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exotic wolf
broken junco
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Lake is Drinking

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Lake is Drinking Lake water

tiny oar
tiny oar
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DO IT

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IVE COMMITTED WAR CRIMES TODAY

viscid remnant
safe heart
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Just no diff them
It's easy

tiny oar
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TRUE

livid wasp
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jungle any1

safe heart
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Same bro

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Someone actually asked me to play jungle the other day and I told them no
KEKW

viscid remnant
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????

safe heart
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It was a guy who I refuse to play with tho

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If it was someone else I would've

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Dude basically pushed to 2350 with me, I had to go out of town so he finished glad without me and ghosted me rest of the season

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And he spent 80% of that push blaming me for most of our L's

exotic wolf
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I'd refuse too

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sounds like a dumb prick

safe heart
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He kept using the excuse when I got back that he would only play if I found a good mistweaver lol
And it's like "okay yeah man, ima just pull a good mw to play mw jungle at 2400mmr"

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In SL s3

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We actually got to that mmr as mw jungle lol but I think our mw was just really good , not that mw was ideal lmao

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Hunters deflect blame like a full time job man

grand mesa
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blame isn't a dot so it's easy to turtle

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sounds like a guy who likes to hit you up to get starter MMR uintil he can find a feral that he wants for glad push

safe heart
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That's about it

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He was at 0 cr so makes sense

grand mesa
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fuck him

safe heart
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He doesn't even think jungle is good lol
He mainly plays dh bm or bm demo , shit like that

exotic wolf
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I'd even delete that dude from my flist

grand mesa
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yeah

exotic wolf
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super hard to keep an active network of good players

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but this one is definetely not one to save

grand mesa
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thats def a fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me type of situation

exotic wolf
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^

safe heart
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Maybe I rejoin wpvp discord

grand mesa
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should really look into pykancleave imo

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looks like a gg comp why not

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and pykan hungry to play so

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unless ur hell bent on jungle which doesn't even seem that great rn idk

safe heart
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Nah jungle is just my comfort zone

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I'll play with pykan, sounds cool

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Idc if I get a cheese glad or not

grand mesa
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tbh idk if it's even cheese but idk the comp

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is it cheese just cause it has an aug? like it or not aug is staying so

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if its new normal 🤷‍♂️

safe heart
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Works for me

grand mesa
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yeah get that bag

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bro

safe heart
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@haughty compass Evoker feral when

viscid remnant
grand mesa
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theyu need a FW i know one

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@viscid remnant

viscid remnant
haughty compass
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M+ arena

safe heart
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Do you take 0cr ferals

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With 1700 shuffle xp

grand mesa
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waht even makes it cheese pykan

haughty compass
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Idk, aug just kinda busted

haughty compass
# safe heart Do you take 0cr ferals

I’ve only done 3s on main a couple times. I just create Evokers, get to a rating that’s too try hard and start a new one. Lol. Shuffle is fun

safe heart
grand mesa
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maybe im fried but i don't think a comp is cheese just cause it has aug in it. not with them creating a new role and theyre the first of presumably more and maybe missed the mark on it. just new normal

haughty compass
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🤷‍♂️ I still like dev more, but Aug pretty easy to play and it’s strong

safe heart
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Can try both

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Idk if dev feral is good bht fk it

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I've been told if ur good anything will work

grand mesa
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idk i think feral dev would take the D too much but idk

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might just be healer complaining bitching bias

haughty compass
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Id like whoever the healer is to keep playing, so I just dev in shuffle 🤣

grand mesa
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are u not playing with your dk friend anymore?

haughty compass
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We did some aug dk, but he just plays other stuff atm

safe heart
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2nd idea is become cdew with it on rsham

haughty compass
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Except Wednesday evenings

safe heart
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I'm not actually good at rsham btw
I just boosted it 3days ago

haughty compass
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We can cap your shaman demo / rsham 2s ez

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I don’t care bro, I hit my goals I just like to play

safe heart
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Sure that'd be cool to practice no pressure

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I'll buy the green pvp gear

haughty compass
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I get the dumb little legend pennant and ksm mount and I’m a happy camper lol

safe heart
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Does itemrack work yet

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Also I was thinking about matchigs target keybinds lately

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Is it Q E F cursed

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Cuz

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I almost like it when not playing druid

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My druid forms are q e f

haughty compass
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Idk I just tab

safe heart
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I mean for healing

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Your party

viscid remnant
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and most ppl consider fistweaver kinda cheesy

safe heart
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Yo I hate cheese IRL

untold spade
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Could you guys help a brother out.. I am looking for a macro that allows me to mouseover Wildcharge (every version) if I have a mouseover target, and use my current target if I don't have a mouseover target

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I'm wondering if this can be achieved, considering the variety of wild charges Druid has

tardy hare
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Uuuuh

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/cast [exist, @mouseover] Wild Charge; wild charge

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Idk something like that

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Or [@mouseover, exist]

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Not sure

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Exists actually not exist

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/cast [@mouseover, exists] wild charge; wild charge

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@untold spade try last one

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Maybe need to remove space after , before exists if it doesnt work

untold spade
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Toppertje

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👍

tardy hare
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😎

tropic schooner
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But should work

tardy hare
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Perfect

clear fox
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@livid wasp is Aug feral not a thing ?

stray sigil
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@clear pulsar

livid wasp
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it is but I wanna stay in safe space with jungle-

clear fox
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Was just curious

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If rdru is Rat whenever servers come up

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Probs gonna get the priest geared

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For end of season push

clear pulsar
safe heart
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We are gunna find out

clear pulsar
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Druid is def the worst healer in shuffle

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The thing is nobody gets hard countered by a bad lobby like rdru

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Its ridiculous

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Grove guardian was buggy when I tested. I think the only way it makes up for the 4% nerf is if the talent is good on its own without upgrade, which would save 1 point from nourish + wild synthesis.

