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tropic schooner
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yea

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they do be huge

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I hate flying to try to find treasures

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gotta do that on way too many chars

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6/4 loot and 5/2 treatise

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we do a bit of cheesing

late wraith
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what's that addon

tropic schooner
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permoks alt manager

livid wasp
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skirms are unhealthy

late wraith
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ty

tropic schooner
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dont need to continue the skirmishes

livid wasp
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nothing else to play

late wraith
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get real into making gold

tropic schooner
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^

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oh god

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zechey would tilt

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so hard

late wraith
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his first big loss

tropic schooner
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or fuck up

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I managed to sell several of the mop panthers for like 5g each

late wraith
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dude i got owned on rousing ire last season right towards the end

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i just threw it up and didn't look

sly marsh
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i searched “complain” bc I wanted to do a version of this copypasta but I just saw this and it made me laugh and I wanted to let you know okay goodbye now

livid wasp
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I dont care about gold

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I care about prestige

late wraith
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i put them up for like 1g a piece 😦

sly marsh
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anyways

WAKE UP
OFFTOPIC POST IN #pvp
GO TO SLEEP

livid wasp
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I want to be known as one of the best ferals

tropic schooner
livid wasp
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man I faced zechey hes so good

sly marsh
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zechey taught me feral and now I’m r1

livid wasp
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its ok we lost its zechey

tropic schooner
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could undercut for ~+60k

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but not gonna post that

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so about 100k assuming it sells

late wraith
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the mats are too expensive for that i think that'd be a loss for me

tropic schooner
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I am not crafting that

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I just buy

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crafting those feels not worth

late wraith
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a little over a million i'm still baby

tropic schooner
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but if carapace and hide is similar in price its worth

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the other thing is basically free

late wraith
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1.2 i'm growin

livid wasp
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like in skirms theres no rating to reach im just chasing that satisfied feeling of winning people I feel who are decent but im not really getting it

tropic schooner
livid wasp
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glorp

late wraith
tropic schooner
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tbh amber price

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barely matters

late wraith
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listen i'm cooking my crushed gems plan

tropic schooner
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with amber?

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got my doubts

velvet quest
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beavs just got in so much trouble

late wraith
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mayo just ratted me out

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he knows i'm tanking a dungeon and saw me typing in here and he told on me

tropic schooner
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hope you report him

late wraith
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mayo's a little rat

velvet quest
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@stray sigil look how she bullies me

stray sigil
tiny oar
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smileBlush hugtransfem I try my best

tiny oar
sly marsh
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It’s a thing

tiny oar
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relationship involving more than 2 people, non-monogamous

haughty compass
random patrol
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throuples as well

sly marsh
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2 people :: couple
3+ people :: polycule

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also throuple

haughty compass
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Old people are going to have some crazy stories in like 30-40 years

sly marsh
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🪱

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👆🏼

tiny oar
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i know, but i'll give you a non-bait answer in that its a couple different things (its not that my girlfriend isn't enough for me)

  1. we both discovered we were bisexual pretty late in life and never had any experiences with a guy (not all bi people are poly it's just something we want to try)
  2. we both have a lot of love and care to give and mutually agree that it shouldn't be restricted to just one person
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thank you smileBlush

velvet quest
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2s duo LF 3rd for glad push

tiny oar
velvet quest
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oh wait i was just making an analogy

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but yes do that too

tiny oar
sly marsh
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Lolol

tiny oar
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UR SO FR%CKING FUNNY MAYO

velvet quest
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"glad" haha get it

tiny oar
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🤣

random patrol
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moose rogue

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I like it

tiny oar
finite bay
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How is everyone feeling about the changes to Boomy in PVP?

late wraith
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which ones

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less starfire more surge?

hard lagoon
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hard to feel good when 95% of skirms end cuz everyone els3e gets to blast

random patrol
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feels fine

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leeing into more surge spam maybe who knows I expect some more nerfs for everything down the line

finite bay
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Yeah, just the changes in general. Shit felt way better in Dragon Flight ngl

late wraith
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we don't have tier or anything yet

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it'll be fine

finite bay
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I hear you.

random patrol
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a lot of stuff will be nerfed once the season has started or even before right now it's just q unrated and meme really

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get the saltwater

late wraith
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where is it feeling bad skirms? bgs?

finite bay
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Just hitting the pvp dummy and trying to burst.

late wraith
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what hero talents are you doing?

finite bay
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Treeants

regal cipher
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feral bleeds smacking

late wraith
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i mean it's a super hard comparison because no tier just in honor gear so it'll feel off compared to end of last season

finite bay
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yeah, that's a good point.

hard lagoon
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idk seems everyone actually does things

unkempt wind
tiny oar
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the goat

lone lintel
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Anyone know why this isnt working?

#showtooltip Cyclone
/cast [@harm,exists] Cyclone
/cast [@arena1] Cyclone

Basically want it to Cyclone my target if I'm not in arena, otherwise it Cyclones Arena1

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that for sure doesn't work

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oh?

graceful elm
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/cast [@harm,exists] Cyclone ; [@arena1] Cyclone

does this work

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no space before the ;

lone lintel
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nah not working either

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/cast [@arena1,harm][@target] Cyclone this works

random patrol
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ret or arms/fury hmm

foggy spindle
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How to maintain cc with feral in retаil 3v3 more easy? I try bash -> cast cyclone but usualy other arena enemies interrupt my cast. In classic wow where is instant feel soo easy. I've been playing retail for a while now and it feels much harder to cc here

weak moon
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hope one of your teammates chains off your bash

raven otter
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is it worht it to craft wsomething with spark or wait for the pvp items to be avail?

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yeah thats why im asking , not 100% how this works.

