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lime light
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its pure rng if u win or lose

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winning / losing is just a cosmetic there

livid wasp
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I want a healer to carry in blitz

tropic schooner
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zechey resto angle?!

livid wasp
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I mean a healer to carry me

clear bloom
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you mean a Mistweaver

livid wasp
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playing a healer now thats just self harm

lime light
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or pdragon

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i think we are playing different games

clear bloom
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nah healer is great rn. Unless you play rdruid

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maybe rsham but I don't play rsham dunno how that feels.

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hpal may not be pres or disc but it's close enough to not feel bad.

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i dunno if I would enjoy healer as much if I played only by myself though.

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that's probably self harm tbh

viscid remnant
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feral losing in awc rn

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zechey about to rope it

livid wasp
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how often is that shit

lime light
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sp too tanky

late wraith
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Zechey has to be baiting now like come on. He said disc and feral are bad

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This is deranged

livid wasp
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I wouldnt be 1.6k if it was really broken

viscid remnant
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feral just lost in awc cuh

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its trash fr

late wraith
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zechey, hear me out

livid wasp
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and ive beaten other feral teams

late wraith
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Maybe it’s just you

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maybe it isn’t feral as an entire spec

safe heart
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I'm also 1650ish and I beat other feral teams

livid wasp
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I remember hitting 2.4k relatively easily years and years ago

late wraith
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So?

livid wasp
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if feral was good I could do it again

late wraith
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It is bb

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It is good

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What could have changed

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Between now and then

livid wasp
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I dont know, nothing

late wraith
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okay

livid wasp
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it just feels weak

safe heart
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It doesn't feel weak to me
I still squishy but feels like I can atleast keep up good damage and make plays

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In 3s atleast

lime light
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guys i wanna tell u something

safe heart
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I write off shuff

lime light
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u are beating the faceroll rerollers

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that are 1600 ixp

late wraith
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Yeah it’s true.

blazing rivet
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feral first class to get nerfed

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its horribly op

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unlucky

safe heart
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Ah yea I always forget that I'm just insanely bad at this game somehow

livid wasp
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I will try again with 12% more mastery soon, maybe itll be easier

velvet quest
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Yeah zechey I think the reason you’re losing games is stat weights. More mastery turns feral from B tier to S tier spec

livid wasp
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cope

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cope

safe heart
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I feel like I lose mainly because I don't play more scared when I can't trinket wall

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Ptsd from pppl telling me I don't do dmg

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And I brawl with warriors and dhs too much

livid wasp
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I lose mainly cause idk

velvet quest
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U lose cause the other team played better probably

stray sigil
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when i lose its a healer diff usually

late wraith
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Lol Fuji you clown

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Clown ass

stray sigil
safe heart
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If i get glad as feral this szn

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It will be the sick

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Against all odds

clear pulsar
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I level priest

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We feral disc to the stars

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For sure

livid wasp
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I cant get partners with this work schedule

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maybe gotta go NA

viscid remnant
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You log in at 1am everyday

livid wasp
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yes thats when I usually have the energy to start quing

hidden sphinx
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Damn is feral actually R1?

livid wasp
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I need to find unemployed partners

stray sigil
viscid remnant
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I cooka da pasta

robust vigil
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I have a question for you guys. How do I save my bartender UI that I make?

I just set a bartender UI for my druid, logged out, made one for my rogue. It took an hour total. Logged back on my druid and nothing had saved. So I went and checked my rogue and it hadn't saved either.....

Note: I just tested using the "create new profile" under profiles and saving it as a new profile, that isn't work either.

Do I have to set up my bars, UI and keybinds Everytime I log in with this addon, I'm kind of confused

late wraith
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it should be auto saving

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as a profile called something like "default" or your character name

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but i also haven't used bartender for years. df introduced ui customization that made that redundant

jagged flicker
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anyone know how to beat bm

viscid remnant
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ep faral ?

livid wasp
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how did you beat disc affli its way worse

robust vigil
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But I'll share screen when I get home

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Before I log out it's all saved to my character name profile

jagged flicker
robust vigil
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But when I log back in my character profile is identical to the default

livid wasp
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do you just sit on the disc or what

jagged flicker
livid wasp
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but they stand 1km apart

jagged flicker
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tireless pursuit lock vs affli

livid wasp
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idk

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I wanna see how to get 2k

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wrong place to ask for advice though, youre the 2nd best feral here now after axtin

viscid remnant
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big feral

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u need to learn zechey

stray sigil
livid wasp
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I need to play more and not rage

jagged flicker
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its hard vs bm hunters xd

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9/14 arenas today is bm hunters lol

livid wasp
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I have won those bm hunter arenas

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I just dot both switch on defensives some clones idk what im doing anymore

jagged flicker
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u runnin with disc right

livid wasp
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usually

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its weird tho

robust vigil
# late wraith it should be auto saving

So theres an existing profile with my name and server (SpideySense Else Thalas) that seems to have everything saved, but I don't see a "save profile" button. When I hit my character profile it has all my edits and when I hit default profile the default one is wiped clean.

