I guess
#pvp
tardy hare
quartz swallow
To @surreal loom I got a basic version of what I was talking about: Here it is:
#showtooltip Maim
/cast [nostance:2] !Cat Form
/cast maim
So therefore, if you're not in cat form you go into cat form, if you're in cat form already, it'll cast maim. Purpose of this is so that if you're not in cat form, and you're spamming maim, you should eventually cast maim lol. got it thanks guys
GCD sucks btw đ ohh well
But next i'll be tying in a wildcharge macro and see how that goes through
compact copper
So, a random question rather was spawned by a video from Venruki about levelling with Threads of Fate. Is the pvp gear only viable for pvp? Or could you also use it for pve, as well?
tardy hare
Pve aswell
hearty pecan
@tardy hare Thank you. I am considering playing Alliance on Ravencrest. Just wondering if there are some guilds who accept semi new people for pvp.
tardy hare
But pvp gear always has versa, might not be optimal for some specs
tardy hare
<@!140164607175032832> Thank you. I am considering playing Alliance on Ravencre...
Probably, those 2 servers are big. Should have plenty of places to go
queen ginkgo
Hello guys, Im playing ballance atm, for the legendary shouldi w8 the torghast (skodus hall) for the drop or is there any second option to play and seems legit ?
smoky hamlet
Master shapeshifter is still broken since before launch. Need everyone to help report Bug to blizzard so they finally fix it
primal bane
i start to think that anything under 2.6k exp is worthless
cr is really all that counts
to find decent players
ruby walrus
Anyone else try Germination out in RBG's and find themselves going oom super fast?
compact crest
primal bane
thats rlly cool but ret pally will do that fully targeted with no rng required
echo crescent
imagine avenging wrath 3 min cd
why everyone hate druid?
i play druid since i was sold in classic with the intro of night elf
shape shifting into cat
that is why i play druid
frenzied regen/barkskin and many spells were baseline
now its a talent choice =memes
facts no one respect feral damage
every time i go as feral they laugh with emote lol
primal bane
as they should
echo crescent
idk what is wrong with insta cyclones when many class do same with very low cd
but if we could insta clone like back old days
primal bane
only reson kitty is not troll tier are conduits
echo crescent
we need 5 combo points
to insta clone
but no
bleed nerfed
insta clone gone
leader of pack gone
so did our faerie fire
which made rouge not go stealth and had armour reduction
gone
not many other class lost that many abilities
cat form used to have increased healing now its bear only i think
oh we also used to have dodge
yeah feral strong
i get it
but lets compare
now we are not really that good besides running
lacks good offence and defence
monk and rouges have it more
with shorter cds
every other class shorter cds
you know feral is one of least played spec
vast vapor
I'd like faerie fire back so much
vast vapor
rogue mages just getting resets whatever I do, dots dont even break stealth
echo crescent
after he gone feral went really down hill
if pve
why anyone would want a feral?
no reason
feral talent trees are jokes
i remember bark skin was doing same thing like pain suppression
surreal loom
I gotta mute this guy
echo crescent
ohk good
fervent gull
The amount of times i got asked if im boomy or feral while q is too damn high
echo crescent
same
if i siad feral
sorry
i got kicked or not invited
idk why they focus on bite so much
1st place we are so squishy
kite class with bite =memes
they even made hunter legendary clear all bleeds
tardy hare
Youre not gonna get invited if they focus on bleeds either lol
echo crescent
dang
yeah i see feral is a joke meme
anyone press thrash as feral?
they always made feral as a worse version of rouge xD
kindred galleon
Rouge xD
echo crescent
anyways as a game designer
of my studio
i see feral can have nice cool ablities to match the lore
oh well ima make a shapeshifter in my game rpg
it won't be this mess
feral went most pruning
silk orchid
wow. is feral that bad? I was debating going feral instead of rogue since I could always tank or heal offspec.
echo crescent
its not bad man
its way too much work
and u can't make one mistake in games
or in pve
or else ur damage gonna suck
but other classes can make lot of them still be good
or spec
and high cds on burst
Feral is fun, but it sucks that you have to put in two to three times the work for the same result other classes get for way less effort
silk orchid
gotcha.
echo crescent
that is what feral is
silk orchid
I was looking for a melee toon for pvp that was fun. I've already got a priest.
i like it. I'm just looking for something fun and in your face. I may have to bring back my warr.
echo crescent
be prepared to do 3x ot 5x more work
if feral
and manage long cds
if u got a rouge look at it or pally or mage
compare the cds
most people going to say
m complaining and i will mute this guy
and feral is FINE
surreal loom
Ferals a top 7 dps in arena likely atm. Id ignore the people that say otherwise. Once outliers get slight nerfs Feral will probably be quite strong.
valid robin
Are there good 3s comps outside jungle?
echo crescent
and no room for any bad choice
and people prefer other classes to que pvp and pve not feral
valid robin
đŹ
are acronyms in pins or just online
And do you play feral/boomy or do ppl just stick to one typically
Ahhh okay
Tyvm
silk orchid
this is some of them: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/pvp-arena-tier-list
The acronyms
valid robin
Iâve only ever pushed up to 1800 in arena but the mount this season is awesome
valid robin
I liked Sv cause it felt super controlled and then bursty, is either boom or feral like that at all?
