pvp

[open verge]

youre holding off on crafting it?

[keen bear]

i've yet to get it, tired of running mists

too many idiots mess up the maze bit cause they don't know how it works and it's honestly such a tilting dungeon

[latent gust]

Anyone know stat prio for resto pvp?

[sand spade]

Which healer would live if my Warr friend used Kyrian spear (cant leave circle) + Whirlwind, my solar beam + FoE + SS spam?

[granite jolt]

How do you guys thinking about balance of all things in PvP? Good or not worth to craft?

[sand spade]

Seems like a solid kill combo

[open verge]

you used to be able soulshape out of that

[sand spade]

Can you still?

[open verge]

dunno

either way no one plays nf

[hoary ledge]

@open verge honestly a good ww feels bad 1v1 as boomy. I try and get them to use tigers lust ASAP, they pretty much guarantee connect on me so bear skin thorns and cancel aura if he karmas thorns

If they’re good it’s really hard to create space, If they’re bad it’s free

Hope you juke them, land a clone and get AP up by casting into clone

[open verge]

I dont think its possible to win that

yeah perhaps if you can get a clone out

[hoary ledge]

Yeah imo prob hardest match up

if you can juke and get clone you have a chance

But yeah I /pray they are bad when I randomly have one serpent kick onto me in open world

You can semi outplay since cancel roll is gone, like just hope they over commit to the roll and you create some breathing room and typhoon off so they are slowed

It’s just wack because we have to play near perfect and they don’t so yeah xD

I feel like everything will get better with that auto frenzy conduit tho

[open verge]

its not that much better

if they just use everything youre gone no matter what

but guess these are ww issues and not really boomie issues

[hoary ledge]

Yeah it’ll help no doubt but ww is just a feelsbad matchup rn

[dense edge]

is there a macro that when you press it it targets enemy player but if you press it again it also changes them to your focus target?

[hoary ledge]

Like a mouse over set focus? Yes

[open verge]

I think he means like tab that switches between focus and target

[dense edge]

yea like 1 press = change target to that player and then press number 2 makes that player your focus target

[tardy hare]

yeah but you need to define who you want to target

like

/focus```

i think?

idk doesnt really make sense for it to target first and then focus

[snow quarry]

is pvp 171 gear better than pve 184 gear for pvp?

[patent dove]

No

[keen bear]

i think he means like maybe with modifiers

[chrome panther]

mainstat is so overvalued for resto rn its not, ilvl > all but try and snipe pieces with haste/vers.

[open verge]

imho youre better off with highest ilvl atm

[keen bear]

or at least thats the only way I can think of that makes sense for a macro like that

[obtuse ice]

GZ ME

[open verge]

gz pver

[keen bear]

nice my man

[obtuse ice]

~ 15

tries

or more

didn't counted

[keen bear]

I gave up on mine after 40

ill get it when i get it i gues

[tranquil dove]

is necro still best for resto?

[obtuse ice]

Imma craft it

Next week

Idk if we can

[tardy hare]

15 tries?

[keen bear]

Yes

[tardy hare]

[fervent gull]

If your 184 gear has no vers then yes, the 171 is a huge improvement

[tranquil dove]

tyty

[tardy hare]

i got curio first time i did it

rofl

[keen bear]

yall are making me sad how lucky u all are

[tardy hare]

am not even gonna use it

xd

[obtuse ice]

called rng macthig ^^

[sour prawn]

yeah i got curio earlier on my second time ahaha

[tardy hare]

wheres curio even from again

[snow quarry]

ok thanks

[sour prawn]

didnt even know it existed

[tardy hare]

first boss of dung right

[obtuse ice]

yes kintara

[tardy hare]

idk just do it on mythic once and get it

smh

[obtuse ice]

cool story

[tardy hare]

[obtuse ice]

just giving what you were looking for

[forest kite]

Does anyone know if dreambinder procs off of starsurges shot with convoke?

[tardy hare]

[keen bear]

convoke in pvp as boomy

[forest kite]

Mistakes were made ok

[open verge]

just reroll now

should catch up in no time

[normal tide]

convoke is funz

[keen bear]

funz to get kicked, and funz to hit the wrong target unintentionally

[normal tide]

ye

i only win because of rng

[surreal heron]

fortunately convoke tries not to hit cc'd

or ooc

[chrome panther]

Yeah but the moment convoke rails 4 starsurges and 1 full moon into some nerd is enough for me to take it

[forest kite]

I think it still blasts at cyclone targets alot

[normal tide]

learnt that the hard way

[keen bear]

it hits pets and totems and clones yea

it's not accurate at all in pvp

i dont see convoke being used in anything outside of duels and maybe 2s, and that's a big maybe

[surreal heron]

probably expected in lower ratings

[sand spade]

I wish I was Kyrian, I even play my Boomy like I was Kyrian, I never use Convoke in PvP haha

My damage comes from my 1 min CDs

[keen bear]

yea it lines up perfect with rootbeam

it's an ez pick

comparing all the covenants, kyrian is a clear cut pick for boomy. Sure convoke can pump if it manages to hit the right target, but's such a gimmicky spell that you would need to be isolated and los of everyone else, or the target would have to be an idiot to let it get cast on them

[sand spade]

Unfortunately Kyrian sims 350 dps less than NF for me 😦

I need the DPS for Mythic Raiding 😦 Otherwise I would be Kyrian all the way

[keen bear]

well i wish you the best of luck in pvp then my dude

[sand spade]

Thanks, I am playing with a Warr so I need it xD

[forest kite]

Doesnt the kyrian ability attribute the dps from it to the other person?

I think sims assume you're bonded to another boomy

[keen bear]

it's lone empowerment you want, it's a flat 15% damage buff to yourself every minute for 10s

more than enough to burst someone down when their healer is in a root beam, or at least get some cds

[forest kite]

is necrolord still best for rdruid pvp arena ?

