#pvp
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crushing it
Bro
I dont feel like I can help anyone anymore
I tanked 400 rating
This month
I'm so done
Mental broken shattered
quit wow
I just recorded my last shuff, will upload while im out biking. do have two rounds where I feel giga lost and dont know what to do better
Just relax and wait for 10.1
whats even the 'meta' or close enough rdru comp
im raising a lot with the tips
been just joining random good people to get to liek 1.8
but cant seem to lift a dh/dk past there if they cant slam somone in the open
im not even close the high cr, but i played demo+lock and LSD on 3s, it was fun
ops sorry
ret+demo lock
and LSd
Jesus ur climbing
But u clearly didn’t belong at 1300-1400 or wherever u dropped down to even without any tips lol
I cant get past 2k even with this inflation
You need 3.5k xp to do that zechy
It's ok
And sounds like having a ret on your team is also required
So consider that and bless up 
ye its actually hilarious
i didnt q on release of ret
but they are still the best class in the game
after like 3 hard nerfas
OL
they were playing 2 xpacs ahead on rework release prob
You would think how big of a numbers nerf they go on so many things they’d fall off but nope
ya anybody not playing with one was legit donating cr
still kinda looks like this now

Now you're only donating 15s instead of 21s
i legit went back and did like 500 points worth of old achievements
i like how they nerf one thing and people just swap to the thing that isn't nerfed
they dont play 1min wings
and nothing changes
Like at this point it’s the kit and feedback loop in how everything works right
they have so much shit
on very low cd
that even if wings is 2mins
doesnt matter
fr + toll
1min each
lol
insane dmg in general
I think ppl said they like the constant changes
Every class is OP for a week
sinful
11.0
hope u made it count
I hate the constant changes tbh. Thought I would like frequent tuning

saul nuts in the devs too hard for enh to get buffs gg
But all it’s done is turn meta over it’s head over and over again
You were the one that came to mind with that comment puzzle lol

tho tbf i think next tier
enh could b a bit cracked
Ya and I thought they’d slowly knock outliers on both ends up and down until we had some sense of balance
the tier is super insane i tihnk
They need to remove evoker and revert talent trees back to mop talents and that will fix dragon flight
Instead they just turn chart upside down lmao
@fair mirage is ur enh excited about next tier set
na just make it so rip does mop/wod lvl dmg
but its doomed fro feral
cuz pw is a thing
rip can never be strong
i think we were trying to figure out how to reliably get isolated sunders or something
Dh spr -> dev fdk -> ret -> assa meta with disc and warrior -> ret again with FW
the lust change is very nice
Just a headache
i just dont know what pvp talents gonna look like
since burrow a thing and they adding that thing thatr seperates healing and dmg on mael wep
I legit am gunna Korean swap to rdruid if I come back
Fuck playing dps in wow
Atleast if you're a non meta healer ppl can't not play with you cuz otherwise never queue
pls dont start these rdru apes in here gonna start dooming again
it is
idk why they cant give glad mount to everyone like with m+ mount
so boring
and unfair
Glyph will give you a carry
Monk might be my 2nd favorite class
not a good thursday for horde in WSG
addon just gives match summary after 🙂
and has a little scoreboard so you can see if you're top healing or how far ahead/behind you are
i just need solo shuffle RBGs in my life
this would be hell
i had a WW blindly run at target for 3 min straight
Dud he win
im so tilted
world is so cruel
how do people have fun doing arenas
every game I get cancer
idk i feel the same since the patch. 2 more SS wins and im back to 2400 and im not touching it rest of season
play a different game
Big gains brother
I cant play a different game
wow is the only good one
look at davider, he played another game for 2 seconds and is ranting about how its perfect
god ur addiction is frightening
why is it so ahrd to be good at one thing
everyone just plays arena a lot then starts winning and goes 2.4k gets glad mount wee woo fun
then im here stuck raging at 2k

I've been enjoying my nights alot more since I stopped logging into wow tbh
Didn't realize how bad of a time I was actually having until I stopped
It's fun when you were winning and mental breakdown when ur losing
No in between
playing wow arenas feels productive
getting better at something
even though its aw aste of time
self improvement
but I CANT SELF IMPROVE
ive been stuck since bfa
how do you learn to play
im jealous of these 3k ferals
they must have such fun lives
just chilling good at what they do
Ive been playing poe since 2018??

