We smashed noodle tho
#pvp
clear pulsar
smoky violet
@clear pulsar Oh, and since you're brazilian, this means you should get the hidden meaning behind my user name, besides the tauren feral reference 
clear pulsar
Do you rememer noodle?
I should have known
FAK
Reporting ur character for name
@tardy hare was noodle ever in worldofpvp?
I think he was, but maybe you don't know all the memes about him
smoky violet
Multilanguage puns are immune to reporting 
clear pulsar
Playing with literal rank 1s and failing to make glad as a dk in season 2 with full crucible gear
Boosted by 3k players
Still fails
tardy hare
who's noodle
tiny oar
Sounds pretty sad
clear pulsar
Maybe he was never in worldofpvp
I thought he was tho
Longnoodle or something like that
tiny oar
Didnt start pvping until s2 but from the sound of how every1 talks about it my fucking dog could've gotten glad in s1
tardy hare
clear pulsar
Tfw I quit wow in november
After I rerolled feral and they literally nerfed it 7 different ways 2 weeks later
No more wow for me
clear pulsar
Dude
THe amount of kicks I missed last night
So fucking pathetic
Felt like absolute dogshit
Should have won every game
tiny oar
get gud TM
clear pulsar
tardy hare
dude thats me
i miss every kcik playign DH
but i just fucking pump
big
other players do low damage
but i do BGI
BIG
clear pulsar
No u dont
tardy hare
I do tho
clear pulsar
I've seen ur damage meters
U only complain other players have corrupt
And u do small pp
tardy hare
I'm the one who procs GW
no
that was me
before i played the game
nnow i play the game
now i have more gush
and more versa
than everyone
2 gear sets ready to pump
easy clap
enemies fear me
tiny oar
tiny oar
a true classic
west laurel
A true risotto pvper
small storm
yolo 2s with a rogue to pray for 2 wins for 2.1k box lmao
aaand that was a quick 2 losses
tiny oar
lol yikes
tranquil silo
Its so fun to farm for months to start playing the game
tiny oar
@clear pulsar BIS LOOT 
tiny oar
🔫
tiny oar
feelsbadman
clear pulsar
Bros what do you think
tardy hare
money
small storm
i think so
on ur proc its what like another 20k damage
vs an extra MI gives you some mastery at a weird time
IJ will always be used, MI wont always be used efficiently
clear pulsar
That's what I'm thinking too
Sometimes you go so long without walling
And if you wall for damage you get punished
Thanks brothers
small storm
it makes for a great counter
bc when u survive a wall worthy attack, you can apply good pressure quick
hardy gate
So I've been out the loop for a week, how much has gear changed now? Are we still all in on vers for resto?
viral granite
anyone got an iron jaw/SI weak aura for pvp
fading dawn
wise valley
He meant new to feral
harsh jasper
Question.
I got two 475 pieces that are versa mastery, that replace my two 470 pieces that were crit versa....
I lost 2% base versa, but I gained 11% mastery......
Seems like a good swap?
rigid linden
scuse me fuji
wth happened
was looking at the ladder
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE FUJI EGO
@stray sigil
tiny oar
stray sigil
ya
we r having
trouble getting on same page
unfort for me i have low xp
they dont rly like when i try to say some things we could do better
lul
rigid linden
playing with a new 3rd
Not trying new stuff
Mfw that's how ppl get hardstuck
Formrage been there
stray sigil
ya he just rqs if i point anything out
stray sigil
ya but doesnt apply so much to us i think
like we dont play like we used to when we were at 2800
hes tryna put me in awkward spot and make me like bean 2.0
vast vapor
is every feral just breath major now instead of bote
manic arrow
Guys, I'm playing MLD as rdrood at 1700 and I'm struggling playing against other caster cleaves, cuz I'm getting oom faster than pala/mw. Is it normal or I'm doing something wrong?
I also can't survive 2 melee pressure, using trinket, vortex, charge, then hotting myself and going bear with barkskin, but they kill me anyway in a few seconds. Is it also normal for nowadays meta?
I'm 472, 10% vers
clear pulsar
Feral was never rly blood major mainly
Blood is like a fun hail mary
But last season everyone played crucible major instead anyway
manic arrow
@vestal citrus Thanks, dude
What's better for rdrood, item with both useful stats (let's say vers/mastery) 465 ilvl or 475 with just one useful stat and garbage another (crit)?
wise valley
Dude my fuckin co gm is 2800 on fmp ?? Dafuq
tardy hare
EPIC
lone sail
@manic arrow super item dependent. usually i would say take 100/100 of both good stats. but if your staking versa with versa amps i would take the 180versa/20shit stat because its more beneficial to your corruptions
manic arrow
@lone sail Thanks, here are my cases
Switching 465 haste/mastery/leech staff for crit/vers 475 off-hand and 465 mastery/vers main; looks worth it
Not sure about leggings, haste/mastery are both good, but no vers
I wanna stack mastery/vers to make huge heals and keep pressure better, so haste/crit seem to be less viable for that
stray quail
Is it bad that have 16% haste as feral ? because all big versa items i have got haste instead of mastery. Mastery is 43% atm
lone sail
@manic arrow without seeing ur mainhand to go with that offhand i would just go with the staff, especially because of the corruption on it.
the legs are rough, but depending on ur current stat weights i would go with the versa.