[visual forum]

what are the best talents for resto in 2s with an unh dk?

[keen bear]

the idea is you have something for every solar beam, more consistent gos than just relying on incarn

[open verge]

@keen bear so the idea is to just poolAP, root beam healer and go dps

[keen bear]

ye exactly

[open verge]

what about resto druid tho

[keen bear]

3321132 is the standard 2s talents for resto

[open verge]

I mean they can just leave the root

[keen bear]

oh then u just bash

[sand spade]

I would pick bash and charge with guardian affinity Vs resto Druid. Charge bash cyclone kill target? Or charge incap shout cyclone if you don't want to take bash

[keen bear]

i mean that can work ye, but generally always go mass entangle unless it's a druid, then play bash

[sand spade]

Playing with a Warr so I should just always go root right?

[lime light]

arcane mage just did a 16k barrage thro 80% AMZ

lmao

[keen bear]

would be wasted against a druid but yeah, you could storm bolt resto druid then clone off that, then swap clone to the kill target low

i dunno tho boomy is generally better with another caster like an sp or ele

[alpine meadow]

what talents and pvptalents do I take for Feral Pvp?

[keen bear]

ill let someone else answer that, not my department

[tardy hare]

Sabertooth, wild charge, rest/guard aff, mighty bash, soul, brutal slash, feral frenzy

[stray sigil]

literally same spec u used in bfa

can change ff for bt

[alpine meadow]

Thanks~

[open verge]

I wouldnt, ff is so good

but damn, healers in 3s are just melted in 10s

[severe python]

What legos are people leaning towards for feral? Symmetry? Or is cat eye good?

[open verge]

symmetyr

[simple ridge]

what legendary for resto in 3s?

[severe python]

@chrome panther

[mint vessel]

So boomy arena leggo def timeworn for NF druid?

[sand spade]

Yeah, it pumps

Obviously you can go BOAT with Convoke and hope you don't get locked down on your 2 min go, but FoE with SS spam just pumps with Timeworn, just wish I was Kyrian to make it better

I can't, mythic raiding and I lose 300dps with Kyrian :S

On ST atleast

[mint vessel]

but Kyrian is fkn boring as sin compared to NF

[sand spade]

:O

[mint vessel]

;D

[alpine meadow]

Which Legendary for feral?

[sand spade]

OK, I will do it

[open verge]

symmetry @alpine meadow

[sand spade]

Kyrian better for Slug? :O

[alpine meadow]

Thanks~

[mint vessel]

What makes fury of skies good? Is there something I'm missing ? Tooltip says 1.2% increased dam

[sand spade]

thanks for the info, I might swap before Wed

[mint vessel]

Doesn't seem like a lot

[sand spade]

Does adventure Board progress matter?

Last question, how do you get renown? Is there a catch-up? Idk how I would farm 6k anima

I will have a think. Cheers for info

[manic temple]

whats the stat prio for boomie?

ah okay

thx!

[winter spindle]

SLG = Stone Legion Generals

[devout frost]

is that a new comp?

[winter spindle]

It’s a boss in Castle Nathria

[devout frost]

why is that in the pvp chat then

[chrome panther]

because it is

[sand spade]

Yeah, I looked it up after, thanks though

[sleek gorge]

sorry to bother i see boomkin pvp setup but is there one for feral?

[broken rover]

Whats the stats prior for feral??

In pvp

[open verge]

agi>>vers>mast>crit>haste

[broken rover]

Ty!!!

[devout frost]

haste over crit

[open verge]

top ferals say otherwise

but its not something you'll work towards anyway

[vague cave]

Just got the cats eye legendary. Is it bis for feral?

[open verge]

no, symmetry

[obtuse ice]

still no BiS currently

Need to see how evolve the meta

[last trout]

what is the drop chance of conduits in Mythic+ - can you get them from PvP aswell or do you need to farm dungeons..?

[hoary ledge]

Depends on the conduit

I know they recently tweaked Lego drop rate based on difficulty in Dungeons, not sure about conduits

[jaunty obsidian]

should i keep rocking necrolord for feral pvp or do i need to go night fae?

my dam weak

[hoary ledge]

Kyrian is hype

[chrome panther]

Kyrian is the way to go if your intending to just play dps.

[cold vale]

do you guys think moonkins are going to be expected/encouraged to have a solid guardian off-spec in high rated RBGs this xpac?

[hoary ledge]

Yo just saying Well-Honed Instincts is up for me as a Daily in revendreth

Surprised to see it but we'll take it lmao

and @cold vale just depends on the team, some might want you to flex it, definitely wouldn't hurt to be able to FC

[snow shard]

Really having hardtime choosing between Necrolord, Night fae and kyrian 😦

[cold vale]

okay. i hope dh's are the meta fc so i dont have to play any guardian 🙂

or prot warriors like cata hehe

[vast cloak]

I missed first week of torghast so i dont have symmetry legendary. Should I wait for that torghast wing to become available again and save soul ash or craft another legendary? ( i play feral pvp)

[noble holly]

Is there a possible addon (maybe weakaura) to tell me when Im being target for a poly?

[forest kite]

Feral pvp stat priority?

[chrome panther]

vers > mast > crit > haste.

[dense edge]

i hate playing against DKs all their pets clutter the screen and I cant tell whats going on

[clear pulsar]

Primal wrath them kids and watch Apex proc every 3s

I love playing against dks

[obtuse ice]

You took apex too face

[clear pulsar]

Ofc brother

If we aren't memeing 6 bites in one convoke + bite bite frenzy bite

Are we even playing feral?

[obtuse ice]

yhea lol

Apex doesn't stack right?

[twilit umbra]

Hello Everyone, what is the best lego to go for pvp (focus on arenas)

playing with a Ret/Holy

[obtuse ice]

What is your spec mate

[twilit umbra]

Sorry, feral

[obtuse ice]

3? 2s ?

