It's likely visual bug
#pvp
clear pulsar
humble inlet
exactley
tardy hare
fuck knows then
clear pulsar
We'll see when US servers back
humble inlet
well here is hoping i guess 🙂
chrome panther
its a visual bug, mine said 226
plain crane
im pretty sure the blue post meant as of today we can start getting 226
pretty sure it capped vault at 220 but well c
clear pulsar
Stop thinking
For this first week of the Season in PvP, item-level upgrades of Conquest equipment are capped at item level 220, requiring Rival (rank 4). Starting with the second week, (again that’s December 15 in this region), item level upgrades of Conquest equipment are uncapped. There are no caps on the Great Vault’s PvP considerations. Duelists (rank 5) or higher will receive item level 226 equipment from the Great Vault.
This is how it's written, there is no room for ambiguity
plain crane
could be as of dec 15 no cap, we shall c
clear pulsar
forest kite
Aye, basically the only thing that was capped was the hypothetical neck/ring/trinket that you could've purchased on heroic week
If you also pushed
plain crane
the real question is
clear pulsar
You can just upgrade anything regardless
plain crane
does any1 know if the vault rewards are upgradable
forest kite
This week, yes
forest kite
Any conquest gear should be upgradable
forest kite
If it doesn't the system is terrible
plain crane
would be kinda wonky thats for sure, doubt it tho
the real question is...are BOAT nerfs enough to make timeworn > BOAT in terms of legendary for balance
forest kite
There's no way it isn't upgradable man
chrome panther
timeworn was already better than boat.
plain crane
thats what i thought but a shitton of people rockin BOAT on ladder
chrome panther
because they pve also
forest kite
Which one is timeworn again?
plain crane
stacking 10% starsurge
forest kite
Rdruid here
plain crane
2x stack
forest kite
Kk
plain crane
its a boomy one
chrome panther
convoke doesn't work past 2k and boat without convoke isn't good.
plain crane
another question
true i suppose theyre wombo-ing with convoke
i wonder if kyrian loses value now that pelagos got halved in mastery
or doesnt matter same shit
forest kite
I mean, if you proc eclipses with 100 ap you can do really consistent gos
forest kite
With boat
plain crane
i just mean if its enough to swap from kyrian
chrome panther
with kyr you have a dependable go every minute with root/beam/badge/kyr
with convoke you have memes
forest kite
Ah yes, I thought you were talking about the boat lego
chrome panther
but, if you pve at all, stay nf. its fucking like 20% ahead the other covs
plain crane
hmmm idk if i should all in rank 3 timeworn
or make a lvl 1 boat
hmmmm
i guess ilvl diff isnt much
rustic totem
make a boat
forest kite
Which world boss is up this week?
plain crane
and effects dont scale anyways
rustic totem
its fun to evaporate people
plain crane
lolll
forest kite
I'm still waiting for my resto lego
chrome panther
Which world boss is up this week?
dont know yet
forest kite
Playing rdruid without the swiftmend legendary is really shitty in 3s
coarse ferry
arenas are shitty all last week
forest kite
I had my fun, but having swiftmend remove a hot is really terrible, with how fast paced arenas are. We're too vulnerable to swaps
coarse ferry
Nobody likes 40min damp games; but nobody also likes 1 shots burst with no counter play unless your disc (and someitmesHpal) either
stone nest
I for one will miss our rogue overlords.
forest kite
Well, thats not really going to change that much, which is totally fine by me, next week.
coarse ferry
I have found RBGs to be a good blend of faced paced fun this season though. I've enjoyed the return way more than I thought I would
plain crane
i dont think the sub nerfs were huge tbh
they only rly nerfed kyrian
theyll still be strong af
coarse ferry
sub rogue opening is nerfed
its at least counter playable now
thats all we wanted
plain crane
tru
forest kite
Rogues will just test other specs now, they'll be fine
tidal linden
Boomy leg for pvp boat?
stone nest
Well it’s their only damage window. It’s not like they were a problem outside of the opener
plain crane
i made timeworn, 80% of EU made timeworn, lotta NA made BOAT
but also boat just got nerfed so idk
forest kite
Haven't seen outlaw yet.
hardy cargo
So, since more people are on now, is arms/rdruid(i can also offspec to dps) a decent comp? Got a buddy who plays arms.
coarse ferry
rdruid is rough
plain crane
ya why not kes
clear pulsar
Arms is insane
plain crane
its rough but if theyre slowing down openers might be better
hardy cargo
Oh ik being a healer is rough, I run feral affinity though, if thats good
coarse ferry
arms/monks/dks melee cleave etc have damn near 100% uptime with no escape as an rdruid
clear pulsar
Yeah it's good for healers that don't have insane DRs like hpala and disc
stone nest
The largest issue that doesn’t get brought up enough is off healing being insane
coarse ferry
evasive healers like rdruid and monks still going to be rough to play
plain crane
ya ofc, but theyll only get better with season
hardy cargo
Oh I'm prepared to be raped by dks and monks lol
plain crane
tbh stacking some endurance conduits and shit are pretty OP
forest kite
Arms is good now, but traditionally rdruid is good in 2s with surv hunter. You can do long chain ccs, now that healers are back in 2s with dampening being removed
hardy cargo
Ah, thats the difficult thing, buddy only plays warrior and paladin sooo
forest kite
Arms rdruid is totally fine
plain crane
^
youll be fine
go play arms rdruid
wasnt fury meta in 2s at some point?
