Yep and regardless of form too
#pvp
winter pollen
junior plover
sounds op af
winter pollen
It is very good
shadow mist
Yeah it's strong
ebon igloo
i just did a 2s match vs windwalker shadowpriest and they were invisible for like a minute before they just annihlated us, any idea what would have let them be invisible in arena?
junior plover
i guess im going endurance then
vagrant grotto
Yep and regardless of form too
Isn't that a Guardian conduit?
devout frost
its not BIS for guardian
winter pollen
Is it not?
vagrant grotto
It is a guardian conduit but any spec can use it
What?? That makes no sense. How can you slot it if it's not ur spec?
winter pollen
all of my guardian guildies are getting it
devout frost
@vagrant grotto its a general conduit not a guardian conduit
winter pollen
The game doesn't prevent you from slotting it even as resto
devout frost
its 3rd best for guardian @winter pollen
vagrant grotto
<@!357188660971569152> its a general conduit not a guardian conduit
Oh huh. I guess I'll go back and check.
winter pollen
Feeling oath btw, does it matter if I go wrist or shoulders?
clear pulsar
<@!357188660971569152> its a general conduit not a guardian conduit
It's definitely tagged as guardian in-game
vagrant grotto
it's guardian?
winter pollen
Yes, you can still use it as resto
vagrant grotto
I don't think that's intentional.
devout frost
It's definitely tagged as guardian in-game
theyre all tagged except covenant ones, no
clear pulsar
No
devout frost
doesnt mean its only usable by guardian
clear pulsar
The finesse ones aren't tagged, and 2 of the endurance ones aren't either
Right ofc
I'm just saying that 1. they're tagged as guardian and 2. it has no bearing on what it works for
vagrant grotto
Huh. Ok, awesome. U sure it works without guardian affinity?
clear pulsar
Yes bro we play the game
It takes like 20s for you test it on a tanking dummy too
devout frost
@winter pollen also for guardian u prefer the barkskin CDR or ironfur proc
vagrant grotto
Lol for a sec I thought you called me a dummy and I would've taken it tbh
devout frost
if u even get 2 endur.
winter pollen
I'd agree with you, but I'd still say it's BIS for guardian pvp
devout frost
i dont talk about guardian pvp
clear pulsar
And I'd say you don't deserver christmas gifts if you play guardian in pvp
devout frost
cause thats a meme and a half
winter pollen
LOL
candid moth
someone bann him for saying he plays guardian pvp
vagrant grotto
Maybe I can finally survive the convoke burst huehue
winter pollen
im not liking unending growth for bgs btw
the rejuv proc always seems to never come in at a good time
I bet memory of the mother tree is good for bgs
I dont play guardian pvp
Im resto
clear pulsar
Yeah big doubt that rejuv spreader is any useful anywhere other than raid
devout frost
2s resto abuser
winter pollen
Are resto's good in 2's atm?
Because I'm getting shit on by priests and their mind games
vagrant grotto
the rejuv proc always seems to never come in at a good time
Yeah, I just got verdant infusion so I'm switching to that for now
devout frost
winter pollen
I dont think verdan would be good for bgs at all
vagrant grotto
Because I'm getting shit on by priests and their mind games
Hope your partner kicks it
devout frost
who plays rbgs lol
vagrant grotto
arenas yeah
Oh yeah, sorry, we were talking about 2s just now
vagrant grotto
I love me some bgs but just to fuck around mostly
winter pollen
By the way, pod tender is great for pvp, unlike what we originally thought
candid moth
who plays rbgs lol
people started playing them again. Lots of teams queing
clear pulsar
It's the weekly quest
devout frost
By the way, pod tender is great for pvp, unlike what we originally thought
thing that makes pod tender bad for pvp is that you chose NF
clear pulsar
devout frost
winter pollen
NF was chosen by 90% of restoration druids lol
candid moth
I actually enjoy NF in PvP
devout frost
90% of all resto druids, not pvp resto druids
winter pollen
I got called a troll for liking NF in arenas but it's actually good
vagrant grotto
hey hey hey NF is the best.
winter pollen
Convoke is a great opener, and you can easily get convoke off without an interrupt if you kite good
devout frost
love opening with a burst healing cooldown
winter pollen
You realize if you use it in cat form it can one shot people right?
it's based on your form
foggy grotto
if only it didnt break cc
vagrant grotto
have u not watched bahjeera's 2s
devout frost
it doesnt
foggy grotto
it does
devout frost
have u not watched bahjeera's 2s
no why would i
foggy grotto
and it also goes to cycloned targets
winter pollen
I've completely destroyed people with convoke in cat form
foggy grotto
cyclone isnt cc? then get off the DR! 😛
winter pollen
And soul shape is great for kiting
devout frost
that didnt answer why i would wathc bajeera
instead of just a resto druid
if i wanted to see a resto druid
vagrant grotto
instead of just a resto druid
ah well that is a good point
lol that is a very good point
sorry, my partner is an arms warrior so it just made sense to me
devout frost
why doesnt he watch a good arms warrior then
vagrant grotto
why doesnt he watch a good arms warrior then
Oof
clear pulsar
"Sorry" goddamn yall trash
candid moth
😄
vagrant grotto
I'm not going around trying to start shit
I'm a goddamn druid
I don't even understand the whole horde-alliance BS
devout frost
pvp player that doesnt tryna start shit, this is why u cant climb
candid moth
lets get you both in the Theater of Pain pit and fight it out
vagrant grotto
you can't even trash in arenas
what do u MEAN
do y'all have fucking trash talking macros or some shit
winter pollen
Do we know if memories will drop off LFR?
clear pulsar
No I let the other team rez whoever we killed first so we can kill again tho
winter pollen
because I've given up hope on getting memory of the mother tree
vagrant grotto
No I let the other team rez whoever we killed first so we can kill again tho
When I get to that point, maybe. I'm still struggling against WW monks and Boomkins.
