but after a lot of fighting about it
#pvp
late wraith
because they'd all leave the add when it had 1 health but still had a shield so i'm just there with it
and no one is running an arrow through it
stray sigil
peaceful individual
late wraith
cause they're on the next guy
late wraith
and i'm like hey. run an arrow through this
stray sigil
dmg to do
tiny oar
peaceful individual
just like me
late wraith
i never tilt
stray sigil
u lidle pig
velvet quest
looks like u owe me 2 rounds of mechanics cause i did orbs and u didnt this fight
tiny oar
u havent been a peaceful individual one second of ur life
im more zen than u buddy
late wraith
looks like u owe me 2 rounds of mechanics cause i did orbs and u didnt this figh...
oh my god the receipts
tiny oar
ironic given ur a monk
late wraith
fuck
fuji man you can't be doing this to yourself
you need to stop trying it with him he will get the logs out
vocal pollen
fuji pls dont do this...
late wraith
that's not
stray sigil
means this pig doing his dmg wrong
late wraith
oh worm
vocal pollen
stray sigil
might be helpful for ur rotation
velvet quest
fuji pressed tiger palm one time at 4:40 into the fight u can kinda see it if u zoom in
vocal pollen
lmfao
late wraith
wait tiger palm is a real button
velvet quest
i got a new trinket it changes my rotation and i havent looked at it yet. its called guidon something does anyone know if its good
late wraith
what's the thing i keep saying
vocal pollen
GUIDON OF GUIDING LIGHT
velvet quest
u say tiger palm but u mean tigers lust beavs
stray sigil
answer me u oug
late wraith
i thought i just made up tiger palm
velvet quest
im a pig not an oug so i wont be answering u until ur nice about it
vocal pollen
yes
velvet quest
its ok he wouldnt know the name of them cause he doesnt target them
vocal pollen
the orbs that u should prio piggy
velvet quest
give him a break guys
vocal pollen
and u dont target them
vocal pollen
because they need to die??
late wraith
we do actually kill them too fast
vocal pollen
"other people will do it" mindset is no bueno in raiding
late wraith
and i got confused about the dot so i called it out wrong loool
stray sigil
if u think about it
late wraith
first i got mad at them for killing too soon
then i MADE them kill it too soon
best raid lead not even a question
vocal pollen
vocal pollen
im ngl if my raid lead told me to like jump off on a boss
I'd do it
and then ask why
velvet quest
also when u look at the log fuji was ahead of me with 2 seconds left in the fight. lil gup just doesnt know how to hold onto a lead
vocal pollen
stray sigil
sometimes i take my habds off keyboard
when boss about to die
its real
cast fof
jesus takes the wheel
tiny oar
sometimes i take my habds off keyboard
not locked in
random patrol
@tiny oar yw
tiny oar
<@237412116024393728> yw
dude dont set the tree on fire they been through enough
stray sigil
random patrol
got to force them to help the belves somehow
vocal pollen
my guild makes fun of me because whenever a boss is about to die for the first time
my first reaction is to take a big sigh of relief
and be like thank fuck thats over
random patrol
Idk why the elves dont ask the other horde races or at least the forsaken
but sure
stray sigil
ur such s little piggy phased
stray sigil
late wraith
lil pfp
stray sigil
man its so easy
stray sigil
im 270 but im no pig
velvet quest
wait fuji did u forget to combat pot the entire raid
late wraith
i'm 269 ||nice||
stray sigil
otherwise it gives mastery
late wraith
when you said you were waiting on combat pot
stray sigil
i need haste
late wraith
after a full wipe
stray sigil
if i press reck pot
late wraith
because those reset
stray sigil
before puzzle ox
i get hadte
so i pre pot
and press puzzlerboz
and i never get a 2nd pit
pot
velvet quest
oh ur recklessness pot
stray sigil
im a leader
stray sigil
i lead the parses
vocal pollen
nope
stray sigil
and the dmg charts
vocal pollen
u know what I did when we were doing memory game on luura
velvet quest
if u 2nd pot at 5:00 ud win
vocal pollen
I waited for someon to call it and then I moved into my spot
velvet quest
thoughts?
vocal pollen
liek the kitten I am
velvet quest
ur sounding like vantus. his "bnet friends" loaned him some cr
stray sigil
wtf do u even p’ay dimb pig
velvet quest
me and beavs loaned some opponents some cr today, we're calling it an investment
stray sigil
man rdru pvp ur gonna die in 1s
velvet quest
its real, i run towards rdruid he bears and runs away terrified. baited. we go him a few seconds later he dies through trinket
ww has to peel for rdruid with insane cc
stray sigil
i have incap for u
velvet quest
disarm, rop, song, port, brawl, tiger palm, etc
stray sigil
vocal pollen
doing real pvp would be kinda fun tbh I've been playing m+ more seriously recently and I am raid main
pvp would be cool
stray sigil
wat u wanna olay 2 or 3s
velvet quest
it wouldnt be real pvp until ur playing awc level thats what all the r1s say
stray sigil
no u tell me u pug
velvet quest
jokes on them we might be queueing for an awc tournament for the toy
vocal pollen
I would only really want to pvp till like low fresh glad I think
cba otherwise
if I go hardcore
like in m+ I just go to title
raid I go kinda further
spare basalt
how long would it take to get to honor level 50 from level 15? i want the artifact feral skin but that sounds like a long grind
vocal pollen
well yeah I wouldnt play any content if I cant get to like a semi high title
same as title in m+
stray sigil
how long would it take to get to honor level 50 from level 15? i want the artifa...
