#pvp
random patrol
grand mesa
chrome panther
@late wraith as boomie do you just go all haste? i figured mastery would be better for kill pressure during incarn but legit every boomie on murlok.io is full haste
clear pulsar
Tranq cranks???
late wraith
<@269313900816629760> as boomie do you just go all haste? i figured mastery woul...
all haste yeah
fast clones
late wraith
face
stray sigil
noob
clear pulsar
I only queued 1 game
To buy a pvp trinket
For convoke dam
I'm also perchance prob the best geared player in these lobbies
With 4p and 675 weapon
late wraith
tier is impactful for everyone cause you hear a little caching sound every now and again. it's huge. 10/10
late wraith
i hear it i love it
chrome panther
as boomie its very satisfying getting so many mushroom procs
late wraith
dunno what it does doesn't matter caching!
clear pulsar
Ye idk its RNG heavily but it does a good chunk of healing
late wraith
yeah the healing is good on my little priesty from it
livid wasp
time to make shitty bloody token set shoulders I guess
chrome panther
maybe if we get tranq immune back
alpine fern
yo, do you guys know why most people still play tranq even though we lost the immunity bubble? is it just to have one extra hot for the mastery?
alpine fern
ahhh i see. thanks 🙂
late wraith
does it go through los? is it like divine hymn
chrome panther
yeah
clear pulsar
yo, do you guys know why most people still play tranq even though we lost the im...
Shit cranks
Half of someone HP in 3s sign me tf up
alpine fern
good to know. might be able to keep some people alive then :p
clear pulsar
Yeah one use, 5M+ healing per target
late wraith
it makes sense now why the druids i see running it are trying to hide behind pillars to use it
just like hymn
you gotta try to get as many ticks out as you can before someone sees what you're up to lol
tiny oar
LOL
late wraith
getting a full hymn channel behind a pillar is such a good vibe like hell yeah get owned. idiots.
tiny oar
getting a full hymn channel behind a pillar is such a good vibe like hell yeah g...
huge morale boost, we cant lose now, these clowns just gave us a full hymn !
late wraith
like you're doing a little crime and getting away with it
that's how pvp should always feel tbh
alpine fern
that's how pvp should always feel tbh
either this or the good old "I am going to give you two options and you can choose the bad one or the worse one"
high tundra
are 2s unwinnable as 2 dps vs any comp with a healer
velvet quest
depends what the 2 dps are ull prob be like 300 cr lower than ud be if u played with a healer tho
late wraith
you gotta approach dps 2s with the mindset that literally everything is your counter and if you win you're a god and if you lose you got countered.
then it's very winnable. not actually you'll lose most of them but like not your fault so still a win
high tundra
i see
how is rdruid in 3s
my friends are begging me to heal for them because they keep losing 2s as dps
random patrol
twos is a meme bracket best to meme it play something one shotty or do dps plus tank
high tundra
i thoight 2s was the most competative bracket and doing well meant youre the most skilled 💔
anyway if i joined them we would be doing 3s instead
but idk whether to just play my rdruid or level a new healer for pvp
pvp healing seems to scary and bursty for HoTs but ive got 0 clue how rdruid works in pvp
late wraith
2s gets extremely sweaty and hard past 2100
but all of the brackets get hard at some point
tropic schooner
but all of the brackets get hard at some point
while it does still nowhere near as competetive as 3s ever since they removed titles from 2s
ancient crane
is there a guide for balance for solo shuffle?
lone zenith
Any recommendation how much haste and versa should i go for solo shuffle, before going mastery? As resto
nocturne nacelle
Do we wanna wear tier for pvp? 4 set?
mental crypt
Do we wanna wear tier for pvp? 4 set?
Which spec?
Both feral and resto seems good enough have 4p
nocturne nacelle
Which spec?
Both feral and resto seems good enough have 4p
Balance
mental crypt
Dunno I don't touch this spec
chrome panther
Balance
imo yes.
with 2p+sunseeker talented you have pretty insane uptime on mushroom slow/dot
nocturne nacelle
So 2p not 4?
livid wasp
why did enji leave us
livid wasp
he is 2k in shuffle on his feral
stray sigil
stray sigil
he is 2k in shuffle on his feral
whats ur shuff cr my boy
late wraith
he is 2k in shuffle on his feral
This season?
stray sigil
im just 1.7k havent queued much
pump up those numbers
stray sigil
i also was a 2-4 merchant for a bit
but since mmr got retained a bit
it worked out
livid wasp
I went 0-6 and 1-5 once you dont know how it feels on the soul
you feel like everything is going against you, the walls are toppling around you
stray sigil
clear pulsar
clear pulsar
Yeah
stray sigil
stray sigil
u need big fuji to carry u ?
clear pulsar
stray sigil
im ready
clear pulsar
Are you tho
clear pulsar
stray sigil
charred narwhal
As a bear druid, in silver shard mines, I feel fairly useless. As an off cart person, I don't have enough to assist my friends nor enough damage to pressure. I can CC, which I do, but it feels bad. I can spin the main cart, which feels fine. Is that my main goal as a bear there? Any suggestions?