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But on PTR, if you didnt take the upgrade talent thr trees would sometimes just idle and not heal anything for 5s

livid wasp
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ill face hpala over rdruid in shuffle any day

safe heart
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I would rather fight rdruid I think
Palabop just Ruins like itself

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Although I do enjoy a good ole Korean swap on sac

safe heart
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Sac doesn't do anything for the caster right ?

grand mesa
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@clear pulsar trees look op stream when

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Discord stream it gogogogo

clear pulsar
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I just woke up wdym

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Is server up?

viscid remnant
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mike hawk is up

elfin thicket
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Rdruid guna be weak still imo Hpal meta still in full effect

clear pulsar
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Rdru is good vs hpal

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Its just undertuned

grand mesa
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face

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stream

clear pulsar
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Brother

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I'm making breakfast

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Let me wake up

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Just opening vault for now

livid wasp
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I havent opened that shit in weeks

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annoyed last major patch when I had to open months worth of vaults before getting to the new one

solar silo
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For resto in PvP

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What PvP talents are you using depending on what classes you play?

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I’m always stuck on keeper of the grove, reactive resin and focussed growth…

clear pulsar
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Reactive resin is completely pathetic

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The only use case for it is against evokers

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But there is nothing really locked in for that 3rd slot, sometimes Thorns is good, High Winds is good if you Clone consistently, Reactive Resin vs evokers, Deep Roots sometimes against pet classes

clear fox
wanton ridge
clear pulsar
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Yeah I'm perma early spring but uh

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Idk if I should recommend that

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I play a whole weird setup

wanton ridge
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are you gonna play embrace?

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could synergize well with early spring

clear pulsar
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No shot

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I'd rather play invigorate

wanton ridge
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Oh I would have to pick wild synthesis too uh

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And maybe you're right, I don't think I'd cast WG enough in shuffle without running oom to be worth it

clear pulsar
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Nah

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The treant WG is not your WG

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Their spells dont interact with your talents at all, it's their spells, diff spell ids even

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They inherit your stats, your mastery, your haste

wanton ridge
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oh yeah I saw that, I just meant picking embrace in general

clear pulsar
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I think wild synthesis is bait

wanton ridge
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I wouldn't cast it myself often enough to spend one point at the bottom

clear pulsar
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But tree bros look like they work fine without it, which they didnt in PTR, they just stood still not doing anything if you didnt have the upgrade

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So this is good

wanton ridge
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I'll have to test it and check numbers, they might be a good oh shit button or not i havent seen anything yet

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but prob just send on cd uh

clear pulsar
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@wanton ridge

viscid remnant
clear pulsar
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I'm downloading wclogs uploader rn to check something about their targeting

edgy shale
clear pulsar
viscid remnant
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Nope

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Ben gifted me

edgy shale
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durge run owning btw

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im keeping a memento from each of them

viscid remnant
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You got another month of silly emotes

wanton ridge
viscid remnant
clear pulsar
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Yep it's random targeting

wanton ridge
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idk why it says "on that target" if it says "or a nearby ally"

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could just say on a nearby ally and it'd be less vague

clear pulsar
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Yeah it doesnt stay on its target, it doesnt follow targets you have lifebloom or any hots vs no hots at all

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Just whether they're missing HP or not

wanton ridge
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which I guess isn't that all bad

clear pulsar
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Well it can be pretty bad

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If you're at 90% hp and its spamming 9k nourishes on you

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Instead of 55k nourishes on the warlock at 30% hp

wanton ridge
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oh I misread

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thought you said "based on missing hp" but its not that at all, yeah ok, it can be bad :P

livid wasp
hollow condor
safe heart
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What's the mastery light bringer gif

grand mesa
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tree homies looking good

tiny oar
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yoo

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new patch what's good rdruid still awful??

nimble stirrup
# tiny oar new patch what's good rdruid still awful??

according to the ppl in the skill-capped discord resto is pretty strong right now and people are pumping up their rating... however also seems that not a lot of people are aware of how it mechanically works thus are not really countering them either

ripe ember
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I'm not sure I understand what changed outside of being able to go treants, but are they better than nourish in arena?

viscid remnant
clear fox
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Rdru likely S tier shuffle

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But A tier 3s I think

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Mana still presents a massive issue in longer games, especially when compared to hpala and new monk talents

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But god damn can we crank some heals right now with treants

ripe ember
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my treants don't cast swiftmend

clear fox
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They do tho

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Like they don’t get cast unless they can swiftmend

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Their swiftmend doesn’t extend hots though

grand mesa
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Nor do they generate sotf proc for you

exotic wolf
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gm heybear

ripe ember
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it's not showing in my details then

clear pulsar
viscid remnant
clear pulsar
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Damn

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Thats wild

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@ripe ember expand the swiftmend

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The treants swiftmend is countd along with yours but you can click it to expand and show separate when you open details breakdown

clear pulsar
viscid remnant
clear pulsar
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MAN LET DRUID LIVE SHIT GONNA GET NERFED BEFORE THE WEEK IS OVER WHEN WE BEEN GUTTER TIER FOR MONTHS

viscid remnant
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i dont even really care

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just shitposting

grand mesa
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I feel bad for rdruids pogging out rn we all know what’s gonna happen 🤣

clear pulsar
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Its crazy cuz

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We kept getting nerfed when we were bottom half of healers already

grand mesa
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You know what’s gonna happen

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I kinda like understood all the nerfs rdruids got in DF for one reason or another even if I didn’t necessarily agree. The VI nerf was way out of left field though. Idk why that one happened 🤣

clear pulsar
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Oh yeah it's completely broken in PVE

