target setup with Necrolord + Circle of Life and Death where you play Lunar Inspiration, Savage Roar and Feral Frenzy. It's good dam in pve, and I've memed with it in arena too, overall it does ok rot, I wasn't outdamaged by people, but the pressure is pretty small in 2v2. I think in 3v3 with certain comps it's ok, but it's not really ever better than just playing Sabertooth as Kyrian or Night Fae.

[clear pulsar]

What this means is really the people who rely on character model to tell what effects you have active are all 1400

[patent dove]

do 1400 players really actively look out for enemy cooldowns?

[stiff kettle]

alright, cheers for explanation

[rigid herald]

And I would add that relying in character models will hinder you when facing small races like vulpera/gnome...etc.

[clear pulsar]

I once saw this UI setup with a dynamiccam addon that looked very interesting for RPers and people that just wanted to level and feel like wow is a different game. Lemme find it @patent dove

https://www.reddit.com/r/WowUI/comments/cd2b4k/ui_azerite_ui_bartender_dynamic_cam_custom_weak/

I imagine there are people that play something similar to this!?

[patent dove]

that UI does look dope tho

getting witcher vibes

[clear pulsar]

It looks kinda lit

But would you ever play arena like that?

[patent dove]

couldn't get rating with it but in style

[jaunty fog]

As someone who’s NF for pve, would you guys recommend boat or dreambinder? Have r3 boat and r1 dreambinder, i know kyrian is bis and dreambinder is prob nutty with that but i feel like cheesing full moon/surge 1shot crits with boat is pretty stupid with convoke

only 1600 rn so sometimes it’s not insta interrupted and then it’s just gg

[clear pulsar]

I think boat is ok and if you like it then you like it

[patent dove]

convoke and boat are a win condition on it's own. it's not the optimal setup, but it can work on occasion

[clear pulsar]

But thing is

Convoke doesn't need more modifiers on top of it to 100-0 people right?

I guess if you play Niya with Conflux and Boat, then you Incarn Convoke and your first Starsurge crits for 20k

And you do something even if people counterplay

But like

If you get a clean convoke setup

You'll kill someone regardless of using all those buffs on top

[patent dove]

well i suppose it's about not requiring a clean setup right?

2 seconds of convoke vs. 4 seconds of it

[clear pulsar]

Yeah

I think both are fine

Dreambinder is better/more consistent

But it's whatever

Fuck around with them, have fun

[jaunty fog]

yeah that’s true, that’s why i was thinking about playing more with dreambinder for more consistent kills against people that interrupt convoke

but pressing incarn convoke into a 24k full moon 12k surge is pretty meme

[clear pulsar]

Well Convoke only casts Full Moon about 20% of the time afaik

[jaunty fog]

yeah it’s inconsistent especially with people interrupting, probably@should just start playing games with dreambinder and see how it feels

[patent dove]

dreambinder and starlord is some pretty juicy rot damage on top of the surges

plays really smoothly

[clear pulsar]

Rot

[astral ginkgo]

Whats the best legendary for gaurdian FC?

[patent dove]

don't underestimate

[jaunty fog]

i would assume sleeper for cc immunity

[tulip falcon]

yep

[tulip falcon]

sleeper 100% of the time

[slow socket]

Is boomkin good in any double dps 2s comps?

[astral ginkgo]

ret pali seems solid

[slow socket]

What about a rogue?