devout frost
because I've given up hope on getting memory of the mother tree
raid leggo are 100% chance
devout frost
No I let the other team rez whoever we killed first so we can kill again tho
u dont even res them for them? weak
winter pollen
That'd be great if my guild could actually get to lady innerva lol
devout frost
just pug a normal run
clear pulsar
Had this 2s game in bfa
Go 15+ mins cuz we killed rogue, let the disc rez, repeat 3 times
Big fun
BFA fun
winter pollen
Question about soul ash
does it cost the same amount of soul ash to upgrade than it does to cost? or is it more cost effiecient to just build it at a higher ilvl from the start
devout frost
same cost
winter pollen
cool
was going to create a 190 just in case i get my other leggo so i can make both this week
devout frost
it's the same cost @shrewd fossil
shrewd fossil
5k? 210s go for 40-50 in my server
clear pulsar
190 shoulder was going for 25k
shrewd fossil
devout frost
You're peanuts
thanks he is my fav cartoon char
unique lion
Is ele shaman good with another dps for 2s arena ? Is so wich one ?
dull apex
hey, is verdant infusion the go-to resto pvp legendary?
vagrant grotto
hey, is verdant infusion the go-to resto pvp legendary?
nah but it's good
dull apex
oh
vagrant grotto
probably for 2s tho
dull apex
what other options are there? :3
dull apex
ah ok, is that the mainstream choice?
dull apex
cool thx!
tiny oar
split lava
Yo guys for boomkin, which item slot is best to put the Timeworn Dreambinder legendary on?
vagrant grotto
It's 100% the go to
even in bgs?
dull apex
oh but who ares about bgs :p
vagrant grotto
oh but who ares about bgs :p
no clue but it's still 'pvp'
split lava
Yo guys for boomkin, which item slot is best to put the Timeworn Dreambinder leg...
Chest vs Ring, assuming chestpiece yeah?
warm hatch
Hi guys i am new druid currently playing mainly resto ... I just made my lego . I would like yo ask for a recomendation on content creator or guides about how to improve as resto druid, thanks in advanse!
I am not necrolord (i know its the best for resto) i play kyrian because i do play all of the specs
echo canopy
what lego did u make?
gloves or shoulders?
btw there are links in pins
also I like this guy https://www.twitch.tv/mmarkers
clear pulsar
There are plenty of streamers on the last pinned message too
last trout
What do you guys think of primal wrath + apex predator legendary vs pet classes like DK - shouldnt we get ALOT of free bites then?
clear pulsar
But in-depth guides on youtube aren't really a thing tbh
echo canopy
are shoulders better than hands?
warm hatch
i think so becaue the give more stats, but i can be wrong on that
@clear pulsar thanks for the info, are the guides in icy veins and wowhead relevant ?
clear pulsar
Historically icy-veins's had pretty grotesque shit in their pvp guides
Wowhead should be good but not fully up to date
warm hatch
okay good to know
also 1 more question i find my self running OOM very fast, specially when playing against high burst dmg, much faster then dpriest and resto shamans
is that normal
or i am doing something very wrong
clear pulsar
Yeah that's normal. Depends on how fast you oom, ofc you may be inefficient, but rsham and disc mana is crazy good compared to rdru.
foggy grotto
pretty sure shoulders and hands give the same amount of stats
warm hatch
well i am nelf i am trying to get drinks as much as possible also i use the Innervate when i healing burst dmg, but i cannot drink to often because of the pace of the game. Thank you so much for the info, so far i am having a lot of fun with my druid and i jsut want to improve
warm hatch
for pve gloves are better
can you please explain why is that i am curious to understand
marble charm
Heya guys, don't know how stupid my questions are allowed to be (never played pvp since vanilla). Is there a basic structure on how to kill a shadow priest as a feral? I feel like I have no chance in open world pvp :<
devout frost
availablity of other pieces @warm hatch
clear pulsar
Cuz vendor gear
warm hatch
i am not sure that i udnerstand
for PVE you will be able to get better shoulders, thats why you go for hands?
foggy grotto
imo for pvp, it comes down to this: if you need more haste, go for haste/vers gloves, if you need more mastery, go for mastery/vers shoulders, cause those stat combos arent available from the pvp vendor
devout frost
u can get +10 ilvl shoulders in pve
warm hatch
😦 i made my shoulders with haste/vers, but i guess i will be okay with it
foggy grotto
at the end of the day, i dont think it'll matter much
warm hatch
u can get +10 ilvl shoulders in pve
got it, thanks mate!
thank you all for the info and your guidance!
appreciate it!
pine pecan
for feral what pvp leggos am i looking at if i want to push arena rating?
tiger's fury helm with vers/mast or something else could be better?
dawn totem
sup with the conquest items? still shows me 200 ilvl unranked
i gotta upgrade them?
with conquest? or honor
tardy hare
honor
dawn totem
thought if u are above 1400 or 1600 just goes higher ilvl?
dawn totem
k thx
frail narwhal
Have most boomies landed on Timeworn Dreambinder for pvp?
devout frost
ye
frail narwhal
👍
lime light
Anyone level my other druid pls
devout frost
stray ravine
How are people choosing between Symmetry & Apex predator fro Feral PvP?
tardy hare
trihard
clear pulsar
@tardy hare this was mine
tardy hare
buoyant dragon
whats best resto legnedary anyone knows?
devout frost
verdant infusion
buoyant dragon
Circle of life and death any good>
clear pulsar
It's ok, makes you spend mana faster, but at least it's a consistent increase to your HPS
buoyant dragon
I think to make it beacuse its good for bommi (bis) and its bis for rdruid in m+
and on top of it its really good in arenas too
buoyant dragon
well its really good for bomi to isnt it?