not too bad but not too fast
stray sigil
well yeah I wouldnt play any content if I cant get to like a semi high title
do u even know about focus macros
vocal pollen
yes man
stray sigil
and arena 123
velvet quest
how long would it take to get to honor level 50 from level 15? i want the artifa...
about 35 honor levels so figure out how many honor levels you get in a day and then divide 35 by that number and thats how many days itll take hope that helps
vocal pollen
im not new to the game pig
stray sigil
if u wanna do 3s u gotta ask puzzler and i will q or someone
2s i dont need those piglets
i am 2s king
vocal pollen
king....
velvet quest
many people are calling him king yes its true
vocal pollen
I need to get the rdruid pvp juice from someone, need vods or smth
stray sigil
I need to get the rdruid pvp juice from someone, need vods or smth
@clear pulsar crazy disrespect
anyways
@clear fox
vocal pollen
clear pulsar
Damn
Yeah they dont respect me in any dreamgrove channel anymore
It is what it is
tiny oar
Yeah they dont respect me in any dreamgrove channel anymore
I respect u face2face
big fan
clear pulsar
Ok but you also arent IN DREAMGROVE HALF THE TIME
tiny oar
Ok but you also arent IN DREAMGROVE HALF THE TIME
???/
vocal pollen
I RESPECT YOU
well most of the time
but yes I need the druid JUICE
I must climb
tiny oar
Ok but you also arent IN DREAMGROVE HALF THE TIME
ive been absent like a week total since 2016 man
get ur head right
vocal pollen
I say I must climb but I am probably going to be pulling these 2 march on queldanas bosses for the next 3 months
raid prison perma
clear pulsar
well most of the time
when do you disrespect me?
vocal pollen
I cant really think of a time tbh I just wanted to say most because I dont want to glaze too hard
clear pulsar
It was just a dirty joke :c dont disrespect me
clear pulsar
stray sigil
clear pulsar
Dude what the
The dps colors are flipped, fury aff was enemy team
What the shit lmao
vocal pollen
vibe code
clear pulsar
No this is real damage
The fury is pumping
I won the round ofc
But crazy damage
Some padding on pets but
vocal pollen
viscid remnant
late wraith
I want a tax receipt for the cr I donated today
You all need to tell me to stop next time I say I’m gonna queue after a raid
vocal pollen
what happened....
I feel like im genuinely physically exhausted after raid sometimes with how hard they make these bosses sometimes
late wraith
We just lost a few
I feel good about recognizing it and calling to stop early instead of tilt queuing
We can get it all back just a bad feeling
late wraith
it has been a big learning curve for me to stop tilt queueing let me tell you I will happily lose over 100 cr while raging mad
vocal pollen
yes tbh I used to do that in dota but I just dont really have that solo q grind mental anymore
when I was addicted to dota I legit won or lost 150-200 mmr in one sitting
now I dont think I can play more than 2-3 league games at once
random patrol
I just toss the bird into it's cage and grab the next one in line
rinse and repeat
vocal pollen
what does that mean....
random patrol
my toons are expendable
vocal pollen
oh
late wraith
His boomies lol
vocal pollen
yes that makes sense
I dont think im attached to my character much but I do quite enjoy the achievements and items I have
random patrol
one does bad it get's slapped and grounded for the night
vocal pollen
whenever I clear a raid tier I put the two trinkets I used on the endboss in my bank along with any important items or legendaries
late wraith
That’s cute
vocal pollen
I also have a lot of grey items that people have given me for fun in my vault
late wraith
When I’m done raid I throw my pve gear out that’s a PvP alt now
vocal pollen
my last gf gave me some shitty chain grey item in shadowlands and its still in my vault
random patrol
I collect singled branches of teldrassil
vocal pollen
and also a flower that my tank gave me in tww
dude why are u collecting teldrassil branches....
clear pulsar
my last gf gave me some shitty chain grey item in shadowlands and its still in m...