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i think if u use spark now = bad

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wait = good

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is that the synopsis?

raven otter
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thx

fast kraken
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How to deal against broken prevoker as rdruid ??

livid wasp
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they feel pretty broken

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gotta lvl up mine

fast kraken
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Loool i dont understand how they're not nerfed already its stupid af

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Whyyy

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Do they even have a weakness ?

livid wasp
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roots?

fast kraken
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Lmao rip

livid wasp
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I just hate shroud

fast kraken
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Shroud is one of the many busted things about them

livid wasp
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its so stupid

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if you dont have a dispeller on your team its so broken

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how are you supposed to put out pressure when you cant cc them

fast kraken
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"A bit"

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Really is

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Insane dmg, solid heals, cc, mobility, shroud, remove hots, probably other stuff

tiny oar
tropic schooner
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god the macros which were posted here

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gave me an aneurysm

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yes

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all of the clone ones

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also the part which no one mentioned, those macros could be a bit awkward in bgs

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but yea this macro should work but its a bit ugly

/Cast [@arena1,harm][] Cyclone``` a bit cleaner
clear pulsar
haughty compass
fast kraken
haughty compass
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The mastery. You heal more if your hp is higher than the target you are healing

fast kraken
haughty compass
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Their hp will go and mastery will return to full?

The idea would be to bait small cds because they have a lot of them

chrome panther
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Evoker still blizzards greatest mistake

clear pulsar
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The question was

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Does their mastery always apply to themselves, or never?

haughty compass
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I believe it’s all healing, but that’s actually a good question

clear pulsar
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Wowhead comment says it works on themselves full time @fast kraken

livid wasp
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devoker pumps so damn hard in skirms too

haughty compass
clear pulsar
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Shoulda seen axtin last night

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He was pumping even harder

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But yeah seems like swapping is a good idea

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Maybe

livid wasp
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I took a look at his vod

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premadeing with a spriest

tiny oar
clear pulsar
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You would be so much happier

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Allowed to feel joy

ivory canopy
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Any opinions about what healer is best for a feral druid?

safe heart
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I'll be playing feral and sp so I get to auto win all season it'll be so poggers it's unreal

fast kraken
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how to not be oom as rdruid lol

safe heart
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Drink water

fast kraken
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XD any spells I shouldnt use or almost never use to avoid being oom ?

stray sigil
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so pres

ivory canopy
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Tuning aside though

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Like are there any that are historically good combos

clear pulsar
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There's no tuning aside

stray sigil
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good combos almost always matter cuz of tuning

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historically priest is good with feral

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but if priest is dogshit

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it doesnt matter

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also will prob differ on players

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i always prefered hpals

clear pulsar
stray sigil
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but its not really the best with feral per say

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just works with how i play more

clear pulsar
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Especially if you're talking 2v2 it's just the land of whatever's more op

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Hpriest was great with feral when... hpriest was great

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Etc

ivory canopy
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Hm okay gf plays cat so the deal is she heals our 3's and I heal 2's and blitz so trying to pick what I wanna level to heal her cat druiding lol

clear pulsar
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Rn evoker is pretty bonkers

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And avoided nerfs against all odds this first pass

stray sigil
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every healer is fine

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rsham kinda not rly that insane with feral though

clear pulsar
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I think hpriest is complete shit rn but it's prob getting buffed

ivory canopy
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I was looking at evoker since I kinda liked how dev felt when I leveled it. Sounds like I might go disc though based on what people are saying

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Would also give me access to holy if that ends up good

sly marsh
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If you like Evoker then player Evoker imo

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The newest class is always good

stray sigil
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i think disc feral looks kinda damp but mayb its good still

ivory canopy
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I've never played evoker

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Just leveled one to 70 for the sake of having one

stray sigil
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pres is so fucked up rn its def pres fersl

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until tuning

ivory canopy
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Maybe I'll do pres second after I level my old reliable healer

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ty for the input

stray sigil
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hpal most fun though

haughty compass
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pres feral = me and who?

stray sigil
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zechey

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only feral left

fast kraken
sly marsh
fast kraken
clear pulsar
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Are all the people calling it windstalker bots or alts of the same 1 persson

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Or what

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Surely yall can read

tropic schooner
clear pulsar
fast kraken
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ok thanks and what are all the ways to proc free regrowth ?

sly marsh
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lifebloom ticks

fast kraken
sly marsh
fast kraken
safe heart
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Just read the picture?

livid wasp
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why are they nerfing dracthyr racials but not touching nelf racials

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they acknowledge the problem

random patrol
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cause having to on use cds is pretty freaking good, they will prob eventually get to nelf

fast kraken
haughty compass
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Updated stormrage set 👀

fast kraken
safe heart
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Remove the class

haughty compass
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No don’t

chrome panther
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Please do

late wraith
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@clear pulsar what do you think about updated t2 mog? i am very excited for druid i think it looks so gooood

clear pulsar
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I like druid, i LOOOOOOVE the warrior one

late wraith
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i really like monk

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they crushed it with monk

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druid i think is an insane glow up though

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like dang

tropic schooner
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hm gotta figure out how to bear

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guardian feels especially bad in skirmishes atm

bleak copper
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for feral what are the best stats in tww?

sly marsh
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verse mastery

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then haste then crit

golden ruin
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how many glyphs exists for moonkin form? and where can i find them

clear pulsar
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There's astral form which you can buy on the AH

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And there are 2 unlockables from Amidrassil raid

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That's all

smoky nova
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Hi everyone, I was wondering, is there a trick to get bloodtalons, out of only 1 or 2 Combo point generator
I seem to be seeing that on Axtin VOD, what am I missing ?

bleak copper
safe heart
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You can like thrash rake ff and proc it

smoky nova
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even counting the feral frenzy

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he just uses rake shred and he has it

livid wasp
smoky nova
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or sometimes just rake !

livid wasp
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5 min cd

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different options

smoky nova
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I don't understand how he does it

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can I link the video with timeset as to show what I'm talking about ?

livid wasp
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most ridiculous thing was the 2% increased miss chance against nelf

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I missed so many maims and bashes cause of the 2% miss chance

