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Ye demo gutted next patch anywya
demonskin next patch
Need to get my rating then practice destro again
Pog
sussy
Man in BfA s4
Imagine being a destro that use treants to funnel and banish treant to hard counter the entire spec
And whining about it
I had like 4% vers
3747383838 haste
funnel what
u only use it for stupid haste buff
Dude destro in bfa s4 was fucking hilarious
suk my cock face
We both 0 vers full haste
We win games in opener or lose
XD
Gg go next
Fighting a fire mage as destro was amazing
nagrand same
Cause mage couldnt play the game
cuz u just pump at the same time as my bolts
Then nether ward
does some crazy oneshots
Then coil
was kinda nutty
Gg
Upon further inspection @outer wraith I'll be doing this

No one wants to go in
Ok I'm one good lobby off of 2100 as boomie

Gg
good morning fellow gamers


11pm here ^^
That's even worse wtf
I work nights I'm not a degenerate I swear
That's shitty
morny!
u work up at 12:37pm my time so ur fine
morny, cute new pfp ^^ glad to know I'm not a degen in aussieland at least

Hi

yo sup
every day is another chance to be your best and most beautiful self and give light to those around you. life is a blessing
💚
wallah i agree
Everyday is a new chance to shit ur pants
technically not wrong ._.

have u shat ur pants recently cog
i got no pvp gear and near 0 skill
how hard is it to get the pvp transmogs i. shuffle
everyday is a new chance to suck a new cock

A cock a day to keep the gay away
Smart man
real? @stray sigil
is there any way to farm honor levels really fast currently
i need about 45 levels
itll take some grinding but comp stomp is good yea
real

shuffle good too if u queue as healer
not gonna win as healer
wont win anyway, but certainly not as healer
are healer queues way faster in shuffle?
Yes
thats kinda whack
yea imagine playing healer when u could be a 200iq giga chad high T alpha male dps player
He cant live with no healers
He cries everytime a warrior sits his ass
Needs papa to save him
Its about as hard as being able to hit 1800
How tf do u think someone can quantify that
in numbers you nub
didnt know that
so, starting from 0 pvp and resto xp. how soon will i be 1800 rated in shuffle
14 hours and 51 minutes of shuffles
to learn
1800 as healer is just pressing your healing rotation competently
not rly
But you're a tank main so idk if you have that in you
need decent positioning also
Yeye I mean just healing safely and keeping people alive without griefing the game
Dont throw dont try to do too much
play soon ?
Sure
Do you have gear?
Could do feral but we'll prob spam lose for a bit. Could do DH but I cant promise I know what my spells do.
thank man u too g
💚
guys what do you think about mastery in pvp for bala ?
possible to play half mastery half haste? cause i want to go resto aswell but bala players go fullll haste
so who else enjoys playing blades edge as boomy vs 3 melees in SS
ive never felt so alive
@viscid remnant sorry i was bedge
whenever u wanna log i log
sure give me a few
++++
@viscid remnant im good sorry went to shower
ok team goal before season ends 2100
Are the wowhead pvp builds still decent go-tos ? Looking at doing 2v2 and opting for their single target build
It's incomplete, do something like this
@tiny oar
or @clear pulsar
Thanks man
Do you generally use AS once every dot is on the target/s
use it with your ff
Doesnt matter, use it before prowling then just keep it rolling
also if you struggle with bloodtalons, pick the otehr talent
yes
(but also yes ofc pick the other talent if you're fumbling the bag ig)
Does the personal resource display show overcapped combo points during berserk?
There’s a weak aura that shows overcap
I liked this one but it’s kinda plain.
https://wago.io/AaGyg33cR
Wish there were exciting graphics like cats or something on it
Not stupid bars
Overcap shows as a different color if you’re color blind
im unironically gunna have to take a break from arena from a few days because its starting to hurt my wrist lol
useing my thumb buttons for spammy abilities fucking me up
like i press bite, wc , rip, tf and brs all on my thumb
the way i keybind stuff is kinda degen tho
i could probbaly stand to rebind everything in a cleaner way
i forget who said it but for healing i actually really like the idea of party123 on q e f
instaed of scroll wheel, solely because i hate the middle mouse click
middle mouse click feels as slow as clicking to me sometimes
rn i use that for auto run tho
Ur probably gonna be fighting so much old muscle memory if u completely redo it
That sounds horrific lol
puzzle i legit have a tendon thing going on rn and im 99% sure its because of this lol
You can probably edit the scritchpop one to implement the overcap CPs logic
pain in my wrist, goes up to my elbow
Yeah definitely could be
Sounds uncomfortable to do rotation on mouse side buttons
Cuz your thumb is always tensioned like
it is, but its just what made sense at the time
Always holding it out definitely big strain
like the entire game, my thumb is flexed lol
Yeah on the keyboard its shared
my keyboard hand has no pain
maybe instead of shuffling ill spend a few days fixing my keybinds

