pvp

[loud wedge]

But if you can freely get 90+ AP... They done goofed

[clear pulsar]

I mean your dots will eventually get you to full AP

The question is whether you can freecast to get there way more often or not

[forest kite]

Boat is also used with convoc in pvp mostly, kyrian should use timeworn 100%

[clear pulsar]

GOOD LUCK IN BOX DAY FRIENDS IT IS SOON

[cursive viper]

Any suggestion on what horde race is BiS for balance pvp?

[golden barn]

Troll

Basically have a self use pi every three minutes it’s nice

[cursive viper]

Ok cool

[inland gulch]

Hello, is there anyone with the similar issue? Sometimes I change from caster to cat and my action bar does not change. I am really desperate, as it happen at least once per arena.

[clear pulsar]

@cursive viper tauren

[cursive viper]

Why’s that?

[clear pulsar]

Warstomp into cyclone

Guaranteed setup

[tiny oar]

Stomp clone kill

[tardy hare]

Do you use any addons for your bars? Might be the problem

[cursive viper]

Also is night fae a good covenant or is it important to go kyrian?

[inland gulch]

No, I ditched all the addons because of this.

[tardy hare]

Hmmm

No clue then :/

[inland gulch]

Well to say it's in every arena is a little bit of exaggerating, but even if it's one in five... It usually comes in the most stressful situations...

[hollow jackal]

when u 2v2 as feral/disc and play against another dd+healer comb -> who's generally ur kill target? enemies dd or healer?

[near fox]

depends

[hushed bluff]

Designated driver?

[loud wedge]

Ur target is the one with least cooldowns available, generally speaking

[umbral oar]

i usually focus the dps, but against warrior idk how to win, i only win against bad warrior that suicide to my thorns

[loud wedge]

Warr and ww are a tough nut to crack tbh.. Maybe hope for lucky quad bite critt in healer cc

[thick minnow]

really wish theyd hotfix master shapeshifter

annoying. been bugged for months

[languid knot]

Is it easier to get a high rating in 2v2 or 3v3?

[thick minnow]

if you can find people that know when to use defensives, 3v3 feels easier. more rating inflation

[onyx shale]

what legendary are people using for balance in arena?

[chrome panther]

dreambinder. boat works fine too if ur a pve nancy

[upper dragon]

Anyone here good with macros?

[steady lily]

So you can double alarcity insignias? It lets u equip the same trinkets from honor and conquest do u actually benefit or do procs override each other?

[upper dragon]

I'm trying to make a macro that casts entangling roots UNLESS i have bash talented then it'll use bash instead. So the 2 abilities in one keybind. If I have bash talented, yes, roots won't work at all but that's okay when i have bash talented i want bash instead

[chrome panther]

check spell IDs.

Or just test yourself if you already have conq version

[steady lily]

They are listed separately on blood mallet i just found it odd it lets you equip both

[upper dragon]

Anyone here good with macros? Trying to make a macro that will use entangling roots UNLESS Bash is talented. Then it will use bash instead. Seems pretty simple.

[hasty dome]

Skill-capped, icy veins, and wowhead all have the macro you’re looking for

[devout frost]

takes 2 seconds to google and i cba to do it for u

[upper dragon]

I've tried googling it. All the ones I find are outdated and no longer work. Hence why I'm asking here.

[devout frost]

both the ones on IV and wowhead are up to date and working

so google better

[upper dragon]

None of them have the macro I'm looking for, lmao. Are you having a rough day?

[primal bane]

can i make it so omnibar/gladius only appear when playing aarena?

[upper dragon]

Yes, you can Cope. In settings.

[devout frost]

i literally know they do

[primal bane]

where

[upper dragon]

They do not. Once upon a time when they were on the same talent row, but since they no longer share a talent row it is not what I want.

[devout frost]

damn that was really hard to find

[upper dragon]

That's mass entanglement... Not entangling roots. You really are having a rough day with the stick in the booty

Like I said, it does not work. Have already tried.

[devout frost]

it still applies the same way

sorry u have to use some brain power on ur own

just add the talent conditional

to any other spell

[upper dragon]

No, it has to be written completely different. Which is why I'm asking here as to how

Sorry you use no lube.

But to each their own

[hasty dome]

Seems like you’re over complicating the situation at this point

[upper dragon]

That is a solid opinion. I'll keep it in mind 😄

I think someone hasn't had their morning rituals. Is this really the vibe in the druid discord tho? Can't be lmao

Try to have a better morning there, ask the FAQ instead. Thanks for the time 😄

[hasty dome]

This is tame compared to other channels/discords for response to something that has 99% chance to be in pins and or resources

[upper dragon]

Uh oh here he goes again

[devout frost]

its 5 pm

[upper dragon]

Go ahead and replace morning with evening then. you got this 😄

Lets see the thought in this next one...

eats popcorn

[chrome panther]

are you just here to incite

pretty cringe bro

[upper dragon]

Are you joking? I asked a valid question and am responding to negativity

Scroll up.

Lets see how he tries to spin it this time

[chrome panther]

you asked a question that can be solved with 2 minutes of google.

[devout frost]

couldnt write their own macro and then got pissy cause others wouldnt do it for them :((

[upper dragon]

Your talent swap macro is irrelevant to my question.

Nah, nobody except you got pissy lmao.

[chrome panther]

its the equivalent of people coming in here and asking whats the best spec for pvp

[devout frost]

world doesnt revolve around me waa waa :((

[upper dragon]

Whatever twist helps your argument

[hasty dome]

The real question they should be asking is why that particular macro doesn’t exist

[upper dragon]

Now I'm starting to see those mental instabilities and depressions coming out... haha

Now we're getting somewhere ask the FAQ

I didn't intend this to be a therapy session, but if you insist. You're crying out for help.

[chrome panther]

dude

stop typing

[upper dragon]

What's REALLY making you mad this morning...?

shut up Varugh

Nobody was speaking to you. Stop white knighting

[devout frost]

except it does

[upper dragon]

Here it comes!

[chrome panther]

lol

[upper dragon]

Lmao, no it doesn't.

this can't be it. All that pent up anger and depression for this? Cmon FAQ

whatever... Nice try tho. Peace bro

[devout frost]

bigger question is why u suddenly dont want to cast roots just because u have bash

instead of just making it conditional

[hasty dome]

That’s what I meant FAQ

[chrome panther]

so cringe

sorry we wont write the macro for you

[hasty dome]

Should have it’s own macro for mouseover, shift modifiers, however you’re quick targeting

[weary spruce]

Which do I pick for night fae boomkin RBGs - got 3 different from vault:

option 1 waist: +61 vers, +39 mastery, ilvl 216
option 2 waist: +34 haste, + 68 vers, +44 avoidance ilvl 220
option 3 hands: +72 vers, +30 crit strike ilvl 220

[devout frost]

the one thats the biggest upgrade

we dont know what ur currently wearing

and u cant upgrade pve pieces with honor

[hasty dome]

Haste verse

[weary spruce]

is avoidance not good?

oh nvm thats the one you said lol

[devout frost]

to little to matter

[weary spruce]

do you think the vers/haste waist as well?

