pvp

[high tundra]

mo

no

[fringe mulch]

besides stealth

[high tundra]

generally yes but you can keep rip on your bars to drop on the healer for example

[clear pulsar]

No, you still press Rip in single target situations and it's Rake that has a stealth component

[fringe mulch]

the most played build in bg blitz has you take so many abilities it feels insane

[clear pulsar]

PW Rip is half duration so it's not ideal, the direct damage is minimal

You can prob drop Swarm pretty safely if you think it's too much

[fringe mulch]

feral build should just be a big bite brain dead class, i have like 8 aoes abilities

also ty f and sorry for crash out

[clear pulsar]

Feral is (and is supposed to be) a lot more like assa rogue minus garrotes

Than like sub rogue

Idk tho when I log on rogue I feel like I have to bind more spells more comfortably than feral

At least on sub

I didnt rly tank that much ig

I had one 0-6 that went -57 and the -150 from afking out, the other 41 was lost before lag

Log in keys @grand mesa

Not lagging

[grand mesa]

I’m working

[stray sigil]

sayu wallahi

[clear pulsar]

[stray sigil]

only got 1 key done last week

my brudder will save me this week

[clear pulsar]

[stray sigil]

[stray sigil]

real

not even 2/3 vault

useless

[chrome panther]

week 21 0 keys done

[stray sigil]

we need keys

[wintry jackal]

So cute

I have 2 voids

[stray sigil]

i have 3 voids

and 1 old sassy bih

thats like 14

siamese or w.e

[late wraith]

I only have 1 void, a beige baby and a grey angry old man

and a dog

[grand mesa]

My kid wants a cat

[late wraith]

so get her one

pretty straight forward

[grand mesa]

I’m allergic

I hate cats

Evil creatures

Dogs are better

[late wraith]

ew

imagine not liking cats

[clear pulsar]

@grand mesa have you seen anyone doing leveling boosts recently?

I might be wanting to level boost a rogue

[grand mesa]

Ywah

Wait

Rogue?

[clear pulsar]

Or maybe monk, actually prob monk

[grand mesa]

[clear pulsar]

Next season set is too sick

[grand mesa]

oh yeah the goku mog

[clear pulsar]

Maybe both

[grand mesa]

I’m gonna need you to walk me thru the best way to get every tiny

Tint

[clear pulsar]

Rogue would prob need to be a pvp only toon, cba being pure dps in pve anymore

[grand mesa]

Maybe I even have 2 monks for more cata charges

oh ur gonna be a war crime MW in keys

[clear pulsar]

You dont rly need a lot of cata charges if you dont care for getting the tints immediately

Cuz you just save the items in bank for after season

You just need to do a lot of delves ig

[grand mesa]

Yeah I just need to be organized and iand methodical with a sheet about which slots I have and don’t have at certain tracks

I heckling love delves

[clear pulsar]

But farming the items is gonna take the same amount of time whether you do it on 1 or 2 toons

[grand mesa]

I’ll just do infinite delves ig

[clear pulsar]

I have a bunch of items on my hunter's bank

[grand mesa]

I need to level bean to the new level cap anyway

[clear pulsar]

Delves can get you all normal and LFR colors, you can use pvp war mode gear for the heroic color and save all the PVE gear at myth or 6/6 hero for after season too

That's what I got going rn

[grand mesa]

How do crests work after season

Which is what I’m assuming you’re saving for

To upgrade

[clear pulsar]

No you dont upgrade after season

[stray sigil]

face is such a wannabe fuji

real ?

[clear pulsar]

You need the right ilvls for each color if you're doing after season

[stray sigil]

@late wraith

@grand mesa

so real

[chrome panther]

Converted to gold iirc

[late wraith]

u wish bb

this guy INVENTED necroferal

like actually invented it i saw the receipts

[stray sigil]

he went necro

for the weaponn appearance

U GOT GASLIGHTED

[clear pulsar]

The weapons were all fugly wdym

[late wraith]

it doesn't matter how he got there

he got there

[grand mesa]

And masterful instincts tbh

Per discord receipts

[late wraith]

all i know

is the timestamp shows

[clear pulsar]

You think I'd gimp my build to something I didnt believe in for THIS shit?

[late wraith]

that face invented necroferal and fuji was like "bitch u WOT"

[stray sigil]

EAT MY ASS AND CALL ME SALLY

[clear pulsar]

You're crazy

[stray sigil]

DUMB PIG

U CANNOT CLAIM TO AHVE CREATED THE META

I DID

[late wraith]

lol HUH?

this is a fuckin DAD thing to type

[clear pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/monsters-inc-boo-la-la-la-playing-play-gif-4753114

[late wraith]

fuji has left almost old territory and has entered his dad era

holy shit we watched it happen live

[stray sigil]

PIG FUCK

doesnt matter what u plebians say

the goat said i was the creator

all that matters

can face say the same

@clear pulsar can you lidle pig

[late wraith]

it's true

if axtin says it it's default true

i'm sorry face

[stray sigil]

@clear pulsar

[clear pulsar]

[grand mesa]

Ping axtin and ask

The vod could be out of context

Clever edits

[stray sigil]

nop i am not pinging marv

[grand mesa]

Or ai

[stray sigil]

he needs tro be left alone

[grand mesa]

We can’t be sure in 2025

[late wraith]

pinging him is cringe

and embarrassing

[stray sigil]

no thats only ur sentiment

old witch

marv scares you

imagine a golden retriever scaring you

[late wraith]

🥺

[lilac coral]

how does feral druid do against a ret in a duel rn

[livid wasp]

why cant they remove ret from the game

so fucking broken

[stray sigil]

[chrome panther]

probably bad but duels aren't real

[random patrol]

you hide behind los them with bleeds on them

bleed and run also duels don't count cause 0 damp

[livid wasp]

so fucking annoying

wish this game was easier

aaaaaaaaaaaaa

[soft egret]

?????????