[clear pulsar]

No only one proc at a time

[twilit umbra]

3s

[clear pulsar]

Most people are buying the Tigers Fury one, Symmetry of something

[obtuse ice]

Currently people crafted Either Apex Ether Symmetry

but I can see curio being good later on depending on gameplay

I think between those 3 make your choice it's not much important right now

Just take what you think is fun/could be cool to play

[twilit umbra]

is pvp stat priot still vers > mast > crit > haste.

[coarse kayak]

yea

[safe heart]

legendary for pvp healing?

[vestal radish]

Which is better for world PvP and BGs? Balance or Feral?

[chrome panther]

feral for world, balance for bgs imo

starfall does stupid damage and you can carry alone if they dont get a chance to shut you down

[slender tinsel]

pvp stat prio for resto? 😮

[clear pulsar]

Glyph

You expert now

Damn

This place rly gone down the shitter

They should give me expert I beat a triple rank 1 team in skirms the other night

Don't tell me max is here

[balmy sparrow]

Guys

WE NEED to unite

all druids

this is important, season is about to go live with one of our core utility spells being improperly coded

[clear pulsar]

Haha

Are you talking about roar?

[feral drift]

not really liking dreambinder so far

[balmy sparrow]

Incapacitating Roar currently functions as a front non aoe melee attack

which it simply is not.

[clear pulsar]

Yeah it gets parried

Big sad vs ww

[balmy sparrow]

Intimidating Shout is properly coded. it goes through PArry/Dodge mechanics, as it should as it in not a physical attack

I call upon my fellow druids to open tickets in the bug submit section

WE NEED TO GET INCAP ROAR FIXED

Please take the time out of your day to do this. Incap roar is a very crucial part of the Druid Guardian affinity toolkit.

I think Dreambinder is the best option. The problem with the +crit one is while yes it would make ur incarn super deadly, you typically arent going to be in an eclipse when you pop out with rootbeam every minute, as you will likely find yourself in bear in your down time

and from what ive seen in skirms thus far, my entire match is just Root beam, kyrian fury incarn and once incarn is down its just way safer to sit bear if someone is on me until next beam kyrian fury go... in which you get to pump big star surges out

Glyph is the real expert tho

[feral drift]

kyrian

eww!!

[balmy sparrow]

as cool as night fae is i just dont see it being like that insane. Say you root beam or your partner paras or does some kind of break on damage cc to enemy healer and you convoke and dump a starfall, itll break the cc cause the enemy healer is still in combat with you, yes? idk thats just my thought on it

plus Kyrian just so good with 1 min cd

[clear pulsar]

Morph is necrolord like all men of culture

[feral drift]

im just convoke one shotting til it doesnt work anymore for free wins

its just funny and fun i guess lol

[balmy sparrow]

i mean a feral got a full convoke on me earlier, no bear just bark and it literally took me from 90 to like maybe 50

just shitty rng convoke

[feral drift]

yeah ahah

[balmy sparrow]

not worth considering right now u get 1 per match

[feral drift]

but sometimes as balance u get like 5 starsurges

[balmy sparrow]

maybe if games lasted 5 mins but

[clear pulsar]

Bro if they didn't 100-0 it's not rng

It's them being stupid

Probably canceled form or some shit

[balmy sparrow]

i think the highest damage combo u can do

no bull

is Balance feral affinity

huge bites and star surges

[clear pulsar]

It doesnt cast starsurges

If you're in cat form

[balmy sparrow]

u cast it in Balance form bro

and itll pop u into cat

for a bite

[clear pulsar]

You can't shift to cat form in the middle of the cast

[balmy sparrow]

then back to boomy for a surge

it does it automatically, or at least for balance guardian affin it does

i dont see why feral affin would be any diff

like at the end of balance convoke with G aff

mobs would have like 2 stacks thrash and shit

[clear pulsar]

It can cast thrash in any form

It can not cast bite in any form

Only cat form

It can cast rake tho in caster

Which is garbanzo ofc

[mental compass]

excuse me fellas... are we doing bt or FF in dungeons?

[clear pulsar]

This is #pvp

[mental compass]

ooops XD

[clear pulsar]

But neither

[mental compass]

my b

[clear pulsar]

MoC

BT is awkward in aoe, FF is fine and I imagine it's competitive if you're necrolord

But MoC in dungeons

[hasty dome]

can't take arena serious until something is done about sub rogues

[feral drift]

rogues are fine

they just have high damage and insane control

and can reset fights

thats okay!!

[clear pulsar]

And 100% evasion and magic immunity

And better mobility and slow than any other melee almost

[safe heart]

1v2 potential for days

[feral drift]

will circle of life and death stack with the necrolord ?

[clear pulsar]

They're completely different effects

[heady pivot]

any feral pvp guides?

[obtuse ice]

https://www.wowhead.com/feral-druid-pvp-guide

[hoary ledge]

Buff boomy xD

[obtuse ice]

??

[hoary ledge]

Trolling ofc

[frank crown]

Can you still hibernate shamans in ghost wolf?

[obtuse ice]

Still?

yes you can.

[frank crown]

Yeah used to be able to so wasn't sure

[livid heart]

All these people coming at convoke 4second channel (interruptable) ... but crickets when it comes to double tap aimed shot smh

[small storm]

idk a lot of people are getting 100% to 0 with 1 hunter opener

[light night]

Is feral the go to for wpvp right now?