clear pulsar
Circle is a good compromise do-it-all legendary for sure
devout frost
but resto use vision for mother tree for m+
clear pulsar
But it's not bis for boomie or resto anywhere pmuch
devout frost
its fine for all content but its not bis for anything
clear pulsar
Isn't boat better for damage as resto too? @devout frost
devout frost
for dmg yes
clear pulsar
Circle's only bis for feral aoe
devout frost
only if NF tho
buoyant dragon
boa maybe for m+ with more gear ye
devout frost
otherwise prob better leggo available for resto dps
clear pulsar
But it's a good jack of all trades legendary for multi specing
devout frost
boat is always better than circle
gear lvl doestn matter
for heavy aoe pulsar is better
buoyant dragon
but boomi afini is yaiks for pvp
devout frost
boomy affinty is good
buoyant dragon
ik its good
clear pulsar
Circle is fine
hardy cargo
Circle is not bis for resto m+, at least right now. Heals>dmg for high keys
buoyant dragon
You get more HPS with Cricle
Its just not mana eff
what you play double lifebloom?
devout frost
and being mana efficient is super important rn in m+
buoyant dragon
Yeah but meta gona change so soon that double lifebloom is gona be idk worthelss almost
You have mana issues in m plus only if you are new to druid bascily
or if you play like 15s keys right now
devout frost
why would u play anything less than the gear cap
buoyant dragon
wat you mean?
devout frost
ur not gonna craft a legendary to be good in a +3
hardy cargo
I personally like dtl, but if circle is good for pvp,make it
devout frost
u craft it to be good in the top content you do
clear pulsar
I'm about to quit the game too tbh, I just play heroic week so I can slay the +7 spam
YESSIR
Yes maam
devout frost
yeah i got aotc and keystone master, back to leveling alts and collecting battle pets
slands already finished
lime light
Kids
buoyant dragon
wat legedaries you guys made?
warm hatch
Verdant Infusion
buoyant dragon
prob best for pvp resto
warm hatch
i think so
buoyant dragon
but i think ill make curcle cuz its decent for almost everything
frank crown
Frenzied Regeneration provided with Guardian Affinity (Talent) is no longer incorrectly put on cooldown when Heart of the Wild (Talent) ends.
Does this affect oath?
Meaning if we use the hotw from oath the other won't be on cd? Thinking i am going to run oath for feral actually
stray sigil
nobody impersonates as well as u do @devout frost
clear pulsar
Give fuji a break he's one of them talk-shit-thru-broadcast guys
We love him anyway
stray sigil
@clear pulsar that dude literally impersonates lol
told me hes some r1 i have on bnet
was pretty fucking awkward
forest kite
do u know if leech/Avoidance/speed work in arena content ? I got 1 item with high amount of avoidance in my great vault this week so ...
clear pulsar
In BFA, the tertiary stat random procs in gear did not work
Idk about now I don't have any
forest kite
i test leech its works at 50%
but for avoidance i dont know how test it
when I go in, arena my avoidance is visible in my stats (before like BFA the avoidance was not visible I think)
stray sigil
if leech works i dont see why speed or avoidance wouldnt
clear pulsar
@stray sigil are you venthyr yet?
mystic wind
does anyone know if Verdant Infusion (swiftmend no longer consumes a HoT) and Floral Recycling conduit (swiftmend healing increased by 52% of consumed HoT) work together? or does it not work because it doesn't consume a HoT anymore
clear pulsar
Or too poosy to do it?
They work together and it just picks the hot to empower Swiftmend without consuming it @mystic wind
mystic wind
10-4 ty
clear pulsar
The order of priority for picking the hot is the same
So it's really not a good conduit tbh
At all
clear pulsar
Cuz it'll always pick Regrowth first if there's Regrowth on the target, which there will be
Which makes it at best like a 600 heal increase to Swiftmend
stray sigil
on main?
clear pulsar
Yep
stray sigil
venthyr was kinda nice in pve
but then i tried t’doing dub dps 2s with my brother
and that shit was so bad
meta is too fast paced for venthyr
lime light
And Frost donki kong damgur
clear pulsar
Feral donki kong dmgur too
clear pulsar
@stray sigil I like how people act like convoke doesn't go off past a certain rating
stray sigil
just have to set it up
lime light
And we gonna make rdru feral
stray sigil
its not that jard
clear pulsar
its not that jard
I liked doing it off of kicks
stray sigil
played into prev and i dont remember who was the so
sp
like once they silence i just stun boomy and full send
haughty compass
Feral affinity convoke do big DMG as resto?
clear pulsar
Kick spriest in shadow can't stop or dispersion ez puntos
clear pulsar
Yeah little bit. Resto Convoke is only 12 total spells tho it'll be definitely less damage than Feral spec Convoke @haughty compass
stray sigil
clear pulsar
Greater Fade is shadow school too I'm like 99% sure @stray sigil
clear pulsar
You have a horde low lvl toon?
Can test it
My spriest is lvl 45
From legion still
lime light
clear pulsar
stray sigil
devout frost
We never even talked before brainlet @stray sigil
stray sigil
yup def not
devout frost
Actual dpd
harsh jasper
I need some BDE kitty pvp advice, verse mastery gear for Arena correct?
stray sigil
yes
vapid nexus
yeah, and the real bde lies in taking stalker trinket from raid; forgoing the vers dmg for a brrrrt button (don't actually do this outside of styling on clowns)
lime light
Idk they refuse me
Cuz dislectic
I wanna pump but no time yet
:(
Wish i was 12
And i could pump
All day long
shell shore
Which leggo are people liking for 3's?
shell shore
For resto, why verdant infusion vs dark titan or sephuz's?
chrome panther
saves a gcd, extends cen ward, saves mana
dtl is practically a negative effect unless against rot comps
sephuz is usable but 🤷 not as good as verdant.
shell shore
Hmmm yeah extending adaptive swarm is good too
chrome panther
if your playing necrolord it should be a nobrainer
terse orbit
did i do something bad, crafting apex?
harsh jasper
<@273600989330669580> dont die
remote cave
If you have no other options, is the Draught Legendary worth making?
scarlet cape
I'm really tempted to craft Oath of the Elder Druid for PvP (resto). Those of you who have crafted it, do you like it?
remote cave
I'm Feral by the way, in regard to my question above.
quartz pumice
I went with Verdant and I actually like it so far @scarlet cape
I did it based on what I was seeing a few druid in the ranks (https://www.pvpleaderboard.com/leaderboards/filter/results?class=druid&spec=restoration&leaderboard=3v3®ion=us) doing.
devout frost
I'm really tempted to craft Oath of the Elder Druid for PvP (resto). Those of yo...