Ty @silk orchid
devout frost
I liked Sv cause it felt super controlled and then bursty, is either boom or fer...
boomie has burst
echo crescent
m playing from classic
yeah its 3 min berserk
and boomie has better
lunar and solar
devout frost
feral can do more outside of cd windows
echo crescent
so can other classes and more than feral
silk orchid
I've done rogue heavily in the past. I also like to ranged and tank in pve now and then. That's why I'm still testing out feral. I figured I'd get some opinions before sinking too much time. I mainly like bgs, not arena.
devout frost
And boom is more control for long and the n huge foes?
yeah boomerkin have insane burst right now
echo crescent
If Rogues have A,B,C,D, utility and ferals only have A. Who you going to take in a group?
ask this
surreal loom
That icy veins list pretty funny, basically "If the comp has a warrior, ret, or fire mage its tier 1"
silk orchid
I was thinking feral with guardian would be great for flags
devout frost
That icy veins list pretty funny, basically "If the comp has a warrior, ret, or ...
solid prediction ngl
devout frost
celestial guardian being insane
echo crescent
feral used to have master shapeshifter
silk orchid
i thought feral got that too or something like that.
echo crescent
nope
nada none
see from asnwers ferals weak
mostly run and try to live
yeah who can baby sit u
u need a parent for ur kitty
to pet you
devout frost
just make ur life more enjoyable and mute them glyph
not sure they even play, to busy sitting here complaining
echo crescent
how long u playing @devout frost
people who get introduiced now to feral
as they say
silk orchid
Ah. I just checked. I was thinking of Strength of the Wild pvp talent
echo crescent
are baited
vast vapor
its just so hard to live as feral compared to other specs
silk orchid
I was playing around with it thinking the 15% health would help, plus hoping the caster form bonus helped solo, but I never tried the caster form benefit.
echo crescent
u need disc or holy pally
to sit you in 2v2
u can double dps with a hunter
who has lot of control
vast vapor
I'd like to play meleetrain in 3s and I only play druid so feral is the only option for that
but its hard
echo crescent
so make u free so u can actually do damage
instead of running
then feral is great
m playing all expansions
playing druid mostly
surreal loom
Luckily doing damage as Feral is easy, so all you normally have to worry about is telling when the enemy is gonna try to kill you
echo crescent
try it
lol
anyways older expansions feral was way more fun
now its not
that is all
vast vapor
its just extra hard to live now because game is so bursty and ppl die even through every defensive cd
rancid sundial
does celestial guardian impact self healing as well?
echo crescent
yes
rancid sundial
daamn
echo crescent
druid got the most pruning
silk orchid
Not everyone. I was in arena on my priest vs a prot pally. That was not fun.
echo crescent
ye prot pally does more burst than feral
you even have to run from prots
bear form: 1 GCD haha, Mangle: 2 GCD haha Thrash 3 GCD haha. 3 GCDâs Huzzah! I can finally ironfur!
đ
oh wait its holy damage
wraith pelican
What's a good legendary for feral pvp, sorry I'm sure y'all here this 10 times a minute but I can't see it on resources
echo crescent
its symmetry most people say
wraith pelican
Interesting lol
silk orchid
You sound really bummed out about this xpac
echo crescent
i got bummed out of every expac after mop from being feral
and i unsubbed and quit wow
novel sky
Why doompost then
thick minnow
Feral now feels the moment someone looks at you. Get bear form
thick minnow
For the HP
echo crescent
pally magic
thick minnow
Not for the armor
echo crescent
dk magic so does rouge
their poison do more damge than bleed and their worst bleed does more than rip with equal gears
i already checked and compared
feral long cds
on defence n offence
thick minnow
But also why I feel so much tankier as boomkin. Extra magic reduction and HP. Unkillable
smoky hamlet
Master shapeshifter talent still broken for Druids of all specs help report it please
smoky hamlet
This is bullshit they havenât fixed it yet. We need to be mass reporting
smoky hamlet
It doesnât even work when chosen I tested it myself just now
smoky hamlet
The more people that take the time to report it the faster itâll get solved
thick minnow
Its been mass reported.
echo crescent
get htem to make it baseline
thick minnow
The buff falls off
smoky hamlet
Sweet ! Yeah it just doesnât actually do anything , it doesnât show up , it doesnât do anything. Buff falls off
echo crescent
every druid shapeshifts constantly
thick minnow
The cat version lasts 5 seconds max. Usually only 3 seconds
Bear form stops after 5 seconds
echo crescent
i never got t he reason why they took it away from druids
thick minnow
Sometimes goes to 10 seconds
smoky hamlet
Lol we donât need it Baseline just need it to work
Thereâs no point choosing the talent since it does literally nothing
echo crescent
it used to be base
thick minnow
It instantly falls off as a buff after going cat form. Lasts a total of 3 seconds usually
Bear form lasts 5 to 10 seconds max
smoky hamlet
Kind of massively important for resto Druids in PvP ...