Do you miss her?
vocal pollen
ok well that is a loaded question that I will not answer at this time
clear pulsar
random patrol
I put them in my guild's bank
vocal pollen
LMAO
random patrol
my guild is like 99 percent nightelves
vocal pollen
I quite value the memories of all the people I've been close with tbh, not to get too sappy
random patrol
and alliance
vocal pollen
but I keep lots of reminders and mementos
random patrol
Im horde and not a night elf and I like fire so I remind them of the tree
vocal pollen
one of my friends that I dont really talk to anymore made a transmog for me ages ago that I still have saved on my character
vocal pollen
Im horde and not a night elf and I like fire so I remind them of the tree
dude....
be nice...
random patrol
nah burn it all
clear pulsar
Im horde and not a night elf and I like fire so I remind them of the tree
I'm horde now too and my mog is very burning tree coded, lemme show you one sec
random patrol
5th war time
vocal pollen
late wraith
One of our healers sends me sand in the mail all the time and I keep it
late wraith
He has sent me so much fuckin sand
vocal pollen
one of my warriors sent me in game mail about some bs as well
clear pulsar
clear pulsar
tysm
vocal pollen
honestly I'm not really a big fan of masks or helmets that cover the face though
random patrol
what the world need is more MALE night elves
vocal pollen
the head piece I use is my favorite probably
random patrol
big old dopy arms
vocal pollen
like a little crescent on the head
clear pulsar
Yeah I like tiaras or just the ninja masks from monk set in WOD
vocal pollen
yes I also have this really cool like fairy headpiece thingy
clear pulsar
But all my other mogs are like that I feel
clear pulsar
The haranir heritage armor has this branch crown halfway to antlers crown from DF
I was using that one on a mog
vocal pollen
I really want to make a haranir but idk what class
I dont want a druid mirror
haranir customisations are incredible
clear pulsar
Maybe shaman
vocal pollen
yeah shaman could be cool
vocal pollen
true...
I still havent levelled my 2nd char either, literally every day I think to myself this is the day I do
clear pulsar
Chiseled
random patrol
@tardy hare proper druid there
clear pulsar
One of those body paint cosplayers that are literally naked but you cant quite tell
vocal pollen
lmfao
late wraith
Ur good at mixing pieces from different seasons and still color matching
clear pulsar
Ty wife
vocal pollen
but I have an awful aesthetic sense
clear pulsar
I hope tian logs in and looks at my mog and says it's a full set
vocal pollen
lmfao
tiny oar
tardy hare
<@140164607175032832> proper druid there
absolutely, i shoot animals
vocal pollen
ep still insists I am bear
clear pulsar
partly because I just dont own that many transmog appearances
Bro you gotta
Surely
Wow is doll dressing game
vocal pollen
yes man I just dont really do transmog much
90% of my transmog are like
someone just does them for me
clear pulsar
And afk while valeera works
tiny oar
Wow is doll dressing game
transmog is bis 
vocal pollen
holy
tardy hare
vocal pollen
I need to do more bountifuls
not even for gear
bountifuls give giga rep
need my rep mounts
clear pulsar
transmog is bis <a:YES:1162976978278809641>
You're literally one of the lightbloom people???
tiny oar
You're literally one of the lightbloom people???
thats the vibe I wanted yea ^_^
vocal pollen
a rutaani race
or w/e those are
the flower people
no more humanoid races
give me the monsters
random patrol
prob another human race next
vocal pollen
yes probably
they are terrified of anything unique
we must have 4 varities of trolls, 3 varities of gnome
clear pulsar
They even fake us out with troll variants
That arent real
Like the jungle troll customization
tiny oar
I want VULPERA DRUID
late wraith
I want VULPERA DRUID
Plz
quick ermine
Is there something going on with the mmr? I was 1989 yesterday and I have probably won 3 games since then. I’m back down to 1600. Seems everyone I’m matched with has no idea what is going on.
I feel like I get people intentionally throwing. Just got out of a wsg where we agreed I’d default to FC since we had no MW or pres, and our mage blinks in front of me to take flag and died before even leaving enemy base. They capped and that started the spiral.
tardy hare
no thats just how they play at that rating
they lack the intelligence to do that intentional
quick ermine
I’m really frustrated despite trying my best and following group strat. there seems to be nothing I can do to escape these losses.
clear pulsar
Is there something going on with the mmr? I was 1989 yesterday and I have probab...
Was this in one of your first few games?
MMR fluctuates a lot for your first 10-15 games
quick ermine
For the week or on the toon? For the week no, I’ve played about 30 games. In total on toon about 150.
clear pulsar
But yeah Blitz in general has such high variance game to game in lower MMR
All I can say is stay strong and push thru against all odds
quick ermine
Like I said I was winning most games got up to 1989 and since then I feel like I’ve been set up to lose.
quick ermine
I certainly will, thanks for the encouragement.
quick ermine
https://discord.com/channels/114145367322394624/282986412624838666/1489502403827...
That’s how my games have looked as well. So frustrating.
clear pulsar
For the week or on the toon? For the week no, I’ve played about 30 games. In tot...
Oh I just misread what you posted and thought your MMR was fluctuating down even after you won.
So yeah no in this case I think it's right to just vent and flame bg blitz as a garbage game mode
tiny oar
Oh I just misread what you posted and thought your MMR was fluctuating down even...
reject blitz embrace arena
clear pulsar
That was a kotmogu where we had 3 paladins. The 2 retri ones combined for less damage than the prot one.