u can do it
don't encourage him
You came out of the closet In 2018?
theres a storm going on and i dont have no-break/generators, i think i might lose some CR on this shuffle
EHEEHEH
I want non rated shuffle where I can try to learn
buddy zechey u need 0 shuffle
non-rated shuffle is no pressure shuffle
you'll still tilt
not as bad
yes but they didnt make me yell or wanna break my headphones
have you considered creating an alt of the same toon/class you play
so you run rated shuffles and ignore everyone who speaks anything
you use it as a non-rated shuffle
when you think you are comfortable enough you go to your main and u nail them down
i think this could be an option for you
everyone will be tilted, there will b pressure on everyone, besides u, coz you are just chilling and practicing
@north grove any updates. I’m so invested in your progress lmao
I have an alt but it ended up going higher cr tan my main and its just stressful
i have no advice
i think
either you become a god at pvp somehow
or just like
get 1800 mog and spare yourself the suffering
wish I could settle with the 1.8k mog and elite title
I would probably drop like shit if I played now
i managed to get to 1850, got on a 2.1 lobby
i'm super laggy right now, there a storm going on and idk exactly why but my ping/ms is on the sky
i entered this shuffle with this ping and went 2-4, but i was super laggy, as if i was playing on OCE realms
im doing the open world pvp quests to get the mast gear
ill record/upload one or two videos of losing games when my internet gets better
sure but big gains for 1 day bro
yes
inflation is real
another thing i noticed is
u don't pop tree early
i think it should be one of your first globals that match enemy team opening with CDs
and more likely to get a second use before match ends
is inflation real enough that you dont have to be r1 for glad now
If you can sprint 400cr in a day to 1850, you can find another 250 in two weeks
not for 3s. but its easy to get 2400 in SS right now
case and point I did it and im literal trash
well you cnat get glad in ss
right ive never been glad
glad this season is rough
no one playign 3s so top teams are all around 2400
ok so same as it was a month ago
yea honestly SS the only one with inflated elo imo
we'll see. I might try next season. but with the M+ changes coming i may try M+ again for the first time since S1 shadowlands
idk im a shuffler so lmao
is there actually a surge of ppl pushing 3s now
id honestly be suprised
if alot of ppl were like "oh shit szn ending better try for glad"
No clue tbh
whatsup
I do not care whether PVP or PVE is harder. If you can hit the top 0.1% in one you can do it in the other. Skillsets are the same - positioning, communication, learning what each enemy can do and how your class can react. Fights are basically scripted at the high end for both.
wat thje fukj
did i just read
no flaming marvel
thats the most fried take ive ever read in my fucking life
cool didn't ask
cool didnt ask for ur both ur input either LOL
i mean they posted it on a public space
ur both clearly biased towards that person
so i could give less fucks abotu what u think
"biased"
clearly
its a terrible ass take
no matter how u look at it
get ur heads
out of ur ass
ty
move on
wow ur still talking about it incredible
@viscid remnant u see that take
I’m sure every mdi level player could r1 in pvp, but at that point those guys are so cracked you could put them into any game and they’d top the ladder
no
lol
LOL
absolutely not
meh
Could they do it immediately, absolutely not. But with how those guys grind to save 10 seconds… really ?
different skillsets
they are fundamentally different skillsets and the tweet is from someone with inexperience at the top level of each kind of play. fair? cool stop caring
mdi arena not even close lmfao
why make the stupid ass tweet then
everyone puts cooked or biased takes out there on wowtwit who cares lol
bro
I literally agreed with you what else do you want from me
ur fixating on this way too much
But generally agree, if you can swipe the card/pay 20m gold to get r1 in pve it can’t possibly be generally equiv to r1 glad
i mean r1 in arena is basically impossible rn
r1 in pve is just a matter of finding the keys
im of the opinion that if u haven't played at that level for both it's kinda hard to make such absolute statements comparing the two. most you can do is extrapolate upwards from your own level of play but might not be right either.
Idc if you agree or disagree with marvel
You will not slander her in my home

Get out
nobody is forcing u to type lake
discussion over cool
with u sure
no it's over
did you just learn of the word bias
yeah exactly why it isn't the place for it
I'm generally of the opinion that any competition is as hard as the competitors make it. So like, yeah sure arena is more complex and less predictable than m+, but competition is competition and you can only play against the field either way, so like
I don't think I even disagree with the take
its coming from the person who says were disgusting humans here
Not strongly enough to care at least
we're*
yeah because the discussion is over