@tiny oar
quartz pumice
Honestly, since yesterday, 4 of the top 10 crafted the Swiftmend leg. I know this isn't like the end all be all, but it shows confidence.
harsh jasper
Honestly , is symmetry really that much better than apex? I mean I know its more RNG, but getting a proc with 2 big bites at full damage back to back seems good to
fervent imp
Is verdant infusion the best legendary in 2v/3v for rdrood on shoulder ?
chrome panther
gloves or shoulders are fine
pvp gloves give vers/mast, pvp shoulders are vers/haste
quartz pumice
^
chrome panther
go with whatevers a bigger ilvl bump rn imo
fervent imp
true tyvm
raven stump
Honestly , is symmetry really that much better than apex? I mean I know its mor...
problem in 3's is youre likely not giving the procs enough and symmetry is a guaranteed 2 bonus CP which is super good for continued burst
harsh jasper
good point, however, I can never get into 3s for some reason
raven stump
i havnet crafted symm yet because im waiting and hoping for circle as my next craft but using apex in 3s is total dogshit so far
harsh jasper
torn !
clear pulsar
Symmetry is consistent value
But I hate it tbh
raven stump
ive just been forced to use it for stats
turns out a 191 ilvl item with bis stats is good regardless of procs 😛
raven stump
good point, however, I can never get into 3s for some reason
fair-i premade with a disc and rogue for our 3's
harsh jasper
fair-i premade with a disc and rogue for our 3's
Is that a good 3s comp ? No more disc feral hunter?
junior plover
Is that a good 3s comp ? No more disc feral hunter?
It's a different comp
jungle cleave is all about sustained damage with healing reduction
rogue feral is boom
winter spindle
Why are Prot paladins healing more than my Holy pala?
junior plover
Why are Prot paladins healing more than my Holy pala?
winter spindle
Boomy/hpala vs unholy/prot
winter spindle
I’ve never see so many invulnerabilitys
raven stump
Is that a good 3s comp ? No more disc feral hunter?
i have no idea if its good-were just having fun as friends but i will say having a druid to add to CC and the output of disc/rogue/feral is actually really good. we win a lot of sustained matchups and lose mostly to melee cleave comps. but we've only played 30 games and hit 1400 so were just trying to learn
golden venture
guys how much conquest can we farm this week? Can we buy all the peices that cost less than 1100?
clear pulsar
The 'cap' that goes up is your total earned for the season
You can get 550 per week
If you saved your 550 from week 1, then you can have up to 1100 yes
golden venture
but if i use it i cant farm again 1100 this week then
clear pulsar
Correct
golden venture
ok thanks i got it
clear pulsar
The cap on total earned for the season goes up by 550 each week, but spending your Conquest doesn't lower your count there. If you capped 550 last week and spent 525, your total earned for the season will still be 550 out of 1100 this week
vital parcel
So I went with circle on head for pvp, did I fuck up?
clear pulsar
As what spec?
placid mirage
Do you just have to hit 1600 once to upgrade gear? Or maintain it
devout frost
it wont degrade once u upgrade
vital parcel
Im kinda multispeccing rn, but I've been playing some feral/resto mostly, thinking of switching to balance for fun
devout frost
but u cant upgrade unless u have the rating
clear pulsar
Circle is a good jack of all trades legendary, also bis for feral depending on content/gear/setup/whatever
It's consistent value in pvp
vital parcel
Yea, but is the head alright?
clear pulsar
But I don't think it's very good for resto
vital parcel
I just took it there since wowhead said so lol, but now I realise maybe chest would be better idk
clear pulsar
Yeah sure, whatever slot would be a bigger upgrade is fine, and helm has a lot of stat budget so that being your legendary would be preferable
You can't craft Circle on chest
noble quail
I wish swift mend legendary worked without hots on the target
jovial veldt
I mean you’re extending nothing and healing for nothing so technically it does work.
clear pulsar
Damn facts
forest kite
Can someone teach me how to play balance in arena?
devout frost
Prowl > CA > Convoke will get you to 2.4k rating appearently according to #balance @forest kite
fast vale
😂
devout frost
necro
keen sage
is it better?
chrome panther
yes
surreal echo
Is night fae/convoke still best for feral? Maybe its just me but it doesnt feel worth. any tips if it is still best?
chrome panther
kyrian is best for feral
devout frost
was it ever best
chrome panther
convoke can work but 🤷
surreal echo
maybe not best but for sure pumps when your not being focused (which is rare)
forest kite
@devout frost nah I'm kyrian
fast vale
Never played feral, might give it a go. Enjoyable in arena?