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Especially M+

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In raid I think the 6% nerf does offset it well

grand mesa
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And that’s why I feel bad for pvp rdruids. It’s gonna get taken out back and they’re not gonna exactly understand why lmao

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But I am free of being afraid of blue posts. I pray for your mental face. Enjoy it while it’s fun and don’t worry about the future. BE LIKE @tiny oar. BE IN THE MOMENT AND BE ZEN.

clear pulsar
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I just logged in

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Got a few easy tenders

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Did nelf heritage

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Not fussed over it tbh I'm aight

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Been more fussed over how to build my new character in bg3

grand mesa
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I’m excited to hear what u think of dos2

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Cause I think a lot of folks went dos2-> bg3 u might be only one I know personally who’s checking it out after the fact

clear pulsar
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I look at it and just decided to replay BG3 for now

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I wanna go into the game knowing how it works

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DOS2 I realized uses a totally diff system so I just left it for later

grand mesa
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I still don’t quite have a solid grasp of class action bonus action and whatever action

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I just press shit and hope I can press another shit and eventually I get a feel of what I can or can’t press

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🤣

clear pulsar
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I'm really trying to make a spellblade build that looks good but idk

viscid remnant
exotic wolf
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why everytime im here lake is super hyper capslock

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is this the new Lake?

tiny oar
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ALL CAPS ALL THE TIME

untold spade
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How's Waking Dream over Improved Regrowth? I feel like I don't really get much use out of Improved Regrowth lately

livid wasp
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rdruid is broken now??

exotic wolf
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after what I have read this morning in #pvp yes

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those treants seem/are broken

livid wasp
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oh god

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its a nightmare

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rdruids everywhere

clear pulsar
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Yeah the treants are bonkers

livid wasp
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like 3 free swiftmends

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and they spam heals on the target

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for 15 seconds

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3 charges

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that sounds so broken

clear pulsar
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They're weaker than the druid spells

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But they need to shift some of its power to the upgrade

livid wasp
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can feral get treants back too, it was fun

polar nymph
clear pulsar
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Q it up @polar nymph

polar nymph
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What am I queuing?

clear pulsar
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Idk nothing I closed game time for bg3 again

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That was a healer shuffle q time

polar nymph
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I'm healing 3s

clear pulsar
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I got into a game, the ret paladin quit mid 3rd round

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Mf was 1-1

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Just had to ruin it for me

viscid remnant
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wow rly dead

grand mesa
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Morning

clear pulsar
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@grand mesa tree is so broken

grand mesa
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Calllled itttttt

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U were all like psh it’s gonna be like resin again

clear pulsar
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I was legit doing >100k hps for 2 min straight and tree was almost 20% of it without the wild growth upgrade

grand mesa
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Ya

polar nymph
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That's the guy I just faced, that pretty standard?

clear pulsar
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Is your team doing negative pressure

polar nymph
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Nah

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Aug, WW

drowsy fjord
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do the swiftmends of the trees refresh our hots?

clear pulsar
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No]

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They cast their own spells, not ours

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They inherit our stats but their spells arent the same as ours and theirs arent affected by our talents

grand mesa
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I look forward to watching your 2400 stream bestie

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now u can afford to play ur insane melee rdruid in their face2face build and get CC and win 👍

polar nymph
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This is face2face, he'll still complain 😛

grand mesa
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face isn't a perennial complainer

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he's not a zechey

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he's just very uhh passionate about certain topics

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like tranq darts

tiny oar
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yo FUCK TRANQ DARTS

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WORTHLESS FUCKING EMBELLISHMENT

grand mesa
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that's healing darts dear

tiny oar
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OH HAHAHHAHA

grand mesa
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tranq darts is

tiny oar
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yea no FUCK THAT SHIT TOO MAN

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DELETE IT FEOM THE GAME

safe heart
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Why is work today

clear pulsar
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Dude

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My pc is fried

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I swapped linux distro

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So when I installed the new one now my bios doesnt recognize windows is installed

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To boot into

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But when I'm on linux I can see the drive there just fine, I can mount and peep the files

grand mesa
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@wanton ridge

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help this man

viscid remnant
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No wow on my computer

grand mesa
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i only reinstalled to give back 2 mil gold

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moment i started hopping around town pressing rejuv

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and it felt good

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i uninstalled insta

wanton ridge
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@clear pulsar what distro

clear pulsar
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Linux mint rn

viscid remnant
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Rn

wanton ridge
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can you try apt install os-prober

clear pulsar
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Thing is I dont even know how to search this on google

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I'm gonna try ubuntu's boot repair tool first

wanton ridge
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think they removed that from default setups, thats the thing that adds other oses to the boot loader

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then in /etc/default/grub there should be something about os-prober, like GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER it might be set to false, set it to true

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er, the opposite lol

clear pulsar
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It was already installed

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And nothing about prober in the grub file

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I'm just downloading windows iso here to run windows repair

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Ubuntu disk repair gave me something about windows boot being legacy mode

wanton ridge
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That's weird, that shouldn't matter (it worked before right). Do you have a file called somethin like "xx_os-prober" in /etc/grub.d (mine is 09_os-prober)

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if you run sudo os-prober what do you see

tiny oar
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STAY STRONG

polar nymph
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Resto seems pretty normal to me

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HPal still 50x more broken

clear pulsar
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rmdir: failed to remove '/var/lib/os-prober/mount': Device or resource busy

wanton ridge
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yeah im not sure why thats happening, plan b would be to add windows manually to grub config like in the old days

clear pulsar
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Is it grub tho

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When I go to the boot options in my bios settings there is no windows

wanton ridge
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idk i dont go to bios ;/

clear fox
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@clear pulsar you shame me for caring too much about gear, but you know too much not to ask. Should I run a 450mh/447 offhand and a 450 neck/ring. Or is better to run 450 2h and 447 neck/ring