[clear pulsar]

Idk what crickets you're hearing

Everywhere I go and see pvp talk everyone agrees that mm and sub are out of line

Some places people agree that ret and spriest are also out of line

[tiny oar]

Swear every spec in the game is pumping but sub and mm r the worst of it ya

Otherwise it'd be pretty chill

Unless ur like a fury warr lol

[hoary ledge]

Who isn’t complaining about hunters? I see it every day

Yeah it’s wild out there rn

[clear pulsar]

The damage to hp delta is fucked yes, but mm and sub have basically 2 global 100-0

Which nothing else does

Yeah same with ret

And maybe arms sometimes

But like

If they increased hp by the 20% extra we had in the heart of azeroth

It'd feel much better

But those specs would still be out of line

[balmy sparrow]

Idk about feral but I think Boomy is in a fine spot for arena Tuesday. You’ll have your endurance SB as Pelagos Kyrian so you’ll have cheat death on 75 sec CD

That plus pre bear plus bark should get u through some openers

[chrome panther]

wait till monk gets its 33% haste on celestial legendary.

[balmy sparrow]

Might still have to trinket renewal though who knows

[chrome panther]

nothing survives master assassin sub opener right now

[balmy sparrow]

It definitely needs a tune down but I managed to live a from stealth sub fire mage combustion today, had to pre bear bark at 100 trinket renewal at end and cast regen and scraped by at like 12% hp till my healer left the poly@lul

But that’s why I don’t play warlock anymore

Cuz even 100% unending resolve doesn’t save u there p sure

[clear pulsar]

Nothing survives master assassin sub opener with

[balmy sparrow]

It’s nerfed by like 60%

[chrome panther]

does 60% less damage in pvp.

Would still deal 10k as sub rogue though

🤷 s1 is always a mess

[balmy sparrow]

I’m already at 20% vers at 181, prolly be like 25% next Tuesday I hope

[chrome panther]

be prepared to assume every rogue is an fotm rerolling mouthbreather until they get the axe

[balmy sparrow]

Pvp right now is so funny tho

I was Qing Boomy Sub Rsham and we kept Qing into Sub fire disc and normally we would wait for@mage invis but

They just killed our rsham in opener in like half a global

[hoary ledge]

Lmao

[balmy sparrow]

So we found that we had to open their disc priest lol to force the rogue to stop my rogue

[tiny oar]

Feel like sub boomie should be able to peel that rmp opener pretty well tho

Just triple cheap into incap roar or clones on trinkets if any

[clear pulsar]

Yeah with 100% crit that's still 10k damage, which would be about 20-25% of people's HP at 220 ilvl or so

[lime light]

U can easly Die to solo rogue

Just in Opener without pve trinket yet

Imagine if there is a magus that press 3 random globals

And a disc priest

[chrome panther]

Play with arms war, trinket night fae blink opener, warrior spear stops step/shadowstrike 🙂

then they blind you and kill your warrior!

[hoary ledge]

Played some boomy war tonight felt good actually

Warrior is scary

[tiny oar]

Yea warrs are absolute fucking trucks

Tsg looks nuts grip spear of bastion play sum whitechapel n start the mosh pit

[hoary ledge]

Yeah definitely not nearly as fun as dwts

I know boomy mm is a meme but it was so fun the other night

While it lasts lmao

wtf

that’s nice

[clear pulsar]

Spear into necro grips

Yeah had this warrior in a bg jump into the graveyard

Drop spear into bladestorm

Killed 5 people

Just like that

I wanna level my warrior just for shits and giggles

But it'll get nerfed 100%

Yeah the pvp talents are nasty

[lime light]

execute

is the juice

[clear pulsar]

Intervene spell reflect

[lime light]

the biggest juicer

and chad

in this game

legit with 182 ilvl

u can crit for almost 10k

[clear pulsar]

I'm gonna make a horde warrior on malganis can you run my warr thru heroic raid at some point to get the lego powers? @tiny oar

[lime light]

idk

but iam too old school

to not play rend

🙂

so 20%

[clear pulsar]

Yeah I can't take Massacre

When it's on same tier as Rend bro

I'm feral

[lime light]

yes

armor kits

works in arena?

[feral drift]

any balance druid ttv links

👀

[tiny oar]

@clear pulsar I'll b pugging hc so if u wanna get trapped af sure lol

@feral drift corki n prev are both good 2 watch

[lime light]

murican and good

[clear pulsar]

Yeah that's fine I just want someone to play with tbh if I go horde

[feral drift]

@tiny oar links 👉 👈

[clear pulsar]

https://www.twitch.tv/corkiri

[tiny oar]

[clear pulsar]

Chanimal

Famed boomie streamer

[tiny oar]

I'm swapping to necro simp on rdruid when I get home rly sad

Dmg just too fucked to not have swarm

Yea heard u can do dungeons n shit for renown right so

[clear pulsar]

Or I could just level my horde druid

As an alt

Hate leveling bro

[lime light]

queen simps

lmao

we dont want u anymore

in our heaven

[tiny oar]

Threads bono objectives suck ass yea.

[clear pulsar]

Adaptive swarm buffs the insta heal from Regrowth too btw

[lime light]

agree about leveling monkaS

i want simp druid too

night fae one

but not any time soon

now need to enjoy a game for a bit

[clear pulsar]

Adaptive Swarm counts as a hot for mastery yeah. And it also buffs the instant heal from Regrowth by 20% on top of mastery @tiny oar

Just tested on horde druid

[tiny oar]

I assume it's a mastery stack but even if it's not 20% increased effectiveness on bloom and rejuv germ is wild compared to rdruid convoke

[clear pulsar]

It's both

[tiny oar]

Yea thought so

[clear pulsar]

It's purgeable too tho unforch

And dispelable offensively

Big sad

[tiny oar]

Like it tops ppl if I get a full cast off but u can do that every swiftmend anyways

[clear pulsar]

Tf you mean what happens

It extends it

Swiftmend extend + CW + Adaptive

HUGE

You can't get 2 adaptives

[novel sky]

The swarms combine

[tiny oar]

Yea gl killing thru that shit u zug zug warrs

[clear pulsar]

It just adds the bounce count psure

[novel sky]