who is it
I’ll try but Im a little too smooth brain for it
I use MMO mouse purely for arena targetting
First row is arena 1/2/3. Second row is party. Random situational stuff on rest. But everything is keyboard
I’d move away from it in some way imo. Cause like. It’s not like ur playing d4 and button mashing for hours and hours. You’re waiting 10-30 min doing some shuffle then afk again and messing up your hand lol
well tbf im usually playing something else in between or whatever but yeah
im gunna try to change it up
hm
i actually like that idea
^ this
that would free up my zxc
one thing too
is i have that g600
and
i use the extra mouse click as ctrl
so im doing like a claw pinch for soem stuff
I hated the g600 cause I’d always accidentally press the third mouse button
And I had to hold it in a way where I wouldn’t
Just ended up disabling it
Real. I have a lot going on rn but if I ever get around to that I'll share w u
👀 that would be great
I honestly probably wont but the weird antler having skitty is convincing me to
😂
It’s ok. I can always ask chocopuff
He can help me do something meme like dancing parrots on 5 combo points
Yeah then I made conditional macros where shift + any of the arena targets clones those targets. Alt + any of those buttons roots. Shift + party is dispel etc. idk. I really liked my setup lol. Spent 10 years fighting my keyboard and UI trying to do what I want and it’s all intuitive now
yeah i actually think im gunna try that out
i use that same kinda set up now its just on zxzc
zxc is clone
shift zxc is root
all my rotation shit on my naga
i know itll only take like 3 days to get used to it
its never been a problem till i came back recently lol
Fuji has young soft dainty hands
Which embelishment/crafted pieces do you go for as feral? I guess the toxic boots and toxic recipe on a ring or something?
Enji and I are older
Also how do you guys rate 4pc over 2pc?
i dont use 4pc
seen Snupy saying 4pc isnt worth it
even the 2pc seems pointless but figured why not
i took the cc thing and precog
axtin teh goat and my protege
really lol
30 more levels until lakesmoke TERRORIZES THE 1800 SHUFFLE LADDER
Ur def smoking something

