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feral absolutely
the most cringe apec
in this xpac
design is so cringe
i beat him obviously
no europoor can stand up
but mygod
i wanted to commit things
That’s why I can’t go back to Druid. I’m such a shit clone user
good dps will just let me fake at half 2-3 times and kick at 99% cast and then switch it up midgame so I dont know which to expect
I dont get this game
You put square peg in square butt
What else is there to it zecher
Just play DH zechey

he’s making himself sound way more Chad than he actually sounded. He sounded constipated and was whining about how cringe everything is

Kinda think dk is the worst dps in the game rofl

feral
Fury aug
Maybe fury isnt worse but the people that choose not to play arms definitely are
Feral
aug might actually be good again this ssn
:deadass:
feral not worse
feral atm is so shit
na
just because you see some rank 1 feral play well doesnt mean its good
Idk how aff lock does
I wish they removed clone right now
so I could just play without all this clone bullshit
aff assa rdru was def good last ssn
Yeah aff assa was legit
Let’s be real I’m the only victim here
shut up bitch
I gotta heal him
that’s all he wants
I gave you the
cuz I thought you beat that feral guy as fdk
no he beat the feral as feral
no was mirror
hwo tf u think i can beat fw feral as a dk in 2s

dk
Feel like frost dk needs PI in 2s lol
need pres or disc

twinkle gave me the reason
but i cant say here

Maybe it feels more impressive than it was cause my keybinds for that is cursed. Shift space -> ~ -> 2
that cant die
Fucking hell
Game's gonna be unplayable
@clear pulsar
In 2 weeks huh
When pres have their new tier
Real


I'm jamp
Feral so blessed
You can hold my pillar of frost
fdk the opposite of what Aug good for

Why do u need the str when ur running like a bitch for 40s until next go
we not remembering the same thing
and aug is like
another healer
perfect to help me live
He needs teh armor
Not the str
Uhdk Aug was popular
Xeek is xeek he can play anything
Fuji are you xeek?

Just cause u copy his mog don’t mean u can

feral is trash dont you get it

dw u get feral aug soon enough my boy
I played 2s for 20 mins as feral the other day
\
One game vs outlaw
One game vs enhance
I think I got 2 clones in 12 mins total
Between the 2 games
Correct
🤝
I'm the bait the hpriest is the real dps
Why do u care about what feral does ur a dk now Fuji
Remember when fuji was a ret pala?

I remember Fuji ret paladin. Fuji ww. Fuji sub
Couldnt be
dremel learned ret in 1 night
He boosted it
was quite legendary
And played it for 1 day
Yeah cuz he just accepts that he's autolosing
This is gonna be another season where my pve druid has better pvp gear tha nmy pvp druid
just dont pve
Pvp alt is a scam