[astral ginkgo]

can def make a rogue worlk

easy to get convoke up

off

[slow socket]

Is convoke the go to? I was thinking of going kyrian

[astral ginkgo]

depends what ratiing u wanna play at i guess

[forest kite]

To be honest, good team who can't stop a convoc just stack together to mitigate and it's pretty easy to heal it, nf should play with boat to maximize it

[slow socket]

I want to push as high as I can

[astral ginkgo]

id personally go convoke

its just easier lol

[forest kite]

For arena yes kyrian is the right move

[astral ginkgo]

its also dope for every other spec

but kyrian is def 'better'

[forest kite]

I was kyrian, swapped nf to get hota in rbg

And now I feel like huge shit in arena

[slow socket]

Lol I see

Yeah my buddy plays a rogue and I was thinking of levelling my boomkin to play with him

[forest kite]

It's simple you can kill good ppl only with convoc, but good ppl never get killed by convoc except if u're lucky

You can't kill *

[slow socket]

Yeah convoke always just seemed super gimmicky to me so I'm not interested in playing it

[forest kite]

Also, convoc seem easier at first, but once you meet good people it's simply harder, you have to bait and track absolutely everything able to stop convoc

And convoc at the perfect time, even if you know it will be interrupted because they always keep something

[fair pecan]

FYI the pinned boomkin wowhead link is broken

#pvp message

This message

[forest kite]

But let's imagine there is only a stormbolt from a war, you can take your distance and convoc, even if he stop you, you still can one shot with some luck xD

The only good pvp guide is the one in video

You don't need to know anything else, everything is in the video

[fair pecan]

Yeah -- just was pointing it out. I'm watching the video.

[forest kite]

All writed guide are outdated or trash

[stark plover]

Feral opener, are there any suggestions on opening with tigers fury, FF, and Symmetry legendary? I'm thinking that it can be a bit inefficient with TF energy and FF combo points, or is that just something you live with?

[haughty compass]

Convoke and Kyrian both good. Convoke just takes a little set up

[clear pulsar]

TF before FF then Berserk Bite Bite Bite @stark plover

On opener you can waste 1 cp from Rake

Or you can Rake Rip then FF

[stark plover]

cool, thanks

[void nimbus]

How do you arena as Feral with a prot p in 2's, play slow kite, defensive,clone etc or just go balls to the wall and hope the prot can keep you alive?

1800 - 2100 push

Up until 1800 i've just relied on ilvl brute force

[tardy hare]

@void nimbus defensive in n out

Respect cds

U can take a lot

But have to respect cds

Prot pala basicly stays back as healer

Only comes in when really possible or to just fuck shit up

[void nimbus]

Ok cool, we've just been popping people with convoke+ashen hollow

But feel like that'll stop being as viable at higher ratings

[tardy hare]

Debatable

I still pop people with convoke

[void nimbus]

lol

[tardy hare]

Occasionally

[lost siren]

what conduit are people running on feral? I'm night fae with niya but I can get 2 potency with dreamweaver rn

[devout frost]

niya better than dream

unless u got degen hpal that sac the pod

[lime light]

and a priest that never rapture

but rapture the ood

pod

[stable halo]

Do you ever actually bite bite bite even if it's with 3-4 cp?

[lime light]

4 bite in zerker with symmetry

[thick summit]

hey are there anywhere honor costs for upgrading 2 hand weapons from 200 to 220?

[south siren]

what conduits do people use on night fae balance, and is it different depending on 2s/3s?

[scenic storm]

convoke one + the frenzied regen one is what i use

[alpine matrix]

the bonus damage and healing when convoke is activated?

[devout frost]

conflux, wellhoned, ursine vigor

[south siren]

tyty

[devout frost]

only differs depending on your healer

since u might choose to run pod if u have disc or hpal

in that case conflux, wellhoned, fury prob

2nd potency could be fury, alignment or umbral

doesnt matter much for NF

[slim robin]

Feral affinity or guardian for resto in 3s?

I wanted feral for dmg but end up just running for my life or healing team instead so Im thinking guardian ?

[lunar ginkgo]

how good is tauren stun on pvp?

[dusty sphinx]

Yes

[stable halo]

Is tauren stun+cyclone a thing?

[hardy cargo]

In 3s 99% of the time resto will be in bear or deer form

[dapper obsidian]

Hey whats best Pvp addons for DR / interrupts?