late wraith
i don't think anyone in here plays bg blitz seriously but definitely the number of bears you're going to find in here are limited
most of us do 2s, 3s or shuffle on rdruid, feral, boomy and for some reason no one can understand, ww.
livid wasp
just play feral or boomy
late wraith
i think cherry's oasis discord has a lot of bg blitz people who hang out in it. it won't be bear specific but it might be useful to you
barren osprey
Feral tier 2piece + blood talons has been a lot of fun for me so far this season for pvp
clear pulsar
Your goal is probably sorta to be disruptive. Bear doesnt deal real damage so maybe you need to lean into heavily into keeping people out with vortex typhoon, the charge stun + cyclone and maybe catweave for maim even,
livid wasp
yeah you gotta be real supportive and play objectives perfectly to be a good asset as a bear
charred narwhal
Thank you for the advise! I appreciate it. I have a really bad w/l ratio on that map specifically.
charred narwhal
Your goal is probably sorta to be disruptive. Bear doesnt deal real damage so ma...
I use mass root b/c of the shorter CD (30s vs 1 min). You think vortex would be better? I have also tried incap roar instead of bash due to the CD difference. Not sure if it helps much. I haven't tried the charge/knock back. I should for sure.
charred narwhal
just play feral or boomy
Lol, no thanks. I wanted to try something new this season 🙂
charred narwhal
i think cherry's oasis discord has a lot of bg blitz people who hang out in it. ...
Thanks! I will look into that discord
clear pulsar
You can play a talent that makes your regular root instant or did that get removed?
I dont think mass root is useful in an offcart situation
charred narwhal
You can, which I did try, but the range is awful
charred narwhal
The range of root goes to 10yds with that instant talent
clear pulsar
Thats ok run fast
charred narwhal
ha XD
clear pulsar
Maybe not a great talent but yeah
charred narwhal
So far the other team has a bdk and he just kidnaps my other healer and I feel like what i can offer doesn't compare on that map. I think perahps just trying different talents and being more disruptive vs just focusing lava and have tankier / quick DPS go off cart
charred narwhal
The majority of the games I have played on Silvershard Mines has had a blood DK** (not in a game currently)
late wraith
<:SUS:1255955773918544005>
clear pulsar
The majority of the games I have played on Silvershard Mines has had a blood DK*...
It's probably not all that different I'd imagine. You have a lot of stuns, typhoon and vortex for displacement, spammable Cyclone. So you cant just triple grip 1 person 80yd away, but you can cycle through all healers with CC very often.
If you're in a fight maybe you try to bother the BDK
charred narwhal
Yea, very true. Good ideas! Thanks
hardy quiver
what are the odds rdruid gets buffs with the pve patch?
i feel like we might be chalked for awhile
chrome panther
need tranq immune back if anything
stray sigil
harsh ore
People here self harm by playing PvP
late wraith
hardy quiver
stray sigil
desert hawk
Assuming I’m bad, but in 2s I feel like I’m just damping everyone as feral. Normal or skill issue?
livid wasp
we are all bad apart from axtin
grand mesa
Fuji is used to be good but now he spends his time trying to snipe me in 2s at 1600 MMR
tiny oar
LOL
livid wasp
sad fate
stray sigil
livid wasp
https://www.twitch.tv/geoguessr best e-sport
tropic schooner
Zechey goes geoguesser pro?!
livid wasp
too unforgiving
tropic schooner
Just don't make mistakes
livid wasp
just remember everything about every country to recognize them
tropic schooner
Yea easy
clear pulsar
Zechey goes geoguesser pro?!
I think his hyperfixation quota is filled up with resto druid hate and stockholm syndrome feelings for wow
tropic schooner
there are a lot of trees in geoguesser
so if he learns to hate them all he can understand what is or isnt a polish tree
languid dock
anyone play rdruid in blitz? top rdruid uses Liveliness talent which seems useless beacuse we dont really benefit much from moonfire correct? there's just healing and hot benefits from casting wrath. 5% faster hots doesnt seem worth a talent point that low...why would I not just take heart of the elder druid for more damage and healing instead? or even forest's flow would be good. just seems like a useless talent. am I missing something that moonfire does in the talents?
also is efflorescence even an ability? seems dog shit. high mana cost, low healing. i feel like you only take it to acess other talents but dont understand why you would even bother casting it other than maybe on pure teamfight maps where people sit in same small area
open spoke
anyone play rdruid in blitz? top rdruid uses Liveliness talent which seems usele...
Yeah liveliness is shit. I dont think forest flow is good either. We have like 1 or 2 flex points - we can take dreamstate, call of the elder druid or NS cd reduction
livid wasp
just take that new giant tree thing and win every game
jk no idea what it is or what it does
clear pulsar
anyone play rdruid in blitz? top rdruid uses Liveliness talent which seems usele...
Efflo is super efficient healing if people stay in it, which is fairly reliable in most bgs.
