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late wraith
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and will not have anything to show for it

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bless

stray sigil
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he is both yes

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actually he is all 3 of that class pig

lime light
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EP cannot log enh totemic

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too op

grand mesa
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I play all 3 specs

lime light
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3 pigs in one pig?

grand mesa
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Whatever is fun for the season between ele or enh. And then I heal Fuji in 2a and get flamed most seasons

vocal pollen
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I look down on people that cant play every spec their class has

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I'll just sayit

grand mesa
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True

lime light
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u rea guardian pig

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please

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do

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not

vocal pollen
lime light
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PLEASE

vocal pollen
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I am also resto and feral and moonkin

grand mesa
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Okay feral is a stretch

grand mesa
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Ur almost an archdruid

tropic grove
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heroic pug be like

vocal pollen
lime light
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u are a fucking guardian

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too

grand mesa
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I also have puzzlebox

lime light
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there will be a purge

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huge purge

grand mesa
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Why don’t you like totemic ep

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It’s good

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It goes boom boom

stray sigil
stray sigil
lime light
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i dont like enh when its build around hot streak

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and totems like that

lime light
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EP likes to spam stormstrike and pop ascendance to pwn noobs

chrome panther
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feral looken BIG

stray sigil
lime light
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reported

chrome panther
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<@&114146878353833984>

lime light
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@opal sluice 👋🏿

vocal pollen
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giga trinkets for feral

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(idk if alnseer is good for that spec)

lime light
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u are guardian

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dont try to fool ep

vocal pollen
chrome panther
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ngl if i have to feral in keys at all this season

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i wont be mad about it

stray sigil
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or f2f 500 dps fferal

chrome panther
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in keys im a real feral

stray sigil
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face would say the samem

chrome panther
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in pvp idk

stray sigil
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susge

clear pulsar
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I'm #1 dps every m0 I did as feral so far

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Shut yo mouff

lime light
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lets be honest

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some ppl

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like EP are made to do damgur

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real damgur

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but some are made to heal

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its F2F, and girls mostly

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please stick to that

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thanks

chrome panther
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😭

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varu made to do damgur

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ep confirmed

lime light
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some ppl are made to do small damgur

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but an honest damgur

chrome panther
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small damgur becomes big damgur

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one day

clear pulsar
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Crazy thing to say

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Where does that even come from, most of my women friends arent healers in this game

lime light
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u dont have many women friends

chrome panther
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<@&114146878353833984>

late wraith
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all the healers i know are dudes

livid wasp
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its time to queue theres no way around it

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you just have to queue

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it has to be done sometimes

late wraith
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lake heals but she's a ww main now

stray sigil
livid wasp
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life was pretty chill before season started

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now I just feel pressured to queue all the time

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its shitty

chrome panther
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idk man

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queing rn feels uh

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badge

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every shuffle match is some dadgamer dps that goes 0-6 and some multi r1 monk/sub/ret that goes 6-0

queen gust
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Yeah decided to pause shuff after getting 1600. Should be chill late next week as things stabilize.

queen gust
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Also maybe RDruid buffs get announced tonight 👉 👈

clear pulsar
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This poor fury warrior is going 0-5

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And maybe I can carry the 1-5 but

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It's such a sad sight

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Their little 10s cheat death procs

chrome panther
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dude

clear pulsar
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And they know they're gonna lose

chrome panther
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one sec

clear pulsar
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Poor things

chrome panther
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i this fiend

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in my first hpal shuffle

late wraith
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i feel like giving them that was so troll

chrome panther
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died in the middle of the map pveing demo lock pets

clear pulsar
livid wasp
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first shuffle and theres some disgusting resto druid

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ffs

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I see them all the time and you guys say its shit

queen gust
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I mean there's like 15 total RDruids above 1700 in shuffle at the moment. Not sure how you're finding so many lol

lime light
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Fuji is a little El'Papas solider

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true or true

late wraith
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True

chrome panther
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true

livid wasp
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3-3 first game

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against horrible badders

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but cant carry as feral

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cause its the worst spec

stray sigil
queen gust
# livid wasp but cant carry as feral

Winning shuffle isn't about carrying your team.

It's decided by turning the game into a 1v1 agains the enemy healer and outskilling them witch is generally easy thanks to how few people play healer they're almost always the worst player in any lobby.

clear pulsar
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Crazy thing to say

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Healers are always the 2 best players in every lobby

livid wasp
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also why the fuck did they have to reset mmr for blitz

stray sigil
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stolp lying pig

chrome panther
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they are

stray sigil
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healers are objectively the worst players

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dont @ me

clear pulsar
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Any duelist-lifer healer would be 2700 on DPS if they played the role/spec for the same amount of time

stray sigil
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how come ur not

clear pulsar
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If zechey played resto druid for a whole xpac he'd be hard stuck 1950

stray sigil
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healing is so easy be frf

livid wasp
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god these people in blitz

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are so awful

clear pulsar
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We lost every bg when you played MW even tho it's holocaust spec

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Coincidence? I think not

stray sigil
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i just did dmg

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was top dmg top healing though

chrome panther
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impossible to carry blitz as healer rn

clear pulsar
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Yeah maybe you were made for pve parses

chrome panther
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genuinely insane how skewed the matches are

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getting pve geared warlocks that dont know how to put down healthstones

stray sigil
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face mad i outdmgd him

