not a fan of it
#pvp
lime light
pine pecan
what leggo do we want for feral in pvp?
clear pulsar
Not if you're good
clear pulsar
You're way more likely to get a weapon than a necklace with 4% vers
It's 4% at 220 @lime light
lime light
so again
dire nymph
does anyone know of an up to date resource for spell DR's?
hoary ledge
This week 1.8k but 2.1 going forward @lime light
lime light
are u sure
hoary ledge
Yes
clear pulsar
It's normal tho
If you the treadmill isn't infite anymore, obviously they want to make it long enough to still keep people playing for a long time
open verge
no you need 2,1 for GV 226 reward
clear pulsar
I mean everything's capped
lime light
"There are no caps on the Great Vault’s PvP considerations. Duelists (rank 5) or higher will receive item level 226 equipment from the Great Vault.
"
so u are lying to the boi
clear pulsar
Next week you get another heroic raid, m+ spam gives 210, and mythic raid unlocks
hoary ledge
Out of context quote bro
lime light
"For this first week of the Season in PvP, item-level upgrades of Conquest equipment are capped at item level 220, requiring Rival (rank 4). Starting with the second week, (again that’s December 15 in this region), item level upgrades of Conquest equipment are uncapped. There are no caps on the Great Vault’s PvP considerations. Duelists (rank 5) or higher will receive item level 226 equipment from the Great Vault."
clear pulsar
Not really
novel sky
I did 12 dungeons this week
clear pulsar
I always get loot from my dgs
novel sky
And got 2 pieces
clear pulsar
I mean I don't rly do dungeons
open verge
@lime light you can upgrade the gear from conq vendor to 220, but you can get 226 from great vault
clear pulsar
But when I do I get loot
open verge
if you're 2,1
novel sky
I’m glad I’m not the only one with shit luck
open verge
yes
open verge
yes
hoary ledge
Damn glyph 199 ilvl is cracked
hoary ledge
I’m 185 lmao
clear pulsar
Idk bro yall always find ways to complain about loot acquisition/balance between diff content
clear pulsar
Like it makes any differencec anyway
novel sky
Number big pp big
clear pulsar
If pvp gear requires glad then pve gear is way easier to get
If pvp gear requires duelist then there is no point in pushing rating
Like pick a side tian
You can't just bitch about anything and everything they do with loot
I mean I guess you can
But I WONT STAND BY IT
lime light
i understand the point
obtuse ice
garbage xpac
clear pulsar
Pvpers legit spent the last 2 years complaining about how they had to do pve cuz pvp took to long to give meaningful rewards
Compared to pve
Now pvpers have an issue with the ilvl capping out at duelist
lime light
the main issue with pvp right now
that i hate is
u get cap
and thats it
u spam arenas
and u cant get better gear
like u doing m+
u can get items
all the time
clear pulsar
Yeah but you get more max ilvl items from pvp than from m+
lime light
that is true
but idk
at some point 2.1k
maybe should allow u
to buy
200 ilvl
or something
or 2.4k
not renown 24
or something
clear pulsar
Honestly vers gear is so scarce in pve
That even if your pvp gear is 200 and pve is 213
small storm
big dam who need vers
lime light
idk if i should save on my warrior and dk
the weapon is bad
same for feral its haste vers
open verge
i need to lvl my monk to 60 and cap conq
lime light
iam 16% versa
but it doesnt matter
if u face sub teams or arms teams
if u have 20 % or 2%
open verge
~that is not wrong
lapis jolt
what legendary are boomkins using for pvp?
hollow junco
Does anyone know if a macro that is one of my arena1/2/3 clones is possible to use as a basic @latent sparrow clone outside of arena (or even better a mouseover/target one)? I couldn't get one to work both ways just using [@arena1, exists] but don't what else to try
open verge
@lapis jolt dreambinder or boat
lapis jolt
ty
clear pulsar
@hollow junco yeah you can do that
You just need another set of conditions
Like
/cast [@arena1,exists][@mouseover,exists,harm,nodead]Cyclone
It'll try to cast @ those targets in the order you place them
lethal heart
how much is too much versa? or it is good to stack all u can?
upbeat frost
Question for people. Does the spell Soothe (https://www.wowhead.com/spell=2908/soothe) work against anything in pvp?
patent cradle
no such thing as too much vers
dusty sphinx
iirc you can dispel Berserker Rage, which can be fairly useful if you time it right. Apart from that, not really
It's more of a thing in BGs, though, where people tend to pre-cast it as they jump into a group of enemies
soft heart
does anyone know if you drop rating your great vault reward drops or is it locked to highest?
hollow junco
It won't drop within a week, but after a reset you'll need to get back up there
soft heart
thanks
small storm
anyone in here named Galkurac?
obtuse ice
me
small storm
they could use some lessons
hasty dome
Yeah, pod seed nameplate is like off top of the screen. Super awkward to target
small storm
wow whoever it is is bad
open verge
how bad
chrome panther
so bad
open verge
they waited full damp?:D
rich surge
I was wondering what are some good comps for 2s or 3s with a resto druid seems like everything is to bursty for resto heals
turbo is shaman warrior whats tsg?
chrome panther
dk war
thundercleave is another good comp
wwtd is disgusting if the ww/dk are coordinated.
hasty dome
Run mass entanglement for unholy dk and ww
small storm
anyone play any kitty cleave?
rich surge
Dk/war seems good thats a beefy combo
tried some with a shaman and he was kinda squish
potent dragon
rdruid arena streamer recommended to learn from?
sinful nova
is NF required for boomy if you do alot of pvp?
chrome panther
dreambinder
small storm
am raid
formal wave
so its been almost a week since the season started
how has convoke worked out for you guys? getting any sick blasts?
slow quiver
runic loom
I've won a few games as rdruid with a solid convoke on a dps behind pillat
eternal charm
Guys any good content creator bout druids?
safe heart
crit/vers for feral pvp or haste?
stray sigil
vers > mas > crit > haste
safe heart
oh okay, interesting
maiden viper
tiny oar
If kubzy can do it we can too with sum practice brother
ripe spoke
Hey guys does druid have anything in our kit to counter warrior ring I get clapped when warriors do it to me
ripe spoke
lol
clear pulsar
@tiny oar bro if you get me gear I'm getting you to 2.1 hello?