SHUT THE FUCKJ UP
luxuriant soil is gone
grow up
Alt vault luck so triggering
Tiddy
I am pve ing
To PvP
When are the pve era gonna have to PvP to minmax pve
I decided to try and make a mock up Feral Wildstalker beta tree
In Shadowlands classic
I think I like the new tree?
I was looking at right side and was like what in the fresh hell is this, then on the left was like oh this some cat things
There we go 🙂
Now you may be horrified
Dog
this season has a lot of vers......
VERSATILITY
Is there a guide for balance or do I just need to lurk murlok.io to see what peeps are doing?
Or is balance out and all druids just play feral now?
Just talents/embellishment yeah
Ok that's what I figured but better to ask and look stupid then not ask and be stupid
Alright david
Time to oil up
no no no no no no
guardian hp is gloriously broken in assram
well yeah most tanks are broken in half in asshroom
surprisingly no, chaos bolt maybe hits 600k when you sport over 60% vers lol
meanwhile each tick of FR heals for 1.5M+, on top of all the other passive healing. fun being tankier than the bosses lmao
fr fr ong?
fr no cap
guys feral is good in rbgs?
boomy is favored in rbgs cause of it's aoe pressure and rot
feral can work but harder to get into a pug
unless you also tank
but you can join also with solo queues right?
Hi friendos, me and my friends are maining for s4:
Devoker - Feral - Fitsweaver
We are new to the comp, and are curious if there any pointers on how to play it (little footage online) - like kill setups,
I understand the logic of bait kicks, clone and kill, but if someone has more insightful tips, that would be greatly appreciated
dont play with fistweaver youre ruining the game for others
haha, why is that
nobody likes them
Thanks man thats helpful ❤️
Trihard
so if i understand correct, 3 focus same target and cross cc the two offtargs
oh hi firendo 🙂
yeah fair haha
historically? bruh u talk like devoker's been in the game for a decade lol
Dis guy strong brotha
Historically
Anything in the past
We in season 4
Its been out for a decade by now
Seen its uprise and its downfall
Smh
If I use the mastery item, to buy PVP shoulders, do they have the elite appearance?
Because that used to be the case last season
Need some prove to that
To risky haha
Or wait, couldn’t I buy it and just vendor back? I can. Right?
I dont think it gives the elite appearance
I looked on an alt
Where I only have the base color, no elite
And it says this
I don’t
Mhm, to bad, so no elite sneak
Where to even see how elite looks like? Didn’t find shit on it. Only found info for mounts and co
Thanks!
what is wrong with people in shuffle
2 games in a row someone leaves before the 6th round
i mean its just cringe when you were doing good and that cucks you out of a win
so like instead of going +500 i go +300
Yeah its unforch
is there any engineer helmet tinker good for balance druid in pvp ?
its ok went 6-0 and went from 1300 to 2k
I love these kickbot abusers
how am I supposed to play against them
fucking double shaman lobby too
a shaman in every game
how am I supposed to not go 2-4
I thought it was rdru that you hated
think you missed the recent memo
I’ve seen zechey complain about like 7 classes in a 30 min span
it’s actually impressive
spriests are so fucking tanky
how are you supposed to kill them
if they didnt have dispersion it would be doable
think zechey just doesnt like the game
that does nothing
???
I mean sp can live yeah but they sponge mana from the healer
If you clone on disperse , they don't recover and have nothing
im down to fucking 2050 mmr
If they life swap, just Korean swap that guy
feral is so trash now
whats your cr
1.4k
its fine kek
zechey WASHED
literally one 5 or 6 wins game and you get back to like 2100 mmr
but games go 2-4 or someone leaves when im losing
miike is so right
what are you doing here luds
wtf am I meant to do when I play on mugumbala and the healer just stands on top of stairs
I cant clone him
misclick
like when i cyclone the killtarget in solo shuffle
Just don't play into it
If they're obviously trying to make you run out in a bad spot , hit whoever closer
I hope wild attunement gets reworked for u zechey
I wish they just removed clone entirely
Idk if they really need to remove it
Even without wild attunement you still cycle clones on ppl
Nice to have free damage from it
give us instant clone on 20 sec cd so I dont have to get aids
idk how to play at all anymore idk why is it so hard
god no
Zechy if ur doing shuffle then there's like no logic or reasoning to anything that happens there
You signed up for clown circus that's what you get
That's why I queue as healer and tell ppl to roll 100
It's literally 6 people playing their own hero ball game
So they do stuff to make up for what they think your not doing
This is the yap channel
*griefer
What if I queued as healer and didn't make them roll but I only gave like 50% effort
Is that griefing
Where's the cut off
the cutoff is when you intentionally do it
im so sick of trying to cast clones every game im so tilted at this shit
What if I roll before the queue to see whether or not I'll do it
Or I'll roll a d100 and that's the effort I'll give
^
bro is the average league player but in shuffle
nah hes the worst kind of league player
the average league player tilts in a game
and loses cause of it
he does it before hand
Pre tilting is valid
not liek this
It's kinda like a peaceful protest
how is it peaceful
well if it was peaceful
Cuz I don't attack anyone
you'd make sure everyone goes 3-3 in the lobby
but as it stands you actively make people lose
I guess I could queue as dps and do that to healers
And force the 0-6 dps
Spare the innocent dps players
Tilt the healers
Less healers queue
And we all profit in 3s
no one wants to do 3s
Sounds like they're basically doing that anyway
So if nothing matters anymore may as well just troll the bracket
I mean I'm not gunnna get a glad mount in 3s or shuffle so what do I care
it might not matter to you but it matters for the other 5 people you're holding hostage
yea you gotta carry 3v3 not 4v2
If you're good you would win
It's solo queue
Win solo or die tryin
Tbf i actually do try my best to win when I'm on my dps
And sometimes the healers tilt and won't play
So when they do that I just afk as well and save the electrons
you deserve that
ive literally never had that happen
how hard did you flame the healer for this to happen
well everyone except for you in that lobby thats the thing
One time I didn't disperse so he linked me the ability 50 times in a row and then afk'd during my rounds
I don't press disperse one time so that means I deserve to lose 3 rounds with afk healer
Sounds about as fair as me rolling 100
so because someone was an ass you become one too
No I was doing this before that
imo while obviously they were wrong
you are more wrong
thats some 2010 xbox modern warfare kinda mentality
the reasoning being is that they, while a bad, at least have a reason to specifically tilt in that instance
you dont even have a reason you just have main character syndrome
so are you?
Not to me I'm not
so basically that yes
They're never gunna see me again, I'm never gunna see them again
I'm not saying I'm not wrong to do it
And I don't do it often
you're heavily implying it
Well then for the record
Ppl shouldn't intentionally throw solo shuffles
Let it be known
I just think shuffle ruined thr game
So
why did it ruin the game
it just feels like this current version of feral makes you require to have deep understanding of the game and be some pro
based
If fuji says cringe
i endorse
I will stop
The King has spoken
whats the point in living
explain
outlast other ppl
zzz bracket
also rdru not nearly as punishabled in shuffle
cuz mana not nearly as big of am issue
so u have healers with little counterplay compared to 3s
Plus you're playing a whack fucking comp half the time
Plus you're encourage to just blast all ur cds in the first 20 seconds like a chimp