[devout frost]

i just said what i thought

[patent idol]

can you guys

recommend a good feral pvp arena youtuber?

cuz i cant really tell who's good and who's not

[devout frost]

pins

[patent idol]

i know sodapoppin but he doesnt do so much yt clips nowadays

ah so snupy

i already had him on my watchlist

o k thx

[cursive viper]

Night fae viable for arenas?

[devout frost]

good for noobstomping

not great versus anyone that can think

[hasty dome]

Boomkins doing much in 2s? Mostly see them in 3s and rbg’s

[cursive viper]

Is kyrian that much better? I plan on doing both PVE and pvp on my Druid

[devout frost]

kyrian and necro better for resto and boomie

kyrian better for feral

NF makes u superpredictable

[clear pulsar]

NF is totally fine for feral and boomie, but it's likely to get nerfed whenever nerfs come again

I just totally hate how garbanzo beans everything else is/feels in pve

For both feral and resto

[daring sparrow]

Which chest enchant do you recommend for Druid Resto in 2v2?

[stone nest]

I’m considering mana because games are getting longer.

[daring sparrow]

I don't find myself ooming a lot, and there are a lot of double dps comp, this is why i'm asking

I don't know if the mana is worth

[patent idol]

ì see some of these streamers are running with bloodtalons

[stone nest]

30 stats would be the better option then

[patent idol]

why not feral frenzy

isnt it much better

[hoary ledge]

Yooo so my vault was absolutely cheeks, crit vers ring and medallion / brooch, should I just take the medallion? Crit vers ring will just be replaced and fuck crit lmao

[dreamy merlin]

Any advice on beating double sub in 2's as resto arms?

[inland marsh]

Swiftmend leggy clear best right?

[dusk cloak]

i play a lot of 2s with a rogue as boomy, do you recommend i switch to convoke ? I am kyrian atm but i feel like i should be convoke in 2s. I was expecting it to get nerfed but nothing has changed yet

[clear pulsar]

I think Convoke can make up for a lack of knowing what to do

But Kyrian should be better

[devout frost]

yeah pretty much

[clear pulsar]

Especially double dps 2s cuz phial >>> soulshape

[devout frost]

convoke is a big crutch

[placid mirage]

I can confirm I don't know what to do and convoke only works so long

[devout frost]

and if it gets nerfed that crutch is useless

[placid mirage]

It would be cruel to take the crutches away from a disabled boomer

[clear pulsar]

Right, Convoke makes up for a lack of knowing what to do until people stop being complete bonobos in enemy team. Then you can still make it work but only if you know what to do.

[placid mirage]

We just had my ret partner pretend to be afk in spawn then I flank convoke. Got a couple wins

[devout frost]

its the same reason u just tell ppl to learn to play arena with one person first

instead of asking for best comp all the time

[clear pulsar]

That's some tremendous game planning @placid mirage

[devout frost]

easier to learn to play one comp properly

[clear pulsar]

It looks like you knew what to do

[placid mirage]

Lmao a couple of other times we got trashed tho

Big shoutout to whoever said incap roar the rogue opener in the sub/fire matchup, I haven't lost one since

[dusk cloak]

cheers yea, I like kyrian but feel like im missing out on the random one shots with convoke haha

[clear pulsar]

Embrace of Paku has pretty shit uptime doesn't it? @devout frost

I'm prob just gonna take the movespeed blessing

[devout frost]

i always do

its the only thing that actually matters

the dps from racials are so low anyway

utility is king

[placid mirage]

Idk tbh I'm hovering in 1700s and convoke can't carry me to 1800 only my brain can, I imagine it's the same with kyrian

[lime light]

Play crit kids

[devout frost]

its 1ppm

if u want exact number

[placid mirage]

Also I would say like 80% or more of teams are fully ready for your convoke so if you start blasting with kyrian starsurges they might not expect that as.much

[dusk cloak]

im stuck at 1500 only at 186ilvl as boomy rogue, usualy we are 1800/1900

yea true

[placid mirage]

Most of the time I only convoke to get cooldowns so we can try to get a 2nd go

[clear pulsar]

Kyrian's just you know, always there, reliable damage increase.
Convoke on one hand plays the game for you, but on the other hand it starts to be too much of a center piece of your game tbh, where you are only trying to force trinkets without using it for 5 mins straight, then you may or may not win the game.

[dusk cloak]

i still dont understand the kyrian ability i have been using it on myself , do you think its better to use on my rogue so we both get a buff? the tooltip is confusing

[clear pulsar]

Use it on yourself always

In pvp anyway

[dusk cloak]

yea thought so

[clear pulsar]

Bonding with someone else only does anything if both of you burst at the same time for similar amounts of damage

[placid mirage]

I need to record my games I play so bad vs melee

[dusk cloak]

yea i was thinking that it would be good with rogue? 1min bursts

[harsh jasper]

niya or dream soulbind for PVP, 2 potency seems nice but that 16 stack from niya wooooo

[placid mirage]

Niya for that fat mastery

[clear pulsar]

Issue with that is you probably shouldn't be popping everything on opener along with your rogue, since sub opener alone should force panic trinkets and cds

[harsh jasper]

yeaaaaaa

[clear pulsar]

@harsh jasper mastery from Niya is basically Conflux but better

Dreamweaver would rly only be better for double endurance + 1 potency

If you are running double potency on dreamweaver then just go Niya

[harsh jasper]

got it

[dusk cloak]

thanks for the help

[placid mirage]

Do you guys think the frenzy regen is the take for niya this week

Below 40%

[clear pulsar]

100%

It's tremendous bro

[dusk cloak]

been playing with the hotw legendary too and its been helping us last a lot longer

[placid mirage]

I have a 184 I think

Can u buy a better one somewhere

[lime light]

what u wanna do with your life @clear pulsar

[clear pulsar]

Uh

I want to break free!?

[lime light]

no!

U WANNA ROCK

[devout frost]

drops from plaguefall

[placid mirage]

Shiet

[crude minnow]

my best vault choice was a gladiator's medallion. fuck me.

[clear pulsar]

You're lucky

I got adaptation and relentless both week 1

Last week I had emblem

Today I had emblem and relentless

[crude minnow]

gross. idk why blizz lets 2 items I have be shown...

