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she is fucking wild f2f
in solo just like
sitdown
and press a heal

too many times ive gone for a clone and lost the game for it
#pvp message @acoustic fulcrum have you read this
a little bitttttttt

playing ret in tbc and people asking the stupidest questions
and they're answered in pins
siiiiiimply dont answer

:3
fuck i gotta do this assignment tonight
well
yeah
but
i just cant get myself to
do it
its only like a small part so Its not bad
right now
mhm
or else
or else?

i think so
no cyclone tho`?
like i have won a good bunch of rounds with cyc i think and sometimes i get so chain cced that i would be fucked without my own i think
dunno
If the enemy runs on top of you and you can get it, great. The main point there is to not go looking for it.
teehee
its not no clone
its just
dont force urself too look for it
if ur team is visibly ahead
You want to be positioning at the outskirts of the fight, moving on a tangent as people go forward/chase behind pillars AT MOST
and u have hots rolling, then go for it for sure
So you just dont want to be in range to be CCd, thus also not in range to Cyclone
ur always at max range
that's what a clone would say
I'd really like it if you recorded a shuffle. The idea ben is trying to give is that you should strive to keep healing. DPS at your rating arent doing real damage, if people are dying early, chances are you could have outhealed it, and you didnt cuz either you were caught in CC or just pressed wrong buttons. You want to minimize both of these, so move to avoid people in your space. There are times you're safe to move in and do stuff. I don't recognize these times very well and sometimes I throw rounds cuz I was feeling myself too much with the stuns and clones. Same will be true for you. For now, just heal unless enemy healer runs to you.
nagrand arena my beloved..

that image isnt showing me much
but i can try streaming a bit and linking the vod
Haha. Middle are the dps, orange is enemy healer. Youre blue. If dps move green arrow, you move green arrow. If healer moves blue arrow, you move blue arrow. Dont move in, move around.
That'd be great. I want you to become the best version of shuffle healer mikene you can be.
At 1400 the reason you're not 6-0'ing as healer is 99% your own mistakes
All your teammates are babboons, but so are the enemies
Nobody gets punished for doing stupid plays, cause people dont do enough damage to punish properly
At this point its learning to treat everyone like a dumb tool and only keep them alive
He fiarmed yall
Streaming or sending vod would be really nice, cause we can actually tell you what to improve
Cause its really hard to say what you should do
Cause we'll say just press heals
Cause we can do that cause we know the game
i was actually sleeping
i have no clue what happened lmfao
just woke up and im like wat
So if you want real help @acoustic fulcrum we need videos
he was gaslighying me like everyone else in this channel
I think he was just not into being part of enabling yall's prejudice circlejerk
But we werent playing or hanging out or anything, I cant speak for him.
You can read what he said here
so its normal
day at work i see
ive never done that before ever :)
Yeah like he hasnt done it also
Lmfao

thank u sweetie <3
(that was me gaslighting u)
@vestal citrus time to put her back down
lake getting compliments
needd 1 to 1 ratio
real
where da compliment
fuji sees friendly convo and assumes simp IMMEDIATELY
i am a lake simp tho

teehee


ret pumps hard

we can sometime ^^
I'm a cute rdruid swine 
wrong


I want to hug too
not rdru
what do with this shit btw
@livid wasp real?
throw it out the window
rdruids are the worst
me too
what an edit holy fuck
SHUT UP
noooo
is cute ^^
@edgy shale unblock me now fucker
i@will find u
and do soemthing
@tepid spoke real
why did ipod block u

and pretend he desont read my messages
but then
replies to me

fucking pos
pod
if u block someone does it even show a notification when they ping u
he cant not read me
no
someone ping him

@edgy shale
i tried spacing but damn those evokers dont respect personal space
the fact that ur hots arent on party frames makes me terrified
but uh
i kinda skipped to 12 minutes
they are tho
are they
little green squares
im unaware of what you do :)
why is honor leveling so slow :(
no clue
i need 38 more levels , that will take me like 350 solo shuffles if i win 50%
i think
but uh yeah in that opener at 12 minutes the ret had his go and u did not ironbark. the guy lived but yeah
wait not ret
ele war

u ranged urself good in it tho
that shaman spent so much time running at u to lasso
thats a really valuable thing to do as a healer
or as anyone
doing nothing
and forcing someone to prolong what they wanna do
ur just s keying
and they have to follow u
ur essentially healing ur team by forcing the shaman to run at u
maybe its not like the most prominent thought in ur mind, but if u can catch it out, just sit travel form honestly
force him to come to you, as long as u havve hots rolling ur chillin
its 2 dps vs 1 dps
and u have passive healing rolling
its v gud!