that's why i'm taking her over the border to the netherlands
And you'll just give that up for nothing and run away from your destiny
It's so sad
Ok I think I feel good enough about this that fuji talking random shit wont bother me
@surreal heron can you pin for me
Feral (tentative Midnight - refer to Axtin for more certain feral advice)
Gear: Vers >= Mastery > Haste. War-mode set currently works in Battlegrounds, not in Skirmishes.
Embellishment: Devouring Banding or Arcanoweave Lining. Low impact.
Heraldry: Use the 9 free ones on Vers+Mastery Jewelry or any armor slot missing those stats from Conquest vendor.
Talents:
CcGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAjZWYmZmZGz2CLzsMjZmHYmBAAAglgZzAzMTNjZzMzMz2YmxAAAAAAAMAAAACAmlZWa2mZZDMzAswgBAwMDAG
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- Hero talents
DOTC is heavily nerfed in PVP and relies on auto-attack uptime for its procs, so it's unplayable in Arena. Could be ok in BGs if you get resets, hitting bases, etc. - Class tree
Astral Influence is a good talent to make it easier to land Cyclones, but it costs 3 points in practice. You can drop Typhoon, Improved Stampeding Roar and Nurturing Instinct to reach it. - Spec tree
Hunger for Battle can be ok in Battlegrounds, drop Ashamane's Guidance for it.
Primal Wrath for Coiled to Spring if there's no chance of cleaving targets. - PVP talents
Wicked Claws is locked in when your team doesn't have a Mortal Strike.
Savage Momentum is very strong when you can land kicks often.
Tireless Pursuit helps you deal with slows when kiting or getting kited, good default talent pick.
High Winds is very good if your comp doesn't have more Disorient CC and you find yourself cycling Cyclones a lot.
Ferocious Wound adds a bit of instant pressure when you open and/or swap targets.
Freedom of the Herd can be paired with Improved Stampeding Roar to counter Boomkin's Root+Beam, in case your healer is vulnerable to that.
Axtin approved
well jobd
Ur a good orange name for us face 
Stop flirting with me you're married
I think it's good to have
Precoc can feel like a win more type of effect very often
Like some games it's definitely great but other times you get rid of 1 kick and thats it you're free to cast anyways
So if you faked it you dont need the immunity
yeah
plus i mean
in my mind if i get kicked, whether i juked it or not is basically a good thing
have no problem letting the dps kick bot me all game so healer can free cast
I never win spamming pw

I can't tell on mobile, is this one message
or would multiple needed to be pinned in order
alright
wheres the axtin credit
cuz u def didnt write that all by uself

name it axtin's feral guide no bol
it's in the 2nd message
proud of u face love u
can you teach me face
You're higher rated than face I believe zecher
he hardly queues
So
and im carried by carryover mmr from s1
Honestly I think you're well passed the point where someone else can teach you
The details you need to learn to improve are probably only and solely going to come from vod reviewing
Like you know the class, the meta, and all the regular advice alrdy
need to pay snupy to review
To improve I think you need to watch ur games and figure out why you lost
Don't pay him
He won't tell you anything you don't already know
The gap between you and snupy is probably smaller than you think
Literally all you need to know about rdruid is never hit into cen ward
And swap targets like a krek fiend
^
I don’t even know if that’s true about hitting into cen ward idk
Cen ward seems like such a small part of rdruid healing compared to SL
target swappers piss me off so much but cen ward definitely less of factor now that VI is kill
cen ward or not swapping on full hots is basically all there is
but i just apply that to basically every healer tho
swap on ps
swap on ironbark
swap on cocoon
swap to pally on sac
Fuji tell me how my ass taste
Amazin 