[clear pulsar]

It's a bit ridiculous

But I got a wep from m+

Only 216 but biiiig gain

[crude minnow]

well grats for that lmao

[placid mirage]

Gonna do my raids and see if I can get bracer drop

So I don't have to take it from vault

I got offered 2 hats from pvp

[dusk cloak]

think its worth buying the conquest wep for boomy through the vendor or just buy gear , Ive got a 190ilvl wep and offhand. its so expensive for the weapon.Part of me things its not worth getting and just pray it comes in my vault

[placid mirage]

I bought the conquest offhand

But I also got some mh from vault

[dusk cloak]

i might do that tbh, lose a little vers but probably worth it

[manic arrow]

Guys, what are top-3 boomy comps in 3s?

[clear pulsar]

Boom x y
Boom y z
Boom b c

Are all pretty solid

[manic arrow]

😏

[devout frost]

why is Y good for both comps

can u elaborate

[clear pulsar]

Y's just very versatile

As you can see it has 3 directions it can go

[crude minnow]

prob is hpal or rsham lol

[clear pulsar]

Boom b c is a very well rounded comp tho

[devout frost]

ah so it's the old T-junction thinking

[clear pulsar]

[devout frost]

i see we have a city builder in our midst

[clear pulsar]

@manic arrow the best comp is the one you can play consistently with people you know/like/gel with

[low hull]

Do you go Dreamwearver for pvp balance?

[devout frost]

no

[low hull]

Even arena

[devout frost]

especially arena

[crude minnow]

telling people to go pod is punishable by jail time

[low hull]

Haha damn okay

Thanks

Just starte dpvping cause convoke is disugtinstg

[devout frost]

convoke is awful

[clear pulsar]

You're awful

[lime light]

yes

[devout frost]

against anyone with the ability to breath through their nose

[clear pulsar]

The r/nba discord server has no dunk emotes

[devout frost]

ok mom

[clear pulsar]

??????

[crude minnow]

good in rbgs. good below like 1600 arena. hard to setup past that

[devout frost]

should be like 1300 at this point

gets worse and worse at noobstomp ranks cause everyone expects it

[low hull]

I'm only pve but now i want 1800 for the juicy weaps

[clear pulsar]

It's soooooo fine

[low hull]

Currently 1644 rating omw to 1800 on convoke pulls

[clear pulsar]

Convoke is overrated and underrated at the same time

[low hull]

Only lost to boosters so far..

[clear pulsar]

It's insane

[devout frost]

deffo boosters :o)

[low hull]

as in

[devout frost]

i only lose to boosters too

[low hull]

2,1k rating and the other one is 1.6

so obvious booster .D

[lime light]

what the % speed

from the cloak enchant

[clear pulsar]

There's movespeed cloak enchant?

[keen igloo]

Anyone have advice on spending conquest for feral? I've saved up enough for 2h weapon this week, but I just swapped from apex pred shoulder to eye of fearful symmetry, so I'll need to replace the shoulder. Should I buy weapon first or try buying armor pieces? Currently 190 ilvl and unranked so not huge upgrades.

[lime light]

yes

[clear pulsar]

I'm about to be soooo fast bro @lime light

[lime light]

stam and move speed

[sharp tulip]

how long does it take to get 4250 honor anyway?

[lime light]

nice troll @clear pulsar

chads

[keen igloo]

no time at all... honor comes easy

[sharp tulip]

are normal or epic BG's the better source of honor per hour?

[clear pulsar]

The great vault honor only counts rated games

[sharp tulip]

I know I will get trashed in rated

[clear pulsar]

Weapon is insane gains

If your weapon is still 184, you should buy conq weapon

[keen igloo]

weapon is 190 right now

[devout frost]

always wep first

[drifting junco]

Is weapon as good gains for balance as it is for feral?

[keen igloo]

ok, thanks dudes

[sharp tulip]

so I can't bank on getting any conquest, hence the need to get the other PvP kind of gear

[devout frost]

wep is best slot for all classes in the game

cause it has insanely high stat budget for the slot

[sharp tulip]

as an added bonus I will get anima

[drifting junco]

Okay, thanks!

[clear pulsar]

Oh yeah

[crude minnow]

We dont talk about anime here

[devout frost]

seeing how many ppl are playing NF appearently we do

[clear pulsar]

You're just trying to buy the honor gear @sharp tulip then winning bgs is best way. Epic bgs give more honor per time spent but not if you lose.

[devout frost]

only anime and my little pony talk allowed

[crude minnow]

nuzzles my convoke button

[sharp tulip]

but even if I lost BG's I would still get some kills and their corresponding honor

[heavy cairn]

What’s the best way to get honor random bg’s? Rated bgs?

[clear pulsar]

Yeah I'm saying if you can get a premade going to guarantee wins in regular bgs, then that's better honor than losing epic bgs @sharp tulip

[sharp tulip]

I still got ~300 honor in losing a BG or so

I know it's one big casino to me as a noob in PvP though

[lime light]

$report

[last owl]

This incident has been reported to the proper authorities. Thank you for your time.

[devout frost]

nothing to abuse with it

[chrome panther]

how do i abuse the pod

lul

target it u nancy

[devout frost]

by tanking ur rating

[chrome panther]

srry if i go necro my guild will kick me

[livid wasp]

well

[chrome panther]

blame blizzard

[livid wasp]

disc priest can shield it and you cant kill it necessarily

[chrome panther]

sounds like a getgud problem

[clear pulsar]

[livid wasp]

yeah a fucking git gud problem

ive used everything and he gets the gay ass pod

and priest spam shields it and I cant kill it

[lime light]

hydra 7 vs hydra 8 vs hydra 9

[lost siren]

Should I worry about mastery DR as feral? I'm at 47% now

[lime light]

no

[fading goblet]

Hydra 7 > 8>9

[thorny venture]

220 weapon, woo. Watch me get a 223 one offered to me next week cause that's how it works

[acoustic nebula]

Fast honor is to get into Wintergrasp or Ashran and do the quest then afk if your team going to lose

Easy 1000+ honor within 5 min

Rated BGs give you ridiculous honor and cap your conq super fast

If you don't want to wait for random bg queue, you can turn on mercenary mode in oribos and instant queue pop

You will have to be ally though

And in BGs, depending on map you can get defender bonus and that's extra honor, so you can do things like sit base and get hks or get in a vehicle and farm kills

[manic arrow]

Where is that quest?

[acoustic nebula]

When you zone into Ashran or Wintergrasp you can do it weekly iirc

It will give you one to get 50 shards in Ashran, or kill 10 npcs in WG

Gives 1000 honor

[manic arrow]

🤔

I've seen just 1k honor for winning it

What is nearly impossible

[acoustic nebula]

Yeah but you can get a free 1k on top of that

I'm constantly capped out anyway

To where I buy the offhand, upgrade to 184, DE for the shard

Costs 1500 to do that and you make like, 3-5k depending on server lol

[clear pulsar]

[surreal loom]

Niya with Conflux and Instincts this week or Dreamweaver with TFB+Instincts+Conflux?