might look into that idk this season
hardy cargo
Aight, ty! Just wanted to know if its a horrible idea and I should switch to offspec lol
clear pulsar
Arms has insane peels now compared to BFA too
clear pulsar
Lets you play maybe more aggro than you would with something else
coarse ferry
arms/rdruid is good. The biggest problem with rdruid is you can't escape or peel the melee cleaves in this current meta
and damage is just so high you'll eventually melt even playing well
plain crane
true, but the upside is if you can even remotely play it now
hardy cargo
Well I was kinda thinking
coarse ferry
it is a good season to practice your juking in for sure
forest kite
It won't slow down that much
plain crane
it will, look at some of the endurance conduits
if you double stack
can be op thicc
hardy cargo
He can stun/burst main target and I got convoke feral affin burst(i can always switch to another affin if needed). If all goes well that'd be one dead.
forest kite
On beta people have been testing with full bis gear, and it was fast paced
plain crane
on beta they had 1shot pve trinkets
forest kite
With full conduits
plain crane
so not a great indicator
coarse ferry
if you're resto grind RBGs for your rating imo
plain crane
im already playing games that last 2-3 minutes in 3s
coarse ferry
if you're not 2k~ player in arena
forest kite
Those trinkets will be used in PvP as well, 50% nerf didn't stop drest it won't stop the new stuff
Either
coarse ferry
2ks will hit 2ks still so not an issue there; if you're new or learning practice with arena and push RBGs for your upgrades
clear pulsar
Especially if you have 100% crit conditions like rogues and boomies
coarse ferry
10%crit+boat 😛
plain crane
i aint no boat
hardy cargo
I'm not like super into pvp(buddy is) but he asked me to do 2s with him, but ty everyone for the advice! I'll try to get more practice in on arenas
plain crane
gl matey
clear pulsar
Arena feels super weird and hectic at first but once you get used to looking at the things you need to look at, it's a lot more manageable bro
remote cave
@hardy cargo Good luck 🙂
clear pulsar
Keep at it
coarse ferry
glgl good season to learn; if you pick up these bursty seasons you'll only improve faster imo
plain crane
arena = literally spam 10000000000 games to understand it
just play and play and play
it makes more sense
coarse ferry
push RBGs for personal gear upgrades
clear pulsar
Yeah it's all about getting used to the pace and the situations you find yourself in
Knowing the cds and what you need to use to survive certain moments
coarse ferry
you can 2k pug RBG as resto much easier
hardy cargo
Oh I figured, no point in watching people do it when that won't be my own personal learning lol
plain crane
also when you get globaled
or 1shot
look thru details/log
see whats doing it
so u avoid next time
remote cave
@plain crane Good point, I need to start doing that as well.
forest kite
Which covenant you playing Kestrel?
plain crane
things dont randomly happen in arena
its all about X used, how to counter with Y
etc
coarse ferry
counter play is kinda low atm though so be warned there
hardy cargo
Which covenant you playing Kestrel?
Nightfae, I do pve, especially dgns so gotta get that convoke healing
Any other cov is a throw in pve lol
coarse ferry
in 3's just work on running away; you'll spend 90% of the match just running and rarely tossing heals to your teammates from my experience lol
forest kite
You can do sick set ups with feral affinity stuns and convoke in 2s
Even as resto, just channel it in cat form
coarse ferry
maybe not so much at low rating where the melee trains dont choo choo down your throat
hardy cargo
Throw for resto though,not feral
hardy cargo
Even as resto, just channel it in cat form
Thats what I want to do! Have warrior bait trink with stun then we both global someone with rake stun convoke
hardy cargo
Oh if it means anything, I'm a night elf too, shadowmeld
coarse ferry
war fear then; then convoke his dps target
hardy cargo
I'm sorry
All my friends play alli😔
Got people i pve with and they don't play horde, never have lol
coarse ferry
RBGs are pretty fun to learn some pvp in at the moment; its not as burst as arena for the most part. You usually have 3 other healers to help as well
remote cave
Wow gods, please open the Servers 😦
chrome panther
rbgs youll have easier success playing boomie imo
literally just press starfall in a stacked boomie group
coarse ferry
rdruid really shines in RBGs as well. pre-tranq before fights+WG+florish with a shaman pretty much counters all the boomie groups pressure
hardy cargo
literally just press starfall in a stacked boomie group
I'm just a weirdo who sticks to healers and barely ever switches though
coarse ferry
it also counters all the rot comps
add a disc in and 3 boomkins arent even enough pressure for your raid
since disc can cover the TC targets on your team
I mean it is pressure still; but its easily managed. You aren't going to just fall over fights are usually stalls until people people for other objectives
chrome panther
healers oom is the thing
idk if we just faced shitters all day but 3 boom/2spriest/2 rogue was free wins all day
hardy cargo
^ long fights i end up ooming at some point
coarse ferry
use that innervate on cd 😛
coarse ferry
your boomies should be innervating your shaman/disc as well
even when we get low we can still sprint+stealth away for a few sips after a convoke+wg stacked florish for some sips
hardy cargo
Sprint away
keen sage
are afflic warlock good with druid
hardy cargo
When you can just shadowmeld
coarse ferry
Im horde so meld isnt a thing 😛
sage ridge
coarse ferry
@keen sage 2's or 3's? 3's they are good. 2's is hard with the melee pressure at the moment but do-able. monks would be awful for that team comp to fight lol
stone nest
I messed around with 2s last night and found it significantly easier. But it was low brackets
fringe mauve
I think if ur alliance Epic Bgs are way faster for honor
seems these matches now are like 10 min tops
coarse ferry
RBGs for honor all day
fringe mauve
how much those give?