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wcyd

livid wasp
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first game in blitz a loss

clear pulsar
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Blitz is just too random for a few games, small sample size, it's infuriating

livid wasp
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at 1.4k mmr

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I cant do fucking shit

chrome panther
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in the 6 or so games of blitz ive done

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every match has 1-2 literal bots

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walking head first into the zerg and dying, not saying a word

livid wasp
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this game fuckign infuriates me

clear pulsar
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Yeah ofc, so like

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Dont q blitz

livid wasp
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well I already did

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now I have to queue until I dont look like a fool

chrome panther
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ur in blitz man

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lookin like a fool no matter what

livid wasp
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I bet I go 0-5 or something

astral rune
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I believe in the 5-0

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you got this

livid wasp
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well I am 0-1

astral rune
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4-1

livid wasp
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its just a coinflip

misty shuttle
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how are we feeling in pvp at the moment

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as balance

livid wasp
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I fucking hate this shit game

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why does blitz have to be a thing

misty shuttle
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why are there unholy and hunters all over the place

livid wasp
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would be so much better if rating never reseted

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1-2 at this useless mmr

velvet quest
chrome panther
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ZECHEY

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@livid wasp

clear pulsar
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On top of base pve buffs too

late wraith
chrome panther
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yeah base resto

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mana still sucks but ?!

clear pulsar
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Shoutout to blizzard devs

chrome panther
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im happy

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dont think i actually like hpal lmao

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fisher price spec

clear pulsar
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And they're fixing it

late wraith
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i called it out

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i called out the dispels

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they did not know where i their tank was. i do not move. i show them where i'm going to stand and then i stand there the whole fight

clear pulsar
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Ok but nobody is looking at your character model

late wraith
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all dispels get called out for them because of the ui issue. we are still sitting full fears.

clear pulsar
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When they're looking for who to dispel

late wraith
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we call it out before it even happens

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because you can see who it's on

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still no

clear pulsar
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I mean that was the solution ofc but it's just not the reflex

chrome panther
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9% feral seems

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beeg

clear pulsar
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It is (was?) a private aura

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I'm not looking at no bear character models mannnn

late wraith
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okay and we call it out. we say who it's on. we say who it's about to be on even not who is actively feared we give them a ton of time to react.

velvet quest
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they have like 6 seconds to find the right name in raid frames tho

stray sigil
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feral pigs will still say they do no dmg

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just like 30% buff in 3 patches

chrome panther
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lmao

clear pulsar
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Guess who didnt get buffs

chrome panther
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dude ferals 30second go is gonna be insane

clear pulsar
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SSSS++++++ tier spec windwalker didnt

stray sigil
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i was told ww so op

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why no nerfs?

formal wadi
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Feral
All damage increased by 9% in PvP combat.

stray sigil
velvet quest
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Feral
All damage increased by 9% in PvP combat.

clear pulsar
velvet quest
stray sigil
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its so op ww so op

formal wadi
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rdruid double dipping buffs

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restos eating good

visual vale
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We don't have reactive resin anymore as resto, do we?

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I cannot talent into it.

grand mesa
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We do

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It’s a passive

clear pulsar
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Wdym "we"

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Rat

visual vale
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Oh

grand mesa
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Get purged in a duel it’ll show up

clear pulsar
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Dont "we" this

grand mesa
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Wait why did I say we

velvet quest
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i know puzzle as an rdruid main my opinion has never wavered

grand mesa
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I’ve been hanging out here too long

visual vale
grand mesa
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Recently

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everytime we summon brocc in here it’s to diffuse a situation and we go around the room telling her how many pets we have

visual vale
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But face wanted cute rat pictures i thought!

stray sigil
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this place a mod free zone

grand mesa
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And anytime Voulk is summoned in here he threatens to purge us

visual vale
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Alright, found the talent. Thanks lads! ❤️

visual vale
grand mesa
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@tiny oar

stray sigil
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puzzle never wavered

grand mesa
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I may not be bang bang anymore and I go back to boom boom

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not sure

astral rune
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feral buffed PogCat

clear pulsar
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Enhance nerfs are really a slap on the wrist

livid wasp
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so much work to be 50% w-l at 1.4k mmr

grand mesa
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I thought we were in solid spot before the 8% aura buff + 10% buff to most spenders

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I think with these nerfs still ahead of pre buff

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And crash lightning might be worth the pressing now

dusty cairn
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fucking beautiful, healing buffs for rdudu

grand mesa
dusty cairn
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wtf is reactive resin yo

clear pulsar
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A residual hot that gets left when something is purged

livid wasp
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how do some people get such good w-l

velvet quest
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By winning more often and losing less often

livid wasp
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wow is so much better when season isnt active

stray sigil
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burst thats nerfed

queen gust
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Fellas my season of being forced to play Resto/Aff/Ele may be saved

dusty cairn
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9k hot if dispelled now, its dope ill take it

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damn what a beautiful patchnote

halcyon siren
chrome panther
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real

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@tiny oar BUFFA

stray sigil
chrome panther
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idk

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mw lost 8% flat

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pally lost 30% mana regen

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let me cope man

grand mesa
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Hpal didn’t change much

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and VW didn’t get modded from pve stuff

chrome panther
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idk just gotta play like ben

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zero vers

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full aggro

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win on 2nd go or gg

stray sigil
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hpal nerffs

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legit slap on the wrist

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that wont matter

chrome panther
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prob not

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hpal best healer now

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ill play feral and be happy

stray sigil
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idk why feral getting bufffs so much

grand mesa
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lmao

livid wasp
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nothing will change my ruined w-l

halcyon siren
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like straighg up it already felt pretty good man