However when I log out and log back in that same character profile that had all my edits is now identical to the blank slate default.

late wraith
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there is not supposed to be a save button it just auto saves it as a profile for that character

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just select the character name that you built it out on in on all characters you want it on

robust vigil
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I just said it's not auto saving to my character profile

late wraith
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you said the one weith your name seems to have everything saved

robust vigil
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What does the second paragraph say that starts with the word "however"

late wraith
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yeah i'm done helping you lol

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have fun

robust vigil
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You literally didn't help you read the first half and thought you knew what I said

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You didn't even finish reading my issue before you responded

viscid remnant
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dont use bartender

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use the normal blizzard ui

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gg

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saved

livid wasp
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less addons the better

viscid remnant
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how do u logout

livid wasp
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/camp

robust vigil
viscid remnant
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if u dont log out normally bartender doesnt save

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but u shouldnt use bartender because its outdated and blizzard has put most of its functions in the default ui

robust vigil
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I type /logout

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Can I remove the ugly blizzard art bar at the bottom of the screen

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In game settings

robust vigil
viscid remnant
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idk i just notice if u altf4 or close the game from windows it doesnt save

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but u sohuldnt use that

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its old

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and bad

robust vigil
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K

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@late wraith Sorry if I was rude mate 🤝 🌹

late wraith
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all good

quaint rapids
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Only bar addon I use anymore is to hide bar 1 when I don't need it.

robust vigil
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Gotcha. Thanks everyone. I had been using the in-game modifiers probably just didn't familiarize myself with it enough to see all the settings I needed were there

robust vigil
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What healers are the easiest to pick up and which ones are the most complicated. I've heard Hpally is most beginner friendly and R shammy in the most complicated. But I'm not sure where the other ones fall

clear pulsar
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Hardest is prob evoker

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Easiest depends, disc is very simple and it's easy to say it's the easiest now that it's completely broken but in general its weakness is a rough spot for new healers to learn, which is preemptive CD usage and management. Hpala prob most forgiving.

strange hawk
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I find disc weird as hell coming from rdruid. But I’m only 10-15 matches in

robust vigil
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And MW and rDruid are somewhere win the middle.

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In light of ease of play/ beginner friendly

robust vigil
# clear pulsar Hardest is prob evoker

In your opinion why is evoker so hard? I heard Rshaman has the worst button bloat and is also very macro heavy compared to some of the others. but I haven't really heard too much negative from Provoker mains

clear pulsar
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Nobody say its negative tho

robust vigil
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I mean negative as in drawbacks like people say shaman is strong but very hard for a beginner. I haven't heard people say that about Prevoker

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So I'm just curious

clear pulsar
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Evoker has shorter range and it's more reliant on hard casts than hpala or rsham, it's generally riskier.

robust vigil
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Ohhh gotcha. Range can easily be exploited

clear pulsar
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Nothing is rotationally hard, thats not what makes specs hard in wow

robust vigil
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For instance assassination is considered a complicated rotation for PvE and some people think the effort isn't worth the reward compared to a class with a simpler rotation and higher damage output

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From like a mythic plus perspective

clear pulsar
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You do not understand how abhorrent I find that discourse of effort for reward

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But yeah I suppose some ppl can find anything hard

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But at that point theyre capped out at a very low level of play

robust vigil
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I'm just referencing conversations I've heard and it's a valid argument for games and real life.

In the professional world there is an entire debate on whether it's worth improving weaknesses or if your time would be better spent doubling down on your strengths. Have you ever spent a long time trying to improve at a job and made minimal progress and maybe in another role or another Industry that better aligns with your strengths the same strides could go much further

clear pulsar
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K

viscid remnant
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Hpala easiest

simple zodiac
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I thought prevoker was easiest tbh

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I rarely play healer but hit duelist with that shit s1 df

robust vigil
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Andrew Carnegie famously stated that rather than improving his weaknesses he surrounded himself with people who had strengths in areas he wasn't.

The topic of effort vs reward is relevent in all walks of life.

In the gym theirs a whole convo on stimulus vs fatigue and how much hypertrophy and strength gains you can get with minimal fatigue and downtime

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In WoW having a less complicated rotation can help you pay attention more to other mechanics going on around you

clear pulsar
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But idk if someone picking up healing for the first time is gonna have a great time playing pres in 20yd range

simple zodiac
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I suppose I’m a rogue main so lining up cc and being close to combat is more natural to me

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Rsham is my crux for healing totems aren’t my thing

strange hawk
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Rsham I wild because of button bloat, disc healing feels weird in that it’s not real healing, I want to try Prevoker next

livid wasp
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do you guys like wow?

simple zodiac
strange hawk
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Yes. I don’t like playing with a lot of the people who play it though

robust vigil
strange hawk
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Cats are overrated

robust vigil
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How do I change my travel form back to the orange kitten. My travel form is a weird elk or indrek thing

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Not a fan

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I want the cheetah back

simple zodiac
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Barber shop

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Glyph from Ah

robust vigil
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Awwwww ty

simple zodiac
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I did the same lol

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You can also go to Druid order hall to get the mount form

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Where you’re a stag that others can ride

livid wasp
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@lime light @viscid remnant kitty cleave time

clear pulsar
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Love wow

strange hawk
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I tend to dislike it when I focus on only one area of the game

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Too much PvP, I am fried and annoyed with players. Too much PvE, I’m bored because it’s extremely repetitive

livid wasp
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I like it when I win

clear pulsar
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Yeah I'm looking for a chill but fairly competent guild cuz I'm kinda tired of only pvping too

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Not looking too hard tho just scrolling thru

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Also not the most fun to spam queue when healer balance is this bad

viscid remnant
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ep not on /

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?

random patrol
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pvp tuning included at the bottom

strange hawk
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PvP Bryan me out faster because rdruid is meh

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Hots feel weak

livid wasp
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Ferocious Wound (PvP Talent) now decreases maximum health by 3% per stack (was 5%

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Wildstalker: Chance for Bloodseeker Vines to grow on a single target is unchanged, but slightly increased when Rip and Rake are on multiple targets.
Wildstalker: Bursting Growth damage increased by 10%.