[grand mesa]

I said what I said

[chrome panther]

[tiny oar]

I love cats

[vestal citrus]

i come in this chat see lake type and leave

what a horrible experience for me

[tiny oar]

i come in this chat see glyph type and leave
what a horrible experience for me

[vestal citrus]

i am saying

i see u type then nothing else

just saying i wish u were here more

blessing the chat with ur presence yk

[tiny oar]

AWWWWWWWWWWWW

SO SWEET

i will be here more next season inshallah

[chrome panther]

rdruid supremacy surely

[grand mesa]

cyoncord splay

@chrome panther

i'll be the S

[chrome panther]

i cant wait to play bgb rdru with ancient of lore and get instantly focused by the entire team

[grand mesa]

i think splay might be nasty with the tier ngl

have u seen affs and spriests?

[chrome panther]

perma PI is disgusting

spriest ye

idk affs

can you spellsteal/dispel the insurance procced PI tho

[chrome panther]

i hate it

[grand mesa]

[tiny oar]

ok bro OK

SPLAY IS LIT MY TIME TO SHINE

[stray sigil]

[tiny oar]

why are u sussing me

[stray sigil]

rdru splay

[tiny oar]

yea whatever bro

[stray sigil]

ud rather play rdru splay

than rdru ww with ur boy

i see

ill remember this lake

i wont forget

and never forgive

[tiny oar]

WDYM

IM ON 2 DAYS A WEEK LOL

[stray sigil]

its too late to apologize

[tiny oar]

ill play whatever is good and play w my homies

[stray sigil]

ok i see

i wont bother you anymore

[late wraith]

lake plays with leavemebeav over fujiww

[stray sigil]

[grand mesa]

[wintry jackal]

Rdruid spriest feral is good

[stray sigil]

[wintry jackal]

We just ran it on my feral alt and went like 14 - 3 in placements

I think it’s a sign Fuji

To come back to feral Druid

[tiny oar]

i will have alts ready for next queue sesh!!

[tiny oar]

ASK ME TO PLAY AND WE WILL MFER

[stray sigil]

[stray sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/joaquin-phoenix-gladiator-denied-unimpressed-thumbs-down-gif-5725261

[late wraith]

Look how cute the timewalking bee is

lake go get your timewalking bee

[stray sigil]

[late wraith]

fuji go get your timewalking bee

[vestal citrus]

pull the stinger out

[chrome panther]

if you didnt start 2 weeks ago ur fuked

[late wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/ancklebiter-hedgehog-hedgehog-mad-angy-bite-gif-5074789369979765001

[stray sigil]

[fringe mulch]

So for BG blitz no one goes the ST build? its always AoE?

[stray sigil]

theres no aoe or st build anymore

most builds just take pw anywyas

[clear pulsar]

Yeah it's just 1 or 2 talent points from 1.5-2% passives to PW, maybe rake cleave

[tiny oar]

I missed last weeks buff so think I cant get it for a while :(

[random patrol]

now bad for a passive racial I mean shadowmeld way better though

[clear pulsar]

Yooooo zandalari op?

[fringe mulch]

ok guys im learning feral

this might be cooler than rogue after all :3

[random patrol]

@clear pulsar for a passive that's super good the on use still finicky though if you can get it off is nice

only breaks on direct dam now

[random patrol]

wellfare duelist done weeeeeeeeeeee

playing this shit kid build

last lobby was double rogue and a mage

"fun tm"

[tiny oar]

HELL YEA let's go voodoo

[random patrol]

34 haste 25 vers worked well

would keep pushing but frankly I didn't even want to play atm

just got it done with to get it done

now on break until next season then just gear in casual until 2-3 months in like this season

works better that way

dat or level a 7th druid

I have the boost

[fringe mulch]

feral is fun but not using shred feels so weird

[random patrol]

one thing I will say is despite the strong passive heal racial I don't think zandalari was as good as I wish it would of been

might run troll or hm next season we shall see

[late wraith]

grats voodoo!!!

[random patrol]

still tempted to try for elite maybe next season Idk Im getting to old for this

want to do some real arena(3s) next season this season was lit just spam the solo

[stray sigil]

do it now pig

[late wraith]

just try for it this season you have 2 weeks

[stray sigil]

u have 2 weeks if u donr get it w.e

[late wraith]

yeah just do your best

[stray sigil]

just q to q

[late wraith]

do it for me, your fellow old boomy

[stray sigil]

if it happens it happens

[random patrol]

Ill see what I feel like tomorrow

Im done for the night though

[late wraith]

niceeeee

fair

[stray sigil]

beavs is not just old

shes ancient

[random patrol]

I get more body parts replaced this year

should be fun

[late wraith]

oofa

[stray sigil]

beavs had knees replacement

[late wraith]

no i didn't stop lying

[random patrol]

knee replacement for me soon

[stray sigil]

back soon

eyes soon

[late wraith]

i already had lazik

[stray sigil]

teeth about to fall off

[late wraith]

i have lazer eyes

[random patrol]

Im already blind in one eye ty

[stray sigil]

shes gonna be all gum

soon tm

[random patrol]

still have functional teeth though

somehow I have all my og teeth at 54 almost 55

[tiny oar]

god i wish i had that my vision is SO BAD lol

[stray sigil]

dont get it

[tiny oar]

it seems scary tho idk

[stray sigil]

i have lazik

[late wraith]

it's so easy

what?

it's good!

