pvp

[polar nymph]

Because those are the ppl that play Havoc

We can hit similar numbers with Bite now though

[livid wasp]

wonder if its better to just st with jungle now if its not something with a lot of pets

[polar nymph]

I'm thinking it may be that way

Maybe you'll swap something in to Rip and Tear for some comps

[livid wasp]

or maybe bite heavy build not that good against plate comps

gosh why cant we have old talents back

[polar nymph]

Potentially

[livid wasp]

so much more straightforward

[polar nymph]

Eww

Fwiw you'll probably not be changing talents around much this tier

A lot of people also tend to overcomplicate picking talents too

[livid wasp]

pretty strong on clothie

[polar nymph]

🙂

A DH just did 3.4m damage to everyone in 15 secs

I don't wanna play no more 😦

[livid wasp]

will see when season actually starts

[grand mesa]

Zechey being optimistic?

[polar nymph]

I think he's enjoying the big bites

[livid wasp]

dunno

ive only done skirms and its mostly double melees think I just wanna cleave into it

or then I just play something like this

[polar nymph]

That should work

Or swap Saber Jaws in to Double-Clawed since they don't buff Apex procs for some reason

Unless you still manually bite too

[livid wasp]

sometimes

[polar nymph]

Worth it then

[livid wasp]

thought it buffs apex procs too

[polar nymph]

Dunno why it doesn't

[livid wasp]

would be too broken maybe

[polar nymph]

I know they said it's intended but the reason is dumb

[whole wyvern]

Why no double rake

[polar nymph]

Just another one of their silly friction rules they only ever apply to Feral on no other spec in the game

[livid wasp]

dunno is double rake that useful

[polar nymph]

Helps you spread faster

[livid wasp]

can just rake again to build combos

[polar nymph]

Also lets you double stun

[livid wasp]

yeah like idk

then gotta drop dire fixation

if I want it

[whole wyvern]

Don't really need Saber in cleave

[main sierra]

Christ they keep moving talents around every patch getting real tired of this as a resto druid

[livid wasp]

you sure?

[polar nymph]

I wish they'd move talents around in the class tree

[livid wasp]

15% more dmg to apex bites

[polar nymph]

Not apex

[livid wasp]

and buffs rip dmg

sabertooth

also its a must pick to get forward

[whole wyvern]

Not if you pick double rake

[polar nymph]

For me if I have Saber I'd swap Tear in to Double, that's me though

[livid wasp]

nah

id have to take protective growth if not sabertooth

[polar nymph]

Saberjaws sorry

Forgot both start with saber

[livid wasp]

oh fuck I thought you meant sabertooth

tantify

[polar nymph]

I'd never drop that 😛

[whole wyvern]

Don't need dire in cleave either imo

[livid wasp]

I mean sure saber jaws for rake but what if you want a cleave build that can also do st dmg idk

[polar nymph]

For that I just run base Primal Wrath and single target inbetween applying rips

Since it's honestly the cheapest energy cost build

Which means higher Bites

[livid wasp]

idk anymore

[polar nymph]

If it helps to explain things, ST build just swapped out Carnivorous for Saber instead

[whole wyvern]

Oh it is okay I missed this too lol

I use double rake and sudden ambush in cleave dire and saber jaws in ST

[polar nymph]

Sudden Ambush has high value with Double Rake

Both targets get hit with the buffed Rake.

[livid wasp]

I never looked at sudden ambush even though I have the weakaura

[whole wyvern]

Where does the fire somowl drop anyone know

[livid wasp]

raid

[whole wyvern]

Dang

[whole wyvern]

Any difficulty

[livid wasp]

idk

[whole wyvern]

Okay thanks

[hollow condor]

It might be any difficulty if it follows the same rules as the previous raids with the skin stuff

[whole wyvern]

I played so many alts in s2 not sure how I got pathfinder but I did XD

[tardy hare]

Ye i only had to do like 2 chapters of zaralek

Cant even remember doing anything in zaralek

Xd

[whole wyvern]

[sand panther]

The verdant combatant crafted gear available on AH for lots of money right now - strictly worse than just buying full honor gear next week, right?

[sand panther]

Cool - just making sure. Man I have nothing to do this week... capped out on what I can gain in terms of rep (annoyingly at 9.1 renown... would have to farm a million blooms to get to 10)... just, nothing to do 😛

[whole wyvern]

Level a class you have never played learn something new

Tuesday will be here soon enough

[sand panther]

Well yeah - I'll finish leveling my lock and hunter, though I doubt I'll do anything on them until maybe very late season

[whole wyvern]

Or take a long nap

[clear fox]

Collect xmog / mounts ?

[whole wyvern]

11 change going to So nice to get all armor sets when collecting drops

so happy to have my normal flight form back

[safe heart]

whatchu talkin bout

hate when feral streamers use jmorph ngl

[late wraith]

Gm gamers

[tardy hare]

I have started to enjoy watching netflix series

And then find out they are discontinued

Its amazing

Every series i get into

Haha

No season 2

[grand mesa]

What was it this time

I still can’t get over mind hunter

[tardy hare]

La revolution

And another one before that

Theyre not new new though

Ah ye 1899

Was the other one

Season 1 whole buildup of mysterious shit

Final eps shit comes together

Opening for the big thing

Cancelled

REEEEEEEEE

Netflix lists them as mini series

Like sure few eps closed story good great

Jk theyre unfinished

[clear pulsar]

Thats fucked up

[whole wyvern]

Gm gamer

[whole wyvern]

Same

[whole wyvern]

What series

Cancel

That

I missed your response

Xd

[grand mesa]

GM FRIENDS

[whole wyvern]

Gm friend

[late wraith]

For the transmog wanters

[safe heart]

im not doing that
thats literally cheating

[viscid remnant]

[whole wyvern]

yeah sounds like it could get reverted if you do it

[late wraith]

How is it cheating?