Canât be having that talent not work
And in war mode in general
thick minnow
The Balance one works fine though
weak dove
is resto any good in 3s?
thick minnow
No
weak dove
sad
echo crescent
all feedback i see is guardian ,resto and balance
weak dove
i dont like balancew
thick minnow
Can't deal with burst. Can't provide burst damage on command
clear pulsar
Idk if 30% bleed dam only while u ztay in cat form is something I'd personally call massively important
thick minnow
Definitely helps in 2s. Especially if you run drought
weak dove
soooo i can play resto in 3s and be good? im mostly a pver but my friends are into pvp so im dippin my toes
thick minnow
You have less burst healing. And you have to cast. Other healers don't have to cast
weak dove
should i just go balance
thick minnow
Yes
thick minnow
Its way more fun
weak dove
ive just never loved balance personally
played all other druid specs competitively lol
thick minnow
Its a lot of fun blowing kids up with surges
echo crescent
but owl makes more sense
weak dove
i have a 213 int wep so balance is prob easier to jump into
thick minnow
And being nearly unkillabke
weak dove
need to go get glyph lol
thick minnow
I have a 190 feral weapon. Can't kill anyone as feral
Balance with my 184 rekts kids
weak dove
is photo bad even if i have lb leggo
thick minnow
But resto druids have just been pruned over the years. And other classes have gained so much
The whole hots and CC doesn't work anymore when you can just play pally and have mass throughout and immunities
clear pulsar
Balance with my 184 rekts kids
Thats a git gud
thick minnow
And the change of cyclone CC to be on fear and other CC list. Really hurts
echo crescent
u masochist play feral or restro
thick minnow
Think that's the biggest thing. Used to be able to just cyclone everyone. Now you can't
echo crescent
just play balance
u get stun knockback root clone so much
even roar to move speed and a dash
way more utility and survivals
if u wanna be someone's pet for RP feral
GCD for shifting? 1sec? Thus, for Cyclone, we spend 1sec (out of cat) + 1.7sec (cast) + 1sec (back to cat) = 3.7sec to set up a 6sec CC
that is cyclone
if no dr
anyays m out
had enough reports for ferals
m just playing boomy atm
btw for restro why removed healing touch
it was nice heals for casting
like a burst of healing like holy light for pallies
shadow dagger
how do you even beat a good rogue/fire mage
in 2s
it's like impossible to keep the rogue from resetting
echo crescent
get thye addon
for cds
hard to manage than other classes but doable
he has some good videos on it
@shadow dagger
forest kite
Rdrood is pointless , you have to cast when pal/disc/rsham just don't care anymore to get kicked . Healing power is too low , you can't play offence in 3s , you can't clone except useless one when they don't apply any pressure , u're right
the kit didn't evolve " AGAIN "
but there is worst , Hmonk. From Hero to Zero
echo crescent
well everyone has gap closers
so monk healer don't do the job now
monk was nice since they cld kite and heal nice
forest kite
and Rdrood is over because of their kit
echo crescent
used to have healing touch and some burst heals
forest kite
all they can do is to hard buff hot
echo crescent
but still some masochists and hardcore druid players are top of ranks
forest kite
- clone is on fear DR now
echo crescent
yeah
forest kite
myself i'm a feral main since BC , it's pretty the same for feral
add GCD on shapeshift
forest kite
removing clone after this trash idea to give it instant
echo crescent
here the list of spells
and in between we had some nice improvements till mop
but after that its a crap show
forest kite
feral was a nich spec , in pve & pvp and it was strong & fine like that , now it's just an another melee
middle of the pack , pointless spec
shadow dagger
bruh
echo crescent
it felt good back then
forest kite
i mean the spec is still fine in pve or pvp , but for sake it's boring & crap now
echo crescent
was never a top tier but felt good
forest kite
i still remember playing FMP & feral priest in wotlk , so much fun , so strong when mastered
was still nice in cata , but too broken with instaclone
echo crescent
dude every other class have instant cyclone
they cld just make cyclone with a cd
fixed
20-30 sec cd on cyclone
but instant
wld work really nice
did not i just explain why
how many second u spend to cast cyclone
forest kite
yeah but i loved the whole gameplay to hard cast clone > bleed someone , hard cast clone > swap and apply pressure like an afflock , when an endless chain of CC during wotlk in 2v2 with priest or 3v3 in FMP
forest kite
i don't like Feral since they shifted so much damage from dot to direct damage
forest kite
i know
echo crescent
which is not
forest kite
it's crap , feral was nich because it's was close to an afflock but melee
i don't see the point of the spec now
forest kite
ofc clone is godly
echo crescent
i don't hjave to shapeshift out
runic spruce
echo crescent
lets talk convoke
runic spruce
this last game
echo crescent
and w/o convoke
runic spruce
was funny
forest kite
who care of convoc it's crap
echo crescent
what is druid rn w/o covenant
forest kite
i swaped to push RBG
forest kite
i wanna kyrian back for god sake
my mmr is too high in every bracket i can't even get some fun killing trash player with it in arena
xD
runic spruce
i was in skirmish
forest kite
in skirmish ppl are idiot , i can Q 50 skirmish and win 1v2 with convoc to be honest
runic spruce
y
forest kite
but , i don't have killed anything in arena except on extrem luck or BIG BIG mistake from them
like the usual one , Melee cleave leaving their healer alone behind
echo crescent
here let me tell you
druid is kinda so bad that they have to rely on covenant
and convoke
what other classes do?