[stray sigil]

i had to get a redo last year

and i need another one soon

its not pig

pog

[late wraith]

so i asked about that

and i think that's just you

because mine is fine and doesn't need a redo

[random patrol]

I got a piece of glass in my eye so surgery only do so much

[late wraith]

and i had it done in 2015 so 10 years ago now

[stray sigil]

i did my original one

[tiny oar]

LASIK SKILL DIFFED

[stray sigil]

at like

17

[random patrol]

10/10 rec

[late wraith]

okay well

dujde

[stray sigil]

second at 24

[late wraith]

your eyes weren't done growin

[stray sigil]

or something

and i can tell its a bit blurry

[late wraith]

i was in my 20s already

[stray sigil]

all this gaming

is rucking my lazik

ong

[late wraith]

staring at screen all day is not good for eyes that's true

[random patrol]

the starsurge build I posted worked way better then my starfall but Im stubborn as f

[late wraith]

voodoo

rudar posted a build you'd love lol

let me grab it for you

[tiny oar]

[random patrol]

just rem kids do drugs

you get higher arena that way

[late wraith]

he calls it the anti train boomy build

cause of starfire procs

[random patrol]

Ill test it

[late wraith]

here's his damage breakdown st

[random patrol]

these days Ive been facetanking shit

mind you face tanking is actually good in twos not 3s so much

[late wraith]

honestly i think kiting low key not it into a lot of these comps, we gotta just fake in their faces sometimes lol

like you can't really kite a ret or a ww, fury you're better off cloning or dragging behind pillars

can't kite a bm

can't kite dks

[random patrol]

Im kind of sad how mediocore zandalari was

like its not bad

but def 4th best

[tiny oar]

I become nonfunctional at arena when high beavs can attest

[random patrol]

or 5th

@tiny oar I play better

[late wraith]

false

you BECOME the druid

and me and mayo are your pets

[tiny oar]

I AM THE RESTO DRUID

[tiny oar]

LOLL

[random patrol]

Shadowmeld S tier, Tauren B tier, Canadians and Dad Bod C tier

[late wraith]

that was so fucking funny

[random patrol]

Zandalari C- tier

[late wraith]

i wish kultiran were better for arena because the moonkin form is bis

like a weird straw witch thing

[tiny oar]

reg troll is so druid vibes

[random patrol]

mind you that's way better then before for zan trolls

[tiny oar]

TRUE and the cat form

[random patrol]

as for worgens Idk and troll I would play if the racial still lined up with incarn

[late wraith]

@random patrol don't forget to go buy your weapon looks they're nice

[random patrol]

@late wraith I will though Ive been only using sycthe of elune or however it's spelled since legion

[late wraith]

fair enough

but these are like cool icy looking things

and you can get all of them

[random patrol]

well yeah get them for plebians(non druid classes)

[late wraith]

truuuu

[stray sigil]

[random patrol]

Ill prob race change back to tauren later

I like mooing a lot

I hate shadowmelds to much to reroll to them

would play a shadowmeld druid if I was in a tourney of course

or playing for rank one I guess

let me get duelist on second druid before I try elite push

lit just need to 3-3 or better next lobby on it 2100 done

[tiny oar]

EASY

ur such a gamer voodoo cant imagine gearing 5 fucking druids lol I just finished gearing my first one

[random patrol]

doing 8 next season

[tiny oar]

[random patrol]

secret is waiting until week 10 plus to play the other 7

[wintry jackal]

I just finished leveling my 2nd feral

It’s actually so worth

[past fossil]

trying to do solo shuffle as dps is torment. these queues are terrible

[random patrol]

I watch scooby-doo or garfield while qing and usually either do horrible ah things or fish

[wintry jackal]

I will walk away and do irl chores

With speaker on loud

Or yeah futurama or something

Farm mounts

[livid wasp]

double mage lobby

so aids

why do they have alter time and iceblock

[stray sigil]

just 2 more weeks my boy

and alter is bearable

[past fossil]

Climbing in shuffle after 1600 so hard ;-;

im just so bad at pvp haha

[stray sigil]

just need the reps

ull get there

[livid wasp]

I just wanna kil myself

[stray sigil]

dont do it zechey

[livid wasp]

double mage who just wont die

I cant clone anything constant kicks

[livid wasp]

pvp is too tough

im jealous of pvers

who somehow get dopamine from it

[finite bay]

How did this build work out? I love the Starfire procs, but the missing damage from treants and Dream surge…. Anybody try it?

[late wraith]

i haven't tried it myself but are you in his disc?

if not i can send you a link

[late wraith]

zechey we give you shit but don't say this

[livid wasp]

2-4 3-3 3-3

impossible to climb

feral feels like shit

[late wraith]

yeah but zechey that's fine. 3-3 is fine. like you're super high mmr at this point right?

climbing gets harder because you're up there and you're good! playing with other good players. like this is normal.

[livid wasp]

no

im like 174 shuffle rank feral

its pathetic

barely above 2.4

one bad loss and im below legend range

[clear pulsar]

You cant help zechey with perspective

[random patrol]

it's a build for double melee rounds were your trained

[grand mesa]

@chrome panther

is this for real

[chrome panther]

yes @grand mesa

enjoy 100-0 demolish

[stray sigil]

warrior dev krek doer

[tiny oar]

warrior dev krek doer

[random patrol]

lake rerolling to pink orc warrior

[fringe mulch]

resto seems weak in bgs currently, arent they normally insane for bgs

[clear pulsar]

Nothing is immune to tuning

Resto is weak in all of pvp rn

[stray sigil]

never been insane in rbgs/bgs

the way u heal kinda not it for rbgs in general

[tiny oar]

is that a thing

[stray sigil]

ur a pink rdru

(pig)

[tiny oar]

sick of ur slander

[stray sigil]

[tiny oar]

pipe down sinful loser

[stray sigil]

[tiny oar]

[past fossil]

anyone got any tips for feral solo shuffle, i feel like im stuck at around 1600-1700. i have to fight for 3 wins and that just keeps me in the same spot. feels really hard to climb

[random patrol]

that moment when you have the enemy healer with no trinket and you have full moon build in incarn and the fucking resto druid clones your full moon

anyway

f restodruids that clone my damage

[fringe mulch]

is 11.1 keeping the brutal slash style of spender

oh wow nvm its been this way for like 4 years lol

[clear pulsar]

#pvp message
There was a conversation the other day that seemed to help homeboy. Read from here. Supreme savior is giving tips.