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and when I complained about it people were like just get 2% more hit rating

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just for nelves yeah

sly marsh
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nelf is op

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what exactly would be my limitations going from horde to ally on my druid? My understanding is that most stuff is cross faction now

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can’t trade gold with my horde alts, can’t do random BGs with horde friends?

wanton ridge
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people queuing for follower dungeons after they realize they're in trouble should be thrown in a special jail watching teletubbies on repeat 24/7

safe heart
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But yeah link it

smoky nova
livid wasp
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its a bug dont overthink it

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sometimes first rake gives it sometimes it doesnt

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I mean mostly it doesnt but sometimes it does

lofty pike
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Anyone recommend a good beginner resto PvP guide? YouTube or something? I'm good with DPS/arena/BG's, just brand new to resto so learning priorities and just beginner crap would help

smoky nova
# livid wasp its a bug dont overthink it

well that's just that I suppose, too begin I surely won't be able to check if my bloodtalons bugged to get some increase in damage.
Thanks for the answer I'll stick with a 3 CP generator route then

clear pulsar
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But yeah it doesnt rly matter, if you're opening hard you just rake moonfire FF + berserk

tropic schooner
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@late wraith I really have the issue with goldmaking that I spend too much gotta force myself to stoer stuff on some bank somewhere tettleslul

quaint rapids
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i remember something along those lines worked at one point

late wraith
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And then I get bored halfway through

tropic schooner
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I dont really get bored

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I just buy more

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and more

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like right now im really tempted to grab some of the 250k I stored on my warbank to gamble with r3 leather

late wraith
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i just feel like to really be good at it that sort of has to be your whole thing no?

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like i basically just sat there refreshing ah on the 4 things i'm tracking yesterday

tropic schooner
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wym

late wraith
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and then said fuck it and went gathering

tropic schooner
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well for flipping

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you gotta be somewhat patient

late wraith
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for the shuffle shit i'm trying to do i need prices to be kind of specific yeah

tropic schooner
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which im not

late wraith
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yeah same lol

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it really is annoying cause i got it to work so good that one time and now i'm chasing that high

tropic schooner
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I also dont really have enough liquid gold to really do that atm imo

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but my theory with r3 leather is

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that we should get new patron orders tomorrow

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which I believe will make stuff rise

late wraith
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the new parton orders really make shit go crazy

tropic schooner
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especially the r3 shit

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also setting up my LW to craft r3

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fairly easy

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and kinda "doubles" my profit because Im not selling as much as I could craft in crystalfused leather

late wraith
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i think @velvet quest gave that a go

tropic schooner
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which part?

velvet quest
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i tried making the stuff u were making but none of it sold

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it was profitable if it sold but i think ive listed 6 times and sold 2 out of 50

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i got annoyed and decided to 10% undercut and then those didnt sell either

tropic schooner
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eh disagree

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should be patron work order reset

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saturday

velvet quest
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but i think its fine cause long term im prob gonna be a concentration for r3 crafter and make gold that way? idk

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i have 20 tailors so the LW was just a little experiment

tropic schooner
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setting up 20 tailors

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yikes

pulsar gorge
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Hey guys is going Nelf mandatory? I'm tauren and all my chars are in a horde server 😦

tropic schooner
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no

velvet quest
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watching sopranos while setting up tailors, ill be done with s5 by the time my last char is finished

tropic schooner
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I think I set like 6 or 7 chars up

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longterm? prolly not

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its just some initial like 2-3h time

velvet quest
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but my ideal gold making is like log in once a week and click a button and make some stuff to put on AH and swap to next char, even if the margins are thin im fine with this

tropic schooner
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and then just login every 3-4 days

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and make prolly 10k

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its not insane profits but only some initial setup yea kinda like imssion table

velvet quest
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i started shadowlands

tropic schooner
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btw hides still sell

velvet quest
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yeah nowadays people are fiending for the smallest crumbs

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i see people spam trade chat saying theyre selling dragon riding glyphs achievement like huh

safe heart
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Send tilde pics

tame fiber
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Anyone have a feral druid pvp talents update they could share?

livid wasp
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CcGAqvgeoHLefPLb/Pa8nkKXDBAAAAAAjZ2sMzgZMzsNbjBzMjZmBAAAAAYJgZMMMzMTmxwMzM2mxsxAAAAAAAYgBAAEgAgZZmtmtZW2gxMA nice talents

safe heart
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DHICO8jbj/so9Usi89snnnkso2mdkiJJJDN3ju28jkkhsbjiikkabbxnj&jjjidid8hhbdnopppisjnsnnsj

I like this one better tbh

tame fiber
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tyty

velvet quest
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@tropic schooner worst get rich scheme ive ever done VerySadCat

random patrol
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meanwhile as an engineer

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thank heavens I dont even bother leveling it

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skinning ftw

cosmic ore
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what the crack, i just tried pvp out as i want to dip into it this expansion.. Getting hit by this in bg, is it intended like to do this much dmg? Got a 4,5m curse of agony hit on details at one point too

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makes sense then

random patrol
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I wouldn't take anything preseason or early season 1 seriously, so many bugs and untuned shit running around

cosmic ore
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kk :p

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what looks most promising of feral and boomie so far?

random patrol
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chicken

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currently the best chicken build uses the trees at 80 but who knows what will happen soon

cosmic ore
random patrol
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yep

cosmic ore
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oh they actually do good dmg as well?

random patrol
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yeah your mostly using it for dreamburst

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the treant dam is not as important especially since it's prob better to use the health increase for them

cosmic ore
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now im actually looking in the pins for the build and stuff but cant seem to find it

unreal stirrup
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Man BGs have been awful tonight. Every game has been half my team full of fresh 80s. This one however Im so confused holy pally with full CLOTH gear like wah?

random patrol
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Ill get the code for it in a sec once I log in

cosmic ore
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oh yea okay awesome!