@stray quail thats fine. just focus priority on versa and fill the rest with gems and enchants if u need to
manic arrow
Here it is
Corruption doesn't matter since I can put any on anything
And we will get 12% vers back on this Saturday
So I'll grab a lot of them
lone sail
If your stacking the versa corruption then go with that dagger and offhand and the versa legs. Get as much value as you can out of your corruptions. @manic arrow
manic arrow
Okay, is it worth stacking it nowadays?
lone sail
Yes it's still very good with the 33% nerf on the corruptions
manic arrow
Best secondary is mastery or haste is also equal?
fickle junco
if you had 3 before the nerf. it will take 4 to feel un nerfed.
manic arrow
I had 0 lol
lone sail
For druid that's personal preference. Haste will help your clone cast time and dot ticks, while mastery helps your throughput. It's based on your playstyle honestly. Mastery to play it safe tho
fickle junco
then you gain 8% in pvp. all gains
most people choose Verse if they need more survivability.
lone sail
Ya with druid u can technically get away with mast/haste. But u better be good lol. You'll find urself dying alot really quick. Especially when so many people have gush stacked
If you look at thelootdistrict.com and look at the top 10 rdruids on the ladder, all of them are versa stacked. But again, that's 2800+ rating
fickle junco
imo, 30% verse min to stay alive in arena. you can get that with base verse and maybe 1-2 amps rest can go into haste/mast.
well, Dead DPS do no damage~
lone sail
I like that for dru as well. I have 3 versa amps and the rest gushing
ashen smelt
haste/mastery builds for resto in arena are super risky if you're not playing with something like a destro.
you need a dps with substantial peeling ability or just a scary enough threat so you're not the focus
fickle junco
2 Demon hunters. havoc and Vengeance? 
ashen smelt
lol id personally do heavy vers with a second focus on mastery with that.
hardy gate
As a resto coming from mythic to PvP I have very little vers. Is it that important to grind and replace most my gear with vets pieces and corruption?
clear pulsar
You can play without vers, like reading just 3 lines above will tell you
But if you have low vers you should look to play with specs that can peel and/or draw a lot of attention away from you
Like destruction and fire
Caster cleaves in general, ele lock, mage lock
hardy gate
Thanks, and I assume if I did grind vers even though it's likely lower ilvl it will be better?
clear pulsar
It's a weird time to be a resto druid cuz your healing output is very very reliant on mastery
And you need a lot of output to outheal gushing wound meta
But you also need haste and vers
There is no one right answer to your gear
Kinda take it game by game, comp by comp
You need vers to survive if you're playing a comp where you're vulnerable
hardy gate
Thanks again. I'm not playing in a good comp at the moment as just playing with couple friends for fun (sin and havoc). I know we won't get high rating as that comp but as long as we don't get steamrolled
clear pulsar
Well sin and havoc is nice for smashing thru lower brackets
hardy gate
The sin gets focused a lot I find
hardy gate
Yup
ashen smelt
look at it this way
vers is basically the combined design of the old pvp power and resilience
in high damage metas like this one, there are very few times when a healer can avoid using this stat in high amounts
unless you're against something with less sustained pressure
hardy gate
Thanks both. Looks like I will be grinding some new gear then!
ashen smelt
luckily the raid has a few good pieces to get you started
vast vapor
versa mastery pieces?
ashen smelt
versa pieces in general for leather, but yeah
xanesh main hand and ilgy belt are both decent to start with, plus shadhar ring and hivemind gloves.
most of the azerite is decent.
clear pulsar
Right, that's why it's a weird time to be a resto druid
Cuz other healers dont rely on mastery for output
manic arrow
Whathion leggings also
clear pulsar
The way resto healing is tuned, mastery is a key part of your sheer output on a single target
manic arrow
Easy to kill, vers/mastery
clear pulsar
But it's troublesome because you need some haste to function and you need vers to survive if you're targeted
analog lantern
Hello. Im brand new to resto and read the arena guide. It said stats were Haste=Mastery>vers> crit. Then it recommends Mastery and vers corruptions. DOes that mean we shouldnt be taking haste corruptions even though its just as valuable as mastery?
clear pulsar
That's why people playing resto at high levels rn are only playing mage lock (or chas but he plays straight the best RMD in the game)
ashen smelt
yeah, or in 2s its with a destro or dh
both have significant ability to heal/survive and require less attention from the resto.