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see feral is so shit they slightly buffed it

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@viscid remnant guess not, I dont have his battle net

robust vigil
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I healed on pally and shaman back in wrath. So if druid doesn't work out I might try something else. But druids are just so fucking cool

And stealth is so nice for open world/ war mode

simple zodiac
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Vlas you should be playing feral live up to your rogue heritage

robust vigil
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I don't wanna be a meta hopper

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Like if feral wasn't S tier I might try it

viscid remnant
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u are saying feral is bad maybe i should remove u

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low iq statements on my btag
SAD!

livid wasp
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lol

robust vigil
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Who said Feral is bad lol

simple zodiac
robust vigil
simple zodiac
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Yes sir

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I play any “combo point” class

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Druid, rogue, paladin, frost mage

robust vigil
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Do they feel too similar to you in a bad way? I like having variety

simple zodiac
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Feral plays different enough to sin to make it exciting for me

robust vigil
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I have my 80 rogue as my melee dps. I have a 80 warlock for my ranged dps. And I wanted a healer next

livid wasp
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feral feels like shit to me compared to before

simple zodiac
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Also like you said .. druids are fucking cool so you got class fantasy going for you

robust vigil
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Druids might be the single coolest class in WoW

simple zodiac
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Sin is more about your death marks and vanish windows in pvp

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Feral is sustained pressure

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So it’s a different playstyle

robust vigil
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For open world. You can stealth. You can typhoon people off cliffs. You can instant cast flight form. No bigger menace than a druid in open world

livid wasp
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but I just equipped my new neck and got 10% more mastery which is 10% more dmg

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maybe its better now

sudden perch
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Looks like rdruids got a 40% cen ward buff and some mana regen, i still dont think tranquility is even worth pressing much of the time

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Ill take it but i wish that 5% healing buff woulda been pvp as well

simple zodiac
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I do think you’d enjoy feral a lot if you gave it a go though 🙂 @robust vigil

sudden perch
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Idgaf about tranq buff

robust vigil
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Maybe I should try both before I spend my catalysts and purple heraldries

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And then decide whether to go resto or feral

sudden perch
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Feral nerf was needed and im glad they;re choosing this route instead of nerfing damage

robust vigil
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Get a full set of green pvp gear to try both specs

robust vigil
# clear pulsar But yeah I suppose some ppl *can* find anything hard

This felt like a pot shot lol. But it may not have been personal. So sorry if I misunderstood you.

But as a newish/returning player. Less complex is certainly better for me while I'm learning everything I need to pay attention to like DRs and CDs and movement and learning my keybinds ECT. Honestly there's a lot on my screen and it's very clustered and half the time I'm not looking at DRs and all of that stuff like I should.

Eventually I'll go for more and more challenging once I feel comfy.

clear pulsar
sudden perch
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Who are you trying to play? If you’re new/returning, feral is actually pretty hard, id go with resto

clear pulsar
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What the

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You're such a victim bro

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Calm down

robust vigil
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Sly wants me to try feral cause I main Assassination

sudden perch
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Oh thats fine then

simple zodiac
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I think it makes sense

robust vigil
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A lot of communication is body language, tone of voice, and knowing an individual. And I don't know you guys very well yet and don't have access to the body language and tone of voice

sudden perch
clear pulsar
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Maybe the pveers will yell enough about

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The flourish/photo node

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Eventually

strange hawk
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lol

simple zodiac
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It’ll be a cold day in hell when pvp influences balance that much

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Sad times

strange hawk
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All these Resto buffs but then reading “does not affect PvP combat”

robust vigil
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Pain 🥲

clear pulsar
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40% CW is pretty nice

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Along with the CW upgrade from 11.0.5

sudden perch
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I agree it’s nice, but a 30% tranq buff was just blizz throwing shit at the wall, i rather just have had the 5% healing buff

strange hawk
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Tranq buff is stupid.

late wraith
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we are mostly competent

drowsy surge
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Ferocious wound cucked huh

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I remember back in Legion one bite was a 25% max health reduction lmaooo

strange hawk
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Where is disc nerfs!?

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I guess don’t want to fuck over AWC lol

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But who cares about that tbh

drowsy surge
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Meh

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they're buffing rsham

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and rdruid

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just need to buff other healers a bit more

clear pulsar
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It was hilarious doing the 1cp bite spam

sudden perch
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Btw, why is blizz so against % overall healing in pvp? We have the lowest output compared to other classes in pvp…

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Or even if it’s good it’s just a lot of work

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I can imagine shamans also being a little tough being such a hard caster

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Outside of riptides

velvet quest
late wraith
vestal citrus
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beavs heroic raid is certified bait

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avoid avoid avoid

late wraith
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heroic raid with me?

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or are you saying to me that heroic raid is bait

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use commas you clown

robust vigil
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😂

vestal citrus
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a comma wouldn't help

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an apostrophe tho...

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beavs'

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silly americans with ur silly education

late wraith
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i'm canadian

blazing rivet
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why is nobody glazing tonyferalmovies like u glazed the na feral

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tonyferalmovies is bis

livid wasp
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jungle feels so traaaash

clear pulsar
strange hawk
drowsy surge
strange hawk
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Hpal doesn’t need buffs

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MW could if you’re looking at 3s but they run BGB

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I guess holy could use it. But they have disc so it’s fine

viscid remnant
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I think the balance is almost okay

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Other than monk in non blitz

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I give up on that class

drowsy surge
drowsy surge
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That’s its own issue

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hpal I could agree is alright

clear bloom
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All they gotta do is just mess with mw mobility while holding flag like they've already done with so many abilities and then they can mess with them for 3s easy.

strange hawk
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Rsham is better than rdruid right now, we will see after the buffs

edgy shale
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i glaze catvish

safe heart
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You're playing healer in solo shuffle. You're up 2-0. One of the dps says you're lucky he's carrying you.

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victor_answer_text

Afk out (chad)

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Let's go

livid wasp
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why is jungle so trash

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why is it so shit

edgy shale
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cuz it has feral druid in it

livid wasp
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disc priest double uh dk

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unhealable dmg

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how do we kill shit

safe heart
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Your hots tick for 10k. In response you _

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victor_answer_text

reply to mayo

livid wasp
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like okay its good in awc but maybe its good only if every player is R1 tryhard communicating

stray sigil
viscid remnant
livid wasp
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some guy on my btag

late wraith
edgy shale
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more better

quaint rapids
edgy shale
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why didnt druids fight in the third war

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big mistake

viscid remnant
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They were busy glazing

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Big mistake

robust vigil
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Is [Old Crappy McWeaksauce] still in the game lol

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Remember when people used to link this all the time in /2.