unreal stirrup
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CYGAqvgeoHLefPLb/Pa8nkKXDBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWGFMzMmhZGwMGzMmNDLMYmZZGLzYmZmx2MGzMDzGYhBYssNzy22MLzyMNzsMTBAgAYjZYA

Thats the code

random patrol
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there we go

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ty

cosmic ore
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nice, just read through the hero talents and now it all makes sense what you're talking about with burst 😄

sly marsh
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boomie stronger than feral? say it ain’t so doctor

vocal radish
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did servers crash?

quaint rapids
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Rude

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I got to 1800

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:^)

random patrol
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good chickens are horrifying, 90 percent of chickens don't know how to play though

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mosty boomies can't even clone properly

quaint rapids
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As feral, I hate clone

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Boomy doesn't even have to break form

random patrol
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just wait until wod classic

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then you can in catform

quaint rapids
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I don't play classic. I'm a legion baby so I have zero nostalgia for the game pre qol

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I mean classic in general but yea

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I don't feel like I'm missing anything

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What I AM MISSING is my mage tower skins

polar nymph
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Surprised there's no felcat skin

quaint rapids
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As opposed too?

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I mean they're doing okay after last patch

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I wish I could customize my car forms the same way

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Also, where lynx form

unreal stirrup
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I just hate that the one boomy form I want to unlock is locked behind an RNG raid drop. As far as Im aware can't really solo it currently as well. 😦

quaint rapids
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At least it's all difficulties

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You could probably find groups to fill it weekly on normal/heroics

unreal stirrup
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Eh maybe but at the same time if I can't stand looking for groups for current content can't imagine myself doing it for prior content. xD

calm pilot
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im tired of this balance of power questline.....

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just give me the ursol skin already

tiny oar
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I AGREE

unreal stirrup
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Lawl looks like the quest to start the War Within campaign is busted. Bunch of people stuck trying to talk to Thrall as he phases out as soon as you see him. xD

lone lintel
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how is feral PVP feeling for you guys? Maybe I'm doing something wrong but if I dont have zerk up I feel like I'm doing no damage and constantly out of energy

polar nymph
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Like, are you just biting a target the whole time or are you playing for bleeds?

lone lintel
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I for sure find myself biting less than I thought I would, I never have the energy for it outside of zerk if I'm trying to keep dots up

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I've been doing skirm and it feels like I'm at 30% whenever I finish the opener in 2s even if I open with barkskin

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Its the regular opener, tigers fury - rake - zerk - frenzy - swarm - moonfire - rip

polar nymph
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Bleed em up and run.

clear pulsar
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You're gonna have more energy if you dont throw TF away at full before casting any other spel

polar nymph
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Savage Momentum can help too against casters

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It also means more vines

clear pulsar
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Love savage momentum

safe heart
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i am

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well

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i kinda like having tf with stealth rake tho

edgy shale
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no

polar nymph
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Since it's calculated over 5 hits.

safe heart
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can just press in stealth and then apply everything with tf up, idk, feels nice

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i dont have problems with the energy that much

jaunty root
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are he going haste vere this season or mastery vers for resto?

fair seal
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Hey all

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Quick question.. are resto druids trash right now in pvp? I am feeling really underpowered

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I was doing mastery

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I seem to do alright in BG's but I have been doing arena Skirms and getting tossed

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I just seem to do worse than most other healers

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what hero talents do you use?

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Yeah pres is insane

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all I see are priests, resto shams, pres evokers, coupled with warriors and DKs

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you talking about Keepers of the grove?

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I feel like right now I am fighting an uphill battle

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Do you use verdent infusion or prosperity for the 2 Swiftmend charges

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The issue I have been having is when they swap

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once my CD's are down it is really hard to pivot and get all my hots rolling on another target to get that mastery stack

clear pulsar
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Wildstalker clears

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In arena

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Very easily

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Kotg is shit ong

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Yeah

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Treant one idk its ok but wildstalker makes swiftmend an inhuman button

fair seal
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I just made some changes to the symbiotic bloom talents

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lets see how that changes my healing throughput

clear pulsar
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Just cast wg then

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Extend the one from overgrowth etc

fair seal
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I think extending the hots isn't going to be as useful right now because people are dying so fast

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even with a full row of hots on a target, against a fury war or a DK I feel like I need to be spanning regrowth

clear pulsar
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Thats beside the point

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Extending WG is good because its a cd that you cant maintain 100% but you want the hot rolling for vine proc

safe heart
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queue into so many ferals now

tiny oar
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I s2g there's no way I'm playing VI anymore with new tier and prosperity idk

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  • implant symbiotic bloom every mend
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I think prosperity is CRANKED

fair seal
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seems like the jury is out on verdict vs prosperity

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Things will change also ad conq gear becomes available

zenith swan
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I've been trying to find good resources for TWW moonkin pvp info, I've been trying out KotG spec with full mastery and seeing great results in skirms so far. Just wanna look at talent builds and embellishments to see what I can improve

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Man dropping trees then getting a lot of wraths from a convoke is crazy burst I love it

random patrol
#

orc dk has totem still from when it was a cow

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can never swap weapons now

hushed hollow
#

Guys how is resto dudu doing i pvp atm? i am returning after 14 years to wow and cant decide between dpriest and rdudu as pvp heal

burnt merlin
#

just like dpriest 🙂

hushed hollow
# burnt merlin good and fun

i am bit confused how they changed tree form (i played wotlk as last expansion) cant imagine not be able to be in treeal..all the time

burnt merlin
cosmic ore
#

Yo guys, my friend is saying he think there is some crafted pvp gear that is better than 626 honor gear.
Is he right about that and i can't seem to find it or is honor gear just the best before conquest gear?

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okay, ill keep it out of my mind for now then :D. Today is the day the real pvp journey starts for me.