How good is dat mastery?

[sharp tulip]

so I should run these quests and then think of the remaining honor costs

[heavy cairn]

@acoustic nebula I have 3 chars rn and feels like I’m behind on honor always on my 2 alts

[queen copper]

5k for a shard damn

1k on our server

[quaint coral]

Is balance pvp still Intellect>Verse>Haste>Master>Crit?

[stiff karma]

Hey how hard is it to learn feral for pvp?

[acoustic nebula]

Just do RBGs on alt, by the time you conq capp you will get honor cap

[acoustic nebula]

Kind of yes

[stray sigil]

#nowepgang

[quaint coral]

@acoustic nebula What would dictate otherwise? Covenant possibly?

[placid mirage]

I watch some high rated boomers who put mastery pretty highly

[quaint coral]

I'm staying convoke until i get my legendary then moving to kyrian

[acoustic nebula]

And legendary

[quaint coral]

Balance of all things, I believe is the best for me

[acoustic nebula]

And comp and what you are doing

So many factors

[quaint coral]

Not sure what legendary besides balance of all things are note worthy

[acoustic nebula]

Like you want some haste to get cyclone to 1.3 or so, but mastery is really good, especially if you are cheesing

If you are boat cheesing with Convoke you don't need haste nearly as much as verse/mastery

[quaint coral]

Okay, I feel higher mmr convoke isn't as useful because interrupt. so maybe mastery is better

[acoustic nebula]

Well bait the interrupts

Or if you wrath wrath SS, SS, SS, CA Convoke, let them kick, you already have full AP again, spam SS

[placid mirage]

Mastery is still good for your eclipse + x3 starsurges

[acoustic nebula]

If you can have 20+ verse and around 30 mastery you will do tremendous damage in that burst

[wind hatch]

mastyer in pvp is one of those things you dont really need but its nice to have.

[acoustic nebula]

Because double dip of CA

[placid mirage]

20+ vers and 30 mast is crazy gear tho

[quaint coral]

I see, force them to use silence/kick then use it. I have mostly haste for dots, but I find i lack single target dps

[placid mirage]

Maybe if u are like 2.1k++

[quaint coral]

14 percent haste, and 15 percent mastery

[acoustic nebula]

Rating =/= gear

Yeah that's low mastery

[placid mirage]

You have to get the rating to upgrade your gear tho

[acoustic nebula]

Yeah but you don't need gear to get rating

[placid mirage]

I do :(

[quaint coral]

I was 2400 many seasons, just curious how i set this all up. What would be a good starting mastery

[acoustic nebula]

Depends

I'd go with higher ilevel that has verse to start

[placid mirage]

I'm at like 17% vers 24% Mastery 200 ilvl

[daring sparrow]

Staff vs MH + OH, what’s your opinion?

[acoustic nebula]

Verse scales really well all the time for throughout especially because double trinket 40% bonus

[acoustic nebula]

Whatever comes out of vault

[quaint coral]

I just grabbed a 213 haste piece too...

lol

opps

[potent meadow]

hmm just got oath but it does not seem to trigger heart of the wild on shift

[placid mirage]

How fast is ur clone at 14%

[acoustic nebula]

You can sac more mastery for verse, aim for 25+

[acoustic nebula]

Only in combat

[daring sparrow]

You have to be in combat

[potent meadow]

so if i start in kiddy and stun

i have to shift back into kitty

to get it?

[clear pulsar]

Bro yall have these wild conceptions of what secondaries you need and shit

It makes no difficerence bro gear is gear

[quaint coral]

at 14 percent non combat is 1.4+

[flat abyss]

Is leveling in PvP viable?

[wind hatch]

anyone have any experience with Circle of life and death before i make it?

[clear pulsar]

@flat abyss not from 50 to 60, very little exp these days

[wind hatch]

I was thinking haste verse.

[clear pulsar]

@wind hatch for what spec?

[placid mirage]

I know gear is gear but like sometimes u have different options for the same upgrade

[wind hatch]

lazerchicken

[acoustic nebula]

Yeah I have like 27 verse, 21 mast, 11? Haste

[placid mirage]

That's a lot

[stone nest]

I’m at like 24% verse and 12 haste. But I’ve got some bad vault and world boss drops

[acoustic nebula]

Well yeah verse is good

[quaint coral]

Okay, I might have to switch a lot of pieces up. most of them at 184 pieces, so no big deal.

[clear pulsar]

It's no good for feral and I wouldnt bother with circle for resto in pvp either. I dont think it's better than dreambinder for boomie but I dont play boomie. @wind hatch

[placid mirage]

I guess I would be higher vers if I was only picking pvp pieces from vault

[wind hatch]

so you dont have experience with it then?

[acoustic nebula]

You should be picking pvp vault imo

[acoustic nebula]

Try it out let us know lmao

[wind hatch]

lol

[tribal kernel]

is dreamweaver better for boomkin cause i can use well honed instincts and 2 potency conduits or is the mastery from niya just too good?

[wind hatch]

i am

[acoustic nebula]

Depends

[lean lantern]

which of these rings is better for feral PVP - +134 crit +70 mast or +60 haste +132 vers + socket?

[quaint coral]

@acoustic nebula What legendary are you running? or what ones do you find worthy of taking

[acoustic nebula]

Depends

[acoustic nebula]

Verse and socket

[tribal kernel]

on what

[acoustic nebula]

What are you doing? What is your comp? Lol

[lean lantern]

Thank you

[glacial belfry]

Depends

[clear pulsar]

Circle just doesnt do shit tbh

[acoustic nebula]

Boat typically

[tribal kernel]

enhancement moonkin at 1.4 lul

[clear pulsar]

@glyph

God help us all

[acoustic nebula]

Lol

I'll just start recommending oath

Get oath tbh

That way when you get trained you sit bear and heal

[clear pulsar]

Make Dreambinder yall

For balance in pvp

[tribal kernel]

why not BOAT?

[wind hatch]

is it that good?

[clear pulsar]

Dreambinder lets u get an extra surge in every setup basically

If you stary at 100 asp, 4 without FoE, 5 with FoE

[tribal kernel]

4?