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9percent is so much i am gunna crank people

livid wasp
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dunno feels like a wet noodle

astral rune
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ty <3 @chrome saffron

tropic grove
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@late wraith i carried my noob friends through a pug normal (i didn't know the mechanics)

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it's hard being HIM

clear pulsar
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?

livid wasp
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how do you people stay sane

grand mesa
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I don’t queue blitz and winning or losing in PvP doesn’t affect my day to day

livid wasp
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no idea how

misty shuttle
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really not sure about this

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feel really weak in pvp rn

tropic grove
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does anyone have the new illusion so that i can see what it actually looks like in game

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wowhead preview doesnt really help much

tropic grove
vocal pollen
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im locked

analog fox
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Is pvp weapon worth crafting?

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For feral

clear pulsar
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No

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You get a free one every season

devout raven
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We about to cook? Resto and feral buffs

random patrol
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eh prob still not enough

tiny oar
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WHERES THE EPSTEIN NERFS

random patrol
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@tiny oar all the orange

tiny oar
tiny oar
random patrol
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I like putting burnt teldrasill twigs in the gbank

wanton ridge
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so early spring and spam wild growth is the play is that what I need to do?

tiny oar
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is how face explained it I think

grand mesa
wanton ridge
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also random q, if you're healer for solo blitz, you can bring someone with you. Can you bring another healer friend? lol

tiny oar
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never queued a single blitz in my life dunno sry chief

tiny oar
wanton ridge
tiny oar
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I think its only dps/heals tho might be mistaken

random patrol
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in slayers rise I see any lowbies Ill gank them for you lake

wanton ridge
tiny oar
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enjoy the blitz

random patrol
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4th toon capped weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

chrome panther
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YIPPEEE

tiny oar
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FORTNITE UND COLA YIPPPIEEEEEE

random patrol
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ironic name right there

tiny oar
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where's the full class changes list

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nvm I found it muehehe

chrome panther
tiny oar
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SUB GETS A PVE BUFF AND NO PVP NERFS

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thats fucking incredible

chrome panther
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ikr

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VW got no DMG nerfs either

tiny oar
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DUDE

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ok I will have faith that they will address this in future changes

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trust the process ofc

chrome panther
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2 weeks till we see anything now probably

tiny oar
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rdruid buffs + some epstein islanders got nerfed + top 3 healers slapped + im crafting all haste mastery and full sending wild growth early spring embrace tech

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we will be okay inshallah

chrome panther
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idk man hpal nerfs are kinda whatsver

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mw still cranks

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1x lb sucks

clear pulsar
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WG also procs treant now my treants pop off lowkey

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Also rdru is melee cleave healer now 100%

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POTA cleave range is tiny

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Infuriating

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With casters

tiny oar
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enhance ww time

random patrol
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or bm ww mw

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triple monk

tiny oar
random patrol
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mint tea mall ninja cleave

tiny oar
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ww ww mw

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most BROKEN comp in game surely

chrome panther
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ngl if I saw fuji myth and lakez on the other team

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I'd panic a bit

random patrol
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mm ww mw

vocal pollen
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pota cleave range infuriates me so bad

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that shit is tiny

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idk why

random patrol
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green machine comp

vocal pollen
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should be way bigger

worldly cave
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So, how does resto play in shuffle? Tempted to try to heal to get faster queues

random patrol
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my comp is ret boomy oracle disc last time I did arena

chrome panther
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idk I've seen zero and I ain't queuing that shit

worldly cave
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Neither have i. Its been all healadins and disc priests

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And exactly 1 pres evoker

clear pulsar
worldly cave
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In PvE.

clear pulsar
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Ok it plays like that but bad

worldly cave
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And im still low enough rating that i dont think i'll get much above my skill level.

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... How bad?

random patrol
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your better off waiting longer qs then playing it def

clear pulsar
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No burst or recovery tools

random patrol
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unless you really like resto druid

worldly cave
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Thats kinda dissapointing.

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I like druid, not super tied to any specific spec.

clear pulsar
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It's not unplayable tho it's ok

random patrol
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I miss renewal but also functional details instead of this buggy reskin

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man tww was great expac

tiny oar
worldly cave
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Squint why the icons for the heals red

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regrowth and wild growth

random patrol
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cause I recolor my shit

worldly cave
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Ah, fair nuff

tiny oar
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fuji and myth definitely scary tho

random patrol
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soon Ill recolor Lakes icons all blue, white and pink

tiny oar
random patrol
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white icons might be iffy in editor though

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others are easy to do

tiny oar
random patrol
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GIMP

grand mesa
tiny oar
tiny oar
random patrol
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now I create truly cursed things

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not ai levels of cursed but maybe worse cause I made them

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lit stick figure shit

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I think the ai could of done much better go go stick figure chicken from hell

tiny oar
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its beautiful

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heck the ai

grand mesa
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True

random patrol
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this card from mtg predicts the future

tiny oar
random patrol
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soon we shall have +1/+1 counters

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that was back when mtg still had a lot of mtg stuff

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now it's tmnt, lotr and final fantasy

tiny oar
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yea now its all crossover shit, stinky

random patrol
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I dont mind that really

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as much as power creep

tiny oar
random patrol
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good talent

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I lack talent

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I cant create life only corrupt it