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I looked up forums but for one theyre from 5 years ago and I also didn't see anything conclusive

edgy shale
robust vigil
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I have found old links on WoW head from TBC and WOTLK but they're aren't working.

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Maybe they finally nerfed ol weak sauce right out the game 😢

quasi light
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Hello. I'm a guardian player interested in learning the methods of feral pvp for blitz. Is there a guide or prefered starting build for them? I looked at murlock and the top two blitzers have...very different builds! Which I think is encouraging but I kind of want to know the basic starting point for blitz

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never mind I see one is in the pins

livid wasp
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sigh I should be farming blitz but those loss streaks are too tough

quasi light
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I'm confused which talent is allowing my cat to cast regrowth as an ogcd

gloomy rivet
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Just switched to balance druid from mage, I used to be really good against warriors and terrible against hunters. But I can't figure out Balance Druid's counters

late wraith
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rogue and dk feel pretty bad. lately ww kind of? anything that's really hard for us to kite away from cause we kinda need to kite hard.

gloomy rivet
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Fmages are kinda blowing me up too

late wraith
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we are fine into most casters, hunter is kinda rough if we get caught in the open with an mm hunter

random patrol
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arena or general 1v1s?

late wraith
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fury is rough if you don't kite them and let the bleeds fall off but they're generally more kitable than dk imo

gloomy rivet
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general, blitz, open world,

late wraith
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1v1 we struggle bad with rogue and dk

tiny oar
random patrol
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being a stealthie you have one huge advantage you can choose your fights

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if you don't want to fight a certain pc then you dont

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in casual pvp or open world you can use potions to help power yourself up against bad matchups in blitz or rated bgs you get a lot out of zerk

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only dps specs I gen avoid are unholy dks and locks in 1v1s

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depends if I have a good los as well

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stealthy match up greatly depends on who is the agressor/better player

robust vigil
late wraith
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ye boomy pvp bear pve

polar nymph
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Yeah which one?

tiny oar
random patrol
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I dont know why but for some reason everytime I do a bg rat I mean ret pallies try to kill me and end up loosing the 1v1 @tiny oar why are they so mean and smelly

tiny oar
random patrol
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@tiny oar ret is easy just walk away from then and los

gloomy nova
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So yet again we're not seeing any rdruid buffs worth mentioning ha

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Fun times to be alive

tiny oar
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every day is a fun time to be alive if you let it be

random patrol
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eh Im a choke on the chicken again(not really)

tiny oar
tiny oar
random patrol
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rake feels great.............cept in arena

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oh well

tiny oar
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surely it's a vibe

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rake rogue mage opener gg ez

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?

random patrol
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@tiny oar Im not a night elf

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I cant meld rake

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also forces me to waste a gcd to go into chicken

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so meh

tiny oar
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sad

random patrol
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@tiny oar watching my healer q against a evoker called horsegoblin

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so there's that

viscid remnant
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kino

rapid wagon
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Hey guys will resto druids be rocking 4pc for pvp or is it not worth it?

tiny oar
random patrol
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time to act like Zechey and whine about solo shuffle despite not qing since week one and winning most lobbies(later in the week) @tiny oar

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#nerfrestodruidsforsomereason

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there I acted liked Zechey

random patrol
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@tiny oar watched a video of me and my healer doing blitz the other day and I was doing a million)1.2mill plus) damage a second in the 3v5 team fight that we won in deepwind

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good reason to always duo q blitz

neon brook
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every feral is playing incarn in blitz, get yourselves one of these and convoke some kids

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convoke is the secret sauce i swear

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get rid of some trinkets instantly, get rid of people without trinkets instantly

tiny oar
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yea dude ur cooking

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idk if I wanna eat it tho

random patrol
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your a guardian main now anyway @tiny oar

neon brook
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fuckers just icebound and summon an army while at it

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i dont often do teamfights tho i'm the rat bastard in blitz, finding the 1v1s and holding healers hostage

livid wasp
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they really need to tone down warriors damage

viscid remnant
tropic schooner
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wake up
log in
complain in #pvp
sleep
repeat

viscid remnant
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zechey meltdown inc

robust vigil
viscid remnant
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gotta use addon for that probably

robust vigil
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LOL

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Full circle 😭😭😭😭

robust vigil
# vestal citrus bartender

He suggested in-game UI cause my profiles weren't saving on bartender and I was asking the group how to fix that. He basically said bartender was outdated and not to use it xD

vestal citrus
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idk

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oh

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there is a button in edit mode

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on the ab

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supposedly?

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mb not, but i would just use bartender if it bothers u

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or uhh

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dominos i think that's the other one that does action bar stuff

robust vigil
#

Domino's? I'll check that out man. Thanks 🙏🏼

viscid remnant
#

idk

#

i think bartender is bad

#

last expansion i used bartender and it was popping off errors every time i played

#

everything i needed it for was solved by the default ui

tropic schooner
#

took me 30s to find it

robust vigil
#

I saw an invisible option in there. But I assumed it was for the entire skill bar not just the empty squares.

tropic schooner
#

????

vestal citrus
#

ye i was gonna say i thought that was an option lol

robust vigil
#

Is that for all the skills

#

Or just empty bar spaces

#

It doesn't specify

tropic schooner
#

so no way you could figure that one out

robust vigil
#

I never said that. I guess I just made a wrong assumption

#

At work ATM I'll test when I get home in 12 hours

strange hawk
#

Should focus on work

robust vigil
strange hawk
#

Don’t get fired for talking on discord

tropic schooner
robust vigil
strange hawk
#

Hoping this CW and mana reduction changes have a noticeable impact. Failing those, tranq ftw?

wary stirrup
#

no rdruid will still be dogshit

#

you must attune for your sins in df

strange hawk
#

Gotta be optimistic lol it’s all I play

wary stirrup
#

time to make some alts

robust vigil
# strange hawk Don’t get fired for talking on discord

I thought scrolling through discord at work was a fairly normal thing.