You just get more jumps

[clear pulsar]

Right

You can have multiple rolling on diff targets

Just not on same

Honestly bro I'm so close to rolling necro on main

[lime light]

no

[clear pulsar]

LI FF BRO

[tiny oar]

The fuk

[clear pulsar]

Circle + necro big juice

Never press bite or shred

Only thrash rake moonfire rip

[lime light]

playing that build

is like pissing on someone

and asking him if it hurts

[tiny oar]

Emotionally mayb

[lime light]

😐

[surreal heron]

Don't piss on people

[tiny oar]

Thx thyme

[surreal heron]

You got it buddy

[tiny oar]

U just love coming up with the wackiest shit f2f

I need a taste for blood to actually bite ppl

[small storm]

nostalgia feral build is weak dps sadly

[clear pulsar]

It's fine

I can just heal in pve

Not like I'll get invited to anything as feral anyway

[tiny oar]

Didn't u hear from that random youtuber who does 1 +10 no leaver key an expac, feral is bad bro haha

[hushed bluff]

Feral is bis

[teal hinge]

A poochunk

[stray forge]

does Celestial Guardian increase the healing from Renewal, Phial, and Frenzied Regen?

[clear pulsar]

That is extremely easy to test bro

[stray forge]

i know but if someone already knows then that saves me the trouble

looks like frenzy is increased

[tiny oar]

Yugioh n MTG turned me into a professional tooltip reader, I ain't even need to test that shit to say ya it'll work

[stray forge]

ill trust you because you rep the lakers

[lime light]

how to lower

the eye of the jailer

[tiny oar]

Relog @lime light

Or just be a gamer n handle it

[lime light]

rly

pog

idk as warrior i cant even dodge the bombara

running in a 70% slow

like playing into assa rogue

or dk

[tiny oar]

[lime light]

its not gone

[tiny oar]

Sum1 told me relogging works dam

[lime light]

i even died few times to test if it resets on death

[tiny oar]

I just do my dailies n get the fuck out of that shithole so ain't even gotta deal with level 5

[clear pulsar]

[tidal linden]

is it better to go 2H or 1H/OH for resto or boomy?

[tiny oar]

I dont even watch basketball it's a juicy j reference, dont tell anyone tho it's a secret

Since theres no more sockets, assuming equal ilvl n stats doesn't rly matter @tidal linden otherwise just depends what stats r on em both

If it's like a 20 ilvl upgrade just throw it on prolly

[lime light]

u guys remember

what was the name

of the tier 3 set's toy

[tiny oar]

Yea that's juice I'm using this horseshit haste mast world quest staff atm

What r u talking about tian lol

[clear pulsar]

My wep is literally 168

Cuz i cba with buying an honor weapon that will get replaced immediately tuesday

And costs 3k honor just to get a 3 ilvl increase

[tidal linden]

and yup thats what I was wondering... havent gotten any weapons on a mythic world tour so buying a pvp weapon

[clear pulsar]

I legit got 3 items total out of my 8 mythics this week

[tidal linden]

thx!

I can't complain, I got 10 drops but like 2 of those were guardian trinkets

[rain field]

has anyone noticed that with the roots+beam opener, convoke will not cast any offensive spells at the atrgets and only heals?

[tiny oar]

Lol u got shit on my shammys 175 in one reset @clear pulsar

[clear pulsar]

I'm 174

But with a legendary and darkmoon deck

[tiny oar]

U need to be in combat @rain field

Rdruid leggo is from a world boss

Still 178 without it tho

[lime light]

@tiny oar https://shadowlands.wowhead.com/item=179393/mirror-of-envious-dreams

nvm

i even got it smh

LMAO

[rain field]

ah so I'd just fix that by casting a moonfire on em right before the convoke?

[tiny oar]

Yea

[clear pulsar]

Just make the lifebloom one in the meantime

And play photo

[tiny oar]

Rofl absolutely nope

[clear pulsar]

It'll be like 3 weeks til u get the world boss one bro

[tiny oar]

I'll make circle if I get enough ash for 2 leggos

[clear pulsar]

Watch the world boss lego not even be 100% drop

Then you'll go 2 months without it

[lime light]

[tiny oar]

Lol that would suck, they confirmed are tho

Unless its bugged on release but we all know blizz that would never happen

[lime light]

no, the biggest suck will be

when it wont be 100%

and u kill it

u get ID

and they change it

at some point to 100%

at the end of the week

but u cant get it anymore, cuz u already killed it

[tiny oar]

[lime light]

the blizzard special

[tiny oar]

Love getting fucked by ion favorite activity

[clear pulsar]

Do you have plans for what comp you wanna play on feral? @lime light

[lime light]

yes

polish french jungle

but i would like to play something else

there will be more ferals comps for sure

cuz feral is gonna be good

once dmg is a bit lower

survi hunter jungle

[clear pulsar]

I lowkey wanna play kitty cleave

Vortex + spear

[lime light]

ok vortex spear

now imagine

perma grip + spear

with chill streak rolling

[tiny oar]

With an rdruid 🧠

[lime light]

yes

or mw

[clear pulsar]

Now imagine

LI PW Necro

Big rot

[lime light]

ye

lmao

every arms can outheal it

with ignore pain

[tiny oar]

Ur frying me bro lol

Just take a boomie at that point lmao

[lime light]

or affi

[clear pulsar]

Oh hell yeah bro

LI SR FF Necro with affli

[lime light]

is it too late

to save him

[analog dust]

what is afflic feral comp called

[clear pulsar]

Feral lock?

[analog dust]

is that cuz it can run with any healer?

[clear pulsar]

You can play anything with any healer to whatever rating

Just take the healer that's best atm

If you must

[analog dust]

what does LF usually run with

gotcha

[lime light]

FLS

my favorite comp

[analog dust]

just wondered if it had a cool name

[lime light]

in whole game

[analog dust]

im always amused by comp names

like african turtle cleave

[unique forge]

Is there anything druids can do to escape Warrior's Spear of Bastian"?