forest kite
nah convoke is trash
echo crescent
đ€
forest kite
feral or boomy are both better without it
it's just a kill noob button ? feral is fine , middle of the pack , work at very high rating in FMP
boomy working well with a lot of comp ( as kyrian ) fire mage is better in my opinion for doing the same thing than boomy
Rdrood is in bad spot
but at least we have two good spec
echo crescent
Oh well Druid be average
N to contact m compete they have to put 5x more effort
To be on same ranks or dps or in PvE
It was not like this
I enjoyed Druid way more in classic BC wrath cata
Mop was fine too
forest kite
yeah b ut it's just another melee ur right
echo crescent
Those are die hard Druid players
forest kite
and actually firemage / war / ww carry feral because they fit with these 3 spec
echo crescent
N do 5x more that other class who are about same ranks
forest kite
and boomy is , in my opinion a little worst version of firemage , but still fine
still , i'm a WW/Pal , i prefer to take a fire mage , i'm a rogue+healer i prefer a fire mage , i'm a war+healer , i prefer a firemage , i'm ele/priest i prefer a fire mage etc etc đ
echo crescent
Yes there is not really a reason to play Druid
Fire mage better
Rouge better
Heals pally or priest or r Sussman better
forest kite
yeah but you know , they will tune thing just wait
echo crescent
Druid been meme fire long
forest kite
imagine they nerf sp , they nerf firemage and let boomy untouched , boomy are the new god
echo crescent
Reason I quit the game almost every expansion after cata
Other tanks are better
What is Druid better at? Gathering? Running?
PvP or pve
forest kite
Best bot class
forest kite
Rdrood/boomy both S tier for M+ that it
Guardian/boomy S tier for RBG
but dude , their is always some class better than another
echo crescent
But man we are not even close to other classes
echo crescent
I don't want top tier but give me back my stuff
forest kite
boomy is close to god tier caster
echo crescent
Yeah I'ma play that
forest kite
just firemage doing the same stuff and are right now overtuned
forest kite
feral/boomy are in a very good spot in pve right now also
primal bane
how bad is it that i pvp with no leg
echo crescent
He was feral?
forest kite
@vestal citrus btw , " LSD2 " much better with a pal xD
echo crescent
Btw why Druid always so under tuned
primal bane
druid is fine
primal bane
i do have feral pvp questions tho
forest kite
Bfa , boomy was god tier
forest kite
BC / wotlk ( after DK nerf ) Rdrood was god tier
Cata , Feral & Rdrood was god tier
Feral legion , god tier
primal bane
everytime i play feral i just do like rake, 5 combo spam, rip, now im 20% hp
am i supposed to use a huge defensive as soon as i start doing dps?
forest kite
Spriest Feral... Decent or naw?
echo crescent
Good
primal bane
anything with spriest is good wtf
forest kite
We're at like 1600 right now, floated back and forth between 1700 and 1600 today. I've been playing Resto with the Spriest friend.
A lot of it comes down to improving our communication and some other light adjustments
But I'm just considering other options besides Resto
echo crescent
Play cat affinity
forest kite
Yeah we really need to work on coordinating cc better
primal bane
holy pal best
forest kite
Obviously most other healers would be better haha
primal bane
not most
resto is ok
but holy pal
is so fucking annoiying
prot pal too
instant heals
infinite death immunity cooldowns
devout frost
as glyph said earlier spriest feral pretty rough for 2s @forest kite
and double dps 2s is a lot more unforgiving than dpshealer
forest kite
Yeah I think we just need to dial in our kill conditions and sync up gameplay a bit better
We also just did like 40 matches straight so we were both draggin a little at the end.
Arms warrior and WW were the most difficult ones.