Crazy style
vocal pollen
damn does ret suck
clear pulsar
Some of them
quick ermine
I’m just baffled at how to overcome it due to the people I’m put with. I had a MW say they wanted to FC but sat in mid the entire game. It’s genuinely bizarre.
But anyway, I appreciate the encouragement.
clear pulsar
I think duo queueing with a DPS that has some semblance of a brain is best for this
tardy hare
idk at that mmr it wouldnt surprise me if he just didnt know how to get past the mob
but duoq is bis ye
solo blitz is torture
we only go UP
soloq will make me quit though
its survivable with a friend
tropic schooner
solo q can always be very tilting
tropic schooner
guardians no friendos to duo
but eldragoon is
soft belfry
for pvp in BGs should I be mostly using starfall or trying to kill single targets with starsurge as balance
livid wasp
duo queue is for weak minds
sacred elm
How is rdruid stacking up against other healers in blitz after recent buffs?
quick ermine
for pvp in BGs should I be mostly using starfall or trying to kill single target...
Depends on the situation, if you're trying to prevent a node cap on a team fight you can put out a few starfalls with Star Burst talent, but I usually focus a target.
soft belfry
Depends on the situation, if you're trying to prevent a node cap on a team fight...
tyvm! I also noticed a lot of balance druids going verse haste, I thought that was weird. DO you know why its that over verse mastery?
quick ermine
Vers increases our survivability massively and buffs our dmg, and haste reduces our GCD and dot ticks. They're the preferred pvp stats.
soft belfry
Makes sense, I just figured mastery would be better for burst but idk I havent pvpd since cata lol
ngl I miss resil
clear pulsar
It is better damage in a vacuum
But haste helps get clones off faster and maybe fit in an extra global in between CCs you're chaining
soft belfry
makes sense, thanks for explaining!
tulip falcon
Like I said I was winning most games got up to 1989 and since then I feel like I...
Seeing the same shit i saw when I last played. My main is 2800 cr atm and my alt (same spec) just hit a loss streak at 1.8 mmr last night.
Elo hell is usually bullshit but it does genuinely exist in blitz
My main is significantly less stressful to play than my alt again
harsh ore
Yo
My friends wanna do 3s this season
And
We’ve done games
And
Resto Druid is so dog again
We have like a 40% win rate
Gonna kms
halcyon siren
I don't even wanna talk about 3s man I am insanely hardstuck
Also with a like 40percent winrate
Also gunna kms ofc.
clear pulsar
I think we'll see a lot of resto druid in AWC next week
quick ermine
Seeing the same shit i saw when I last played. My main is 2800 cr atm and my alt...
Yeah it's really odd. My buddy said the system "didn't like" that I shot up so fast so it's trying to put me where it thinks I should be, or it wants to force me to have a 50% win rate. (After the loses I have actually hit a 50% in season overall)
I don't mind losing and I know I don't play perfectly, but it has been nothing but losses in the past 24hr after almost all wins up to 1989.
It really does feel forced after a while.
livid wasp
at least im not the only one hard struggling
surreal plinth
I stil don't really understand crafting, do I wanna use this for my 2 crafted rings?
clear pulsar
No
tulip falcon
Yeah it's really odd. My buddy said the system "didn't like" that I shot up so f...
there's nothing really like that but it's honestly just luck at that mmr
my alt went from 9-1 to 9-7 though lmao
love getting friendly messages from unhinged blitz players
clear fox
I think we'll see a lot of resto druid in AWC next week
X - to doubt
Tuning pending ofc
Dont think theres a comp where Id rather have an rdru over a monk or a prev
late wraith
I don't even wanna talk about 3s man I am insanely hardstuck
Hard stuck where
Cause it’s deflated as shit
late wraith
love getting friendly messages from unhinged blitz players
Everything about this mode seems awful
vocal pollen
I love getting hate messages
Sometimes if I stomp someone in league they add me to send me hate
Makes me feel good every time
tulip falcon
https://tenor.com/view/birmingham-danny-g-average-british-citizen-british-uk-gif-5883114680171836106
halcyon siren
Hard stuck where
clear fox
Cause it’s deflated as shit
shuff most deflated of all time
clear pulsar
We prevail against all odds
tiny oar
bring me back to xbox live voice messages
-# yee the good old mw2 lobby days with some 13 yr old slurring at u and telling you to kill urself while u could hear his parents divorcing in the background and u didnt need viagra to get hard from all the meds ur taking and videogames still had that spark of joy that ur still chasing to this day
vocal pollen
We prevail against all odds
chrome panther
-# yee the good old mw2 lobby days with some 13 yr old slurring at u and telling...