70% win rate to 1.8
Ez 2.1
ripe spoke
seriously though
rigid linden
i aint even 2.1 yet
ripe spoke
are you really just dodging it?
rigid linden
been lazy
ripe spoke
guess just queue with disc priest is my onhly option then...
that ability is such bs lol
tiny oar
I havent even done a 10 yet depleted a 7 necrotic wake the other day lmao fuck that place @clear pulsar if u get sum gear we can do low keys shit
tiny oar
O ur already doing 10s on it ? Ez game then
U gotta tank or dps cuz idk shit about any of these horseshit dungos, I just infinitely heal all these donkies that stand in every mechanic known to man
balmy sparrow
LEGENDARY
clear pulsar
Nah on alliance
You dingus
Ofc I'm not doing 10s on my horde I dinged it 2h ago
Legit 140 ilvl
clear pulsar
U gotta tank or dps cuz idk shit about any of these horseshit dungos, I just inf...
Mood
tiny oar
Ofc I'm not doing 10s on my horde I dinged it 2h ago
Ooo lol nice
teal crest
Does anyone know any guides that explains what each class and spec does, like their cds and how they're supposed to be played
In arenas
hoary ledge
I need to level my horde
Zug zug
There was an old series called Know Your Enemy on YT but it’s outdated at this point, not sure exactly how valuable that would be
Otherwise I’d say just watch class guides by reputable people for some baseline info about each class / game play
watch streamers, review vods
forest kite
WHEN balancing patch?
hoary ledge
15th iirc?
tiny oar
Yea either class guides or just queue arena n figure out what does dmg, flyplatebuffs helps a lot for seeing big cds
15th for the pve tuning ya, pvp shit hasn't been announced yet
hoary ledge
Sounds good
stone nest
Do y’all use any addons that you feel like you couldn’t live without
tiny oar
Just gladius omnibar ATT n flyplatebuffs for me really
wind rock
Hey, how hard is it to get the conquest cap done? Similar to BFA by some arena games?
small storm
took me like 30 mins
wide wagon
you can get it sooo fast this week yeah
wind rock
Also, I've crafted circle of life and death legendary for resto, is it decent in arena too or should I craft something else? Have enough soul ash to craft another one
echo mural
is there a way holy priest can come back to life after going into spirit form?
random patrol
they have a pvp talent to go into the spirt form for a few seconds
spirit of the redeemer
quartz idol
How does feral in arenas feel to the ferals around? And what comps have people been doing well with?
echo mural
had to be the pvp talent thanks
dire nymph
I've been running kitty cleave, no idea how it will match up at higher ratings yet
but feels really good so far
nova sail
If anyone is curious about Balance in pvp with the Balance all things lego and convoke spirits
tiny oar
nova sail
well yeah, just giving a rough idea of it, I suck at pvp its just fun to see people pop
first time I've done any type of rated pvp ever
tiny oar
A lot they could've done there to live / stop ur go but they just let you kill them 4 free
autumn wedge
what legendary is go for boomie in arenas
tiny oar
It can be fun to just meme on clowns tho ya
autumn wedge
n what stat weight haste versa ?
nova sail
yeah, if my buddy isn't able to keep them off me I usually get stunned and focused down
nova sail
sub rogue in pvp is probably the thing I hate most since I'm so bad at pvp. I get stun locked even with trink and I feel like I'm doing something wrong
autumn wedge
we managed to kill fire mage sub rogue combos pretty easily if i just manage to pop cyclone to rogue when he breaks
cyclone is awesome
nova sail
can't he trinket that?
or are you able to nuke the fire mage fast enough that it doesnt amtter?
quartz idol
@dire nymph How do you even play kitty cleave? I've been having such bad lick with warriors on my team.
The only thing I even can play okay in 3s is melee spell comps.
Aff lock/Feral. Destro/Feral. Mage/Feral.
dire nymph
Idk, I have 2 friends that I play with and we stomped to 1800. So not exactly tested against great players yet
no advice I would give you would be specific to kitty cleave
just in general with melee cleaves momentum is very powerful and swaps are deadly
quartz idol
Right on, that's fair.
dire nymph
my warrior has been getting a lot of 3 man fears in our openers so maybe I just have a better warrior 🙂
quartz idol
Yeah that's pretty possible. I've been working on clones but man.
tiny oar
NS CDR reduction and floral recycling are both solid options @south siren
If it's only 2s and you know you can get a good convoke off for sure then convoke conduit is cool too
south siren
alright, thanks 😄
tiny oar
Yea I ain't even got all the conduits yet just got NS yesterday, still dont have an unstoppable growth for pve. The fact you gotta go back to your covenant to change em is kinda wack.
south siren
been spamming some m+ so got all of them at 200 :p
white canyon
Have you got a guide for drood feral in pvp ?
tardy hare
@summer kettle hello u r wrong faction
tardy hare
summer kettle
<@171396044490407936> hello u r wrong faction
No u
tardy hare
Wtfrick!
split lava
Yo some ppl say Vers Haste and others Vers Masr, what's actually best?
