pvp

[rigid linden]

Eshays

I'm caught between a cock and a rock

Do I play feral or boomy

Every feral I've seen lives forever but I like being a boy who just lobs shit and does max dmg

[velvet quest]

ty i was having a blast the first 4 days it made me feel like an upper class citizen which was very hype

now im leveling and honor grinding and im undefeated in comp stomp if u dont count the 10 matches i left so overall i think im kinda owning

[tiny oar]

[tiny oar]

leaving comp stomp ??

[velvet quest]

whats stopping u from playing the other if you dont enjoy your first pick? just go queue bgs with both and decide

[velvet quest]

team not worthy of my talents sometimes

[tiny oar]

u are above them for sure

[velvet quest]

like when an afker lets a bot cap their node and then the bots cap another node id rather just take deserter and log onto next alt than suffer another 10 minutes in there

if i was sitting farm id stay and let it play out i guess

[tiny oar]

real

[clear pulsar]

I want you to

Live your best hecking life buddy

[tiny oar]

yea formy

we're all here to support and love you no matter what class you choose to play

[rigid linden]

buying gear ig

[velvet quest]

most the gear is pretty interchangeable, pick one spec and if u hate it just buy the honor wep for the other spec

[clear pulsar]

Well

We get one choice of free weapon per character

So I think that can be pretty significant early on

[velvet quest]

well atm u should be gearing for full honor, if ur not sure whether u like feral or boomkin more u can use this time to play both and buy the correct honor weapon before season starts

[rigid linden]

wym with that'

yeah dw i tried feral still not feeling it

OG formy is dead

Boomkin full send.

[clear pulsar]

There's a once-per-character seasonal quest that gives you a weapon on the 3rd week

To replace vault kinda

[lime light]

ep can do that quest in 2nd week

🏴‍☠️

[viscid remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/ohnepixel-ohnebanger-banger-ohne-gif-9487226311395847787

[safe heart]

imagine being tall LMAO

frfr

[stray sigil]

fdk enjoyers rises

[viscid remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-despair-meme-atone-gif-18083281511005463831

[lime light]

EP made Fuji

[lime light]

EP knows the way

[tiny oar]

EP knows the way

[lime light]

pls tell

me Mister Face

@clear pulsar

4 cofferer keyers per week

and thats it

or there is something written with the little asian small letters

ah

i might be missing 25 of those

oki

wp

[random patrol]

oribos is the best city in the game

[dapper bobcat]

thx for talents

[lime light]

iam gonna destroy my pc

if they are not gonna

fix that fucking dogshit ah

by tomorrow

[tardy hare]

Gamer

[tropic schooner]

It's fun isn't it

[livid wasp]

arent some bots lagging it out or some shit

doing million requests per sec

[tropic schooner]

id say very unlikely

think the most likely thing is just people using it normally lagging it out

[carmine berry]

Does anyone know whether your alts can do the world events (unlocked after several wqs) to get a key if your main already did?

[lime light]

idk what lags that AH

and i dont care what is the problem

all i care iis i want the ready to use production

cause iam paying for that

[livid wasp]

ice lance like 50% of frost mages dmg

that nerf is gonna fuck them isnt it

hope so

[tropic schooner]

tbh the "lag"/slowdown isnt even an issue

the items not found/not seeing lowest pricd items on posting is

[livid wasp]

dont worry they still havent invested those extra 10 million from people buying early access into better servers

[tropic schooner]

well I can totally see it being quite hard to fix but it is absolutely annoying

[carmine berry]

thank you

[livid wasp]

is the AH bug another mind control lag bug

https://x.com/FwoiblesWoW/status/1829977337397723443

Tom Ellis (@FwoiblesWoW) on X

So what’s going on with the Auction House is an interesting tech problem, a well meaning and simple design change caused a DB table that used to hold 20-60k rows to now contain tens of millions. Not a problem by itself but we’ve got some code changes to make to support this new

Twitter · Aug 31, 2024, 8:19 PM

[tropic schooner]

its so bad only playing for AH kinda and cant really sell shit realiably

[livid wasp]

which hero path would you take as prevoker for pvp

[tiny oar]

https://tenor.com/view/venti-venti-genshin-venti-genshin-impact-genshin-impact-american-psycho-gif-23075424

[livid wasp]

well im doing dungeons with it but nice to practice it in advance

[lime light]

imagine

grouping

for world pvp quest

[carmine remnant]

how is boomy feeling in blitz? tempted to try out frost

[livid wasp]

I should learn it

for a chance at blitz 2.4k

nah ive changed

[haughty compass]

Chronowarden

[livid wasp]

do we cast living flame that much

[lime light]

everyone will be boomer affi sp for the bg soloqueu

[haughty compass]

Yea sure

[lime light]

just pick the spec that fucks them in the anus

[carmine remnant]

How is it compared to mage, im looking for something mobile and and fun but only ever played classic version of boomy

[fast kraken]

Trying to find a new healer to pvp with, how hard is rdruid right now? Coming from someone that never played the spec

[carmine remnant]

ur so right

i struggle with the "all or nothing vibe"

I already have a feral lvl 80 (been playing feral for years) so i can just hop right in, the mage seems cool, just gotta level it

but you say mage is more mobile?

im from classic where cheetah form is just op af

oh shit

in the meaning of more movement skills? or just instant casts

sorry if its obvious, im new///drunk atm

ty for info! i will definitely try out boomy tomorrow and if it fails try out frost

i just need a break from feral

[livid wasp]

I also used to be a CE raider boomy I can do it

[haughty compass]

I need to create a bearded lady dwarf Prot warrior. When can I make one

[livid wasp]

theyre not scalies though????

[tawdry tangle]

Boomy can also cc both healers nearly at once. Clone one, root beam the other.

Which will probably feel good in blitz especially since cc will naturally be less coordinated.

[fickle shuttle]

so whats the meta rn on hero talents?

[livid wasp]

wildstalker

[fickle shuttle]

i meant for boomies sorry

[livid wasp]

it's okay I forgive you

[untold spade]

My guild hosting a 1v1 tournament in Gurubashi. I'm participating as well and I'm trying to figure out which spec would give me the best chance at winning, Feral or Balance?

I was thinking Feral, but can see arguments for both specs, honestly

Any input is greatly appreciated 🙏

[livid wasp]

feral

[untold spade]

Thanks for confirming!