[random patrol]

@tiny oar orc in magical girl outfit what else

best kind of warrior

[tiny oar]

dude ur kinda cooking w this maybe I go orc

[clear pulsar]

Fem orc is so good

Only gripe I have with it for mogs is the face is tilted forward a bit

So like the orc masks from WOD look weird, shifted like this \O

[livid wasp]

https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/1131235-keen-eyed-cian.jpg

this blud never spawns

[ivory basin]

Im looking for, but cant find a flight form macro i can spam to get into flight form as soon as i get out of combat, but also not accidentally leave it again. something like a [nocombat] macro, that only cast travel form out of combat but does not cancel it again if pressed twice. But this one doesnt work: #showtooltip /cast [nocombat]!Travel form

[ivory basin]

Keen eyed cian? Ive consistently seen him between 1 and 2 hour spawn timers, in war mode (almost no one there with WM on)

[clear pulsar]

Do [nocombat,noform:#]

Idk what form number travel form is, look at the stance bar and count from left

[tropic schooner]

the ! before the spell should stop you from swapping out

I think if you spam too much and queue the spell up it still sometimes can cancel

[ivory basin]

This one worked perfectly 😄

/cast [nocombat,noform:3]!Travel form```

Thanks for the help this discord is so helpful and nice^^

[high tundra]

hey thats me

[past fossil]

Seeing that post get referenced again it reminded me. Idk if it’s just me but I feel like when I go bear to mitigate damage I feel so damn squishy. Like if I’m on a balance and he goes bear he feels tanky as shit but if I go bear even with any cooldowns running I still take fuck tons of damage

[wintry jackal]

Can you share your talents

Are you hitting frenzied regen?

Also sitting bear while they have cds isn’t gonna be enough without skin / a healer cd sometimes

Just the reality of damage

Also try and root / kite

[past fossil]

At work can’t share talents atm

But maybe doing more roots would be good. I don’t really play feral especially in pvp, just trying to get 1800 for armor and feral has so many keys it’s hard for me to keybind everything where I can use it

[wintry jackal]

You should be able to hit 1800 fairly easily with just damage burst and stuns

I can help with binds and stuff. Do you have s arena or gladius for DR tracking?

[past fossil]

No

I was reading a guide last night in bed and they were saying that you should try to maintain your bleeds on as many people as you can, is that accurate in solo shuffle? Cause I definitely haven’t been doing that I’ve just been trying to burst one person down. They also said not to shred unless it’s for blood talons and I’ve been spamming a lot of shred

[fringe mulch]

So unless we get BT proc it’s better to just wait for slash then ever use shred?

Also without lunar inspiration and swarm, is a big dps loss

[past fossil]

Idk how valid that guide is

[fringe mulch]

I kinda wanna make a brainlet build without lunar inspo or swarm but dont want to lose huge dps

[past fossil]

I’d love a brainlet build that worked. Feral in pvp has too many buttons for me especially with all the movement involved for me to keep up well

[wintry jackal]

You guys could just go lions strength

[late wraith]

This is going to sound troll but I’m serious: go fury warrior

[fringe mulch]

@wintry jackal if i go lions strength, never shred?

[late wraith]

You chose a complicated melee that’s hard to pick up

[wintry jackal]

I wish I could answer the bleed question but tbh sometimes bleeding everyone is a bad use of resources

I wouldn’t say never shred

Yeah feral has a steep learning curve and it takes a lot of reps

[late wraith]

They always have lots of buttons but more than that, fury is just stick to a guy and do the most rn. Feral has much more to it than that

[wintry jackal]

Sometimes it is cleave and triple kill

But it’s situational

[late wraith]

If you pick something easier you can learn the overall basics of arena so when you come back to feral it’s not so overwhelming. But there’s not going to be a build that lets you brain off feral

[past fossil]

Well, it’s not that I want to play feral. I’m a guardian main. I just really wanted the Druid elite color 😦

[late wraith]

Ah yeah

I remember sorry

[fringe mulch]

@past fossil play blitz

[past fossil]

But yeah fury was a lot easier, at least back when I did it in BFA

[fringe mulch]

make an easier mode feral build, dont take swarm or lunar inso

treat it like youre a fury warrior and aoe fights

[late wraith]

boomy I think is easier than feral but I’m biased cause I play boomy lol

[fringe mulch]

i did it on balance, it was harder because you have to learn casting / kiting if youre new

[late wraith]

I legit think feral is up there as one of the harder specs to learn and especially if you’re relatively new to arena. The wall to start is massive

[past fossil]

I tried blitz first, it went well up until 1600 and then I felt super hard stuck. I just felt so much worse than other tanks

And everyone flamed me for playing tank in blitz lol

Bdk made me hardcore rage when I tried to fc

[late wraith]

It’s like the only place you can play tank in pvp what are they on about

[past fossil]

I guess just dk in general

[clear pulsar]

Shred is just the lowest prio filler. It's not never shred tho. But prio brutal slash over it, and prio keeping up Rake and Moonfire over that.