hoary ledge
honestly you get so much honor just from spamming arena
coarse ferry
I've made like 50k gold just off playing RBGS and buying/upgrading/selling the off-hands lol
hardy cargo
I'll probably just spam arenas and learn as i go. Alliance bgs(non rated ones) are something very....special.
fringe mauve
Plus I been able to get my Tour of Duty shadowlands by doing Epic Bgs
coarse ferry
tons of yolo rbgs this season and you'll at least hit 1600 there in yolo no mic groups
fringe mauve
apparently when you win you get 1000 honor, and if you turn in the quest in one of the shadowland areas, like Rivendale and your in warmode. It counts as 1000 honor earned in that zone
hoary ledge
xd
chrome panther
Yup, it does. Ez way to get that achiev every reset
coarse ferry
its an easy way for medicore upgrades and vault until you break 1800-2.1k in arenas or voice com rbgs
hoary ledge
I'm out here ganking level 58's for honor in zones lol
fringe mauve
is that a weekly thing AA Varugh?
hoary ledge
for that specific achieve^
hardy cargo
its an easy way for medicore upgrades and vault until you break 1800-2.1k in are...
Keep in mind im also doing pve. I do alot of m+
Gear won't be as much of a problem outside trink
fringe mauve
what the dungeon that lets you duel someone on your team?
hardy cargo
Theater
coarse ferry
@hardy cargo you'll want two sets of gear though before long. Vers makes a HUGE difference; not sure about the trinket set bonus though over pve
hardy cargo
The raid boss one
fringe mauve
yeah poor guys just get a convoke to the face
everytime
hmm so I need a Rated Battleground guild
coarse ferry
the difference in my 19% vers set and 6%vers pve set is night and day at the same ilvl
hardy cargo
<@!457104429712408577> you'll want two sets of gear though before long. Vers mak...
Oh I know vers is huge, just starting off I can manage with what I got though, I believe
hardy cargo
yeah poor guys just get a convoke to the face
Theaters a painful dungeon, dont ever heal it lmao
coarse ferry
hmm so I need a Rated Battleground guild
just do the yolo queues if you want honor/low rank farm. no mic yolo you can get 1600 easy. I wouldnt be surprised if you can go 1800 in yolos tbh
surreal heron
I didn't even conjure the one for feral, no way I know the others
fringe mauve
I leveld two horde two alliance, alliance won most the Epic Battle grounds, and those guys pretty much took 10 hours to get from fresh 60 to 184
the horde is a bit different longer Ques, and they kinda suck at Epic BGs
coarse ferry
a lot of people are just doing yolo RBGs now; the queue pops for those are about 1min~. Its faster than normal/epic rbg ten fold
fringe mauve
what are yolo RBGs?
coarse ferry
go to rated pre-made groups in the pvp group finder; select rated battle ground
hardy cargo
Well, atleast in yolos I won't get fresh max levels right😓
coarse ferry
"yolo" groups are people just queuing in place of BGs more or less. No rating/expereince required to join, no voice coms etc
fringe mauve
AND U got ur raiting up doing that also?
clear pulsar
I didn't even conjure the one for feral, no way I know the others
It's like 3 messages down from the one I tagged you in
coarse ferry
most just require ilvl of like 180~ not even vers gear
clear pulsar
Rank 1 / Gladiator streams
Resto: Minpojke, FlopDru, Metaphorsx, LuuxiA
Balance: Corkiri, Graycen, Supatease, Maro, Chanimaly, Glyph630 (not really but I have to include him)
Feral: ilovelucy_, tonyferalmovies, Snupy, SyfoxE, Axtin, Bean
@surreal heron here
fringe mauve
do we get more conquest for higher raiting?
robust flare
Does anyone have a script to reorder my raid frames in arena to force me at the bottom (target 2) ?
wide wagon
i dont stream and have 180 pvp rating i think ive earned my spot on that list
keen vault
SortGroup addon
coarse ferry
no; you get like 250-300 a win or something in RBGs though conquest wise, I got 1k honor from one of them
robust flare
@keen vault thank you~!