I mean..?
ok man
this channel gets a little nasty sometimes
ye man
she never interacted here 1 time
but she can say that
and she can say r1 is ez for mdi players

cba with u people
Thats just not what the tweet says?!
hey sunshine hows it going
THYME GIVE HIM THE TIMEOUT DO IT DO IT
man this person thinks the channel is a horrible place I better randomly link her tweet just to shit on her take and fight everyone about it this will show her
timeout for what
bro i just made salmon open faced sammies so good
not a terrible place at all
not listening
salmon and cream cheese legendary duo
not a rule tho
it is
not listening to u being a werido
SPANK HIM
It's literally the rule #1
i mean it's rule 1 tbf lmao
Someone is def being a weirdo
what she about feral pvp link in DM
idk who tf marvel is
im an alcoholic without twitter not the place for me no thx
we gotta respect both mr fuji and both ms marvel
anyways
as i was saying
lil dill on the salmon
lil lemon on the bake
hit the grill for some sear
cream cheese on toast + egg
i like ms marvel on pve and i like mr fuji on pvp
busted a nut just looking at it
chives really smash
spice up any dish
feel free to thank when you use it for a hot date
ty sunshine you should have a cooking show I'd sub to it
no my personality is trash
@grand mesa im pumpin
huge heals man
keep owning bandido proud of you
don't
i can see how the comparison could be drawn as they are similar in a way
especially in terms of like defensive usage
hi i need help at the game / dragon flight quests
can u help me?
what seems to be the problem, friend
i have to kill 1 boss but i cant 😄
which boss
bro im noob i dont know how to fight 😄
i set talents and everything randomly
my class is druid
Cant fault homeboy
oops / seems im so noob anywhere 😄
definitely not
so true bestie
guardian would be the 2nd one i delete
who's the first
real
guess
us
👏
def feral

guys dm me pls / i need your help 😭
i would consider posting in #general too, there' like 17 people who pvp in wow and 4 of them are talking here. you might get more traction and help
can i get a country of origin and definition on that word
it dosent matter for me / i need something can attack good and dont die easy
Well I was just asking to give you tips relevant to what you are playing ofc
If you're a new player leveling I'd recommend swapping to guardian probably
You'll be tanky and have a lot of self healing
It'll just take a minute to kill the bigger enemies
thanks alot / i dm u
Ok
should i run vers corruption?
yes
now that's an evil statement
think it's 10% + key level. so a 25 u need atleast 35 vers or ur throwing
corruption era was the worst
it was terrible
worse than initial mage tower coming back guardian challenge?
yes
jfc
lmao kinda wish i was there for it
i think that it would've been fun if corruption items were reusable and people got to experiment
it was actually the biggest commitment to have a fully gemmed and corrupted set with ideal stats
idk alot of people look back at it fondly
@north grove @grand mesa
My turn
https://youtu.be/KFLLXvYwtMk
Idk what to do better rd 3/4, hunter traps are brutal
corrupted?
or corruptions
i thought the customization of corruptions was great even if they were op
was cool to have basically super enchants
most accurate statement ever posted in this channel
Watching it back, wildly apparent can improve positioning
that shit was fucking horrendous
corruption
designed entirely to maximize player time
10/10 fun after u get the gear
yeah but "when" was never certain
aight yeah that was fun
lmao
destro in bfa busted nuts
coiled u enjoy the 5 bolts into the back of ur skull lmao
all while being tanky as fuck
even after the vendor hit, it was terrible
people were starting fights more than they do here
DF gearing not bad
havent done newest tower thing much
but i think they realized that rng shit you needed to dedicate hours and hours to on multiple occasions drove people away
gearing should always be easy and straightfoward imo
drop leggos in raid 1 or 2 times per expac if you want to tease with super rare rng shit
Game is in a rly good spot to have alts rn imo
for pver?
Both
i agree for pvp, but for pver gearing alts could be better. like crafted gear is super good, but doing 50 16+s to upgrade it isn't so good
and ur still vault walled to get rlly good gear
I disagree fundamentally I think it's perfectly reasonable and good that you cant just make 418 gear on a new character that you literally never played
I have like 5h played at max lvl and I'm 392 ilvl on my priest
Game is in a great spot for alts
IMO
ok u can have that opinion but i dont see how that makes it good for alts at all really
majority of thre best gear in the game is also i nraid
You're almost immediately at normal raid ilvl with 4p bonus
but like was that not the case in previous xpacs with some of the catchup gear?like bfa and sl
i see wat ur saying, its super ez and low effort to get to a decent place, but 50 dunguns is just too many once u get going
You're also not at the mercy of RNG for a weapon for instance, you do 10 dungeons and you have a guaranteed 418 weapon, I think thats huge
In the past I dont think you got catchup within 25 ilvls of your main
Within a few hours of playtime
BOA zereth mortis gear was 226 in season 3 when mythic was 278, then the 246 was made BOA in season 4 whe mythic was 304.
rare items are fucked though
dope, but i gotta confess that i disliked your party/raid frame hahahah
also cool keybinds
They all hidden though idk ?
The raid frame seems Personal preference since lines up similar debuffs in same area
And just suppresses anything that I decided I don’t care about
ye i mean i think that kind of actionbars are cool
Ty
That's one of the UIs of all time
I wanna come back and smash keys s2 looking good @clear pulsar ?
I dont even have them on main so ig I feel like I can catch up to closer to my main than yo ucan to yours
Just dont raid