Mast
For Balance
tiny oar
I am going necro simp 2day @lime light big sad
autumn wedge
not sure but i think haste versa cause haste increase dmg n decrease dmg taken haste for dots mby
terse orbit
can someone link a convoke macro that doesnt intterupt it?
clear pulsar
NS CDR reduction and floral recycling are both solid options <@12717223733257830...
Floral recycling is the worst. Its hot fuckinhg trash.
tiny oar
Ya I mean they're all like not very significant right, floral is small but it's the most consistent thruput option for your team between that n clearcast regrowth n ns
Not sure about the necro one havent tried it yet
Evolved swarm looks pretty decent
chrome panther
the ns cd reduction one is pretty gud.
tiny oar
You could just get dicked on clearcast procs n not get 1 for half a minute with full bloom uptime
U could prolly justify a like unstoppable growth and early spring build with how fast and cleave-y games are atm tho @clear pulsar I could see that being a thing
terse orbit
how do you open in arena as feral?
exotic wolf
if you're nightfae stun -> convoke
then watch them shit their pants
solemn scroll
youre gonna get kicked like this
clear pulsar
The issue with recycling is it prioritizes regrowth. Regrowth hot does fuck all. It's legit like 500 extra heal on a swiftmend.@tiny oar
vale crystal
Any good boomie pvp streamers? Especially playing with sub
patent dove
Corkiri is really good if you can catch him on stream
long sable
anyone can help me out? i cant decide on which legendary i should craft for pvp
Oath of the Elder Druid
or
Circle of Life and Death
i am night fae so i can do some heavy burst with the Heart of the Wild effect from Oath of the Elder Druid while in cat form using convoke the spirit and the passive more heal and damage reduction from Ysera's Gift and Thick Hide are also great
but i dont know how much difference the 15% faster hots and 25% faster dots from circle make...
open verge
I understand you're resto? I would say neither
open verge
these seem like gimmicks more than good legendaries
tiny oar
Wait for verdant infusion yo
open verge
maybe next week youll have access to verdant
long sable
i dont know if simply not having to refresh that much is such a big deal
open verge
it is
patent dove
Ngl Verdant is not gonna help me heal through this
long sable
also since i dont got adaptive swarm because im night fae its not a plus for me
or better said good combo for me
patent dove
Verdant is better than circle because it saves gcds
You save the gcd for reapplying the hot you would have consumed and you save the gcds for reapplying the hots that were extended
More gcd for ccing enemy because preventing damage is way more efficient than healing through
long sable
hmm and oath is only good for the burst output you can do with convoke the spirit.... did roughly 14k just now in a duel so it should pump it to almost 20k with oath
tiny oar
The issue with recycling is it prioritizes regrowth. Regrowth hot does fuck all....
O word that's really wack lol regrowth hot is big troll, guess I never noticed cuz most of my mends are off rejuvs so it's like an extra 1300 just from 1 full rejuv hot, that's rly weird tho
clear pulsar
It's just how Swiftmend prioritizes the hots
Which I mean, is rly good right? If Swiftmend's gonna consume a hot you want it to be your weakest so you don't have to reapply Rejuv everytime
tiny oar
Yea infusion will make that better I guess
clear pulsar
So what you're doing is kinda right
It's straight better to Swiftmend consuming a rejuv
Than a regrowth
Even tho that means 1 less mastery stack
It just feels wrong, right? You're getting more healing out of having less hots up
With Infusion it'll be the same thing, if anything it only means Recycling is always bad since you'll always have Regrowth up
Unless people click it off when you wanna Swiftmend
Yell in discord
With lifebloom + rejuv + regrowth up, Swiftmend does 5750 for me, 6400 with ilvl 200 Recycling for me.
7.5k without regrowth up
So without Infusion it seems good if you remember not to put up Regrowths
With Infusion, it'll be kinda troll
tiny oar
Yea idk I dont rly regrowth ppl outside of clearcast procs or mend sotf regrowth anyways so doesn't feel like too huge an issue 2 me
clear pulsar
Tho also you have to make sure your Rejuv is fresh
tiny oar
Theres just not rly a need for it unless sum1s just infinitely dead
clear pulsar
Cuz it's a % of the remaining duration
Honestly bro Flash of Clarity may just be better
26% bigger Regrowth with clearcast
Idk
obtuse ice
Youtube down for you guys?
clear pulsar
Yeah doesn't load
tiny oar
Yup big dead
clear pulsar
I really used up my little shard thingy in the forge just to test this shit out
Now another one to get back to my conduit
obtuse ice
Big dead mdr
tiny oar
N yea in that case I would like the clarity one better prolly atm
clear pulsar
You owe me big time bro
tiny oar
Or ns or anything
clear pulsar
tiny oar
Fuck blizzard and their regrowth bugs
clear pulsar
Convoke conduit 
Have you made a legendary yourself yet? I see a few people made the pvp one, Oath. Sounds kinda nice, double FR if you poosy, big dam if you big man.
tiny oar
Ya convoke all the way to 2700 let's get it
clear pulsar
It's not a bug, honestly just bad design
tiny oar
Oath is for baby diaper idiots, I'll make a sephuz next week if verdant isnt up tbh
clear pulsar
Like it shouldn't exist. I think the way Swiftmend picks hots is great, not random, prioritizes consuming weaker hots, etc. They should just change the functionality, it's counterintuitive with mastery.
fleet panther
Which legendary do we want for resto in arena?
clear pulsar
I mean the conduit functionality
I believe all the big time rdruids are just waiting on Verdant Infusion @fleet panther
tiny oar
Verdant infusion my fellow druid @fleet panther
Verdant infusion my fellow druid @fleet panther
clear pulsar
In the meantime some have made a 190 Oath, or Sephuz, or one for PVE, but Verdant Infusion is the one.