analog lantern
Sorry just reading above me and looks like you are talking about a similar topic
With it being so reliant on stacking vers for survive and mastery for healing output, is there a "minimum" haste we should run to our dots dont feel so slow?
clear pulsar
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/kelthuzad/Kubyzy
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/ravencrest/Chas
Lots of the druids I'm seeing have similar amounts of each stat
~1500-1700 of each
Haste mastery and vers
A few have very heavy vers or very heavy mastery
Like dannycarry heals a mage lock team always
So he has like 26% mastery or something very high
tranquil silo
Its very annoying when you like pve & pvp equally. I need 2 different set of corrupted gear... its just too much work.
vast vapor
2 sets too much lul, howabout 3-4 specs 2-3 sets per spec
clear pulsar
For resto anyway
Like you dont need 6 rank 3 versatiles
Feral and boomie pve gear is basically the same these days
tranquil silo
If you are part of a mythic raiding guild this can be easy to achieve but other you rely mostly on your pvp & pve cache to get decent gear
clear pulsar
On my toon, 475 with crit vers is better than a 465 with crit haste for boomie, and 475 crit haste is better than 465 crit mastery for feral, for instance
In sims
tranquil silo
I don't think it would be worth to put had earned corruption to a 465 piece
clear pulsar
Very little of my gear is from raid tho
Like azerite and trinkets, yes
But regular armor slots, mostly weekly boxes and 5 mask each week
Just had to restore a lot of the ones I'd scrapped before they announced a corruption vendor
vast vapor
well yeah with not maxed gear its different
clear pulsar
Nah that's silly
Ofc your gear can always be better optimized
That goes for everything
But if we're being reasonable
No one has a full set of crit haste for boomie and a separate full set of crit mastery for feral and a separate full set of haste mastery for resto and a separate full set of haste vers for guardian
And no one is being hurt by not having those either
tranquil silo
I don't mind being less powerful than someone who spend more time playing but with corruption now being added the gaps between someone with corruption and someone without is just insane
vast vapor
im kinda sad about that still, for pve it matters a lot but for pvp prolly not so much
in pvp you can just outplay but you cant outplay the numbers in pve if you want to log
clear pulsar
Catching up on a new character is definitely way too bad rn
And if you want to get 100th percentile parses on every spec
Then sure
It sucks
tranquil silo
depend of your class... i used to play disc priest and if you really feel when you are undergeared
clear pulsar
I wish they'd just bite the bullet and release the floodgates
Let everyone have corruption at will
vast vapor
yeah
atm I'm more running into the problem of not having the perfect base gear for corruptions tho
pvp grindin has given so much echoes so the cost barely matters but getting right balanced stats on 475s is hard
would prolly be different case if we knew the system is coming, didnt do anything for a few months so lost a lot of potential 475 bases
ashen smelt
i expected that they'd give us a way to extract the corrupted essence from an item, so i kept all my corrupted gear (even blues lol)
the vendor was a surprise.
clear pulsar
@vast vapor opposite for me, I have a lot of crit haste gear 470 from 5 mask and 475 from weekly boxes, but no echoes to put severe on htem
vast vapor
yeah I just got my last base item for pve balance near bis
but missing a lot good versa/mastery pieces for pvp for every spec
tranquil silo
I try to decide whether i want to push pvp or pve...
what would be the worst, versa in m+ and raid or haste in arena and rbg?
vast vapor
its unlucky for versa to not be viable in pve for druids except guardian
surreal heron
tranquil silo
I hate this patch so much
vast vapor
I tried versa boomy and god that felt bad to play
tranquil silo
I miss titanforging 🙂
vast vapor
I miss reforging
clear pulsar
I think resto stats in pve are all super close in general
So I wouldn't worry too much about that
If you have to make a choice
Ask people in #resto tho
tranquil silo
50 plus haste seem to be so much fun
clear pulsar
Haha
@vast vapor this is what my boomie pvp set looks like rn, coincidentally lot of the same pieces as my resto set
I dont even know why I have a booomie pvp set tho Im rly rly bad at it
I think it's cuz my friends keep memeing me into playing frozen chicken
bold dirge
any tips against healer monk + ret pally duo? Playing as feral atm but input from druids in general would be awesome
vast vapor
watched tony play 2s with kasu today, god I wish I was able to play feral already, always loved doubledps 2s
pretty sick theyre 2,6k
tiny oar
🙂
vast vapor
yeah root feels stupid nowadays being feral
imagine just powershifting em
gonna need to buy like 5x versa3s, a few severe3, and like 8-9 mastery3 for the memes
also find bases for the mastery ones
tranquil silo
sound like you have a illimited amount of echoes to spend!