I think so, they're actually putting in work messing with m+ stuff so
I hope it's looking good
yea in terms of like getting up to speed i think ur right like its rlly fast this xpac, but its still a slog to get to like 420
as ever
Yeah basically your catch up isj ust much closer
Even the valor boxes were just m0 ilvl which would be 376 now
And they were still a grind to begin with
While the crafted stuff is 392
And 2h of forbidden reach you have 395 on every slot
Granted the trinket is absolute fucking dogwater

Dude
Idk if you've got it
It procs a pool of sand that gives mad haste
Sims pretty well for its ilvl
But the pool can proc like legit 30yd away from you
And it covers ground effects like lower kara carpets

nice I come back and pump resto keys maybe :3
._.
im ashamed
im getting some greally bad shuffles
i couldnt record 1 of'em but the other i could
will try to upload
what is the addon to keep track of played arena games
ReFlex
@broken junco give us a hot take of the day
Just because she's nice to you doesn't mean she likes you or is attracted to you

wrong
._.
Welcome back
someone farm conquest for my rdruid plz holy fuck
i cant play the game till someone gets this shit done
dont do it
MITCH JONES BACK ON THE WOW GRIND
fuji they need me
if i dont get glad somehow glyph is matchig is gunna call me boosted again

Feralnotpog
it popped!
hope u win
i hope u learn ur lesson
sup 

hey papi 
I said hot take Cog
I have the same talent as Joe Biden I make women uncomfortable whenever I walk into the room
Did I?


sounds like me though
Lmao
@high egret

u got this champ
same
this seas is rough
fucked up amount of people buying it lmao
yo hows s2 looking for pvp?
I want rmp to get nerfed too
poly should get a cd
what no lol
and precog on mages shouldnt be a thing
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why do pvp players
shake so much
wtf
at least precog has teached me to get faked less
Are they
I'm positive, are they?
Because those values aren’t comparing factoring in that we all had 10-15% CC reduction which is gone next season
So a lot of the new cc durations might not feel that much diff than currently
Stuff like blind which got hard nerfed sure
are they gonna nerf rdruids
tired of them in 3s
much rather face fw ret warr than rdruid ret warr