SnD on Vacant
PEAK
GAMING
tiny oar
SnD on Vacant
tiny oar
where boys became men and boys became women
vocal pollen
my fondest memory of mw2 is just showing up to a random internet cafe and playing lan lobbies with people I've never talked to before
vocal pollen
I was like 15 years old playing with 30 year olds
now im a chopped wow player
what even went wrong
clear pulsar
You upgraded
clear pulsar
My face2face name originated in a dota forum
clear pulsar
I was like 11 years old, it's my only online handle I ever used
clear fox
Then I will crush
vocal pollen
I was actually a big am player
but after that my primary pos 1s were the illusion flash farmers
tb naga
my favorite thing to do in dota is farm the entire map at once
just giga gold
its so satisfying
clear pulsar
I hate playing carry
vocal pollen
I eventually started playing mid though because I couldnt stand laning with supports
clear pulsar
Especially farm heavy carries
When I have to go 1 I always pick a early teamfight hero
clear fox
LANCER
chrome panther
i was always too dum for dota
vocal pollen
I do like pl as well
late wraith
shuff most deflated of all time
Is the top rated shuffle player still a prot
chrome panther
Is the top rated shuffle player still a prot
yes
late wraith
lol bless
astral rune
if any tank class is going to be top in shuffle it should be guardian
late wraith
I get deflating 3s cause lower glad requirement
But shuffle? With blitz being how it is makes no sense
clear pulsar
It's a little lame but ig it's dangling the carrot in front of shuffle players to keep engagement up for longer
Mid season
harsh ore
I don't even wanna talk about 3s man I am insanely hardstuck
We’re currently hard stuck 1500 LOL
Our comp is kinda troll tho
X2 warrior + rdruid
clear fox
They messed with some mmr value so it was impossible to get over 2.1 day 1
Seems to be rising, just slowly
harsh ore
I just run mushroom PvP talent and watch it do 40 dispels
clear fox
3s should be solid mmr wise eventually. Highest week over week inflation (20) since I’ve started playing again
clear pulsar
Yeah it's fine I dont mind
late wraith
It's a little lame but ig it's dangling the carrot in front of shuffle players t...
It’s insane to me that they think this is how it’s going to be received when it’s probably just going to be more dead than usual mid season
clear fox
To me it’s like what’s going on here
late wraith
3s should be solid mmr wise eventually. Highest week over week inflation (20) si...
Yeah it’s been fine we’ve been having an okay time of it
clear fox
Bg Blitz >3k
elder valley
anyone have tips for boomie pvp? first pvp season on it and having a tough time lol plz lmk!
clear fox
Shuff 2.2
late wraith
Fr
late wraith
anyone have tips for boomie pvp? first pvp season on it and having a tough time ...
Sure what mode
clear fox
3s sure we have some people getting early glad
harsh ore
Bro fuck PvP just delete it 😡
clear fox
But 1800 there’s always people on prior season mounts and stuff
elder valley
i mostly been trying 2s, 3s and bg blitz
harsh ore
i mostly been trying 2s, 3s and bg blitz
Bro you just listed all PvP modes
late wraith
What are you struggling with and do you have a team for 3s and 2s
harsh ore
elder valley
well its more of a fundamental struggle with balance i'd say, lacking burst and don't really know what to press and end up struggling with talent builds
late wraith
But 1800 there’s always people on prior season mounts and stuff
we will queue into a full r1 team followed by regular players it is a roller coaster of emotions
clear fox
Same in shuff
late wraith
well its more of a fundamental struggle with balance i'd say, lacking burst and ...
What build are you currently using
clear fox
Played against coreygunz (astral glad) one game
Gain some small mmr
2100 peak random hpala
????
elder valley
What build are you currently using
I try to use builds on murlok.io
late wraith
I try to use builds on murlok.io
Good! So kotg yeah?
elder valley
yep
late wraith
Your burst is incarn and you want to get cc on the healer to send it. You also want to maximize what you can do while healer is in cc So a set up could be get your dots on target, root + beam healer and then send your incarn with treants. Or dots on target clone healer send treants incarn
vocal pollen
when was the last time mmr wasnt cooked in shuffle
all I hear is that mmr is just fucked
astral rune
psure it was reset with midnight release
late wraith
Ideally your dps partner and healer are helping you continue cc chains so you can keep sending star surges and wraths in incarn.
clear pulsar
Shuffle being paced doesnt bother me, blitz being a shitshow inflation fest does
elder valley
Your burst is incarn and you want to get cc on the healer to send it. You also w...
for root beams am i using an entangling root instant cast proc and beam or mass entangle?
late wraith
for root beams am i using an entangling root instant cast proc and beam or mass ...
I don’t wait for the proc I have a mass root beam macro
clear pulsar
all I hear is that mmr is just fucked
Tbf pvpers are really fkcing whiny
elder valley
ok so i shouldn't worry too much about using or wasting eclipse just let them rip ? and save incarn for goes
clear fox
when was the last time mmr wasnt cooked in shuffle
uhhh not really sure
theres always been some fuckery
clear fox
Tbf pvpers are really fkcing whiny
When theres zero games >2.4 in shuff
I will always whine
late wraith
ok so i shouldn't worry too much about using or wasting eclipse just let them ri...