Discord laggy af?
devout frost
discord servers are dying
obtuse ice
Don't involve tiantonqt in this 
clear pulsar
Youtube works in incognito mode btw
tiny oar
Him and his zug zug russians are trying to censor us elemond
Him and his zug zug russians are trying to censor us elemond
long sable
anyone knows stat prio for resto pvp?
tiny oar
Vers bis > haste or mast > crit pure donkey ideally haste vers everything tho
long sable
so gotta decide between haste for more/faster dmg and mastery more defensive, if i only want to focus on two stats
clear pulsar
It's not as much for damage
The game's super fast paced rn and you just need faster globals
To react/set up hots/fast casts on Regrowth and Cyclone
Mastery also relatively more expensive now than it was in BFA
Compared to other secondaries
exotic wolf
does anyone know this:
I cleared 6/10 nathria normal bosses.
If I kill the first boss on heroic does my weekly vault let me choose 1 heroic lvl item and 1 normal item because I killed 1 heroic boss and the rest where normal bosses?
in short, does normal shriekwing and heroic shriekwing count as separate bosses for weekly vault?
fading iris
i go vers haste for every spec every class, pve and pvp
exotic wolf
@fading iris that's not good?
small storm
i full cleared normal and 9/10 heroic, i have 2 heroic loot 1 normal loot
clear pulsar
Actually no
He's asking if he kills 7 bosses total (unlocking 2nd reward) but two of them are the same just different difficulties @small storm
I don't think it counts as giving you 7 bosses
clear pulsar
That's not what he's asking bro
exotic wolf
ok. thought so. Just thought I could cheese 1 more bigger ilvl loot in my weekly vault.
then I hope for some good stuff on my 220 pvp items
small storm
too early to read question i only provide answer
exotic wolf
@fallen tideike i Just want the first item reward to be heroic ilvl.
clear pulsar
Killing one boss is enough to get the first choice to be heroic ilvl of course
exotic wolf
lol I just realized my question was absolutely stupid
clear pulsar
But I don't think you get a second choice at normal ilvl in that exact case
I thought that's what you were asking
small storm
well some idiot told me u can go kill h shriekwing 10x for 3 heroic boxes
exotic wolf
ok then my question wasnt dumb
let me explain it again
no wait
still dumb no need to re explain it
small storm
go kill 3 heroic bosses
exotic wolf
if yyou have to kill 3 bosses to unlock 1 gear piece it isnt possible for me
clear pulsar
If you kill 6 bosses on normal, and 1 on heroic, with Shriekwing being in both, I think you don't get the 2nd box cuz Shriekwing would only count once.
exotic wolf
nah @small storm cba doing heroic raiding atm
clear pulsar
Raiding sucks b cba with that
small storm
full 220+ vault 
exotic wolf
wanted to see the raid, thats enough. only thing im missing is the legendary from stone generals
may rngesus be good to you on tuesday/wednesday @small storm
small storm
exotic wolf
anyone knows if you can get pvp weapons in weekly vault this reset?
wouldn't it be super op if you, as 2 hand player, get your pvp weapon already?
clear pulsar
I see no reason why you couldn't
exotic wolf
haste versa staff on 220 ilvl
rngesus pls be good to me on wednesday
clear pulsar
Could get it from m+ choices too ofc
clear pulsar
Yeah maybe not tho, since raid doesn't directly drop weapons!?
small storm
wep token prob
dire pulsar
tiny oar
Tian was trolling us hes had his fun mdr
lime light
Nerf convoke
Legit if they dont nerf it
Iam swapping
Its too op
U Play like normal, with a lot of pressure, and u always have a special boi one deag
livid wasp
im never stooping so low as to use that
clear pulsar
They literally let it all go thru with no cds traded at all!???
clear pulsar
End of cast the boomie casted a starsurge that crit
It wasn't convoke starsurge
You can see his astral power bar
lime light
Prolly one from convoke and 2nd normal
clear pulsar
They literally let the whole cast thru bro sdfu
lime light
There is no way IT was one
clear pulsar
The paladin had every cd in the game available
Incarn + Convoke
No cds traded
Dies
tiny oar
Yea neither of them had rupts assuming pally was on forbearance if he just sat on bubble like that
Or just a greedy fuck miscalculating
candid moth
its like getting melted by combustion because you didnt press any defensive
clear pulsar
No drs at all on either of them
candid moth
clear pulsar
No fear drs I mean
tiny oar
Lock was in narnia from that pov maybe he was in range tho
lime light
He legit got one shoted from 100%
U would never bubble
Lmao
Iam done, good thing its your day guys
APE DAY
clear pulsar
Yeah it was 100% crit from CA + a full convoke cast
livid wasp
its stupid that other covenant abilities are whatever then there is one that if you mess up you die cause of it
clear pulsar
I'm 100% sure it's getting nerfed, but that clip's just not rly a Convoke's busted clip
tiny oar
If a incarned boomie starts convoking my ass with no stops available I'm 100% pressing every button 2 stay alive lol
lime light
Bubble at 100%
small storm
just line 4head
clear pulsar
Nevermind that jaime and swapxy had done 80k damage in the first 10s of combat before that
exotic wolf
man, I can't watch swapxy
clear pulsar
I can't wait to go necrolord tomorrow
exotic wolf
I just do't like this guy
candid moth
I can't wait to go necrolord tomorrow
yikes
lime light
At least i can aruge with u now again @clear pulsar
Rest are kinda beta
No one wants to fight me
clear pulsar
100% bro these people just shut up "oh my god he's being mean call thyme"
lime light
small storm
i cant wait to /spit on u guys in game
lime light
Or just chill on arms and unh
tiny oar
Ya me too
clear pulsar
@small storm get me a normal SLG kill on horde alt so I can craft circle on main pls
clear pulsar
For when I go necrolord ofc
small storm
no time
livid wasp
people thought bfa last season corruption fiesta was bad 
simple latch
Is the vault cap 1800 or 2100 this week?
