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Wdym
Just raidbots.com
Top gear
Sim it
Chillglobe is good
You can do same thing as raidbots but on QELive for healing
But resto has working dmg sims
i dont need gamajur i wanna know if it heal more than sometin elser,m but
ok WADF its making me add a character
i mean our playstyle doesn't change
we're just weaker
without germ
invigorate loses a ton of value too
cause we used to invig rejuv germ and bloom
now it'll bejust 2
Losing a full hot seems like a decently big change
they're so insistent on forcing nourish on us
u literally MUST take ivnograte now?
yeah
if u want photo
u do
i think my issue with this change is
invigorate is a pretty shitty spell
would be nice to be excited to swap invig for germ
oh i found it
it's bottom right a choice node
dwafd...
especially since you won't have 2 rejuves to invig now
feral has nothing like that
yeah
the only possible niche use i can think of that might be interesting. @clear pulsar u invigorate on someone in efflo and idk maybe just proc a fuck ton of verdancy and burst heal in addition to invig's healing
and wow i forgot about the node below inca

me and lonintar been saying for al ong time
the key to winning shuff on rdru
isd budding leafings
+verdangecy
lontar hates verdancy
it's nogard who loves it
lobtar likes
spring bolsom
bnut iof u run spring bolsom why not run vedancy
thast wat i don't get
if ur goal is to getr a lot of value out of effvloar
how can rampant be more value than vedngcy
in nogard's verdancy build u run spring blossoms ideally if u can but against klepto classes like arcane mage or evoker then u kinda have to run OG
i ran verdancy + OG with u cause ur a spaz that doesn't stay in efflo lol
yeah i understand that part, but what im saying is that i don't get why lobtar uses spring blossom without using vergancy
oh
i mean
he's playing the nourish OG build
@clear pulsar are u writing a forum post?
UR A TROLL
i started watching the video that LITERALLY U PINNED
and he talks about
how he runs a lot of spring blossom
when its ppl who will stay in it
that video is old lmao
that was 2 budding leaves and 2 lifebloom nerfs ago and before nourish got the accessory talents
wadff....
link
budding L got owned?
Just cant post yet
let me read it
i would mention that part of the reason why invigorate for germ feels so bad is because invigorate is a dogshit spell. if it was 15s to match CD of swiftmend or 20s-30s but swiftmend could extend the effect. would feel better
spell not used in pve or pvp
it just fries ur hots and ur mana currently to not even top
or swap invig with flourish lmao
then we're back to SL's flourish vs., germ
Yeah my feedback on Invigorate is that it's just generally annoying and mana consuming, and the only real angle for it is to force Lifeblooms thru Photosynthesis.
Invig needs to be reworked
They tried a few times in beta and then just stopped
All hots. Then LB rejuv germ 100%. Then 200%
Still Shit
does 'refreshing' lifebloom make it bloom?
Only in pandemic
i mean specifically with invigorate
Yes but
When you Invigorate
It's already in pandemic
I mean
I get what you'rea sking now
And no
Invigorate, Flourish/VI extension
Those things dont proc the bloom from refreshing
So yeah thats a good point
Doing max base directions healing in 4s
now thats goofy
Yeah so without improv rejuv hypothetically it’s 12s for a base rejuv. So whatever duration ur rejuv is whether it’s 1s left or 11s. It resets to 12s. Then makes it go 200% faster. So 4s. Any type of hot duration extension mechanic whether it’s VI swiftmend, flourish, nuturing dormanxy, and probably reactive resin. Immediately cancels hasted effect lol
So in beta I was doing really janky shit where I’d invig my hots. Let the haste roll for 3s. Then wait until they’re all 1s left and then swiftmend so they don’t all burn out and teammate isn’t completely hot naked
All for something that doesn’t even top
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yall is 4Pc real good in PvP or just meh?
Bear 4pc is kinda whatever
Damn I should have said Resto My bad
I meant to talk about Resto in that one on me haha
It’s good
usually a 1800 healer, and i swear solo shuffle makes me want to rip my hair out
going 5-1 one set and then 1-5 two sets straight because people just forget what cc is when they team with me
i mean i've been 1800-2100 since WoD so i guess inflation is a real pain then huh?
Shuffle is diff for sure
Especially down there in sub 1800 land
It’s actually weird that dps do no damage
like this warrior ran face first into spriest with no spell reflect up, no commanding nothing and got globaled behind a pillar
So mana and ooming is actually an issue
they do no damage or they do all the damage
like some gcd's people have all the hots on them and their health stays full and others i'm GCD locked to barely keep them alive and it feels awful
True. @edgy shale keeps me GCD locked
like i just played into pres/dev and they just rotated who was max ranking firebreath so all my hots are gone
and the boomy wasn't cloning anything
until he was playing against me and then he magically found it >.<
Huh
On raid frames
anywhere
Top right
is this a good solo shuffle build for resto? i keep getting 3-3 games and being stuck rating wise
Replace regrowth crit for ns talent or cult
watsa sdhould by my #1 lea
Does resto play nourish now ?
@edgy shale why is trevvy playing rdru
wadf?
tell me
what
i asked u qutin
show me the question
hj
@primal mantle @surreal heron https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6alSfzfVxVU&feature=youtu.be
In this guide I go over all of the necessary basics for setting up to heal on your Druid. I also go over some core arena concepts. I hope you enjoy!
maybe add this to the other pin
@grand mesa
idk man
u shoot 3 1 mby hit
gg
do you think the new New Talent: Deep Focus – ( When Moonfire, Rake, Rip, or Rejuvenation are active on a single target, their effects are increased 40%.) will be good in arenas?
Anyone have a good boomie RBG / Arena build?
depends where it is on tree and what u are playing and what u are facing
lot of ifs
¯_(ツ)_/¯
lol
how things go in life usually
if u play 3s and ur whole team gets cleaved it does nothing
if they tunnel 1 guy could be good
but its prob a 2s only talent
worth buying crimson gear and converting it to set for pvp or should I rather just get it from raid ?
cheers
@pallid coral u get 30% crit when u are full 424pvp gear as feral if you only have crit badge trinket + 4 set lol