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like morgoth

tiny oar
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NOPE is not talent, just times time and practice, anyone can create life if they want to voodoo

random patrol
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80 dawncrests per crafted pve item hmm

tiny oar
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am learning and trying to get better every day

random patrol
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and I have to wait a week gross

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I prefer to nurture abominations myself

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if locks, rogues and dks were real well I would pay their salaries

vocal pollen
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not having talent is good, adversity breeds character

tiny oar
random patrol
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mmmmmmmmm no tier wooooooh

vocal pollen
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tier is fake and also kinda gay

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its ok

random patrol
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tbf Im am way to fucking lazy to q 4 druids for week 1 pvp and not hate myself enough to do it

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I dont even have embelleshments

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overrated

clear pulsar
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Axtin confirmed for me that you dont get the base conq mog

random patrol
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alts do

clear pulsar
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After unlocking elite

random patrol
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sounds bout right

tiny oar
clear pulsar
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I'm gonna need to farm conq to rebuy slots I already crafted on for mog later

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More pvping

tiny oar
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very good

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pvp is bis

random patrol
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Im more mad I cant farm mythic dawncrest yet

vocal pollen
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do ?? delve

clear pulsar
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Technically

vocal pollen
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30 myth crests

clear pulsar
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Hit 2100 in pvp

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It's farmable

vocal pollen
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nice so noobs arent allowed to get them

random patrol
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I think got to wait until next week

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when mythic + opens

clear pulsar
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Yeah and in a few weeks more it'll drop from delves too

random patrol
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2100 is easy but week 1 would be fucking so painful

vocal pollen
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login keys then

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when we queuein boss

random patrol
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well yeah

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I have friends to do mplus or guild with

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leather stack cause were all druids

clear pulsar
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Phased will you invite me to keys?

random patrol
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tbf I would only use the 285 gear if I was qing early season to get extra power but Ill prob just wait until like week 8 plus like every season

vocal pollen
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yeah of course

random patrol
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got 4 druids thats a lot of work to gear on

vocal pollen
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im down to do keys with anyone

clear pulsar
vocal pollen
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well most people maybe not anyone

random patrol
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pve is fine like my guild but I normally do heroic without them

grand mesa
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I never got the main I always got girlcxck

random patrol
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their more casual so Ill do that pug mplus Ill roll with them though

vocal pollen
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you got the main sometimes, just on balance or guardian

random patrol
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got to rem this expac is cursed cause triple raid roll out

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cant get aotc until week 3 I think

vocal pollen
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yeah

tiny oar
vocal pollen
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you can get the catalyst achievement from ksm though

random patrol
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mplusers and raiders were pushing 1600 this week

vocal pollen
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and ksm is piss

random patrol
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to get catalyst

vocal pollen
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you can get ksm on literally the same day m+ comes out

random patrol
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if I had 1 toon I would of prob pushed 1600 this week

vocal pollen
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I was thinking about it tbh a bunch of friends asked me to arena with them but idk

random patrol
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I just barely got 4th geared

vocal pollen
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not in the pvp mood....

random patrol
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might level and gear 4-6 more druids soon

vocal pollen
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can I have one druid from you

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I want to make a haranir druid mirror

random patrol
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I have a haranir only cause I can wear shoes on horde side now

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I use zero of their forms

vocal pollen
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haranir are so nice though

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I love haranir customisations and forms

random patrol
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haranir are trolls and elves and orcs and other orcs and vampires

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at the same time

vocal pollen
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yes thats perfect

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thats who I wanna be irl

random patrol
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I want to be a cyborg but we haven't advanced that far enough

vocal pollen
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same I want to be a cyborg as well

random patrol
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I mean sci fi level we got wierd psuedo borgs already

vocal pollen
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if I had my way I'd be a whole ass shapeshifter

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but sadly that will never happen

random patrol
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I just want to replace my body parts that I have perm pain from with mechanical pieces

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chronic pain is a birdword

vocal pollen
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that makes sense, it would be more aesthetic/personal comfort for me rather than pain related

random patrol
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replacing my blind eye would be nice to

vocal pollen
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oh thats crazy

clear pulsar
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Dude voodoo is metal

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He's #pvp 's grandpa fr

random patrol
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have to use sound qs to play wow now

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and blizz made that harder for me

vocal pollen
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best I can do is a scar under my left shoulder from a cat scratching me when i was young....

random patrol
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gg blizz

clear pulsar
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Other channels wish they had a grandpa like us

vocal pollen
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gg blizz

grand mesa
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voodoo is pvp's mythicmeow

vocal pollen
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lmao

random patrol
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Im old bird

vocal pollen
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speaking of that guy

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havent seen him in a while

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being an old bird is good

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you can be an owl

tiny oar
random patrol
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good

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also valeera is useless

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lit tried to kill me 3 times

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I mean she failed

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but still

vocal pollen
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how did valeera try and kill you...

random patrol
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she bugs unstealhs

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pulls shit

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mines while Im stealthed

vocal pollen
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oh yeah thats just delve companion special

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valeera does a shit ton of dps for me though

random patrol
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I mean yeah I could play the treant talent that lets them taunt but thats less dam

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less dam bad

vocal pollen
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you know whats even less dam

#

being dead

#

shape tf buddy

random patrol
#

I havent died yet

#

go go potions

vocal pollen
#

ok well I will be there to judge you when you do

#

death comes for all

random patrol
#

I find delves to be easy

#

usually get tier 11 deathless first try each season

#

if you pull slow as fuck it works out

vocal pollen
#

delves this season are especially easy because valeera is stronger I think

random patrol
#

yep

vocal pollen
#

maybe bear being broken contributes to it too I think but right now I'm pulling like half the delve at once in tier 11s