[clear pulsar]

On top of the extra dmg it adds to the surges

[quaint coral]

oath sounds so good

[lime light]

not good in the head

[clear pulsar]

100 - 30 - 27 - 24, basically you need 5 more astral power from either Shooting Stars or Nature's Balance or whatever else to get a 4th Starsurge in a row @tribal kernel

Cuz it'll cost 24 only

If you have FOE rolling then you get 24 over the 5 seconds it took you to cast the first 4 Surges

[tribal kernel]

i mean i didn't know you could get 4 without leggo

[clear pulsar]

No I'm saying with Dreambinder

[acoustic nebula]

Or your surges can all crit lol

[tribal kernel]

yes

[quaint coral]

All crit, is like 4k or 10k

[devout frost]

crit is rng

[quaint coral]

idk lol

[clear pulsar]

It's literally 40% crit on the FIRST surge

Not 100% on all lmao

[devout frost]

80% during incarn

[clear pulsar]

40% crit on one surge, 32% crit on another, 24% on third. And that's it.

Boat is fine and I'm sure you'll win games where you crit 2 surges in a row and it looks tremendous

[devout frost]

but its still 80, 64, 48

so only 2 are favoured to even crit

[acoustic nebula]

+40 (+4% moonkin), +32 (+8%moonkin), +24 (+12% moonkin)

[clear pulsar]

But Dreambinder is a significant gain

[devout frost]

dreambinder will always have higher burst than boat

while being more flexible

[clear pulsar]

Bro you can't just add the pvp talent crit to your boat value as if you didn't have that talent with dreambinder

Lmao

I can't bro

[acoustic nebula]

You do, but boat Convoke higher burst

[devout frost]

it doesnt

or well sure with convoke it does

[clear pulsar]

If your Convoke doesn't kill someone without Boat, you should have set it up better

[lime light]

both wrong, rethink and write again

[devout frost]

but if ur enemy team lets u do that u would win always anyway

doesnt matter if boat or not

[acoustic nebula]

I guess dreambinder would allow you to get even more SS after Convoke

Maybe I'll try that out and get back to you

[wind hatch]

Oath seems really nice but for RBG's im leaning towards circle or dreambinder.

[devout frost]

wym even more

how would u cast SS before convoke

and still have convoke in boat

[acoustic nebula]

Lol... Please stop responding

Wrath wrath SS SS SS , bash, CA, convoke

They trinket kick, you already have 100 ap

Because Convoke

[devout frost]

using CA

how that starlord workin out

and wrath wrath doesnt give u enough AsP to do triple SS

[lime light]

stop bully the pleb

in my channel

[acoustic nebula]

I didn't type out the dot placement

[devout frost]

okay i'll bully them in #balance instead since they spouting wrong shit in there too

[clear pulsar]

Wrath wrath is for eclipse I imagine

[acoustic nebula]

Yes

[clear pulsar]

Which is just like

A bit silly

[devout frost]

yes obv its for eclipse

[acoustic nebula]

You already have dots out and will have AP gen

[clear pulsar]

If you're turreting like that and throw out 3s of hardcast before you setup for burst

[devout frost]

but u dont reach 90 AsP with just wrath wrath

[clear pulsar]

Basically you're just assuming a situation where you have over 10 seconds of doing damage on targets that aren't CCd @acoustic nebula

If you cyclone the healer first, then you have 3 globals to do damage after that

[acoustic nebula]

That's what teammates are for

[hearty pecan]

What is the most common upgrade rotation gear wise? I mean in a transistion of honor to conquest

[clear pulsar]

If you rootbeam then healer and cyclone offtarget, then you have 4 globals before healer's out of rootbeam and you'd want to try to clone off of it

[acoustic nebula]

Whatever you get from chest

[clear pulsar]

You aren't turreting damage for 9 globals straight

For wrath wrath ss ss ss convoke ss ss ss

[tribal kernel]

how much better is haste compared to mastery?

[clear pulsar]

That takes like 15 seconds

[acoustic nebula]

It's really only wrath wrath that you hard cast

I anticipate trinket+kick on Convoke, which doesn't matter because you get so much AP from Convoke, even when kicked before half channel

Because your shit already hit

[clear pulsar]

Anyway

Gist of it is

On average, Dreambinder increases your damage by more

In a setup

BOAT only more damage when you pop CA/Incarn

[devout frost]

also doesnt make u predictable AF

which is same issue both boat and NF has

[acoustic nebula]

That works both ways, they can be saving cds anticipating it, and mis out on other usages

[clear pulsar]

What?

[acoustic nebula]

Or blow cds to stop Convoke which leaves them vulnerable after

[devout frost]

imagine saving defensives for when enemy pops offensive

i prefer just using defensives whenever tbh

[acoustic nebula]

I would trade healer trinket and dps trinket for Convoke

[placid mirage]

I replaced all my defensive with more offensives

[acoustic nebula]

Because then you can incap clone full and kill dps

[clear pulsar]

To be very simplistic, you could say that if something has 50% crit chance, then the average hit will be 150% of the noncrit hits, right?
So with BOAT, you get like, 4 surges, with a bit of a break between 3rd and 4th cuz you need to wait for ASP from FoE. It would go 140 -> 132 -> 124 -> 108 maybe. 504 total.
With Dreambinder, you get 100 -> 110 -> 120 -> 120 -> 120. 570 total.

There you go, SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN

Dreambinder's bis

NEXT

[placid mirage]

Wtf are u a phd

[clear pulsar]

Yessir

[tribal kernel]

shit

now i have to farm mists

[devout frost]

but dreambinder doesnt give crit silly @clear pulsar

[clear pulsar]

The best part was adding moonkin aura crit as if that was part of boat's value

[acoustic nebula]

Added to demonstrate that is not only the first that has higher chance to crit

[placid mirage]

What time of day do u think the worst players play

[devout frost]

well tbf dreambinder does look worse if u use it with inferior talents

[devout frost]

weekends

[acoustic nebula]

Winter break

[devout frost]

or like 4-6 pm on weekdays

[clear pulsar]

120% strength starsurge that crits 12% of the time is stronger than a 100% strength starsurge that crits 32% of the time. @acoustic nebula

[tribal kernel]

inferior talents?

[devout frost]

esp when u get one extra ss from the first one

[placid mirage]

I usually run moonkin aura + disarm + thorns for.melee

[clear pulsar]

Yeah 5 surges > 4 surges facts

[placid mirage]

In 2s

[devout frost]

no celestial?