SHUT UP
okie sry...
hkuyzisdsdihuldsf'

;3

Anyone got a good talent tree paste for Healing RBG?
Morning gamers

I just been cleaning up the apartment cuz mom's coming visit today but I'll get to the vod rq @acoustic fulcrum
i watched some of it, mes WA would be very helpful but also sometimes u just don't NS into big damage taken and ur guy is dying
The bit I watched you're just letting lifebloom drop and not putting it back for long stretches of people taking damage
As well as not pressing swiftmend a whole lot for stretches
face is 500 dps feral
swiftmend is 15s
very important rotational spell
extends ur hots with verdant infusion talent
also gives soul of the forest proc
which is what juices next regrowth
it's swiftmend -> ns regrowth is one of ur big saves
do you all just get your hots up and immediately get swiftmend out before they're even taking too much damage
I dont
Cuz it eats a hot for me

There's a WW with serenity up and your last 4 globals were Sunfire, Swarm on enemy, Moonfire and Starsurge to contribute an inhuman 90k damage total on the match
Naturally when you dont heal people die, you really should take ben's post I linked you to heart
You arent contributing anything meaningful doing these things, just taking away from your healing that you already don't understand what your spells do to begin with
Just heal
I reckon you arent gonna just recognize major cds of enemy specs and thats fine, but just be healing / ready to heal
This is also definitely causing you your early mana problems
Even when we're doing damage, Sunfire isnt even bound
sunfire big dam
For what its worth you should still press your 2 min cds
But at this point you need to read your spell book and talents first I feel
Once u get a better feel 100% mes wa. As a pver it’s just like raid or m+. You hear air horn, be ready to ns regrowth, ironbark, or smash that ai button