Youre BANNED

Lmao pykan
tbh I wish it didnt exist
it would make feral unplayable and I wouldnt have to play this shit
Another start of season

another disgusting SS experience
worst part is not stopping with those shit lobbise and just queuing next then next game youre really angry and you just do random shit and try to win
ngl, i really dont get triggered in my losses like i used to, most of the time i can pick what i did wrong
or sometimes it is out of my hands so nothing i can do anyway
^
im on the verge of /afking out 24/7
The SS spiral!
Getting rating is fun on a dps. On a healer it’s annoying.
you just need to stop playing the game for a bit
you've been mental booming for like 2 weeks straight
kek
He was actually worse
hows that possible
Completely out of touch with how regular human beings behave
i need the sauce
nah stopping wont help
ive never been broken as much as by this current feral
14 years of pvp and no worse times
Feral not good rn?
It's a long story
I’m sitting on the toilet, I got time
Jkjkjkjk
Well not really but I don’t need to know it all. It’s alllll good
Tldr
Current feral is forced to cast cyclones non stop so it's really annoying for everyone involved and feral is unreasonablely squishy rn so you just auto die to air
just read the last 1000 messages of zechey and youll get his opinion about the last week queuing
Ya I played with a feral in SS. First two rounds they kept trying to cast clone in a melee lobby. Just got deleted each time out of form
wasnt the complaint early this expac is that was just an aoe dmg bot spec
kinda funny how feral in pvp is the opposite of pve, its basically unkillable in m+/raid while boomy is made of paper but in arenas its the complete opposite
In s1 yeah
Feral was just aoe cleave spec
But now it's like , you have to spam clones to do dmg outside of incarn
Idek what that means
Unkillable in pve
if you manage to die with free regrowths / SI / bark you're trolling
if u say so
or your healers are afk
Well in arena if your healer isn't literally blasting themselves oom healing you, you're dead
yea in arena feral is literal paper
You don't have defensives that are reasonable to use
Walll is wayyyy too long of a cd for what it is
And barkskin isn't enough
And bear form is meme
And mobility has become meme
Shit mass entangle is probably a better defensive than walll right now
feral atm is like if youre really good at the game then its good but for others its a terrible experience
so many people stopping your clones and then you have to know when its best to just stop casting and go defensive cause youre squishy as fuck as well
I died like 2-3 times in these 4 sessions cause I was tilted as shit and just kept trying to clone
and you have to fakecast all the time and some people are just pros and always kick at 1%
so frustrating when nobody gets faked
feral and boomie are the top for more squish in pve no? lol
topping the death meters in raids
I don't bother bear forming outside of regen behind pillar
at this point just sit in boomy form and die faster pretty much
idk about feral but yea boomy is up there with like healer priests and devokers
predicting it now, conquest cap removed in 2 weeks
what mana water works in pvp
i have 200 in bag from last season and it wont let me use it in solo shuffle
o yea no drinking in solo shuffle
I bought 2500 in S1 and I’m still working my way through them. Granted I didn’t play S2 and came back the last month of S3
You can
It’s just modified to 0% mana lol
And 5% health & only mage food
I should be able to make this for free on me evoker. Just spit in a cup and good to go right ?
fuhhh
It’s also 3 min max, unless there’s a mage. In which case it’s going to 80% damp and healing is irrelevant… no need to drink anyhow. Just make sure you use your clear casts, aren’t playing germ and you’re not going oom. Mana is a 3s problem, and oh boy is it a real problem
for resto is it worth using some of the old tier items to keep the 2/4pc?
yea for sure 
what's the haste cutoff for resto druids, strictly for Bg's, idc about arenas so mastery isnt as important
dragon spittle bathwater when
@viscid remnant come put your bed beside mine in minecraft
@vestal citrus you can have spot beside David