Beavs I'm stuck in this one

[past fossil]

Maybe they were flaming me for playing guardian idk. But I did feel a lot more inconsequential compared to other tanks especially dk

[fringe mulch]

do you know if dropping swarm / lunar inspo would be a huge dps hit

just to simplify rotation

[stray sigil]

def do not drop swam

moonfire isnt huge dps its qol

cuz its a ranged generator

also would not drop it

[late wraith]

You are the smartest guy I know take a break from it, eat a snack and come back you got this

[late wraith]

I would not let this get to you. People who flame in low rated shuffles are generally the worst ones in the lobby

People who flame in high rated shuffles need therapy. We just ignore those

[clear pulsar]

LI is legendary

[late wraith]

Lots of high ranked guardian Druids in blitz

[clear pulsar]

@velvet quest tagging the best WW I know cuz I have a newly 80 monk that I will be asking for coaching on

[stray sigil]

[late wraith]

[clear pulsar]

[late wraith]

It’s true

[stray sigil]

this feels oddly targetted

[late wraith]

[stray sigil]

iuts ok ill remember this

when face asks me quesitons

[clear pulsar]

[stray sigil]

[late wraith]

:pepecrywitasscheeksout:

[stray sigil]

get fcukd

[late wraith]

@past fossil I feel bad cause I told you to try feral and it’s no good so now @stray sigil needs to cook you a build that can get you to 1800 on feral with less buttons

this is your job now little clown

Prove you invented necroferal by inventing less buttons feral

[stray sigil]

[high tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/warcraft-3-ghoul-gif-10740449168943975357

[late wraith]

If you can invent necroferal you can invent a less buttons 1800 feral like it should be EASY

[stray sigil]

there

its complete dogshit

and would never play that

but this way u save

what 4 buttons

[late wraith]

But could he get 1800 with it?

[stray sigil]

no pw no moonfire no brs no swarm

brother 1800 is like 150 cr below starting mmr

[late wraith]

not when you’re full new it isn’t but we send

[stray sigil]

pretty sure first lobby will be like 1800+

now if he loses it sure he goes down

[late wraith]

He did his first lobbies

[stray sigil]

well listen

u asked for a build with 0 abilities

u get what u ask for

i will make it even more cursed

even less abilities

removed ff and apex proc

[clear pulsar]

I goofed it up, went wrong somewhere near the end but not near enough to wanna go back and figure it all out again

It's joever

[stray sigil]

what do u think of the build face

@clear pulsar

the 500 dps feral build

the face2face

[clear pulsar]

Remove berserk

[stray sigil]

cant

cuz u cant progress

u would have to take brs or moonfire anyways

so u get the same amount of abilities

[clear pulsar]

FACK not enough points, need at least 1 active spell now

Oh yeah I took LI without noticinv

Cuz it's so goated

[stray sigil]

and u took brs

and bt

not good

and u took apex

also procs

[clear pulsar]

Can replace brs with the swipe thing

[stray sigil]

= more abilities

[past fossil]

It’s not that it’s no good, I’m just not very good

[clear pulsar]

I'm not gonna lie to you

[past fossil]

I’m a pve wow player, I love PvP, but wow PvP has never clicked for me

[clear pulsar]

I dont see how feral has a ton of buttons

None of my alts have fewer buttons

[stray sigil]

feral is pretty low apm i think

[clear pulsar]

Hell, boomie doesnt have fewer buttons

[stray sigil]

its just different

[past fossil]

Ya for the most part I do agree, it’s not an absurd amount, but the amount it has coupled with everything else going on in pvp is a little overwhelming for me

In pve feral isn’t bad at all, but there’s also less buttons you’d use in pve anyways…

[grand mesa]

I think with 2 weeks to go

[stray sigil]

yeah its not the dmg buttons

[grand mesa]

Blitz is pain

[stray sigil]

its dmg buttons + the like control u need to do

[grand mesa]

The CR gain sucks

[stray sigil]

i would just do shuffles yeah

[grand mesa]

And u could be stuck in ELO hell

[stray sigil]

specially if ur kinda stuck alrady in bgb

[grand mesa]

Which feels p real and not cope

[stray sigil]

like dont take it as flame

but if ur like

50% wr ish rn in bgb

and ur not super close to 1800

prob not doing it with q times and shit

in 2 weeks

[grand mesa]

I have a priest at like 2600mmr cause the first games went well and a priest at like 1600 MMR cause the first few games went to shit

[stray sigil]

might aswell send shuffle and do it that way

u get practice in aswell

[grand mesa]

It’s a lot of games to fix lol. And even then it’s +20 CR a win max

[stray sigil]

depends how much cr u lose on a loss i suppose

[past fossil]

Yeah nah I get you. I’m bad at PvP to begin with; if I don’t get it I won’t be super upset but I’ll be a little sad

[stray sigil]

but if u like go 1-1 and get 0 cr

seems fucked a bit

[past fossil]

I also put it off way too late anyways

[grand mesa]

FWIW once u get it down

You can collect elite set every season

In shuffle

Np

[stray sigil]

lowkey should find a nice soul

to play 2s with

will help u understand the game

better than jumping into shuffle or 3s

imo

game is slowed down a lot in 2s

[grand mesa]

since it’s not Fuji if you’re NA I’ll gladly send some 2s with you

[stray sigil]

but yeah i do recommend 2s for newer ppl

[grand mesa]

[stray sigil]

helps u learn drs and shit a lot more

than jumping into shuffle chaos

when u dont know much

i still do 2s to improve on specs i dont know how to play to this day

just to get into rythm

its also way easier to tell where everything went wrong in 2s

[past fossil]

Haha I appreciate it. The toughest part about shuffle it feels like is that if you want to get any rating you need to get at least 4 wins.