I've posted fairly innocuous Pg13 images in discords that have been removed because they were supposedly NSFW (even though they weren't anything I would be afraid to have as a wallpaper on my desktop at my job)

strange hawk
strange hawk
lime light
#

Daily Zechey pls

tiny oar
#

true

viscid remnant
#

ihave 2hr cd

#

from shuffle

#

iam the zechey today

tiny oar
pulsar quail
#

Hey guys, what's up!? I play on Azralon a Brazilian Server and live in Dubai.

#

I capped the ping at 230ms-240ms with everything money can buy here:

  • The Best Internet
  • The Best ASUS Router
  • I am even playing on the new Macbook with a stupid Wireless receptor.
#

It's borderline insanity to reach Gladiator with Boomkin at 230ms-240ms
What else do you guys think I could try to reduce the ping?

  • Getgud and is not an option;
  • Moving is not an option;
  • Money is not a problem.
strange hawk
#

Download more ram

green igloo
#

The fastest answer is, wire conection

#

which will reduce the latency between the endpoints

#

but that's not even the pain point

viscid remnant
#

the only way u can reduce ping is getting closer to the server

green igloo
#

the problem is with the conection to the servers, which I think does not have any kind of resolution

viscid remnant
#

all the other methods are mostly fake

#

u can try exitlag maybe but i dont believe it does anything

green igloo
#

it's not even on your hands how your ISP find the route into the servers with mpls etc

pulsar quail
#

I was thinking of having a bulk Desktop near the Server and having my private tunnel to it:

  • I can buy one specific desktop for tunnel
  • Place it in a friend's house in São Paulo (20ms there)
  • Having one of those plugs for remotely turning it on
  • Creating a macro on my Mac to play wow
  • The macro will: turn the Desktop on, establish a tunnel between my Macbook (Dubai) and the Desktop (São Paulo), ping both, and proxy the connection.
lime light
#

wait

pulsar quail
#

Feasible or Delusional?

lime light
#

how do u get

#

ban for shuffle

#

u leave and thats the gift?

#

u get

green igloo
#

I supose finding an EU server, or something closer, is not an option

robust vigil
green igloo
#

I don't know how much improvement a virtual dedicate line would give

safe heart
#

If money is not a problem, I'd just buy glad and sort it out later

clear pulsar
safe heart
#

French2french

clear pulsar
visual void
#

yoo is there a comp with feral/warr ?

polar nymph
#

Isn't that Kitty Cleave?

haughty nova
#

you're better off renting a vps server instead of putting hardware at a friend's house

#

but yeah, nothing is hosted in SA anymore I don't think. so if you do that, get it clloser to the actual server

livid wasp
#

if you live in dubai you should just buy a multi r1 account and be done with the game

pulsar quail
#

I am not considering buying Rush nor changing servers.

#

Killing people with Boomkin with a PS5 Edge controller is something unique lol

#

In 2-3 years when the server mesh technology of Star Citizen becomes norm, this problem won't exist anymore.

pulsar quail
livid wasp
#

cross region inc?

viscid remnant
#

braindmg

livid wasp
#

which one of your 10 ferraris is your favourite?

clear pulsar
#

I dont think you're gonna get much better ping than 230ms from Dubai to Chicago. It is simply a geographical issue.

green igloo
#

dubai ppl will buy the world but electrons wont move faster in the wire unless you make them with gold

clear pulsar
#

^

pulsar quail
pulsar quail
#

I think an electron reaches there faster than the DK can stun me and I simply can't use Wild Charge in time

pulsar quail
livid wasp
#

nice

pulsar quail
#

A VPS is the best way, right? Currently...

haughty nova
#

anyone will do really. the cheapest you can find. aws, vultr, digitalocean, hertzner, linode, etc

austere jay
#

Haste or Mastery stacking for solo shuffle as resto druid?

clear pulsar
#

Mastery #1

clear fox
#

Face I am behind times

#

Is energy redistribution meta now ?

#

Or is this because free conquest weapon brick getting ascendance ?

tropic schooner
viscid remnant
#

POLAND

wary stirrup
#

POLAND THE WICKED

tropic schooner
viscid remnant
#

PPPPPOLAND

clear pulsar
viscid remnant
#

i think beaconmaxxing

#

2 beacons

clear pulsar
#

Ascendance average stat gain is like ~1% at most

#

2% for wearing the double patch I'm not sure it's better overall than redistribution even for resto druid. But it works to heal yourself and it adds healing which redist doesn't directly

livid wasp
#

kittycleave?

viscid remnant
#

POLAND

lime light
#

i have lecture till 7;30

viscid remnant
#

studying gemran ?

lime light
#

Ich spreche sehr gut deutsch

pulsar merlin
#

Im looking at murloc.io and top 50 blitz info. Should I grab conq chest and legs and catalyst them?

#

Feral that is

tropic schooner
clear pulsar
livid wasp
#

ok lets go 7:30

clear pulsar
#

You're gonna use the 4 pieces that arent head

livid wasp
#

its saturday who has lectures on saturday

pulsar merlin
viscid remnant
#

POLAND

clear pulsar
#

Doesnt matter cuz you only have 3 catalyst charges anyways

stray sigil
livid wasp
#

wann spielen wir kittycleave?

tropic schooner
lime light
#

um halb acht

velvet quest
#

Lich kinggodx

clear pulsar
lime light
#

amen

tropic schooner
tiny oar
#

:)

lime light
#

Kätzchenspalten

#

unsere Katze ist klein

#

sondern unsere woyer ist gross

tropic schooner
livid wasp
#

how is blitz fair

#

enemy team gets a fucking DK, rogue, two evokers

#

MY TEAM GETS NONE OF THOSE

#

HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED T OWIN

lime light
#

dont play teamfight?