yeah but you probably shouldn't ever be full 424 pvp gear
like don't get me wrong
feral has a lot of baseline crit
esp cause 4pc bonus and shit
i like haste gayming more cuz im jungle otp with lycara 3/3 in normal form u have just enough haste to have 0.1 second faster clone cast
over full mastery with primal infused
sure you do you homie
Siklon best
its like a slightly better eternal flux
but not good
Imagine downgrading from sinful flame to this

LMFAO
ok
they cookin
Is there even a good lightning themed leather set / mog? I know ToT plate is sick but leather had no lightning theme i thibk
uhhh idk the name but arent there like light blue feather-y shoulders
a lot of these are anchored on like
the staff
instead of the head of the polearm
ok
this enchant COULD be good
https://www.wowhead.com/ptr/dressing-room#fn8zz0zJ89c8oU8Ud8oS8VHL8mL8Up8rY8MW28TW8VH18TX8VH38TY8VJm8jV8VKR8mN8Uh8mA8UA8rZ8MXz8jz8VJD8jm8VKM8jo8VKb8jk8VKN8jR8VKe8yU8kXj8r28MXk8oW8Ut8js8VKl8ja8VKD8fn8M328fC8M4X8wV8met8wE8mlK8wf8mvY8wp8mEX87UvXY87cvXQ87VvYh808vXU808vXZ808vYa808vYk8084qg8MHX8zXM87k sinful flame looks TERRIBLE on dressing room
and i don't t hink it even looks that good in game
but
there's hope

classic wow rogue pvp dmg is actually insane
INTERESTING bug
why the fuck are you posting classic sub rogue gameplay
in a predominantly retail druid channel
on the bright side the gameplay is better then the editing
so we got that one going for us
also actually
that thumnail shows arena
this is all shitty bg content