hollow cypress
Went with night fae and got to renowned 9 how much work is it to switch to Necrolord?
vague temple
that aint bad since thats just cosmetics
clear pulsar
Soul ash missions too, faster legos 
umbral oar
upgrading is capped at 220
wait, u cant upgrade to 226?
severe python
Is vault pvp gear going to be upgradable? Or set ilvl?
hollow junco
Pretty sure vault pvp and normal conquest gear are the same items difference is the vault can come out upgraded while the purchased ones you have to spend some honor on to get to your rating's upgrade level
vague temple
afaik u cant upgrade beyond 1800 from what was said
median storm
hey guys i got a question, how can i keep my forms the way i have them naturally if i go to a bg with merc buff? i just get default ones
clear pulsar
afaik u cant upgrade beyond 1800 from what was said
Only this week
hushed bluff
I’m switching up positions for you.... damn song. I woke up with that song in my head
Thought you all should know
spare cobalt
about to jump in to battlegrounds for some pvp gearing... may do some arenas too... for Resto, which should i start PvPing with?
not much less intellect with the right one but i'd lose 45 haste for 43 vers
keen vault
you are undergeared, the stat difference is negligible
spare cobalt
kk, thx
lime light
Both garbanzo just q up
exotic wolf
2100
vault cap is at 1800? not 2100?
you get maximum ilvl in your vault if you reached 1800 rating in rated pvp
spare cobalt
kk, jumping in, thx for the info
onyx tide
What talents are you guys running in 2s as resto with a warr? Atm ive been using incarnation tree form because ppl die so fast and its not often fights are longer then 30sec. But im only at 1300 atm. Hoping meta changes soon
sacred wing
you'll replace either of those in just a couple BG's @spare cobalt so I'd just queue up and stay at the back 😂
exotic wolf
is that so
I mean your maximum ilvl you can get in your weekly vault next reset is 220
and if you reach 1800 rating in rated pvp you already unlock 220
sour plinth
how to survive as boomy in pvp?
exotic wolf
correct me if I'm wrong
clear pulsar
I mean your maximum ilvl you can get in your weekly vault next reset is 220
and ...
You're wrong
I'm correcting you
You're welcome
fresh estuary
What talents are you guys running in 2s as resto with a warr? Atm ive been using...
The only talents i change is between feral/guardian affinity and tree form if i expect high burst
exotic wolf
i'll have to push to 2.1 if 220 isnt max ilvl for this week
vague temple
@onyx tide I run 3 - 3 - 3 - 1 - 1 - 3 - 2
sacred wing
haven't had many issues surviving as boomy to be honest, vortex/soulshape has been a nice escape from melee, renewal also pretty good, go bear if you're getting trained. Always remember to get thorns up as well against melee heavy teams @sour plinth
clear pulsar
For this first week of the Season in PvP, item-level upgrades of Conquest equipment are capped at item level 220, requiring Rival (rank 4). Starting with the second week, (again that’s December 15 in this region), item level upgrades of Conquest equipment are uncapped. There are no caps on the Great Vault’s PvP considerations. Duelists (rank 5) or higher will receive item level 226 equipment from the Great Vault.
Blue post from 5 days ago
vague temple
poggers
clear pulsar
Tree is a bait talent tbh
exotic wolf
found it. thanks @clear pulsar
clear pulsar
SotF is so good, especially paired with Nature's Swiftness it's like a Lay on Hands
vague temple
What covenants are ppl running?
exotic wolf
atm nfae
forest kite
Can Someone Tell me the best Legendary for rdrood Plesse ?
clear pulsar
Kyrian generally the most solid choice for the dps specs, Necrolord for resto
Lot of people run night fae tho, for pve/fun/RP/whatever. Convoke is good too. @vague temple
vague temple
Yeah I just swapped to resto
I got all I need from night fae for RP so whocares lol
Going necrolord
clear pulsar
Or you could blast cat form convokes before it gets nerfed
vague temple
Nop
clear pulsar
So
Night Fae is significantly better in pve ok?