how tf do you get a dalaran hearfston
have to start the stupid thingy quest i think
It's in your toys collection
actuallyu
For any character
hm
i dont really use regrowth currently
also aoe sunfire talent felt kinda nice for shuffle when they stack
why is mage allowed to have alter time and iceblock
rmp is main character
what does it matter
i really doubt
hes that hard capped on gcd
that he cant just press sunfire for giggles if he wants
People still die in 4, 5 seconds to some specs
Even if they're baboons
I would never expect you to have actually watched the vod but thats exactly the thing I was talking about when I said what I said, a WW pops serenity and 100-0s somebody in a legsweep combo and for exactly the entire duration mikene presses 4 damage globals.
u think bark just saves the guy or
because people who are new to arena are very overwhelmed
kinda sounds like ur saying its on him if the dps doesnt press
as you can clearly see in the vod of his
if he wants to win/gain rating
yes somewhat?
i mean serenity is enough to global 2 hp bars
He's 1200 it's always on him, he's playing like shit
even if he ns's
like sure the dps fucked up but you wanna gain rating so you need to play better then people at 1200
Idgaf what other people are doing
You absolutely dont expect any DPS to press anything
nah
enemy also doesnt press cds
you need to expect different things of your teammates depending on your rating
im confused what do u mean by enemies dont press cds isnt the whole point the monk pressed serenity
you cant play the same way at 1200 then at 2700
sure but that monk might not have pressed karma in time
or what ever shit they have nowadays
keeping your teammates up longer even tho they made mistakes
can win you the game
im just confused as to what the enemies defensives has to do in this arguement
@acoustic fulcrum do you play shooters? Use cover. Swap from side to side of a pillar to avoid CC, not move backwards slowly
There is no argument you're just talking to hear your own voice
?
Idk why enten is entertaining this
what you mean the healer pressing cds can have you live through serenity sometimes
if you dont press any cds at all
he has hots up and a treant out
you have no chance to live
That doesnt matter
He can outheal that burst
And he didnt
Cuz he was doing 90k damage in 4 gcds
Thats on him
ye im just saying i dont think ns is enough
Thats not on anybody else
if the dps also doesnt press
sure maybe
but he still has to press it
it doesnt matter who the loss is on
you figure out what YOU can do to change that
not what your teammates can do
you wont win all ofc
at this mmr wouldnt u just say in the pre game like
ww pops cds u press omething
kinda fixes a lot of problems
already
you can sure
just communicating
but most of the time
people still wont press cds
and then its on you to press shit
Ns isn’t enough for serenity tbh. And that was the case in SL too. But OG ironbark swiftmend for chonky heal. Ns regrowth when the guy almost dies. Then triple treant when the guy almost dies a second time can probably heal thru all of it tbh.
Not to mention I don’t think the WW at 1200 is even doing the level of burst you would expect higher up when they serenity.
also yeeting heals into the bursted target
isnt that a shitton of globals
i assume that every at 1200 is a snail lvl speed ye
yes
OG swiftmend NS regrowth is 3 globals, less than he spent on damage
so like asking him to press ns og bark swiftmend
OG, swiftmend and Ns regrowth. The NS and trees and ironbark are ogcd
So you reckon the advice should be stay pressing damage and expect your 1400 dps to press defensives?
Is that what you think we should be telling him?
That's the most delusional thing you've ever said unironically
i think should be tellign him to communicate yes
disagree
This is 1400 mmr shuffle lol
You cant expect people to do anything cuz its low mmr
telling people to do things doesnt mean they will do things
You can tell people to do stuff, they wont
And you should still heal
The damage isnt contributing anynthing
sure you can and maybe should say some stuff nicely
eh kinda disagree
but just cause you say it doesnt mean it happens
i think dmg
What other people press has nothing to do with the fact mikene doesnt know what his buttons do
matters more
low mmr
cuz these ppl
dont have hands dont know how to do dmg
or heal
id say at lower rating the bigger issue is that eventually someone will fuck up badly and die
im sure at 1300 games are like
they can absolutely still do damage they just do pve rotation and plough through people who don't press tehir defensives
by running behind pillars not pressing a cd etc
this was a difficult example for me as the aug was hugging me and i didnt want to los my teammates
ye i think its either
well not really
people at low rating dont do damage compared to high rating
every game
i was trying to do that staying away thing you said earlier @clear pulsar
mostly why im saying dmg matters more
does static totem "dr"
the idea that no one does damage at low mmr is absurd. they aren't optimizing damage and they're not doing high level damage but they're just head empty pressing their dps buttons into people not pressing defensives.
feel me?
I dont agree that the random resto druid damage matters more
id say a proper executed burst rotation does
whos doing a proper burst rotation in 1400
but a random dot wont matter much imo
that 1 ww in my pov
no one but it would matter if youd tell someone to improve
had some solo carrys in those games
eh im sure nowhere near what it actually is
like if youd tell a WW to improve one of the bigger things to gain rating would be figuring out a solid way to do damage
no offense
But that’s why Mikene is getting feedback on the healing portion. Even if dps should press on serenity. There are buttons not being pressed by the rdruid at all.
granted i havent played ww in a bit
but last time wasnt difficult to put out dmg
and they even nerfed keefers
prob a lot easier now
For mana efficiency sure yeah
resto gets omen procs?
but like seems like ur in a pinch heal
idk if its omen
but it looks like omen
so i call it omen
regrowth is piss without sotf
so that’s why you not swiftmending at all is kinda egregious
Getting to 1800 in shuffle is largely a dps rotation test. The pumpers aren’t hardstuck 1600
what dpes sotf look like
like they wont be able to just walk out if we do 2 right
im not sure
was kinda working
:)
again i'm not saying they're pumpers but they do enough and absolutely enough for people not knowing when to press defensives
i feel like it should dr
cringe amount of buttonsreally
but i dont know since its a zone
the lack of rotational knowledge is balanced by people not hitting defensives when burst happens.
thinks that a minorty tbh
not even sure where to move swiftmend
i got no buttons left in the main rota
Yeah
cuz of inflation
It’s inflated rn
might be more than 300 now sure
Idk... you hit defensives properly and do your dmg rotation properly you’re a 2400 shuffler
Lol
last time i checked was like around that
i need more casuals like me in pvp
kinda real
not for every spec
but most of em ye
Damage is criminally low at low rating tbh
where are the noobs that dont have 2k xp cr on 20 alts
Its cover more than range
i would say ppl in ur bracket are pretty casuals
It’s so hard for a decent player to be at 1400 rn. Cause they’re gonna 6-0 their first 1800 placement game
And just be at 2100-2200 on a brand new toon
Def not ele. The skill ceiling is too immense
I think most people do decent, but literally panic when they get attacked and don’t do the right thing. At the lower end in shuffle
At least that’s what I’m noticing picking up these new classes
not to me
4-2 and then 5-1 to get back close to 2k at least (after dropping to 1800 last week)... my faith in humanity is almost restored 😛
Huge
Is it weird I feel bad for the MW that went 1-5 though?
They're like doing +8s
still tho
After fistweaver patch no
if you know nothing about dungeons then a +8 is hard
True
All pvpers are casual. It’s easy content
atleast in +8 you dont have to deal with semi intelligent enemies
q up bitch
why am i not 1800 then
liar