Time to start cooking a build

[livid wasp]

gurubashi 1v1 tournament?

prepare for griefers

[clear pulsar]

Kotg

Is nasty work

[wise vessel]

whats the best feral pvp build rn

[carmine berry]

Anyone got a decent macro that swaps to cat form and uses prowl when out of cat form? My one used to work, but now if prowl on CD and I used the keybind to swap to cat, it reverts back to no cat form

actually think i fixed

[dim cliff]

How @carmine berry ?

[carmine berry]

just standard
/cast cat form
/cast prowl

for most part, it works and does prowl within same gcd

[marble inlet]

Hi, for balance pvp, does anyone have a build?

[sly marsh]

#pvp message

[marble inlet]

tyty!

[sly marsh]

yw

I have done my good deed for the day, time for mischief and skullduggery

[timber birch]

the feral guide on icy veins talks about this pvp talent, wild attunement that turns me into cat form after casting cyclone, but i dont see it in the game

has it been removed?

[marble inlet]

do you use starfall in bgs?

[sly marsh]

No clue I play feral haha

[safe heart]

Yes it's removed

[shrewd lagoon]

for those that was the code:
CYGAqvgeoHLefPLb/Pa8nkKXDBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWGFMzMmhZGwMYmxsZYhxYmZZGLmxwMz2MLzMmxYDswAM2WmZZbbmtZZmmZWmpAAQAsZmhB

[fast kraken]

is rdruid easy to pilot in pvp ?

[safe heart]

I mean it depends if ur good at the spec ?

[fast kraken]

for someone that isnt a healer nor a druid player lol

[safe heart]

I don't play rdruid but I'd say yea it's probably one of the easier healers because it does pretty well by just doing throughput and doesn't have an overwhelming amount of utility baked in

It's not like pres or rsham

And it's definitely stronger than castweaver as an afk healer

[fast kraken]

just seemed weird the order of hot you have to manage like this one before the other one and so on lol

• all the buttons with other forms xD

[safe heart]

Best thing you can do is watch a guide and give it a try and see if it's up your alley or not

[ripe burrow]

QUICK I NEED A BEAR FC BUILD

90 SECONDS

[fast kraken]

thing is I kinda dont wanna lvl a char for no reason XD and yeah looked at some guides , rotation seemed really confusing for my dps smoothbrain lmfao

[safe heart]

Well if ur trying to heal, rdruid is probably the easiest one thats actually rly strong
Castweaver is the easiest healer for sure but it's not as good as rdruid
Rsham is probably better than rdruid but it's much harder

Pres is better than rdruid also but the short range means you are gunna get cc'd alot easier and can't play pillar as much

[fast kraken]

Im mainly deciding between hpal and rdruid haha

[compact forge]

IRONHIDE GO BRR

[sly marsh]

Play rdruid

hang out max range and pve heal

[tiny oar]

boring

I'd fall asleep

[sly marsh]

they are looking for easy

easy is boring

There is no easy and exciting

[fast kraken]

I dont understand that I mean isnt rdruid heal range the same as everyone beside prevoker?

[livid wasp]

prevoker looks exciting

[safe heart]

Basically yes but normla rdruid strat means hanging back as far away as possible

[fast kraken]

Kk make sense

If you were to explain the healing rotation to a dumbdumb dps like me lol how many main healing spell do you use as rdruid?

[clear pulsar]

Enji is coping, rsham is the easiest healer to play

[stray sigil]

[sly marsh]

[safe heart]

REAL

I did not feel like I was fighting for my life at all playing rsham not even once never

It was really easy to move ppls hp as long as I popped 4 cds

[fast kraken]

How to easily know when hots are about to run out on your teammates in bg ?

Is there weakauras macros or addons for that ? I guess so

[viscid remnant]

real

[raven otter]

Hi guys, returning Player Here, are there Good rdru guides out there in textform?

[clear pulsar]

I use grid2, anybody that also heals in PVE is usually gonna have a raid frame addon for this. @grand mesa can give you the rundown

[grand mesa]

You want BigDebuffs and OmniCC

BigDebuffs allows you to go to 6 hots, and OmniCC puts timers on hots inside your raid frame

[clear pulsar]

I just update the pins talking about talents and hero talents. There's also an older post talking about some gameplay aspects from Bencookies linked in there. Might expand on that later.

[fast kraken]

Thanks guys Ill try later

[sly marsh]

ty face

[fast kraken]

Also who should go oom first between hpal and rdruid ?

[clear pulsar]

No clue without context

Not much clue with context either tbh, I have no idea what hpala mana looks like rn

[fast kraken]

Haha no worries

But would you say rdruid is mana efficient ?

[clear pulsar]

Thats relative

Rdru can oom, I guess not all healer will oom so no

Other healers might oom faster idk that

[fast kraken]

What healer wont oom ?

[velvet quest]

the healer getting free drinks whenever they want

[clear pulsar]

If you play for 20 mins ig every healer ooms

But I dont think disc ooms rn

Like in a shuffle round for instance

Evoker probably doesnt either

Hpriest in the past didnt oom, idk about rn

Mistweaver also depending on build

Hpala was bad mana late DF

Rsham ooms

[fast kraken]

Yeah I remember hpal going oom fast thats why Im thinking going rdruid instead of hpal lol

[untold spade]

Are there any consistent Balance Druid content creators?

Like still active ones

[random patrol]

best bet is rudar when he streams, posts vids

or murloc

(website)

[livid wasp]

prevoker is weird like idk if im healing right at all

[fast kraken]

is this all by default or I have to change settings with these 2 addons for hots ?

[clear pulsar]

BigDebuffs is good out of the box

Omnicc is very customizable

Well

It's a simple addon rly just adds numbers to anything you want

[remote tide]

Is Mes' WA up to date with TWW?

or is there something else people are using to show enemy cd

[safe heart]

I think I forgot to update that weak aura since SL

[haughty compass]

Literally my favorite spec in the game

[livid wasp]

I should watch some guide at some point probably

just so many abilities

but can also echo reversion echo verdant embrace

but what is the correct way to do things

[haughty compass]

Verdant buffs dream breath too

So echo verdant echo dream breath

[livid wasp]

it does?

is it some talent I dont have

oh call of ysera

[rigid flower]

can anyone recommend a guardian druid build for me? was watching piratesoftware run an elune's chosen setup earlier and it seemed fun.