I’m NF gimp
lime light
simp?
devout frost
pimp
fast vale
Gimp
lime light
simps 🚪 👉🏿
wind rock
can anyone recommend a pvp guide for resto?=
fresh estuary
What do you guys recommend as a legendary for 2s (resto druid)
lime light
the one ui get from world boss
remote cave
I might go Kyrian as Feral, Convoke always gets kicked in 2's. Literally no matter how you set it up, someone has an interrupt.
fresh estuary
Is that strong for 2s? Everyone dies with so much burst now, not sure if hots will help
lime light
convoke is op in 2s
remote cave
@lime light it can be, but I feel like Kyrian might be worth it.
tiny oar
some bad rdru
from murica
remote cave
@waxen karma Word, thanks
lime light
some bad rdru
from murica
hexed verge
"Swiftmend no longer consumes a heal over time effect, and extends the duration of your heal over time effects on the target by 8 sec." so this SHOULD extend frenzied regen no?
waxen karma
No. You can’t cast it and stay form and swift end
waxen karma
Possibly
tiny oar
it doesnnt extend frenzy sadly
lime light
sadly?
tiny oar
sadly
lime light
waxen karma
But that’s pretty niche and not worth
tiny oar
lime light
devout frost
should extend frenzy
neat lagoon
hey guys, I was wondering if it's better take big moon talent for pvp instead of solstice, what do u think about it? some tips?
slender geyser
Has there been a final word on the best legendary for resto pvp? Currently using the Dark Titan's Lesson but I am planning on switching to verdant growth, mainly looking at 2v2 and 3v3 arena
neat lagoon
I read some comments people saying cant cast night fae's hability and I have 0 problems to cast it, just wait interrupts fake them and cast
for this same thing maybe it's fine to have it, idk
devout frost
relying on enemy fucking up
urban prism
i see some debate between tree of life and soul of the forest for arenas, which is better or do you switch?
devout frost
depends on enemy comp
clear pulsar
I don't think anyoen considers tree a real talent outside of raid
And maaaaaaybe playing into rogue mage 2s
To heal while avoiding sheeps idk
chrome panther
its good in 2s against mage/rogue and ungabunga cleaves
subtle yacht
I'm trying to get back into pvp as feral, I noticed I have an old macro for quick switch between bear and cat, that's necesary right? Do I keybind this? Curious to what everyone used for that, since I think I should use it a lot
neat lagoon
I dont use macros for switch forms, have all cutouts on bar to change between them
subtle yacht
But is it not still a good thing to have to get out of roots while stancing defensively?
I guess it would only be so because my shape keys are annoying me I guess. I should change that
clear pulsar
You can shift out of roots
But you can not macro it to instantly get back to cat form like you could in the past
Shifting to a form or out of a form puts shapeshifting on global
dusty sphinx
You can't reshift into the same form without gcd anymore. You can switch from one form to another, though
subtle yacht
Ok, thank you
dusty sphinx
Bear > gcd > Bear > gcd.
Bear > Cat > gcd
clear pulsar
Yeah you can cancel form and shift to a different form on same global, which is essentially the same as just pressing bear form while you're in cat, or whatever else
obtuse ice
how do u open chest
clear pulsar
Just click it
obtuse ice
i have to open it troguhht the command?
obtuse ice
idk where is vault man
clear pulsar
obtuse ice
Oribos?
tiny oar
ill pray for u ele man
clear pulsar
I'm sure you can ask a guard in Oribos and they'll tell you
patent dove
obtuse ice
fook
pine pecan
what feral leggo for pvp?
chrome panther
symm
tiny oar
I'm sure you can ask a guard in Oribos and they'll tell you
But wheres the npc to tell me where the guards are ?? 
clear pulsar
tender flame
Gonna be leveling a horde druid. Regular tauren or highmountain tauren better?
stray ravine
@chrome panther I have no lego right now but 2k Soul, should i save for rank 3 Sym next week or buy apex rank 1, then sym next week?
lime light
my weapon is 184
chrome panther
🤣
warm hatch
Guys excuse me for the noob question but what is the secondary stats priority for feral and balance for pvp
clear pulsar
Vers #1
Then mastery for feral, haste for boomie
Vers mastery shouldn't be too bad for boomie either
Just slower cyclones etc
warm hatch
great thank you very very much!
tough bluff
@tender flame iirc regular better cuz stomp > charge but i could be wrong
pine pecan
what situations do i choose between symmetry or predator (feral legos) in?
also is draught of deep focus worth making for 40% rip/rake dmg?
tough bluff
no to draught
symmetry > predator overall because it is reliable unlike predator
alternative leggo option is the tank bark leggo, sacrifices dps but is crazy survivability
hoary ledge
Yo torghast is so hard now wtf
tropic kiln
It is.
hoary ledge
Like floor 2 layer 8 sin bolt boss as a boomy xD like impossible
tropic kiln
Just ragequit a lvl 5.
tough bluff
@hoary ledge i think the only way to live against those is to line them iirc
tough bluff
i barely cleared layer 6 last week as feral i'm afraid of 7/8
tough bluff
i was struggling with the stupid blob that only has 2 abilities besides auto attack: bite and spraying slime. bites were hitting me for 3/4 my health near the end it was nuts
novel sky
Oh the splitting guy?
tough bluff
no
tropic kiln
I 100% went bear for Tor after struggling with Feral. No shame. It was a slog but w/e, it got the job done.
tough bluff
there's another slime
just bites and shoots out green puddles to dodge
basic af but he was hitting so hard
novel sky
Ahhh I think I fought him a different week
tough bluff
@tropic kiln i couldnt clear floor 2 on layer 6 as bear, the end of floor elite got too many stacks before i could kill him and slapped my ass
cunning sedge
hey guys looking for stats weights for feral in pvp; is haste kinda as good as master or crit ?
forest kite
Aim is 20+ Versa I think
muted niche
frosty shard
They buffed torghast more health against healer que and way more Dmg in tank spec
Tank que
Legit need to use mass root and run and heal constantly. And clear every floor 💯 to get every buff possible
forest kite
Tank damage increase is broken
queen drift
Did u guys try Verdant Infusion for pvp?
forest kite
I can't catweave without getting hit for 25 percent of my hp
queen drift
How does it feel?
forest kite
On layer 8
frosty shard
I ran layer 8 with feral
Got to last boss
And couldn't interrupt his volley enough
forest kite
Barely managed layer 7 with 1 death left
But I'm PvP only so 186 ilvl
With a duelist item and lego
forest kite
Did u guys try Verdant Infusion for pvp?