And I'm sure you can play spring blossoms in a bunch of maps to maximize it even. Maybe a niche thing, but people occasionally do it even in arena when playing some turret caster comp like shadowplay, or melee cleaves that stay in 1 place.
open spoke
And I'm sure you can play spring blossoms in a bunch of maps to maximize it even...
yea dannycarry plays that in 3s iirc
clear pulsar
Makes sense. Leaning into efflo is very strong if people ever stay in it yepyep
open spoke
master shapeshifter for blitz though hmm.. might have to try it, the mana refund on starsurge seems good
stray sigil
Makes sense. Leaning into efflo is very strong if people ever stay in it yepyep
i dont wanna
zenith swan
Clonecity = samiyam?
chrome panther
wavering
clear pulsar
He's just doing delve splits so he can go kill the underpin tier ??
Nothing to see here
stray sigil
grand mesa
grand mesa
i do bootyful delves everyday
until it's capped
level
and doing it on disc and rdruid means i get 8 bootful delves worth of exp
@clear pulsar
i unbound wrath as 1 on caster form
it is now shred
for fluid form
velvet quest
i do bootyful delves everyday
Doing 32 delves this week to fill vault on 4 characters 
stray sigil
velvet quest
no im only like 60
this is my first week being full mole
i was moleing so hard on my rogue i did 4 bountiful delves and didnt get map so i did world quests for key fragements to do another bountiful and didnt get map and then i did world soul thing twice for 2 more keys and still didnt get map and then i had to buy the summoning thing and i was pissed cause i wanted to minmax my undercoins but now im doing delves on my 4th char so i can funnel undercoins to my main next week in case i dont get map
mole person gigachad
random patrol
I did solo 11 at 609 with healing brann
brann is useless at level 23
didn't die once though so eh
grand mesa
i was moleing so hard on my rogue i did 4 bountiful delves and didnt get map so ...
People might not appreciate this paragraph
But I do
velvet quest
im doing some proper schemes im sandbagging main and holding all runed crests until i can get 658 in every slot and then i insta send them and same on my alts with the discount and ill have like 3 660 chars rdy
plus a mage thatll still be 630
velvet quest
wrong im gonna be the next firedup ive gone through this phase every rwf but this time itll last more than a week
steady flume
Where do you find pvp guides? for rdruid specific?
vestal citrus
master shapeshifter for blitz though hmm.. might have to try it, the mana refund...
mana longevitiy is big
either cycling your drinks with other healers or finding ways to sustain is big
you do wanna be careful with trying to regain your mana with offensive play when rdruid is a certainly a ramp/maintenance kind of healer and falling behind and catching up burns significantly more mana than keeping people healthy in the first place
vestal citrus
Where do you find pvp guides? for rdruid specific?
yt really
steady flume
yt really
damn ok ty
Whats the best way to get the rating for the full xmog set? Solo or bgs?
languid dock
Whats the best way to get the rating for the full xmog set? Solo or bgs?
ive played blitz on 8 characters this season so far, it takes 2-3 hours 0-1800 and depending on how much more you want it's far easier to get 2400 in blitz than any other bracket
steady flume
ive played blitz on 8 characters this season so far, it takes 2-3 hours 0-1800 a...
Hellll yeah thanks
languid dock
Hellll yeah thanks
the initial queue for blitz dps is really long, so its better to do healer. but after a couple wins you get to same mmr as everyone else and its same queue time as healer
steady flume
the initial queue for blitz dps is really long, so its better to do healer. but ...
thats nbd, i basically only play druid for healer
harsh ore
until it's capped
whats cap again?
is cap weekly or daily?
so x4 bountiful a day up to... 21? delves in the week?
harsh ore
by cap i meant brand level cap btw
im assuming
im no where near the cap
and can just do x4 a day
clear pulsar
Level 80 I think
grand mesa
its 80
grand mesa
ur asking good questions i don't have answers to
rn im getting my delves to t11
so i can get the 31 gilded
on my druid
harsh ore
fair
acoustic fiber
why does this new tree have a cast time? it feeels so bad 😦
random patrol
you can ns it but yeah has a cast time
vestal citrus
@grand mesa aespa bundle dropped on discord
wya bro
of anyone i wouldve assumed u would be a kpop stan
languid dock
you can ns it but yeah has a cast time
wait wait you can nature swiftness it? i mean that seems to negate cast time anyways
livid wasp
I really hope they will buff feral
livid wasp
my damage feels so dogshit
tropic schooner
can someone guide me
no one can do that
livid wasp
every shuffle I play my damage feels like poop and I feel like im playing on the complete edge trying to clutch a win
harsh ore
Blizzard PvP developers: More of a myth than unicorns
wintry jackal
Stop playing shuffle
wintry jackal
every shuffle I play my damage feels like poop and I feel like im playing on the...
Jk but send a vod
I can try and watch
Do you bleed snapshot
Also are you pumping bites?