#

last season week 1 tier 11s were pretty sketch

random patrol
#

I did day 1 tier 11 as boomy

#

memed it with old bounteous bloom

#

I miss old bounteous bloom

#

and nature's vigil

#

man tww was a great expac

chrome panther
#

remember the brief period where tank brann was insane

clear pulsar
#

I like heal HOTW better than old NV

chrome panther
#

god i miss him

vocal pollen
#

is healing hotw good

#

should I start making my dps players use it

clear pulsar
#

Yes dude

#

It's crazy

#

200k heal per target

#

Legit as good of an offheal utility as lay on hands

vocal pollen
#

hmm

#

interesting

#

I might yell at my moonkins

clear pulsar
#

It was 200k in bgs as bear, with pvp ilvl and all, probably less in pve, I should say

#

But like a good 1/3 of HP bars

hidden sphinx
#

surely this is in bgs not arenas right?

clear pulsar
#

Yeah

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No dampening

#

I was doing as much HPS as I did DPS as feral last week in BGs xdd

hidden sphinx
#

im feelin pretty good about tuesday. already feel like ive been going crazy in 3's on the cat.

lime light
#

@grand mesa yooo

#

totemic nerfs

#

stormbringer stonks u[

#

up

#

log in

random patrol
#

wooooh 11 deathless done

#

I mean easy as bear

#

so not really a achevment

vocal pollen
#

good anyway

random patrol
#

at least the vault is fully filled in that slot

vocal pollen
#

what about the raid vault bud

#

wheres the heroic slots

random patrol
#

that's to much work

#

have to pug week 1

#

I mean I could or I could start farming more gold

#

always need more gold

vocal pollen
#

are u a wow billionaire

random patrol
#

190 mill

#

goal is to get more

vocal pollen
#

dude

#

can I hold a few mils goddamn

random patrol
#

on loan sure

#

20 percent interest

vocal pollen
#

those loans will never be returning to you sadly

random patrol
#

why I dont actually give out gold

#

cept to that one guy cause it was funny

vocal pollen
#

everybody I know is a wow millionaire meanwhile im sub 100k gold because of how expensive start of xpac enchants and gems are ICANT

random patrol
#

I was using last expac gems on my pvp gear at least

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haven't bothered to use enchants other then rings

vocal pollen
#

I kinda had to get expensive stuff beacuse its really important we clear heroic asap

random patrol
#

I like to be a miser

#

scrooge mc boomy

#

cept I like christmas

vocal pollen
#

yes same, in my case because I dont have much to spend in the first place

#

sadly sometimes I have to spend a lot

random patrol
#

to make mills you either got to do a lot of profs at he beggining of expac do carries or make gold your main thing

vocal pollen
#

ya pretty much

#

I'm too lazy for professions and I hate boosting

random patrol
#

I like to make gold while in shuffle push

vocal pollen
#

my guild doesnt do boosts either and thats where most people around me get their money

random patrol
#

to many dps just afk

#

I do stuff while they dont

#

why pvpers are poor

#

their to lazy to do it

#

tbf blizz stingy on old ways though

vocal pollen
#

yes im like the laziest player you will ever see

#

my guild offers to just pay for my enchants though if im especially poor, im not too worried

random patrol
#

good old mission tables back in the day

vocal pollen
#

yes wod mission tables turning people into millionaires

#

meanwhile I started playing in castle nathria

tardy hare
#

I just joined Method split runs last year, made 600k and kept it gg

halcyon siren
#

I made a lot of gold just creating mirror powder last expqc while I sat queue

#

10 mins, 18-30k

vocal pollen
#

I dont know what mirror powder is

halcyon siren
#

Just a thing last expac

#

This time it's ciphers. 35mins, 70-150k

vocal pollen
#

interesting

#

I will probably still not do it tbh but it sounds cool

#

gold is good

halcyon siren
#

Yeah

#

I'm happy with it, let's me buy shop items

#

That would otherwise not be available to me

livid wasp
#

it's kinda weird doing low mmr blitzes and thinking you are playing with real people with conscious thoughts

late wraith
#

They don’t even know they’re playing with Zechey

tiny oar
#

it's kinda weird doing low mmr blitzes and thinking you are playing with real people with conscious thoughts

#

coulda stopped it there mate

livid wasp
#

like you play with this person that probably is otherwise considered an intelligent being, probably has an education and a work life, a social life

#

then he leaves bases undefended with rogues running around

#

backpeddling etc

vocal pollen
#

you have to treat people in these games like they arent sentient

#

its the only way to keep mental

late wraith
#

Mans just trying to unwind after a day of working somewhere in Europe

livid wasp
#

idk how I just could make myself not care and trust the system that if I just play fine it will put me at higher mmr than them

#

atm it looks so bad with my 2-2

vocal pollen
#

all good

#

adversity is good

#

adversity breeds character, hard times create strong men etc

livid wasp
#

tough times playing colorful virtual cat in a dying video game

tiny oar
#

I wish you'd quit something that clearly isn't making you happy and find joy and purpose somewhere else.

vocal pollen
#

lock tf in man

#

u need to start winning

#

losing is bad

tiny oar
lime light
#

@grand mesa us there

#

any fix

#

to bloodlust ally/horde

#

in queue?