I can typically at least get 3 but that’s me fighting to stay at the same spot

[stray sigil]

yeah 3-3 if u play at ur mmr is either 0 or -

[clear pulsar]

It just depends on your rating vs your mmr

Starting mmr is above 1.8k so you can hit 1.8 going 3-3 every lobby in theory

[stray sigil]

i just said trhat U PIG

[clear pulsar]

But you lost games and now your numbers are matched so you have to win to win yepyep

You dont win if you tie

[grand mesa]

I think best approach is identifying who’s the lobby’s victim destined for a 0-6 and winning 1 with them

[stray sigil]

i dont think people at like 1600 are good enough to identify that

no flame

like at 1600 a lock could 6-0 a triple warrior lobby randomly

[grand mesa]

it’s probably because they’re the victim

[stray sigil]

where that would never happen higher up

[past fossil]

Low key I feel like I’m that person in some matches LOL

sometimes I feel like I do z dps, or I melt someone

It’s never in between

[stray sigil]

i mean at that mmr nobody presses buttons correctly

dmg wise or defensive wise

so u cant rly identify anything

[grand mesa]

Healer diffs

[clear pulsar]

And sometimes they do

So you think X is the victim

Then next round X globals you out of sheer random luck

[past fossil]

Like last night I was definitely the victim, especially if these 2 warriors were on the same team lmao

[late wraith]

yeah that's kinda why i suggested war lol

you can have

nothing but air between your ears

and still climb on a fury warrior

[stray sigil]

or b oomy

[clear pulsar]

[late wraith]

don't listen to fuji he's being stupid on purpose

[past fossil]

But from listening in today it definitely seems like I was doing some things wrong. Like I wasn’t using moonfire, I was using a lot of shred. I’m still not sure if I should be cleaving bleeds on everyone or if I should focus on one target?

Tbh if I was playing boomy I swear id be useless, I wouldn’t have any idea how to play the game if I have everyone focusing me

[grand mesa]

Boomkin is kinda good tbh

U win on 3rd incarn just get there

[late wraith]

yeah it is but casters are not beginner friendly

[stray sigil]

im not sure how to help that in general

[late wraith]

good and free are two different things

war is free

[stray sigil]

cuz like generally ud want to like double bleed and rotate stun/clone drs

[late wraith]

ele is free

[stray sigil]

and like keep going between ppl that way

but its like ur so new

idk that its good advice

[stray sigil]

pls not this cope agane

[late wraith]

BEGINNER FRIENDLY

[stray sigil]

i hate that arguement that casters harder than melee

nopn op

not gonna get baited

[late wraith]

okay there is a beginner friendly caster and it's dev

dev, war, bm

[clear pulsar]

Best thing you can do is record some games and show someone. Cuz like bestie we need to find what you're doing right first.

[past fossil]

Mages seem pretty free

[stray sigil]

na i dont think mages good for complete newbs

at all

[grand mesa]

Mage is rough

[late wraith]

they're not harder than melee but there are more beginner friendly specs than boomy, like dev

[clear pulsar]

Frost mage is OP but mage as a class is maybe the hardest caster

[grand mesa]

IMO

[stray sigil]

prob sp

but mage kinda close

[clear pulsar]

True, it takes a lot of skill to be a shadow maestro like Facethevoid

[grand mesa]

Dev is only caster that looks at a 3 melee lobby and says oh a good lobby for me

[stray sigil]

[clear pulsar]

Shuddup pizzabox

[grand mesa]

I’m enh

[stray sigil]

this mans

was playing ele

and doing nothing right

but saying ele is so bad

he diudnt realize until like 3 days ago

[grand mesa]

I never said ele was bad?

[stray sigil]

ONG

[grand mesa]

I said I don’t like ele

[stray sigil]

u said ur ele is bad

[late wraith]

ele is fuckin idiot proof

press your buttons oops everyone is dead. oops

[stray sigil]

but u also didnt play the spec rly

[late wraith]

no need to cast just press your insta cast buttons oooops

[grand mesa]

I played it like 5 times and realized I can’t bunny hop like DF

and have to hard cast a bit more

[stray sigil]

no way

[grand mesa]

Don’t like it

[stray sigil]

NO WAY A BOOMY

IS SAYING THIS

AM I READING THIS CORRECTLY

[late wraith]

boomy casts you're just mad because you get your kick baited by them

if a boomy doesn't cast explain the precog uptime you get

[stray sigil]

yeah boomy casts

cyclone

or the lidle 20k dmg wraths

[late wraith]

u don't know shit about boomy hoooooly

insane

[stray sigil]

[grand mesa]

I feel like we strayed from the r original intent of helping homie get his 1800

[late wraith]

true

me and fuji are baiting each other and it's not even lunchtime yet

[clear pulsar]

Bestie it's 4pm

[late wraith]

it is 10:50

am

[stray sigil]

its 1 50

[grand mesa]

It’s 13:51

[stray sigil]

i just said thaty dumb pig

[late wraith]

@grand mesa help @unborn knot pick something for zekvir, he asked me but you're the real mole person

[grand mesa]

Wdym

Ider what spec I did it on

[late wraith]

he weants to beat zekvir i dunno how to do that because i'm not a mole people

[grand mesa]

idk it’s just a mini raid fight. Make sure ur not jebaited by any other cast except the one that heals

[stray sigil]

just do ret

how can die

[grand mesa]

He phases at 60% or whatever and it becomes more dodge shit on ground

And make sure to kill egg

save lust for p2

[velvet quest]

I bet it’s easy on ww but I’d prob just use whatever char is most geared idk if it’s worth full gearing a new alt that ur bad at to try to cheese it

[late wraith]

i wish zeny was in here because he knows so much about this stupid fight it's wild. like he was saying zekvir hits harder into like mail and plate than cloth or something.

with melee hits

so it's best to do on cloth

[grand mesa]