Our 2 piece is nuts bro
stray sigil
Stop playing shuffle
wrong
stray sigil
shuffle is bis
wintry jackal
🤮
wintry jackal
Q up at 2k+ just for a warrior to flame me after shock waving and resetting to quarter Dr at 5 secs left
And then the warrior proceeds to zug zug me next round
Yeah solo fr just a healer 1v1
random patrol
ngl haven't qd a single rated match yet this season
waiting until mid season for anything prob Idk
wintry jackal
Oh
livid wasp
but it cant make that big a difference
wintry jackal
Idk when I was in full greens I was still pumping in 2s
stray sigil
doi you still not have 2set somehow zechey
wintry jackal
Fuji he’s trippin right
People playing at 2k+ 3s are telling me feral is strong af
stray sigil
its rog > feral
wintry jackal
Yea
livid wasp
it just feels like shit
wintry jackal
zechey are you doing stuff differently
wintry jackal
Oh
Idk if you’re gearing I would do 2s
Solo shuffle is like gambling
Also 2.1 isn’t bad for this early in season
random patrol
Im doing the thing I do every season and waiting to q until like mid season
livid wasp
blitz is gambling
random patrol
inflates starting mmr cause Im lazy as f
livid wasp
shuffle is all skill based
wintry jackal
Shuffle takes some skill ig
random patrol
love shuffle could q it all day cept the q times are long as f
stray sigil
ive had short af q times this ssn
average prob less than 10mins
somehow
someway
but i also qd all my games week 1
prob does affect it
wintry jackal
random patrol
one time i had a 5 minute followed by a 1 hour plus
livid wasp
week 1 felt faster
stray sigil
one time i had a 5 minute followed by a 1 hour plus
i just drop q after like 25-30
wintry jackal
I hit 2370 on 2 Druids last season
stray sigil
cuz u get into
random patrol
I just play other games or make gold
wintry jackal
But I can’t do q time simulator
wintry jackal
You mean the disc fotm?
wintry jackal
Fuji do you 3s for glad and just solo on the side?
livid wasp
just do other stuff while in queue
stray sigil
wintry jackal
livid wasp
1-2 shuffles a day is plenty
wintry jackal
Dang I think you’re the first person I’ve met who prefers solo
livid wasp
thats like 12 games
stray sigil
Dang I think you’re the first person I’ve met who prefers solo
yeah i love qin
into the same 3 comps over and over
and over
assa aff
thunder
jungle
POG
now this ssn is sp rog
arcane rmp
or frost rmp
i would rather cut my dick off
wintry jackal
wintry jackal
Yeah I get it
wintry jackal
Oh yeah
stray sigil
on a spec that already cannot die
stray sigil
this whole thing
about specs that like u cant do sshit against cuz u cant catch them
is so toxic for the game
like u have to ignore dev/mages on certain specs entirely cuz u cannot get uptime
is a condimented design choice
livid wasp
rmp was never fun to face
wintry jackal
Idk I had a friend who climbed spriest destro last season into thunder and got glad
So it can be done
stray sigil
oh glad def is piss
got to 2.2 with a rdru and puzzles once a month enh shaman
on a spec i played for like 2 months
grand mesa
My enh was great
Showed greatness once every 5 games
Ben crashed once every 3 games
wintry jackal
Well I guess this is just an example of play what you enjoy
But tbf aren’t you still cooked if you solo q into an arcane mage rogue lobby lol
stray sigil
But tbf aren’t you still cooked if you solo q into an arcane mage rogue lobby lo...
arcane is aids
but its good with me too
so i get 2-0 atleast on paper
for free with arcane
rogs not awful
sub feels like shit on ww though
stray sigil
i mean i dont randomly die in duel
but ww still dies in stuns
and sub is disgusting still
grand mesa
Well I guess this is just an example of play what you enjoy
It’s silly to try and play the meta week 2. We got two patches of completely random reworks to go. Hpal didn’t exist week 2 of last season either.
stray sigil
It’s silly to try and play the meta week 2. We got two patches of completely ran...
2 more patches to go only for rog lock rog mage to be SSS
grand mesa
I’m tired of Aff assa
stray sigil
I’m tired of Aff assa
get ready for new and improved
OUTLUL/SUB/ASSA AFF
EVERYTHING GOES
grand mesa
Ya I stick to pve
stray sigil
stray sigil
@clear fox never getting 4 hours
shut vale
QUICK QUESTION!!!! Elemental Focus Lens only requires 1 socket, and having 6 doesnt increase proc chance right?
grand mesa
0 shot those games lasted 30min
Wrong both healers played exceptionally and dragged every round to damp and 4 min shuffle rounds
stray sigil
QUICK QUESTION!!!! Elemental Focus Lens only requires 1 socket, and having 6 doe...
correct
stray sigil
Wrong both healers played exceptionally and dragged every round to damp and 4 mi...
so u had 5mins rounds every rounds in shuffle
@grand mesa am i reading this correctly
late wraith
Nah new map tilts me
it's like if you took blade's edge and made it significantly worse in every way
late wraith
gonna be so real with you bestie
i play so little shuffle i did not realize it wasn't in there
i knew dalaran sewers wasn't
stray sigil
idc about sewers but hook point is melee map
u guys get tolviron
why cant i get hook point
winter pollen
we thinking wildstalker is better than grove guardian for resto blitz now with the mastery increase?