lime light
surreal heron
Why
surreal heron
I don't know what makes you think that
coarse ferry
supatease not bringing the guardian back to arenas? 
surreal heron
Who
sleek basalt
Best Conquest Gear Boomy should get first? Should I save for wep?
chrome panther
supatease not bringing the guardian back to arenas? <:Kappa:264558551257579542>
he went boomie after bitching about them all beta thinking they were garbage?
obtuse ice
Thyme is cute cuz purple
whole prism
what world boss is it?
coarse ferry
he went boomie after bitching about them all beta thinking they were garbage?
guardian off-meta was such cancer. I hope that never returns
lyric basin
ardenweald boss
lyric basin
yea
hardy cargo
Out of curiosity, what leggo are restos running for pvp? I might make a 2nd legendary specifically for pvp.
chrome panther
guardian off-meta was such cancer. I hope that never returns
tankers in 3s should be drawn and quartered 
chrome panther
Out of curiosity, what leggo are restos running for pvp? I might make a 2nd lege...
verdant.
hardy cargo
Ty
coarse ferry
depends content; I like circle/oath for RBGs, circle/verdant for arenas
hardy cargo
Oh, i might craft circle then, its good in m+ for dmg as well
hardy cargo
226 for leggo slot
vast bison
coarse ferry
oath saves lives if you get dk gripped as a target call. It seems tailor made for RBGs and the burst meta 2's if you aren't pushing 2.2k+. 3's not so much.
pine nest
is verdant boss up?
hardy cargo
5??
hardy cargo
Thats like the hunter I ran with who got only gloves from every dgn
novel sky
Based
coarse ferry
oribos loading screen of doom. Lets see if I fall thru the world this week
stone nest
got a weapon boys
novel sky
Gz
stone nest
haste one too
novel sky
Big
hardy cargo
Jelly
hoary ledge
i got a 220 offhand but its crit vers
think i might just take the cape with vers mast
barren violet
Anyone have success with boomy warr healer?
hoary ledge
yeah ill do weekly
random light
is the dps buff boomy gets from kyrian purgable?
Also boomy kyrian is the way to go imo
Also with balance of all things legendary nerf, is it still bis or is something else maybe slightly better?
hoary ledge
dreambinder is better for pvp
patent cradle
gggggggg
waxen elm
is conquest cap really going to be 550 a week..
random light
wow perfect stats, grats!
hoary ledge
I feel like I shouldn't take the crit vers off hand because crit is giga useless and I'll want the haste vers staff anyways
devout frost
@waxen elm that is plenty when u get an item for free every week anyway
stark plover
for conquest items, how much honor is it costing to upgrade them, do we know yet?
stone nest
also swiftmend world boss this week
marsh dew
are people crafting the dreambinder ring to get the fat secondary stats? or chest
hoary ledge
chest
chrome panther
chest every time
marsh dew
semi-related question. can you use the conquest haste/vers ring with the honor one?
i assume so
marsh dew
yeah
fading iris
anyone can check how much honor it costs to upgrade vault pvp gear?
marsh dew
i lucked the fuck out and got staff from vault, so im trying to decide how to spend conquest since i was saving for weapon before
fading iris
im in eu no loot yet
unique forge
My vault options were such shit for Rdruid. I got the wrong legs, the crit 1hander, and the 88haste insignia... which is good, but trinkets are so cheap.
Not sure what to take
novel sky
Whatever gives the most mainstat probably
hardy cargo
Make sure to do world boss and the weekly, even if you only pvp. Can still possibly get big upgrades
fading iris
what do you mean "and the weekly"?
fleet panther
which legendary do we want for boomkin for arena?
fading iris
oO okay thank you
marsh dew
the keystone dungeons count toward weekly or just m0?
shadow creek
hey guys, any websites u use for builds / conduits and stuff for Rdruid pvp
shell geode
just want to confirm, verdant is best for rdruid?
winter pollen
Hey I got the lute in my chest and Im a resto, is there anything stopping me from getting the lute and upgrading an honor mace? Ive always gone for staff as druid and it just feels weird to me to go two hand lol
undone cobalt
whats the best horde race for balance druid?
wanton parcel
can someone help me with the syntax for checking if you're already in moonkin form to not come out of it when using a dps macro?
fading iris
/cast !moonkin form
wanton parcel
hmm, tried it with the ! and it doesn't seem to work. I currently have:
/cast !Moonkin Form
/use 14
/cast Celestial Alignment
quartz pumice
form:4 or noform:4
/cast [nomod,talent:3/1,noform:4] !Moonkin Form;
That checks to see if I have affinity picked as resto and then uses Moonkin form if I do.
jaunty heart
sick got verdent
keen vault
Poggorz Oranonomomo is up
jaunty heart
you guys ever down a world boss while ur on a video call with ur doc for ur annual physical?
quartz pumice
Is verdant the one everyone is going for as resto pvp?
hoary ledge
fk idk what to do with my vault xd
wanton parcel
hmm, so it'd be /cast [noform:4] !Moonkin Form ?
keen vault
Is there a better leggo against purge comps
quartz pumice
@wanton parcel That would check to see if you are in Moonkin Form. If not, casts Moonkin form.