[tiny oar]

@lunar ginkgo @stable halo war stomp clone is basically poor man's nelf rake/ meld drink but still good / best option for horde ya. Racials won't be the thing that keeps u from duelist glad etc.

[lunar ginkgo]

I just asked because I didn't like the zandalari troll passives

[tiny oar]

Gladius shows DRs by default on enemy team, DiminishingReturns tracks DRs on urself, and Omnibar can be configured to only track all kicks, although I have a separate omnibar for enemy cds too @dapper obsidian

[lunar ginkgo]

what is the addon to track win and losses?

[tiny oar]

REFlex

[tiny oar]

Yea I was zandalari in s2 bfa also, gonk buff + feral aff + 3x longstrider traits was some real nice move speed. Tauren now tho stomp clone is real clutch.

@stable halo

[stable halo]

Is it a tibia thing?

[lunar ginkgo]

I'm missing a weapon to play feral, is the honor one decent?

[dapper obsidian]

Thanks

[tiny oar]

It's less about dmg (ur not doing a whole lot of that in 3s anyways) n more about whether ur comp needs ur feral stuns to setup go's. For stuff like splay/ MLD / god comp it's basically mandatory to be feral most games for stuns on kill targ/ cc for ur mage.

If you're just playing a cleave comp or melee caster you're prolly fine just playing guardian every game.

[tiny oar]

No ppl just come in here thinking about crafting elder druid for defensive purposes and it makes me sad.

[tiny oar]

Not entirely ideal stats feral wants vers mastery mostly, but its fine if you have nothing else.

For weap slot ur best best is just throw on your highest ilvl regardless of stats but preferably with some vers on it.

[lunar ginkgo]

I literally have nothing better, coming from boomkin :/

symmetry is mastery/versa?

[tiny oar]

U should craft it with vers mast ya. N yea if you got literally nothing else it's fine 4 now.

[lunar ginkgo]

weapon is the only thing holding me to switch to feral

I'm playing chicken atm but wanna try meele spec

[tiny oar]

Ye get that wep n start biting people's ankles off

[lunar ginkgo]

Can I make my prowl bar be exactly like my cat bar?

[stable halo]

Is crit as bad as people say? I see leader with a lot of crit

[forest kite]

crit have less value because it's only 175% and not 200%

but , still better than before , before it was 150% ( btw , make pvp great again , revert the 175% change )

[weak dove]

is there a recommended first conquest buy?

[forest kite]

in this meta , your are killing with Crit , so ( i don't know how is feral now exactly ) if you have nothing that give you massive chance to crit on FB

then crit is nice.

[weak dove]

im using DTL and gonna get unending soon

[forest kite]

buy cheap one first , because if you are lucky , you will have the expensive one in the vault .

for exemple , Neck/rings are cheap and give so so much versatility.

[lost siren]

are there any good written guides or video guides on the general gameplan for jungle cleave?

[weak dove]

yea my rings are pretty good rn tho

[lost siren]

there's a short text on wowhead but I wanna find something more in depth

[weak dove]

chest and feet are 184

[timber prism]

is there good video guides on KYRIAN balance druids in pvp? I want to get better

[forest kite]

anyway you can buy anything u want , it's all rng , if you have a good rng , you could buy cheap thing and get expensive one in the vault

if you have bad rng you could also have duplicate + cheap item with unwanted stats

or like me , Triple wrong trinket .

[plain spruce]

guys what u do as feral vs warr in 2s?

just surrender ?

XD

[mighty vale]

when u dont gain any conquest points this week can u do them in the next week till the maximum cap?

[shadow dagger]

yes

[forest kite]

yes

you can afk 1 month , you wont lose any conquest , just a bigger cap to do .

but you lose the vault.

[lunar ginkgo]

should I macro stun/interrupt with wild charge?