Oh I guess if you put this season’s new shit in

[safe heart]

hold on let me cook

[late wraith]

I dunno if that works I’m gonna do last season stuff to finish my sets

[whole wyvern]

it might get reverted because you are exploiting infinite charges which isn't normal

[late wraith]

I dunno if they care about the mog part though?

[whole wyvern]

probably not but it would be more of a principle thing

[late wraith]

I have no principles though I just want shiny items

I want my little pixels to look cute in

[whole wyvern]

[late wraith]

Enji said he was cooking

[safe heart]

yea i hope its pizza rolls fr fr

[late wraith]

Waiter it’s been 4 minutes

Me and my family are very important and we’re starving

[whole wyvern]

does anyone know a healthy alternative to gatorade with less sugar and bad stuff?

[viscid remnant]

drink water

[grand mesa]

I’m pretty sure infinite charges exists in SL’s catalyst

Maybe new policy for retired content

[late wraith]

Pedialyte

[whole wyvern]

all i drink is water i need something with electrolytes and all the other stuff

had a stomach bug

[viscid remnant]

put a bit of salt in ur water

[late wraith]

Pedialyte freezies they are so good and they make you feel better after sick

[whole wyvern]

[clear pulsar]

Infinite charges is normal

[late wraith]

These mfers gaslamped me into thinking I’m a cheater

[clear pulsar]

For old seasons

[whole wyvern]

cool thanks for the clarification didn't know

[clear pulsar]

It existed for s1 of DF items alreadh too

You can use c atalyst on forbidden reach items for normal and heroic mogs from first raid

[late wraith]

It’s 8am and I got called a cheater over standard shit what in the helllll mods? Help?

[clear pulsar]

Or just regular items from that raid too ofc, but forbidden reach being farmable

[clear pulsar]

I got ur back bb

[late wraith]

Ty face 💖

[grand mesa]

8am being told you are a cheater and to drink water

Lmao

[whole wyvern]

[velvet quest]

Yeah beavs stop being such a thirsty cheater

[late wraith]

What theeeeeeee

[grand mesa]

Thirsty salty cheater

[late wraith]

I am kinda dehydrated right now

Tee bee hache

[whole wyvern]

Now we know the truth

Beavs has been botting on ele this entire time

[velvet quest]

Nah not a botter but clearly unethically exploiting infinity currency hack to collect transmog which is an even worse offense

[whole wyvern]

#pvp message

[safe heart]

I learned boomkin is op today because the anima edamame gave me a super power (cannot be wielded permanently because it's too powerful) and that power (its extremely op needs to be limited severely) is to be a boomkin with a 1 button rotation

[young slate]

can i send links here?

[velvet quest]

Sarcasm smh my head

[whole wyvern]

Sorry my brain doesn't work sometimes lol

[whole wyvern]

What kind of link do you have

[young slate]

just youtube

a link from snupy

is a dumb question that i gotta do xd

[whole wyvern]

Is there something you need to ask about one of his videos

[young slate]

is just about his movements

every time he pressed

or he is attacking

he presses A D

like a maniac

[young slate]

to move i mean

[whole wyvern]

Yeah most ferals do that to keep a sense of pace and momentum so caster specs to it as well

[young slate]

while he is doing his rotation he is moving left and right, is there an explanation for that? xd

[whole wyvern]

To press abilities in between jumps etc

[late wraith]

The feral wiggle I hate it

[young slate]

ahhhhh

[whole wyvern]

^

[late wraith]

When I see that I’m like who do you think you are honestly quit that right now

But also you could think of it like they’re doing that really cute cat butt wiggle thing

[velvet quest]

Pressing adadad makes me do more dmg tho u can tell cause my keyboard is making more noise

[young slate]

XD

[whole wyvern]

Skill capped actually made a video on the A D spam and jump between spells (for casters) pacing thing lol let me see if I can find it

[late wraith]

This used to be a mage thing too no? Jump between every spell?

[whole wyvern]

No

More for support dps

[late wraith]

What theeeee

[whole wyvern]

And things things with a lot of instants

You can do it on like fire mage during burst window etc

[grand mesa]

My feet are on the ground less than half the arena as ele

And rdruid

[late wraith]

I never jump

[whole wyvern]

But not like you can on proc classes like boom ele and hunter

[late wraith]

I refuse

[grand mesa]

It honestly gets me into trouble

[late wraith]

“You can press more” leave me alone

[grand mesa]

I want to tranq damage or a cc but I’m mid air

[late wraith]

Mind your business

[grand mesa]

@stray sigil

[clear pulsar]

Its a mage thing to avoid hardcasting pyro

[grand mesa]

I always strafed my combust I could never jump while combusting

[fair mirage]

As Face says it can help avoiding hardcasting pyro.

[late wraith]

i knew it. second gaslamp of the day, unreal behavior in dgpvp this morning.

[fair mirage]

Ele funny just jumping around slinging out meatballs.

[grand mesa]

I can’t wait for 2pc 4pc as ele man

I’m gonna crank

Send a wittle ele blast on every p wave. Cleave a bunch more meatballs. CDR pwave back faster than last season.

[grand mesa]

Are u a strafe buster or a jumpbuster

[clear pulsar]

I only played mage once

In my entire life

On tournament realm

Vs cdew mes trill

Round 2 of awc open bracket

I died before I could bust

[velvet quest]

Man that’s rude of them now we’ll never know if face is a jump buster

[grand mesa]

Be a strafebusters. Jumpbusters are all like look at me

I’m busting

Lame

[clear pulsar]

I'll keep it in mind

Ty

[tardy hare]

La revolution and 1899

both watched recently and was like

hmmm these actually interesting wonder when s2 will air!