livid wasp
#

I am the fucking fc

#

squishy as shit

#

AND THEY WIN WITH THE FLAG CAP CAUSE MY PRIEST PICKED THE FLAG AND DIDNT DROP IT FOR ME

#

MY PRIESTA

#

A FUCKING PRIEST

clear pulsar
#

I mean

#

It isnt

#

Random comp isnt always fair

#

You're playing the numbers with the unfairness of comp averaging out over time

livid wasp
#

nah you have to group up with an evoker to climb

lime light
#

the only thing i do in blitz is damgur

clear pulsar
#

I hear mistweaver is the real sauce

lime light
#

me go mid, and damgur

#

nothing else

#

if i win i win

low hazel
#

Qing with mw or evoker defo helps a ton

lime light
#

if iam the top damgur i won

livid wasp
#

holy shit I got so pissed off worse than any 3s or 2s or shuffle game ever

#

im goign to get banned

low hazel
#

Even at the highest lvl ppl get 5capped/overrun due to comp differences

#

just how it is

livid wasp
#

FUCKING IDIOTS

lime light
#

Daily ZECHEHEHEY

clear bloom
livid wasp
#

I was 2.2k first game after placements

#

now im 1.9k after those two fuckign shit comp losses

clear bloom
#

if no mistweaver on either team. Then the other classes matter

clear pulsar
#

Get a grip bro how old are you

tropic schooner
low hazel
#

Anyone know of a DR tracker that works

#

The ones I DL just dont seem to

lime light
#

diminish

#

battlegroundenemies has one build in

#

sarena updated_2

livid wasp
#

now I lose

#

cause my team is fucking useless again

#

we get LH and mines they all try to take WW for some reason

#

failing at it

#

and we lose LH

#

why not double defend

#

how is it so hard

#

why are people stupid

clear bloom
#

why don't you just play mw if you mental boom everytime you lose.

#

would save you a lot of your hair.

low hazel
#

also diminish doesnt seem to do anything for me

#

id rather have the timers next to my target frame

livid wasp
#

there should be no punishment for leaving blitz games

livid wasp
#

now ill truly get stuck in elo hell

#

probably 1.8k or some shit mmr next game

clear pulsar
low hazel
livid wasp
#

fucking horrifying

low hazel
#

Ill try the other one

#

lfg it works. Ty!

livid wasp
#

10 loss streak inc probably

#

so much fun

#

woohoh

#

this is how I wanna spend my saturday evening

#

fucking ending up at 1.5k mmr or some shit

#

fucking elo hell

#

what a nice bracket

clear bloom
#

what keeps you playing the game if you aren't having fun

livid wasp
#

the thought of winning

clear bloom
low hazel
#

U should do some epic bgs to calm down

tropic schooner
clear bloom
#

fr actually epic bgs funny af.

tropic schooner
#

zechey would rage at world quests

low hazel
#

no way! ohno

tropic schooner
#

he rages in skirmishes

#

and duels

#

all hope is lost

livid wasp
#

whyw ould I do epic bgs theyre just laggy shit

tropic schooner
#

see

low hazel
#

it was a yoke

livid wasp
#

I just wanna hit 2.4k in blitz

#

but I cant

#

3 games of 0 rating gain

#

just heavy mmr drop

#

cause of shit comps and clowns

#

not following the objective

low hazel
#

Ive seen gladiators go from 2,4k, down to 1,9 then back up all the way to 2,7

#

all u can do is keep playing

clear bloom
#

they only get laggy in like first fight over hanger in isle of conquest and ashran gets kinda laggy throughout it randomly bc massive fight all the time.

livid wasp
#

no they always just win

#

I lose so much

#

its ridiculous

clear bloom
#

but av doesn't lag like ever

#

also fight over sr in wintergrasp laggy as shit but after that doesn't really lag anymore.

livid wasp
#

im streaming this next game, usually it helps me win

#

1.8k fc

#

mmr

#

aaew

#

holy shit

tiny oar
#

holy shit

livid wasp
#

stream helps

#

2 games won

#

cant lose when streaming

lament schooner
#

someone told me yesterday that feral is really beeg in arenas rn, is it my time to shine or am I being deceived

strange hawk
#

Shine away

clear pulsar
#

Ferals S++++++++++++ tier

lament schooner
#

nice

livid wasp
#

its really not

blazing rivet
#

axtin died, feral f tier

viscid remnant
#

feed

shy snow
#

lock wins again, nothing new

livid wasp
#

didnt you learn anything from last time

#

first they give them 2 wins, then they actually try, this makes the enemy tilt and they autowin the rest 2

blazing rivet
viscid remnant
#

they lost to oldman cdew? @stray sigil

stray sigil
robust vigil
clear pulsar
#

Just what everybody wants to hear

viscid remnant
#

@lime light i dc

lime light
#

ok

livid wasp
#

rogue discord?

#

dick discord

viscid remnant
#

disconnect

robust vigil
#

There's like 2-3 weirdos in druid discord who scrutinize and respond to every comment I make like we are dating. Everyone in rogue discord has been fine. 0 issues as of right now

livid wasp
#

theyll sap you and be obnoxious the first chance they get

robust vigil
livid wasp
#

tettleslul we only got this

#

oh react im stupid

#

forgot they exist

robust vigil
#

Wait

#

How come someone else can thumbs up and I can't LOL

livid wasp
#

a mod probably

robust vigil
#

Justice for the little guy

livid wasp
#

I just went back to look at my first messages on this channel and its the same people chatting 6 years ago as now

viscid remnant
#

we getting old

livid wasp
robust vigil
viscid remnant
#

only u and ep

livid wasp
#

and machtig

lime light
#

iam losing to 1500

#

jugle

#

priest running into lock and fury, cant die

livid wasp
#

why arent we playing kittycleave

viscid remnant
#

Sorry ep

#

0:33

#

Iam abit tired

lime light
#

yeah np

#

was good

livid wasp
#

couldve played kittycleave

lime light
#

ye feral is like lvl 110 class

#

why not

livid wasp
#

katzenspalten

#

ferals just okay

#

-1 saturday

#

didnt play katzenspalten

viscid remnant
#

idk

#

ep inv me there was some1 there already

#

unforch

livid wasp
#

thats a big shame

viscid remnant
#

i need to do world quest

#

i found out regular worldquest give blood token

robust vigil
livid wasp
#

I watch swifty for 1 minute and he complains about pvp balancing in retail while playing sod