What if I get murdered by a hunter that hits me for a 2.5m sniper shot

when you want to q but everyone you know is doing solo q
all pvp gear has vers tho, impossible to avoid. I always have like 40% vers
I'm cooking something for you
we are pogging
proud of u enji keep slamming

maybe i will make it to 1k cr on sp after all
I hate it how being honor capped makes getting honor in bgs not count towards the quests
how does rising light, falling night work in pvp
Just treat it as flat damage.
But it works the same way as in PvE.
so assume 3% dmg and healing at all times?
If it's not currently the vers half of the day.
Thats not how it works in pve lol
Its april 2024 and that one wowhead comment from cata is still up
I cant believe this
Aaaaaaaaa
i wanted to test mmr after placement, shit doesnt work
Elaborate
elephorate
I still have yet to get my elephant 😦
is that this seasons mount ? or some dragonflight achievement
._.
Im expecting one soon from the botswanian president
really? where would you keep it tho
but it's too big for just one room???
it will grow???
thats fine



It just came to me
Pvp elite set isnt the same mog voted by the community
We're keeping the s3 one
For pvp rewards for some reason
yea its dumb af
mogged
is base conquest same appearance as community voted, or is that also s3?
s3
This is good tho cause I had fomo from not getting 1800 mogs on priest and other classes last season and now I can still get them
what if you didnt get the sets from s1
Then ur fucked
Guess you better start pve ing ?
Ilevel only applies for legendary or very rare items, so evokers hunters and 2h people
Just do 10s ez
What if I’m trash at pve 🤷♂️
You need 60 aspect crests and 60 wyrm crests that zechey prob wont get early on
So thats 5 keys of each lvl
Yeah I think +6 gives aspect
Doable
ye feral can only get 528. its just legendary users who get that big NOT FAIR
pvpers with the lego 2h have to do keys my heart breaks for all the ret warriors out there
do we already know if neltharax will be better than like the pvp bow just because of ilvl ?
is a 535 weapon with an extra proc better than a normal 528 weapon its hard to say really
Oh no