Seemed like he could never get a cast off against either
devout frost
WW is quite overtuned right now
so dont think arms/ww is easy matchup for anyone :p
echo crescent
Oh even at 2400 Druid gets one sorted with fists of furry
That is ww
N 24 sec
Cd
primal bane
on what slot you put dreambinder
echo crescent
Chest
echo crescent
Feral= A housecat playing with a mouse instead of a wild beast hunting
the owl is a better hunter
tiny oar
U guys r such fucking goobers lol
clear pulsar
Any rbgers in chat
@vestal citrus put my name out there for some horde rbg group to pick me up
primal bane
oh neat
ill hold off for boat
its not very flexible but thats the price to pay for chad damage
tiny oar
Any rbgers in chat
We'll make our own rbg group with 5 ferals 
ionic temple
Iâm 1.7 rbg feral havenât played an rbg since before Christmas tho
primal bane
yeah but idk how u guys can afford multiple legendaries
it just stacks up really fast
no i mean gold
the base item
costs a ton
i am but to sustain playing multiple classes, pvp, pve, alts etc
id have to be a grind bot
and i wouldnt mind if my shit wouldnt be outdated in 8.1
so i gotta start all over
heavy harbor
Any higher CR RDruids have advice on facing double sham in 2s? Partner is Arms
devout frost
Any higher CR RDruids have advice on facing double sham in 2s? Partner is Arms
wait for blizz to bugfix ench
i dont see it anywhere
ah
primal bane
what are the best 1v1ers in the game besides rogue
thick minnow
man playing pally vs resto
is insane
i dont cast on pally. and if i have to, i have aura mastery and 30% reduction
tiny oar
primal bane
cant tell if thats good or bad pally is broken atm
like all 3 of his specs are in some form annoiying in pvp
naive ocean
How is boomie to do dps do I just always pool to 100 ap and wait for a go
oblique wharf
Holy fook is it hard to find a competent healer in this meta
forest kite
is it easy to play agaisn't dh dps
it seems broken to me
in pvp
but im new in pvp
Stun him, kill him.
Care each 2 min about the hunt that it
ok ok
cause what ever happens
i win every 2s with my mate
but when a dh pop
i loose
But a dh without trinket with any cc on the healer die in a single stun
As boomy if u're kyrian for exemple with a pal, you force trinket on the opening with root beam, hoj on dh and burst, repeat one min later its probably over already xD
im NF
but thanks for all the tips
appreciate man
Really not enjoying convoke
placid mirage
Using it or against it
teal root
what are boomkin rbg talents these days? sotf and twin moons?
clear pulsar
Are you eu ?
Im na sadface
heady vessel
@teal root Not a big rbg player, but it kinda depends a bit, if thereâs gonna be big fights, then iâd probably go stellar drift instead og TM, and iâd probably stick to incarn
But, for example, if you got a role in your team to be The first guy to help a basedefender when thereâs inc, TM probably better
clear pulsar
Never press starfall
Dont play stellar drift
No point
Starsurge farms
Starfall is pad damage
heady vessel
I mean depends a bit on The comp right, if you got a dotcleave comp (dunno if thatâs good anymore) then The starfall dmg is kinda nice
clear pulsar
No bro
You still need kill pressure
Boomie has the best on demand burst potential outside of fire combustion
Out of any caster
With triple surge
5 if you have dreambinder
It's absolutely nasterino
heady vessel
True
heady vessel
Idk, maybe itâs just too long since iâve played any rbgs, but back in legion i did insane with drift and weaving in starsurges
clear pulsar
There was this season where starfall did hella damage
Then they gutted it
In Legion
But regardless
shadow dagger
i feel like feral is hardmode in arenas
feel like im doing so much offhealing and cc
clear pulsar
It's not. Feral's pretty good.
shadow dagger
and ww/warr/ret etc just blow so much more dmg
pveing
most ways i get a kill is having to set up a cc chain with convoke
clear pulsar
Idk ww is the only spec that consistently outdamages me
heady vessel
Feral in arenas feels very good if you know what youâre doing, cuz thereâs so much to do as feral
clear pulsar
Only if it's arms hpal and they use good bops but usually arms rsham is ok
I'm 2.1
Not very good but
Idk it feels fine
shadow dagger
so what do you do against like warr/rsham, warr/rdruid, warr/disc
heady vessel
For example, if you compare feral to boomie in pvp, i feel like i have to do so much more when playing feral
clear pulsar
Berserk with symmetry is a nasty cd
shadow dagger
you play with pod or niya?
clear pulsar
You maim tf ff berserk bite bite bite
clear pulsar
Was playing pod cuz double endurance
Well in the berserk window you kinda do with symmetry
Sometimes u get unlucky but
vast vapor
that sound pretty fun
shadow dagger
i just struggle keeping the warriors off me
vast vapor
maybe my next lege is for feral lul
ionic temple
Feral in arenas feels very good if you know what youâre doing, cuz thereâs so mu...
So true, finally gettin my rating back to positive win loss after learning how to play it properly in each situation
clear pulsar
But yeah just abuse thorns vs melee, you can kite warriors and rets pretty well if they're on you and you dont have stuns, and then when they get tired and charge your healer you thorns and spam root
ionic temple
Always vs melee
shadow dagger
id been using strength of the wild
clear pulsar
Go bear on cs bladestorm, etc
shadow dagger
cause the offhealing helps so much on my priest
but doesnt do shit when im the target
clear pulsar
Or you can just wild charge away
If warr misses spear
It's really all on kiting and cross cc.