Cancelled

[velvet quest]

Can u watch boomkin so that spec can get cancelled too

[whole wyvern]

I enjoyed 1899

Haven't seen la revolution

[tardy hare]

ye i liked 1899

BUT THEN THERES NO S2

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[whole wyvern]

But dark is probably my favorite series on Netflix

[tardy hare]

I will try my best

[whole wyvern]

So some bias there

[tardy hare]

idk none of these are my "favorite"

just enjoyed them recently only to be left with a hole

[whole wyvern]

I like stuff that twists your brain and you have to watch more than once

[late wraith]

you know what is a full show available on netflix right now?

that's right it's gilmore girls.

[whole wyvern]

I have seen all of Gilmore girls

[late wraith]

it's rewatch season baby

[tardy hare]

You know what it's not time for?

Gilmore Girls

[late wraith]

boo

boo this man

did they end up cancelling dark? i never finished that i kinda want to go back to it

but if they cancelled it i'm not gonna

[whole wyvern]

My favorite line is when when lane is sitting on the bench and says "Comtemplating the reunification of the two Koreas."

[late wraith]

lane is so good. shame she dates the worst guy on the entire show.

[grand mesa]

Dark finished

[whole wyvern]

It was completed 100% worth finishing

[late wraith]

okay sick i'll watch that

[grand mesa]

It was the one after that got cx

[late wraith]

that show was so good and spooky

[grand mesa]

Dark was very good

Probably one of my favorites on Netflix

[late wraith]

niceeeeee

i liked what i watched but i caught up at some point

[whole wyvern]

my wife watches gg all the way through every fall

[late wraith]

and then i think i started watching the sopranos

[grand mesa]

Def not side monitor show tho

[late wraith]

me too

[late wraith]

no you gotta read it i don't speak.. dutch? is it dutch?

[grand mesa]

Germish

[velvet quest]

I’ve been side monitor watching the wire and now I feel like I need to rewatch the past 3 seasons

[grand mesa]

But the English dub isn’t bad that’s how I watched

I didn’t even realize it was dubbed when I first started watching lol

I thought it was odd the subtitles weren’t matching the spoken words one for one lol

[clear pulsar]

[safe heart]

anyone interested in a couple 2s wins

for the daily

i need 2x on rsham and 1x on mw

[grand mesa]

Whatsup face

[livid wasp]

theres no way the drop rate is 30%

for the travel form appearances

[viscid remnant]

Spiderface

[safe heart]

didnt anniefuschia get glad

or is she r1 world quester like eiya

[fair mirage]

Yeah, technically.

[fair mirage]

Just be luckier.

[gaunt flare]

just finished Loki

holy shit is that an amazing show

too bad the movies have all been trash lately

[tiny oar]

day 3 of farming
no marks in sight
losing hope

[whole wyvern]

is it really good?

[gaunt flare]

honestly right up there with endgame on impact to the universe and storytelling

[livid wasp]

I finished it too it was great

compared to trash theyve been releasing lately

[gaunt flare]

honestly might be my favorite piece of MCU

[whole wyvern]

That is why I was asking

Literally everything has been not bad but terrible

[low glacier]

does anyone have the clip of @tardy hare palying bear with steering wheel

[grand mesa]

https://www.twitch.tv/machtig_leider/clip/BetterFlirtyTrayTooSpicy-78YQPe_QzlMLuRu-

[whole wyvern]

[livid wasp]

god I hate idiots who play stuff like locks in skirmishes

so broken

[stray sigil]

@clear pulsar is it worth losing tier for wm gear

[whole wyvern]

Ready to lock with me for fls next season

Considering wm gear is 13 ilvls higher with higher primary stat your tier set bonuses dont really matter in that light

[stray sigil]

that seems kinda huge

hammers are 100% crit

[whole wyvern]

What do you crit for on that

[stray sigil]

like 100-120k

hammers biggest holocaust dmg

[viscid remnant]

Nah bro

U are

[clear pulsar]

Thats not with the 50% nerf in pvp right? Idk I feel like that's worth a bit more damage than the ilvls you get from the gear upgrades

Maybe

[viscid remnant]

[stray sigil]

ye thats pre pvp nerf i think

[viscid remnant]

Go hit a dummy

Dummy

[stray sigil]

u think i farmed like taxes 2k tokens

i dont have the wm gear

[viscid remnant]

[clear pulsar]

Hm

Idk really, 23-26 ilvls on 2 pieces should be close to 5% damage overall

So maybe its just better

To upgrade the gear

[stray sigil]

[whole wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/luh-calm-fit-opium-bird-meme-from-2029-luh-meme-gif-8892337737798381438

[livid wasp]

why do I always get the guy who does 0 dmg in skirmishes

[spring bone]

Do you need to cancelaura treants or something to shadowmeld>prowl? Seem to be having issues getting into stealth

[stray sigil]

treants put u in combat yes

[livid wasp]

why are other classes allowed to have shit like evasion and burrow in skirmishes

its so unfair the matches are so quick

I have fucking nothing

[grand mesa]

@clear pulsar did anyone find a dismiss treant weakaura yet. I will do unspeakable things to get one

[stray sigil]

not rdru main btw

[grand mesa]

I’m not

[stray sigil]

say wallahi

[grand mesa]

Never

[clear pulsar]

I've no idea

[grand mesa]

Or macro

[livid wasp]

why does feral have no defensives

why does rogue have evasion and bleed dispel second evasion

and ele shaman has 100% better heals, 12 second wall on short cd and a bubble

[grand mesa]

When you come out of that bubble it hits for 130k too 🤣

[livid wasp]

im running natures vigil it heals for fucking 70k

its whole duration during burst

[grand mesa]

That’s a third of my one healing surge

If HS crits

[livid wasp]

how am I supposed to live in skirmishes

I just fucking cant

such a glass cannon

[edgy shale]

using nv

[livid wasp]

need to have it for some heals in skirmish

but it does almost fucking nothing

now

[tender plank]

is there anything i need to do ready for the new PVP season aside from honor cap?