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gain 28 int but lose 75 stam and slightly more secondaries

polar nymph
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It doesn't matter

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That kind of optimization might decide 1 in 1000 games.

clear pulsar
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I am staring at windows repair tool for a while brother hold on

clear fox
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LET ME COOK

grand mesa
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You do you Ben be the stat ho

clear fox
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I know it dosent truly matter

grand mesa
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Nogard was shocked when he found out you had 24 mastery

clear fox
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but you dont get 24% mastery without cooking

grand mesa
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That’s cooking a 9 course meal

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We say stats don’t matter to newer players because they obsess about it in lieu of focusing on gameplay but Ben already 2400 and all he has left is to optimize and cook

clear fox
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If you liked me at 24%

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how about

polar nymph
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More move pls

clear fox
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Id have to talent cat things

polar nymph
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Accelerated Agility boys unite

clear fox
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and nogard sent me to class when I tried to play aggro

haughty compass
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Tree bros looking good 👀

clear fox
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But have you had a tree bro's nourish hit for 70k?

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I had one in 'testing' hit 90k non crit. Albeit in a fake situation

polar nymph
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I've been facing a team with a Boomy using Rake stun

grand mesa
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Do you know the breakpoint for 7/8/9 casts Ben

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I think that’s the only thing I would consider

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Say you’re really close to the next cast

clear fox
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30% haste is the only reasonable one for pvp

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thn its like 42 or 44%

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and then 57% I think

grand mesa
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Yeah the 42 and 44 that’s pve levels

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For raid m+

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I don’t think you even want 30 imo

clear fox
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yes 30% for 9 / 44% for 10

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57% for 11

grand mesa
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But say the next +1 cast is 21% and you’re at 20.2% hypothetically

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Might be worth tweaking

clear fox
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oh yea would for sure jump up the haste to get there

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I think we do 30% haste next season

grand mesa
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Yeah so that’s why might be worth to investigate the lower breakpoints

polar nymph
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I feel like I'm back in BfA calculating how much haste to fit another Arcane Blast in Arcane Power reading this.

clear fox
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but with curent ilevel have to drop all kinda mastery

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or run with galactic greed levels of versa

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(which is really fun)

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since youre just slamming buttons all the time with the short globals

grand mesa
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Sometbing sometbjng just verdancy

clear fox
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and see how much it costs, I think like 19-20% mast/30% haste should leave somewhere like 10-14% versa

grand mesa
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I can’t imagine an extra cast will feel that impactful

clear fox
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and Im a light live-lord if I try

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I feel like our main problem in 3s will continue to be mana

grand mesa
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Nogard mentioned something about trees keeping u in combat

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Is that actually right

clear fox
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in shuffle you just spend and dont care, and were almost 100% deserving a nerf there

grand mesa
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Was more of a passing observational comment by him

clear fox
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It seems to be correct

polar nymph
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Pets do that

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If they heal a target in combat they likely put you in combat

clear fox
polar nymph
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Mirror Images from Mages attacking will keep them in combat.

viscid remnant
grand mesa
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Ah

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Well

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I guess it would be too good to be true

clear fox
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So I think we may need to be playing master shapeshifter

grand mesa
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To triple homie drink

clear fox
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which then also requires more haste to get the globals in

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We gotta cook up a build that can either master shapeshifter mana

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or just other talents that dont delete the mana bar

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heal without germination and pickup tree form the likely 3s play

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if nogard was losing on mana that is?

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I couldnt watch the 3s section of the stream

grand mesa
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He seemed to be crushing it

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When his talent loadout with trees actually loaded

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He had buggy shit so he was playing 10.1.5 rdruid half the time

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Lot of other Druids

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Seems like they all came out of hibernation

clear fox
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The activity graph of druids

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is massive on shuffle

polar nymph
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Good

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Dethrone Paladin

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pls

tiny oar
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FUCK HPALAS

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I HATE THEM ALL

grand mesa
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Zen lakez!

grand mesa
polar nymph
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I still don't know why Zechey hates facing Druid

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It's the most fair healer in the game imo

grand mesa
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I can’t wait for zechey to call for actual harm irl to rdruid players (again)

clear fox
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If blizz is balancing for shuffle

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were getting slapped in a week

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if blizz balancing for 3s, maybe not. Remains to be seen throgh the weekend

grand mesa
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I think they’re the most obnoxious when they’re strong and just hard to balance in general

clear fox
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Maybe Ive only played druid when its been copping endless nerfs

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but Id like to invest in puzzle's statement of

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Druid hots too strong, druid runs around runing everyones day with clones/cat/damage

grand mesa
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We preach to be 45 yards and afk

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Do nothing but heal

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But that’s your win condition

clear fox
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Which is the world Ive been living in since I picked up rdru

grand mesa
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And it works

clear fox
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and I dont mind it tbh, but having the time to send surge every 10 seconds is kinda fun

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aint disc prist damage now that we dont have deep focus but was doing 700-1M most rounds in shuff

polar nymph
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Disc damage isn't Disc damage either

ripe ember
safe heart
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I don't mind fighting rdruids
I feel like I can just fuck with them for 15 seconds and completely throw them off

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The millisecond I get barkskin I stop hitting them and swap

grand mesa
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Zechey doesn’t believe in swaps tho he believes in hitting into cen ward and 7 hots

polar nymph
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Not swapping as a Feral Druid?

safe heart
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Oh you press PS? Cloned

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Oh you barkskin? Swapped

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Evasion? Rooted , eat moonfires idiot

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Parry? Rooted, rooted. Oof, rooted again

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Just gotta play obnoxiously as possible as a feral imo

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I'll root ppl 5 inches outside of domes

tropic schooner
polar nymph
#

So Zechey is the Druid Asmongold

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Burst in to Thorns, "why am I dead?"

tardy hare
#

Yes

tropic schooner
#

No

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hes not asking why am I dead