[clear pulsar]

Is there any reason you cant just run the elune's chosen they played?

[rigid flower]

i don't know his build

[clear pulsar]

I dont think you'll get an answer cuz nobody active in the channel plays guardian. Maybe a lurker can come to your rescue.

[limber plover]

hello

someone teach me how to bait mage's blink

(Smarter mage)

[safe heart]

i mean

u could just try to anticipate the moment he is planning to blink (like poly dr is off healer) and do whatever at that point

if hes a "smart mage" hes gunna play on script

if ur play feral and just dont wanna let him get away

just never press wild charge unless he presses blink

force him to press it first

[clear pulsar]

Play tireless pursuit and shift like no tomorrow fr

[finite bay]

Any pvp boomies on that can share their pvp builds? What are you all goign to be running for 3v3 and SS?

I am just lost right now. big nerfs coming to Luna's Chosen too...

[limber plover]

actually this

[random patrol]

rudar's build I screenshoted: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/143378928617259008/1279897952705314907/Rudar_trees.JPG?ex=66d61d5b&is=66d4cbdb&hm=00a335ea59a27625d2971283d4d4a09e79e9facfec6facca7f62c199d9c9356d&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/143378928617259008/1279898007185133578/Rudar_decurse.JPG?ex=66d61d68&is=66d4cbe8&hm=7817570eed62458afd2786cad67179d6ed5a563a41fea4d447c8aa3ef549a069&

decurse version

[golden ruin]

is it worthier to farm brawl? or try to win some random bgs?

i was thinking about that, winning a bg give like 800 honor and box, losing gives something like 300 depending on how hard you lose but no box, winning brawl gives 300 honor + box

[neat sandal]

yeah brawl as dull as it is, is very quick for honor and make sure to use the flask too

[north grove]

Ottovonbird on twitch, he streams RBGs mostly, but he also pvp 3s and shuffles

he's main boomy

[livid wasp]

how to avoid tilting

its so hard and it ruins my games every time

I tilt then I have to play again to try to get the dopamine but it goes like shit too cause im tilted

not using defensives right or shifting like shit

[safe heart]

Not tilting probably out of the realm of possibilities for you at this point bro

[torn edge]

any videos or accounts I can follow for balance pvp content ?

[livid wasp]

everything is possible

[safe heart]

Not true

[livid wasp]

how do you do it I just wanna learn it

its in the way of everything

[safe heart]

I tilt everytime I lose so beats me

[fast kraken]

Just accept losing and see as a win improvement wise if you learn

[livid wasp]

but its hard

[shy snow]

If it was easy everyone would do it

https://tenor.com/view/tkt-smart-gif-20642718

[weak moon]

Anyone know of any pvp guilds that will be focusing on rbgb/rgb's?

[spring gazelle]

Feral pvp stat weights

[sly marsh]

big boobies

[golden ruin]

@neat sandal just read what you wrote yesterday, what flask o.o?

[compact forge]

the one that gives bonus honor

[clear pulsar]

Vicious something on the AH

[neat sandal]

Sorry long day! yep its the Vicious flask of honor, lasts an hour and pair that with brawl its real quick even though a little dull!

[safe heart]

What about em

[livid wasp]

I think he was just very high and thought this was google

[young radish]

Moonkin vs AI is bonkers 😄

[tropic schooner]

there are limits

[random patrol]

@spring gazelle mastery and vers for feral

[livid wasp]

someone like snupy has that superpower

of no tilt

[clear pulsar]

It's pretty easy you just gotta stop being a victim

[sly marsh]

i also find I tilt much less in games when I am using games as a reward rather than an escape

ie laundry is done, got your exercise in for the day, homework is done (if you have homework)

You get my point

[clear pulsar]

There you go, just do your laundry and you feel good about shuffle

You're def onto something

I tilt way less when I do things outside of wow that I feel like were important

[heavy osprey]

anyone have a general build for boomkin in bgs?

[random patrol]

I just fucking q

I'll get to my end goal eventually

"unironicly likes solo q"

[compact forge]

https://www.twitch.tv/rudarz/clip/ExquisiteCallousBeanShazBotstix-zhbvpcgYxh_FJpAu

What the fuck

LOL

I haven't felt this bad for a Ret since wings were dispellable.

[random patrol]

chicken pops big beam ret dies

good

[dapper patio]

hey

so uhhhh

I'm not a druid, as you could probably tell

but anyway

I've been on a bit of a search for some kitty to play jungle with (EU)

me and my healer are long-term teammates playing MM - Hpri since effectively shadowlands

(we're 2s andies)

and we¨ve lately kinda been coquetting with the idea of giving 3s a shot

so we're looking for somebody who's like similar experience, no voice, chill and willing to undergo a bit of shenanigans to see if shit would make any sense under any circumstances

here's our resume, healer is identical except he'd been slacking the last 2 seasons cuz the tryhard pushing came down on both of us lately and he just wasn't willing to go for it at that point, understandably so; and I was slacking in sl s2 cuz I didn'T care about glad - not that I care about it now anyway, but why not give it a shot xd

[livid wasp]

are you na or eu

[dapper patio]

oh, right, EU

going through messages now xddd

I love this message

[livid wasp]

lol

[dapper patio]

cuz I was totally full volleying quad-treant spawns and cleaving them to shit

[livid wasp]

I can try jungle but my work schedule is kinda degen

I come home like between 23-00

[dapper patio]

so is ours, also combined with will to actually push, we need something kinda casual

oh oki that's prolly too degen, we can try and see tho

depends on heal really, I'm studying so I don't work yet

I'm only restricted by lessons and gf

[random patrol]

running double health makes the treants a lot stronger, also last prob is the treant when the chicken is blowing you up

[dapper patio]

volley can go through walls

I will probably just volley and line the fuck out of the branches or whoever while I ground them with rapid fire

[random patrol]

pillar stops everything

love pillar

prob

if not much changes Im going hard mastery

I dont think were on 4 set as chicken this time around

prob just 2 set

boat is currently not nerfed in pvp

helps for hard mastery even more

what Im currently running might swap to potent enchantments and out of embrace for goldrin after tuesday nerfs

pick up bloom for infinite surges later

embrace and inspir prob

yep

[tall laurel]

stupid question but should i buy weapon or both trinkets first? i play feral

[tall laurel]

got it ty!