[clear pulsar]

Your disarm is dispelable, I wouldn't bother with it unless it's against double dps

Celestial guardian is breeeoken

[placid mirage]

So guardian over like high winds

[devout frost]

no guardian over disarm

[placid mirage]

I am kinda pepega so I don't get a lot of.clones off

Well yeah I mean in terms of what replaces disarm

[devout frost]

yes guardian replaces disarms

[clear pulsar]

Idk I kinda like High Winds but

[placid mirage]

Ok I'll try running that more

[wind hatch]

Just had a talk with my girlfriend, who knows nothing about WoW and she said I should go with Dreambinder because the 20% reduction and she loves sells... LOL

[devout frost]

replace thorns instead

vs non-meele

[clear pulsar]

Can never justify taking it as feral

[clear pulsar]

That's a keeper

[placid mirage]

Windwalkers are my biggest problem

[devout frost]

moon and stars is fun vs double range tbh

[clear pulsar]

Disarm does nothing vs ww btw

[devout frost]

^

[clear pulsar]

They can still use all their spells while disarmed

[devout frost]

u cant disarm a monk

[placid mirage]

Even lamer

[devout frost]

use high winds vs ww

[placid mirage]

How do u ever peel a monk

[clear pulsar]

You kinda don't

[devout frost]

roots

[placid mirage]

They just fucking turbo jet constantly

[devout frost]

clone

incap

[clear pulsar]

Mass root the clones

When monk pops SEF

And run from them

[placid mirage]

Ok

[devout frost]

displacer beast when they use karma

oh wait

[clear pulsar]

You can try to clone the white tiger summon too, it's a big cd

[devout frost]

[clear pulsar]

Insta bear form when they use fists of fury

If the ww isn't playing parry talent (if fists doesn't slow you for 90%), then you can incap roar when they use it

[placid mirage]

Kk I will try

My brain not very fast either in pvp big downside

[clear pulsar]

I don't think you should beat ww disc as boomie tbh but people always play poorly so just try to capitalize on the mistakes

[placid mirage]

I'm boomie ret

[clear pulsar]

If it's 3s then it's better for you

[placid mirage]

I tried some 3s but haven't gotten too far

Like 1630

[clear pulsar]

If it's ret boomie 2s then

I guess WW can kinda fall over

[placid mirage]

We try that sometimes

[clear pulsar]

The ones that forget to port and stuff

[placid mirage]

He good at dash/teleport into los and heal tho

Sometimes they zug too hard and I can isolate disc with convoke

I just lose to it so much

At like 1700

I know root beam is good on the priest too

He can't do shit about it

What that

Broken

Clones it is I guess

I'm pretty bad about keeping pressure up I think I get too defensive

[junior plover]

S priest H pal

this is fine

[placid mirage]

Prot pally healing tho

[lost siren]

just cleave, they have shit aoe healing

it's all single target

[junior plover]

Doesnt help too much in 2s tbh

especially if they pair with like monk

[lost siren]

true, they need to do something about it

it's so stupid

[south night]

so boomkin, mainhand offhand or staff?

[lost siren]

watching a 3.3k druid (in the pins) going oom vs war/prot pala

cant do shit vs them, pala always at full mana

warrior broken, no surprise there

nothing is dying

[clear pulsar]

Yeah word of glory is way out of line

[lost siren]

they have no business contesting a healer like that

[novel sky]

Feels bad playing the piano with hots and he just wogs his dude to full

[lost siren]

hots just feel bad overall

gotta wait until more vers and hp

[orchid lotus]

can someone help me out with a root beam macro?

[tacit lance]

What is the name of the trinket that gives you 500+ mastery and where does it drop?

[clear pulsar]

It's a world quest trinket

[chrome panther]

rdruid life

miss one gcd, gg

[clear pulsar]

Instructor's Divine Bell @tacit lance

[tacit lance]

Cheers ❤️

[stone nest]

Rdruid feels good in bgs. That’s about it atm.

[tacit lance]

And it is just a random spawn world quest?

[clear pulsar]

Can drop in Calling reward too

But yeah just random

[tacit lance]

Guess imma just wait for the wq to spawn 😄

[fervent gull]

as a fae should i use conflux, precise or fury conduit?

[patent idol]

what addon makes

your numbers of dmg bigger

[split tulip]

I am a beginner in feral pvp but am I the only one dying in 2 gcds from rets/ww/sps (insert random class here). Not so bad gear 13% vers + pvp trinkets

[devout frost]

are u using defensives

when they pop offensives

[tribal kernel]

i had ilvl 175 and 20% vers

do you have pvp gear?

[clear pulsar]

Yeah yall mad undergeard s2g

Need a healer too if you dont know the script of double dps

[oblique wharf]

@patent idol classic numbers

[split tulip]

using pve gear with vers

indeed, I pop my defensives for sure, try to kite etc

[oblique wharf]

Whats your ilvl

[split tulip]

190

[clear pulsar]

You're prob playing big wrong

[split tulip]

that's for sure too

[clear pulsar]

Or without a healer

[split tulip]

yeah, without healer

[oblique wharf]

Gotta use defensives high

[clear pulsar]

Generally double dps will be very fast, quick reactions and very efficient cd trades

I'd stay away for now

[oblique wharf]

I would stay away from 2s as a whole rn

Not a fun time

[split tulip]

yeah

[oblique wharf]

The dampening change is silly

And its not because of the super long healer dps matches

[split tulip]

but does it get better with more vers and skill? at least in solo and bgs? can u take on retries

[oblique wharf]

Its cause you can double dps with two melee hybrids

And go to town

And heal to full

[devout frost]

retri is quite easy to deal with @split tulip

quite noobstompy tho

[oblique wharf]

They are quite kiteable

[clear pulsar]

Not anymore

Ranged TV

That can proc HoW

[oblique wharf]

true

love it

i love getting hit by a 10k judgement from 30 yds away

[clear pulsar]

It's the world boss up rn

Drops their bis pvp ledgy

[oblique wharf]

is final verdict ranged?

[split tulip]

yeah, indeed, I need to practice... slightly annoyed that I have to work twice harder as feral in order to match many other classes, rets esp being ultra easy to play

[devout frost]

yes

[clear pulsar]

Thats so untrue lol

[devout frost]

10 ya

[clear pulsar]

Feral's in a very good spot

You dont have to work 'twice as hard' whatever that's supposed to mean

[devout frost]

i would agree with what cathbad wrote if it said fury instead of feral

[oblique wharf]

pressing bite 3 times in a row is hard

[clear pulsar]

It's almost same thing tbf, just missing 1 extra r @devout frost

[devout frost]

me spamming bite

[clear pulsar]

I dont hate symmetry but holy cock it feels near useless outside of berserk

[oblique wharf]

outside of beserk you can still bite shred bite etc no?

[split tulip]

I can't get to press the bites since I can't tank wings or w/e

[clear pulsar]

Well takes 3 cp to get back to 5 @oblique wharf

[split tulip]

mb I am doing it wrong

[clear pulsar]

It's more like bite shred shred wait wait shred wait bite

[oblique wharf]

oh i thought symmetry gave 2 CP

[clear pulsar]

Bruh

Start again

[oblique wharf]

you get one back through your passives dont you

i dont feral so

[clear pulsar]

No no

TF gives 2 cp refund

Berserk also gives 2 cp refund

But outside of Berserk

Getting 2 cps back doesn't feel very impactful

[oblique wharf]

i thought ferals had a baseline passive that refunded 1 combo point, 20% per CP spent?