chrome panther
nah
winter pollen
still grove? any reasoning?
winter pollen
the symbiotic blooms is an extra 20% healing, and the grove guardian gives 5% extra healing per tree
chrome panther
this spec is piss in blitz idk
winter pollen
so seems like the symbiotic blooms are better healing now
chrome panther
i just play boomie
winter pollen
the only talent that makes me lean more grove is 8% damage reduction if regrowth is on you
that seems nice
but im typically not focused a lot in blitz and if i am its easy for me to kite or get away with travel form
winter pollen
the new ancient of lore right?
the new ancient of lore is like 30% of my healing right now lol
chrome panther
Ding does 
winter pollen
im using the perk that makes tree of life cooldown reduced by 5 seconds when a grove guardian fades too
it makes me able to use the tree pretty much everytime i need it in a team fight
winter pollen
I see people using energey redstribution beacon but isnt that shit for resto druids because it only applies to regrowth?
shut vale
does recrafting a ring with a socket, remove the socket?
random patrol
that's how it's supposed to work yes
velvet quest
thats not how its supposed to work its an oversight based on a fake precedent
languid dock
I see people using energey redstribution beacon but isnt that shit for resto dru...
Even on a class that does single target heals i don't use it anymore. Ascension if not getting focused like I would on a flag map or I use the starlight shield if I know I will be dying
hardy quiver
Beacon feels good with the tree pvp talent ngl
livid wasp
how to play wow without tilting
tropic schooner
how to play wow without tilting
try to focus less on individual games and try to focus on improving and figure out what you can do better
livid wasp
its so hard
chrome panther
help im in full greens
static steeple
wow
resto 4set with pvp nerf is still very good in arena
the rejuvs it procs even work with thriving
clear pulsar
Yeah it does
And if you ever get WGs out of it that helps proc WIldstalker withotu using mana on manually casting WG I guess
winter pollen
Should I get 2h weapon for mastery or haste as resto druid? I only do battlegrounds.
mastery is king this season right?
winter pollen
resto 4set with pvp nerf is still very good in arena
does 4 piece work with lifebloom triggered by our early spring pvp talent? I've noticed a lot of lifebloom talents dont
clear pulsar
I'd go mastery. More haste ooms you faster too.
wintry jackal
how to play wow without tilting
Play with friends and for fun not for rating like enten said don’t focus on individual games unless reviewing gameplay and specific moments to learn
Shuffle is a toxic ass mode and there is skill to it as you get higher but let’s be real most of the time it’s a healer duel with dps occasionally influencing the game at lower mmr
livid wasp
its only fun when you win
clear pulsar
Shuffle is a toxic ass mode and there is skill to it as you get higher but let’s...
This is insane lmao
DPS have by far the most agency in shuffle
random patrol
best part of dps in shuffle we fuck over the healers trying to go 6-0
lit never let the healers win
wintry jackal
This is insane lmao
Disagree at low elo
Even at 2300+ mmr last season on 2 ferals I was playing with dps who would reset drs (clearly weren’t looking at DRs) and legit treating PvP like a mythic+
The majority
tropic schooner
its pretty clearly true, however also not relevant for 99.9% of the playerbase
wintry jackal
If you are playing with healers who don’t rotate CDs well at low elo where people legit don’t know how to PvP you lose
tropic schooner
reason being it true is that the very best dps players have higher rating then the very best healers
wintry jackal
Yeah I think it’s a different story when you climb
tropic schooner
so if you are better then the other ppl you have a higher chance to win as dps
tropic schooner
Yeah I think it’s a different story when you climb
correct because most people arent better then the other ones in the lobby
therefor they will have around 50% winrate
so the agency for the roles isnt relevant
because you compete with equally skilled opponents
wintry jackal
I also think the rating difference is due to how healer mmr works which they are rightfully complaining about but that’s a separate issue
clear pulsar
I think it's just an expectation of how people play thing. Healers dont start to play aggro well and try to outplay enemy healer that way until some idk X level of rating
tropic schooner
I also think the rating difference is due to how healer mmr works which they are...
the way mmr works is the same
clear pulsar
So there's very rarely even any skill expression in how they play
tropic schooner
ehh
wintry jackal
CD trading and throughput is essential in zug zug matches where DRs aren’t being paid attention to and CC chains are a miss
tropic schooner
properly playing safe and back while keeping LoS is also skill expression just different then aggro
wintry jackal
Yeah I lost my last match to hit elite in shuffle cus Hpal wanted aggro on an aff lock and my frost mage wanted to sit back
And I’m feral so I’m just getting eaten alive in the middle while our hpal is eating cc
tropic schooner
yea happens
wintry jackal
So aggravating
It’s why I will play shuffle but idrgaf about it
And will always prefer 2s or 3s
tropic schooner
So aggravating
interesting I know quite a few ppl have that feeling
but for me thats a lot less frustrating then solo games
if other ppl make mistakes or tilt a lot less tilting then me fucking up my micro again
wintry jackal
I also hate solo as dps cus you can’t just “go again” and try and correct or hope you get better teammates
wintry jackal
Just knowing your DPS rotation will get you to 2.2k mmr in shuffle <:shrugeg:111...