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hes saying q_q thorns imba

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impossible to beat

clear pulsar
viscid remnant
safe heart
#

Man I love seeing 200k dmg in thorns

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Pre bear pre thorn on kidney is the best feeling

grand mesa
#

Enji ur thing about thorns between the two warriors still slays me

livid wasp
#

enji you know everything about how to beat rdruids how cant you get 1.8k

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ps. rdruids are the most cancer thing in the game

#

im not fucking queueing shuffle ever again if its just going to be rdruids from now on

viscid remnant
grand mesa
tardy hare
#

Just swap target

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Gg rdru oom

livid wasp
#

in rbgs its whatever ill have fun calling a hard switch on the rdruid and seeing him disappear

#

in arenas its just aids

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hots on everyone nobody dying

#

not fun

safe heart
#

Wasn't it a game where I did like 800k dmg or something absurd with thorns lol

safe heart
grand mesa
#

No it’s when your warrior said why aren’t your thorns doing as much as the other feral Druids your damage sucks

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And the warrior was punching into it and the enemy warrior wasn’t

safe heart
#

OH YEAH LMAO

#

I hope I screenshotted that somewhere

safe heart
clear pulsar
#

Well, 8

#

Dreamstate gang

#

The gang pull up wyd

#

@livid wasp cry about it

safe heart
#

Maybe you can cleave them down easily

clear pulsar
#

They have 325k hp

clear fox
#

The answer is wait 15 seconds till you’re out of omega juice

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But for those 15 seconds could outheal a fdk / deva while standing still

grand mesa
#

Lmao face love that pic

livid wasp
#

why does blizzard introduce these major changes mid patch

#

now everyones gonna switch to rdruid

#

it was already the worst healer to face as jungle

tiny oar
grand mesa
#

I’m just glad my rdruid friends are having fun

livid wasp
#

blacklist option would save pvp

clear pulsar
#

Dude

#

I just lost a few rounds cuz some of this weird ass workspaces keybind shorcuts on linux mint

#

Kept minimizing my game and sending it to other workspaces when I'm using my shit

surreal heron
#

actual skill issue

polar nymph
#

I'm not memeing, it's actually hurting my eyes

clear pulsar
#

Just ridiculous

surreal heron
#

despite being right next to each other, it seems difficult to accidentally press

tiny oar
surreal heron
#

mood

clear pulsar
#

Its not accidental it just never came up before cuz I didnt have an off gcd heal I was trying to press mid jump holding alt

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So the kicker is alt is for self casting

#

Which means my game fried up when I was being shat on and wanted to heal myself

#

So I just died instead

polar nymph
#

This pleases Zechey

clear pulsar
#

I just disabled all keybinds I could find related to any key remotely close to my wow spells

polar nymph
#

Also @clear pulsar, nabbed another 2100 on the Priest.

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Healers can't stop winning

clear pulsar
#

I can

clear pulsar
polar nymph
#

uhh

#

For all matches?

#

I delet it

viscid remnant
polar nymph
#

Most matches were won by not being caught out with no access to Serenity charges and pumping out Holy Fires early

#

So not really healing meter

ripe ember
#

if you're not going wild synthesis, where are you putting that extra point?

lone zenith
#

What are the talents to go for solo shuffle as resto druid please?

polar nymph
#

Anyone got a talent list for skirms for Resto?

clear pulsar
#

You said 'disc damage isnt disc damage'

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So I was curious

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Cuz like when I play disc atonement is 50% of my meter I do 20k dps

polar nymph
#

Oh, I'm Holy

clear pulsar
#

Oh truuuuue

#

Yeah no forget that

polar nymph
#

The real Holy DPS caster spec

tiny oar
#

holy priest..........

clear pulsar
#

Lake watch me pls I need your guidance and attention

polar nymph
#

And by disc damage isn't disc damage I just mean the spec doesn't do the kind of damage people associate the spec with usually, anymore

#

You streaming?

#

Strummer

tiny oar
polar nymph
#

You cannot stop me

viscid remnant
tiny oar
tiny oar
polar nymph
#

Did you think I was FOTM?

#

I'd be disgusted at me too then

viscid remnant
lone zenith
#

Are u guys playing Nourish or Treants for shuffle?

tiny oar
polar nymph
#

I'll heal literally any comp as Holy

#

Limiting yourself to just RMP on the spec is so, well, limiting.

clear pulsar
#

Warlocks are not real people

#

They are mindflayers

polar nymph
#

That's Shadow Priests

#

They're Mindflayers

#

Literally

safe heart
#

I am rshaman main

clear pulsar
#

I actually lost a roudn to this warlock

livid wasp
#

rdruids

safe heart
#

Warlock players are my least favorite for sure

#

They all think lock is just the hardest class in the game

livid wasp
#

I hate other ferals

#

my pulse always rises when I see one cause its like I have to prove something

polar nymph
wanton ridge
#

btw if anyone else is a mouse-thumb-button-strafer gamer, 10.1.7 broke it again (it also did it 10.1)

#

made a forum post about it in 10.1, blue dev said they fixed it and it came back yesterday, we wiped a couple of times due to me just running off the platform on sark, fun times

safe heart
#

I only hate when your teammates like to directly compare you to the other one and then decide you were the sole factor that caused them to lose

#

Like the other feral will out dmg you for whatever reason and they're like " why does he do dmg and you dont"