[clear pulsar]

Nah that's outlaw

[oblique wharf]

oh maybe im tripping

oh they just have this

[clear pulsar]

Thing is

During Berserk you do Bite Bite Bite but

Your 2nd and 3rd bites are at 4 cp

Which means they have a chance not to refund the 2 cp from Berserk

So sometimes you can't Bite Bite Bite

[oblique wharf]

ah true

not as good as i thought

couldnt oath be pretty good on feral, for off heals

[clear pulsar]

It's good when it works during Berserk, but just feels meh outside of it

Idk maybe!? I'm not gonna blow soul ash on Oath

[oblique wharf]

yeh i wouldnt either

[drifting junco]

In pvp which do you think is better for Balance, Night fae or Kyrian?

[devout frost]

Kyrian > Necro -> NF ---> Venthyr

[oblique wharf]

necro over night fae hmm

i wanna see

a rotting moonkin build

with necro and circle

i cant imagine it would be that good

[latent compass]

whats best feral legendary for 2s?

[forest kite]

Man, do I buy a 1h next week and an offhand the week after

or do I wait 2 weeks and buy a 2h?

For resto?

I hate this decision making

[oblique wharf]

you can buy a two hand this week?

[forest kite]

I got some solid mythic drops

So I've been spending conquest on other gear sets to round out my vers

[oblique wharf]

big mistake

[forest kite]

Nah, it's been far better for the balance of main stat and secondaries so far

[oblique wharf]

well staff has haste, if you still need haste, I would wait out

[forest kite]

Yeah that's the big decision. I'm at 19% haste and 19% vers right now

Only 6% mastery

Which concerns me

[oblique wharf]

Im no resto pro, but I would think you would want to prio mastery after 20% haste

[forest kite]

Yeah that's generally the move, as it is for mythics... And i can pick up additional haste on my ring and cloak still

And bracers

So it might be a better move to go 1h with the current gearing

[oblique wharf]

you just gotta think long term with weapon

so not what you need now

but what you will need

[ruby walrus]

Anyone else being excluded from RBG's because of being a resto druid

[oblique wharf]

cause its unlikely you will buy another weapon, but you mayb rebuy a ring etc.

[forest kite]

True

Safer in that case to go Haste

and restat elsewhere

[oblique wharf]

yeah

[forest kite]

And maybe Daddy Vault blesses me with a weapon inbetween anyway

[oblique wharf]

or the vault gives you an off hand and makes the choice that much more awkward

[forest kite]

In which case I'

*I'd assume it was fate

And be forced into buying a 1h

Or else I'll never win a rated pvp match again

[wanton parcel]

My plan is to continue farming m10+ ToP for a chance at both a 1h and/or an offhand that have vers. Will use as place holders for the next week or two

[oblique wharf]

Innate resolve WQ up in Ardenweald for horde

171

[thorny venture]

I almost wish I had gone and grabbed an int weapon for pvp

Balance is fun for rbgs

but I'm doing okay with a 200 ilvl one

[patent idol]

any weakaura

for bloodtalons?

[junior plover]

hpal kekw

[thorny venture]

sweet

got a random vicious saddle

I love mounts

[clear pulsar]

Move out of the big red aoe @junior plover

[thorny venture]

I'm glad its kinda super fast to get 2 honor rewards from rated bgs haha

[junior plover]

Nah it was like 40% judgement

he just sticked to my healer

and they cleaved

[thorny venture]

So, warlock snare is broken as hell

How the hell is that allowed

[potent meadow]

Any good Resto arena streams?

[high swan]

Minpojke is pretty unreal, 2900 rating as resto

[devout frost]

pins

[still trout]

Feral or balance for 2s?

[devout frost]

yep

feral

balance hard to execute in 2s

[still trout]

Hahaha yep

That’s what I figured, thanks dude!

[hasty dome]

Yeah, learning the hard way balance is rough in 2s

[forest kite]

"are you feral or balance?" "feral" "okay nvm" okay 1300 hunter who uses lone wolf and gives up roar, mortal strike debuff, purge, snare

[tribal kernel]

haha

had one moonkin join me

he said "queue it will be fun"

he uses incarn and convoke before the game starts and then leaves

[vital parcel]

would you guys say its easier to climb in 3s or 2s as balance?

[forest kite]

it's probably easier to climb in 3s if your good for any spec

[vital parcel]

i feel like theres more room for error the more players u are, but maybe your right

[cinder sundial]

how does convoke AI work in pvp?

[vital parcel]

okeyish

[cinder sundial]

will it not hit someone inside of root beam unless they already in combat with u

like sometimes i root beam

and it spams heals

[queen copper]

That does what. It’s nit a good idea

[devout frost]

it never hit rooted targets

for any content

[cinder sundial]

so if i have them rooted

dot them after the root

and convoke

it wont hit them?

[thorny venture]

You can take the pvp talent deep roots

[devout frost]

convoke doesnt hit rooted targets @cinder sundial

just like starfall

doesnt hit cc'd targets if dmg would break the cc

[clear pulsar]

You ever play resto @devout frost ?

I remember you saying you come here when people in balance say you're being too aggro

#resto gets fucken aggro

It's terrifying

And it's very nice

Good days of people asking about vers corruption for m+ in there

[devout frost]

im dumb as bricks do u actually think i can heal

[clear pulsar]

Well yes

!?

[devout frost]

only serious healing i did

was fistweaving in first tier of mop before it got nerfed

and that can barely be called healing

even tho it was fun af

[clear pulsar]

BFA resto keys was sooooo chill

[devout frost]

i mained warr last 3 xpacs

ppl been calling me aggro today in balance though

[clear pulsar]

There was like 3 bosses where you actually had to heal people, but resto was so busted for 5mans that you could dh-faceroll the keyboard and put up enough HPS

[devout frost]

cause i said they were casual if they didnt have boat and it wouldnt matter what leggo they crafted at their level of play

[clear pulsar]

See I think that is a shit answer

You aren't wrong

But you aren't right either

[devout frost]

guess its just mindset i have cause i dont pug

i understand its important to have percieved best setup for pugs

but i legit dont pug

and dont see why anyone would do it

so for me anyone not pushing if for fun player

and nothing wrong with that

[clear pulsar]

I think my take is more that everyone can set their gear up to the best of their ability regardless of how well they play or how high they push in a given aspect of the game. That being said, if someone doesn't know what lego is bis by now, you could infer they may not know how to play particularly well, and since BOAT is a window of opportunity, they'd lose more value from it than from something like Circle.