vast vapor
how do you usually open as feral? do you just get the bleeds running
clear pulsar
If warrior is hellbent on killing you, bait him around pillars to stun out of los from healer
If warr has no trinket and you stun out of healer los it's a free convoke
vast vapor
are bleeds even necessary atm
clear pulsar
@vast vapor kinda rake rip ff bite
heady vessel
Iâve actually been playing a lot of boomie/surv in 2s, and itâs been so much fun, cuz itâs not an amazing comp, so we gotta work super hard for our wins
clear pulsar
Or just rake ff bite bearform if it's like rogue mage
shadow dagger
i hate rogue mage so much
heady vessel
Ye, boomie/surv is like budget version rogue/mage
clear pulsar
I have idk 50 50 win ratio vs rogue mage. I like facing it, better than livelord shit like spriest or afflock or ret
vast vapor
I got over 2300 as boomie with sp but then we only got rogue mage forever lul
clear pulsar
Quick games and all
ionic temple
i hate rogue mage so much
Rogue mage seems easy with healer IMO but Iâm low asf rating
heady vessel
Facing spriest/affli was so horrible
ionic temple
Well then xD thatâs high asf
shadow dagger
ill try using thorns more against warriors i guess
heady vessel
The sp was healing ad much as me during hotw
shadow dagger
i have a feeling at 2k the warriors are smart enough to just swap targets when i use thorns
until it falls off
heady vessel
Nah, zug zug
clear pulsar
ill try using thorns more against warriors i guess
I usually default to bite strength thorns, I'm sure leader of the pack is still good but the healing feels super meaningless sometimes, and too many games where I crit no bites all game makes me not want to bother with 5% crit.
clear pulsar
i have a feeling at 2k the warriors are smart enough to just swap targets when i...
The idea is that you can kite the warrior all day if you must, so you use charge when he gets tired of hitting you
Or chasing you
Unless the warrior is venthyr with death sentence
Then that's rough
heady vessel
Warriors are made to be kited đ
shadow dagger
im probably boxing with them too much then
but i play feral/disc
so if im kiting all match
then no one is doing any dmg
clear pulsar
Kite away from their healer behind pillars etc
vague mural
for the opener w the feral 2 CP lego after you stun rip frenzy, do you bite then do i jst bite 2 more times at 4 cps?
or build
shadow dagger
what do i do when the warr just zugs on my priest then
clear pulsar
You just have to recognize or create opportunities to convoke more creatively
shadow dagger
you hit 2.1 with a priest?
shadow dagger
so basically play kite/safemode when convoke is on cd
clear pulsar
Would have been like 70% win rate
shadow dagger
and then when it's off cd go
clear pulsar
But then we faced 6 rank 1s in 5 games
Kinda, you still have to force cds
Like trinkets at least
white sun
what is best soulbinds and conduits for boomie nf in arenas?
tight ferry
@white sun Same as regular, dont switch
white sun
okay ty.
surreal loom
Anyone know good 3's comps to play without comms? Something with simple cc setups I assume? Maybe like FMPal or Feral Shadow Pal? Mist hunters I play with dont seem to know jungle setups well
languid knot
What 2nd endurance conduit are people taking for feral?
edgy shale
frenzied regen 1 and ursine vigor prob. altho maybe innate resolve and frenzied regen one are good together
languid knot
Ye I go honed instinct just unsure on the increase bear health or innate
last basin
is there any boomie pvp guide up to date/
clear pulsar
Innate >
vague mural
what is an ideal opener for feral w fearful symmetry?
or i guess burst if you're bursting opener i mean
limpid kraken
im not sure myself, im struggling between getting all my bleeds up or just going for multiple bites with zerk + trinket + tf on opener
im sure its prob situational
primal bane
guys do your LFG pugs stay after you lose a game?
fiery arch
has anyone tried to socket a 220 item via the Spatial Realignment Apparatus â and then upgrade the item to 226? will upgrading remove the socket?
that is to say â am i safe to socket a 220pc or should i hit 2100 first, upgrade, then socket?
lusty locust
Any Pro resto druid out there ? hello
Swiftmend legendary look awesome but
I was wondering, isn't Elder Druid a very strong defensive option rn ?
clear pulsar
The socket stays by all account
clear pulsar
I was wondering, isn't Elder Druid a very strong defensive option rn ?
You shouldnt need it, and natural orders will sounds like a stronger self defensive if you really must make one. Verdant is very good tho. Oath has an issue where it'll eventually just proc when you're shifting a root/slow/poly, and then be on internal cd when you need it.
lusty locust
oh that's a good point
clear pulsar
im not sure myself, im struggling between getting all my bleeds up or just going...
Rake (maybe Rip here but does very little dmg anyway) TF FF Zerk Bite Bite Bite
lusty locust
Thanks for your answer.
clear pulsar
I know oath is kinda popular between some people in here
But it's more so for dmg with feral aff
Afaik
clear pulsar
Ultimately u can just make many different legos
And test them out as u want
Feral aff is rly good. In 3s its more risky, it's all about you getting comfortable with when you can go aggressive and when you cant.