dont think that matters
idk I hate rdrudi dunno when to swap
lifebloom gives them mastery stacks but i think most druids gave up that talent for trees
might be wrong
Nah never give that talent up
More mastery stacks plays exactly into trees
It's doing swaps to the druid really
zesty
i really dont find rdruids that hard to play against
id rather play against rdruid than hpal or evoker
wasnt lifebloom like the more it is on the target the more it heals
lifebloom has a chance to bloom every tick on its target
and if its on the druid
their hots tick faster
but im fairly certain they just keep 1 on themselves and one on their main target
but its just a global
so doesnt really make sense to swap on lifebloom imo
Yeah up to 45% more
And then theres a stacking 7% buff to lifebloom if you cast it on the same target again
So swapping is a decent healing loss
oh okay
didnt know that
i mean how many times can you realistically swap on lifebloom
it cant be that much ramp
itll just oom you fast?
Kinda like this:
If you're permacleaving, I wont have lifebloom on myself, so swap to druid is good in that case
If you're just hitting 1 target like training a warlock or something, I'll have lifebloom on myself and little on the 2nd dps.
It's mana and just straight hps loss
I can swap it whatever 1 gcd, but it'll be doing less healing for a bit and realistically the resource you're trying to run me out of is mana
I dont have cds for you to cycle thru like a paladin
Or a shaman
but is the ramp long enough that itll matter
cuz if its like less healing for 10 seconds
whateve
unless its really that mana intensive
You also cant just swap immediately
If you're CCd
It's swaps, not like traing 1 target for 20s, then another target for 20s, ofc that doesnt do anything
But you identify who doesnt have lifebloom and on the next cross CC go you swap to them
@livid wasp its solved
intredasting
is taht just focued growth or whatever
Budding leaves
essentially just sticking on 1 target against rdruid is stupid
It’s always been
okay now how do you beat hpal
reroll rsham
i actually fucking hate
so much
the 10% bop
then you try to clone it
and the millisecond you clone it, they purge bop
For me rdru feels like a decent matchup into hpal. Even when we were gutter tier it felt nice enough to play vs hpal compared to any other healer. Now I dont think we're better than hpal, but I think hpals think we're better than them cuz we have a good matchup.
Do you change from cleave to ST setups regularly in solo or just opt for one over the other generally? Guess depends if vs double caster etc
Depends if you will have realistic opportunities to keep up Rip on multiple targets or not
I don't think I'd run full single target in shuffle
Unless it's like legit some frost mage spr rdru enemy comp then sure
But generally speaking even if the optimal play would be coordinated setups on 1 target, it probably wont happen, having the chance to leverage Apex is always nice
Originally I wrote that I'd consider running Apex even in pure ST but axtin talked me out of it
Next season I see us running it in ST.
The reasoning was that Apex creates value for you while you're in between in these games vs caster cleaves for instance. Like you go to CC healer, you take a bit to get back on target, maybe your Rip falls off, maybe you get CCd and dont have combo points and damage ready to go , Rip is ticking = Apex chance. Apex = easy trigger for Wild Attunement into 5 CP Rip reapplied, etc.
There's just some value to Apex that isnt strictly the raw DPS it gives that I think is nice
But some of it is just me making up for my poor play at that point
Cuz I could just bank up combo points for the go when I move away to clone healer
thats what i do
i just hold em when i know ill need them in a sec
pre farm cbs and kicks
like 10s before you go
Cheers. What classes do feral struggle with usually? Casters?
all of em
rdruids
Stop derailing the conversation
?
Feral is fine in to RDruid
its aids
There's a difference between bad comp matchups and just bad 1-1 matchups
primal wrath rip is shorter than regular rip correct
It's half duration
its just 1 point
2 finishers for 48s worth of rip vs 2 finishers for 48s worth of rip
Why does it matter if the duration on one of them is shorter if you're consistently reapplying it?
the thinking is i want to reapply it lesss
If you're running Apex that doesn't matter
You reapply it the exact same amount if you're looking for 100% uptime on both
If you can cleave ofc
ffs this is why i hate the talent trees
If you do 2 long rips but you reapply less often that means you're dropping uptime on one
Like it's whatever
I think 1 point in tireless energy is nice too
talent trees facilitate overthinking
because instead of making macro decisions on a few nodes, im having analyze every piece of the puzzle
Sure, if you just make your own from scratch without discussion
cuz like now im having to consider whether i should play pw with apex on my st spec

Talent trees are probably the only thing I liked about this xpac
It being meaningless was my exact point tho, you're using the same # of globals to maintain 2 rips whether you do PW or single rip
So it's just a diff of PW damage vs tireless energy at that point, and 'feel'
yeah but its not 1:1 because if i just passively hit anything outside of 2 targets, then apex is ramping in value
PW is easier to do without retargeting but
i guess PW is the way to go rly
Fwiw in PVE, PW only sims better if you're also taking tear open wounds.
In 2t
But that's not what you want to do here I reckon
PW isn't mandatory
using unleash shield (knock+root) on an hpal out of los of their teammates and watch them panic is so fun
right
im not really looking to cleave primarily
the main thing is just spreading rip
if the option is there
At least this is better than overstressing secondary stats
It's just easier to get PW on people faster
thing is, im not gunna give up swarm ff
Which means more time on Bite
CI is which one again?
tiger fury
tiger fury buff
ill look at the tree tonight
i guess its just a cleave-lite build
the chimp pw spam shit doesnt work for me, cnt explain it but i always lose with that build
i just dont do the rotation well enough or something for it work as intended
so more ST focused - clone gameplay does better for me
@crystal forge no arena till Tuesday, we out here in the mountains 🏔️

You hunting Feral Druids in the mountains?
And Guardian Druids
If I see either I’m fucked

I always precoc
why

SIKE
Idk I clone a lot
I play very on top of the fight
Like actively trying to bait
my ice
Even when I dont wanna clone I just keep going for it if it's safe
Sometimes if it's not safe too
THEY SAVED DRUID
DRUID IS SAVED
NPCs will no longer run away from anything but the Dark Urge Slayer form
to improve interactivity and flow.
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whaT?