The tragedy
i can't have the wrong stats in a season where 3/4 stats will probably be at first DR
pve items in pvp are back woohoo
I thought you just get it from one lfr boss maybe you gotta complete it
now wiping on raszageth
lfr had like a .000001% chance of dropping it if u actually wanted it u needed to kill the heroic version like 14 weeks in a row
it was acutally much, much worse than this
for the legendary last ssn?
talking about the current one
Hes talking about bullions rn
i got a bullion from my 1st boss kill ithink but idk how exactly it works
yeah I got it
from raszageth
they probs changed it to avoid first boss leavers
hate to admit how much fun I had wiping with the lfr group until we got it kek
took me back to mythic days
cyclone
@iron marten what are you doing here again
was looking for u hun
whats the rating looking like
rating not mmr bro
Traitor
How are people getting tier chest and legs first week
1 from achieve token, 1 from catalyst
How are they converting the chest though if they can’t buy a trophy of strife chest this week are they just spending conquest and buying the chest?
yea
hi ludspaw :)
Heiii :3
Hope you're well, I go sleep, have a lovely Sunday sunshine
I'm good hope u have sweet dreams 💚 nini
Oh
@vestal citrus
c-c-c-cummy
LMAOO
hahahahhaa
kidnapped to OCE unforch
Formy lost it
holy shit man my first game was 1-5 too youre gonna have a bad time
it happens boys
is there a guide on optimal order to buy gear for resto*
Rdruid healing stat hasn’t changed from S3 right?
Do you pve?
i do! mostly m+
Idk if theres a particularly best order to buy things, I'm gonna be buying wrists belt and cloak with trophies of strife next week, then whatever big slots I dont get on vault if I get any with conquest
If you're down to get the bullions and upgrade all the way up
Then you should just buy a weapon with that
And that saves you 1800 conq
I need to look into these. No clue what they are or how to get them.
rad, ok thanks!
Kill a few raid bosses on the awakened raid next week, get 2 bullions and buy weapon
Then you need 60 crests of drake, wyrm, aspect
and are we going haste vers or do we like other stats for pvp better?
sick thanks!
The drake crests idk how to get except that I just have a ton of them from anything
Wyrm is from keys up to +5, aspect from +6 on
Awesome thanks.
Balancing that Resto in PvP and tanking in PvE. A lot are being humbled by the key changes.
I dig it
How often do ya’ll wild growth in 3s I feel like I never use it unless I’m playing against aff
Also would anyone have a link to the WA necessary for cancelling treants
You’re a stud ty
Been playing this build in shuffle this ssn, I feel like bleeds are coming back a bit due to higher healthpools. You guys think that this is gonna be okay when we get the 2 set bonus this week? Or will bite build still be better?
big bites are one of the only good things about feral imo
there is no bleed build
its only about bites
With this bleed build I'm still hitting bites for around 150-200k, and get free ones often with Apex. I find the dmg output and constant pressure has won me more games thus far than trying to get big bites off on tanky targets
any preference for trink slots on resto? I have the medallion, what's the second?
Especially while always playing defensive because feral is constantly the kill target
Can you show dmg breakdown of one of ur games with high pressure bleeds?
For sure, once I'm home from the gym I'll play a round and post it in here
This is just bite build with rng bite procs
Not even playing swarm with "bleed" build
in current state of feral
if bite/ff isnt 1/2
ur trolling a lot
so i assume hes kinda trolling
The #5 feral in NA is running this aoe build so idk if it's troll, I was genuinely asking if its viable or worth, not trying to say it's BIS
REAL
could have been a demo lobby or something
i dont even think ppl play pw anymore
I played big bite for all of S3 and got to Rival II, but I've been struggling to get the damage off and have it be meaningful this ssn. Maybe it's just lack of tier set, but I find with higher health pools that bleed sustain might not be so bad
Idk, just curious. I miss SL feral
There’s higher health pools but also everyone does more dmg. I’m pretty sure dmg scales harder than hp pool with ilvl gain as well
I mean like bottom line is you can't honestly call it a bleed build and not take the single talent that made the shadowlands bleed style feral viable in the first place lol
Pw with king of the jungle isn't a bad play just to help you live but apparently apex doesn't even benefit from Saber jaws
Think higher health pools everyone having a lot of vers and no tier bonuses is skewing how pace of the game feels. Can change by week 3 when everyone has guaranteed 4pc
The closest ur gunna get to SL bleed build is like remove all the pw / double rake
And get LI , swarm, 2/2 CI and dire
Or maybe you could meme unbridled swarm with pw lol
Might be funny to play beekeeper
Next expac might be bleedier
Here's hoping
Excited for the slow paced games on Tuesday when my rsk hits 20% harder plus another 10% or so from better gear
You're banned