I don't have the soul ash for it yet
surreal echo
They buffed torghast more health against healer que and way more Dmg in tank spe...
Would you say resto is easier then dps?
clear pulsar
You guys be careful, mods hate offtopic conversation in inappropriate channels
frosty shard
Would you say resto is easier then dps?
Nah going resto just gives adds huge health pools
terse orbit
did they make it harder for guardian too?
hoary ledge
What have you guys been doing vs mind games + UA? We’re running boomy war hpal rn and that seems to give our healer the biggest problem
crimson plume
Bro’s - playing balance... if I missed out on boat is it worth crafting dreambinder?
forest kite
What have you guys been doing vs mind games + UA? We’re running boomy war hpal r...
Never dispel UA, if the combo is on healer it's big Def time, if it's not just DPS and no healing so you don't kill yourself
hasty dome
My rsham partner with 20% vers got crit by UA dispell for 17k
forest kite
There should be only 1 scenario in which shadowcleave can get full dots on healer, and that's on fear push in, that's when you have to kick UA and VT
forest kite
My rsham partner with 20% vers got crit by UA dispell for 17k
Yea they made it so you don't dispel it in SL, it doesn't even cost a shard to apply anymore, they can just spam it
hasty dome
Seems fair...
hoary ledge
Yeah build Dreambinder for sure bro
forest kite
It is fair in this meta. If it ever slows down back to dampening meta it won't be fair
sage ridge
Man I want to play feral with my disc friend and was looking forward to getting Symmetry lego today for that...happened to miss it first week now I still can't get it
why make it random
random patrol
BOAT is fun but go with Dreambinder and maybe Life and Death
forest kite
Which one is dreambinder again?
hoary ledge
Stacking % Damage and reduced cost on starsurge and starfall casts
Stacks 2x
With Kyrian + fury of elune + badge it’s like 5 surges and the last 3 are super buffed
forest kite
Ye boomkin are in a nice place, it's just a shame all of the burst is instant cast, seems like questionable design. But then again, mages can do it too I guess
hoary ledge
Yeah I mean combust lol
forest kite
And ele sham xd
rancid bay
2v2
rancid bay
just as i thought
forest kite
If you're necro it's disgusting
forest kite
Next week I'll test verdant infusion, I need to know how does it interact with the swiftmend conduit, and with adaptive swarm
languid knot
whats feral druids stats order for pvp?
acoustic nebula
Verse, mast,
clear pulsar
Next week I'll test verdant infusion, I need to know how does it interact with t...
There is nothing different about the conduit with or without the legendary. The conduit is garbage.
crimson plume
See in the balance forum here they rec’d pulsar legendary... but on the pvp side would dreambinder do better?
forest kite
There is nothing different about the conduit with or without the legendary. The ...
Have you been playing with infusion already?
I know that conduit is garbage atm, but I wouldn't call it out of the meta for sure
hoary ledge
Yeah Azot
crimson plume
I see Chanimal put binder on his drood - think I’ll follow suit
clear pulsar
I haven't made it yet, just relaying the info from my friend's testing. It'll pick the same heal over time effect that it would consume without the legendary and just add the heal. It's trash because with Verdant Infusion, you'll pretty much always have Regrowth up right? And Regrowth is the first hot it'll try to grab for Swiftmend/conduit. Which means it's the weakest hot, it ends up being 500-700 extra healing on a Swiftmend depending on ilvl of the conduit. @forest kite
If you can Swiftmend a target consuming a fresh Rejuv then it's a lot more healing from the conduit, but that's not gonna happen much at all with Verdant Infusion just extending your Regrowth forever
forest kite
No you won't have regrowth always up, except against melee cleaves
hoary ledge
Dreambinder is goated
clear pulsar
Between Overgrowth, NS instant Regrowths, and the legendary extending them, you rly should have Regrowth up a lot.
hoary ledge
Prepare to absolutely melt
forest kite
Rmx, ele teams, turbo, any sp team, they all purge your shit and then not let you cast
Also Cupid with disc
If you can pve you're right, but might as well play the clear cast regrowth conduit at that point
The conduit that reduces NS cd is underwhelming imo
stone nest
Vers>haste>mas>
I’m likening twos way more than 3s atm
Soloed a shitty ret as an rdruid today as guardian aff lol
limpid kraken
2s imo you have at least some control over the fight where in 3s you are fighting so much to catch up from behind on healing imo
once NS and swiftmend are down, i start panicking. i think if theres gona be any succesfull rdruid 3s comps right now it would be something heavily CC focused, such as maybe RMD. However, RMP is prob still a better comp unfort, but maybe some god druid can make it work with some offensive convoke usage?
feral aff convoke def pumps
pliant abyss
stone nest
I’ve been playing around with flourish as an in between swiftmend oh shit button and it helps a bit.
formal mango
What's everyone's tactics for surviving sub rogue openers (currently running resto druid /arms warrior ) and 9 / 10 times for me the sub rogue opener just gibs me.
finite torrent
Best leggo for pvp feral?
stone nest
Prehot, guardian, barkskin, trinket if low, roar and frenzy
Well honed conduit is a god send
Literally game changing for resto
formal mango
Oh, yeah i'm doing all of that short of well honed, have an epic one, might as well try it out, probably give me just enough to get a ns off after all the stuns
formal mango
Yeah, trying to get my warrior to intervene faster, but it's hard because he like to open with trinket / ww
stone nest
I usually stay stealthed in 2s against a sub. I’ve literally had a sub stay stealthed the whole game while my war kills his partner.
jaunty fog
@finite torrent seen most go fearful symmetry
formal mango
cool @stone nest got some good stuff to try out now, thanks
stone nest
Gl
If hots fall off while youre stealthed and the sub opens on your war you have to overgrowth cause the rogue will pop duel or smoke and it’s over. Biggest tip I have. @formal mango
That’s all I got for ya
blissful belfry
your war can live off a duel with sub, at least mine always does
stone nest
Maybe mine hasn’t been parrying or dstancing
high swan
How do I not get 1 shot as resto
high swan
Ah
blissful belfry
with the nerf that happened with reset, i dont get one shotted anymore. the removal of initial dampening and the reduction of one shot kill potential from some spec (sub mostly) i've found myself living off pretty much every opener
stone nest
I wasn’t getting one shot from them last week. But that was after I got well honed and crafted oath.