#

cant use it ever

fiery kestrel
#

I can't find any pvp build for balance

halcyon siren
#

@late wraith @mighty copper

vernal birch
#

Resto druids, if a sub rogue gets on top of u, how do u live? I just had one that oneshot me 3 times in a row through ironbark, barksin, bear form.

halcyon siren
#

u don't

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sub rogue and feral completely dogs me whenever i play resto

#

sub rogue is going to get dragged thru the mud i think

chrome panther
#

praying

halcyon siren
#

caveat: better rdruid might have better advice

grand mesa
#

wishing for rogue to be bad at pvp is like wishing for rdruid to be bad at m+

misty shuttle
#

with the extra damage they take in pvp, is it actually possible that feral might be tankier than guardian? And if not, how much tankier truly is guardian in pvp?

limber mantle
#

Gotta have team peel them. Into sub rogue it's ideal to keep some hots on you and spam star surge to keep mana up to allow for it. So if they swap you and you have hots you can maybe live the stun, then you roar them off into clone if possible. Otherwise you wild charge to teammate and travel form away. Try to pre bear their swap

halcyon siren
#

currently guardian is significantly tankier than feral.

#

like, 50percent or perhaps even more.

#

it's virtually impossible to die to less than 3 dps as guardian at this juncture I think

#

two dps if they're the right ones might be able to do it

misty shuttle
#

hmm

#

interesting

#

because I do basically the same dps as guardian as I do as feral, at least on a dummy

#

what would you say the main advantages of feral would be over guardian?

chrome panther
#

pls do not que tank in pvp content ty

misty shuttle
#

ok please do not use stuns on me in pvp

chrome panther
#

you do not create kill pressure as guardian in any relevent pvp format

halcyon siren
#

the main advantage of feral over guardian in pvp would be that you do more damage

chrome panther
#

you are there to spin a node or be annoying

halcyon siren
#

if you are doing lower damage as feral than guardian currently,

#

you are misplaying.

#

Guardian is also, frankly, likely to see another pvp damage nerf.

#

that's my tinfoil prediction

#

that said, feral also does damage 'differently' than guardian, guardian has a lot of low variance pad

#

feral has spikes

#

on single targets

whole wyvern
misty shuttle
#

hmm ok ty val

#

is guardian tuned differently in world pvp to when in bgs or arenas?

halcyon siren
#

unsure, formerly yes. now? who can say

#

i don't know your goals or skill level but I will say this: I think MOST players will find a lot more success learning feral to push their rating goals than they would trying to make guardian work, ESPECIALLY in arena/shuffle

#

it's really not better in arena/shuffle and arguably it's not 'better' in blitz either.

misty shuttle
#

I only really ever want to get to 1800

#

for the mog

halcyon siren
#

(or learning balance)

#

yeah I think you should just learn feral/balance if you only want 1800.

misty shuttle
#

and at lower CR, being tankier is VERY valuable especially when healer difference can be such a big thing

#

I've previously always played balance

halcyon siren
#

yeah i mean that's just basically not true in my experience but if that's your experience so be it.

misty shuttle
#

but it feels so bad atm, especially vs constant unholy and hunter lobbies

halcyon siren
#

i mean if you think yiou'll find more success as guardian i wish you luck my brother, but i don't think most players will.

misty shuttle
#

to be fair, I just really don't like being the target and having to sit in bear as balance / feral

#

so my thinking is, why not just be in bear to begin with xD

halcyon siren
#

yeah i mean you do you bud, i wish you luck, just don't think you're more likely to find success/hit your goals as guardian than you would be as balance or feral

#

it's not easier

#

like it's not the path of least resistance

misty shuttle
#

that's fair

#

thank you

chrome panther
#

prob the path of most resistance.

#

people in shuffle will deliberately throw games

halcyon siren
#

rdruid might be more resistance

misty shuttle
#

yeah I don't fancy healing

#

I really enjoy guardian in world pvp

#

but I can't find anywhere that shows clearly how things are tuned in pvp in different places

#

wowhead is not particularly clear or user friendly

halcyon siren
#

yeah i mean just try it out, i promise smashing noobs trying to get rep in slayer's rise will not be your avg experience as guardian in basically any game mode above 1300 ratibf

#

pots guardian nerfs

#

post*

tulip falcon
#

guardian has a role on most maps

#

and with the mmr inflation you honestly could contribute nothing and hit 1800 with a lucky lil win streak

misty shuttle
#

is mmr already inflated? or do you mean later in season?

tulip falcon
#

the mmr gains/losses per game are just fucked by default in blitz

#

you can literally go up with a negative w/l

#

to a certain extent

misty shuttle
#

cool

tulip falcon
#

pretty much anyone can get elite in blitz if they get lucky enough and play enough games through the season

#

as in, 2400 elite

chrome panther
#

blitz is great

#

my full green fury war with no enchants got to 2600 in blitz in 9 games in s2 tww

tulip falcon
#

lmao

#

its really terrible for the reward structure

chrome panther
#

then my mmr peaked around 3500 and i couldnt get games outside of 7am

tulip falcon
#

2400 is no longer something to strive for so it leaves a massive gap

misty shuttle
#

I personally prefer rewards being for time investment, preparation, creating builds and that sort of thing

tulip falcon
#

just sucks that the only rewards "worth" anything are the r1 titles & glad mounts

#

i think mop did it best when you had the elite sets at 2.2k, tabard & enchant at 2500, then glad & r1. titles from RBGs every 100 rating up to 2400