I mean
I'm all for necrolord
But if you do pve also, I wouldn't be so quick to swap ofc
vague temple
Yeah, that's true
onyx tide
I see i need to sit down and fix alot of macro’s for every talentswap 😅 alot to think about as druid 😜
vague temple
Though I don't really like raiding that much and I don't plan to push +15s
so who cares
Truth be told though night fae is significantly worse than necrolord imo
onyx tide
But what about rated bg, how does necrolord compare there to NF? Convoke is pretty sivk in big fights and when low on mana
clear pulsar
so who cares
Facts bro go for it
Most of what's keeping my main night fae is I don't want to restart my mission table and anima upgrades and cosmetic farm
vague temple
night fae looks beautiful
really night elf worthy
how do you find druids in 2s btw?
lime light
@clear pulsar
stray sigil
remote cave
Not really sure what to buy
sly meteor
when do you guys usually use swarm in arenas?
stray sigil
remote cave
I didn't go Necro, I should have. Night Fae will be nerfed hard
exotic wolf
is there a specific reason you guys buy neck/ring?
stray sigil
huge vers
clear pulsar
Cuz it's the only thing you can buy!?
exotic wolf
I didn't go Necro, I should have. Night Fae will be nerfed hard
you can easily swap so doesnt matter
lime light
big versa small mastry
clear pulsar
lime light
yes?
tardy hare
Imagine youre ret/hunter/disc
lime light
every arena u ente ru win?
feral urchin
No other vers haste ring in the game @exotic wolf
stray sigil
yes ofc
open verge
sounds hard to pull off @tardy hare
stray sigil
big skill
tardy hare
Thought so yes
open verge
you know.. aiming trap is a minigame of its own!
tardy hare
Zelo doesnt play ret sub
stray sigil
ah i left that shitpost discord
tardy hare
Xd
stray sigil
tardy hare
Now i can become the feral coach!
stray sigil
what an honor!!!!
lime light
sub ret best 2s comp
tardy hare
Yes
lime light
with convoke yes
clear pulsar
ah i left that shitpost discord
Worldofpvp?
livid wasp
are there other kyrian feral streamers than tony?
candid moth
do we increase the conquest cap by higher rating?
so we can do more than 550 conquest a week?
stray sigil
nop
lyric crag
is it worth going guardian affinty in 2s since they just burn you down anyway as resto and go balance or feral instead?
vague temple
worth guardian
terse orbit
Any feral here that i could just ask some basic questions?
hoary ledge
@clear pulsar not waiting for wep?
lime light
@clear pulsar incarn for raiding ofc?
clear pulsar
Incarn is absolute garbo don't even joke
@hoary ledge if you're just good like me you'll get wep on vault tomorrow
lime light
ff or bt
hoary ledge
Damn that’s honestly a big brain play, just get the wep bro xD
warm falcon
Do I make a stupid choice if I go NF when the primary focus is arena and 2s?
Likely to main resto but will sure alternate balance and feral aswell
west terrace
Hey guys. We have someone asking over #resto chat if they should chose Night Fae for arena.
Thoughts?
Ah, there you are
Nvm
warm falcon
Yeah I rotated in here now 😅
west terrace
👍
warm falcon
I feel like it’s a diverse choice but do I loose out to much passing necro ?
warm falcon
K cool. I’ll check in some later if there are any feedback given to the question. Thanks
forest hawk
I have a question as well. What are opinions on Draught of Deep Focus?
dry star
I've seen a couple people reference Faerie Fire here, am I completely blind? where/what is that ability?
jolly wren
They mean the disarm pvp talent I think?
dry star
Ah, so faerie swarm
balmy leaf
Top three boomkin comps?
devout frost
whatever's op
clear pulsar
Rogue, ww, spriest, affliction
small storm
cant wait to see the ret nerfs 🙂
lime light
and feral
obtuse ice
Ye
lime light
nerf:
-sub by a lot
-boomkin starsurge or incarn in pvp
-night fae for feral
-arms warrior
-rsham healing
clear pulsar
Also nerf ret and deathbolt
lime light
yes
correct
and nerf wog for prot and ret
idk about nerfing mm, i think the spec is super trash without dam
neat pulsar
and nerf burst across the board
small storm
just make it so players take less damage if they just took a bunch of damage
removes 1 shots, everyone would cry, game would be boring
its like cns minor all over again
obtuse ice
WINDWALKER+???
lime light
they are op, but they dont anoy me
obtuse ice
LOL
lime light
and they are sqishy
lime light
sure
blissful belfry
Yo guys, im playin with a warrior in 2s. (Im a main boomy but i resto on his ass. Tried some double dps convoke cheese but its not super efficient in 2s). How viable is this comp. I feel like he cant kill a target quickly and we cant cc chain anything because we dr eachother. Whats our ''win condition'' or our game plan supposed to be
devout frost
wtf kinda warr u playing with that cant kill a target quickly
blissful belfry
A shit war, thats the kinda war im playin with. A sub rogue be openin me 5 yard away and he wont cancel his bladestorm to fear him and save me.
lime light
big dam first
blissful belfry
BiG dAm
devout frost
why are they bladestorming before a sub rogue opens
and how do u get opened on by a sub rogue as the druid
devout frost
oh i missed the resto part
blissful belfry
Yeahhh, the double dps boomy cheese wasnt working for me. in 3s it was nice, but 2s i didnt find a way to make boomy cheese work
(we around 1700 tryna get 1800, for info)
forest hawk
Was just in an Arena with 2 other rogues (I am resto) and the other team was all sub rogues...
We died
blissful belfry
...
covert fog
tbh fuck what anyone else says. Pool AsP > Incarn > On use > bond > triple surge (with boat) > ded
chrome panther
Yo guys, im playin with a warrior in 2s. (Im a main boomy but i resto on his ass...
your win condition is chaining bolt into cyclone on healers and doing more sustained damage than any other dps besides UHdk till tuesday.
against double dps he needs to pick duel and peel for you in the opener
covert fog
saw a convoke boomy, kicked that shit real quick, then rekt him with the triple surge to the dome
nf nerds gtfo
blissful belfry
I can hardly find windows to cast clone without risking a cut and letting him die. I try some stomp-clones when i know the dps is occupied somewhere else, or i bash clone
But even when i bash + triple clone, my war cant kill shit
devout frost
find a better warrior
simple latch
Incap roar clone is dope too
blissful belfry
Yeah thats something i forget to use. i usually run balance aff to help out dmg, but against 2 dps i go guardian aff and i forget about incap.