I think that’s all pointless if you’re relatively high ilvl

[late wraith]

but i have not even seen whatever this is

[grand mesa]

And have ring and shit

I think I did it on priest

[late wraith]

because catch me in a fuckin DELVE holyyyyyy

[grand mesa]

So I know atleast as spr

[clear pulsar]

Yeah that feels like a matters at 600 ilvl situach

[late wraith]

if you see me in a delve on bnet check on me

i'm not okay

[grand mesa]

I can’t wait for delves next season bro

I got bran max leveled

recently

[late wraith]

wait i wanted to show you my bran hang on

[grand mesa]

To prepare

[velvet quest]

Oh I bet havoc would be real easy too and just take some ring gems with self healing if u feel ur lacking sustain

[clear pulsar]

Feral was easier than resto or guardian, but with current up to date pve gear guardian is prob easiest for Druid specs cuz you have the damage for egg easily and it trivializes surviving

[late wraith]

damage for egg

@grand mesa

[grand mesa]

I’m clutching my pearls

[stray sigil]

wasnt hat bad ye

[grand mesa]

Put on your mining hat soldier

[late wraith]

my brann is awful

[grand mesa]

We’re spelunking next season

[late wraith]

i hate this liddle bitch so much

he just STANDS in shit

he's my worst raider and it's not even close because as he stands in shit he tells me not to

like oh you think pal?

[velvet quest]

Brann like me fr

[clear pulsar]

Bro how do I have 0 undercoin

Wtf did I do

I cant even buy keys for my monk

[grand mesa]

Traj

[stray sigil]

face rly my biggest fan

turns ww when after i do

[late wraith]

he wants the mog

[grand mesa]

We all want the mog

[stray sigil]

nah hes just my biggest fan

[late wraith]

everyone wants to look like an anime

it's pathetic

[grand mesa]

Fuck imma be doing LFR all next tier until I finish sets

[velvet quest]

I don’t even understand what anime means

[stray sigil]

[grand mesa]

buttpuncherx will look like goku

[stray sigil]

na ur g onna play him for 2 games

and give up

like every other season

of monk for u

[late wraith]

gonna have a bunch of gokus running around smdh

kicking and punching shid

[grand mesa]

I made progress this go around fuji

[late wraith]

like little animals

fuck ww for real

[stray sigil]

boomy

[grand mesa]

I learned u can cast vivify and envM while channeling soothing mist

[stray sigil]

[stray sigil]

[grand mesa]

And every time I told someone my discovery

[late wraith]

this game has guns and they fist. pathetic.

[grand mesa]

I got a “….uhhh. Everyone knows that”

[stray sigil]

ur def like 15 years late yes

[late wraith]

puzzle on that new old tech

leave him be

[stray sigil]

[velvet quest]

I play mistweaver I know this of course

[stray sigil]

[late wraith]

can i do zekvir if my brann is 25

i hate my brann. puzzle trade

i want yours i don't want mine

[grand mesa]

I worked hard for mine!!!

[late wraith]

no i think blizzard gave me a bad brann

it's defective i want yours

when i see my brann i want to shove him in a locker

and kick him down cliffs

[velvet quest]

Beavs is like a middle school bully making fun of someone for doing their homework and then demanding to copy it from them

[late wraith]

yes

[grand mesa]

Beavs would totally shove face in a locker

[late wraith]

no i wouldn't

if he was annoying me maybe

[velvet quest]

It wouldn’t have to be a shove just a gentle push would be enough

[grand mesa]

Forcefem Fuji wouldn’t topple that easily

[late wraith]

FORCEFEM FUJI

[clear pulsar]

Why me wtf

[past fossil]

I know this probably doesn’t have a good answer, but what classes do you typically want to target in shuffle versus which ones you don’t? And when do you want to just target the healer instead?

Evoker seems like a class I don’t even want to bother trying to kill because they’re so mobile it feels like a huge waste of time

[stray sigil]

whatever is easier to hit/stops the most dmg or cc

[clear pulsar]

The main considerations for me are 1. can I stop anything meaningful and 2. does it make them hit us more than we hit them

[stray sigil]

STOP REPEATING WHAT I SAY

1 LINE UNDER

[late wraith]

Face made it sound better

[stray sigil]

puzzle put him up to it

[late wraith]

That’s super insightful face Ty

[clear pulsar]

So like if you're melee + ranged vs melee + ranged, going on the melee while the melee trains your ranged, you're getting cleaved for free but you don't get to cleave

[stray sigil]

puzzles doing the same thing with taxes

he 100p told him to do it

[late wraith]

puzzle is a fuckin puppet master

[velvet quest]

The main considerations for me are 1. can I stop anything meaningful and 2. does it make them hit us more than we hit them

[clear pulsar]

Idk why you think puzzle is telling me anything

He literally broke up with me last week

[late wraith]

You all ever think about how puzzle is an ominous presence who pulls all our strings?

[stray sigil]

hes old

and bald

[late wraith]

yeah ominous

he’s the wizard behind the curtain

[grand mesa]

That makes me sound way cooler and smarter than I am

[velvet quest]

all supervillains are old and bald everyone knows

[stray sigil]

face cant be a villain

hes 5'2

[late wraith]

Puzzle when the rest of us squabble:

[grand mesa]

I did not tell face to do anything

He simply found your explanation while correct, lacking, and expanded on it

🤷‍♂️

[stray sigil]

[past fossil]

So like, even if the melee might be the easier kill, would you go on the range so that way you’re taking less combined damage?