[clear pulsar]

They don't do any damage, there's no good reason to dump them in the middle of the fight. Regardless, they also have more HP than the druid rn.

It's the same with the resto treants, sure some freak warrior could hard swap and commit some minor cds to kill them. At that point the treants are an insane defensive for preventing that much damage from going on players.

[whole wyvern]

[finite bay]

Yeah, I saw his build, man, I am not a fan of Treants.. they only last like 5 sec...

[random patrol]

they last 10 minutes and very much out perform ec

especially after the nerf tomorrow

[finite bay]

Treants only last 8 sec

[random patrol]

meant seconds but yeah

[finite bay]

but yeah EC is not the play

[random patrol]

your using it for dreamburst

ec was cute for huge starfires though

[finite bay]

it was, and when your getting trained by melee

those insta casts

[random patrol]

salt water in a casual bg plus zerk

1 shot people

[finite bay]

haha

[random patrol]

ec still usefull if you think your getting hard trained or for moons prob

thankfully unlike covs you can swap between hero talents

[finite bay]

What are your thoughts on binding treants to starsurge or something with a mouse pointer mod?

casting it every 25 sec feels bad

[random patrol]

I have it on mouse up

their on the gcd

[finite bay]

yeah, good point

[random patrol]

I use a cast @

[finite bay]

yeah, just made a [@cursor] macro for treants works great

[random patrol]

much better

default button for it sucks

[finite bay]

you think the 20% increase to starfall damage will have any play in arenas?

Seems massive

[unkempt wind]

wow bloodtalon bar with people in it that arent deafened

whats the occasion

been in this cord since 2018

and i still dont know what bloodtalon bar is

and why people go in there and just deafen

and nobody will give me the answer until the day i die

[random patrol]

it's a dark place

a dark place indeed

[unkempt wind]

i would join but i dont feel welcome

might catch rabies

[random patrol]

only if you remove your mouth and ears

speak no evil , hear no evil

[kindred vigil]

it's fun :)

[tiny oar]

WE'RE FRIENDLY I SWEAR

[unkempt wind]

@halcyon summit unmute

[dapper patio]

aw sadge, guess I ain't focusing treants anymore

[maiden viper]

have they nerfed honor gains? I just got 279 honor for winning a wintergrasp

[inner cliff]

we got a boomi bg build?

[ebon valve]

what general stats for feral pvp?

[elfin radish]

Whats a good bg boomy build?

[elfin radish]

old pinned stuff says:Always Druid main — 09/22/2023 6:28 PM
Feral (updated Sept 1st)
Stats: Vers >= Mastery > Haste. Having some Haste helps with Cloning. but likely check with snupy or so

[ebon valve]

Do I need to even upgrade my pvp gear right now it seems like it doesnt scale the pvp Ilv of it

[livid wasp]

no you do not

[tardy hare]

only for worldquesting

[queen drift]

Why are some of your icons red?

[whole wyvern]

[tiny oar]

colourblind mode is my only guess no idea if not that

[fast kraken]

is there anything other to farm other than honor right now before season starts ?

[queen drift]

Thought it looked cool

[whole wyvern]

[fast kraken]

1. where do u get them ?
2. can you farm spark right now ?

oh but cant you just buy sockets with honor?

why not spark ?

isnt it like 4-5 pieces ?

haha yes so do I, Im not sure Ill farm them on my 4 toons but we'll see just wanted to know if I was already late on the spark farming xD

[tardy hare]

Sparks dont give anything before season start

Just 500 honor and some rep

[fast kraken]

thanks !! amazing then

[tropic schooner]

[tiny oar]

I AM NICE

[clear pulsar]

It's a voice channel

?

[tiny oar]

u have good taste in music and you're looking very handsome today

[tiny oar]

axtin chilled in bloodtalon bar with us for 5h teaching a feral how to pvp so based

[clear pulsar]

He aint never teach me how to pvp

Not based

[whole wyvern]

[tiny oar]

u know everything he was talking abt

[tiny oar]

IM NOT WRONG

[whole wyvern]

i saw everyone in baR I was half asleep or I would of joined

I am probably going to be the only tauren representative on the pvp bracket this season

earth mother guide my path

[livid wasp]

my man

[whole wyvern]

[tiny oar]

i like tauren kinda

[whole wyvern]

[acoustic elbow]

does someone have a guardian pvp build for bg?

[late wraith]

What the that’s so nice

[whole wyvern]

[tiny oar]

hes so chill and nice and kind

[livid wasp]

then the feral rerolls after nerfs

[whole wyvern]

[sly marsh]

[haughty compass]

I want my evokers visage to be Tauren, hopefully they let people customize that form eventually

[tiny oar]

yo that'd be lit i fuck w it

just priest left for the warband

[clear pulsar]

Your names are so cute

[tiny oar]

thank you i try to think of either cute stuff / something to do with the class

[late wraith]

i just gotta wrap up hunter and then i'm redddddy

[tiny oar]

I LOVE GNASTYYYYY 💚 so adorable

[late wraith]

ty ty i love my little squad

[acoustic elbow]

what does the last messages have to do with pvp?

[acoustic elbow]

does someone have a guardian pvp build for bg?

[clear pulsar]

No

[late wraith]

lol what does being a guardian druid have to do with pvp

[clear pulsar]

SO REAL

[late wraith]

ty bestie

[acoustic elbow]

?

[clear pulsar]

You rly read my mind tbh

[acoustic elbow]

in bg guardian is very good

[late wraith]

alright then you already know so much make a build bb

[acoustic elbow]

ít was s tier for rbgs in a lot

hm?

[late wraith]

damn, what's a good build for it then

[acoustic elbow]

why so mean?

[clear pulsar]

The spec changed like absolutely nothing since DF season 1

[late wraith]

i'm not being mean don't come in asking for builds then get catty when we're not talking about pvp. transmogs are pvp.

it's the whole point. showing off your little outfit while you fight guys

[acoustic elbow]

where is transmog pvp?

lol

[clear pulsar]

It's a vicious cycle

Pvp to unlock transmog
Use transmog to show off in pvp

[late wraith]

actual answer is murlok is always the best resource for builds for rbgs

now start over and show me your warband

[acoustic elbow]

yes but the rated season didnt start yet

my warband?