[forest kite]

you can if u want too

but you have to keep an single bind with kick and an other one with wild charge

[fickle junco]

would get messy imo

[shadow dagger]

think of all the times you want to wild charge

without using interrupt/satun

[forest kite]

not really , if he just want to wildcharge/kick on focus with a single bind

as boomy , you use mass root / beam on the same button , why not wild charge/kick 😄

[lunar ginkgo]

how do you guys use focus, btw?

totally newbie

[fickle junco]

i have all my interrupts on the same button and stuns on a modifier of that same button. the quicker you can react the better. its possible you could think you want to stun but click wild charge>stun button instead but wild charge being on CD

[lunar ginkgo]

do you guys manually change to cat form everytime or macro it on every skill?

[fickle junco]

I have
"#showtooltip [stance: 1]CatForm; [stance: 2]Convoke the Spirits; CatForm
/cast [stance: 1]CatForm; [stance: 2]Convoke the Spirits; CatForm"

[ember temple]

really !!!??

how much is cap each week?

[fickle junco]

450

[ember temple]

because i have 2300 or something to cap this week... (just started to pvp this week)

what!! 🤨
now i understand why people are pissed

[fickle junco]

we are at 2400 this week?

[oblique wharf]

Anyone play boomy spriest in 2s

[fickle junco]

• its 2200 this week

[ember temple]

2.250

[alpine matrix]

I play boomy mage in 2's

[lunar ginkgo]

which one ppl use other than gladius?

[oblique wharf]

@lunar ginkgo Sarena

[past relic]

it's 550 per week, not 450

[lunar ginkgo]

thanks, any additional changes for elvui users or just download and use?

[oblique wharf]

Dont use elvui is my only advise

[lunar ginkgo]

Yeah, I'm really thinking about stop using it

Bartender looks enough

[queen copper]

Elvui is fine? Just saves having to download bar mod and nameplate mod and unitframe mod and bag mod etc

Depends what u want

[oblique wharf]

Nah elvui is trash imo

For arena that is

[lunar ginkgo]

k, I'll bite

do you use bartender tho?

[oblique wharf]

Yeh i use bartender

Specifically cause i use a naga

[modest latch]

@oblique wharf ye I basically turn off all Elvui stuff for arenas

is there a way to have nameplatecooldowns with plater not be garbage? anyone know

[hollow junco]

For night fae/boat boomies is anyone considering rocking the proc trinket or is badge hands down the move?

[lunar ginkgo]

how do you do that?

[low dove]

with elv i turn off the elv arena frames and thats it pretty much

have a hotkey to hide the left and right panels also

[devout frost]

Option to hide most addons in specific instances

[karmic locust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/787039371621564416/793351081119318036/unknown.png

I'm into the make your own UI business

Elvui is too much. Just use default with a few very light weight QoL add-ons.

[ember temple]

yeah ! I like that

i use elvui tho... but made it look a lot better

I sometimes feel that normal UI is faster than elvui other uis

bars

[wraith ember]

What is the best resto rbg legendary? or is it too situational

[lunar ginkgo]

should I hold honor by any reason?

[shell shore]

No reason to hold honor of you're capped

[lunar ginkgo]

not capped

and, which conduits for feral?

[weak dove]

which medallion should i get

the haste int or the extra health on demand

for resto

[karmic locust]

Haste

Resto is haste hungry

[weak hinge]

@weak dove u need both

[inland gulch]

Hey. Is anyone using something like /cancelform /cast dash macro to get from cat and back to cat without cooldown?

It seemed really cool way to fast shift, but when I use it in cat, it gives me my caster from that /cancelform but it seems that it's somehow broken because it won't put my cat form action bar back. Any ideas? It's such a shame 😦

[lime light]

ofc

[true ivy]

Whats the stat prio currently for balance in arenas?

[weak hinge]

haste versa mastery crit

[true ivy]

Wait haste over vers?Oo

[weak hinge]

idk just go for haste vers mastery

if your also playing resto enchant vers

[lunar ginkgo]

when do we use brutal slash on pvp?