clear pulsar
hmm, tried it with the ! and it doesn't seem to work. I currently have:
/cast !M...
shift click the spell on your spellbook
While you're editing the macro
To write it precisely right
Always works
naive hornet
Anyone have a list of useful macros for balance?
mossy cloud
Hmm which to take? (Resto). The trinket has a use effect that boosts HP by 10k
proper moss
Shoulders or hands to make verdant legendary?
mossy cloud
Is verdant available now?
keen vault
yes
mossy cloud
Thought the world boss wasn’t up til next week
keen vault
it was up last week
keen vault
not sure if loot spec influences it, might be wise to have resto spec selected
livid wasp
jungle feels so bad I feel like everything just bursts our disc down
thin herald
Is there any up to date PvP Guide for boomy? The sticked Guide seems outdatet.
keen vault
youtube supatease
fleet panther
which legendary should I use for boomkin?
stone nest
anyone crafting the swiftmend leggo?
bronze trout
anyone have a preference between verdant and oath for 2's? (rdruid)
chrome panther
anyone crafting the swiftmend leggo?
yup
stone nest
hows it feelin
chrome panther
im gonna go verdant for 2s cuz my giga-chad warrior doesn't need help killing anything
oh i haven't made it yet
suffering through m0s for free heroic loot
stone nest
what slot are you crafting it
clear pulsar
It is done
@stray sigil @rigid linden @obtuse ice @lime light @tiny oar
Elite gives you 233 ilvl upgrade for weapons btw. Only weapons. Mimics what you can get from mythic raid.
tardy hare
Absolutely delusional
I make such epic youtube videos
But even then
Face just forgets me
Big sad
obtuse ice
bcz ure irrlevent
obtuse ice
Link?
tardy hare
obtuse ice
...
tardy hare
Wtf
tardy hare
🙇
stray sigil
obtuse ice
should I downvote
tardy hare
I'll overlay it with default ui next vid
obtuse ice
there is too much thumbup
tardy hare
obtuse ice
for no venthyr
stray sigil
tardy hare
obtuse ice
rigid linden
tardy hare
stray sigil
haste
keen vault
you can get that from vault?
stray sigil
hoary ledge
am i over thinking my vault choice, or is the 220 off hand with crit vers better than a vers mast cloak at 220?
hoary ledge
I'm boomy toh
stray sigil
rich gets richer
and i get a fucking adapt trinket or crit vers ring
@rigid linden fu
lament shore
What's the best legendary for RDruid in PvP right now?
obtuse ice
tidal linden
idk if best but I went with double life bloom legendary 1st for pvp and m+
lament shore
I still haven't been able to get that to drop >.>
tidal linden
I think the one that your dots/hots tick faster is pretty good too
im pvp noob tho too so dont take my advice 🙂
wanton parcel
How will the vault work for this week in terms of rating and Ilvl? If I hit 1600 last week do I just need to win one match at that rank to be eligible for 213 again?
wanton parcel
Ty
clear pulsar
@rigid linden you can upgrade weapon to 233 if you get elite btw
Only weapon
But yeah
stray ermine
stray sigil
remi
clear pulsar
I'm going to need to do pve
TO get circle legendary
Necrolord circle moonfire here I come
stray sigil
ur disgusting bro
tiny oar
Verdant boss
clear pulsar
Yeah verdant boss is up
clear pulsar
The cloak was legit just the same stats I already had but 20 ilvls higher. The ONLY upgrade. The pve items were all garbage and not even upgrades in sims. Bracers and gloves and belt, trash slots, trash stats, less vers than the ones I had equipped. @tiny oar
north grove
for huntsman
winter spindle
The cloak was legit just the same stats I already had but 20 ilvls higher. The O...
Uber bad luck
split lava
Yo dreambinder BIS for balance kyrian pvp righto?
winter spindle
Yo dreambinder BIS for balance kyrian pvp righto?
Yes
novel sky
2k
tiny oar
Xd I'm gonna get 2 weapons in my vault guaranteed
stray sigil
LUL
chrome panther
pretty dumb we're getting mythic END raid weps on day 1
ah well
im just bitter my warrior got a 233 wep and i got 5 cloaks, 3 bracers, and 2 rings to pick from
clear pulsar
Now the loot from pvp is too good
I swear pvpers complain about anything and everything that exists in the game
lone finch
yo guys, I'm playin rdrood/ww/fire mage with my buddies and got a couple of questions:
- is this comp viable?
- does someone have a guide on the playstyle for rdruid in pvp I can look into?