#

it had a good distribution

chrome panther
#

mop rbgs man

halcyon siren
tulip falcon
#

now it's like everything except r1 & glad is worthless

#

cos its basically free

halcyon siren
#

unless you're just talking about mmr

#

which is fake in blitz anyways

chrome panther
#

i was getting 198 rating per game

#

all the way to when i stopped

#

math aint mathin nvm im tired

#

i forget atp

#

mmr isnt fake when it limits when you can que though garf

tulip falcon
#

yea you wouldn't hit 2600 CR in 9 wins

#

mmr absolutely possible

halcyon siren
#

if you winstreak 9 games you will be 2600 mmr yes

#

which is a blessing and a curse

#

cursed for ppl stuck at that mmr like me because i will randomly get dogs in my game

tulip falcon
#

big L for your mental state going in streaks

halcyon siren
chrome panther
#

yeah my boomie got trolled in my first 5 or so placement games

halcyon siren
tulip falcon
#

i last did blitz in tww s2 my main feral was at 3kcr/usually around 3.2k mmr and my alt was hardstuck 2k (same spec)

halcyon siren
#

queues 45mins prob would have been voided if i lost 1 more

chrome panther
#

i gave up on it, 30 min ques to maybe get 50 mmr back but i was in the bracket with uh

#

special players

tulip falcon
#

my main this season has been up and down like a rollercoaster

halcyon siren
#

i haven't qeueued this season yet

#

2s ig

#

where i'm 1550 or something

#

TOP 42 FERAL world etc 8)

chrome panther
#

my last 2 blitz matches on main druid i had pve geared tanks so

#

idk man

tulip falcon
#

look at my games played to be not really much rating above other people with barely any lmao

chrome panther
#

you really shouldn't be allowed to hit the que button without full honor

halcyon siren
#

nah wrong

#

pvp needsless barriers to entry not more

#

don't want to deal with ungeared noobs? play better and get out of their mmr

#

lowkey

#

is the solution

tulip falcon
#

i mean you can get full honor gear in 6-7 hours

halcyon siren
#

yeah less barriers is better

chrome panther
#

how do i play better and carry pve geared dps as a healer

#

?

#

they do zero damage and have 0% vers

#

they die in 2 globals

halcyon siren
#

idk bud i only played to 2200 blitz ashealer

#

so i can't speak to that

tulip falcon
#

was funny when i saw that thread about people complaining about training grounds nerf

#

its like bruh

halcyon siren
#

but i def got out of ratleague in like 15 games so idk

#

7 of which were losses

tulip falcon
#

i just winstreaked a little out of rat league again after dropping and im scared to queue again

chrome panther
#

at the very least, pvp trinkets should be required

halcyon siren
#

pvp trinket should be a baseline ability in the spellbook

#

lol

tulip falcon
#

agree

livid wasp
#

dude I queued and im 2-2 at 1.4k mmr

#

its a disaster

tulip falcon
#

lol dw i was negative

#

at the start

halcyon siren
#

i am gunna wait for tues beforeg i queue blitz prob

livid wasp
#

no idea how to climb theyre all just bad and its rng

whole wyvern
#

Getting low mmr during placements in bg blitz is an actual nightmare

lime light
#

i can queue as rsham if ANY big feral

#

wanna vibe

#

blitz

tulip falcon
#

my mmr has gone between 1.3 and 2.6 this ssn

#

like twice

#

tbf

chrome panther
#

yeah the mmr on my hpal swings every win/loss like crazy

livid wasp
#

what is it with polish people wanting to queue worst healer in blitz

tulip falcon
#

a lot of my loss streaks started because of the disconnect bug with battlegroundenemies

#

which should be fixed hopefully

livid wasp
#

so hard to climb

lime light
#

queue with the best rsham

#

to ever log the game

tulip falcon
#

is this why draciel has 8 druids

#

just main whichever one gets the best luck with queues

lime light
#

after like 3 years of not playing 2s at all

#

i queue with a friend

#

as mw fury

#

into backpedling evoker hpal

livid wasp
#

he didnt even get r1 with feral but with sv

lime light
#

never gonna queue this bracket again

livid wasp
#

we can try some qs soon

tulip falcon
#

im gonna level my alt druid

chrome panther
#

take ur pick

tulip falcon
#

for bad luck protection

lime light
#

do i go gnome on warrior

#

i think everyone is gnome right

#

human feels like garbage

livid wasp
#

I am not gonna play at degen 4am hours so no chance of r1 but I wanna get a decent rating at least

tulip falcon
#

nelf meta

lime light
#

whyu do u think nelf is good

tulip falcon
lime light
#

its not as a warrior

#

why would it be

tulip falcon
#

yea not as warr

#

thought you meant in general everyone being gnome

#

read it wrong

tulip falcon
halcyon siren
#

rsham?

chrome panther
#

prob rdru

livid wasp
#

its so infuriating when I get some clueelss guy following me who doesnt follow simple orders

#

and team doesnt listen

late wraith
late wraith
safe heart
#

Beavs you telling me you put my cr on the line with that build when blizzard pre supplied you with the perfect build

#

BLIZZARD MADE THE TALENTS

late wraith
#

haha I haven’t looked at what they give for boomy

#

But I bet it’s got starfall shid in it

vocal pollen
#

I wouldnt trust blizzard made talents

safe heart
#

The blizzard made the talents

#

They know the good ones

vocal pollen
#

you'd be surprised

late wraith
#

Phased you’re being enji baited

#

he’s a dad

vocal pollen
#

my bad....