It's not a difficult answer tho right? "Should I craft BOAT? I do 10s and heroic raid" > yes

You don't have to turn it into finger pointing

I would have too

But you don't have to

[kindred galleon]

Look true pvp

[haughty compass]

Night fae and boat is just too insane

[clear pulsar]

It's really gimmicky

And a win-more type of setup imo

[devout frost]

its like a really highly stacked card house

if enemy just hit the bottom it would all fall

[kindred galleon]

But its fun

[devout frost]

winning is more fun

[kindred galleon]

Too much fun is dangerous

[shadow dagger]

BIS feral legendary is VERS/MAST symmetry helm?

for arenas 3v3s right

[oak canyon]

ITS SYMMETRY SEASON BOYS

LETS GO

[ionic temple]

YEBOY

[mighty yoke]

I need some tips for staying alive against double melee in 2s and 3s

As resto or boomy

I pop bark skin and go bear, FR, and still go down

[blissful belfry]

ask for peel. incap shout -> clone if you can, soulshape away, vortex leap away if you resto

[devout frost]

thorns if ur boomie tooo

[clear pulsar]

Thorns if you're resto as well

And vortex leap away if you're boomie too

Tf you guys on about

With this spec-cism

[blissful belfry]

Well, vortez leap is if you resto aff as boomy

[junior plover]

So

[blissful belfry]

and i aint resto aff if 2 melee are going to train me

[junior plover]

How do you beat Prot Balance

with their BoP bullshit

[devout frost]

i dont play resto @clear pulsar

[junior plover]

i literally cant clone it I'm dead before 1.6s passes

[blissful belfry]

LoS

[devout frost]

u think i know if they have thorns or not

[junior plover]

Cant LoS them all game

[blissful belfry]

i mena, los the convoke

[devout frost]

its easy to see coming

[blissful belfry]

or quick cc the angel givin shield

[mighty yoke]

I have most trouble with WW & Arms combos

[blissful belfry]

and then cut, but i'd bet on los

[junior plover]

Oh you can cc the bop angel

thats what i was missing

[blissful belfry]

yeah, you can clone/incap shout/bash it

it stops the bubble

still gotta manage to kick convoke after tho

[thorny venture]

Won some more games over 1800. Even had a couple losses with no rating loss

Starting to entertain idea I could push for 2100 haha

I'd love 226 gear

[somber vale]

whats best for boomie legos in pvp?

[empty hare]

So a new question I think. I am 1601 in Rated BG and getting 213 gear from honor upgrades to conquest. What happens if I drop below challenger? Does it cap out your ability to upgrade to 207 or 200 if you drop rank?

[devout frost]

dreambinder

[devout frost]

if u drop rank u cant upgrade past ur new rank

[thorny venture]

It'll cap to 207 if you drop rank

Part of the reason I'm so scared to try and do more rbgs now that I hit 1800, thankfully I gained a little buffer this week

[devout frost]

just upgrade ur gear first then

[thorny venture]

I want 220 gear for the rest of the season haha

[clear pulsar]

Your gear doesn't get downgraded if that was your question tho

[empty hare]

Got it. So it really incentivizes you to max conquest in Arena before losing rank

[clear pulsar]

You maintain your gear

[empty hare]

I need 4 more 213 pieces so should focus on those before pushing to climb I guess

Thanks guys

Make that 6 pieces

[clear pulsar]

lol

I think that's a silly notion but

To each their own

[devout frost]

stop being so toxic wtf @clear pulsar

$report

[last owl]

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[surreal heron]

[devout frost]

[empty hare]

It’s a really weird system because your great vault gear is unranked but can be upgraded to your rank that week

So it encourages people to sit on wins

[fickle junco]

Saves honor I guess

[devout frost]

u need to play to get the vault reward tho @empty hare

[empty hare]

Yeah but you can grind honor unranked in arena for example and preserve your rank in BGs or vice versa

[fickle junco]

In BFA you needed to get 1 rated win in the pvp bracket to get the higher reward in the chest that week.

[empty hare]

Right!

But here you just upgrade with honor

[thorny venture]

it definitely encourages some degenerate stuff if you're scared of dropping a bracket

[empty hare]

It’s just odd to create a system that encourages you to park

[fickle junco]

You could also do other rated content (2,3 BG) just have one for rating and the other for farming

[empty hare]

Yeah. That is what I did today. Worked on 2s until conquest and honor capped

[devout frost]

or u could have fun instead of worrying about gearing so much

[empty hare]

Will only get a 200 great vault item but can upgrade that (I think)

Also a good point!

[fickle junco]

Better gear = more fun

[queen copper]

What’s the MH cost. 1300?

1350?

[thorny venture]

1350, oh is 450

Adds up to 1800.

Well I mostly pvp'd as a way to gear up faster for pve

[queen copper]

Yea no weap for me so gonna buy mh.

Next week il get a weap in vault fir sure

[brave shuttle]

I’m having issues healing a dps through triple dps (and sometimes) double dps bursting - like warr/ww or warr/ret etc. Any advice on that? Or is the damage just too high and the target needs to also use personal

Trying to full hits but as soon as IB runs out then my regrowths are sometimes now enough

Full hits = full hot with autocorrect

[fickle junco]

Need others to use cc to break up the burst

[queen copper]

Yep you can’t get connected on by 3

[fickle junco]

Id remember but if you have disorienting roar that buy you a second

[queen copper]

Target should use personals and you trade CDs with theirs

[tiny oar]

Lol what a time to be alive I loved ppl asking about vers set and the whole channel just getting set on fire

Good morning gamers break sum ankles out there 2day

[junior plover]

Whyd no one tell me BT is op in pvp

[stuck talon]

any pvp lego recommendations for feral?

[crude minnow]

search function

[silk orchid]

what cov is good for pvp? ICY says necro, wowhead says NF. I'm still debating feral vs balance. Convoke seems great, but the CD is high. Debating necro. Would love venthyr, but I dunno about that stun.

mainly looking at bgs and wpvp, little to no arena.

[fickle junco]

Wpvp NF port is good for getting away

[raw panther]

bros

i fucking LOVE moonkin, almost 2400 in rbgs 🙂

[harsh jasper]

Is it worth losing the 40% trinket bonus for some of the big dam trinkets like skulkers in 2s?

[forest kite]

is big convoke dam easier to pull off as feral or balance?

[harsh jasper]

balance

because you can set it up from stealth

and range

[primal bane]

priests counter tanks in 1v1?

[normal wedge]

Does incarn/eclipse damage bonus effect convoke wraths/Starfire?

Wondering if I should swap fury for umbral

[primal bane]

ofc it does

[stray sigil]

all these fucking enh bug abusing now

LOL

ty reddit ig

[tiny oar]

waats the enc bug

[chrome panther]

i knew something fishy was going on with enhance

[hasty dome]

?

[primal bane]

so u gonna spill

[chrome panther]

^

its fucking disgusting