[late wraith]

it should be fine for last season and then just try either of the hero builds

yeah your guys. show us your guys

[clear pulsar]

Right. Nobody has set builds. People are testing shit. Pvpers especially are slow to come up with some agreed upon default because they dont know how anything in the game rly works, just trial and error.

[late wraith]

yeah there won't be anything solid till couple weeks into the season so now we jsut cook and try little things.

[acoustic elbow]

pls

dont blame me for not having good tmog

[clear pulsar]

I like your evoker

Just fix belt

[late wraith]

there they are all your guys

ready to go

with crazy builds

[sly marsh]

Haha

[whole wyvern]

[clear pulsar]

Beavs I havent leveled any alts yet

But my druid is so set I'm full honor now

[late wraith]

my pve druid has no gear lol. she's in like quest greens. my pvp druid is full honor gear. gnasty is half geared. hunter is a gatherer main now? just mines?

[clear pulsar]

I'm for sure gonna do it for sure tho. At least the warrior.

@late wraith rate my warband

[late wraith]

the names are great why do you all have such good coordinated names

[clear pulsar]

Had to be done

Tell angry I got him

[late wraith]

is facegotangry in a set?

he would love the look of that, i'm sending it to him

or just post it in guild tbh post that bad boy in the mog channel and tag him

[clear pulsar]

Not full set. Helm and shoulders are 1, chest and hands are another, belt and pants a 3rd, boots a 4th

Lemme double check which is what

[late wraith]

damn you're good at mixing from old sets i'm so bad at that because i get mad when they aren't an exact hex code match

[clear pulsar]

Yeah it's what I said

The only things that's off are belt mouth glow and this weird yellow tint across the chest

But it's ok I can live with it. The golden outlines match against all odds

[clear pulsar]

But yeah back to this for a bit, I think bear will be a lot less popular even for that now cuz BG blitz is prob gonna take over other forms of bg and you cant swap to guardian after queue for flag maps, might as well run flag as resto or boomie

https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/druid/guardian/druid-of-the-claw/DAQREUFAiFUEURRaFQEBAOVVUFigBEkVASQFBEEFVVUBA play this

For tanky

https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/druid/guardian/druid-of-the-claw/DAQREUBAiFUUURRKlAEBBOVVFBIhUFhVQUQFCAAEFVVUBQ this for damage probably

I just copied 2 ppl from leaderboard

All for you

[acoustic elbow]

thanks

but isnt guardians also strong in holding points

[whole wyvern]

yes they are good to spin but with bg blitz taking over it isn't gonna be as important since you will need to rotate

[clear pulsar]

What tantify said, bg blitz has diff ruleset for maps

[quaint rapids]

Say I really want the pvp elite set this tier. But don't care for the helmet. I could just get 1600 then buy the shoulders with a token right?

[tiny oar]

yea totally doable ^^

[quaint rapids]

Sweet, idk if I have the patience to push duelist again

[topaz python]

yooo returning player here, do I have to complete TWW campaign to play arena somewhat competitively? haven't even logged in yet but thinking about paying for a boost. yes i hate this game and don't care about the story and i'm lazy, sorry

[weak moon]

@quaint rapids pvp elite set is only 1800 right?

[safe heart]

My man

I'm pretty sure u dont

I think the only thing doing the campaign does is unlock world quests and if ur not eiya then those don't matter

[weak moon]

You just need sparks quest which I don’t think that’s locked behind campaign… but not sure.

[safe heart]

You don't even need the spark quest

Just use conquest gear

[quaint rapids]

Believe so

[safe heart]

I think the embellishments are sockets now

[weak moon]

You’re gonna want sparks for certain crafted pieces to get correct stat prio, no?

[weak moon]

You can 100% get 1800 sir. Lot of folks in this discord can help you get there.

[quaint rapids]

I've done it before

[late wraith]

I think crafted is not a thing so much this tier? I might be wrong on that

A lot of things have been said

[quaint rapids]

I just can't be arsed on feral usually. For ss anyway

[late wraith]

And my mind is a simple peanut that can only hold so much

[quaint rapids]

Might be better this expansion

But feral was miserable for me in SS as a 1800 level player

I'm definitely not a pvp main

[weak moon]

Later in the season after some rating inflation even I can help you get 1800 in 2’s. I tend to give out free 1800 carries late in the season or when I get hardstuck somewhere.

[safe heart]

Yeah but not really necessary

Your stats won't be picture perfect but that's not gunna hold you back
The campaign is painful as fuck

There was one quest where I had run along a fence and do a jump and it took me like 11 tries

Almost unsubbed

[weak moon]

Orphans quest lol

[quaint rapids]

There's a joke In here about pvp players

[weak moon]

I agree but I’m still going to min max my pvp gear

[topaz python]

thanks for this 🫡

[stray sigil]

real

realest thing you ever said

@velvet quest

[late wraith]

da FUCK

how come you're a mean little beast and your idol is in a chat helping people. why'd you turn out so bad when your mentor is such a gem

you need to go back in the oven and cook a bit more. absorb some of his niceness.

[stray sigil]

[late wraith]

[random patrol]

@queen drift I recolored them in gimp

[late wraith]

you should ask enji about tier 3 medallion settings.

[safe heart]

Bullshit rng

[stray sigil]

[clear pulsar]

You got that backwards

Fuji made Axtin

[safe heart]

Fuji made axtin

[river solstice]

any feral pvp talents

[late wraith]

wrong

[stray sigil]

@unkempt wind dont forget it

[polar nymph]

You realise you could have just done one of the other methods to complete that quest?

[late wraith]

axtin made fuji by saying his name on stream

[stray sigil]

[late wraith]

[stray sigil]

stop spreading misinformation

[safe heart]

The other methods were 5x harder

[late wraith]

no i'm the truth teller

you've been spreading your little lies too long

[safe heart]

Where do u think axtin got the idea to play a melf

[late wraith]

a what?

[stray sigil]

a melf

[late wraith]

is that a male elf?

[stray sigil]

[polar nymph]

I have no words...

[late wraith]

enji is operating on another level with his world questing

he's an eq main just let him do it his way

he'll maybe get it done, maybe he'll do deranged things that make his life way harder for an entire expansion, it's not our business.

[safe heart]

You are all responsible for getting me thru this xpac alive

If you have any questions, dont

[late wraith]

enji you know we can't promise this. you are going to unsub and resub like 3 times per month

[polar nymph]

Are you single?