unlimited*
give me some
vast vapor
yeah unfortunately not really the case yet, missing the currency for those masterys
aaaaaand really the struggliest thing is to get sockets to all pieces of gear, really wish them didnt exist
clear pulsar
My priorities go like
Thinking about the places I need the most help
I don't need help to do keys cuz I already have enough gear for the shit I do
So I put sockets and prioritize corruption for pvp
vast vapor
yeah I've been thinking about doing that too but still feels a bit sad to not have maxed pve gear when its so close
or atleast kinda maxed
ashen smelt
Until you face destro ofc
nothing feels good into that matchup.
vast vapor
but its still gonna take 4 sockets which could be 300 versa in pvp
and I really need all the help in pvp to achieve something
fickle junco
||so, apparently someone tried to gank a Guardian Druid AFK at the flight path and got 1 shot by Twilight Devastation. instant karma.||
keen phoenix
So help me out fellas: wanna branch out from my feral, and learn a new class in preparation for SL: was thinking Ret or rogue (sub maybe, not sure). Thoughts?
lime light
assa the best melee in the game, since 8.0
tiny oar
^
tiny oar
O I'm on mobile so maybe my shits just fucked
tiny oar
O ya it's good now
But yea play what u love @keen phoenix
N u can have a filthy fotm alt on the side
lime light
iam tryin arms
warrior is like 2-3 days old, but there is one issue
i wonder if u can find it 
vast vapor
that trinket is prolly giga
tiny oar
Is it the plunderdunks flask of garbo-ness 
tiny oar
Nbd just play conflict major LOL
lime light
now the worst thing when u gearing alt
to buy essence that cost 2.5k or buy your bis corruption
cuz its in the vendor this week
tiny oar
Is leveling cloak up to current main levels **
fickle junco
going for 300% mastery?
vast vapor
yeah he is definetely talking about getting honed mind
lime light
220% mastery as arms is rly low
keen phoenix
Ty guys. In case anyone here plays rogue: is the need racial really such a big deal for arena? Compared to human
Nelf racial, damn autocorrect
heady vessel
restealth is big though
clear pulsar
It's just different tools
Being able to play relentless vs other rogues is huge tho
heady vessel
true
lament niche
Anyone have an opinion on corruptions for Feral? I'm looking to run An'Zig with all Verse %
vast vapor
thats scam
kindred sedge
for ferals, impassive visage or ursocs endurance?
kindred sedge
k
vast vapor
how does avoidance work in pvp
Ive had cases of deaths to 3 immortals just burning me to death
smoky violet
Uh
Oh, lock infernals?
AFAIK your gear tertiary stats (leech avoidance etc) is disabled in arenas, but other than that, should work normally in pvp i think
Like if you get them from traits or whatever
I don't think there's much of a point in trying to get avoidance to mitigate the immolation aura damage from infernals
pallid coral
pallid coral
@vestal citrus huntayy posted it in focussed will
wise valley
Lmfao that nickname
pallid coral
Someone on Facebook said I was very mediocre at feral
weak moon
Noobie question here. Trying to make the push to 1900 this weekend. Eventually want to push to 2100 for the season. I play rdruid/dh/ww. Any general tips for the push?
Trying to keep a pma and learn from each match.
tiny oar
Pog good name
tiny oar
Ran into flummys pally the other day flummiesto lol
stray sigil
hpal looks like a lot of fun
too bad alting in bfa
vanguards playing ineff ret
200 iq or what
sharp falcon
is three iron jaws still the go to for feral in arenas?
tiny oar
Yea trying to play 3 chars rn its rough
sharp falcon
having a hard time getting that combo, eould two ij still work or would i be better off running other traits at that point
stray sigil
the "hardest" part is getting the ij jf chest cuz u gotta gamble residuum
pvp shoulders and helm give u ij mi
if u have access to like 3 mi right now
prob better off doing that over 2 ij
but if its random traits just go 2 ij
tiny oar
Are the pins for feral still good? I wanna try n jungle with the homies
rigid linden
Uhhhhhh
I think they're still relevant for the most part
I guess just corrupt is gushing or versatiles now
small storm
im rockin cephalohide chest with IJ/GL and its decent
shadow horizon
If you heal a mix of caster and melee cleaves and a lot of 2’s mixed as well. Any recommendations on choice of balancing secondary stats with corruption? I’ve been conflicted on how I feel with hast/vers, vers/Mastery and unsure if I’d want to go hard haste mastery while healing mixed comps and end up the swap target.
weak moon
unfortunately you'll need multiple gear sets / corruption sets if you want to min/max.
depending on comps
vocal whale
hey guys, casual 1.8k-2k pvper here gearing my feral for pvp now that I don't need more pve stuff, conflicted on what corruptions I should aim for at this level
should I stack vers%?
lime light
Its bad
tropic schooner
looks decent for burst setups
void dome
Any tips on playing against ele/mw as lock/Druid in 2’s?