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I assume cross faction signup for bg/arenas is not a thing right? Like in the LFD tool

livid wasp
#

god I love these skirm partners who do 1/5 of anyones dmg

civic apex
#

Hello i am having problems in PvP arenas that i am going OOM extremely fast. Is it just me or anyone else experiencing this?

lofty pike
#

any resto pvp streamers you guys would recommend?

queen drift
#

Minpojke but he's playing his priest rn

terse zephyr
#

Does anyone have any tips for feral in epic bgs? Can't really go in like a paladin as no bubble so I just moonfire and look for people who are out of the pack/herd and stealth then but it just feels awful

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Feels like I'm a speedbump half the time ThumbsUp

safe heart
#

its an epic bg bro

queen drift
#

just play mk lol

tropic schooner
#

also believing a pala can just go into a group of enemies

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melee in epic bgs just kinad miserable

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feral/rogue even the best by far due to stealth

cosmic ore
tropic schooner
#

@late wraith gotta start to actually set some stuff up with tsm

#

for recrafting my LW shit

livid wasp
#

dunno dk in bgs isnt that bad

late wraith
tropic schooner
#

yea im planning to use it to stock up on recrafts for all the different hides

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cause ill forget to craft them

late wraith
#

I also think I need to consolidate a little. Instead of logging into the tailor and searching tailor shit I need a buyer/seller alt

tropic schooner
#

I actually dont have that atm

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doesnt really feel that needed in last 2 expansions (however didnt really do that much in DF)

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was doing that more when spam cancel scanning legos during SL

late wraith
#

It’s just all the other shit in my bags that annoys me. This is a dumb annoyance and I’m pretty sure I can black list stuff but I have a bunch of mats I’ll buy that I don’t want to sell but when I have bags of shit to sell I sometimes mindlessly click post on everything in tsm

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Like I appreciate tsm trying to get me to sell shiny bobbles and grey items for copper to clowns who don’t know about vendors but I also don’t really want to sell this shit

velvet quest
#

@tropic schooner new scheme just dropped, i spent all my gold and hours last night leveling engi cause i couldnt find cheap multicraft tools for my 23 tailors. i put some spare ones on AH for 5k and they sold really fast so im gonna make a bunch of these and spread them around on the big servers

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gonna be rich

tropic schooner
#

yea makes sense

#

I found out that engi mats are quite nice for afk crafting

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no amazing gp/h but prolly like 30-40k (if not more) and just full on press button do shit move mouse

cosmic ore
#

any got a good plater profile for pvp? i got some pve andy ones that dont show roles on the bar

late wraith
#

wdym roles on the bar

calm pilot
#

My ultimate PvP dream is to enter a 40 man bg with another guardian Druid and 2 v 40 the whole enemy team while the rest of my team back caps 🧢

cosmic ore
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like so i can more easily tell who is the healers in a bg for example

late wraith
#

i thiiiink in plater you can give them a little glow if they're a healer

cosmic ore
#

ah yea okay ill go fiffle with the setting.. the addon does not work with plater?

late wraith
#

which addon

sly marsh
#

THE addon

snow phoenix
#

How much important is tierset for pvp on rdruid? Can I ditch it if I focus on pve?

cosmic ore
late wraith
#

plater works pretty well with all other addons

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i use it as my primary nameplate addon along with bigdebuffs and nameplatecooldowns

cosmic ore
#

i meant forget what i said haha

late wraith
#

got it got it

cosmic ore
#

kk might try the nameplatecd

late wraith
#

that one is good but i don't really do like epic bgs or anything like that

random patrol
#

tldr, 1950 for weapon enchant and glad mount comes in dif color depending on faction

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sill 1950 for weapon enchant is good

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I have not seen it no

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inb4 someone wants to gatekeep the enchant being lowered

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more people playing to get an easier reward> harder and less people qing

hexed obsidian
#

ello

livid wasp
#

why do people queue skirms as a premade

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its just unfair

late wraith
#

wdym it's not fair. what are you queuing skirms for if not to practice shit zechey

livid wasp
#

but youre just facing people who arent a premade and facerolling them

late wraith
#

okay but tell me why it matters

#

tell me what you're getting out of skirms. why do you go into skirms

livid wasp
#

I put myself into the shoes of joe who is bad at pvp and wants to get the weekly quest done

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then he queues into snupy and this ww on voice

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and they oneshot him

late wraith
#

so they go again.

livid wasp
#

its just bullshit

late wraith
#

it's not all high level people in there

livid wasp
#

skirm premades should be put up against other skirm premades

velvet quest
#

if ur trying to do the skirm quest its better to lose fast than to lose slow

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snupy is doing joe a favor

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snupy a real one

late wraith
#

you lose nothing but time losing a skirm like it's a non issue

#

you're complaining about something that's just not a problem.

livid wasp
#

he has 400 viewers he could be arranging some nice community shuffle but hes just killing noobs in skirmish

#

idk whats so fun about that

tropic schooner
late wraith
#

yeah simply stop watching him do that if you're so affected.

#

you do this shit to yourself

livid wasp
#

its just fucked people do it

tropic schooner
#

it isnt

livid wasp
#

knowing its unfair to the opponents

late wraith
#

you do things and watch things specifically to make yourself mad at air.

tropic schooner
#

no one besides you cares

velvet quest
#

what is unfair about wow pvp

#

is he cheating/exploiting?

tropic schooner
#

skirmishes

livid wasp
#

no but its just unfair

tropic schooner
#

ITS FUCKING SKIRMISHES

velvet quest
#

if you farm full honor gear and you queue against an undergeared player are you being unfair too zechey?

late wraith
#

it's skirmishes lol. to be unfair there'd have to be some sort of real loss when you lose.

#

there is not.