Gotta get dat in my mind
does incap roar dr with clone and fear?
simple latch
Nope
blissful belfry
nice
simple latch
It drs with scatter trap and what not
devout frost
its an incap
blissful belfry
ayayay
simple latch
I played it decently high last season with gushing wound it was so fun
blissful belfry
Oh, btw, i havent had time to test, what does convoke not target? Does it hit anything in combat or will it ignore some cc? Im pretty sure i had spell go on cloned target, but im not sure if it will go on rooted players
simple latch
Idk in kyrian lol
devout frost
doesnt ignore things like cyclone
blissful belfry
ahhh yeah thats what i felt
fierce barn
whats looking like the best pvp leggo for feral?
blissful belfry
So i can mass root the whole bunch, surge a few times the target i wanna kill and then convoke his ass
simple latch
Night fae is a meme
blissful belfry
convoke is so good against noobs and so hard to use against player with IQ above room temperature
simple latch
Balance of all things kyrian triple starsugees is where it’s at
blissful belfry
(like my friend who facetanks convoke cuz spell reflect / bolt / fear is too much trouble)
covert fog
why would you waste mass entangle to land convoke when u need it for rootbeams
blissful belfry
why would you waste mass entangle to land convoke when u need it for rootbeams
Root beam the healer with it and shit on the deeps with convoke during a stun
simple latch
I’m just saying it’s not consistently good
covert fog
or just dont play convoke
blissful belfry
that is true
i mean, im night fae, im not switching for some off raid pvp
(and im not goin to be kyrian simpin in raid u can count on me)
simple latch
Are you boomkin or resto?
blissful belfry
Im a main boomy tuck to play resto in 2s becaue my friends arent healers
im pretty disgustingly bad at resto right now honestly tho. i did the same thing last xpac, but i had a better feel of resto
haughty compass
If I end up wanting to try hard arena I’ll play my Kyrian moonkin more, but idc
Convoke is fun
simple latch
I find short cool downs like thkryian one fun
hollow cypress
I find covoke AVG at best as resto.
It's might be ok if you get aura mastery but with some killer setups I don't see it any good at highr MMR.
I'm rerolling to Necrolord
blissful belfry
i wish convoke didnt lock you in nature school when interupted
haughty compass
It’s fun baiting a kick or trinket with clone then bashing and deleting someone
But Kyrian seems more well rounded in general
lament citrus
Which h2o is the arena h2o
clear pulsar
You don't really need that much cc either tho
Like if you kick a shaman in nature, they can't stop you
Same with priest in shadow
Can't fear or silence or mc or dispersion
tulip pelican
whats looking like the best pvp leggo for feral?
Eye of symetrie is pretty dope
you combine that with berserk, and after a 5 point finishing move, you already at 4 cp. Make you able to land 3 max bites in a short time
bronze trout
@lament citrus in the inn at oribos it’s like 20k mana in 20s
Anyone having trouble with afflocks, (playing resto in 2’s with a uh dk)
Feels like i’m putting out a wildfire with a squirt gun
chrome panther
tell your uhdk to press his buttons better.
afflock should be free win for resto/uhdk
mystic lintel
whats the consesus on balance druid pvp legendary?
im running timeworn dreambinder but seems like most high elo boomies are running balance of all things?
clear pulsar
Chanimal corkiy and maro all went Dreambinder
And prev has the CA proc
Glyph and supatease are the only ones I can see with BOAT
Great company, says a lot about you @vestal citrus
mystic lintel
@clear pulsar ty, dreambinder feels pretty good. I was just a little confused after looking at those guys
simple latch
Solomon went boat
The beautiful thing is if you aren’t upgrading to 235 you can have all three
If you keep them at 190
Then just start upgrading the one you like most
clear pulsar
But then no offspecs
I just want to be able to play any lego with any covenant on any spec
simple latch
Pfft off specs full chicken
clear pulsar
These rerolls are bullshit
chrome panther
brisk pumice
Is Dreambinder even that noticeable?
blissful belfry
I crit a full moon for 16k in a convoke. (preceded by a 11k surge and followed by another 11k surge) in 0,5 sec. But its against trash that dont stop convoke
true pendant
Stopping 38k dmg in 0.5 sec?
blissful belfry
gotta stun meh!
lime light
legit bronze golian ape
if u think
thats not broken
ahh just kick it
🙂
ofc
los the chaos bolt
🙂
vale crystal
what do you guys think the best defensive conduit is?
whi or tough as bark?
or something else
lime light
freanzy regen one
balmy sparrow
WHI
astral ginkgo
whats the go-to boomkin pvp trinket rn?
chrome panther
on-use int.
blissful belfry
What i find funny is podtender. half of the games people forget to finnish the podtender seed and i revive
blissful belfry
tru
lime light
XD
blissful belfry
whenever i win cuz of pod i feel disgusting and it makes me wanna concede
But hen i remember the other team is garbage for not killing it and i continue
chrome panther
its pretty hilarious in 2s as resto
legit wins games against double dps sometimes if i messup gcd and flop
blissful belfry
yeah, its funny, especially when theres a sub rogue that just one shotted you and tries to finish your seed, but your warrior bladestorms guard your body and he has to run away and let you rez
rose ivy
What's the conventional wisdom on weapons? I'm 167 feral w/ 158 weapon, don't do any m0's, but can run some heroics. Should I buy/upgrade the honor weapon or wait for conquest?