legendary take from zechey
this is why i like zechey
they just spread hots and nothing dies ever
always when I see a rdruid I know it will be an aids game
and it always is
trying out demo 👀
just go demo frost mage and win everything
so broken
I have minion name plates on, I can see tyrant casting
but my screen is full of aids
theyre off, I cant see tyrant
ok
Honestly that’s why soemtbing like plater is good
your WA helps too
His good looks too
What's your best % Puzzle on dragon?
0%
oh shit, nice grats!
Thx ya we killed it on Tuesday
im so tired of these demos and their 2348023480234802348023480234 pets
I cant fucking see SHIT
I cant focus
best thing is the shaman is fucking blue nameplate like his pets
so I dont know where the shaman is
Plater
theres an option in interface just disable pets/minions
Bro
then I cant see totems
skyfury pretty important to kill imo
and healing tide
but maybe I have to sacrifice it
plater
If the totems were important they would be a ret class feature
Zechey I would strongly recommend plater man. Or Atleast download advanced interact options there are more options to turn off specific classifications of nameplates
So you might be able to fiddle and exclude what u want
Like enemy minor and enemy minus. Guardians totems and pets all have their own specific cvar
Which isn’t reflected in the normal interface menu
maybe I have to
When I went back to stock nameplates a few weeks ago I had to go back to plater
Cause turning off just wild imps which I think is enemy minus, also turned off the nameplates for the sparks on razegath lmao
I have tidyplates
Tidyplates has custom unitID filtering
Why aren’t u fiddling with it lol
Or is it threatplates that has that also
@fair mirage
not sure
I know threat does idk if tidy does
But ya I have a profile I can share. Mes has a profile that’s even more similar to stock UI nameplates
Idk I use plater rn
That way u can just hide a bunch of shit u never want to see. Headache made an exhaustive list
Like hiding mirror images
And shit
Ya mirror has an ID and just takes the appearance of the mage
because the last thing I need is more screen clutter vs demo teams
Do u show only tyrant and put lord?
What’s also nice with plater is that out of the box u can resize pet/totem nameplates to be smaller so they’re not all the same matching width height of players and ur stuck trying to find the player in the mess lol
😫
how can I learn to play quick

ben, can you tell me how to beat ret demo rsham as jungle
Bro I straight up dont know anything about 3s
Im just a shuff junkie
Im like trying to climb, have no friends and just pugging through lfg... idk what comp to even look for tbh
used to the comp being random trash every round and yoloing
maybe I should shuffle spam as a healer too
If its for 2.4k any bracket
feels like fastest way to improve for sure
I didnt know anything and just grinded endless games to shake off the 10 year rust since cata
just the speed of lose, see something to improve
go next
being 30 seconds at a time between matches. Like for every 1 match you do as feral, could be doing 3 as resto
What's your obsession with this man
i am a big mike o tren fan
That's not even legendary Billy Herrington

Out damaged and out healed
Healers are cringe
true cog
Real manly men with strong vitality and a healthy body play tanks in pvp
Gigachad play bears only in pvp 🐻
girls wanna be with stadman
zechey wants to be him
lava lash bvuild ?
no
0 chance
think his biggest spell is CL
bro go look at his stream
na if u do 90k dps u def play lava lash
dude did 14m dmg more than everyone else combined x3
CL top player dmg spell
every game
or that strike
both top
SS?
hes doinbg some stream with blizzard employees
what was the comp
idk if this is live in game shit or not
cuz like crash 1st in dmg
SS
whats crach
does it stack
stacks per target u hit ye
oh wait
this is ptr
u dingus
u forgot to mention that
they played a demo/enh/fw match against hunter/mage/hpal and won in like 30 seconds lmao
yeah
nutty if goes live
wouldnt be surprised if enh insane next patch
cus MW gives 15% increase dmg
thank god
im back to 2400
im done with SS
now i can rest easy knowing i only moderately suck post nerf
also i went 3-3 against markers pres evoker in a double shaman lobby so ill take it
monstrous
I think I am 0-9 against markers since shadowlands
Guess at least I provide good content for his stream games are usually close lol
I miss wow gcd
I do noob
its not the same
most of them are cds or class gauge spells with recharge timers
no
gg
New Leader of the Pack gives you so much move speed
nah i play healer
noob
I am not a noob
Weak, take a lap
I got to level 60 then couldn't do it
FF GCD made me want to put a bullet through my skull
I've gotten used to it but it's pretty awful for the first couple expacs yea
why is playing healer weak
In the same way that Tom Brady kissing his son is worrisome