Sort of yeah you can still do some good damage with eclipse with a good set up but your real nasty shit is incarn. What specs do you play with in 3s like who is your partner
clear fox
I swear there were weeks/seasons where 2.4 got temporarily harder in shuff
elder valley
i play mostly with ret pala and pretty much any healer
clear fox
for a number of weeks
based off activity
think DF there was one season where me and several other healers were just terrorizing anyone close to 2.4
on not quite bigdam level alts
but a lot
late wraith
i play mostly with ret pala and pretty much any healer
Okay nice so the ret pal can help you with cross cc and set ups and if you coordinate your incarn with their damage while healer is in cc you will notice the difference and likely feel more impactful than you have been feeling
clear pulsar
Yeah some seasons it was really lame trying to fish for the 1 player higher mmr than you to snipe up to 2.4
elder valley
ok, ty for all of the input - what I have been doing mostly is looking for a rake opener on the healer, and then incarn treant our kill target, follow my rake with a root beam, into clone and then might of ursoc and it almost never works out this way lol
I need to put a lot more work into my setup like ui, macros, and better keybinds too would make a huge difference i think
right now I am just pressing keybinds for spells and using sArena to target with mouse clicking
late wraith
I play almost exclusively with a rogue so I never open with rake stun but also I just generally think rake stun opener gets you nothing. Let the pala be in melee you try to position yourself close to their healer in range of your team and the target and open with dots. You want your dots up first then rootbeam and clone the healer.
Being in cat you’re just wasting globals you want dots up fast as possible so you can get cc and rip an incarn
elder valley
yee ok, i'll probably drop rake
late wraith
You want to beat them to the first go and get them scared out of the gate
elder valley
yeah and open with incarn puts it on cd, leaves me a charge and 2 eclipses to keep pressure up
elder valley
roger ty, i will practice
late wraith
Get vods and post them and people can try to help you with specific things
Cause PvP is fluid and changes based on what’s happening so it’s hard to give generalized advice
elder valley
yeah I totally understand, but you were able to answer my questions on the more fundamental problems I am struggling with!
I am gonna practice and tweak a lot of things about the stuff I mentioned before and then look for more advice
late wraith
Awesome you got this
elder valley
specifically focusing on macros, keybinds and improving my targeting skills cuz I definitely lose precious time on swaps for cc
late wraith
Focus macros for cc are game changers
Start with focus root beam for healer
And you will feel significantly better
Then try arena 1 2 3 clone when you feel ready and it all clicks
Also make sure your incarn has a cursor macro so you don’t have to aim and click. Same with treants
All of those will make things feel like 20 times smoother and will speed the game up for you
Is incarn even aim and click anymore now that I’m thinking about it they might have changed that but I have no way of knowing i always use the macro
elder valley
only if you have the orbital strike talent
vocal pollen
that talent is ass as well so never
late wraith
Yeah I was like this probably isn’t the case anymore but treants def need the macro
elder valley
i do have one for treants tho [@cursor]
late wraith
Yeah that one is good
elder valley
i just kinda throw it wherever my mouse is, is that bad lol
its more about the dream surge buff on wrath / SF
late wraith
no not really just try to put them near the target
elder valley
thx again for all of the advice, appreciate it a lot!
late wraith
Yeah of course anytime
clear pulsar
I loved nuclear strike incarn
elder valley
it looks so fuckin cool 🙁
late wraith
me too I miss bowling ball
Aiming it at people and missing was hell
But I haven’t even thought about it in years cause macro lol I forgot why we even had to @ cursor incarn lol
elder valley
i think i was using that with EC when i first rolled boomie at the start of midnight lol, was fun in heroics
clear fox
@clear pulsar ??
vocal pollen
bro took yseras
clear fox
ye but like
vocal pollen
clear pulsar
So is nature's bounty
elder valley
@late wraith do you have a 3s talent string I could look at?
clear fox
its not doing anything
late wraith
<@269313900816629760> do you have a 3s talent string I could look at?
Yep it is probably what you’ve already got from murlok
The diff being I play with a rogue so no bash I use incap
clear fox
every time I think thriving is healing its just the apex
elder valley
yeah I think so too, my ret pala likes to stun the dps 😄
clear fox
Thriving is good
its doing 3.6% of my total healing
late wraith
yeah I think so too, my ret pala likes to stun the dps 😄
If your ret doesn’t want you messing with drs you can incap but it’s not nearly the same for ret as a rogue to mess with a stun dr
clear pulsar
Regrowth duration is very good
late wraith
Rogues be cryyyying when their stun dr gets fucked
clear fox
Regrowth duration is very good
this is where I probs need to just cast more regrowth tbh
elder valley
yeah haha I get that, rogues want to control their stunlock it makes sense
especially for smoke bomb
late wraith
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These are the talents I’ve been running
elder valley
do you ever take remove corruption?