#

As if there's no other factors that go into that

polar nymph
#

Say it ain't so

clear pulsar
#

Omnicd is so cooked for me

#

But the numbers dont lie

#

I listen to tswizzle I win 6-0

#

Other music = 2-4

solar silo
#

Treants are fucking amazing

#

Love it

grand mesa
#

I’d watch but I’m working

haughty compass
#

R Druid being meta is good for me 👍

grand mesa
#

I’ll catch the vod face

livid wasp
#

rdruid meta

grand mesa
#

I can’t wait for more zechey takes

tiny oar
#

I can

#

HOMIE NEEDS TO HIT UNINSTALL AND LEAVE DISCORD TO NEVER BE TEMPTED INTO WOW AGAIN

safe heart
#

Trees are bulllahit cuz it's making me cleave harder so ppl have higher standards for my (pad) dmg

grand mesa
#

Think of all the apex procs with homies everywhere to cleave

safe heart
#

Apex procs don't matter cuz rdruid has rejuv

#

Cancels out

clear fox
#

@clear pulsar good luck have fun

safe heart
#

Need live updates

#

1700 boomie

#

Ez 3-3

clear fox
#

thats a feral

clear pulsar
#

So how come the lock does 60k dps on my team

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And 110k dps on your team

clear fox
#

becasue I kited in a circle

clear pulsar
#

Explain to me right now how this is not griefing

clear fox
#

so he could free cast

grand mesa
#

MY MAN

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@safe heart

clear pulsar
#

Ok so I'm sitting still in the same spot of the map

#

For 2 mins

#

62k dps

clear fox
#

Idk why were banging the rdrus every game

clear pulsar
#

Is it some sort of mental stimulus if I kite in a circle?

clear fox
#

the aff just ran train on everyone

clear pulsar
#

Because the lock is griefing me

#

We played last lobby too

grand mesa
#

What’s the score

clear pulsar
#

1-5

safe heart
#

Circle kite too fresh too clean

clear fox
#

just watched the replay

safe heart
#

Is the feral winning

grand mesa
#

Enji knows I was all about That

clear fox
#

and you def shoulda won round 4 I think

safe heart
#

Puzzle is a true splay player

#

Knows how to do it

clear fox
#

rd 5

#

rather

grand mesa
#

(Any rdruid can play splay)

safe heart
#

But not just any rdruid can run in circle formation

clear pulsar
#

Yeah

#

When the healer kites in circles it makes the warlock aroused I believe

#

So they do meaningful damage

#

Instead of just free casting standing still which is boring

safe heart
#

I wish more rdruids would eat kicks for me so I can cyclone bang everything

clear fox
#

I try

#

especially now with treants

safe heart
#

Did the feral go 6-0

clear pulsar
#

Do you think he was doing 11k dps on my team the 2 rounds before this?

livid wasp
#

I hate you rdruids

clear pulsar
#

Must be PI

#

I think I got PI gapped only explanation

safe heart
#

What class is mienie

clear pulsar
#

Evoker

#

Wait no thats not it

clear fox
clear pulsar
clear fox
#

@clear pulsar its straight impossible to climb

#

its stupid next game had healer with -80 mmr

clear pulsar
#

Nah ofc it isnt

clear fox
#

and was a minute que

clear pulsar
#

You climbed

#

But idk

#

This is the only thing that tilts me in this game

#

Someone being god incarnat on enemy team

#

After doing Shadowlands DPS on mine

#

For 3 rounds straight

#

It's so absurd

clear fox
#

You were crankig galactic hps numbers

#

what spec you run now

#

saw flourish but rest standard ish?

clear pulsar
#

Yeah

#

I was thinking of last point if it should be

#

Treant upgrade, dreamstate, or verdancy

#

I think I like dreamstate but against the lock I wanted to verdancy

clear fox
#

I went with verdancy after saw you run it

#

since dont have to be in own efflo to get trigger

clear pulsar
#

Treant upgrade not very cash money

clear fox
#

felt nice when we were getting banged

#

tranq cdr kinda clutch

clear pulsar
#

Idk I'm just tilted I have to close game

clear fox
#

since will almost always have a tree ready off gcd

clear pulsar
#

Maybe later today we come back stronger than ev before

clear fox
#

does feel like rdru some kinda shuffle goat right now

#

can blast mana and damp

#

but 3s dont seem S+ tier

clear pulsar
#

Yeah thats whats aggravating

#

I wanna be winning before we cop the nerf

#

When we were dog I didnt care about losing one bit

clear fox
#

eyy rdru increased rank 1 slots to 6 (+1)

#

Just wonder how much nerf will be

#

if its a lot we straight rat tier in 3s since still have mana problem

clear pulsar
#

First game I played vs another rdru

#

I was cloning their trees

#

I think locks can banish it

#

And whatever other CC can go on elementals

gloomy nova
#

Might be early but does it feel like resto got buffed overall or?

clear fox
#

Big boof

#

S tier shuffle

#

A tier 3s, still have mana problem in longer games

livid wasp
#

nightmare fuel

safe heart
#

Does rdruid oom rsham

clear fox
#

Maybe? Can’t say I have seen many shamans

#

But we don’t oom pala / monk

safe heart
#

Rsham sucks in shuffle I guess

#

Feel like ur cds are so dependant on ppl not being regarded

clear fox
#

feels like Sham near bottom of shuff healers

#

Need your team to play around you

#

And they aren’t going to

#

3s seem solid enough for them

safe heart
#

I want my rsham so I can get carried in 3s

grand mesa
#

They should let us name our homies for flavor

livid wasp
#

-.-

safe heart
#

Treecko

viscid remnant
safe heart
clear fox
#

Treeboi Treeboy & Trebowy

safe heart
#

And hannahuwu

gloomy nova
#

Do we drop germination in shuffle?