[naive pelican]

what do i play in rbgs

someone hilfe

1222321?

boomie

[placid mirage]

Yeah that's what I do around 1850 cr 2k+ mmr

[queen copper]

Swap treants and foe for base sitting

Also I swap renewal for WC depending on map

[placid mirage]

Any maps in particular or what situations do you take wc

No one ever made me base sit yet so that's a bonus

[weak hinge]

@placid mirage arathi to not get knocked off the cliff

[placid mirage]

Yeah I've saved myself a couple times with nf teleport but it's longer cd

I've gotten a good amount of kills on eots with incap roar into typhoon

[main wave]

Do people roll with the duration reduction trinket?

Like ever

[haughty compass]

Don’t need that much haste as moonkin. Surge spam gives you a bunch of haste with starlord

[weak hinge]

@haughty compass what

[drowsy nymph]

When i get combatant at 1400 CR, do i loose it if i go under 1400CR?

[queen copper]

Generally il take wc on non base maps

Depends if I’m sitting or not

[queen copper]

Yes byt you will get a 1400 reward in chest

[drowsy nymph]

okay thanks

[fickle junco]

yes and no.
you should still get the weekly chest for the weekly best. but your current rank needs to be @ the rank to upgrade gear

next week you will need to win At 1400 again or the vault will not be at the higher rank

[tawny trench]

feral or boomkin for pre 50 pvp ?

[queen copper]

Feral sucks moonkin master race

[devout frost]

pre50 pvp is a thing?

[quasi robin]

What do you need for the spider mount, 2400 once?

[patent dove]

no

just farm rated

you'll get it eventually

each win fills a bar

[topaz thicket]

Any good feral PvP streamers people recommend watching?

[patent dove]

snupy axtin mocfernando tonyferalmovies

pins

[tidal linden]

It’s only rated wins above 1400 that count towards the spider mount

[topaz thicket]

Thanks

[devout frost]

any 2s gives hella fewer points than 3s or rbgs

[smoky hamlet]

Day 59 , master shapeshifter talent still broken for resto Druids

[queen copper]

Resto druid pvp XD

[blissful belfry]

What are the best boomy comps in 3v3? i've done boomy resto sham havoc to 2100, but im wondering what is ideal

[queen copper]

Spriest lock mage ww war all good

[blissful belfry]

all good? okay then xD

i kinda miss low rating tho. Up to 2k rating, hpal and disc die to convoke because their dps just mongo away and leave him alone undefended

[lunar ginkgo]

how do I make combo points and cast appear over the enemy plates?

[smoky hamlet]

Resto Druids can still be good. Cyclone is still op

[stray sigil]

@lunar ginkgo in name options

resource display thingy

[ember temple]

Boomie or feral pvp ?

[lunar ginkgo]

elvui or blizzard?

[ember temple]

want to play 2v2, 3v3 and rbg

[stray sigil]

blizz

[lunar ginkgo]

I want to see it above my enemy head

[weak dove]

@weak hinge both? then i cant break cc

[stray sigil]

its gonna be above the enemy nameplate

@lunar ginkgo

[inland sequoia]

16 games no full moon yet

[devout frost]

only a 20% chance

[junior plover]

They forgot to end the PVP season

Got both mounts and my partner got a saddle

kek

[inland gulch]

What is wrong with it?

[forest moss]

both are good. your pref really

[ember temple]

okay, hmm 😄 mostly gonna play 2v2

[tepid spoke]

convoke did it

😄

[remote cave]

What spec?

Boomy?

[tepid spoke]

boomy

[remote cave]

Word, gratz

[tepid spoke]

ty

[oblique wharf]

Should a good boomy and spriest be able to carry a healer up to 2k

[junior plover]

gratz

[tepid spoke]

thx man

[junior plover]

I'm still hardstuck 1900 with feral but we're getting there

[tepid spoke]

keep at it

i lost 200 rating from 2k

to 1800

then got it back

[junior plover]

[weak hinge]

@tepid spoke what spec did u play with?