Yes
Which is why it’s a healer duel half the time
tropic schooner
Just knowing your DPS rotation will get you to 2.2k mmr in shuffle <:shrugeg:111...
tbh true in normal 3s aswell
just gotta pump
wintry jackal
Idk I like wow PvP gameplay and will solo, but solo shuffle should have been solo q into 3s bracket
tropic schooner
absolutely not
wintry jackal
It would just make people play more 3s
tropic schooner
yea to farm shuffle queuers and get absurd winrates
chrome panther
puzzle can verify I do indeed storm bolt 1/4 DR
still got 2250 just slamming my face into the keyboard playing fury 
tropic schooner
so you have to cap mmr even harder which is frustrating or have basically only games played be relevant
would be absolutely stupid solution and wouldnt really fix any issues, which mostly is the queue time for dps
late wraith
I got hit with a 0.5 second stormbolt I honestly didn’t think they went that low
I was impressed
stray sigil
I think it's just an expectation of how people play thing. Healers dont start to...
2.7 mmr last ssn
have not seen any good healers
other than meta
this a myth
clear pulsar
Yeah
So how can healer diff be a thing
If they're all just bad
DPS has all the agency
livid wasp
if you are good enough you can carry the shittiest healer
clear fox
@clear pulsar how does prosperity work
it feels like im getting too many swiftmends
to they cooldown independently
or am I just like never wasting cd time now or something
clear pulsar
<@102094910101913600> how does prosperity work
Not independent but yeah just efficiency
Maybe you're getting good renewing surge value
Hard/impossible with just 1 charge
chrome panther
I got hit with a 0.5 second stormbolt I honestly didn’t think they went that low
Look if I've got every CD rolling and a stacked rampage you fucking bet I'm hitting a 0.5 second bolt 
grand mesa
I got hit with a 0.5 second stormbolt I honestly didn’t think they went that low
I told varugh he’s banned from any cc buttons in 2s stop fucking up my DRs I’ll do everything myself 😂
chrome panther
stray sigil
wintry jackal
they are never that bad
Bro they are
lime light
wintry jackal
Look if I've got every CD rolling and a stacked rampage you fucking bet I'm hitt...
It’s always the warriors
chrome panther
It’s always the warriors
u fucken betcha
idk how this drooler spec got buffed as much as it did
static steeple
does 4 piece work with lifebloom triggered by our early spring pvp talent? I've...
Haven't tried it yet. Would be insanely huge for bgblitz
winter pollen
Haven't tried it yet. Would be insanely huge for bgblitz
Testing on dummies and it looks like it works. That is huge for blitz.
static steeple
sweet! thanks for confirming
clear fox
@clear pulsar since they haters do yall play wildstalker or keeper in raid
tiny oar
<@102094910101913600> since they haters do yall play wildstalker or keeper in ra...
keeper
clear pulsar
KOTG in raid
WS just doesnt scale with target count well
I dont have numbers for the healing proc chance exactly but it behaves the same way. This is the expect proc increase from having Rip on more targets.
clear fox
So it’s a damage thing
Vs hps
In shuffle wildstalker just feels better
But hard to put numbers on it
And it sets mana on fire
clear pulsar
Wildstalker does a lot more healing in 5-man
It just doesnt scale up to healing 20 people
clear fox
Feels like that’s somewhat predicated with actually having 5 targets for wild growth and having higher efflo uptime than is typical for PvP ?
I mean it certainly feels better, but might just be the actually feeling like swiftmend does something
clear pulsar
Yeah implant is big
Do you have 4p?
I wonder what type of uptime you get on WG in pvp
With 4p only
No manual WG casts
static steeple
wildgrowth is usually 6% of my healing in arena (from 4set proc + treant)
dark ether
Could someone shoot me a feral pvp spec? the current one in the pins is out of date.
hardy quiver
hardy quiver
Could someone shoot me a feral pvp spec? the current one in the pins is out of d...
^ you can sort by spec and check the top 3 feral build then mix and match what you like
I don't play feral so I can't give a recommendation but that's how I find good specs for classes
dark ether
^ you can sort by spec and check the top 3 feral build then mix and match what y...