small storm
i mean its free damage that u press 1 button for
you're just shifting your actual toolkit damage a bit lower and adding this, no clue what the net result is but if you are losing the damage in a couple second window from maim/ff/bite and giving it to that nature damage over 8 seconds... little riskier
lime light
it cant crit, it insta breaks when u are too far, it scales with versa, and u lose around 200 stats
obsidian oracle
Im really struggling in 2s as feral. I have pretty good gear, maut wep, bike 3xMI adn 2x IJ. I just cant seem to not get rekt by almost everything, im the main target no matter what. playing with a ret atm and its rough. Should it be viable or am i just shit at the game? 1750 SR ish
clear pulsar
Not great
But playable
Will be decidedly harder
Than playing with a half competent healer
In general if you aren't comfortable/good with the fundamentals and execution of cross CC and avoiding damage for a double dps comp, don't even try it
Especially since they nerfed the offhealing of hybrids by a good 30-50% across the board
You'll have a hard time
If it's your buddy and you guys gotta play it, by all means
I'd recommend recording some games
And showing people for feedback
We do have a ret feral wizard in this server
That you could pester for help
tiny oar
Ye ur ret as hpal would b a lot smoother with minimal effort
turbid solar
hey guys, im 471 resto with %22 haste, %13 mastery and %21 versa, trying to learn arenas, mostly playing 2s, what corruption would be beneficial for all brackets? should i buy versa or mastery amps? procs etc
ashen smelt
you'll be waiting like three weeks for mastery
a lot of it is playstyle and who you're queueing with
but vers is a reliable choice.
kindred sedge
is it normal as disc feral vs ret hpal that you do 1mill thorns dmg and still get destoryed and ret does 1mill more dmg than u
he just hit me the entire game without fail
100% uptime on thorns
turbid solar
im playing with an arms warrior, feels like my mastery is too low, should i buy some rank 2 mastery pieces, or buy rank 3 versa with all my echoes?
ashen smelt
imo mastery 2 is kind of a waste of echoes unless you're rounding out your corruption resist
clear pulsar
You shouldn't trade sustained hits with a ret paladin
You'll never outdamage a ret paladin
By just sitting there and trading blows
ashen smelt
isn't the key to fighting ret as feral to just cyclone the shit out of him and be a general nuisance?
kindred sedge
i cloned him like hell but roots do nothing vs double freedoms tho
clear pulsar
Keep bleeds up, throw in damage when you have cc
ashen smelt
lol its probably actually triple freedom
kindred sedge
well yeah exactly
ashen smelt
the holy paladin was likely running blessed hands
ashen smelt
your cc + the priest's should be enough to keep him locked out during wings
his damage outside of that window is pretty low.
shining force is a great tool for dealing with a ret
clear pulsar
You still have
Passive 40% higher movement speed
Fear/cyclone + stuns + knockback from priest possibly
ashen smelt
mind control too
kindred sedge
and go on the hpal?
clear pulsar
Most important
Identify if their wings is regular or crusade
If it's crusade, you don't have to peel right away
Cuz it starts off weak
And ramps up big time
clear pulsar
Also all your cds are raw damage reduction
Surv instincts, pain sup, barrier
So you have to actually reduce a big burst of damage
Use it at proper times
ashen smelt
generally you're probably also better off on the holy paladin, simply because rets usually run full vers.
holy paladin is a mix of ineffables and vers
kindred sedge
whats the move vs hpal warlocks
seems they cycle through enough bops and bubbles and sacs until eventually you get oneshot
ashen smelt
did you tank bolts during the infernal
undone nexus
For feral in the current state of season would purchasing more gushing wound corruptions be best or stacking vers amp still? Generally running feral/mage/heals as my main comp
ashen smelt
because that sounds like grimore of supremacy problems lol
clear pulsar
I recommend one of those ^
ashen smelt
are you finding your mana draining too quickly?
clear pulsar
ashen smelt
if so, use vitality
kindred sedge
yeah i generally stay in 100% of time besides during dark soul
because it feels like if i run away they just get drs back up on coil and stun and fear and im just eating dmg
ashen smelt
you need to line of sight the infernals too.
kindred sedge
when ive tried lining everything i feel like ive got literally no pressure out ever
ashen smelt
welcome to warlock 
kindred sedge
alright ill go back to doing that if thats the move i suppose
the only comp i dont struggle with is dk comps as feral disc.... everything else feels hard
ashen smelt
thats typically why its considered anti-fun tbh
but its up to you if you want to push in, just be aware that every bolt they get off during infernal increases the damage of the following bolt
kindred sedge
yeah ill try pulling off again instead
i wish there was a match up guide on youtube or skillcapped or something
i bought skillcapped but its so dead for any content at all
just hard stuck at 2.1 😦
ashen smelt
i find that its better to just watch elite streamers this season to get a feel for how to handle matchups
since the meta is changing so strangely with the vendor
clear pulsar
Tfw hard stuck at 2.2 
@lime light is the 2v2 god
I think he beats all the destro locks
lime light
first of all
ashen smelt
meta is stale
lime light
u win vs destro
by making him mad
and by not playing the game
and when he tilts, u kill him or his healer thats not a hpal
easy as that
if they are tilti proof
u just q next
kindred sedge
conflict and strife vs destro or not?