[clear fox]

Do the intro quests for the new zone and complete the worthy ally & dreams unified quests

Which will get you your complete first spark of dreams to craft an item next week

Outside of that not really, since you can just get the bloody tokens next week alongside the trophies it’s not really needed to do now if you don’t want to. But if you want doing some world PvP most pits might save you a little time next week, just don’t spend the bloody tokens till then

[tender plank]

Thanks alot, exactly what i was looking for

[tardy hare]

Yall got this clip on speed dial

[low glacier]

ty

[late wraith]

Lol what is the phone ringing sound is that your ui or an actual phone ringing

[tardy hare]

oh no I tried to add some WA

that would ring a phone whenever an enemy was within 10 yards

so i could afk on top of the flag and watch youtube while doing RBGs

🙂

[late wraith]

Brilliant. Very good

[viscid remnant]

[tardy hare]

yeah at one point in SL you'd have all the shit so rogues couldnt 1v1 cap you anyway

and if they did not have a 2nd stealther it was just afk o clock

[pallid coral]

look up brewmaster statue cancel macro's

see if one of them works

[livid wasp]

180k bite on ret pala

this is why we didnt push david

no saber jaws

[edgy shale]

real

[livid wasp]

im running some weird saber jaws aoe cleave hybrid

[tardy hare]

true gamer build

[livid wasp]

I got this for st yuge bites

and this as an aoe bite hybrid idk working on it

[tardy hare]

hmmm MoC instead of circle might be a nice QoL upgrade

[livid wasp]

double feral? cleave with big bites?

[tardy hare]

other time

g2g in like 5 min

[livid wasp]

ok

[tardy hare]

hmmm

LI vs carnivorous

I like LI more i think

for BT and long range CP gains

hmm

[edgy shale]

u should definitely take apex

[livid wasp]

LI is nice, I just dont wanna use it cause not all builds have it

[edgy shale]

apex is prob an always pick now

cuz they changed how it procs on diff target counts

[tardy hare]

Apex is not a question

[livid wasp]

someone told me saber jaws doesnt buff apex procs

[edgy shale]

ye i was just looking at wat he posted above

it doesn't

[tardy hare]

idc i like free bites

[edgy shale]

ye it doesn't matter, apex still procs a ton and its just free bites

[livid wasp]

you talking about the st build?

idk

yeah maybe one pont from CI for it

wonder what build will be best for rbg

single target could be sick for killing fcs but idk kinda want aoe too

[tardy hare]

Depends what u gonna do

And map obviously too

Think for carrying mostly ST builds though

Just cook some defenders or FCs

[livid wasp]

for carrying id just go guardian

nvm

idk

[tardy hare]

Truuu

But rating is spec seperated like shuffle no?

Or just general rating

[livid wasp]

no clue

[tardy hare]

Oh well

Yeah would go guardian to carry too tbh

[edgy shale]

i got distracted by something, but yes im talking about the st build

apex used to have a 4% chance to proc on 1 target per tick and now its 9%

apex has high value on 1 target and is even used in pve st

thats how good it is now

[livid wasp]

okay

LOOK AT THIS

WHAT THE FUCK

[edgy shale]

turns out a talent that increases bite damage by 40% leads to big bites

[stray sigil]

isnt it 80

[tiny oar]

[edgy shale]

....fuji?

[stray sigil]

its 40/80 no ?

[edgy shale]

yes

40/80

of 50% of ur bite's damage

[tiny oar]

[edgy shale]

it only affects the extra 25 enegy u use to double bite's damage

extra energy, extra damage

[stray sigil]

am i drunk or was the extra energy 50 at some point

[edgy shale]

drunk

its been 25 for extra 25 base

for as long as i've played feral

wait

not true

there's a talent

that makes it lwoer but

watever

that talent is nerfed and bad

[stray sigil]

gg u lie

[edgy shale]

its so bad now

[stray sigil]

it was 40% at some point no?

lmfao

[edgy shale]

i think it was 20% last patch and higher before, ye

[safe heart]

Give me kindred spirits as a talent

[polar nymph]

Told you it was good 🙂

[whole wyvern]

Yuge

https://tenor.com/view/yuge-huge-donald-trump-gif-7357158

[safe heart]

KYRIAN FERAL IS BACK

[whole wyvern]

Kitty cleave anyone

Xd

[haughty compass]

big aug nerfs, rejoice

not sure how big

[grand mesa]

Looks meaningful

[opaque thunder]

hello moonkins

ex frost mage now a boomy main 🗿

[fair mirage]

Uhhh, probably minimal in pvp.

Considering their buff is moreso in their damage.

And the shifting sands buff already bad because you don't play mastery.

This knocks something like a few hundred mainstat off the partners.

If that.

[haughty compass]

yea prob still very good, was just kinda hoping i didnt have to play aug in keys for pugging

but allg

[stray sigil]

[haughty compass]

...lol

[fair mirage]

Need aug to be busto for one more keystone season so I can get dragged through by good players.

[haughty compass]

I just get portals, content is easy, but getting invited to groups can be a pain if you're not the good spec sometimes

[fair mirage]

Ah, the feral druid special

[loud glacier]

any boomy pvp talent builds?