blissful belfry
yeah, im a boomy main so i only have a boomy leggo and didnt run honed
but now am fine. If i wanna push 2100 i'll need mah leggo tho
vital parcel
what is feral stat bis?
stray sigil
vers > mas > crit > haste
vital parcel
thx
balmy leaf
head or finger piece for the circle of life and death legendary?
eager meadow
LF Resto druid to play arena with. 2450/2600 warlock back in the day. Haven't played in a while but heavily getting back into it. looking for any resto druids. I'm down for fun games or try hard games. Please let me know
radiant ether
im looking for prior stats, legendary and conduits for resto PVP druid, is hard cuz i just found for raid or mythics
feral urchin
ret
frosty ravine
I saved all soulash since week 1, finally decided to try Circle of Life and Death cause I have this fantasy of dotting everything up and having a more impactful starfall aswell (also I am necrolord =swarm and love RBG and rot-combs in arena).
Also it could have small impact if I wanted to heal mythics or am I delusinal with my decision on the leggie for pvp?
Regards, the undecisive
I know its not the main go to neither is necrolord, but it could work right?
Its a whole lot of money and ash Imma bout to burn 🙂
fading goblet
Is either Apex or Curio worth it while I wait for symmetry next week? Don't really mind having only 190 atm
tidal linden
pending I dont get lucky and either or appear in the vault... 2H staff vs 1H/OH for someone that will play both resto and balance?
stark lion
Thoughts on the best leggies for RBGS?
devout frost
maybe include spec
stray ermine
How is draught for pvp?
stray ermine
damn well i guess ill wait for next week to hopefully get symmetry
twin ermine
best conduits for boomie in arenas? thx in advance
jaunty obsidian
how is oath of elder druid as legendary? still garbage?
devout frost
how is oath of elder druid as legendary? still garbage?
ask @tiny oar theyre the elder druid expert
obtuse ice
Mdr
warm frost
@vestal citrus would you take a crit/vers piece over a pvp trinket from the vault
Even though I’d eventually have to replace the crit/vers with vers haste
I got chest and bracers crit/vers
Then the medallion
But I’m Kyrian and want to make dreambinder chest
Considering going NF though
Yeah that’s what i was thinking
Just seemed awkward to pass on the bigger stat upgrades
clear pulsar
You think in pve too? Or only pvp?
errant sky
Is Resto as bad as everyone is saying?
novel sky
it doesnt feel great
clear pulsar
The change to dampening starting at 0 in 2s is good for resto
I think in 3s it might be sucks
Tbh
novel sky
idk hots feel terrible
worthy field
With the legendary that extends the duration of HoTs I think HoTs feel really strong. I can sometimes just have 6 hots on a spriest/warlock getting trained down by a warrior/monk and they are mostly fine. Rogue burst/ret/marks type burst on a fresh target is a different story of course.
When you have a sotf rejuv, cenarion ward, lifebloom, then your 3 junk HoTs their to boost mastery, the healing is pretty nutty.
Having all of them at such high duration allows for easy regrowth spam too. Playing without that legendary makes you need so many globals to refresh HoTs. That's when it can get dicey.
I'm nightfae too, can't imagine their strength with necrolord.
upbeat marten
sooo.. would you say resto druid is a good duo for war now? or would something like mw be stronger
bitter mountain
druid/war has always been good, and always will be
though i'm sure there are better comps at the moment
if your warrior has condemn and he can pump hard you can do well
clear pulsar
Mistweaver would most definitely not be stronger
daring canyon
Bah crafted the 210 dreambinder chest last week but I have regrets as I think to like playing feral better - how much would I gimp myself crafting a 190 feral lego this week instead of upgrading my chest?
lean forge
Balance of time still decent for balance in pvp? what slot should i be using up for the lego, on my server umbra chest is like half the rest
clear pulsar
I think in pve the idea generally is that it's better to have a bis legendary for each fight/content than to have a middle ground one upgraded once or twice more
sick bear
what are most people running for legendary for balance pvp
prime halo
does anyone know if balance convoke will try to hit cycloned targets? I know it doesn’t do rooted ones
sick bear
yea it will cast at cloned targets
slate minnow
Is the venthyr ability ever viable in pvp or do you just paint a big "stun me" target on your head
lean forge
ok thanks, ill use chest for now save some gold until upgrades
clear pulsar
Alright time to tear up the ladder with Moonfires boys
tiny oar
clear pulsar
Boat is a gimmick that works for now
Dreambinder is generally the reliable good choice
Supatease plays necrolord circle boomie too
For some reason
indigo forum
I have found good success with it but i havent tried others
Its annoying when you cant cast much though
Also is everyone running incarn?
clear pulsar
Yeah that's the issue with boat rly
You can't always hardcast to setup a burst window
But it does slay when you pop incarn
It's absurd sometimes
indigo forum
Ye but when u can it feels good, incarn plus convoke is so goooood with the crits
But i want to try weaver aswell
wanton parcel
I can't seem to find the blue post that stated that great value pvp items won't overlap if you already own an item in that slot. is this correct?
clear pulsar
I don't remember a post saying that tbh
wanton parcel
could've swore a i seen something like thiat
lime light
All i see is a necrolord simp
proper moss
Anyone got any good resources for playing resto in pvp?
stone nest
Anyone got any good resources for playing resto in pvp?