tardy hare
#

Yeah why would you change talents that blizzard supplies to you

#

Like you'd know better

halcyon siren
grand mesa
#

insane hubris to think ur smarter than the hundreds working at blizzard

#

use their talents

halcyon siren
#

think about how many collective years of game design they have under their belt

vocal pollen
grand mesa
#

thyve been around so long theyve made and fixed the same game design decision problems twice

#

u do not know more than blizzard

astral rune
#

Holinka knew best

late wraith
#

Look now all the dads are acting up

tiny oar
#

think its time us girls start acting up

vocal pollen
#

not a fan of the dads

late wraith
grand mesa
vocal pollen
#

@stray sigil

late wraith
#

There he is

grand mesa
#

Widl Fuji isn’t awake yet

#

He’s plum tuckered out from shuffling as mw

vocal pollen
#

that thing looks so devious on his watermelon

#

he has evil plans

late wraith
#

He was up late watching kalvish sending me screenshots of mayo typing in kalvish’s chat.

grand mesa
#

His sleep schedule is actual abhorrent

vocal pollen
#

lmfao

#

we've all been there....

grand mesa
#

I wake up to dms about shit he’s seeing on twitch at 330am

late wraith
#

I mean both of them are like that they don’t have to be awake for anything

vocal pollen
#

in my last guild I slept through 30 minutes of raid once (9pm)

late wraith
#

If I don’t take a little snooze somewhere between 3-5 it’s over for me

vocal pollen
#

I used to be a napper but im not anymore

grand mesa
late wraith
#

I need to just close my eyes for 20 minutes before I make dinner

vocal pollen
#

that was different lmfao

grand mesa
#

Weefs has to crawl up two flights of stairs with a giant cast on

vocal pollen
grand mesa
#

Had*

grand mesa
late wraith
#

I find them perfect cause if I go a whole hour I am a mess

grand mesa
#

just needed a quick reboot

#

Yeah i got hit with that this week

late wraith
#

Yeah factory reset

grand mesa
#

Woke up from like a 1.5 hour nap

vocal pollen
#

yes if I nap for too long I wake up not knowing what year or time it is

grand mesa
#

30min before raid

#

And I was so lost dazed and confused

late wraith
#

Yeah that’s hell

#

Brain toasted

grand mesa
#

I played the entire raid with the wrong CD and it never registered in my brain

late wraith
#

Enter the dungeon as boomy PvP spec when I’m supposed to be the tank territory

vocal pollen
#

there was a mechanic on dimensius where I was supposed to say backup right but I just said left right

#

and we died

#

and it didnt occur to me that I didnt even say the right thing ICANT

#

my brain was so fried

late wraith
#

lol on the alleria fight beginning of second phase I ran in and started hitting her in cat. She 1 shot me

grand mesa
#

I want it to be Tuesday so I can raid again

#

Have I become pve pilled

late wraith
#

I was catweaving

astral rune
#

Don’t touch the purple orb lol she will disintegrate you

#

We had a rogue shadowstep onto it lmao instadead

livid wasp
#

lifes so easy for you pvers, no win-loss ratios

late wraith
#

Holyyyy

#

Bitch all of us PvP

vocal pollen
#

there is a win loss ratio

livid wasp
#

just brainless killing dragons and you get dopamine out of it somehow

late wraith
#

Like what are you talking about

vocal pollen
#

I lost on wednesday

#

couldnt kill the boss....

late wraith
#

Zechey’s brain has gotten so addled from whining and feeling sorry for himself he doesn’t recognize anyone anymore

#

It’s sad we should just leave him be

astral rune
#

W-L in pve come through in logs and I went 0-6 pmuch

vocal pollen
#

how I am after one bad night on a heroic boss

tiny oar
clear pulsar
#

Is phased zechey with PR training?

#

Food for thought

vocal pollen
#

zechey seems like a nice fellow, he is just misunderstood

tiny oar
#

no

vocal pollen
#

he knows that winning is the only thing that matters

late wraith
#

lol

tiny oar
#

hes fully understood pal

#

his perspective just SUCKS

vocal pollen
#

I was talking to another friend ages ago and I was so mad at not doing well on nexus king that I said im waiting for my food to get cold before I eat it

#

"I dont deserve hot food"

chrome panther
#

😭

astral rune
#

Zechey just needs a Druid army so they have multiple mmr refreshes like everyone else in blitz or whatever

vocal pollen
#

its ok

#

he's just passionate

#

when I win I say I'm the best that ever touched the game, when I lose I say this time im really gonna do it

livid wasp
#

it would be best if it wasnt possible to lose

vocal pollen
#

exactly

#

you need to grind until its not possible for you to lose

#

thats what being the best is

grand mesa
#

Zimbita zechey and phased are the 3 I’ll defend until the end of the earth

vocal pollen
#

dude u cant lump me in there??

clear pulsar
#

Yeah idk I just feel like if I felt this type of way about the game I'd really want to be competing at a higher level

#

Otherwise I'd just go find something else to do

vocal pollen
#

yes thats why I play league and dota

#

inherently more competitive games

grand mesa
#

@late wraith trying a new strat with wife

vocal pollen
#

LMAO

#

that cannot be the ideal strat

grand mesa
#

She’s still typing …

chrome panther
#

oh boy

clear pulsar
vocal pollen
#

yeah its way harder to play league well than wow well, thats why its more competitive