I think getting used to it and practicing it is good and will help you climb
Especially in 2s
lusty locust
ok ok
I'm returning player
was 2.1k+ rdruid back in Cataclysm
but like didn't touched rdruid since years
inv pvp
game feels so bursty rn it scares me to enter arena tbh
tight ferry
theres a lesson to be learned here
seven balance is still not enough offhealing to replace a healer
glad nexus
Would you ever craft the 2CP legendary for feral on hands? I got 226 versa haste head w/ socket and missing out on that feels bad for the moment.
patent idol
guys which addon is that i cant seem to find it in my addons list
puts all the bleeds on top of my target but they are very small
i wanna make them bigger
lusty locust
it's baseline in wow UI
patent idol
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would you recommend something more useful
i need it to be bigger and to show the duration
lusty locust
I'm using a very soft profile of Plater
look pretty much like Blizzard baseline Nameplate, but with modding and scripting in addition
proud stump
What's the best weapon enchant for Balance PvP?
patent idol
i see
tight ferry
any boomkin for sevenboom rbg? alliance
clear pulsar
@proud stump the 5% int proc
proud stump
Thanks! ^_^
clear pulsar
10% dmg on target is better st dam but it may proc on anything you have a dot on and kinda be wasted
If you're starsurging one dude and it procs on someone else or worse, a pet or something
From your dots
Or lunar strike
proud stump
Oh that makes sense. I saw places saying either or but it would be lame if it proc'd on pets. >.<
clear pulsar
plater is probably the addon you are looking for but have fun configuring it
It's kinda overwhelming lol
lusty locust
yes definetly the worst thing to configure properly
last basin
dreamweaver or niya for nf balance?
long pumice
Niya. Even if you got your convoke kicked you still have 400 mastery for 30 secs, which is a huge burst window if combined with incarn
last basin
thanx
clear pulsar
Both are fine, Dreamweaver's pod is kinda broken cuz healers can keep it up but sometimes it bugs out!?
You also get 1 potency + 1 endurance + a choice between 2nd of either
The 90% slow after your cc ends is also kinda lit, especially for root beam
Niya is definitely more damage, Grove Invigoration is basically a better version of Conflux
long pumice
Both are fine, Dreamweaver's pod is kinda broken cuz healers can keep it up but ...
It's not how the pod works - no matter if healer tops it. If it receives 15k damage you are dead even if the pod is topped off. But healer can BOP or PS it to prevent your death.
clear pulsar
Healers can keep it up
With externals, rapture, bop, sac, etc
It doesn't just die from taking 15k damage at all
long pumice
If you'll look at ability description you'll see, If a pod takes 17890 damage you will die. Even if your healer tops the pod via heals. However redirect damage, shields. any kind of immunity or damage prevention helps alot to revive you.
clear pulsar
Have you actually tested it or are you just arguing based on the tooltip's wording?
Cuz in my testing, my pod has taken well over 20k damage and still brought me back up
Cuz my healer healed it
long pumice
We did specifically in a skirmish with a priest and a paladin. Simple heal does not keep you alive.
patent idol
how much haste should i have for pvp as feral
stray sigil
as little as possible
long pumice
For Feral pvp you max versatility than mastery - no specific requirements for haste and crit and use 2 trinket pvp setbonus
stray sigil
haste not our desired stat
long pumice
Something like 800+ vers, 300+ mastery, 150 -200 haste and crit works fine
clear pulsar
@stray sigil were you in here when we were talking about jb getting 2.1?
clear pulsar
Poor dude just wanted them 226 gains, he was getting carried so hard lol
Played with a 220+ ww 2.4k cr who tanked more 200 rating over the 3h they were queueing to get from 2 to 2.1
stray sigil
hes a healer?
clear pulsar
Wut
stray sigil
how tf it takes hours to get 2.1 playing with 220 ww
bro i woulda done it in like 30mins
clear pulsar
It was pretty fun to watch bro
stray sigil
that ww musvt been cooked
clear pulsar
No you wouldnt have lol
stray sigil
or something is going on
stray sigil
couldnt carry 1 more ape
i gave up on keys already
i just do pvp vault and call it a day
clear pulsar
Need me some rbgs for vault or smth
stray sigil
oh i coulda invited u last night to some rbgs prob
somehow won most of games playing with some sus individuals
playing with a feral and surv hunter
solemn lichen
what leggo should you run as balance in rbg's? on ladder its a good mix between boat, circle and oneth
echo crescent
what u think about moonfire being able to cast in any form
tiny oar
Only torghast
Same
tight ferry
did a 7 boomkin. won three out of five. We did poorly last probably because we had three discs
Cuz it'd take another half hour to find another healer
They also pretty out geared us
it was fun though
devout frost
do i level my monk @clear pulsar
clear pulsar
Nah ww gonna get nerfed
wintry lake
I have 600 games allready in 2v2 with boomkin but cant get past 1400, ans Tipps? Btw bist or dreambinder
Boat *
devout frost
I have 600 games allready in 2v2 with boomkin but cant get past 1400, ans Tipps?...