[analog dust]

clench those cheeks and bite the pillow

[tiny bluff]

Is 2s gonna be a slaughterfest with double dps comps? I’m unsure with the current state of burst lol

[untold blaze]

does rsham riptide+earth shield just outheal every druid hot on someone

[lime light]

u dont wanna know the

[analog dust]

aka bite the pillow that warriors going in dry

[lime light]

double dk comp name

[unique forge]

Like, some classes can escape the spear once they're in it right? Druid's can't wild charge out?

[analog dust]

hitler/stalin cleave @lime light

[novel sky]

You can’t wild charge/soulshape out I know that

I haven’t seen anyone escape a spear

I bet a monk could portal it

[analog dust]

wait what if u just ring of peace the spear

[novel sky]

I thought I got out with soulshape and I got succd back in

[analog dust]

that way the warrior can never enter

:^ )

without bladestorming ofc

[tiny bluff]

Perfect cockblock 👍

[novel sky]

Dk with abom limb

War with spear

Going nowhere

It’s hilarious

[analog dust]

https://gyazo.com/98fb9ad7fb54d554989b301919bdc6f6

PogChamp

and here i thought my only comp was jungle

[clear pulsar]

Feral protpala that can give you immunity so you guarantee get convoke off

[analog dust]

i wanna try it

[lime light]

hpal feral also

100% convoke

[analog dust]

bloodlust during berserk

[clear pulsar]

Hpal can't give you bubble

[analog dust]

oh fuck yes

[lime light]

bop + aura mastery @clear pulsar

kid

and sac

[clear pulsar]

But feral enhance hpal could

[lime light]

so make sure u dont kaput

[clear pulsar]

Grounding

Bop

Immune to magic and phys

[analog dust]

hex

clone

[lime light]

just aura mastery

[clear pulsar]

Aura mastery doesn't immune to cc tho

[analog dust]

bait kicks

[clear pulsar]

Sheep etc

Coil

Also hella offheals

[lime light]

cant be sheep

IF U FERAL

ok sorry

u guys making me angry sometimes

for no reason

😳

[clear pulsar]

Hibernate then

You dingus

Scare beast

[lime light]

cant scare me

too alpha

[stray sigil]

beta rusky

[clear pulsar]

I just killed myself on mindgames with one swiftmend crit from 50% to 0

[devout frost]

[stray sigil]

[novel sky]

Rip

[lime light]

mindgames

are capped

at 5-6k

KID

[clear pulsar]

They're not

Oh

It was just the mindgame initial hit

Plus the heal turned damage

[lime light]

yes

there is a X dmg

• Y (max heal dmg)

scales with main stats and versa

yes

[clear pulsar]

Just the moment I pressed swiftmend I saw a big 11k and died

[obtuse ice]

Bring back masterful instincts

BfA nostalgia

This is too early..

[worldly mantle]

Current thoughts on bis legendary for arenas? BOAT, pulsar, dreambinder and circle (for dot cleaves) all seem viable, what do you think will be bis?

[obtuse ice]

Don't think anyone can predict

[clear pulsar]

People in pve think boat will get nerfed

Cuz it's way out of line with everything else

[worthy osprey]

hey guys:)
I've played a lot of skirmishes just to get some kind of a feeling for Convoke the spirits but beeing matched against other glad+ Players rarely occurs.. but if it does, getting a good convoke of is certainly hard af.. and playing around it just doesnt feel right.. I've thought about going kyrian a lot of times now & b4 i'd do it I hoped to have some1 in here that already plays/played kyrian in skirmishes and has some Arena XP to tell me his/her thoughts about kyrian in high ranked pvp

talking about Balance druid btw:)

[devout frost]

Kyrian is the best covenant for boomie @worthy osprey

[clear pulsar]

Kyrian's by far the most reliable

[devout frost]

Its s 15% dmg Amp for ur burst

Sure its boring as shit but doesnt make it bad

[clear pulsar]

If people go Night Fae it's solely because of flavor or pve

[devout frost]

Or because they play more than one spec

[lime light]

kyrian 🙂

[clear pulsar]

Multispecing in pvp would never have you going night fae

[safe heart]

i feel like i asked like 3 or 4 days ago and night fae was the answer

convoke is pretty fun tho

[devout frost]

@clear pulsar multispeccing in general

[safe heart]

atleast for resto/feral

[clear pulsar]

If anyone told you that night fae was bis in pvp they were trolling you or hadn't tested much

[devout frost]

I dont know a lot of people that multispec in PvP

[safe heart]

should i be switching covenant for resto pvp if i went night fae then

[clear pulsar]

I said flavor or pve

[devout frost]

But for most PvE content its the best for tanking or healing and good for feral/boomie

[clear pulsar]

Yes

I said pve

[devout frost]

@safe heart pref want Necro as resto

[lime light]

if u are a disgisting maw daily quest spammer

u gonna pee

your bed at night

[devout frost]

NF is good in skirmishes tbf @safe heart

[clear pulsar]

Tf you mean spammer it's like 3 dailies

[devout frost]

Where ppl forget they have a kick button

[lime light]

yes

its disgusting

not allowed

[devout frost]

[clear pulsar]

Why?

[devout frost]

Im maw sweatlord

[clear pulsar]

It doesn't even do anything for pvp

LOL

Why do maw dailies bother you?

[lime light]

cuz i hate them

something that i can do

but i dont want to

bothers me

[clear pulsar]

Then don't do them

[lime light]

cuz its there

and i dont wanna do it

but i kinda do

cuz its there

KURWA

sorry

[devout frost]

Sockets dont do anything for PvP? @clear pulsar

[clear pulsar]

You don't need maw dailies for sockets

You just need to :gitgud

Wtf I left the server

That had gitgud emote

[safe heart]

so resto takes necrolord and feral would take kyrian?