[late wraith]

i genuinely do not know if you're subbed right now

[stray sigil]

hes married

with a kid

[late wraith]

lol

[safe heart]

Irrelephant

[polar nymph]

That's good news!

[late wraith]

enjiman is the least single of all of us

[stray sigil]

wrong

[late wraith]

he is with childe

[polar nymph]

hmm?

[stray sigil]

u should have grandchildren qt ur age

[late wraith]

how'd you get this way

how'd you become like this

[polar nymph]

He played WoW PvP

[late wraith]

is it too much computers? too much youtube? too much screen time as a kid?

[stray sigil]

[haughty compass]

Broken heart

[stray sigil]

[late wraith]

i think as a kid he accidentally watched one of those scary youtubes of elsa kicking peppa pig's head off

and now he's this way

[stray sigil]

women are evil

[livid wasp]

I blame my parents for my tilting kinda they didnt teach me how to deal with losing

[stray sigil]

real

[polar nymph]

Oh @livid wasp perfect timing!

[haughty compass]

[quaint rapids]

I'm assuming for feral, the crit polearm is better than the crafted one due to the 10 ilvl diff

[safe heart]

Yaa

[unkempt wind]

lul

[late wraith]

glyph!

what on earth.

[random patrol]

warrior and or ret time

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[livid wasp]

I cant win a single skirmish

and theyre nerfing feral

kinda sad

[velvet quest]

Feral fotm rerollers can’t win once their class is no longer S tier, a tale as old as time

[livid wasp]

its not nerfed

[tropic schooner]

classic 0-100 zechey stats

[livid wasp]

funny how they buff enha while its already one of the most broken specs

[velvet quest]

It’s so broken all the dhs and fury warriors are rerolling to it I heard

[safe heart]

I haven't heard 1 good thing about enhance since like SL

[velvet quest]

Have you heard of good comp enji

[rigid flower]

As an enh player, there hasnt been anything good about it since end of bfa.

Sure sure.

It's definitely heavily flawed if that's what you mean.

[velvet quest]

Cause cracked=flawed haha I get it!

[safe heart]

Word is I invented it

[velvet quest]

See that’s a good thing about enhance

[safe heart]

The bad thing about Good Comp ™️ is that no one will play it cause they're BITCHMADE

[rigid flower]

So Supatease said guardian would be A rank in pvp, do ya'll agree? I've been enjoying guardian and I think I'll main it over enh shaman which was given a D if that's the case.

[safe heart]

Absolutely not

Unless you mean rbgs

Which don't matter

[velvet quest]

If you’re relying on streamer tier lists to decide how good a spec is then I think spec balance doesn’t matter to you

[rigid flower]

He said the tier list was encompassing all pvp.

[safe heart]

Well it's like

Guardian is probably A or S for rbgs and D tier for anything else

[late wraith]

the tier list was encompassing all pvp? and it had guardian in it?

for all pvp?

guardian? the bear?

[safe heart]

So if that balances out to A for you then yes

[rigid flower]

"Relying" I generally like to get multiple sources opinions and form my own. Hence why I'm here.

[quaint rapids]

Have any feral tried dotc and maintaining 100% wild shape mastery uptime with fluid form?

Sound impractical

[safe heart]

Bears do no damage and have no synergy with any comp in the game

[quaint rapids]

But wild shape mastery has no ICD lmfao

[safe heart]

Literally all they can do is dr clone spam ppl while not dying

Your other dps partner would be fully carrying you

Like you'd need to pay him

[late wraith]

@velvet quest you hear this?

bigdingus season bayBE

[velvet quest]

You’re not forming your own opinion you’re just regurgitating whoever’s opinion makes you feel better

[late wraith]

supa said bear is a tier

[safe heart]

I can't even fathom a possible reason for guardian to be good

[late wraith]

i'm ready

[safe heart]

Oh it's definitely a tier

That tier is F

[velvet quest]

Bear brewmaster and who

[late wraith]

prot

get healed by the valkyrie

[velvet quest]

@silver bay you’re prot it’s decided

[late wraith]

or at least they do i dunno if we do. we all heal our own selves

glad push inc

[rigid flower]

You're just a fountain of hate and projection me thinks.

[late wraith]

methinks mayo doth whine too much

stormfather i agree with you

[silver bay]

Hell yeah brother

[velvet quest]

I’m not a fountain of hate that’s @tiny oar

[late wraith]

lake is a fountain of love and kindness

[random patrol]

time to play arms war

or prot

maybe the later

piss everyone off

including myself

[safe heart]

Supatease is actually bald irl

[late wraith]

stormdaddy don't let mayo bother you, i think you should be a bear in 3s.

[safe heart]

Imagine taking advice from bald

[late wraith]

that's true

[quaint rapids]

Isn't the only tank you run in bgs blood pretty much

[late wraith]

no he said this was all encompassing

[quaint rapids]

Because of the obnoxious cc

[late wraith]

so it's everything. we're bear in everything now buds

[velvet quest]

If supatease wore a wig I’d trust him

[random patrol]

prots war is alright it's not great

I just like sword and shield

prot pally more like a healer then normal tank

[velvet quest]

Prot war thematically most boring thing in game

[late wraith]

i would absolutely be bear in pvp and i'd make everyone in here so hateful. i'd do it because of that

[safe heart]

I don't think bear is even good in pve rn

[random patrol]

then prot solo qs weierd

bear is still fine just play ec bear

make everyone miserable

your frenzied regen is awful though

[late wraith]

i think brewmaster is the most miserable tank to find in areners.

they're just so annoying

no

i'm on a new hateful arc

i'm becoming bear in pvp cause supa said so

[random patrol]

brew is wierd for the longest time they had that strange knockback to themselves

also hot trub back when it was a thing

[velvet quest]

Bear is good when supatease raps about it

[random patrol]

supatease wearing a bear suit playing bear

would be hillarious

[late wraith]

[random patrol]

[safe heart]

We need that guy from shadowlands

Who came in when guardian was broken for 1 week

[quaint rapids]

Bring back guardian having dungeon boss levels of HP

[safe heart]

And was demanding bear was great in areno

[quaint rapids]

Btw, does LI do a whole lot currently, or is it mainly there to proc bt when you drop thrash?