#

so fairness is irrelevant.

tropic schooner
#

but its a 2-3 minute game

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where you dont constantly meet the same people

livid wasp
#

I mean thats pvp but at least im not quing with a R1 WW that could probably almost solo every game

tropic schooner
#

its just a complete none issue

livid wasp
#

I lose a lot cause I get such random team mates

late wraith
#

i guess it's just kind of a not real problem. like you simply go again. if you lost rating or mmr then yeah sure. but you are simply losing time.

livid wasp
#

then I face these fucks quing as a premade

late wraith
#

maybe it is unfair but it's just such a non issue

#

come to na, you can queue into littlebean and pistachio. you'll love it.

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i'll die in the opener, pistachio will pull off a win but it'll be super annoying.

velvet quest
#

Wait zechey did snupy queue into you? Is that why you’re mad?

livid wasp
#

nah but every time I look at him hes queuing skirms with some random players seeing how long of a win streak he can get

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so much fun killing noobs with a tryhard premade haheae

tropic schooner
#

zechey you are special

livid wasp
#

I just think skirms should be solo queue only

late wraith
#

zechey wants a pvp mode that's just him walking into an arena with 1 other person. it's also a feral. they are evenly matched. same gear, same personality type. it's another zechey.

livid wasp
#

you dont get it

late wraith
#

what don't i get

tropic schooner
#

it

late wraith
#

oh fair enough

#

probably true tbh

livid wasp
#

2s are for premade queuing

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skirms are solo

tropic schooner
#

nah 2s should be solo queued

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premade is unfair

#

only skirmish premade

livid wasp
#

2s is always premade

tropic schooner
#

yea unfair

livid wasp
#

why?

tropic schooner
#

who knows

late wraith
#

unfair cause sometimes pikaboo is in there

#

and he kills me?

#

and that's unfair imo

tropic schooner
#

TRUE

livid wasp
#

yeah well he will get to his own mmr

#

you will face opponents of your mmr level

tropic schooner
#

if I stop meming for a sec

#

I do think that it is kinda shitty from pika

#

like what he does is imo a LOT worse

safe heart
#

I just went like 15-1 as jungle in skirms

livid wasp
#

smurfing is like what I feel like snupy is doing

tropic schooner
#

not that I care too much about it but if you cmoplain about that guy playing skirmishes premade you should care a lot more about pika playing with low mmr ppl

late wraith
#

i mean i genuinely don't care plus if he's streaming we get good content of him calling one or both of us a dingus which is very good

#

yes ty

velvet quest
#

So the people who play with their friends shouldn’t be allowed to pvp this week

tropic schooner
#

correct

#

just duel

#

absolutely illegal to play skirmishes

velvet quest
livid wasp
#

just make it so that if you queue skirmish as a premade you will face another premade

#

its the best solution

tropic schooner
#

nope

#

makes q time long

#

for absolutely no fucking reason

velvet quest
#

Zechey wants reverse early access arena for people with friends is that based or what?

tropic schooner
#

this has to be one of zecheys worst takes

livid wasp
#

well if I queued premade skirm I would want it to be challenging and not two random people

velvet quest
#

If you queued premade skirm and want it to be challenging you’d be like oops queued wrong thing it was supposed to be arena, leave that

late wraith
#

in the regular season very few r1s are queuing skirms though?

tropic schooner
#

IF that would happen frequently sure id agree

#

but it just doesnt happen often

safe heart
#

I queued into bronzer 3x

#

In skirms

velvet quest
#

I feel like the entirety of the problem is no content to do, like does this ever happen during season?

#

I guess not cause zechey wouldn’t queue skirms during the season and he’s the sole person in the world complaining about skirm matchups

tropic schooner
#

it doesnt even happen now

livid wasp
#

I dont get why non rated shuffles arent enabled

tropic schooner
#

wait non rated shuffles?

velvet quest
#

who would queue for that

tropic schooner
#

does that even exist

livid wasp
#

I would, rather queue that than skirms

polar nymph
#

It did in Shadowlands.

velvet quest
#

zechey ur gonna sit in queue for 2 hours waiting for 5 other people deranged enough

livid wasp
#

skirm queue is like 1-2min

velvet quest
#

and then complain that unrated shuffles need rewards to incentivize people to queue

tropic schooner
polar nymph
#

It was a brawl

tropic schooner
livid wasp
#

I get a 3s skirm pretty often too

tropic schooner
#

but good point I should go q some more bear skirmishes

#

gotta finish the quest

polar nymph
#

For me, I just want to be able to queue PvP Islands again.

#

As a q option

livid wasp
#

I just wanna have fubn

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fun

safe heart
#

Yah well you picked the wrong game buddy

#

Game doesn't get fun till you start farming Glads

random patrol
#

mastery stacking weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

#

I mean as a chicken but tech works

tropic schooner
#

@late wraith

clear pulsar
#

Dang

tropic schooner
#

like this afk craft (tbh not only that just doing most engi things)

#

I should have gone into this instead of the BS

late wraith
#

Yooooooo

#

Congrats!

tropic schooner
#

ive seen someone in tsm say doesnt really work on NA, not sure I believe but yea on EU its quite good

#

its not amazing g/h but I can do it while playing some league

late wraith
#

all raw materials went up like crazy over night

tropic schooner
#

my guess its in the ballpark of 50-60k g/h

#

which is good - but not insanly nuts

late wraith
#

A bolt of cloth was like 60k, I just sold some at 30 something like the numbers are just yoyoing like crazy

tropic schooner
late wraith
#

60g I mean

#

Not k

tropic schooner
#

I was very confused

#

about that 60k clothbolt

clear pulsar
tropic schooner
#

but now I do

late wraith
#

I really don’t understand why it’s doing this but yeah it’s just raw materials rn. It’ll rebalance but I dunno if any shuffle are worth right this minute

tropic schooner
#

wonder when I will do those

#

might wait a reset or 2 until I unlock those tinker drops even if not great its just free

narrow crane
#

75s incarn cd on ptr

#

Boomie stonk

#

New Talent: Reactive Resin – When your Restoration heal over time effects are removed by enemies, they are replaced with Reactive Resin, healing an ally over 6 seconds. Multiple stacks may overlap. Passive ability.