[edgy shale]

p sure the nerfs are mainly aimed at m+ right

[haughty compass]

I think raid aug gets hit the hardest

not sure tho, waiting for big brain evoker people to figure it out

aug still gonna be fine

yea i really don't know, the aug sims are super weird

[loud glacier]

RBGs

[edgy shale]

well close as clutchmates got nerfed by 50% and thats not active in raid

so ig that hits pvp too

[haughty compass]

augs personal dmg is still good with ebon up

I love evoker, i really do, but aug design just such a problem

[fair mirage]

🔫 🐲

[edgy shale]

bommy takes all 3 capstones?

cringe spec

ur tree looks so barebbones actually

[loud glacier]

u da goat

[late wraith]

@wanton ridge i dunno if you saw, they rolled the change back, you can get antlers now just from the treasures. log in and you should have them!

the little birds still gather when i'm in other forms

[wanton ridge]

ohh nice, I did all the treasures / seeds / rares today for the meta chieve lol

[clear pulsar]

Same I did that last night

In shambles

[edgy shale]

kinky looking mf

[clear pulsar]

But now no more in shambles

[late wraith]

yes

my guild since TBC lol

[tiny oar]

/way #2200 41.74, 66.99 Emerald Dream – Feral Dreamstone

oops wrong chat

[fair mirage]

Gonna need the lore on that guild name.

[late wraith]

so you know this guy?

his milk

hope this helps

[fair mirage]

I see.

[late wraith]

glad to clear this up

[wanton ridge]

yeahhh nice can confirm i got my antlers after login

[tiny oar]

this place is a fucking warzone LMAO

[random patrol]

wpvp?

[fair mirage]

The wow player yearns for the grind.

[tiny oar]

i thought pvers were the sweatlords this week little did i know ppl were farming entire bloody sets here

[fair mirage]

Full bloody token gear doable in like 2 hours

which isn't really comparable to the people hammering out 20 renown

for an 80 mainstat augment rune

[tiny oar]

no shot lol

[fair mirage]

Well, that's how long it took me and my healer.

Although it's still not terribly useful unless you want to play a lot this week.

[tiny oar]

thats fucking insane that ppl are doing that

[edgy shale]

"people"

@hollow condor @grand mesa @stray sigil

[fair mirage]

Is it, though? There's nothing else to do.

[tiny oar]

i am just waiting a week for honor gear and farming emerald dream stuff in the meantime

[fair mirage]

That sounds like something a non-addict would do.

Because it's entirely too reasonable.

[tiny oar]

[fair mirage]

It's actually what I was gonna do but then I get on and "yoo q?".

[haughty compass]

Just chip away at loremaster for the second time like i am

[stray sigil]

[haughty compass]

the real ones know

[tiny oar]

bro why does feral regrowth heal for FUCKING NOTHING IN PVP MAN

ACTUALLY USELESS SPELL JUST TAKE IT OFF MY BARS

[stray sigil]

[grand mesa]

[tiny oar]

hoooooooooooooooLY

i just got a staff to upgrade next week n thats all the token farming im doing

wait can we not trophy shit anymore

[haughty compass]

Need the green crater gear

[polar nymph]

🪄 🐲

[polar nymph]

No need to worry since Boomies never have to leave their form 😛

[late wraith]

i refuse to go bear

[grand mesa]

i do on my hunter

[polar nymph]

Don't need to, already get half the benefits in DPS form

😛

We all hate going bear in DF though

No matter what spec

[late wraith]

the pendulum has swung too far now i never go in it and i don't run

[grand mesa]

true

[polar nymph]

Meanwhile I die to a light breeze.

😦

DPS Druids are in a tragic place

[grand mesa]

Yes

[edgy shale]

inpvper and pver

its actually insane how hard druid got powercrept this xpac cuz i'd say dps durids were on the mid-tankier side in sL

especially with fleshy C

[polar nymph]

It's because of the nerfs to our healing and losing borrowed power from then

[edgy shale]

other specs also gained a shiat load

[polar nymph]

Other specs also didn't get repeated nerfs to their healing.

I will never forget that 50% Regrowth nerf for Feral alone.

Protector of the Pack nerfs too

I think it used to scale with your vers

[edgy shale]

ye it could also crit

it was way, way better at start of DF

and ye im saying its both lol

when ur healing gets nerfed+other specs gain more it ain't good

[polar nymph]

It's especially bitter when it was already bad before a massive nerf

It just feels so mean spirited to cop a 50% PvP nerf while one of your other class specs gets the same PvP nerf removed at the exact same time.

Balance had a -15% Regrowth nerf before 10.1

If this combo hadn't happened I would not have spent the last 6 months complaining almost daily here.

[edgy shale]

real

[polar nymph]

I would have been the complete opposite because I personally really like how Feral feels on the offensive side of things minus the Cyclone spamming

But the moment I get one of those lobbies where no matter what I do I just die every round from having to commit SI early I just swap back to Arcane and have fun because I have actual defensive power on that spec.

[edgy shale]

glass canon asf just like zechey says

[polar nymph]

It really is

I'd love to be torturing all the fresh Havoc DH rerolls with those 300k Bites but I know what's going to happen.

[safe heart]

Yeah being so squishy sucks

I miss being unkillablw

[polar nymph]

And they keep trying to substitute with damage buffs every patch

Imagine also not reworking the Druid class tree in a DRUID patch but giving Balance Druid a 6th rework in a single xpac.

You've had several rounds of talent changes while some specs have been lucky to get 1

lol

That's precious

I don't understand why the class tree keeps getting left in the state its in but the specs keep getting stuff moved around.