lime light
no
clear pulsar
CnS is kinda worthless these days
Maybe vs rogue mage
But breath is too good for everything else
split wraith
as feral I'm running 2x Masterful Instincts and 1xJungle Fury, does that feel like a good balance to others? Also, other than obvious vers, should I be trying to stack a certain stat?
kindred sedge
what people stack mastery over versa?
lime light
2nd
kindred sedge
oh yeah misread
how imporant is maut wep for 2.4 2's
has anyone here achived 2.4 without maut wep?
lime light
getting maut weapon istoo easy
kindred sedge
well thats not true 🙂 ive rolled on that boss legit 25 times
lime light
u did it 7 times
kindred sedge
cuz im desperate
lime light
u know u can
do heroic
5 timers
in one week
and roll every time
u do it
also u can trade maut for 2x gush, obv maut is better if u have full uptime on target
but 2x gush should do fine
compared to maut
kindred sedge
you think i should stack up some more haste instead? to what %?
topaz python
I'm struggling when to go feral affinity as resto, should I just run feral affinity always?
lime light
@clear pulsar should i change a race
lime light
no...
clear pulsar
You arent zanda?
lime light
aint playing alliance
stray sigil
y not
undone nexus
Is feral / UH dk / rsham viable comp still?
forest kite
debating on guardian or feral for arena (guardian with TD rank 3 or feral with 5 gushing wounds), anyone have a suggestion?
peak marlin
guardian is like the most boring spec in the game. Only really fun in bg setting imo
x3 jungle/x2 heart of dark or x2 masterful/randoms and 18k more hp. Only have 1 iron jaws piece atm
shadow geyser
ALRIGHT, well then have you comparing to vers/mastery
or are you doing gushing...
and if its gushing is it haste vers gushing or mastery vers gushing
shadow geyser
can i have your armory link?
vital shoal
rigid linden
the man fuji
is nelf again
😮
yeah get fucked willy and smight
dogshit
i hate two people being bum buddies and blaming the 3rd
and always getting new 3rds
theyre the actual problem with their shitty mindset
rats
REEEEEEEEEEEEE
stray sigil
they are nice guys
but just not when we q
now i have to deal with every idiot who says i got self played cuz i faction changed
gr8
tiny oar
Kill em fuji
stray sigil
depressing
obtuse sleet
should i run gushing and twisted if imm trying to play aggro in 2s as a resto? i have lotta echoes for vers just wondering if other corruptions besides stacking vers is worth it
harsh jasper
I guess i missed the gushing bus
got 20k echoes but I didnt buy any cause I was going versa
!!!
Im using 1 12% and 2 860 procs. WIth a mostly vera mastery set. Seems to be doing fine
I guess ill get gushing next time around
lusty totem
What corruption should i buy for boomy v2 with a dps ? hast%/vers% ? or wait for gw
manic arrow
Guys, could you recommend me some rdrood active streamers?
rustic heron
Yo guys how do you play mage/war/resto vs double caster teams? Mainly lock/mage seems like it's unbeatable
bright stump
Kick the warrior and bring a lock:)
rustic heron
I know man heh just trying to help some friends but it seems like a lost cause even tho the war is really good
short fjord
are there any updates feral guides out? Everything I’ve looked at seems wrong or outdated.
south nacelle
@stray sigil how hard does youre maim hit in pvp?
stray sigil
depends on what class but like
60k non crit is pretty average/common
vs leather and cloth can be pretty big
weak moon
Anybody know the verse rating to percent conversion?
left depot
sharp falcon
is verse still the corruption to stack for feral, or do i want some mix of gushing wounds in there too?
rigid linden
ez
stray sigil
sinister does what he pleases
are they winning games @clear pulsar
arcane feral disc sound quite meme
kinda cool to see axtin getting it in with big boys
clear pulsar
Idk I'm not watching much
fading goblet
lf jungles alliance NA im sick and tired of playing 2s 😦 chill disc priest ❤️
clear pulsar
Raz streaming some assa boomie hpal
potent apex
Does gladius tell you if the other team has an interrupt available? Gonna install it to help with my rating.
what are really good arena addons then?