Channeling your inner fleks

Ay
I learn from the best puzzle
According to a bad freestyler. It’s a skill issue
According to bad freestyler resto druids get 2500 for logging in... so man I must be terrible
Real and true
big true
Mordh is based. Holy
on my acc for honor?
has there been an easier time to q rdru
I gotta carry my raid lead tonight for their new main

10.0 rdruid was wild too
guys i want reach honor 80 like this
Literally every season
bring some effort
I wast tempted to and started setting up my priest for holy pvp... but can't make myself pull the trigger. I really should focus on druid until I can get my stretch goal of 2100 and the damn enchant 😉

enchant is glorious
I’m cackling maniacally at work rn
bald
enchant?
The 2.1 duelist enchant
Have you seen my hair when it was long
They finally made a good one

i went 2-4 in my first of the day i'm grumpy as shit
Fuji baiting me
real talk tho, why do pvpers cry about not getting as many rewards as pve players, when pve is basically free loot
Wonder how good tier will be for us rdruids in shuffle next season. If it's solid I might ahve to main druid IN PVE too to get it faster, to the dismay of my m+ team who had me on aug this patch 😛
Imagine m+ giving you a mount and it can’t even fly or do the expansions mechanic
Pvp gearing system is way better than pve
mount collectors don't like teh dragon skins though
number don't go up
and they are awful
deterministic vendor and currency

They still get one
mfer u got one too
PVP gearing for alts is incredible too - particularly as a healer. I have almost another 30 +50 conquest tokens and 4k conquest to buy loot boxes tos end to my next alt 😛
@acoustic fulcrum enchant
ig u cant use it as reg mount
Yeah but mine doesn’t fly
And it looks ugly
Real
Does unlocking 2100 enchant on one toon unlock it for all?
Yes
yes
It’s an appearance
Yes
Ok good - stretch goal even more confirmed then
I still use my elite one from shadowlands sometimes
My warrior is def not duelist
No sir
Hpal and rdruid in RBGs

And hpal in 3s
here’s the thing cyon
Y’all ready for solo shuffle rbg to kill arena once and die all?
No matter what u said
I couldn’t get higher in RBGs cause I was always getting queues against camel
Fuji would have flamed
real
It’s okay
cuz hes bald
Yup it’s over
I was 2100 my first ever pvp season
player base already so small
In 3s
I've tried getting into RBGs a few times over past 2 expansions... each time it's like < 30 minutes before someone gets called the N word and I'm out.... lol
Imagine if I kept pvping after getting 2100 in my first season

I would be better than Fuji
DF season 2 is my fuji arc. Almost rank 1 and failed
u would have lost it

Arenas do suck. Idk they can be fun with friends but overall they get dull and it feels the same
im getting hit by stray bullets
lets just go back
to flaming cyon
for being bald

Rbgs are more fun to me idk. Much more chance for some diff shit to happen
Prob easier to balance?
I dislike RBGs immensely lol
I’m convinced Fuji just wants to see me
I had a full 10 man group
W 2 ppl on bench
They were all rank 1s in arena. I was the only one who didn’t do arena

balance in rbg is terrible atm lol
It was fun
Where gnome?
guess what healers are played
Evoker right ?
Thought balance was kind of the only good druid spec in RBG rn?
Mistweaver
nice to see sth i cant ever reach
sick
3 of them
They don’t mean the spec homie
Like balance as a word
But that’s why solo rbg will be good
LOL 😉
Balance in RBGs can be bad
You won’t see hard meta shit I think as much
Well yeah you’re pve healing
Yeah true
No triple aff lock and double disc w that combo
Or the cursed 4 boomies
Waht makes mist so cracked in rbg
And double disc one hpal
ill be the best rbg feral druid there has ever been
just like spread heal beyon beleif and ring?
people will be like oh shit we have zechey hes so good
NOW WHERE GAMING
If you let a mw stand and heal bot they are unstoppable
idk why mw is only healer
Even in PVE
but that what they do
used to be disc/hpriest/hpal when i played
But their throughput is some of the highest in game
poor rshams always doghsit
Revival restoral port probably hard to catch
MW would be fun - fistweaving... rop to displace/block people.. mobility