I'm trying to learn the ropes, any help of this sort is much obliged 😄
shell geode
rdruid quesiton. i'm seeing an assortment of legendaries being used. is verdant really the way to go still?
chrome panther
youll find various different opinions
sephuz/oath/verdant/circle are all options
imo you can't go wrong with verdant
keen vault
verdant is nice because it lets you stay aggressive and preserves your mana
saving GCD's is big for clones and other stuff
winter pollen
is vers our best stat in pvp over haste because of the trinkets?
keen vault
because it makes you less squishy
winter pollen
Basically, I got a 200 ilvl off hand from my chest this week, and i usually prefer 2 hands
keen vault
the trinket off kaelthas might be better than the 2set
winter pollen
so it's either pick the off hand or pick a PVE cape/ring though
I also got the trinket that increases intellect on use but I prefer the auto use one to save a hot bar space
keen vault
sometimes the vaults just going to give you suboptimal picks
wouldn't stress about it too much
wanton parcel
Do class-specific conduits work if you have the affinity talent for them?
ie: well-honed instincts as a boomie w/ guardian affinity?
fierce ocean
Is anyone having any luck in arena with necrolord? I use convoke atm and the things I do to people in 50% of games are dirty, but a lot of "guides" etc are saying adaptive swarm gives more consistent results
as balance^^
frank crown
Only need to win 51% of games
Stay convoke
And try to time it better so it doesn't get interrupted
How often are ferals the kill target in 3s? Haven't done much of them
As jungle
jaunty heart
verdants still our 2v2 pick for resto?
keen vault
there might be an argument for oath against purge comps
stone nest
even if you get half the cast off its still alot of spells
keen vault
trying to decide if I should craft verdant r1 and then upgrade to 4
dull aspen
bal one shot macros anyone?
errant sky
Is Resto Druid any better now?
rare drift
can anyone explain me why do they needed to buff this on 20%?
tiny oar
🧠
chrome panther
Just kick it
stray sigil
novel sky
just stay alive
stray sigil
bro i swear every monkey warrior get to 2.4 now
tiny oar
What r they gonna do
tiny bluff
Hoping he meeses up
stray sigil
asking for a friend
tiny bluff
xD
tiny bluff
bear isnt enough, huh?
tiny bluff
only been playing 2s so far
stray sigil
XDXDXDXDDXDXD
XDXDXDXDXD
legit just pops spear grips in my disc
stuns chillstreak
aoe
we all dead
tiny oar
Nice
stray sigil
and nobody can get out other trhan hunter
cuz of legendary on feign
??
what the fuck is this gamepaly
tiny oar
Counterplay is to reroll warr and zug zug harder than them ofc ofc
tiny oar
Gonna b a fun seas
stray sigil
99% ret warrior
or warrior dk
insane
i play with surv hunter too
so we get zugzugd
even harder
tiny oar
Just walk out the spear bro only takes like 6 yoinks 
stray sigil
depressing
tiny bluff
ouch
tiny oar
Sadge
midnight yew
whats the best legendary for feral in pvp?
midnight yew
hmm ok
warm frost
Do I take a 220 crit/vers chest from vault and craft BOAT on legs or take 220 crit vers bracers and craft dreambinder chest
Kinda awkward
Chest and legs is way more main stat
I’m Kyrian so I’m leaning dreambinder
surreal heron
tiny oar
Thank u thyme bless hope u have a good day
junior plover
Symm is the only option for feral imo
maybe sephuz
Apex is like Symm except you cant choose when it procs and worse
small storm
u must really like snupy
junior plover
havent heard his opinion on it
but like
Symm just gives much better setups
Sustained damage literally doesnt matter in this meta so idk where the curio idea comes from
small storm
i mean for the pin, hes in there twice lol
i also didnt see a section for guardian pvp streamers?
tiny oar
surreal heron
oh yeah, syfoxe, bean, and snupy are duplicated @vestal citrus 🙂
tiny oar
Bears:
Supatease
O wow that's literally it done
surreal heron
madmike
stray sigil
its not as big as you guys make it out to be
oh ya
his brain def fried from playing with getrow
tiny bluff
So did anyone find a way to win vs warr?
Feels like it’s also impossible to score a kill when there’s one..
stray sigil
in 2s or 3s
tiny bluff
Yah
stray sigil
mayb run at healers
tiny bluff
Doesn’t feel like there’s ever an opening if he doesn’t feed
stray sigil
whats ur healer ?
stray sigil
disc ?
stray sigil
think u just run laps around warrior
tiny bluff
Pretty much yes
tiny bluff
Currently I’m trying to rot warr teams
tiny bluff
Which works fairly okay
stray sigil
are u nf or kyrian
tiny bluff
Been trying to get those setups
Most are orc though and somehow hold trinket until I use convoke so yeah
Ppl are starting to understand convoke
stray sigil
prob just bang warrior really hard in opener then
with like mindgames and shit
find a way to get his trinket
also maybe if u run at healer and just root/clone him perma
hell get annoyed and trinket clone
and u have a window
cuz honestly rot is not viable atm imo
bleeds do piss dmg
tiny bluff
😂
Rot worked fairly well so far
Im thinking trying to use apex in those games
And pray for profs
Procs
Gonna try ur advice next time, that might work
If I somehow get to force his trinket
It might be winnable
stray sigil
honestly i would trinket cuz id be pissed if i cant play the whole game
and like if he doesnt then
its fine too cuz ur just shitting on his healer all game and hes doing nothing
tiny bluff
Yah
Dude I’ve been playing vs surv hunt+disc
My priest instantly logged off after the game 😂
tiny bluff
Was Hard last expac too
Well yeah, been trying to catch traps - did they change something about their behavior?