I really need something to help with my rating as there are points i need to work on
cd tracking etc
cc tracking
potent apex
thank you! 🙂
potent apex
lmao
thank you tho! ill try out both i think
is diminish the DR tracker one on twitch?
lime light
ye, but i use it to track DR on myself
or my teammates
the DR tracker from sarena/gladius is good enoug
enough
lime light
gladius/sarena yes
rest not rly
but better get it
but ye, gladius omnicd big debuffs helps a lot
potent apex
Yeah, its really frustrating not being able to track the enemy cds and interrupts, as i play with arms, havoc as a resto
so everyone ALWAYS uses interrupts on me
whats the difference between gladius and gladiusex?
clear pulsar
Yeah all you need is a dr tracker and a cd tracker
Gladiusex is both in one, in that sense
Bigdebuffs is ultra nice too ofc
Bust most important
You need ur interface to look hella sick
Cuz UI is like mog
Ykno?
lime light
prolly worst patch in wow history, to track enemy / ally cds
potent apex
yeah corruption and shit
lime light
since essences like vison, traits
clear pulsar
How can you be expected to perform with ugly ass action bars or frames
lime light
corruption
potent apex
i mean i already use elvui so my UI looks sexy
potent apex
potent apex
I am resto 
clear pulsar
Acceptable
@vestal citrus how come the guardian ratfuck in ur guild is still higher rating than you
balmy dove
What corruptions should I go for as balance? I'm guessing vers but just wanted to check here first.
inner smelt
what stats do you wanna go as feral btw?
stray sigil
vers > mas
inner smelt
ironjaw traits?
inner smelt
corruptions?
stray sigil
thats up to u rly
inner smelt
alright good, then ill go feral frenzy i prefer that
What azerites is best? all pvp?
sick fiber
stray sigil
@inner smelt pve chewst pvp shoulders and helm
lime light
technically thrash is higher dmg, cuz its a bleed compared to shred
but every good hunter will tell u to not thrash
since it insta breaks root
and other shit
but iam doing it often too, cuz when i have a clarity proc
kinda stronger then me
to not press free thrash
but its almost useless
dont do it
inner smelt
do you use survival instict offensively if you use 2x of that trait?
also do you instant biite after feral frenzy? I mean if you get the 5x combo points instant
slate nimbus
u do get 5 cp 1 global after ff use, so u can bite instantly, but enemies can break melee range during that global and fuck u up
fading goblet
U guys still always use Maut weapon? Only have it heroic and cloak is a bit behind, so if I use my 465 blightreaper with gushing wounds, I could use an extra GW or 12% vers
inner smelt
How would a opener look like? right now i rip rake feral frenzy tigers fury bite
then i pop berserk and just 5 cp bite spam / maim if needed
is it worth to use rip or rake on off targets aswell?
is bite less or more damage than maim? with jaws
stray sigil
multi bleed is an option
u kinda save ur ij proc maim for ur gos
like bash healer maim dps ie in 2s
inner smelt
alright
is it worth to put vers% on vers/haste 470+socket gloves? still newly dinged, dinged 3 days ago
or should i just try to get full vers/mast gear?
stray sigil
id try to get mostly vers mas gear
solemn timber
As resto pvp, i should go full versa?
fickle junco
just make sure there is verse on the gear you use verse% on.
stray sigil
ill heal u brother
clear pulsar
Yuuuuge
stray sigil
HUGE rejuvs
clear pulsar
Triple thorns
stray sigil
what could go wrong
tardy hare
No glyph will get me a new car first
tiny oar
Get it f2f
rigid linden
Gl king
clear pulsar
surreal heron
huh
surreal heron
why not both 😔
clear pulsar
I played some rogue yesterday
I'm about to become the next reckful
Twitch sensation
First player to 4k
coral smelt
if im doing arenas as guardian are there any classes i should be trying to pair with
reef bloom
should i prioritize vers and haste or vers and mastery as a resto druid
gusty cape
guys, blood mist over heart of darkness?
peak marlin
no, heart of dark is one of the best traits you can get. blood mist will fuck you at times in pvp and literally pull you out of bear when it procs.
warm violet
rigid linden
for the time being i think mix up is good
but focus on getting a set with like
4-5 gush and 1-2 vers amps
and a full vers set
cobalt narwhal
for feral pvp - sabertooth, incarnation,brutal slash and feral frenzy ? or what is the most common combination
peak marlin
soul in most matchups. double dps you can rock incarn if you want.
peak marlin
never balance lol. except maybe against monks sometimes. guardian almost all the time
cobalt narwhal
many thanks hurst
inner smelt
checked a few 2s at lootdistrict, a lot of people is only using 1 ironjaw and 3x JF
whats the reason behind that?