So not SP in 10.2 then 😛
MD cooldown increased a lot I believe
with that cc chain
I dunno, SP are dooming even more than normal about PVE too...s o maybe dmg is worse in PVP too
When isn’t spr dooming
OH I know - but it's worse than usual atm 😛
arent u a boomy cyon
u sound liek a boomy
ur bald
and stuff
I still have yet to meet a happy go lucky bubbly posi-vibes spriest main
Is it? Idk I do rbg for a vault sometimes that’s it
Had a shuffle round go to 88% damp earlier today - think that was the most damp I've seen in shuffle.
But I’d play a lot of solo rbg for sure
Yea I mean duo Q with a healer is super pog
Its weird that shuffle rbg will be 6 man though? Or maybe it's awesome, I dunno
I got a holy priest buddy who’s ready
I would shufflelord if I didn’t have to wait 20-30 min each game
I think it’s 8
8 man
well healer wise its bad
2 healers
im not too sure about dps
What’s really dope is
I'm the only healer in our guild interested in pvp... and I doubt rdruid will be great in shuffle rbg
prob the same its always been
Mount speed is 150% more
So In a pub unorganized setting
Devastation feels good on there, that’s all I care about
im sure aug is stupid af in rbg
stack augs multiplicative scaling
I don’t really enjoy aug but will play it if needed
upheaval
Playing around a buff isn’t my jam
Like someone else I know
gimme 5 augs 1 destro

WHERES ur pi
I wnana play aug feral
can be a disc idc
I liked aug in m+ this season - but didn't try it in arenas/shuffle - I'm sure it's fun. God its boring af in raid
looks incredibly boring
Can’t u lust in
spam 3 buttons
Normal rbg?
Aug got me all the m+ portals and it was kind of a joke
oh
It needs a rework
Yeah
next patch ye
rbgs are so fire
i just didnt like how people afkd
I think
so will balance
I still need 3 portals on my druid.... have them on aug and paladin... can't make myself pug those last 3 though instead of shuffle ... I need to
the portals not working between alts is the dumbest shit
yes my anus quitebald
@crystal forge

So many meatballs with new tier
I got each one and I haven’t done a single dungeon since
And a nice little ele blast on whoever u p wave
@tepid spoke
Ele kinda looks sick ngl
Go to my disc Fuji. I just destroyed you
@clear pulsar damn south america down bad in TI

gg
Ok
I do not look like a regular ginger





LOL

mute his ass

Nah we didn’t do that but we will this year since River is 2 and walking around and talking
Lmao
Nah I know what I’m gonna be
Do you know Ray Ray from the meme movie “a haunted house”?
I'd wear that - if my daughter was still into them 😛
I’m just waiting for her to graduate to stuff I used to like

Yall wanna watch my FYP?
No
Ever seen the movie?
coward
Nope
I want a picture of you in this
Or make it your pfp pic
Real
We don’t know what River is going to be yet
no
I should get that cat boy costume and wear it to blizzcon - just to really confuse my guild and other people at the con
why not
They would probably assume you play feral Druid
post it trev
Oh shit that's true
ong frfr
Yes Trev post it (get muted cuz)
Yeah down horrendous. Keyd was easily the worst team there but EG big letdown.
there are 2 left? and both lower?
I think
Lmao ok
ye EG and keyd are left
Yeah
arent u dating a milf
Thing is they shuffled the 2 good teams after last TI
or something
Is it finally RTZ’s year
u gotta be like 43 by now cyon
real


why is roshh in the bottom corner of the map
What game you guys talking about
After a ton of scrolling I found my first one
my eyes
Ya
Please
wdym i share when i find
???

i mean, full points on commitment
like show and tell
but boi
rosh goes on adventures
Love seeing Luna
is that even a thing right now. I recall her also being a 4 sometimes
Patience from Zhou
delightful
I do
it was sick
I was a HoN-guy and was coping that dota2 wouldn’t take over
But it’s hard to deny how sick that was
Puppey talked about the naga counter
Still watch it again from time to time
ty posted just 4 u
🙏
is that jugg build
treads stick vanguard and what ever that ring is called soulring?
I think I recall vanguard
Being really powerful back then
And a lot of Carries built it
Ate a few nerfs
I need a nap
nap on dn
vanguard builds into a broken item these days
as a carry most of the time u don't need immediate damage u nee ditems that enable u to farm and live

u got no game
You can disassemble it so its just rly good value early for lane
For melees that need it in lane. Idk about the soul ring and basi tho.


Abyssal isnt a core item
He’s talking about a 12 year old clip
Bfury is a core item
yea think that was the time
carries didnt even build bf
in a lot of cases
even the "obvious" battle fury guys like AM sometimes skipped it iirc
False all of my games AM built 47 minute bfuries back then
yea
