[clear pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/fake-smile-orphan-isabelle-fuhrman-insomnia-smile-gif-11696346

^this me

[grand mesa]

Face did you get back to gamz

Btw

[wintry jackal]

Beavs is right

[clear pulsar]

The only ranged that is gonna be considerably harder to kill is a good mage player

Which are not in your bracket

But bad mages are rly easy to kill

[grand mesa]

He asked us if anyone knew how symbiotic relationship works and none of us did. But I told him if he asks face I can guarantee you’d get back 4 paragraphs a pie chart a spreadsheet table and a light novella

[clear pulsar]

Who is us

[late wraith]

It’s when two things benefit each other

Like ants on a tree who keep other pests off the tree

[grand mesa]

Cyoncord yappers

[clear pulsar]

But also I didnt rly test out how symbio works

[past fossil]

Sorry I feel like I’m being a total noob and asking dumb questions, but do you guys maintain thrash too

[clear pulsar]

It's kinda pathetic I'm not paying any mind to it

[grand mesa]

symbio?

[clear pulsar]

I told him what I know about it

[past fossil]

I swapped off of BT because my pea brain couldn’t handle it, so I stopped trying to use thrash

[grand mesa]

Seems to me it might be ok as a bear ?

[late wraith]

It’s why this discord is here if anything we’re yapping too much

[clear pulsar]

But I was kinda confused why he asked me specifically, makes sense now

[grand mesa]

does leech work btw

yeah I told him you’re the guy for that stuff 😂

Never wrong either

[fringe mulch]

i have made a gorilla brain dead feral build and will be the next sodapoppin

[grand mesa]

except today

Today was a great day

When you were confidently wrong and corrected first global

[clear pulsar]

[fringe mulch]

so if you play thrash, going thrashing claws is good right

so you never need to thrash

[late wraith]

But also no. @stray sigil you don’t use thrash right?

thrash is for bears

[fringe mulch]

why is fluid form good

you guys just have mangle instead of bear form or something? im confused

[velvet quest]

when u swap from bear to cat what do you normally do?

[fringe mulch]

spam frenzied regen

[velvet quest]

oh weird thats not the answer i expected carry on then i guess

[fringe mulch]

whats the bear meta

i thought it was just to sit and kite

[velvet quest]

wdym bear meta

[fringe mulch]

what should i be doing in bear

if not that

[velvet quest]

yeah that seems fine

[past fossil]

Isn’t thrash a cat spell too?

[clear pulsar]

Cuz it saves 1 global

[grand mesa]

Sometbing sometbing blood talons

[clear pulsar]

I dont have mangle bound out of bear bar but should definitely have rake and shred bound out of cat form

[velvet quest]

ur responses are trite and passive aggressive
and u dont seem like u know what ur talking about

[clear pulsar]

Oh also no. Most bear self healing wont work really. It's a lot of absorbs, item effects, stuff based on other heals (leech, mastery)

[late wraith]

Yeah I just don’t think you need to use it in cat @clear pulsar help

[clear pulsar]

You maintain Thrash just like boomie maintains Sunfire

But also a lot of ppl play a talent that makes Thrash passively maintained by Brutal Slash

[grand mesa]

Fuji hasn’t recovered from face repeating what he said, but betterer

[late wraith]

I thought no thrash press for feral? Huh? Oh yeah it’s brutal slash that was it

[past fossil]

Oh I didn’t realize brutal slash can apply thrash, I wonder if I have that talent.

[late wraith]

He’s weeping in the shower

[velvet quest]

shred would also apply i think as long as u have thrash in class tree and thrashing claws in spec tree

[clear pulsar]

I rooted him out

[stray sigil]

[late wraith]

Imagine maintaining blood talons. Couldn’t be me. Or could I don’t know where the buff shows up

[stray sigil]

no pig

[stray sigil]

trash a very low prio bleed to maintain

kinda press it for bt more than anything

[late wraith]

wtf you told me don’t press thrash

Fuji is trying to int my feral climb

FUJI LED ME ASTRAY

[velvet quest]

have u already ungiven up on feral? a bit of wavering?

[late wraith]

girl no feral is well dead

That’s just boomy 3 now

I need to have a feral pve arc if I’m going to try feral for real

And next season ain’t it for pve on account of how ugly it all looks so it’s not happening

[past fossil]

I’ll just keep tanking :). guardian looks like it will be good next season now that it has magic dmg reduc and getting a 20% damage buff

[grand mesa]

Pve next tier looks great

Can’t wait

In pve I don’t care that warrior is being buffed to the moon 🚀🌕💎🙌

[stray sigil]

he said 4 days ago

"why do i raid lmao"

i cant with this pig anymore

[chrome panther]

[grand mesa]

I’m a pvepvparenaraidwarlord that’s gonna main discenhrestodruid

I don’t understand this confusion

[late wraith]

I think this is his new lotr bait

[chrome panther]

i cannot wait to play arms for a week

[late wraith]

He got tired of us not taking the lotr bait so he swapped which is clever

[chrome panther]

before it gets nerfed -30%

[stray sigil]

[grand mesa]

Oh also shadow

I’ve probably played more shadow in keys than disc

[chrome panther]

rdruid tier nuts

shadow tier nuts

aff tier nuts

[grand mesa]

SPLAY?

[clear pulsar]

[grand mesa]

Whatsup face

[stray sigil]

there is 0 chance

[unborn knot]

@velvet quest sorry im coming in late, ww it is then, im 628, i havent actually tried it yet but ive heard horror stories of magetower x1000 and full days spent in there with no success

[stray sigil]

puzzle has any suyccess playing splay

its gonna be way too long games

hes gonna start spazzing out and doing wierd shit

100p

[grand mesa]

Fuji saying I’m not good enough to play damp

[grand mesa]

It is not that hard

It was like 5 pulls for me

628 is more than enough

make sure u kick his heal don’t get jebaited by other casts lust in p2 make sure u have buttons to kill eggs maybe bran does something maybe not dodge shit. Immediately run out of his circle thing done greed a gcd