Why am I banned
I was hitting a mage and all my homies hate mages
I should get promoted
Yeah but the build is all about getting bites from the aoe
Not to kill with the bleed
Getting bites from aoe rip+apex kinda contradicts playing tow though where you’d be spamming pw and overwriting
wait really? Apex doesnt benefit from SJ?
apparently no
awe lame
So this is the #5 feral and his build which I'm kinda mimicking
#6 is running it as well
Lemme try a lobby with that build, and then another with big bite and share damage overviews
There's no difference between ur build and the bite build
If rip is above bite and ff , then you're cleaving pets
Right
either way, it is cleaving pets
I mean its just to get bites
And it procs a lot of decent bites
The cleave is irrelevant
Cleaving pets is pure meter pad
More rips on pets = more free bites
Yes
same goes for monk clones
Its just to get more bites
and mage images
Those bites are not boosted by the talent that makes them good
It's just a shuffle dmg bot build
It's not new tech or anything
I play thar build vs demo and bm
But just bite-bot for everything else ig
Maybe I'm not understanding what ur meaning or something I guess
Cuz the pw build was the season 1 default but now we have wild attunement so now we clone spam
Idk, I guess just want to know if PW is now a viable alternative for the boring clone spam/big bite build
Oh
lol
And it's probably ok
feel like*
But wild attunement + big chonp is the only reason feral is viable
Maybe more bleed builds next xpac /shrug
You could try playing pw build with like an afflock or sp
And that might be decent
But aoe dot kinda doesn't vibe with clone spamming ppl
Maybe, but at that point the aff/sp will just do the passive cleave for you while you just big bite to finish
you're right
Now as for the bite build
worth putting only 1 point into CI to lose 6% dmg in exchange for Apex?
Like so?
Or is Apex not really worth, and probably better to just get the 2nd CI point?
Do not play apex ever if you don't have pw
fair
2/2 ci
Thats cap
7.2%
The bites are whatever
Do Apex bites benefit from Sabre Jaws?
Ferals > all your damage is bite now
Also ferals > bite procs are whatever
Dont think most play apex any more though
I think Apex would help you out a lot in games where you're struggling to maintain uptime cuz you get stopped on a bunch of clones and lose a lot of globals
most of my games tbh because feral always kill target
It means you can spend your cps more freely and still have a bite to press once you do get the wild attunement proc
I don't find I have that problem so maybe it's just me
Pvpers never did play apex
We played apex s1?
I know, I never did either except S1
I got to Rival+ every season since SL s1 on feral
I swap between LI and PW based on if I'm gunna get 4 stacks of king
I just wanna try something new because this build is zzz
Try the boombox build
I hate playing without LI
Where you are a feral but you only cast wrath and starsurge with convoke
bruh what
lol
just play boomkin at that point haha
It's great for killing critters around town
hahaha
Boomy convoke was fun as fuck when playing guardian druid in rbg
Random guy tries to take base, moonkin form convoke
Hype
No, I came here with the PW build, no sabre jaws and veinripper
Take out* apex, go 2/2 ci
Then pick pw or li based on how many things you think you can cleave
Yeah maybe it is a me issue, I always found that difficult in shuffle when I'd keep trying to clone and when I got it my bleeds would have dropped and I had to put up Rip, wanted to Maim, and Bite is the only spell that does damage
Does Resto need any of this PvE gear that other classes/builds need or can I just send full conq gear with a few crafted items?
pw without apex kinda pointless though unless running king of the jungle
That's what I was just saying
If I can get 4 stacks of King, I'll play pw
I never spec apex
ah
I'm very curious what people are saying you need from PVE, just the legendary weapons for Evoker and 2h str classes? The thing is PVEing will speed up your gearing, thats always been true, but there isnt anything particularly OP from PVE.
You can get a guaranteed max ilvl weapon without spending conquest on it next week if you wanna PVE
Sometimes I get caught without a way to spend wild attunement but that's only eve happens when ppl are like barreling stops into me
Its not particularly better than a conquest weapon tho, just speeds up your gearing
More so with skimming through and reading on bullion, some legendary weapons other classes use. Nothing crazy but wanting to make sure
Nah anything special we could use is omega nerfed in pvp
So its just pmuch a regular weapon you'd be buying
It's the same as everyone else can do
It takes 1 LFR wing and 10 keys
Not at m10 yet
A sum of 10 total keys
Ah. Alright. I am still on the fence if I want to tank or heal m+
Probably tank because it’s easier and I heal dps enough in SS lol.
I rly like healing m+ but not in pugs, tanking pugs much more chill
Bear feels super tanky so it's all in my hands
no
cuz ur essentially doing the same thing
with clone giving u free ff and shit