Didn’t catch a single trap so far
Even though I’m directly on top and sitting there before it gets thrown
stray sigil
id just pre run when u see hunter runninish at ur healer
just peace it
over like 50/50 on the trap eat
tiny bluff
Yah that’a what I started doing now
stray sigil
cuz if u dont eat it ur in melee either way
tiny bluff
Problem with surv is that he stuns and I can’t run
Gotta hope my priest doesn’t get faked with trap
So what’s your take on 3s currently? Jungle in a good spot?
stray sigil
oh ya then not much u can do
novel sky
bros layer 8 of torghast is aids
stray sigil
up to ur priest best u can do is pre bear
novel sky
omg
stray sigil
idk im like 2.5 mmr atm in 3s
tiny bluff
Only got to play the first day and there we slayed out
tiny bluff
Yah figured
stray sigil
u face ret warrior or war dk
its kinda awful to play vs
but i play with surv and not mm
so we get cleaved a bit more
stray sigil
mm def a better spec
but my hunter only plays surv
so im kinda stuck with it
itrs not awful but not gr8
can kill ur pets and ur kinda fuckd
tiny bluff
Well surv isn’t bad so not much of a problem
tiny oar
Maim convoke kill
stray sigil
@tiny bluff survs not bad just doesnt have the same upfront dmg
tiny bluff
True
tiny bluff
Lol
tiny bluff
Hahahaha
stray sigil
chugging out 12k surges
tiny bluff
Only thing to do is use every defensive and pray 😂
stray sigil
in bop
tiny bluff
LOL
small storm
gonna go feral prot mm
stray sigil
kys mike
small storm
see u on the ladder
small storm
hahahhaha
unreal jewel
no killing of yourselves thanks
stray sigil
i meant in game
small storm
life im r1 parser now
stray sigil
he knows
small storm
are u proud
stray sigil
did getrow name change
unreal jewel
Only took you 1 more expac than me xd
small storm
no
stray sigil
fuck i havent faced this lil fword yet
small storm
bfa didnt happen brother
tiny bluff
Yo Life is still around
stray sigil
faced flark and stun
small storm
oof
unreal jewel
Always around
stray sigil
but not almighty getrow
tiny bluff
Noice
tiny bluff
Lol
tiny oar
Hopefully hes stuck in the maw and too dumb to find out out 2 get out
tiny bluff
So bad?
small storm
he was queuing rsham prot enh
small storm
and rsham prot arms
stray sigil
so yes supa is garbage
tiny bluff
Oof
small storm
when u q into getrow pls spit on him for me
tiny bluff
Idk was thinking about playing ret again this Expac
Now I feel dirty having that thought
stray sigil
ill just tbag him
and wait for the /w
ret looks like fun
like a zugzug kind of fun
like turn brain off
and pve
small storm
he won’t whisp u
tiny bluff
RET finally looks like it’s former self and stronger so yeah
tiny oar
Give em the bear bag kubzy style
tiny bluff
Dunno if I want to jump on the bandwagon lol
small storm
just give him a ratio’d by feral
tiny bluff
Lol
Did u meet illustrated yet?
Is he even playing 3s currently?
Just running into him in 2s all the time idk
Haven’t seen him last seasons either, that’s why I’m curious
tiny oar
Gonna lvl my priest and play arms prot pala disc, pure scum shit
tiny bluff
Ima try that tonight
Worse than with ret/dk though so idk
But should be pretty funny
stray sigil
@tiny bluff no clue who that is
stray sigil
facilez on alt ?
hardy cargo
Ok, since I can't remember, whats the best rdruid memory(for overall/2s)
tiny oar
Verdant infusion
hardy cargo
Ty! Gonna have to remember that so I can craft it later lol
marsh dew
i know dreambinder generally beats boat, but what about for night fae specifically? boat gains quite a bit of value in pvp with convoke right?
patent idol
stray sigil
both gonna be pretty bad in pvp
gilded plover
🙂
tropic kiln
Oh God - I hadn't even thought of the garbage trinks being in the loot table.
junior plover
Got versa wep 
tiny oar
mossy cloud
Do resto and balance share the same gear ?
Just wondering if I need a resto and balance set for PvP
thick mulch
Do you guys think feral/ret/resto sham can work?
sinful canyon
is symmetry the best feral pvp leggo?
stray sigil
yes
its the most consistent one
where as apex CAN be better if you get shitton of procs
depends how the casino treats u
chrome panther
apex vs uh dk = fun times
dim knot
Hello,
Why is the buyable conquest gear still Unraked, if I have obtained Combatand gear from Vault ?
muted niche
anyone have a BIS list for feral?
barren acorn
Hello,
Why is the buyable conquest gear still Unraked, if I have obtained Combat...