Also wasn't very fun from the perspective of classes like Mages watching other classes get changes almost every patch while all the Mage trees were unchanged in any way at all for months.

I'm not talking about the perspective of power here

More the perspective of stuff that is clearly pathed badly or never usable just being left to rot.

Mage rework was very good but even then they completely missed their goals with about half of the Arcane tree for example, they wanted us to be able to afford to spec in to utility and we still can't even after they baked about 1/5th of the tree baseline

And the bottom section has no wriggle room at all 😛

Wish more trees were as easy to path through as the Priest one.

Still, I prefer this over the MoP-SL trees

I got the feeling that they want to be able to make changes to current issues in future expansions without future talent trees affecting previously fixed or modified things.

[split kite]

any one got a bear frenzied regen macro if i get targeted while playing boomkin balance druid

[stray sigil]

what do you mean

[split kite]

like something like /cast bearform /cast frenzied regen all in 1 macro

oh ok lol

[stray sigil]

both are on global anyways

u need to press it twice

dont see the appeal

[split kite]

yea

[polar nymph]

You can't just go in to bear and press the frenzied button on the bear bar?

[split kite]

yea il try

[fierce zodiac]

In terms of gear this week, for pvp is it better to go without season 2 set for the bloody token gear?

[stray sigil]

prob yes

[edgy shale]

bruh u dont even know what spec

[fierce zodiac]

it's boomy

[edgy shale]

i dont even know what boomy tier is

[fierce zodiac]

oh the confidence in me haha

[edgy shale]

2p is prob better than dropping it looking at it, but idk

[fierce zodiac]

So 1600 grants a tier piece?

[edgy shale]

i meant old

[tepid spoke]

Yes

[edgy shale]

wat is ur new 2p

dont say yes

[tepid spoke]

Yes

[edgy shale]

wat why is it like 500 words

[tepid spoke]

Dont mins glyphiestro

[edgy shale]

wat

[tepid spoke]

Hes a healing piggy now

Its over

[edgy shale]

real

its over for him

[fierce zodiac]

tldr pew pew much damage

[edgy shale]

he heals

[tepid spoke]

Healers = piggys

Real pod?

[edgy shale]

i cannot disagree even tho i heal sometimes

it always feels quite very piggy

[tepid spoke]

[edgy shale]

[polar nymph]

Dumb cat, drop your appearance already!

I need my Arcane cat appearance to never use but maybe ocassionally use idunno

[edgy shale]

does htat tierset make it sou acutally enter the other eclipse?

i mean in pver

[polar nymph]

How do I convince my friend to stop using Convoke?

Bommykin

[late wraith]

send them they rudar guide

he posted it for free

[polar nymph]

Where do I find it?

I don't know who rudar is

[late wraith]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/12u-pSmtO16dQOQAVC4LnqmmPPlXZt9uzt_jbbWVaMkM/edit?usp=sharing

[polar nymph]

New name to me

tyvm

[late wraith]

he's a very good boomy who is also a very good teacher

[polar nymph]

Sent it to him on bnet

@fair mirage no no, finish your thought

Don't leave me hanging

[fair mirage]

[polar nymph]

Yeah you

[fair mirage]

I was just gonna say he's a really good Balance Druid but others have already pointed that out.

[polar nymph]

That's you

Ez

[safe heart]

I was gunna hop on and queue shuffle

But no point

It's over

[polar nymph]

You'll also face sweaty try hards who grinded token gear for no real gain except to make themselves feel better than you because you have a life and they don't.

But yeah, I tell him that the extra 10 secs duration is more valuable than it looks on paper (30 secs vs 20 secs)

And even the crit adds up a bit more damage, even in PvP

Assuming it's still crit

And the extra saved talent point

[safe heart]

Okay I play different game

[polar nymph]

Or do the shuffle brawl

Where gear is scaled up

[safe heart]

nah bgs are omega lul to me

kinda been wanting to play ddo some

[polar nymph]

Rulesets are changed so it'll be something different feeling

But I agree

[safe heart]

meh

not sure theres anything that could make it feel fun tbh

[polar nymph]

This is gonna make him keep Convoke.

[late wraith]

he only takes convoke on dps 2s

[whole wyvern]

@polar nymph test

[polar nymph]

Hello

It's not misunderstood though

It's actively hated by devs.

(except Kittendev)

[stray sigil]

[whole wyvern]

[random patrol]

everytime I see a feral I just assume it's another beast mastery pet

[clear pulsar]

Slander

I was the necro pioneer

I'm Tesla, fuji is Edison

Unbelievable

[thin panther]

anyone have a resto druid pvp guide or talent build?

[polar nymph]

Every time I see a Hunter I assume it's an easy kill for me on Feral

[clear pulsar]

There's stuff in the pins t hats largely all super safe to play. I (and anyone else) havent really played the game very seriously this week so it's hard to tell if anything changed, but there's a lof of potential in going Incarn + the upgrade.

[thin panther]

so testing out different builds is the go to right now thewn

[polar nymph]

And the smug pioneer 😛

Mr never been wrong

[clear pulsar]

Its an off season week so yeah just play around, see what you like, figure it out

There's a 3h video guide going over a ton of gameplay situations further down the pins

[polar nymph]

Then next week we all play the meta

[clear pulsar]

If you wanted a guide with gameplay tips

[thin panther]

oh sweet thank you

[clear pulsar]

Its older but the only thing the spec didnt have back then is treants

[clear pulsar]

Handsome too

[polar nymph]

[polar nymph]

It all makes sense now, Face's mum is typing on his account.

I don't play the spec but I'm reading it

Because there's likely stuff in there I can use on any character or other casters and on healing.