[random patrol]

or my arena partner that got 2100 playing bear in 2s in sl season 4

meme bracket deserves meme comps

[safe heart]

It does okay

[quaint rapids]

As someone who's only a fringe pvper. It's really funny watching wow pvpers shit on every pvp mode except 3s

[safe heart]

It's cause 3s is the only real bracket

[quaint rapids]

Well, realistically the only real bracket should be SS

As it is solo queu

[late wraith]

ew

[quaint rapids]

But yeah exactly

[late wraith]

disgusting

[safe heart]

Shuffle is literally only good for queueing while wfh

[random patrol]

@quaint rapids I specialize in playing 2s as a chicken it's def a meme bracket

[quaint rapids]

You say that and everyone who's been playing for years starts vomiting

[rigid flower]

I just started playing druid last week, so I'm trying to amass information. I don't normally even watch Supatease, hence why I didnt know his name at first. I've really enjoyed bear in dungeons so far and was just kinda hoping it was play well in pvp because honestly, i'm tired of being a glass pea shooter as enhancement.

[random patrol]

why it's fun

still prefer 3s or solo though

[quaint rapids]

I don't disagree, the fact that carries happen there so often seals it

[clear pulsar]

Idk the energy escalated a lot there

[safe heart]

If he didn't elaborate in the video providing some much needed context for that statement , he's flat out wrong
You're being misled

[late wraith]

i mean i think you should do what you want and if you wanna play bear play bear. but i don't think it's going to be very fun tbh. if you wanna be a druid in pvp balance is good, feral is good.

[quaint rapids]

See

[random patrol]

I miss 5s they were hillarious

[clear pulsar]

Guardian is only gonna have any semblance of viability in battlegrounds. Tanks are very rarely any good at all in arena, guardian basically has never been.

[quaint rapids]

I also don't understand what is the problem with ss having access to glad mount

[late wraith]

counter: you'll be an r1 guardian druid at 2100.

[clear pulsar]

Mostly because the idea of being a tank doesnt play well into a game mode that is designed for characters to die

[random patrol]

to be fair I was always a fan of having dif tinted pvp mounts for every arena bracket

to increase participation

[quaint rapids]

Would be neat

[safe heart]

Plus in arena you take 50% bonus damage as a tank so like, you actually cost make your own healer go oom easily

[random patrol]

person likes one bracket they get a mount, someone wants to tryhard in 3 brackets more power to them

[weak moon]

Feral's dead

[quaint rapids]

But the feedback I hear mostly is "that's what saddles are for"

[rigid flower]

Counter counter, thor/piratesoftware/blizzards dejected child, is playing guardian in world pvp and loving it. But me thinks its cuz he has a pocket healer.

[safe heart]

I mean

Thor is a casual bro

[quaint rapids]

🤣

[safe heart]

Guardian in wpvp is literally just trolling ppl who are leveling

[rigid flower]

Thats fair, kind of.

[safe heart]

You can literally just walk away from bears in the wild

[clear pulsar]

Ig you need to tell me what your goal in pvp is and what game mode you like playing then

[rigid flower]

I want glad.

[safe heart]

KEK

[late wraith]

oh lord then not guardian lol

[rigid flower]

Lol

[safe heart]

Holy fuck

[clear pulsar]

When someone asks if a spec is A tier for PVP I dont assume they're talking about world pvp memes

I promise you you will not get glad as guardian druid in TeWaWi season 1

[safe heart]

Glad as bear actually impossible , no cap

[late wraith]

i was gonna ask if anyone ever did it

like phew

that'd be wild

[rigid flower]

Imma look and listen to what supa said again jus so i know why he said it

[clear pulsar]

It's only about battlegrounds

And running flag

[safe heart]

It honestly sounds like u skipped to the end and just looked at the finished tier list with no context bro

[rigid flower]

What if i did

[late wraith]

also tier lists mean nothing

good for memes though

and click bait

[late wraith]

relatable

[quaint rapids]

It will never matter to me mostly because I don't have the patience or skill to get 2400 in any bracket. But this mindset vs solo queue is crazy when looked through the lens of any other competitive game.

[safe heart]

It's really obvious that's what you did because there's no way supatease even remotely implied you could get anywhere in arena as a bear

Which I do the same thing

But

I've pvp'd alot and would never trust that ranking on its face

[late wraith]

i wanna see it

show me i love a tier list

[safe heart]

Bear has no redeemable qualities

[quaint rapids]

Wrong

[late wraith]

what the

[quaint rapids]

It can be a bear

[late wraith]

bear is so cute?

[safe heart]

Feral can be bear

[quaint rapids]

Shit u rite

[safe heart]

Feral is S+

[livid wasp]

why arent they touching affli locks btw the dmg is ridiculous

[safe heart]

Ultra plus

[rigid flower]

Kinda troll of him to put something in A just cuz it's good for 1 minor aspect of pvp.

[safe heart]

Sure is

[quaint rapids]

Main characters

[rigid flower]

I hate supatease now.

[safe heart]

But that's supateases brand

Supatease is clickbait God x

[late wraith]

look at my little baby, this is so cute and it matches me when i'm bear, it's crazy to think there's no redeeming qualities

[rigid flower]

[safe heart]

If u want the real shit

Find a wow pvp streamer who has like 70-200 viewers

Thats how you know they're good as fuck tbh

[rigid flower]

I dont watch twitch like that

[safe heart]

They'll give you the honest answer

Skip venruki staryu and pila

Pika

[rigid flower]

Youtube sometimes just clickbaits me

Bet.

[late wraith]

sometimes we simply get clickbaited

on the internet

pika is great to watch

[safe heart]

That's why if I played guardian I'd get glad

[tropic schooner]

easily

[late wraith]

eeeeasily

[livid wasp]

I wanna see snupy play skirmishes solo and see how he would do with random bad people

if he would lose like me

[tropic schooner]

shut up zechey

[late wraith]

hahahahhaha

[livid wasp]

yeah sure

if only

[velvet quest]

every tier list is wrong, you cant look at a list made by anyone and consider it anything other than a meme. it might have good bits of info in it but nobody is ranking all the specs against each other and getting them all "correct"

[late wraith]

snupy is just zechey if zechey wasn't mad all the time

it's just that attitude difference

[tropic schooner]

empty?