rose ivy
Trying to prioritize
hollow junco
I would prioritize honor wep anyways, conquest wep is 4 weeks out
unless in that month you'll only get like 3 pieces of honor gear lmao
late sluice
I was thinking like 2 spells a second instead of 4
open verge
convoke is getting gutted
hollow junco
Lol
open verge
balance is not going to turn into shit if they just nerf convoke dude
they pump even harder as kyrian
hollow junco
I hope just convoke gets nerfed cuz base boomy is fucking lit rn
open verge
they might touch starsurge dmg tho
fervent gull
Resto pvp leggo?
fervent gull
My man
true pendant
Wait for nerfs
crisp cedar
@vagrant hawk let them open on your partner, keep him alive, LOS the mage, pray your dps can kill the rogue
You could try bash into cyclone on the mage. Although they could trinket + interrupt and you’ll be in for a bad time especially if the rogue is on you
modern helm
As a feral, what leggo do I want? And what partner do I want?
Or better question: who's a good source of basic feral pvp info?
vagrant hawk
@crisp cedar ye that's what I try but sometimes he puts smoke+stun on my mate so I need to go in and from here I get blind etc...
Like there are some good mage/rogue and some bad ones so it depends on the situation
forest moss
going up against sub rogue as feral is giving me some mop vibes with pvp. I have to trinket+bear/thorns and regen and hope I live through their 4 sec burst window from master assassin's mark 😦
then kite and burst after their cloak/vanish reset done. I've only killed a handful of subs :((
vestal rain
Hey lads, how are ferals atm in 2s/3s? Seem quite bursty sometimes imo
Considering lvling my druid to 60
candid moth
its pretty good
molten venture
Does the seed from Podtender show up on raid frames as a pet?
just learned that you can heal that shit to keep it alive
mystic scroll
Can druids use tiger dash while holding the flag?
molten venture
You can but holding the flag limits your max movespeed I believe
stone nest
I’ll never drop wild charge in pvp
haughty compass
Renewal because I am bad
shrewd fossil
newbie to pvp question
should I swap my pve gear for the vendor one if im doing arenas?
stat-wise
tiny bluff
You should try to get like 15%+ vers
Otherwise its not really that much of a matter
(thats for feral, dunno bout other specs)
molten venture
Do we know if the pvp trinket set bonus actually works?
dense oxide
if someone is casting hybernate on me in cat form and I shift out does it still work?
sick bear
do ferals have to run leader of the pack?
clear pulsar
Not really. It's ok, but the healing portion of it was definitely more useful in BFA than it is now.
Fero wound is rly the only talent that's a must pmuch every game
LOTP is still good ofc
sick bear
interesting. fero wound makes sense. 5% crit just seems like so much to lose.
clear pulsar
Thorns is a must vs melees
Third slot lotp is good, strength of the wild is good, sometimes savage momentum is good
It depends on matchup
Like against sub rogue I always go SOTW
For the extra hp in bear
sick bear
yea SOTW is one of my go tos + guardian affin. surviving the burst meta is hard enough as it is. I cant imagine not having those.
fair moth
Not sure if I should ask this here or feral, but what legendary would be the best for both feral pve and pvp, leaning towards pvp over pve, if I were crafting a single feral legendary?
clear pulsar
All the legendaries that are good in pve are usable in pvp too
Symmetry is the pick for a lot of ferals in pvp rn but it's not as good in pve
clear pulsar
Curio is best nowhere
Why would you go a decent lego in all when you can go bis in one and still decent in the rest?
Like apex or circle
clear pulsar
Circle is bis in m+ 100%
patent cradle
but dmg is less frontloaded
clear pulsar
Also good for all specs
patent cradle
which is not so good for pvp
clear pulsar
Just don't make Frenzybrand
And you're alright tbh
Doesn't matter too much
Symmetry is nice when you don't get fucked with the 20% chance to not get 2 cps
Cuz you biting at 4
obtuse ice
Biting at 4 not that bad
obtuse ice
ah ye
balmy sparrow
rip[
patent cradle
can i save the arena quest for next week im already conq capped
clear pulsar
The pvp quests are weekly and rotate between skirms/regular bgs/epic bgs
I don't think you can save them for a quicker conquest cap
But a daily win in each of those (skirm and both bg brackets) should get you conquest cap before the week is over
hoary ledge
Let’s go only starfall / boat nerfs
remote cave
Any1 use Rip and Tear as Feral pvp talent?
half juniper
every boomy are going troll ?
clear pulsar
I try it out every now and then but it feels kinda not good. Costs too much energy tbh. @remote cave
@half juniper tauren/nightelf
clear pulsar
Cuz people pve
And troll is good in pve
Tru
Looks terrible in most mogs
Troll women cute feet
Me dat kind of orc
forest moss
Troll balance for pvp is nioce
remote cave
Thanks boo @clear pulsar
obtuse ice
Moonkin prob have dead brain cells
unique forge
Does Circle lego mean that it drops off your target faster, or the ticks within the 15 seconds of a lifebloom are 15% in total
like, will i have to be reapplying hots more often?
clear pulsar
It makes it faster yeah
Same total, 15% shorter time.
Same healing per cast, more healing per second.
unique forge
And is that the new meta for pvp resto? Seems nice for this amount of burst happening, but at the same time verdant infusion seems top tier as well.
unique forge
Yeah i just can't decide which one to get
radiant forge