Thanks man! I’m a guardian main- but I’d really love to work out feral. Of the classes I’m comfortable with, it seems to be one of the most complex. It’s a bit daunting but I’m excited for it
nocturne nacelle
https://drustvar.com/
Is this better than that murloc website?
hardy quiver
kind of the same thing but the one I linked lets you pick and choose what you want to see from the top of the class
hallow acorn
Has anyone gotten a chance to try out 4 set for boomie?
random patrol
def go 4 set for chicken
hallow acorn
Yeah planning on doing it 🙂 just wanted to hear if any of the NA players have gotten a chance to play with it 🙂
livid wasp
disc frost mage warrior
how do you even beat that
you have warrior going on you
you cant really go cc the disc cause you have only one charge and you have to hit mage too
do you just go warrior idk
but then you let mage freecast
and its bad too
what do you do
and I play with a ww who can barely hit him
livid wasp
maybe you gotta position differently when killing a caster and ccing the healer idk
baiting the caster closer with pillar around their healer or something
bronze coyote
so whats pref comp for 3s for rdudu? or what type of classes you guys prefer?
can prob make a lot work but ive mostly been solo queueing
sinful wraith
yoo, what is the hero talent tree we spec into for resto pvp these days?
clear fox
yoo, what is the hero talent tree we spec into for resto pvp these days?
generally people are running keeper, but I feel both are viable. But keeper is certainly less mana intensive and easier to run
high tundra
do we press efflorescence
hallow acorn
do we press efflorescence
Not the best global but if full melee zug zug lobby might as well throw one in there if everyone is fully hotted and no cc opportunity
static steeple
do we press efflorescence
during innervate and sometimes smokebomb (new tranq cranks on it's own)
there's also an old build with disentanglement + verdancy + spring blossoms if you're running double immobile caster (shadowplay)
but only luxia plays that
high tundra
i see
thank you both :)
what should i be focusing on to main rdruid in arenas?
i play it in pve but obviously there are differences
and are mmarkers guides good or is his playstyle not the norm
stray sigil
you cant really go cc the disc cause you have only one charge and you have to hi...
my brother
this patch u cannot kill mages
bleak zinc
as feral do we get 4 piece or 2 piece
static steeple
and are mmarkers guides good or is his playstyle not the norm
he's playsytle is not the norm, need to be kinda cracked at druid to play it
static steeple
what should i be focusing on to main rdruid in arenas?
if you're coming from pve, the biggest challenge is probably looking for the right times to cc and positioning
high tundra
I see
static steeple
flop has really good content for this
even if it's old, the general arena stuff is still relevant
high tundra
alright
do healers in pvp only press their healing buttons
or am i gonna be trying to catweave/cast spells at all
static steeple
no catweaving, cept maybe in 2s
but in 3s ur spamming starsurge for a mini flourish proc (pvp talent)
high tundra
ah okies
static steeple
gotta go bearform when you know you're being switched to. pop travel form to avoid rep/polymorph
getting out of combat to stealth in catform and drink
stuff like that
watching nogard and dannycarry is super helpful since they ONLY play rdruid
high tundra
do they stream or is there a youtube i can watch
static steeple
and unlike m+ you're actually mashing rejuv a lot
yeah they stream, one sec
i think nogard is subs for past boardcasts but danny isnt
static steeple
it's bugged?
static steeple
hmm, i was definitely taking damage in that form earlier today
high tundra
mustve been hotfixed or something
static steeple
yeah
high tundra
it was bugged for a bit at the start of the season
static steeple
typical blizzard
high tundra
is bear form a good defensive as is or should it be paired with barkskin
static steeple
bearform is good as is, especially with the talents
i take ursine vigor vs double melee that can easily switch to me (DH/DK/Monk)
but definitely barkskin no matter what if they pop cooldowns
high tundra
aight
static steeple
if a rogue looks your way, insta bearform
high tundra
i was pretty low rated last season i peaked 1800 in shuffle as feral and rdruids would just drop all 3 treants instantly is that optimal or a waste
static steeple
sometimes they need it lol, rdruid was so bad last season
high tundra
i see
static steeple
they were probably scared of incarn and wanted max healing buff from harmony of the grove
ive def been there
idk how good rdruid is rn, i like new tree and 4set but disc is insane
i think with the right comp it's fine
high tundra
i see
high tundra
what is the right comp
high tundra
i have a friend who will only play warrior
static steeple
hmm
high tundra
something like shadowplay (aff/sp)
not looking good..
static steeple
warrior mage is good
high tundra
what makes certain comps good or bad?
static steeple
not looking good..
and u can play basic double melee like war/monk, war/ret, war/dk
stray sigil
can prob rmd wwmd
but ur kind of a dampener
as a rdru
double melee def not a thing this ssn
high tundra
ive only played shuffle
static steeple
double melee def not a thing this ssn
idk, monk kinda cheese rn
static steeple
ah, i actually havent ran into jungle or rogue mage yet
static steeple
what spec are mages playing?
high tundra
what is jungle
static steeple
jungle is feral/hunter
high tundra
ahh
stray sigil
frost too but much less so
high tundra
what does wmd mean
static steeple
war mage druid
high tundra
oh that makes sense
static steeple
def find an arcane mage
stray sigil
u can do frost mage wmd
high tundra
i keep seeing comp names and getting so lost
stray sigil
and perma play for drinks
static steeple
with clone and polymorph, u can set up pretty cringe 1v3s
high tundra
how do uou get chance to drink in an arena
i feel like everyone is attacking everything at once
static steeple
you put on hots, you right click treants to disable, get out of combat behind pillar
go cat form, drink, then stealth
high tundra
ah
static steeple
@high tundra as a healer, u have to always be the hardest target to reach
we have 2 talents that buff cyclone range
static steeple
also definitely get used to cyclone people who pop cds or cloning people when they are low health to avoid getting a burst heal
then switching the clone to healer
high tundra
dampen meaning?