[velvet quest]

snupy is zechey but with hair

[tropic schooner]

I dont believe there is a zechey who isnt tilted

[late wraith]

snupy is zechey if he smiled once ever

[tropic schooner]

btw I think I need help I have like 6.5 chars setup for professions

[late wraith]

omg that's tragic

[late wraith]

ent i'm lost in it. i keep refreshing the ah to see if cloth is dropping so i can do my shard shuffle

i have lost track of what i'm doing so many times

[tropic schooner]

is the Ah even working in freedomland?

[late wraith]

yes

[tropic schooner]

heard it was down

[late wraith]

just came backl

[tropic schooner]

ah

[velvet quest]

this is what a server without zechey is capable of achieving

working auctionhouse

[tropic schooner]

wait shard shuffle?

the blue shard?

[late wraith]

yeah

[tropic schooner]

arent they like

10g

[late wraith]

the gold ones are 250-300

silver are like 12-14

[livid wasp]

depressing game

[tropic schooner]

🤔

[late wraith]

and copper are a loss so you need high enchanting

[tropic schooner]

the US is a wild place

[late wraith]

yeah they drop and then go back up

[tropic schooner]

im almost done setting up my rank 3 gem crafter

[late wraith]

they are currenrtly down for us too but not that down jeez

[tropic schooner]

lets find out if the investment was worth

[late wraith]

eu you good?

[tropic schooner]

literally everything crashed

cause our AH was not functional

for days

[late wraith]

but hasn't gone up again?

[tropic schooner]

not really no

[late wraith]

oh ours only was down for like half a day

and the prices are all over the place.

[late wraith]

cloth is like 11g a bolt rn

[tropic schooner]

dunno how your luredrop pigments are

pre AH crash

[late wraith]

luredrop high for us

[tropic schooner]

it was like 100+

for pigments

[late wraith]

and arathor's

[tropic schooner]

arathors like

30ish

[late wraith]

huh

US ah simply built diff

[tropic schooner]

these ones

are absolutely

fucked

I lost milloins on them

[late wraith]

i'll go check ours now

[quaint rapids]

I wish I had millions to lose

[velvet quest]

how do u have millions to lose what the

i lose 20k im in shambles

half my gold

[tropic schooner]

dont be poor

[late wraith]

yeah ent is on a different level i am too scared to invest big. i spent 10k on cloth and made 80k off it and was like i am the best gold farmer on earth

[quaint rapids]

If you don't care about kej, the gossomer egg sacs or w/e sell decently

[late wraith]

meanwhile dudes on the gold discord are making like 2 million profit a day

[quaint rapids]

Goblin mains

Built diff

[velvet quest]

i need kej i think for my little tailor army

im trying to set up like 20 of them for daily craft but idk if i go minimum effort or if i try to do weekly knowledge and get profession equipment

[tropic schooner]

whats your apricate ink + arathors spea price?

[tropic schooner]

hmm

so like ~900g crafting cost for a cipher

thats prolly worth

actually its more crafting cost

its tight margin

but prolly around 5-10% profit

[late wraith]

yeah i don't bother when it's that low right now though i'd be better off flying around picking herbs

like i don't have the gold to invest what it would take and then with how the market is, it'll crash before i'm done crafting it all

[random patrol]

I just flip stuff and sell level carries for gold

[tropic schooner]

we find out

if thats worth it

cause I honestly dont know, I think it is slightly

[late wraith]

i might do the storm dust shuffle again cause

[tropic schooner]

will report back

[late wraith]

actually just kidding i don't think this is worth

[tropic schooner]

you have a setup BS?

[late wraith]

yeah but i think i need to max her out

because i'm not getting nearly enough multicraft or resources back from core alloy. and the resources i get back are the fucking vendor one

[tropic schooner]

what are core alloys?

yea core alloy are worth for me... but very little

and they are fucking annoying to craft

[tropic schooner]

cause gotta use the item every 10 minutes

[late wraith]

ye

okay we're filling pvp with prof stuff and i'm sorry. but keep me posted on your flip, make gold., then send me some

invest in my small business

[tropic schooner]

[late wraith]

invest in me i'm so worth it

i swear i won't fuck it up and sell all my cloth i just bought for cheap i swear

[tropic schooner]

I so far have invested about 500k into a new JC

and I dont even know if its gonna be worth

[late wraith]

for what though what are you doing

[tropic schooner]

setting up rank 3 gem craft

[late wraith]

that seems insane. how is jc profitable

hmmm

[tropic schooner]

prospecting has been somewhat profitable for me

[late wraith]

same but i think i need more points to get better stuff

[tropic schooner]

that is actually

[kindred vigil]

Really?? Prospecting had always been a good way to lose gold it's felt

[late wraith]

i don't like the rng of that

[tropic schooner]

debatable

[late wraith]

how so?

[tropic schooner]

ive heard people argue more points is worse

cause you lose out on glass drops

[late wraith]

huuuuuuh?

oh shit

[tropic schooner]

I dont know how true that is but its hilarious

[tropic schooner]

that cheap?

damn

or is that just a few

[tropic schooner]

yea that checks out

[random patrol]

making a stone boi

[late wraith]

i've been looking at this trying to figure out how to make money off jc but it feels like everyhting is cheap so i dunno

[tropic schooner]

out of interest

what are phials

they also fucked?

[late wraith]

?

[tropic schooner]

oh

vial*

that one

gilded vial

[tropic schooner]

a tiny bit better

[late wraith]

us better than eu confirmed?

i can't believe we finally settled this

ancient debate

[tropic schooner]

for gold making?

yea

[late wraith]

and pvp because it's the same

[tropic schooner]

US tends to be easier

[late wraith]

that's why we're talking about it in the pvp channel

[tropic schooner]

its just easier to reach higher ranking in the US

[velvet quest]

NA wins skirms cause EU's team has zechey

[tropic schooner]

thats why its better

think most gold im currently making is with LW crafting that hide

[late wraith]

what hide tell me

tell me i don't impact you i'm us

[tropic schooner]

gimme a sec

dont remember the name

[tropic schooner]

not terrible

[tropic schooner]

usually just doing this craft

crafting the carapace-backed hide doesnt really feel worth cause bones are absurd

[late wraith]

sorry bb

[tropic schooner]

this is clearly on topic

[late wraith]

should i be bear in pvp?

is this better?

[tropic schooner]

AH way better pvp then zecheys skirmish adventures

[late wraith]

true tehre's no real pvp rn to talk about

[tropic schooner]

but yea also invested a fuckton of points

[late wraith]

that's what i actually need to do rn: go get all my profession points for the week