what are you playing with
surreal heron
gross
tight ferry
@lime light r u in the wrong server bud
lime light
wintry lake
@devout frost I switch with rndms bc rl friends are to bad
devout frost
rather tianton here than the 3 ppl permanegging
tight ferry
idk
lime light
OwO
tight ferry
u'll find lots of virgins there
obtuse ice
shut ur mouth weeb kit
obtuse ice
ye ok
lime light
obtuse ice
miaou
kindred pivot
Is it worth waiting for the world boss to come up to get the legendary for rest
I liked it more when they dropped from random things
Then we didnt have thorgast either
rotund shore
man... feels so hard to cast a good convoke at 1900~
i was wondering if I should just CA into some ss for some non-rng burst
exotic wolf
master @vestal citrus
what comp do you play in 3s? have you played with a ww yet?
devout frost
Is it worth waiting for the world boss to come up to get the legendary for rest
its 3 more weeks for the world boss to be up so
kindred pivot
i thought it was one after this wednesday
devout frost
rotation is maldraxxus > ardenweald > bastion > revendreth
vivid escarp
How viable is LSD2 but with a hpal right now? We are currently stuck in 2,1k mmr 2k cr, anyone with more experience could help me out? I am kinda lost what the gameplan is with clone fking up dots with affli
kindred pivot
rotation is maldraxxus > ardenweald > bastion > revendreth
Just looked it up, icy veins says Oranomonos; will spawn the 12 january
sinful atlas
Just get the Anima Conductor on lvl 2 - 35 Grateful Offerings for a (random) Legendary you havent acquired yet
brave venture
anyone know some good feral pvp streamers?
vast jacinth
tiny oar
Fuji stream when ??
tardy hare
tiny oar
elder pilot
Fuck. pvp as resto druid now is not fun. I'm getting killed within 2 sec and my Hots can't do shit.
devout frost
its a fast meta
clear pulsar
Resto is all about avoiding damage
And preparing for burst
You aren't a reactionary healer like hpal
Be proactive homie
PROACTIVE
clear pulsar
anyone know some good feral pvp streamers?
There are like 12 streamers in the pins
brave shuttle
How much do you expect it to slow down (ignoring nerfs) when ppl have 20 ilvl more gear (Stam+versa). So sitting at like 215-220ilvl vs 195-205 today?
clear pulsar
It won't slow down cuz of gear
That's a silly notion
More stam but also way more primary stat and secondaries too
Like
Damage scales harder than survivability
Always has
tulip falcon
no idea why it's such a widespread notion that gear will fix the speed of gameplay atm
clear pulsar
That's why every major patch you see blizz bandaid in some stamina % buffs in the borrowed power systems
clear pulsar
Game's pretty damp rn
I watched a brazilian rank 1 play shadowplay v shadowplay
20 min game
Yeah
vivid escarp
Is a streamer in the pins playing lsd2 at the moment?
tulip falcon
its not even a cr thing it just depends on comps
shit like this happens https://clips.twitch.tv/EnticingInquisitiveHerbsRaccAttack
clear pulsar
That's the thing tho right, game was obviously slower, the trinket set bonus was less damage, it's all real teams playing vs real teams and they know how to stay alive
In the beta I mean
It still can be
Healers heal way too much
fast vale
Mage / boom / rsham - any streamers playing this comp?
tulip falcon
I don't think a single ability should 100-0 someone through CDs regardless
even in the destro mess last season it still didn't 100-0 people
fast vale
Who sorry?
clear pulsar
I don't think a single ability should 100-0 someone through CDs regardless
It's not 1 spell tho, it's just a lot hitting at the same time
clear pulsar
Who sorry?
Boomies don't stream a whole lot, corkiri probably should have some mage boomie games on stream tho
I don't think ceralium or brain stream, do they?
Cuz prev definitely doesn't
elder pilot
shit like this happens https://clips.twitch.tv/EnticingInquisitiveHerbsRaccAttac...
That shit is just fucking sad.
clear pulsar
I only ever see supatease play ele boomie
It's a very telegraphed 1 shot to be fair
And regardless
It's way less sad than 10 mins minimum games at rat rating in BFA
elder pilot
There is no excuse for 1 or even 2 shot people in a RPG
clear pulsar
clear pulsar
Lock kick
tardy hare
lock kick was on cd
its a 23141234 sec cast
just because you don't know how it works doesnt mean its broken
its just like DH in bfa with full mastery
elder pilot
Still, it's still not a good enough excuse for implementing that kind of unbalance in a game
when patch notes reduce abilities damage with 50%, you know shit is bad
clear pulsar
It's a buff that was sitting on the mage for like 8 seconds already too
On top of combustion and a 3s hard cast
You give up meteor for it
solid sapphire
hi, i have a question, i saw on some streams enemies nameplate replaced by "1" "2" "3". Is there an addon that do that, or is it some scripts? (and if anyone know where to find those)
Ok, i use plater, but i dont know how to configure it totally
Ok thanks
clear pulsar
I kinda want to use plater but the settings page is way too large and overwhelming for my head
And kui works well enough
Oxygen streaming with facecam???
LMAO
Idk
Wanna share your profile?
Actually it looks like ass
It's just that
Flyplatebuffs doesn't seem to be maintained anymore
And I don't like kui's buff tracking
Cuz for some reason it can't show debuffs on allies
Or buffs on enemies