late wraith
Yes into shaman and lock
When no shaman or lock I’m taking that shit ass armor talent cause there’s nothing else to take
random patrol
I take it by default then talent out if I have no use that round/lobby
late wraith
And then for PvP talents I will swap between disarm and the one called I think moon and stars that reduces kick and silence time
clear pulsar
this is where I probs need to just cast more regrowth tbh
You dont have to spam it but it's always good to have uptime on it for Symbiotic Bloom procs
So doubling teh duration
IS more regrowth hot, more mastery uptime on it, and more ticks to proc symbi
late wraith
But a lot of people take clone range
elder valley
And then for PvP talents I will swap between disarm and the one called I think m...
never moonkin aura or owlkin frenzy?
elder valley
ohh ok
late wraith
The third one I switch based on who we’re facing
elder valley
do u ever take high winds?
sometimes im able to bait a kick and still cant land the clone cuz the healer is ranging me lol
late wraith
I take disarm into rouges and mm hunters and then I take moon and stars over high winds cause I plant and cast and if I get kicked in incarn I want the duration reduced
elder valley
ah ok maybe I should try that lol, being a turret
late wraith
I feel like I don’t need the range I need kick duration reduced if I don’t bait precog
If you like to play max range and kite around and stuff take high winds
If you like to stand there and just blast in incarn and trust your perfect and beautiful healer to keep you up while you fake cast into double melee take moon and stars it’s just play style differences
clear pulsar
I always swap stuff in my loadout cuz I dont have a separate one for bgs but this is what I'm usually playing @clear fox
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late wraith
Oh on really big maps though @elder valley high winds is usually better. Like on maldraxxus or nagrand
elder valley
roger that
#showtooltip
/cast [@arena1] Cyclone;
#showtooltip
/cast [@focus] Mass Entanglement;
/cast [@focus] Solar Beam;
these are the macros I made, and this is how it will correspond right?
late wraith
Yeah those should do it
lol those are huuuuge
I love this for you. You are NEVER missing a cast
Get something like plater set up so your focus target has a different looking nameplate if you don’t have that already from pve
elder valley
xD i gotta edit them still sry
i have platynator, i couldnt get plater minion nameplates to fuck off
late wraith
Oh yeah nice I use platynator too
I almost crashed out in raid cause I feel like it’s terrible for pve with the settings I have lol
elder valley
oh no lol
late wraith
I was tanking paladins and my threat vs co tank threat just look the same
I was like well this cannot be good
random patrol
had a dps butt pull
I let him die
three times
you pull the shit you either bring it to me or die fucker
random patrol
I mean I will do pulls as chicken if I have roots and skin
and trees but this shit was cursed
late wraith
Hahahah okay well
chrome panther
tanks whenever theyre so slightly inconvenienced 
random patrol
Im pretty chill but Im not babysitting the dps
chrome panther
just press ironfur and raze lil gup the main characters got fun buttons to slam
late wraith
I’m the king don’t touch my stuff don’t look at me wrong don’t talk back to me
random patrol
or rather I wont save you
late wraith
just press ironfur and raze lil gup the main characters got fun buttons to slam
But
I can’t
I can’t do both please
Please I beg you please
late wraith
The saddest shit is you can do an if and raze but it’ll be the most limp dick low aura unbuffed wasted raze of all time
chrome panther
its funny cuz if bear was anywhere close to the qol/gameplay status of other tanks, either raze wouldnt cost rage and just have a 4sec cooldown, or raze and ironfur would be the same button
imagine if shield slam costed 40 rage
thats bear
late wraith
sorry you can do a ravage and IF and it’s limp dick
The raze I guess you just don’t get your buff duration extended?
If you don’t pool rage for it I dunno man fuck pve
Get my little mounts and get outta there
clear pulsar
its funny cuz if bear was anywhere close to the qol/gameplay status of other tan...
Raze not costing rage with a 4s cd would just be a shitter version of the spec
Idk
Shittier
chrome panther
im just yapping
ironfur sucks ultimately, shit button, has never felt good to press
random patrol
clear pulsar
Crazy concept
livid wasp
blitz games
yay loss streak starting I guess
I like how its enough that one guy sucks in silvershard
that it goes to total shit
tulip falcon
have had a bad session today so far too
livid wasp
1-1 so far
livid wasp
I need to get a wireless headset or something so I can do chores or work out while in queue
livid wasp
eots feels kinda good as feral idk
late wraith
Sorry Zechey and chubby Zechey
stray sigil
livid wasp
hes fat from eating all the rating
tulip falcon
eots feels kinda good as feral idk
yea its more that i can ninja 2 bases and still lose
cos too many factors
stray sigil
tulip falcon
down 100 rating 💀
clear pulsar
<@102094910101913600> are u markers wannabe
No I press convoke to heal
stray sigil
No I press convoke to heal
?
clear pulsar
<:wallahi:1166811733000720395> ?