#

as if classic pvp isnt fucked kek

#

all this hate over retail

velvet quest
#

zechey arent u like the biggest retail pvp hater if u think about it

livid wasp
#

I just hate losing

robust vigil
livid wasp
#

dunno I dont think it has ever been balanced

robust vigil
#

People just romanticize whatever nostalgic period was ideal for them

#

But was probably some other classes worst patch type beat???

livid wasp
#

I dont feel nostalgic to any pvp scene

#

its all the same shit

robust vigil
# livid wasp I dont feel nostalgic to any pvp scene

Sorry. Since you said it's never balanced. I was just asking like ....when you hear people say "PvP was so much better back in XY&Z" do you think that's probably just them romanticizing a time period because their particular spec was good type of thing

livid wasp
#

not sure

#

but some people seem to swear by classic pvp

#

even tho it looks like a disaster

#

and theres jus random bgs

robust vigil
#

Lol

livid wasp
#

or just bgs

robust vigil
#

Yeah

short charm
#

2.4 was so good, not every class worked but the ones that did were pretty balanced I think

robust vigil
#

I think even if you're a classic player

#

TBC would be alot better in many ways

#

Arena was introduced

#

Classes were a little more complex. You still had customizable talent trees it was before they took away talent trees and streamlined it all..but there wasn't too much button bloat yet and millions of CDs

#

I feel like even if you're nostalgic. TBC is better than classic in most measureable ways

short charm
#

I’d agree with that

livid wasp
#

didnt play back then, I havent heard many good things about tbc pvp tho

short charm
#

End of TBC was amazing, so many good 3v3 comps

robust vigil
#

Lol I was a ret paladin main and it was rough for me spec

#

But it was a fun time

#

I still liked the feel of my class better in TBC

short charm
#

Yeah ret struggled, could play with warrior and rsham

tropic schooner
tropic schooner
#

3s not all that popular

robust vigil
#

In cataclysm ret paladin had so many re works and changes it didn't it didn't resemble paladin anymore IMHO

tropic schooner
#

but ret/rshaman was playable

robust vigil
#

Was it? I played with my neighbor who was a boomy

short charm
#

3v3 was still big in TBC and WoTLK

tropic schooner
#

compared to 2s? before s7 not really

short charm
#

In s7 o think 2s was taken off the gladiator track

robust vigil
#

I hated 5s

tropic schooner
#

yes

robust vigil
#

I did 3s occasionally

#

2s were my jam

short charm
#

We did lots of 3s, but harder to get a good team

#

Even did 5s to 2500 lol

tropic schooner
#

sure some people did like people play rbg atm too

robust vigil
#

I personally liked WOTLK better than TBC but the button bloat was pretty bad

short charm
#

I guess your mind is made up, but 3s in TBC and rbg atm are not comparable

#

Was buzzing

robust vigil
#

So I can understand criticisms of wrath

#

DK was also busted when it was Introduced

short charm
#

Wrath s5 was a bit silly

robust vigil
#

You could play DK/DK in 2s and it was competitive

#

Lol

tropic schooner
#

not even sure if s5 ret/dk was more insane compared to tbc rogue

#

but all of those were busted

short charm
#

TBC rogue with glaives

tropic schooner
#

even before glaives

short charm
#

Games over when they press SnD

tropic schooner
#

could only win if you rng the stun resist

#

vs like lock/rogue or r/r

viscid remnant
#

Classic wow 2s

#

40min hpal warr mirrors

tropic schooner
#

tbc was worse

#

no timer

viscid remnant
#

True

robust vigil
#

In WOTLK I had a couple of 2s time out at 45 min lmao

tropic schooner
#

was it chan playing like 5 hour

robust vigil
#

Lmao

tropic schooner
#

1v1 and winning due to felhunter destroying armor

livid wasp
#

sounds fun

#

I would leave at 10 mins cause id be bored

viscid remnant
#

The main isssur with classic is the gearing

#

Raiding is just awfully boring

robust vigil
#

Tbh

#

I went through the writ of passage of leveling up back when it sucked

#

But I would never level in classic or TBC as an adult with more responsibilities and less time

#

I think I could do WOTLK with heirlooms and stuff and make it work

#

The YouTube content was S tier back then though.

viscid remnant
#

i leveled once with heirlooms and i put crusader on my weapon it was fairly easy

#

but the gearing is worse imo

tropic schooner
#

I like it

robust vigil
#

Oh you mean the grind for gear

#

I thought it felt rewarding but I can also understand wanting to make it more accessible

#

It felt so nice when you finally got an upgrade back then

viscid remnant
#

yea but also being stuck in a raid and rolling for gear is annoying

#

and i dont wanna commit to being in a guild eithr

robust vigil
#

Ninjas really ruin that experience too

#

Yeah

#

There were definitely hiccups in the system

tropic schooner
viscid remnant
#

iam poor

#

i saw gear go for stupid amounts of gold

tropic schooner
#

yes you saw the insane clip worthy ones

viscid remnant
#

that gets replaced after a few months

tropic schooner
#

that is not and was never the norm

viscid remnant
#

even justnormaly

#

not the reddit stuff

tropic schooner
#

what amount is stupid amounts for you?

robust vigil
#

The biggest thing I miss is just the feel of certain classes and it's hard to even put in words because there's so many small changes over time. That's why when I came back after being away I chose to main entirely different classes than I used to