Mmarkers is the streamer I’ve got the most info from. His vods are solid
flat lark
oak canyon
latent dirge
does druid still FC?
winter pollen
so if you get combatant and lose it you can still upgrade conquest with honor right
winter pollen
wait so if I lose combatant i cant upgrade conquest anymore?
isnt that counter intuitive?
forest kite
The vendor requires you to actively have the rank to upgrade your gear to that level.
tepid spoke
pretty sure they stealth nerfed convoke
winter pollen
wait, i just upgraded my weapon to 207 at 1397 conquest, but i didnt lose combatant
im confused
at 1397 rating*
winter pollen
What's the grace range?
winter pollen
Isn't that counter inuitive?
Like what's stopping me from stopping que's now
and just doing bg's, waiting till i get all 207
clear pulsar
Nothing!?
I don't understand what you're trying to say, or what issue you find with it
winter pollen
I'm saying if you lose combatant, it discourages you from continuing to que rated
I don't think that's right
clear pulsar
Only if you don't want to actually play arena
I mean
If you lose combatant, wouldn't it encourage you to get it back again?
Like the very point of a rating system and a ladder is for people to want to climb and see colored number go up
eternal charm
Im deleting my druid, 40 arenaa, 39 loses, 1 win
clear pulsar
eternal charm
Sucks playing kyrian for pvp
clear pulsar
pretty sure they stealth nerfed convoke
What makes you say that broski
marsh dew
should NF balance weigh mastery over haste?? (since haste doesnt affect convoke)
stone nest
Imagine losing 99% of your matches and blaming the class.
random patrol
I stack haste to 20 then mastery
and vers on each piece
try to avoid any crit pieces if I can
unkempt scroll
can someone drop me a cyclone focus macro
stray sigil
/cast [@vale flax] cyclone
surreal heron
unkempt scroll
ty ty
placid mirage
Was so happy I found a chill dude to play low cr with so many of the group finders are like entry level job need 5 years xp
sacred flint
hey guys
when should I be using convoke as feral?
feel like if I open with it
its trash right?
just gets kicked
in 2s btw not 3s
rain gate
As a kyrian balance druid which legendary should i craft? Timeworn Dreambinder or Balance of All Things?
frosty ravine
Glyph is here 😍🙏🏼 Glyph in your youtube from November you rank Circle of Life and Death second for pvp and talk about the synergies with Necrolord (I am necro playing balance atm).
Do you still feel the same or has current meta surprised you? I saved all my ash since week one and havent crafted yet. Wanna do it today thp just for the flat stat upgrade.
brazen mantle
Kyrian or Night Fae Balance Druid? I'm leaning toward Kyrian
fiery thicket
Its more fun :)
brazen mantle
Rly? I've heard a lot of ppl saying that Kyrian is BIS
fiery thicket
Kyrian is boring tho
forest kite
Do ya know witch legendary is the best for pvp ?
rain gate
Kyrian vs Night fae has it up and downs.
forest kite
i am resto
fiery thicket
No clue tbh, the swiftmend one sounds good tho
edgy oxide
just because i'm here, the swiftmend one is most likely what you'd be running
also for @brazen mantle
forest kite
ok thx
edgy oxide
check the pins, glyph put a guide in there
rain gate
Kryian buff can be purged and Nightfae can be kicked. Really up to you. Nightfae pretty good for feral as it's single target. Boomkin nightfae though will hit everything in range so the damage can be random at times.
brazen mantle
Choice is now clear to me. NF seems rly good as feral but I'm going Kyrian Balance Druid for the reliability. Ty for the info!
fast vale
Is there any decent feral pvp guide? Basic setup stuff and playstyle
obtuse ice
Yes
fresh estuary
Where should I put the swiftmend legendary as resto druid? Hands or shoulder? Or it doesn't matter?
fast vale
Where ele? Pins just seem to be balance and not really anything playstyle related there
static orbit
For 2s is swiftmend better than oath as healer ?
scarlet heron
Can anyone give me insight as decent 2's and 3's comps for boomy or direct me where to look thanks
inner remnant
for 3s some good comps include boomy/rogue/hpal or rsham, ww/boomy/healer, boomy/mage/healer
or boomy/spriest/healer
scarlet heron
thankyou
inner remnant
np
im gonna pick up my first legendary rn. anyone got recommendations for boomy leggo for RBGs?
scarlet heron
I just made my BoAT its very fun with convoke
inner remnant
yeah i see a lot of people running that
but i also see people running the celestial alignment one too after you spend 300 astral power
forest kite
@fast vale check snupy on youtub, he uploaded one yday
cinder dirge
Is this % true to drop Memory of a Symmetrical Eye?
chrome panther
its pretty cool being able to tank rogue opener with 0 defensives
literally press hots, jump around and spam /spit
feels gud
wind rock
Is boomkin with boat actually just CA+Convoke in low CR arenas
Use Convoke with CA and ggs
manic radish
yup
ive got 20-0 ish this morning
went up to 1600
some of them my arena buddy didnt even touch an ability or moved at all
its pretty degenerate
wind rock
I might actually do that, I play balance in pve and usually resto in PvP but with boatvoke being like that I might actually push some rating as boomie
What's the "right" setup for that? I have never played boomkin in PvP
Guess root/beam into CA/boatvoke?
devout frost
What's the "right" setup for that? I have never played boomkin in PvP
Prowl > Incarn > Convoke
barren acorn
I can't do this combo anymore above 1.6 CR. Everyone seems to expect it and cc me and have some cd ready
devout frost
yes that is kinda expected from anyone with a brain
ebon patio
Restealth
warm hatch
hey guys wanted to share this macro with you for all who has problems targeting the Podtender (Nightfae seed/cocoon)
/target Podtender
keen sage
what legendary should i go for pvp
devout frost
maybe include spec
keen sage
resto
devout frost
verdant
formal sparrow
as someone who only plays bear, is there any trick to 2v2 arenas? I like to play them casually with a friend but we want to get the spider. Currently the plan is I go in as bear, and once they focus me he jumps someone and I cyclone the other... but that's about as far as we get