#

Interesting

late wraith
#

i find reading stuff like this so weird like we haven't even done anything yet? the season hasn't started yet?

#

and we have this massive list of changes? on a season that hasn't begun? huh?

#

like none of this has any impact on us till november or whenvever it is the patch drops. this is patch notes.

tiny oar
#

NOVEMBER ??

late wraith
#

yeah this is ptr stuff

tiny oar
#

send HELP

late wraith
#

this is for the patch

tiny oar
#

s1 patch ?

late wraith
#

in pvp?

late wraith
# tiny oar s1 patch ?

yeah like 11.1 or whatever it is they call it their numbering system is confusing dogshit but first patch of the expac

#

the mid season patch

clear pulsar
#

Maybe replaces invigorate spot

#

Thatd be cool

wanton ridge
#

new dracthyr classes having access to double jump and glide CringeHarold

late wraith
#

yeah i dunno about all this shit

#

the dracthyr stuff is concerning

tropic schooner
#

I cant keep crafting

#

servers down for 4 hours

late wraith
#

ent is being censored

#

this is the free market? hello?

wanton ridge
#

THe interrupt racial is "meh", 3min cd, but mages able to double jump ie in dalaran areana, fuck

tropic schooner
#

RIGHT

tiny oar
#

I'm just a little rdruid I just press my lifeblooms and hope for the best I'm sure everythings going to be fine

safe heart
#

how do u get the new anniversary armor

late wraith
safe heart
#

do u think theyre gunna make us do quests or can they just put it on a vendor for 10g

narrow crane
#

Atleast something into evoker giga purge

late wraith
#

and you buy them with that currency it's in the article

narrow crane
narrow crane
#

That’s actually pretty good then on some maps ye

late wraith
#

sorry mister

safe heart
#

maybe

late wraith
#

lol

#

ur unsubbing after first solo shuffle with a fury in it i can feel it.

tiny oar
#

real

safe heart
#

i think

#

first double shaman lobby

#

cuz itll be like

#

i wont be able to clone anything

#

and ill go insane

#

although i did have one guy give me some words of wisdom today

#

just now even

random patrol
#

it's future patch content so irelevant for the next few weeks

clear pulsar
#

Wowhead doesnt have reactive resin's spot yet

narrow crane
#

Damn missed that potent enchantments change - so incarn on 65s cd oO ?

fathom swift
#

feral feels awesome :)

random patrol
#

whats the duration of incarn with the reduction talent?

#

it also has 2 charges now with it

fathom swift
#

is that on bear?

random patrol
#

chicken

fathom swift
#

oh i forgot chicken has incarn too :)

random patrol
#

talent that reduces incarn's cooldown but reduces the buff's duration

fathom geyser
#

Any ideas or videos to help me decide what spec druid to be coming from Demon Hunter main?

tiny oar
fathom geyser
#

welp rip lmaoo, nah but i want to be druid, Ive loved vengeance demon hunter but want to do something else lol

safe heart
#

can someone help me with my bags

unreal stirrup
#

For starters you could ditch everything from the last expansion.

hexed flax
late wraith
#

enji do you have 3 signets and 4 pairs of the same crafted boots in your bags?

safe heart
#

what are you getting at

late wraith
#

i need a closer look at some specific things

#

i'm going to show you what i'd like to see

#

so i've highlighted some and put a circle around the main one

#

thank you

safe heart
late wraith
#

i see.

#

and the others?

safe heart
#

these 2 are the same item except one is enchanted and one is not

late wraith
#

i see i see

unreal stirrup
#

For real, I thought I was bad with my bags.

safe heart
#

the other 2 are teh same item but 1 is 463 and 1 is 495

late wraith
#

another thing i love is not only do you still have the hearthstone and dalaran hearthstone in your bags, you also have the dalaran hearthstone from pre patch

#

so you have 2 dalaran hearthstones.

safe heart
#

i dont even see the 2nd one

#

oh i see now

#

yeah thats the back up one

late wraith
#

yeah i case you can't find the first one i get it

unreal stirrup
late wraith
#

it might get lost in amongst your 4 different ilvl boots and your shadowlands legendary.

#

2 artisan consortium's fliers from dragonflight

#

2 of them.

safe heart
#

what do they do

late wraith
#

so i'm assuming 1 is from an older season that you just never handed in

late wraith
safe heart
#

one is a brochure and one is a leaflet

late wraith
#

yeah

#

so you didn't get the free crafts

#

but you have a bunch of crafted gear in here

#

honestly you're my favorite person that plays this game and it's not even close.

safe heart
#

what do you mean by free

#

oh actually

#

i have a 3rd one

late wraith
#

can you actally click those i want to see if they're the same thing

safe heart
late wraith
#

or if they're all from different seasons

#

yeah can you accept those real quick and show us?

#

or hover over them

safe heart
late wraith
#

hahahahahahahhahahah

safe heart
#

bro wait a minute

#

i couldve used these

#

i paid conquest for those things

late wraith
#

so for your boots

#

yeah you used conquest didn't you

#

man you're the best enjiman. this is great.

safe heart
#

i dont understand how they gave me this quest without telling me

late wraith
#

you get it automatically first rated thing you do of the season

#

it just shows up in your bags

safe heart
#

i mean yea but why didnt jaina tell me to do this

late wraith
#

jaina hates pvpers unfortch

safe heart
#

i mean its just an item in my bags

#

they shoulve been like "hey champion, do this quest"

late wraith
#

she only likes committing warcrimes herself she doesn't like when we do it

safe heart
#

if you think about it

#

the pve'ers

#

when the expansion drops

#

they immediately start saving the world

#

and all the pvp'ers just continue going to basement fight club

#

killing able bodied soldiers

#

for keks

#

do i need these

#

do they do anything

#

i have 81 of them

late wraith
#

i mean you can just go turn them in to the archaeology people.