[tepid spoke]

i mostly pug so sometimes it happens

disc priest

and rogues

[junior plover]

I don't pug at all so I'm kinda wondering whether my healer is holding me back

dont wanna leave him hanging tho

[tepid spoke]

id rather have a stable partner tbh

[junior plover]

Yeah

[tepid spoke]

he will learn

[junior plover]

Totally

It's my first season so I'm not gonna be picky

happy to have made this much progress already

[tepid spoke]

yeah its good progress for first season playing

[inland sequoia]

25 games first full moon, one shot 😄

[fickle junco]

hello RNG~

[rigid herald]

Hello, would you recommend Memory of the Mother Tree for Rated BGs or is there a better option?

[queen copper]

Dunno about carry but the comp is good

[oblique wharf]

me and my spriest buddy have been pugging healers

and were hardstuck 1750

majority of our lost games the healer gets killed

yeh ik, i do everything i can

[queen copper]

Peel forever and do no dam just draws it out. I feel healer kind of has to have an idea of what to do

[oblique wharf]

yeh, many times where our healer gets peeled

but just cant top the team

[junior plover]

Play 2s

check how far you go

maybe its not all the healers

[oblique wharf]

i easily climbed to 1800 in 2s, with like 70% win rate

[junior plover]

Fair enough then

[oblique wharf]

havent climbed it in some time

maybe ill try pugging my self

doesnt help that this is my first real season pushing so i dont got achieves to link

[blissful belfry]

Full moon is so troll in arena. When you get good rng with a moon and surge on the first 2 spell of convoke, it doesnt matter how fast they kick you xD

[fickle junco]

gg

[blissful belfry]

i love to see hpal die flustered becaue the 0,6s it took for them to die was too quick for their brain to process a need to bubble

[fickle junco]

NF pod bop on pod is trolling imo

[blissful belfry]

I had a pally greater sacc a podtender. I killed the pally through the podtender

at least his bubble was down, cuz then its just a free rez

[fickle junco]

a cheat death

as game doesn't register it as a kill

[blissful belfry]

I still think podtender is absolute bullshit of a thing. And i did my 2.1 in 2s as resto dh double pod where i won a 12 min game in which both me and my dh rezzed with the pod cuz of good peels

Whenever i see a pod im just screaming on discord ''POD POD POD POD POD POD POD POD ''

[fickle junco]

pod racing. will the heal or the kill win

[obtuse marsh]

How should I start a skirmish in double dps? I want to get a good convoke off but the second I come out of stealth they swap onto me and blow me up through bear and barkskin

[fickle junco]

what spec? feral? bal? restro? guardian?

[obtuse marsh]

Feral or balance

Pref balance

Seems like every game contains at least one of Ret/rogue/arms/WW and all of them can instantly swap me and kill me through my defences

[last bison]

hows your vers gear?

[fickle junco]

I think the idea is mass>Solar>Convoke

[obtuse marsh]

Not amazing but it’s just an unranked skirmish to get honor

[last bison]

when you dont have a lot of vers gear and they have a lot of vers gear, they are going to kill you through your defensives even when you have a healer. With it being the weekly this week, people will be running skirms with a lot of vers

[fickle junco]

its easier to get it off if your teammate forces them to use up their kicks

[oblique wharf]

convoking out of stealth is a meme

[fickle junco]

all you need is memes to get a bit of honor.

[obtuse marsh]

It's double dps skirmish

if you don't use it in the first 10 seconds you don't use it all because the game is over

[fickle junco]

unless you are Guardian then its over in about 3 mins if the dps don't have off heals.