You can upgrade conquest gear with honor points
tiny bluff
Yo are the choices from the vault upgradeable too?
did anyone try yet?
as in
if i get a rival one and get duelist later i can upgrade it?
or is it locked?
dim knot
they are upgradable
@barren acorn thank you.
this is probably the best pvp gearing system wow ever had
plain crane
agree 100%
tiny bluff
I love it
purrfect
so reaching new rating thresholds are actually big upgrades now each time
that might be good for "casual" pvpers too
dim knot
well, i'm struggleing to get to 1600-1800, so it depends how well geared the pveers are
keen plinth
I've tried to do some pvp with a friend and we are stuck at 0 rating lol
Instant cc'd then dead either him or me
tiny bluff
What comp you playing?
keen plinth
So bad 
tiny bluff
PvP on low rating is pretty much
trigger first stun or smthing and press every button in the game
dim knot
yeah, this expac's start isn't so easy on ones that haven't played. and even or experienced ones is hard to combat mage-rogue insta kill sometimes
tiny bluff
and pray
keen plinth
He is playing some dk. We aren't going super ham into it. Like a couple matches a day
tiny bluff
skill floor is insanely high in pvp currently
keen plinth
I think its unholy
tiny bluff
compared to last expac
just use every button in the game
he should be bursting everyone aswell
unholy dmg is pretty stronk
in cds
keen plinth
I'm playing resto druid and im not exactly sure what I should be doing. I've been trying to use my bear form if I'm getting targeted. But I can't out heal the damage
So I try to cc one of them with cyclone or something but he dies anyways
tiny bluff
resto druid has a really tough time currently
im just training druids and they just fall over so easily
so dont really know how to help there 😒
its really really awkward being a resto rn
chrome panther
have to play thinking further ahead.
always have 2 rejuvs rolling on yourself
play near pillar if they have CDs up
keen plinth
I'll get it down eventually im still working on hotkeys and stuff. Started a week ago
Hold up let me screenshot this mess
chrome panther
its probably the hardest healer to excel at, always has been tbh
keen plinth
I've taken like a year or 2 break. I went hard when bfa came out but I played hunter
chrome panther
play shaman if you want riptides to heal as much as ns-regrowths
keen plinth
Just gotta get used to having to use shift for keybinds
It gets pretty awkward
mybar haha
Think I got everything
keen vault
we have a lot of similar binds
keen plinth
I need to get used to some stuff but its been going well. I started doing mythic 0 at ilvl 160 and its been good enough
Just need to work on anti cc( if thats a thing) for pvp
Or maybe just combo with my duo better
strange sedge
do wer have a BIS legendary for pvp?
marsh dew
for strictly BGs, is boat > dreambinder?
chrome panther
do wer have a BIS legendary for pvp?
for what spec.
chrome panther
for strictly BGs, is boat > dreambinder?
dreambinder > boat.
strange sedge
@chrome panther balance sorry
wind delta
And for arena its still circle?
last trout
Are there matchups in which u guys would go apex predator(or any other legendary) over fearful symmetry in PvP as feral?
devout frost
dreambinder is pvp bis @strange sedge
strange sedge
thanks
sacred vortex
Quick question, so from conq points I buy an item that's 200 il, then upgrade it. How far I upgrade it is dependant on my rating, yes? Also, if I hit 1600 I can upgrade all my gear to 213, I don't have to MAINTAIN that rating right?
chrome panther
if you dont maintain the rating, you wont be able to upgrade. it wont downgrade your gear though.
forest kite
what are some good options to buy with first conquest piece?
zealous geode
I've seen a few ferals on ladder buying the vers/mas ring
sacred vortex
if you dont maintain the rating, you wont be able to upgrade. it wont downgrade ...
I earned 1600 last week, do I need to actually PLAY an arena game this week or can I just do weekly quests and daily bgs for points?
tiny bluff
need to play in the bracket afaik
shadow mist
Anyone know how long Mercenary Mode lasts? Seems to drop off randomly
devout frost
lasts until there is no need for mercencaries
tiny oar
It's an 1 hr long buff
devout frost
yes but cant refresh it if no need
worthy parrot
Why does my conquest gear still gets purchased as "unranked" even if I'm not below 1400? Or does ranking just make it possible to upgrade it afterwards?
candid moth
ranking makes you able to upgrade
worthy parrot
Aight, cheers for quick reply
devout frost
did any feral get cheesed by the altimor neck?
candid moth
here as reference
forest kite
do u know if leech/Avoidance/speed work in arena content ? I got 1 item with high amount of avoidance in my great vault this week so ...
fervent imp
Is verdant infusion the best legendary in 2v/3v for rdrood on shoulder ?
worthy parrot
Thanks @candid moth
shrewd fossil
is the gladiators medallion bonus working?
rich surge
i was wondering too is verdant best on shoulders?
fringe summit
probably not, haste is bis stat. @rich surge
devout frost
is the gladiators medallion bonus working?
yes
winter pollen
Should I put oath on shoulders or wrist? does it matter? resto
junior plover
does this work with guardian affi?
winter pollen
you dont need guardians affinity but yes it does
You don't even need to be in bear form
winter pollen
That is the BIS conduit for all specs and all forms of content
junior plover
Nice
shadow mist
It procs regardless of any talents or spec