Except I was in this silvershard game and the map has no recovery treasure leaf thingies. So I was oom. And 2 dps found me. So I'm standing still trying to spam Regrowth and fake a kick for precog so that I can Convoke
And I dont have mana to cast Regrowth
I couldnt fake the fuckin kick
stray sigil
im saying in shufflers u piggy
chrome panther
Except I was in this silvershard game and the map has no recovery treasure leaf ...
imagine being oom
chrome panther
imagine being slowed
YEAH MAN SLOW DURATION REDUCTION
WHILE IM PERMA CONC SLOWED
PIG
stray sigil
haveu thought about not being in consecration
clear pulsar
im saying in shufflers u piggy
Sure
stray sigil
the 40% hammer of wrath buff helped xd
brittle compass
For someone wanting to get into pvp casually (namely BG's, brawls, wpvp and maybe some solo shuffle depending on how I feel), would you recommend balance or feral? I have no real preference for either I like them both
clear pulsar
Have you seen the damage cat convoke does, its pathetic
stray sigil
dumb pig
stray sigil
Have you seen the damage cat convoke does, its pathetic
ur goat is doing it
thoughts?
chrome panther
a rdurid tried to mmarkers me in a shuffle earlier
died in a hoj
stupid rats man
stray sigil
For someone wanting to get into pvp casually (namely BG's, brawls, wpvp and mayb...
both fine both better in some situations
stray sigil
He's leading the lamb to the slaughter
hes higher than u piggy
doing his dogshit strat
clear pulsar
hes the equivalent of supatease
Supatease is my goat
stray sigil
THOUGHTS?
clear pulsar
Your flaming these people cant change me
clear pulsar
🐽
stray sigil
brittle compass
Alright ty, think I;m leaning balance so I could maybe do some healing with the same gear
stray sigil
think balance goes mostrly haste and rdru goes mostly mastery
brittle compass
sure but I meant sincve I'm gearing up my first char if I go balance I can still pvp casually in bgs and stuff as rdruid sometimes
stray sigil
oh ye
livid wasp
deephaul is so much worse than AB or deepwind
late wraith
and im the fotm one
you are absolutely not fotm i am frankly surprised you have not found the shittiest spec this season and swapped to that for no good reason whatsoever
you are whatever the opposite of fotm is
reroll to trash
velvet quest
Fuji isn’t a dotm reroller he just rerolls his new senpai and plays whatever they’re playing. Axtin-feral xeek-dk Saul-enhance urbanmech-windwalker
Next he’s gonna be playing boomkin
vocal pollen
lmao
velvet quest
Yeah
late wraith
✨ 💫 
like this fuji
i gotta work but i just got such a powerful urge to make boomy spell emotes for that rat little bird thing to be casting
stray sigil
u are all cooked
i rerolled ww when it was in the depths of mordor
and im still here
late wraith
girl that is legit what i said and you stuck with it while it was trash
stray sigil
girl that is legit what i said and you stuck with it while it was trash
wdym while
its still trash fr
late wraith
you were also a frost dk during a time when it made no fucking sense whatsoever to be a frost dk unless you wanted to just make your own life hard
stray sigil
you were also a frost dk during a time when it made no fucking sense whatsoever ...
lichkinggodx
stray sigil
no hes stil lthere just not named that
late wraith
what jjk name does he have now
tulip falcon
deephaul is so much worse than AB or deepwind
i dont mind deephaul
eots deepwind and ssm are the ones i dislike the most
kotmogu or flag maps all day ill be happy
livid wasp
I cant climb
this is fucking stupid
kotmogu is the worst
unwinnable
2-3 so far today
2-4
I wanna kill myself
im having so much fun
I eat this ferals ass in 1v1 and he is overall playing really weird but his team wins
so fucking unfair
stray sigil
wtf is big gulp
wintry jackal
sacred elm
How is rdruid in blitz after recent buffs compared to rest of the healers
vocal pollen
tulip falcon
How is rdruid in blitz after recent buffs compared to rest of the healers
still far below pres and mw
grand mesa
Fucking rdruids man
tulip falcon
probably on par with everything else
sacred elm
still far below pres and mw
But not a complete liability like it was previously considered? Lol
livid wasp
I hate this shit game
why cant I get out of this shit
im going crazy
3-6 today
well 3-5 one draw
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tiny oar
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tulip falcon
yabba dabba doo
random patrol
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tiny oar
no thanks im good!!
late wraith
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safe heart
TIME TO DUEL YUGI BOY
vocal pollen
vocal pollen
I think it's 12
yes
random patrol
k
stray sigil
how many mythic dawncrests do I get from timing a 10?
think 12
grand mesa
I think it’s 12
stray sigil
vocal pollen
thats a dog
vocal pollen
pigs are nice
late wraith
random patrol
bacon
random patrol
vocal pollen
rogue is back
stray sigil
rogue is back
vocal pollen
<:deadass:1163123088922263584>
stray sigil
vocal pollen
good seal
late wraith
is the ww nerf actually a nerf this time
tiny oar