huh

how do those two equate

why is that worrisome
are fathers not allowed to show affection to their sons? is that the joke ?
I feel like you are missing a large piece of information 
I dont know sports things so probably
the picture he's referencing is definitely on the weird side
but i don't think tom brady is sus
what is going on
Type tom brady son in gifs
I couldnt find anything suggesting an inappropriate relationship between them
looks pog
Yumy
thanks
im a fiend for white rice
curried chicken thighs over brown rice with spinach and green beans
Can we get a transmog channel started?
yeah lemme ask powers that be
in pvp channel
no
get fucked
bro how do you do that
😂
how do you know when their is a question to respond to
no way you literally read this shit all day
no fucking way
i do, when i'm awake
Is there like a specific reason why? Feel like it’d be cool. But, who am i? Just curious.
it fits into off topic discussion really
and all xmog channels become circle jerks IMO
you post a mog, and get @'d
annoying
Feel like everyone in a circle jerk has a good time. No one left out 😂
then u seem like a dickhead if u never respond
Yeah all good i’m just messing
pvp is transmog channel hahah
😂
dont take anyone opinions in here on transmog seriously though cuz they all look shit
I was looking to be inspired 😅 new 70 Druid, being a terrible healer and gearing up 😩
Can’t seem for the life of me to get Druid healing down. 🤦🏻♂️ guy will be at 10% i’ll rejuv him 😂
ugly ass mfer in game
two different people saying why no xmog channel
💀
top G posts a pic with a flower in his hair and completely naked other than some big ass sword and is like "yea dude I'm so lit rn"
no, go read it if you care
druid is managed by people who failed chaperone tryouts for their kids in elementary school
it kinda cums down to, more chammel=bad
and 3/4 druid specs are in form
ChNnel bloat, thins community
and theres already some stupid azz useless chammels like general and offtopic
non visible xmog anyways
and calssic
general chat is a whole other planet
Bruh i heard the DH discord is horrible lmao.
general is lost people, unhinged people, guild recruitment, and unhinged people
so not having mog channel might seem dumb or too controlling
So far the cool class discords are here, lock, rogue, priest.
people here in allspecs who can backseat carry pve/pvp
rogue is good
is shadownerf still there
iirc thats his name
Haven’t saw him.
rog discord is annoying. they raged at me once for being offtopic cuz i was just talking about something else IN WOW
If general is more unhinged than us does that make us the nobility
Everyone just follows raz around and tags raz mainly though everytime something happens since raz was r1 like 2 weeks ago on 2 accounts
like their pvp channel is useless for not super meta spec
Yeah, rogue was my first char ever made in vanilla.
rog pvp chammel ius just ppl crying about how rog is bad
even when rog is insanely broken at all times
Yeah rogues imo have probably the highest ceiling. If you excel i don’t think any class can beat a person insanely good at rogue.
I usually beat mages and even after all these years i’m sub par
But in my defense i’ve always had rogue/lock/priest/war as main and constantly went back and forth.
I got my rogue fully geared and gemmed and haven’t played him in like a month now 🤦🏻♂️ fully geared my lock next then my priest then war then went fotm just to have fun and made a pally fast and fully geared him 😂
idk maybe both same cus class utility and ability to influence other moves and set ups is huge
Now i’m on the Druid and i’m horrible at it 😞
lotta rogues in low cr just tunnel vision dps
All*
but thats more common now cus kit being homogenized
bc/wrath is good pvp top watch for stupid insane shit
speaking of
wotlk druid nutty cieling
Most low CR rogues don’t understand that just because our dps or burst is good doesn’t mean we still aren’t mainly a CC person in arena.
We have to blind, sap, kick, stun to get setups. Sure we can worry about that a little less if we have a mage rogue or shammy.
thats because every class has basically same cc now
and when a class is meta and stupid strong
you can ignore that
like rets/warr
rn
most basic cc is possible to set up a big go and win
I talked about that to a guy not long ago, just how bad pvp is now compared to early wow. Way too many stuns, CC’s and absorbs now.
wotlk rogue/priest feral/priest is
insane
2 smaller eu streamers stream feral
in wotlk
rogues throw whole fucking kit at you
cant move
like a min
Yeah i remember. Made Marshall on my rogue in vanilla. Then made a 29 twink rogue and that was the most fun i had probably in the game. Especially just world pvp in TM
wotlk is way better than vanilla
meld wasnt even useful in classic
wotlk had the best racials imo
I liked wotlk but i feel like that’s when everything became too dumbed down. I always like competitive stuff. Like in vanilla only (high)warlord/(grand)marshal got the best pvp gear. Now it just feels like a participation trophy.
Ran into a Druid yesterday with 1800 rating that couldn’t keep himself alive longer than a minute. He was the target after first round every round and died almost instantly fully geared and gemmed
and in vanilla you just fucking abused systems for high rank
literally 90% of people who got that shit in vanilla were trash
they just played non stop
i mean
Yeah but for that era they were great. Or played alllllll day
i could say you didnt peel for him
thats the only way to get those ranks lol