#

And go smth like this

clear fox
#

I think you can, I havent really tried yet

safe heart
#

That doesn't look like the starter build to me

clear fox
#

been dropping circle and going master shapeshifter

viscid remnant
#

I hate this version of the tree so much

#

Circle makes me cringe

gloomy nova
clear fox
#

that you dont burn your hots out 15% faster kekw

gloomy nova
#

shapeshifter is complete trash tho

clear fox
#

idk 733k damage last shuffle round

#

My gear is setup to be rather far away

#

and have the time to throw in a few surges here and there

#

and If you dont need the 1 point in cirlce not really a better choice in the tree

gloomy nova
#

Its not rly that i need circle

#

its just that shapeshifter is alot worse

#

Spending global on going moonkinform in solo

#

is suicide

#

to deal 30% more dmg on surges?

clear fox
#

I can send you a clip of me doing it

#

right now

#

with 2500 mmr dps

gloomy nova
#

I don't doubt it's possible

clear fox
#

I mean I legit take the point

#

mostly becaue I dont want cirlce

#

without germ

#

you need it for sure

#

but with germ you start getting global locks

gloomy nova
#

Im just messing around with the tree atm

#

Not sure what to play

#

To have treeform or Reforestation feels good. Insta roots/poly immune. More healing

#

Im not a fan of circle but u cant rly from Photo it feels like

clear fox
#

I mean this probably the most solid current build

#

boring but it well... just works

#

moving verdancy to wild synthesis / dreamstate can be a play as well but seems about the same power level

gloomy nova
#

Ye that feels kinda standard

#

But its so annoying u cant get 1 more point to get Reforestation lol 😛

livid wasp
#

mitch is so weird

ripe ember
#

are you placing efflorescence that much? seems like people are rarely in it for long

clear fox
#

I was told that I still get healed

#

even if im not standing in it

#

someone just has to be

safe heart
#

Mitchjones?

livid wasp
#

ye

#

yelled into the mic for like 30 mins after dinging 60 in hc kek

#

you american streamers

versed ether
#

are resto druids still stacking mastery after the changes or haste now?

clear fox
#

WE MASTERTY GAMERS

wanton ridge
#

can't wait to queue some tonight this look bonkers

safe heart
#

Apex food

wanton ridge
#

after 1 game, I like tree bros

untold spade
#

Could someone help me a bit with positioning as a Resto Druid? I'm struggling with it quite a bit. I usuals stick around pillars but I notice that my teammates are LoS a lot, but I feel scared of standing in the open because it makes me feel vulnerable. Should I just suck it up and stand more in the open and "eat ccs"?

#

What are good positions to be in as a s Druid, as a baseline (I understand it's very match per match based and I really just want to get a little foundation of what to do so I can start improving from there)

safe heart
#

Have ur hots running and play scared while your dr's are off
Can use meld to detarget yourself to avoid or immune cc

untold spade
safe heart
#

Definitely

untold spade
#

Do you have a recommendation what to use for that?

grand mesa
#

Diminish

safe heart
#

If you're fuji

#

Just use kidney shot as ur DR tracker

#

Which isn't a troll

#

But not every comp has rogue sadly

grand mesa
#

I just set my own DR for stun only tbh

#

With diminish

untold spade
untold spade
grand mesa
#

Picking your moment to go in for bash clone is the finesse part

#

Bad time you get punished

wanton ridge
#

lol, trees man

grand mesa
#

I think trees how they are u can probably go back to more passive

#

And win on pve heal but idk

wanton ridge
#

dude you can can cast trees in bear form

grand mesa
#

Ye

#

Rogues waiting for you to come out of bear to heal so they can kidney in shambles

wanton ridge
#

poor guy complained the other healer let him sit in roots all day long lol 🥲

#

now if only they can fix the mouse strafing bug, i canceled 2 tranqs in those games :x

untold spade
#

Sorry for asking so much btw, I really want to learn and start working on getting better. I'm hardstuck 1800 xD

clear fox
wanton ridge
#

Sometimes you can create your own space, if you cyclone a dps that can give you a direct path to the enemy healer for a free clone

clear fox
#

And the primary target on your team has bloom on them for at least 7-8 seconds

harsh ore
#

@clear pulsar thoughts

grand mesa
#

When your teammate is pressuring and healer gcd locked might be ok

#

They can’t afford to CC games and you might get a trinket insta for free. And less likely to get punished if it’s your momentum

#

Sometimes the dps kinda move in a way where you just have a straight shot at the healer too. Just remember you have a second or two to move away from the healer after bash to cast clone so you don’t get thunder knocked or trinket feared. Or trinket kicked by hpal

clear pulsar
safe heart
#

If your dps are like me, you will be a safe boi cuz I will save you with clones of justice

wanton ridge
#

tbh best way would be to record your games, and re-watch them after and try to spot where you could have gone for clones

untold spade
#

Would it be worth always opening with Rakestun into clone on the healer? Or is that too dependent on the game

grand mesa
#

No that’ll fuck you a lot

untold spade
wanton ridge
#

in 2s that works but in 3s you'll get annihlated

livid wasp
#

I dont understand people who say retail is absolute trash then they spend their days leveling characters on hardcore classic

wanton ridge
#

specially shuffle zug zug

grand mesa
#

Shuffle is like everyone throwing their spellbook on opener

#

If you’re behind on hots you’re many buttons behind between you and your dps getting railed

#

Or if u lose the cc games with enemy healer u burned your trinket for no good reason

#

I’ve seen rdruid lose opener to trinekt kick because he went for the rake clone and got kicked on the clone tettleslul

wanton ridge
untold spade
#

So what would the ideal opener be? I usually wait in stealth until the fight actually starts and then Lifebloom into double rejuv on the main target. And use Swarm into Cen ward SM if the enemy uses cds (which is almost always in ss)

elfin thicket
#

Rdruid op ?