Or when playing with Boomies

It's essentially a full breakdown on playing double wizard

[late wraith]

the positioning part was a game changer for me

[viscid remnant]

[late wraith]

and i think that's general caster info tbh but it also gives all positions

[viscid remnant]

[polar nymph]

I take offence to Aragorn not being the Warrior in this picture.

[late wraith]

this picture makes no sense?

legolas is a hunter

[polar nymph]

ikr

[late wraith]

monk? for aragorn?

[polar nymph]

And he's going to be spam queuing Legolas Cleave on his MM.

(it's where you multibox 3 MM Hunters)

[late wraith]

literally none of these are right

this is the most wrong image i've ever seen in my life

i'm mad about this image

[polar nymph]

Gimli is right though

And Gandalf

Oh wait

You mean both

You doing the challenge?

Post us with your progress

[late wraith]

i did a lot of it earlier in the season

i'm gonna restart it next week and do it again

[tardy hare]

@vestal citrus link guide

Pls xx

[polar nymph]

Scroll up

[tardy hare]

Pog ty

[tardy hare]

No?

[polar nymph]

Lazy

[tardy hare]

Yes?

[pliant forge]

feral bros what embelishments are u guys running

[polar nymph]

Precog and mainstat proc.

[tiny oar]

yooo

I did a huge nap let's get this bread

[polar nymph]

What kind are we getting?

[tiny oar]

idk german bread i hope

[polar nymph]

Well

I did Na Zi that coming

[tiny oar]

[polar nymph]

Don't huh me

You know exactly what it is

[broken junco]

David is jew

[viscid remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/low-tier-god-mods-crush-his-skull-gif-2213796137681918706

[broken junco]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-mod-life-of-a-discord-mod-discord-moderator-family-guy-gif-22385062

[polar nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-moderator-pokemon-meme-ping-gif-21005644

[broken junco]

I'll have you know David did 9/11

[viscid remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/sam-sulek-pool-jump-gif-15806149548518436867

[polar nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-calico-cat-cute-dance-cat-dance-gif-27615826

[broken junco]

I'm going to post my balls here

[rigid linden]

I

AM

READYYY

[viscid remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/luh-calm-fit-opium-bird-meme-from-2029-luh-meme-gif-8892337737798381438

[rigid linden]

yeah im a multi r1 boomy trust...

[broken junco]

https://tenor.com/view/gwent-gwentcard-monsters-fiend-gif-13941958

[polar nymph]

QONZUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

[viscid remnant]

luh calm

nun too extravagant

[livid wasp]

the marvels 6.1 on imdb oh no nono

[tiny oar]

booooooooooooomkin

[river solstice]

Damn so based

I had those same horns but I changed to this

[broken junco]

@viscid remnant truer?

[viscid remnant]

Real

[river solstice]

[tardy hare]

Formy read the Rudar guide

Now hes r1

[livid wasp]

feral feels like such shit

just struggling to win skirms idk

demo lock too much

they mostly are

[fair mirage]

If it makes you feel better I was playing with a healer friend trying to learn feral and he'd die every skirm/2s and I'd just 1v2 people and I've never seen somebody more miserable that regrowth heals for like 2% of his health, even if he gets a reset he just dies to dots

psure you legit dot and bug it until wall/dr falls

[light dock]

you're everywhere

[livid wasp]

dunno you just take so much dmg and cant heal it

1v2 works sometimes

but its tough

I could buy full bloody token gear but dunno

would be too broken

[fair mirage]

Gotta take balance with a grain of salt rn because wpvp/crafted gear is like 20 ilev advantage.

Which is huuuuuge despite no tier.

[livid wasp]

yeah like I feel like if I got bloody gear id feel so broken against people without that gear

and when season starts I would feel very weak in comparison

[polar nymph]

Protector of the Pack helps a bit now that mega bites are in the game but yeah, it's a joke of an ability for us these days.

[fair mirage]

Yeah, it's enough people that if you're grouped with somebody who can get tags it's a vibe.

I just sit in the middle of the GY pressing blood boil while fitting my fish.

[shut topaz]

hey how do u get Rudars guide for free?

[clear pulsar]

What for

3 ilvl lower than full honor gear literally day 1

[whole wyvern]

the sheep will always gather

[brave venture]

anyone have a good moonkin build for 10.2 pvp?

[tropic grove]

@vestal citrus how many bloody coins do i need for full gear

[fair mirage]

He posted it on his twitter.

[fair mirage]

To own idiots until Tuesday.

[fair mirage]

It's like 2100 or something.

Which takes 2-3 hours depending on how good of a farm group you have.

[tropic grove]

thanks king

[tepid spoke]

FUCK POD

@edgy shale

pig

[grand mesa]

It’s actually kinda fun idk

[livid wasp]

bloody coins m8

[clear pulsar]

I mean live your best life but like

What time is it saving?

It'll be 90% replaced within 5 mins of logging in tuesday

I was just asking glyph's reasoning

[grand mesa]

Idk I guess people don’t have much going on rn and folks want to queue and it’s kinda hard to queue and have fun when you’re 23 ilvl behind lol. Shitty arms race ig

[clear pulsar]

I mean glyph specifically said

It might save him time

[grand mesa]

Idk I’m so excited for Tuesday AHH

[clear pulsar]

Man

I am too

But then I travel on friday night

I'll have half a week to play wow

[viscid remnant]

iam quit+jump

[grand mesa]

Traj

[viscid remnant]

[livid wasp]

dont quit david we will play

[grand mesa]

True

[viscid remnant]

wrong

[grand mesa]

How do u like new job

[livid wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-despair-meme-atone-gif-18083281511005463831

[viscid remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/sam-sulek-pool-jump-gif-15806149548518436867

[livid wasp]

im thinking what I would use 70 boost on

but I have no idea

feral is the best spec in the game

why play anything else

[viscid remnant]

why u buying the new xpac

i guess its inevitiable that u will buy it

[livid wasp]

im not buying it yet

[viscid remnant]

and me too

[livid wasp]

true

im just not buying the 90 euro version

pre-ordering is bad

but its wow ill buy it anyway

[grand mesa]

Yeah

Idk for all the hours I get out of wow over the years

[fair mirage]

Yeah, I can't even begin to pretend that I'm considering not getting the next expansion.