stray sigil
dampen meaning?
just means u make the game go late
static steeple
druid loves dampening
stray sigil
extend the game
static steeple
@stray sigil how's feral/sp rn?
high tundra
should i just hug pillars?
high tundra
neobsjpdv okay
static steeple
LOL
stray sigil
feral sp also good
high tundra
what do i do if theyre spamming cc on me
high tundra
i feel like a warrior lands on you and you get stunned 50 timed before you can leave and then they trap you with the spear after that
static steeple
if ur in spear, just NS into ancient lore
high tundra
is travel form good for movement or just breaking roots
high tundra
i do
high tundra
snkvdjpvdoh
yeah
i managed to convince my friends to get into pvp but forgot they both play dps
and they are used to me playing healer in pve
static steeple
gotcha
ull be fine with war mage druid
i feel like war sp should work
havent touched that since SL
high tundra
is it always war + caster
static steeple
if it's not a double melee meta, yeah
stray sigil
is it always war + caster
war/melee is kinda shit outside of like ret war when its good
and mayb turbo
high tundra
why is double melee bad?
high tundra
ahh
stray sigil
u run at 1 guy
high tundra
yeah
static steeple
if they are focusing one target
put one on yourself
but with 4set, i honestly leave both on dps mostly
procs so many freakin hots
high tundra
i have 0 set rn #noob
static steeple
oh god
high tundra
i havent touched pvp yet this season
static steeple
rdruid is like, not even a class until 4 set i feel
high tundra
damn
high tundra
i knew insurance was good
stray sigil
once u get 4p
high tundra
i see
static steeple
4set ur def gaming
high tundra
whats the quickest way to 4ser
set
am i doomed bc i used my catalyst charges in pve
high tundra
you can do that?
stray sigil
well u have 3 charges rn
static steeple
u can add pvp ilvl to pve gear now
high tundra
oh
static steeple
check the conquest vendor
stray sigil
and u have 4p
high tundra
is it the same price as buying conquest gear?
stray sigil
is it the same price as buying conquest gear?
yes
high tundra
i see
wanton ridge
conquest prices always end up the same no matter what you do for a specific slot
high tundra
whats the conquest cap rn?
static steeple
2600 i think
high tundra
chill
static steeple
so u can get weapon
high tundra
do you still get a free weapon
high tundra
do we craft any slots
static steeple
i started late and had high mmr. going full greens rdruid vs 4p gamers was not fun
static steeple
dont take chest
stray sigil
and eventually prob all off pieces
static steeple
but if u get chest dropped, use it
high tundra
i have enough honor to get full honor gear
static steeple
just for 4set
high tundra
is the war mode stuff good too?
static steeple
yeah get full honor
war mode is very good
can be turned to tier too
certain conquest pieces dont give mastery (wrist, belt) so u can get warmode instead for now
also warmode back with giga mastery is bis
static steeple
yeah
high tundra
alright
static steeple
the 3 ilvl diff is nothing
high tundra
the only tier i have rn is head
stray sigil
is it worth turning war mode gear to tier?
only way i think to get it i think this week
is with wm gear and a pve piece
unless ur full pve
high tundra
aight
static steeple
i think head and legs are best
as for embellishments, i have no idea what's good
ppl use the 2% health one, vers over 80%, ascendance, etc
some ppl use the vers weapon one
stray sigil
its fine when ur in the tree
high tundra
overhealing should be converted by 100% into cleave damage like nature's vigil thoughts
static steeple
yeah druid would get banned lol
high tundra
sjdhoihepveohce
static steeple
honestly the biggest thing for this season is remembering to starsurge to proc forest guardian
im forgeting all the time
it works really good with bloom procs so try to make sure LB is never falling off
high tundra
im used to juggling around LBs
pvp healing seems fun
i dont have to worry about optimising catform uptime and rotations
i can just heal
static steeple
i feel that, just be ready push for clones since damage is kinda insane rn. full hots is meh
high tundra
aight
do comps always matter
or is it something thats only relevant above a certain point
static steeple
depends how crazy to meta is
rn it's hard to tell cause not everyone has 4set
plus u can make something now, awc happens, then it's nerfed lol
getting high rating on rdruid last season required a master's degree
clear fox
faaaace dumb question times again
@clear pulsar why is regenesis so piss
if youre stacking 12 rejuv
to shotgun abundance fueled regrowths
clear fox
certain conquest pieces dont give mastery (wrist, belt) so u can get warmode ins...
just craft every piece thats trash stats
clear pulsar
Idk cuz the devs are goofy
Talent just does nothing
Linear increase, you never reach max benefit
And healing people from 70 to 90% is as valuable as healing them from 20 to 40%
There's no reason to think healing at low HP is particularly valuable most of the time
clear fox
I wish
clear pulsar
WS is not impressive but it synergizes with Photosynthesis