[devout frost]

You need maw to farm sockets

@safe heart ye

[lime light]

my soul suffers

when there is s "!"

that can be done

[clear pulsar]

Then go do it

[lime light]

i dont want to

[clear pulsar]

You sound very beta rn bro ngl

[lime light]

no...

just big decisions

[clear pulsar]

Beta af

[tiny oar]

Dailies suck

Let me queue 10 hrs a day

Thx blizz

[clear pulsar]

Dailies are good for when you sit in lfg for 30 mins

[tiny oar]

Yea tru lol

[lime light]

so i get one renown from main story?

[worthy osprey]

okey thanks for all these comments on Kyrian/Nightfae in higher ranked arenas 🙂

[grand elm]

anyone decided on what lego they are going with for resto pvp

[tiny oar]

Verdant infusion swiftmend extends hots @grand elm

[vocal geyser]

how good is night fae for boomy in pvp ? seems a bit too random to be viable for me

[clear pulsar]

It's very gimmicky

[devout frost]

@vocal geyser bad

2 min cd get interrupted instantly

[vocal geyser]

ty

is kyrian bis then ?

[devout frost]

ye

[vocal geyser]

kyrian + pelagos because of the mastery increase

[devout frost]

kyrian for 15% dmg inc for ur burst

[unborn anchor]

what legendaries you guys using for feral pvp?

[tulip falcon]

symmetry or apex

seen people on ladder using both but seems like more use symmetry

[clear pulsar]

Symmetry is prob better simply cuz games are so short

[unborn anchor]

cat-eye curio has no value?

[tulip falcon]

yea atm games dont last long enough for apex to be useful lol

[clear pulsar]

Apex just doesn't have a chance to proc

[tulip falcon]

i regret it

[clear pulsar]

It might be good

I mean in practice

Symmetry and Curio both do something

[unborn anchor]

I think curio could be really useful in both types of content

[clear pulsar]

The difference prob won't make a difference between reaching a certain rating or not

[tulip falcon]

I wish I went for symmetry

I sorta regret apex

[clear pulsar]

But ultimately everyone went for symmetry or apex

[tulip falcon]

I've landed kills purely because it's procced before but

that doesn't always happen

[clear pulsar]

Yeah in 3s skirms it's nice

[tulip falcon]

symmetry is a lot more consistent

[clear pulsar]

In 2s skirms it never procs

They all end in 30s

[tulip falcon]

in normal 2s it'll be fine since everyone won't be double dps

[clear pulsar]

Yeah all legendaries are fine

Frenzy is the only one that's like "really?"

I think the issue with Cat-eye is that it requires big uptime to get value right?

Like Apex if Rip is rolling then it doesn't matter if you're spamming away Shreds

Or Symmetry it's specific damage in your burst window

[unborn anchor]

It doesnt really bring any extra damage, no

but felt like it could smooth some things out

[tulip falcon]

More finishers = more damage

which is what symmetry allows

[clear pulsar]

More resources = more damage

If you use those resources

[tulip falcon]

The meta is extremely bursty right now

[clear pulsar]

Cat eye technically improves your burst with Berserk

[tulip falcon]

Yeah but TF is a 30 sec cd

[clear pulsar]

Since it lets you use up more Shreds and Bites in a row without stopping

Doesn't matter if you win before 30s

I'm just chatting shit I don't have either of them

[tulip falcon]

Well actual rated games wont be 30 seconds

skirms are apemode

Yeah I'm recommending symm because I regret taking Apex lmao

[clear pulsar]

LOL

I don't tbh

If you think about it

Doing more dam in pve = people invite you back = more pve gear = win pvp

[tiny oar]

[open verge]

or just pvp

[tulip falcon]

[open verge]

I doubt getting a few pieces faster from wasting time on mindless pve grind will bar you from high rating if you're good

[clear pulsar]

It's a joke

YOu dingus

[open verge]

damn, missed it :/

[tiny oar]

Lol gottem

[clear pulsar]

[open verge]

youd be surprised what people say in this channel

ive done m0 and i already hate it

[tiny oar]

I dont mind dungos but pugging hc raids is a fucking nightmare sometimes

[tulip falcon]

not done any pve at all yet

[clear pulsar]

Yeah I like m+, not enough to play it everyday, but I like it. Hate prog raiding tbh.

[open verge]

yeah im just triggered when people still dont avoid shit on the floor in 2020

[tulip falcon]

just grinded 15k honor to wait for wed and spam upgrade my gear to 184

fuck pve gear

[open verge]

that

that's what im gonna do

I wonder how many pieces can we upgrade

havent done the maffs

[tulip falcon]

people are saying its 15k honor to upgrade rank 3 to rank 5 on all pieces

[clear pulsar]

I'm finishing up my 15k honor rn

[open verge]

oh that sounds perfect

then just go rated, get the best pieces for conq

[tulip falcon]

ye basically

[clear pulsar]

Lakerz in with the beautiful mathematics

[open verge]

27k is for full upgrades?

[tulip falcon]

well thats rank 6

we can only go to rank 5 next reset

[open verge]

from scratch or 3

[tulip falcon]

from scratch

[open verge]

uhm

only the first part is 14850

trinkets, rings, etc

[tiny oar]

Still sum math involved in that 1 sry

[open verge]

16500 for dmg trinkets and stuff

so 30k+ already

oh nvm, we go to rank 5

[tulip falcon]

ye

everyone has been saying 15k so looks about right

for rank 3-5

oh wait thats the currency cap anyway

[open verge]

I counted 27k

[sly meteor]

horde random bg is a struggle

[tulip falcon]

indeed

[open verge]

alliance is not better lately, more and more horde started queueing as alliance

it seems

[tulip falcon]

good thing merc mode exists

[open verge]

remove merc mode

[tiny oar]

Why remove

[clear pulsar]

This with a 2hander, not 1h and offhand

[open verge]

yeah so 15k is just from r4 to r5

and we still need 12,5k to go from r3 to r4

[clear pulsar]

Yeah but keep in mind

You don't have to upgrade everything ye?