Get baited idiom
did they fix swarm in ptr
Yes
what was wrong with it
It wouldn’t travel off targets
why do people always stack
nobody whispers me for weeks then I have one night when 3 people ask for jungle
pick the best team and send it

Found a boomer resto Druid for dk dev. Life is good. Sorry benji
It’s all g
I’m mountain life rn
send it my guy
Also isnt holy priest bis heals for pi ?
And I’m not quite boomer but I’m close
And send updates want to follow your journey to success
prob, but player temperment > spec for me lmfao
you should see the player temperament in 2k pug rbgs
@clear fox we hit 2.1 in the next coming weeks?
its an absolute cesspool
I have both.
Ez run whenever we find some time
Gonna re do my whole ui and binds next week though

Soon I will be Chad resto shaman but that is for another day
when can I get an option to blacklist rdruid
Healer Feral.
rdruids just make the game so much less fun
This has to be a bit at this point zechey lol
What are they doing to you zechy
just aids
fire mage spriest rdruid
I dont wanna play against that
I pay 12 euros a month why cant I choose nto to fight against that
Goshcomp
Yuhhh
Scawy
I am a very powerful Arcane Mage.

Like just for fun orrrr
For death
Did you put in ur 2 week notice

Any idea how to find partners to push on 3v3 ?
actually arenas could be a lot more fun if there were only melees
casters are all aids
why does this guy play rdruid why does he want to ruin the game for others
Casters are intellectuals.
I find being open to verbal abuse helps alot
why does this guy play rdruid why does he want to ruin the game for others
why does this guy play rdruid why does he want to ruin the game for others
Cuz trees are op and he wants the mog
That’s the comp I ran for my wins 😬😬
we beat them but its aids always with rdruid
We don't expect zug zug melee brain to understand the intricacies and years of study it takes to master the role of Intellect user.
nothing dies
this has to be a bit zechey even fuji doesnt hate rdruid this much
ok so
that's every healer tho
Why
When RDruid is strong play purge spammer specs
I remember watching a wps duo purge bang on every go vs rdruid
thate every busted healer tho I dont understand why rdruid is different here
mw can triangle too
hpal can triangle
Rdruid drinks are too easy
I only hate it when HPals and DPS healers are strong
rdruid has big stuns for it if ur a gamer sure
drinks all game
can be the most gamer word thing in the world
look at dino
prime example
no healers cast in this game except mw priest
Dino?
I'll give u drink I guess
u dont have to give me shit im right
any busted healer can do that

look at ineffable hpal s4 bfa
Corruption meta doesn't count
That's not a normal meta
win game by afking
that's dumb
that's not a real rdruid
real
real @vestal citrus ?
u know yuumi
Paw, claw, heal, and cuddle. The Magical Cat bops them all!
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Yuumi Champion Teaser:
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Yuumi Cham...
this
this is rdru
real rdruid is flop godcomp ripping shit up
@ me
I'm personally interested to see how 2 sec Echo of Light plays
cat
ur making a case for my point
godcomp is absolutely toxic
ww arcane rdru
toxic
it requires good play
that's literally any comp if u go long enough games
I'm triggered delete this please
u cant do that shit with disc
u cant do that shit with hpal u just oom eventually
u run out of shit
rdru extends games
idk how u dont see that
I just like rdru
disc ur on a timer sure
playing with a rdru in any brack is kinda like playing with a aff
Okay
u kinda go damp
It it is what it is
idc u do u
but this delusion that rdru isnt compltely toxic
is kinda weird to me
I do see it I just don't know what ur point is
Oh I agree that the playstyle is only fun for one of the two teams
Either you wait for the rdru to oom
thinking rdruid is this omega awful thing when that's just dampening meta in general
bruh
u can triple treant
and ppl dont die
u just sit
and wave at ppl
the class is not ok
Rdru mirrors in shuff regularly go to 70% dampening
its like the least proactive healer outside of mw
Turns out that's how cooldowns work @stray sigil
but mw has to actually cast
🙂
20s cd 3 charges
thats not a cooldown
20 seconds
I like getting reactions
is it any different than hpal never having to cast
When they make Treants unable to be cc'd then I'll say it's bad
cuz they are entirely reliant on cds ?
????
??????????????
Lie
have you played healer in df
my eyes
it's not 0 second cd I mean
lmao stfu
Bro I'm not sub 2k
like it is technically a cooldown JUST SAYING MAN
bruv
Except the part where I'm not
I'm not sub 2k in 3's either
im not gonna argue over -+ 50 cr
lol
my point was clearly
im getting coached
by people
much lower xp
than i am
Fuji only talks to real men like me
Unchained feral druid
ur right and I'm wrong fuji
have a good day man
.