[oblique wharf]

saying that as a dps with off heals

[blissful belfry]

Just stay stealthed long enough for them to commit on your partner and reveal yourself at maxrange from them, it gives you enough time usually to at least channel half of it, depending on the classes

[obtuse marsh]

What about vs rogues?

They will wait for you

In my experience

[blissful belfry]

if its double rogue, just wait until they open your friend

if its single rogue, let your friend duel the other dude and pop out from as far as you can if he's losing the duel

or pop out (still from as far as possible) if the rogue opens

[fickle junco]

Hunters, DK, Rouge, mage, warrior,

[blissful belfry]

If the ennemy has half a brain and a long range cut, you wont convoke. Best you can do is convoke out of thin air, make them cut you and then triple surge crit in incarn to kill

convoking will give you the mastery of niya and then you triple surge with incarn

that is if you think you will be cut before incarn+convoke does its job

[obtuse marsh]

Hmm ok that's helpful thanks

So out of stealth it would be - moonkin form, moon or sunfire (to get in combat else convoke just spams heals), incarn, convoke?

[lunar ginkgo]

someone got a good profile for omnibar?

[fickle junco]

if you open and the enemy team isn't focused on your team mate, convoke will get interrupted very fast.

[tight ferry]

should I take a different guardian legednary?
for

rbgs

[crude minnow]

Sleeper is recommended

[ember temple]

Feral druid legendary, why do people choose head instead of hands ?

[tardy hare]

more stats

[ember temple]

okay 🙂

[tight ferry]

@crude minnow what does sleeper do?

nvm

[surreal heron]

legacy

[primal bane]

pvp boomie missives?

[karmic locust]

I'm gonna say haste vers.

Check wowhead.

The pvp guides on wowhead are written by rank 1 players of that class and have lots of experience in general.

[forest kite]

For a 3s comp with Rsham and Spriest.... Balance or Feral druid?

I figured

That's easier cause I main resto anyway

Friend's jsut leveling a shaman and we haven't played a lot of 3s

[sand panther]

Is it odd the guides and advic ehere for boomy is kyrian - but most 2400+ boomies are night fae (thelootdistrict) in 3s? Are they close enough then that going NF isn't trolling for my new boomie?

[graceful thistle]

It is because none has bothered updating since launch

[tardy hare]

NF isnt troll

Kyrian just safe

[forest kite]

most 2400+ boomy are kyrian dude

it's like 9 kyrian for 1 nightfae in arena

lootdistrict is broken , just go to arenamate , take all boomy above 2400 , inspect their armory and you will see , there isn't any nightfae xD

[obtuse ice]

Matshit is just a troller

Don't mind him

[clear pulsar]

FINALLY MY GUY

I had the stupid ass gryphon for so long

[novel sky]

saw a guy with the frog soulshape

im jelly

ye thats the one im using

[clear pulsar]

I've overused wolfhawk at this point

[oblique wharf]

I want the moose

[novel sky]

i want the damn frog

but its from queens conservatory

[clear pulsar]

I always swap between wolfhawk, crane, and regular fox

[clear pulsar]

I want th moose too but I already bought one with anima, can't justify to myself spending another 3k yet

[novel sky]

the runestag one is kinda nice

from the rare in ardenweald

[livid girder]

Does it make any sense?

[clear pulsar]

@vestal citrus why is boomie like this

Hilarious

[forest kite]

@sand panther The best is what Glyph saying in his video , simple. Kyrian + Badge + Fury of elune + Dreambinder as legendary work so well together , to give an insane burst every minutes and it line up with Root/Beam CD . it line up also with many strong ability from your mates , usually a mate should provide a stun on the target for a huge chance to kill once trinket is off .

Kyrian is also playable without Fury of elune but solstice and also starlord instead incarn with Boat for more quick repeated burst .

Nightfae is totaly playable too but to be honest , you have to rely more on your mate to kill ppl , except when your ennemi are totaly stupid and if your are extremly lucky .