safe heart
#

this is why

#

i should just play skyrim

#

competitivel

#

y

late wraith
#

you just need a wellness check every now and again

#

to make sure you're not doing this shit

safe heart
#

i dont evenn wanna begin to try and figure out to do a delve

#

i have a guy on my friends list whos username is brian and for some reason i gave him a note that just says brian

late wraith
#

i wish i had started using notes sooner because i have too many people i dunno who they are

safe heart
late wraith
#

loool

safe heart
#

cuz i had no idea who they were or what they mean

late wraith
#

mine are really boring i'm sorry

#

this is ben's lol

#

i don't have you on bnet but if i did it'd be glyph from dgpvp

safe heart
#

i think u should add him and make his note Glyphalomule

#

its like

#

barthalomule

#

but glyphd

#

you didnt lol

#

dont patronize me

#

@late wraith why cant i queue a heroic dungeon on my mistweaver but i can on my feral

late wraith
#

what level is your mw

safe heart
#

80

late wraith
#

what's the gear ilvl

safe heart
#

521

#

(very high)

late wraith
#

it's cause your ilvl is too low

safe heart
#

that cant be true

late wraith
safe heart
#

how can i raise my ilvl without doing heroicals?

late wraith
#

do your favorite content in the whole game

#

world quests

safe heart
#

on a mw

#

u want me to fight npcs as a mw

late wraith
#

swap to ww! @velvet quest will help you

safe heart
#

you realize as a mw my super power is summon a non predatory bird right

#

my 2nd best super power is

#

suprise gift wrapping a friend

#

we just wiped on the first pull of a normal

#

and now my boots are full of piss

stray sigil
#

urs is grandma

late wraith
late wraith
safe heart
#

i have 45 minutes ish

#

but im brave

late wraith
#

you don't even need to clean the piss off your boots

safe heart
#

im panickin skywalker rn

tiny oar
stray sigil
#

why is it not grandson

velvet quest
#

fuji how do u feel knowing puzzle gifts cdew subs but wont give you a quick 3m donation

late wraith
tiny oar
#

🤡

stray sigil
random patrol
#

when your gatherer makes more gold doing old stuff then current

#

good

safe heart
#

6% haste kinda sucks

polar nymph
keen mist
#

I havent been keeping track. What happaned to the PvP Row in the great Vault?

polar nymph
#

Gone

#

More conquest per week instead.

keen mist
#

no compensation?

#

ooh

polar nymph
#

Thank goodness

keen mist
#

yeah thats pretty neat

#

also if you play both pvp and pve you dont need to decide for either.

polar nymph
#

So many people are going to buy a weapon not knowing the quest exists.

keen mist
#

that was my problem troughout df

random patrol
#

do we still get tier tokens this season?

random patrol
#

I think boomy is only doing 2 piec

#

at least maybe not even that

#

it's pretty weak

polar nymph
#

Stats no good on 2 set?

random patrol
#

their decent actually only a 5 percent increase on starsurge dam though

#

so prob worth it

#

4 piece not so much

#

Ill just copy rudar though cause Im lame

polar nymph
#

Even then, 1 set for free is a good boon to your ilvl early on

random patrol
#

def

polar nymph
#

Won't be surprised if ppl mostly just slam conq vendor gear for vers

#

Across the board in PvP.

random patrol
#

there are 2 vers pieces

#

also 2 haste mastery pieces but vers is low so Idk

#

not worried about it this early in the season

polar nymph
#

Ilvl be king for now

random patrol
#

yep

#

filler wpvp temp pieces

polar nymph
#

If I can motivate myself to grind wpvp pieces

random patrol
#

precog is a gem

#

embe I think you can still get

#

no clue what would be good

#

there is a blue silken lining but vers now

polar nymph
#

Probably one of those 2 set embels

random patrol
#

toxic patch 2.0 maybe

#

if thats a thing I cant rem I glanced at them

polar nymph
#

There's a haste one that's basically a weapon enchant.

mental ice
polar nymph
#

Oh that's good

random patrol
#

you get weapons unlocked after you get the first one

#

until then you cant get them

polar nymph
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The haste one is like 30 secs of 3k haste I think

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Embel 2 set

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Though it might be cloth specific

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so many free haste modifiers now

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tempted to stack mastery

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did that season 2 of df

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was alright

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super bursty but rip your clones

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Had a friend that did that on Frost Mage all of DF

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Ran a one shot build with Snowdrift

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And big icicles

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go hard into it even run the cursed gems

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all the mastery

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if your going to do burst do it hard

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season 3 and 4 of sl I used mastery and crit on my gear course then chicken could really burst hard

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even used the crit mastery cloak though that was mostly for memes

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Big Starsurges

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still like using the haste trinket over badge with those builds though

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cept the seasons I ran the blue badge cause it had intellect boost and haste

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I used Badge for Convoke memes in SL mostly.

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Was fun with Bloodtalons Bites during Convoke.

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funny part is convoke still oneshots..................in casual pvp 1v1s

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I wouldnt touch convoke as chicken now though

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maybe low rated twos for memes

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I know whenever it can one shot on Feral because Snupy will release a "is convoke viable now?" video

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Man loves his gamble cat

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always felt like it was better on cat then chicken cept when it could full moon in pvp of course

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Because you can isolate a main target easier

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it is a fun abillity to press of course

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should be baseline or in druid tree

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I feel like right now you'd mostly use it for fast resource gen on chicken

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course I still miss baseline arcane moons from legion

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rudar will use short convoke for healing in double dps 2s

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I miss 33% Swarm

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It's not nerfed to 20% anymore though

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I like 4 sec Convoke more these days

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Both versions have increased favour towards exceptional spells now

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saltwater potion 4 secon convoke in casual pvp

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rip enemy

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Yummy

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boomy gets talent tree rework their still not happy

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now ret though that was a huge change

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Is it a good rework?

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To Boomy

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I think it is

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I dont bother to test stuff these days though