LOL
where did we say make healers awful to play
Your enter key must be getting rusty typing one word per line my man
No wonder the pvp channel is the one with the most lines typed
I just dont understand why rdruid is so kenker to u when it seems like ur just decriping any dampening meta
rdruid :)
anyone can 45y heal
no
lol
evokker quite literally cannot
dsic 45 yards is completely int
anyone can drink when ur wizard triangle
dont need wizard triangle
I'll agree about the cc
I should queue some spell cleave
even the melee ones
are rdru absed
lmfao
rdru turbo
rdru dh dk
rdru ret war
idk much about tsg
but i assume tsg too
he cute
what are ethical comps to u fuji cuz it seems like its literally just jungle
bold move thinking he knows what ethical means
wasnt when i played
I'll just again politely say thanks for convincing me to start using my target party1/2/self macros instead of mouseovers. Took some play to get used to it, but man it's nice.
fuck keybinds and mouseovers
ye fair
no
feral doesnt need that
feral needs a lot of shit lol
it said waddup nerds
Rdru turbo was fun also ran that this week
I dont want another dh spec
that mfering 3min cd wall 6s duration
Turbo highly unethical
has gots to go
double wall charges
that shit is compltely awful
@safe heart what is ethical then
Ret war
Ret war free win
I queue only destro feral hpal cuz I'm a ethical gamer
thats a ethical comp
But turbo like we just have rdru crank hps while we do mega dam and hope for back to back casino procs for insta win
enji do you just tak about shuffles
Whatcha mean
Setup no 🙅♂️
Casino ascendance 👍
real
ret warr is so aids sometimse in 3s
I mean u better cc right or ur not killing anyone
yes but its quite literally
impossible
to miss
Ret is so easy to just clone forever
I can't play 3s cuz I can't get a group
why clone the target
I usually go war vs Ret war
show him ur huge bulge
war bugged atm
ok but that's the all cc if u set it up right
not good idea
how do u set it up wrong though
im so scared of cloning warriors
Warrior been broken for too long now
spell reflect
i mean impending is bugged atm
Just check em once or twice
fake it
cranking healing
See if they suck at reflect or not
Moonfire it off
I like monkey warriors who are killing me and instead of kicking clone they reflect and I save myself with cloneeee
Even better, Soothe it off.

I don't have soothe 
Yes you do
isnt soothe needed for charge
Do I
or is that changed
It's forced.
Maybe idk lmao
I can make you a weakauea that screams if they cast spell reflect ?
Yeah mf doesn't reflect
Which is odd
so like no point even binding it
Catfire isn't reflected on to you
regular moon fire does
hence why i said feral with li talented
It's LI, that's why I said Catfire
buff feral nerf rdruid
@tiny oar you play mm or unethical ?
survival one trick
thats a odd question
isnt mm
unethical
atm
Talk about Destro all day there

bully me instead :3
Unless this is the unannounced Destruction Druid spec.
i have been
No
@clear fox why do u say mm is not unethical
I just wanna jungle to 2.1k w trevvy