[grand mesa]

11.0 got me hyped

Idk if it’s because the expac sounds really good or metzen just sold it on the stage so we’ll lol

[tropic grove]

just finished

took me about 1H30

[river solstice]

[grand mesa]

@clear pulsar can you pin a string for the most optimized build for balance bloody token farming thx

[clear pulsar]

[grand mesa]

750 token WQ up

[clear pulsar]

FUCK

I was gonna open vscode

And do real things

But now I have to open wow for this

[grand mesa]

get those bloodyT's

[clear pulsar]

Look what you made me do @grand mesa

[grand mesa]

i've been waiting for this

i still never understood how this one works

it's faction tag?

[clear pulsar]

I think so

But also maybe a hard limit of people/parties?

[grand mesa]

like some worldpvp quests are FFA and only party based for flagging? idk

[clear pulsar]

This is one of the best songs of all time https://open.spotify.com/track/3AzjcOeAmA57TIOr9zF1ZW?si=bc93bbfec70343f5

@tepid spoke real or real

804 from wq and a crate spawned right in time for 200 more

Ima have the full set with 0 grind

I'm at 2.3k tokens

[viscid remnant]

@river solstice @clear pulsar got 8.5k cs2rate

abit late to the party

[river solstice]

Damn nice homie

[clear pulsar]

Thats higher than anyone I know rn

[grand mesa]

huge

im losing track of how many toons i've done this on so far lol

[haughty compass]

blizz really good at hypetrain

[grand mesa]

yeah i wasn't super super hyped about DF

but 11.0

[livid wasp]

whats to hype about 11.0

[haughty compass]

750token quest is a bloodbath

[grand mesa]

warbands hero talents

ranked bg blitz probably by then at the latest

[livid wasp]

whats warbaands

[haughty compass]

I'm so curious aobut hero talents

what covenants should have been

[grand mesa]

i don't think hero talents are a lazy idea. i think adding 10 points to existing tree and 2-3 new rows would have been balancing nightmare. it's a good way

[haughty compass]

my expectations are high

I'm a class fantasy nerd tho, so

[grand mesa]

like 10.0 rdruid had tree + germ and that's part of the reason why rdruid was so GG. if they just add 10 points and 1-2 new rows that could be back etc. they'd have to sit there and fuck around with balancing existing trees again

yeah i like the class fantasy and the names too

[haughty compass]

curious what keeper of the grove is

[livid wasp]

old talents were better

[haughty compass]

treants that heal or spam wrath

lol

[grand mesa]

yeah in hindsight i wouldn't mind going back to the 6 rows again

3 choices

less hassle and headache and forgetting to swap a point for decurse

[drowsy surge]

bro is a battle cat

[haughty compass]

ha. I used to be a feral druid... and i like to lift weights.

[tropic schooner]

Any initial strong looking shuffle specs?

Im somewhat tempted to send some shuffles again

On like almost any class

[livid wasp]

youre a lifter you should play human warrior

like swifty or bajheera

druid is for fat furries

[haughty compass]

instead im a scalie in game

[livid wasp]

ye

[clear pulsar]

Right now?

[viscid remnant]

[clear pulsar]

Or for s3?

[grand mesa]

Dh standing out

[livid wasp]

I thought of boosting a dh to try it out but I would look like a filthy fotm roller if I did it now

better wait

[clear pulsar]

Get a grip

[grand mesa]

[clear pulsar]

Right now it's mostly havoc yeah

For s3 with new tier sets, feral and MM, prob BM too, destro looks nasty

Arms too actually

[grand mesa]

I think it’s just too hard to say rn esp cause the big ilvl gaps rn

But I think dh def stands out

MM will probably be nuts

[livid wasp]

feral mm disc jungle

[tropic schooner]

,s3

[late wraith]

Gm dgpvp

[haughty compass]

a little degen

[stray sigil]

its 2pm grandma

[grand mesa]

🫡

[late wraith]

It’s Saturday I sleep till 12

11 I guess today what the hell

[haughty compass]

Lets see how aug is with a gear advatange in bg blitz :>

[safe heart]

I'm gunna have to dumpster rsham for this reason

Hpal supposed to be bad now so I'll play that

[night beacon]

anyone got good talents for balance RBG?

[livid wasp]

rsham gonna be op?

just keep playing it you aint fotm rolling

[tropic schooner]

dont worry I somewhat properly woke up at 6 pm

being sick sucks

[summer violet]

does feral t31 proc off of the cyclone pvp talent?

[late wraith]

#pvp message in this doc the aoe one

[late wraith]

i think i'm getting sick too. i went to 2 back to back conferences and i keep waking up feeling that bad i'm getting sick feeling

[tropic schooner]

sorry about that

must have infected you

[late wraith]

dgpvp gave me illness 😦

[tropic schooner]

oh thats terminal

[late wraith]

aw hell

[river solstice]

Grow up pykan (I’m proud of you)

[marsh mason]

Real degen would buy the pvp items on the AH and be 469 pvp ilvl

[haughty compass]

Yea we’re just a little

[marsh mason]

Fair

[stray sigil]

[lethal python]

Aight you degens been away since S1. What's the new feral build?

[tepid spoke]

Joe