mostly i checked tonycatmeow
clear pulsar
Well he streams
U can check him out on twitch and ask
I wouldnt draw too many conclusions from the gear people log off in
Lootdistrict is hardly a guide on what to choose and play
vast vapor
he plays 2s with hunter so it kinda makes sense
willow granite
Is it worth to play psyche shredder as offensive resto or pointless? I got claw and dragonscale atm
clear pulsar
Yeah for double dps 2s, iron jaws is just not consistent enough
Since games are quick there are very few chances
To get a proc
tropic schooner
willow granite
hmm what about this? I just got it xD
clear pulsar
My answer had nothing to do with your question btw
Maledict is fine
But claw + dragonscale is a good combo
And if they're heroic ilvl at least
willow granite
clear pulsar
The intellect is very nice
willow granite
yep i got heroic
clear pulsar
I'd grab the emblem or safeguard
Emblem is better generally, but safeguard is passive, equip and forget
If you're struggling to stay alive they're good, if not, the trinkets you already have are better
willow granite
those are heroic aswell
oke so ill stay with that what i have, i dont really have problems with not dying xd
uncut compass
How often should I be prioritizing bleeding both targets in 2s with a hpal? Always or is it situational?
tight kernel
How often should I be prioritizing bleeding both targets in 2s with a hpal? Always or is it situational?
@uncut compass Always. With double dps, that's a great way to cleave - and against healers, that's a great way to pressure them, then swap.
uncut compass
Ok. For some reason I thought I needed to be cc’ing a bunch between goes and trying to get restealths. Now I realize that is probably only when playing double dps.
Thanks @tight kernel
heady osprey
Is there a way to get into the PVP arena if you did not get ported?
clear pulsar
If you didnt get ported then you accepted the match late
Or game bugged
No, no way to get in after the fact
heady osprey
Oof...
fickle junco
make sure you are not in a "vehicle" when you accept a match.
fleet star
bleak phoenix
Guys , sry to bother you , i have a question related to Conflict and Strife. Im currently at rank 2 , last week finally reached 1616 , was a pain in the ass since im not a big pvper :v capped once , handed in a quest , and capped again mid week , but i kept on the quest , i didn't handed it in untill this wednesday AFTER the reset. But now my question is , will i receive the full rewards for the 1616 or nope? :v im afraid to que again in 2s with randoms
the loot box in the rated tab says i'll receive a 445 item ç_ç
glossy tide
i think your weekly highest should still read as 1616 friend, the 445 item should be an "Example Item"
are you hovering on the chest or on your honor bar?
bleak phoenix
the chest
bleak phoenix
weekly stats are all at 0
clear pulsar
Did you cap conquest by doing
Random bgs or call to arms quests and assaults?
You need a win in the bracket you have rating on
To get the item reward based on that rating
There is no odd situation
If you want the item based on being 1600, you need a weekly win at 1600
bleak phoenix
this applies to the token for conflict and strife too? or just the item in the chest?
cuz idc about a 460 , but i do care about the tokens for Conflict , need the last 5 for rank 3 :v
but ye basically i capped 2 times in a week with arenas
clear pulsar
I can't say I've ever tested that
Cuz well, people who are active in #pvp likely will be doing pvp so it's hard to know if not doing pvp will give you a reward
I've heard it both ways
That you get the tokens without winning a match if you just sit on the rating
And that you need to win a match
smoky violet
I've heard only the first, that if you get to that rating and never play again you'll still get the same amount of tokens, but i never tried it
bleak phoenix
found a kind gentleman that helped me out getting a win in 2s xD guess this will remain a mistery for now
clear pulsar
Yeah see, no one is willing to risk it haha
bleak phoenix
but just few mins ago a guildie told me that i have to get a win in my bracket to receive a the full benefits
thanks for your time and help 😄
heady osprey
How do i get the Trophys?
arctic cove
Curious, do people go much different in build/corruption build in battlegrounds v arena? I can see gushing wounds still being extremely strong but versatility seems less important when being a focus target is way more unlikely
tropic schooner
@bleak phoenix you do not need to win a game for CnS
capping is sufficient
for the item you need to win tho
fickle junco
i have read some reddit posts that you do not need to do a rated game each week. just have the rating over the reward. you do however NEED to cap you conquest reward, as the item comes from the weekly chest.
fickle junco
now im reading mixed results from the reddit posts. some saying they got it for season best and other saying they had to get a win in the week to get credit.
rigid linden
This ^
tropic schooner
@fickle junco for the item you need to win a game in that bracket
for cns tokens you dont
unless that changed in the last few weeks which I doubt
pallid coral
@bleak phoenix @clear pulsar song need the weekly win for the CNS tokens
@deft bane tested
vast vapor
wonder how much viability of feral suffers in 2s if you dont play IJ and MI
covert moth
quick question, how do you play feral in jungle? i just get trained and feel like i have to sit in bear the whole time
obtuse ice
obtuse ice
Mad cuz bad fuji
smoky violet
How bad is going full pve crit setup as feral in arenas?
Trying to figure out if I buy a versa set or a crit set first for my kitty
solemn timber
Hello guys, if i "cap" 1500 on 2vs2 i get better item at chest?
And it matter if i get 1500 but i end at 1400?