#

Because I knew I'd get frustrated

#

So I'm just trying to treat wow like a different game entirely

viscid remnant
#

I would say 5k+ for an item

tropic schooner
#

well okay

#

you got like 5k during lvling

viscid remnant
#

Yea

#

1 time

#

Not for like 4 items

#

And trinkets go for even more

tropic schooner
#

how are you that poor

viscid remnant
#

Even u said

#

I dont wanna do hard labor to farm gear that gets replaced after 2 months

tropic schooner
#

if you do gdkps while you play you could easily do it, assuming you dont want all shit week 1

#

but ofc do need a bit to get in and not dip once you have gear

#

but for classic gearing I personally do like gdkp quite a lot

viscid remnant
#

I dont think gold should be that tied to gear

#

Maybe a couple crafted items

#

Idont like that

tropic schooner
#

I dont think id like it in retail either

#

but for classic I think its good

#

if you play can get most items you want if you spend a lot on it, which you will likely have when playing normally

#

and even if youd lose an item you really want it doesnt feel that bad (compared to losing a roll) cause you will get some more gold you could spend on it if it drops again

viscid remnant
#

I want to get gear and q up

#

Not do a raid every week

tropic schooner
#

yea I understand

#

its fair

#

I still like some pve gear in pvp

#

but can understand not liking

viscid remnant
#

I think what is there on retail rn is pretty good

#

Idont like pve items in pvp

clear pulsar
#

I think current situation is pretty good yeah

viscid remnant
#

If theyre not balanced

clear pulsar
#

Especially with the crafts being totally separate as well

#

Only catalyst charge is shared

#

But doing one still helps you out for the other in the first couple weeks I think that's cool

tropic schooner
#

yea its okay

#

I do prefer this over the legion version at least

short charm
#

It’s good right now I’d say. Similar legion because you can’t use PVE gear really and PVP gear is well gated. Just gives you some options over secondaries

#

Overall I think TWW is a great expansion so far

viscid remnant
#

True

#

Other than shuffle mmr

clear pulsar
tropic schooner
#

legion you literally only cared about max ilvl

#

you didnt are about where items came from, or which stats they had

#

you had stat templates which scaled with ilvl

viscid remnant
#

Im toobad

#

To play that

short charm
tiny oar
#

good morning fellow druid gamers

strange hawk
#

Good night for me

clear pulsar
#

@viscid remnant big card tonight

#

Wonderboy got knocked out Sadeg

vestal citrus
#

hes old as fuck

strange yarrow
#

Looking for a Feral for 3's FMP Glad push - I have Legend experience. Need to communicate and be able to discuss any losses for improvement. Current CR is 1674

safe heart
#

im playing jungle with some other guys but can play with u guys also probably

strange yarrow
safe heart
#

i did

molten zodiac
#

Does anyone have the twitch clip of the boomy hitting a 6mil wrath trying to figure out the combo

molten zodiac
#

Was some streamer showing it in a duel in dornogal by the pvp dummies

#

It was like 2-3 days ago snupy watched it on stream

#

I actually could be mistaken and it was bicmex instead going to scour thru his vods

random patrol
#

prob using all the wrath dam talents and some random open world thing

vestal citrus
#

yer

viscid remnant
#

Just saw the poatan finish

#

I thought he would ko in the first or 2nd

polar nymph
#

Greetings boring people

tardy hare
#

Greetings traveler

lime light
#

sehr geehrte damen und herren

#

willkommen in EP's discord

livid wasp
#

why does enemy get a comp like this

lime light
#

one semi decent mw in your team

#

and its free win

livid wasp
#

my team

#

like we have it goijng good

#

then they let them ninjacap twice

#

in fucking battle for gilneas

#

idiots

#

why do I always get the clown team of clueless people

#

and letting one guy alone at LH

#

with two rogues on their side

#

and this same DH who left the one guy alone at LH getting ninjacapped complaining on chat

#

this feels so god damn shit

#

it was clearly a win they fucking sucked ass

#

but my team is full of idiots

viscid remnant
livid wasp
#

katzenspalten?

viscid remnant
#

schmetterling

livid wasp
#

schmuck

tiny oar
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hmm

viscid remnant
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i NEED to go clean and stuff

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maybe in a bit

wary stirrup
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People that change their pfp every day scare me

lime light
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EP's pfp is like that

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for 40 years

viscid remnant
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okiam logging

livid wasp
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are we gonna play it

wary stirrup
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ok but when is blizzard bringing back rated 5v5

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@viscid remnant

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we locking in with zechey?

tropic schooner
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Never

wary stirrup
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rude

viscid remnant
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mygame crash @lime light

wary stirrup
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He typed /diminish

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Absurd defiance

strange hawk
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@wary stirrup I said no alts yesterday but 2 rdruids isn’t fun anymore. Going to start my rsham

wary stirrup
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Bro just play hpal or disc

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Why are you doing this to yourself

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My rdruid is still 70 lmao

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Just jump around pressing holy shocks and wogs and having fun

lime light
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last game the dmg that feral

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was taking

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was PogCat

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they had to wall ps opener

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and then insta 2nd pain

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my favorite

wary stirrup
livid wasp
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yeah

lime light
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also lowkey

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i think that team is also

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rly sick with ret

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double pala feral

strange hawk
wary stirrup
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Then play hpal

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You just pve heal and steed for a hoj sometimes

strange hawk
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Depends on how fast 60-70 is

wary stirrup
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Fast

strange hawk
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That’s good atleast

tiny oar
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play rdru

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crush ur enemies

clear pulsar
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Real

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And

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True

strange hawk
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I am rdruid, just want to try something different when I’m tired of it

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It’s all I’ve really played since SL

clear pulsar
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So based

viscid remnant
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poland

strange hawk
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I had to google what based means

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I guess I am indeed based

lime light
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i will eat soon and can play again

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everyone and their mom is a feral in this game

livid wasp
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fotm rolling should be prohibited by law

lime light
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true

livid wasp
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but luckily theyre all shit cause feral takes skill to play

lime light
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no