grand mesa
#

If you record your gameplay and post there’s a handful here who would enjoy watching and giving feedback, and it would actually be constructive

safe heart
#

And also roast ur mog

untold spade
#

I'll do that in the future for sure.. Thanks for that tip. I've been playing Resto druid for years but only ever in pve. I've decided I want to start playing pvp since I'm bored of the pve side of things nowadays. So I'm just trying to get like the basic information of how to go about openers/cloning because I haven't really found much on that online thus far

livid wasp
#

disgusting rdruids showing up

untold spade
wanton ridge
grand mesa
untold spade
safe heart
#

Zechy it's just me and you left

#

I give up on sp

untold spade
#

I suppose watching glad streamers play would be a good way to figure out how to start off?

safe heart
#

I'd watch r1s

#

Glads are rat shit

untold spade
#

Is Lontar a R1?

safe heart
#

He's r3 at best

#

Also I have no idea

grand mesa
#

Yes lol

#

I’d watch Nogard

untold spade
#

Nogard, okay. Thank you!

grand mesa
#

Lontar really good too

livid wasp
untold spade
#

I did see Lontar streams a lot but I noticed his vods are sub only. So I'll check both of them out

grand mesa
#

Flop also is insane and rdruid main. But he’s playing HC classic rn

untold spade
#

I see so there's plenty of options

livid wasp
#

I use that for it

untold spade
#

😮

#

Thank you

livid wasp
#

nps

untold spade
#

Also, why would someone use a cancelform macro when you can just press the shapeshift button again?

safe heart
#

I don't use one

untold spade
#

Oh okay

safe heart
#

Most ppl do I think

livid wasp
#

I dunno I just use it

#

too used to it

grand mesa
#

Same

safe heart
#

It's allegedly maybe faster

#

But I've tried and you still have to wait a global to cancel it so

grand mesa
#

?

safe heart
#

I just bind to special form button

untold spade
#

Hmmm okay

#

I guess I'll pass it for now as I'm already stacked on keybinds

#

Thanks so much guys for all the help. I truly appreciate it

grand mesa
#

Oh yeah there was a use case

#

If someone cast hibernate while stunned you could cancelform while stunned

#

And stuff lmao

safe heart
#

You can do that with just the special form bind

grand mesa
#

I actually have no clue what the special form bind is tbh

safe heart
#

There's a a special form bar , you can bind a hot key to that bar

#

In your keybjnds it's literally called like Special Form 1 2 3 4 5 etc

haughty compass
haughty compass
#

They just rotate which healer is the best. It’s druids turn

safe heart
#

Shid they just rotate what class is good

polar nymph
safe heart
polar nymph
#

All is well

safe heart
#

Triple feral 3s when

polar nymph
#

That sounds like the worst comp imaginable

edgy shale
#

wrong

#

they all run convoke

#

gg

polar nymph
#

Until you get a HPal team and they survive by existing.

edgy shale
#

i think hpal would counter a lot of triple dps melee groups lol

polar nymph
#

HPal counters everything

edgy shale
clear pulsar
#

I hate everybody they wont just let rdru be

polar nymph
tiny oar
#

buff rdruid

#

nerf ferals

verbal flame
#

Buff rdruidpeepoYes

safe heart
#

buff rdruid buff feral

clear fox
clear fox
#

mes aura popped off and I just dumped everything

#

and nobodys hp really dipped too bad

clear pulsar
#

Idk what is probable but they should nerf its duration and buff the WG upgrade

#

Even in raid the base talent is 70% of the value

#

The upgrade is still worth it there but way weaker

clear fox
#

could also just throw in +10 seconds on CD

#

and make em more of a choice of when to drop rather than just sending the boys every minor CD

#

Thing is we still suffer from huge mana issues

#

and compared to other healers kits with built in tools to get mana back we've got a not really viable master shapeshifter

#

so right now carried by having mega hps & free time to leverage rest of kit before we run out of mana

clear pulsar
#

Yeah

#

Basically

#

They have 75% uptime and 3 charges

#

It's absurd

#

For sure

edgy shale
#

cxan the meenny just kill them?

#

wats they hp

clear pulsar
#

It's 325k hp

edgy shale
clear pulsar
#

So would be a very large amount of ST damage committed

edgy shale
#

idk why its that high

clear pulsar
#

But they're CCable and I CCd them a decent amount

clear pulsar
edgy shale
clear fox
#

Like I went on a bit of a run on the Druid I was playing today

clear pulsar
#

Yeah at the cost of my sanity

#

Fuck u ben

#

We back stronger than ev before tho 100p

clear fox
#

And was able to carry games into 75% damp

#

You got this

#

You be back stronger than before

clear pulsar
#

Ok I figured out how to not get my vods muted

clear fox
#

Claim what is yours

clear pulsar
#

This is it

viscid remnant
grand mesa
#

tswift and face rdruid shuffle

#

there aren't many better vibes

#

lmao

#

it's against aff but

#

this man is cranking

tiny oar
#

YOU'D FIT PERFECTLY TO ME AND WE'D END THIS LONELINESS MELT THIS CURSE AWAY

#

THOUGH I'LL NEVER KNOW YOUR NAME ILL CRY FOR YOU THE SAME

#

@prime osprey I FOUND YOU

tiny oar
# grand mesa

holy shit face is cranking I gotta get back to rdruid shuffle

grand mesa
#

enjoy it while it lasts yes

tiny oar
#

what's even good for rdru

#

turbo??? fucking aug enc???

grand mesa
#

no clue nogard things caster cleave

tiny oar
#

OH YEA ITS SPLAY TIME BABY

grand mesa
#

lakez facethevoid yungkenker?

tiny oar
#

LAKEMAIM WILL TRIANGLE THE FUCK OUT OF ALL OPPOSITION

grand mesa
#

i can't iomagine u playing triangle

tiny oar
grand mesa
#

u'd get so antsy

tiny oar
#

WDYM MAN I PLAYED THE TRIANGLE TO 2700

#

BFA S4

#

DOUBLE DESTRO RDRUID CRANKER

viscid remnant
grand mesa
#

LOL