[open verge]

yeah if we know the cap ill just leave out the items I can get for conq

[tulip falcon]

cap is 15k

[clear pulsar]

He's saying the conquest cap

[tulip falcon]

so explains why people are saying farm 15k 🙄

[open verge]

well the cap is 15k

so you cant farm more

[tulip falcon]

yeah

[clear pulsar]

The honor cap to have on your character is 15k but you can farm however much you want

If you spend it

[open verge]

can you buy items, cap more

[clear pulsar]

Conquest has a hard cap on how much you can earn per week

Yes

[tulip falcon]

yea of course

[open verge]

and then refund

😄

[clear pulsar]

Oh

[tulip falcon]

lmao well

[clear pulsar]

LOL

[tulip falcon]

2 hour refund time good luck

[open verge]

yeah...

[sly meteor]

imagine weekly conq cap of 100

[open verge]

750 confirmed

[tulip falcon]

RBGs gonna be best for conquest capping again so fine by me

[sly meteor]

can you raise it with rating?

[open verge]

we dont know

[tulip falcon]

i can around as a bear and get a high cap

[open verge]

you'll go guardian for rbgs?:d

[tulip falcon]

of course

shit is broken

[open verge]

nobody takes ferals anyway, right

[tulip falcon]

i got 2380ish last season as feral only

but it was rarely i got invited

only 2 groups that would

[open verge]

and what was your role

[tulip falcon]

was mainly playing objectives, wouldn't go teamfight

[open verge]

it only shows how determined you have to be to play a feral in pvp

[tulip falcon]

it's actually good on some maps

kotmogu, silvershard, flag maps mainly

base maps it sucks because it's basically a rogue that cant def

[open verge]

yeah..

[clear pulsar]

That's some snowflake shit

Feral's been good

Jungle was absurd late legion

[open verge]

yeah you have jungle 🙂

[clear pulsar]

It was really just the 2 middle seasons of BFA where feral was underrepresented

[tulip falcon]

WoD feral is the most I hope to ever see it represented

[clear pulsar]

In BFA ferals got rank 1 playing FMP, FLPal, Jungle, even Ret Feral psure

Cassidy may ahve got it on alt as kitty cleave too

[open verge]

well its not that bad then

and tbh feral's looking pretty good in sl

shit bleed pressure tho

[hushed bluff]

Big burst windows

[open verge]

but I dont think that was a thing much in bfa either

[hushed bluff]

Early bfa you could rot well then it changed

[clear pulsar]

Nah

[tardy hare]

idk last time feral was rot was a couple of seasons in legion

[clear pulsar]

I mean you 'could' but the bite trait was too good

[tardy hare]

but in WoD feral was pretty big bite boy aswell

[clear pulsar]

It's been all bite since end of legion

[open verge]

wasnt it cata where bleeds were pumpin?

[tardy hare]

idk i played shaman then

[clear pulsar]

Damn machtig rly a furry

Plays dog class and cat class

[tiny oar]

[hushed bluff]

Bite trait was fun.. it refreshed rip at 1 cp bite. This resulted in a rot playstyle.

[tiny oar]

🦝

[hushed bluff]

Yes the bites hurt too

[tulip falcon]

Bring back ravage 🙄

[hushed bluff]

Big bites

[tardy hare]

this shaman

gonna hunt u

[clear pulsar]

With furry mog too

[tardy hare]

it refreshed rip at 1 cp bite. This resulted in a rot playstyle.

no?

it resulted in more bite playstyle

[clear pulsar]

Also it was sabertooth that refreshed rip at 1 cp

Not the trait

[hushed bluff]

What you mean. The bleeds did hella damage

[sand spade]

Feral seems strong ATM, good damage and pretty Tanky?

[hushed bluff]

Especially if they were buffed bleeds

[clear pulsar]

I think tanky is a stretch but yeah feral's good

[tulip falcon]

Yeah defo not tanky

I can't tell what's good at the moment because PvP overall is a shitfest

[open verge]

if it ends up that you will be able to survive in skin

then its fine

but youre getting melted through si and skin

[tulip falcon]

I'll still die to an mm hunter in 2 globals through wall 😆

[clear pulsar]

Facts

[tardy hare]

its fine

mm will get nerfed

haha

right

haha

[open verge]

everyone has their hopes up for nerfs, but I dont expect much

[tulip falcon]

it's not just even mm though

there's so much broken shit rn

[open verge]

theyll at least get a week in s1

[tardy hare]

just gonna meld mm

gg

[tulip falcon]

I've died to sub rogues in half a cheap

[clear pulsar]

Everything's broken

[tulip falcon]

yep

[hushed bluff]

Will they focus on the mythic race tuning or PvP tuning?

[clear pulsar]

No tuning

[hushed bluff]

Lol

[tulip falcon]

I mean the season is going live like this that's obvious at this point

It's like prepatch on crack

[hushed bluff]

Maybe they hit us Tuesday

[fleet pulsar]

they will

[tardy hare]

cant wait to abuse the shit out of stuff

[sand spade]

Ele Shaman has some crazy burst

[tardy hare]

the shit outta people

[hushed bluff]

Can’t wait to make my symmetry LEGO lol

[sand spade]

Any interupt/CC > Convoke

[clear pulsar]

Can't wait to reroll necrolord and rot people with circle + li

[tulip falcon]

Have had so much RNG with convoke

like

[tulip falcon]

Sometimes I've killed 2 people with it and sometimes it does nothing

[tardy hare]

y'all nuts say that now

but i can get it off in bgs