Dude we need buffs boys
I’m not the greatest druid but I’ve been 2K in arena before and this is the worst it’s ever been to play an r druid
Especially shuffle where hots don’t really save idiots
About that
We’re losing germ next patch instead 🤣
Trading post is open on EU how is it
its pretty cool tbh
this month we get 1500 points total i think
can lock in a reward for later months
or buy now
multiple things pretty cool to have
filling the monthly "challenges" not that hard either
total of 1000 points and you get like 200 for getting 7500 or playing 20 rated arenas etc
and monthly reward for filling the bar too it seems
this mount on eu
It’s bad yeah
Rn it’s tree vs germ
Every breakdown I’ve seen even our multiple times nerfed budding leaves lifebloom was top heal
Hard to give up budding leaves especially when invig is a must take
Sounds fun tbh. A free battle pass
ye idk dont see much downsides
looks cool so far
They needed to add shit for casual side of wow. Everyone benefits too
¯_(ツ)_/¯
I like stuff like this
I haven’t played it yet
I’m going to try it
Maybe noob build is what I need
Gonna try clone spamming from 25 yards with astral as well above all else
And play adaptation over normal trinket ROFL
Jfc
🤣
It’s less work just leaving games after you load in
💀
@vestal citrus https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/druid/restoration
Oops
Elite solo shuffle comin right up
Link fucked
There we go
This is best I could come up with
Just take the loss of germ to the chin
Yeah it’s p bad

Invig is actually worse now cause u don’t even have germ for it. You’re just hasting LB and rejuv
I’ll keep playing rdruid. Surely I won’t notice not having germ
and no swarm
darkest timeline
dont think rdru playable without swarm
maybe if enemy has 0 purges
It’s not you need swarm
Even a 10% increase is a must pick with the purge protection
Only class I like is druid I soldier on
Def gonna investigate boomkin more 🤣
Maybe I’m doing it wrong david. Raid on druid and then pick an alt for pvp?
Every season idk
My concern is raid and m+ pretty happy with their changes cause they can keep pretty much same builds but gain shit
Ie. Draught
So idk if feedback wil be noticed until druid players disappear mid season lmao
Guys what do I have to do to convince you to play adaptation
I think I have the next big thing right here
It’s literally twice as much trinketing guys
if i dont see your stupid name
Lol
hear me out puzzle 1sec
I think rdru still fine in 2s. And I don’t give a shit about 3s. How can you when you play with pod. Just shuffle as boomkin 🤣
drop tree for reforestation
almost fixed
almost good talents
true or true
fuk
no VI
how is it not there
REEEE
nope this tree doesnt make sense
Without just getting rid of germ
id drop tree for reforestation
I spent time on it
but this is jsut the worst
Yeah I think u don’t throw away big tree with CDR for germ
¯_(ツ)_/¯
It’s too good
time to main 2s
We never had that in SL
was the talent tree that bad it needed a rework?
no it was fine before
I don't understand why they keep shuffling druid trees around every patch
It was change for the sake of change
who asked for this
this doesn't happen for any other class
but druid was among the best healers in pve in all content...
Were ok with spec trees. We just all didn’t like class tree
Yeah great nothing changes for them with all the shuffling
They keep their same builds
🤣
it's just so weird that only druid gets their trees reshuffled
rsham got a bunch of changes too
yeah rsham lost HPS probably
I’m probably writing a post on PTR. Whatever that means
yeah but they were literally ignored since the beginning of dragonflight.
they had what like 5 lines of patchnotes in total so far
I think the simplest fix without reworking trees is add a connection from VI to germ. Swap flourish with invig. Or make invig actually good
Gaining rating with my adaption convoke nourish clone build bois
It’s fucking working
They can’t handle it
It’s just too genius
Don’t need flourish and invig when you got this
@viscid remnant I swear this dude is if Pykan and pod had a kid
HAHAHAHAHAHAHH
I don’t know who those guys are but if they’re like me then they’re absolute gangsters of.
Course
@grand mesa axtin fistweaving fan
😡
Almost at work had to drop
Maybe I level monk
It’s already 60
Flop hopped off rdruid is practicing evoker
@viscid remnant level priest or monk
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Ahhhh
no
havent played it
Noticed game performance gets worse over time? 10.0.5 introduced a pretty nasty memory leak in the UI code. It doesn’t seem to be reclaiming memory correctly (garbage collect), especially in blizzards own frames. Your UI might suck up 2+ gigs of memory within 30 minutes
190
@stray sigil
Could explain the micro stutters and 0 fps Shit
You a new fister now? Subby boi
what do yall for vs RPS? Just die? Feels like they have -100% healing debuffs
nope didnt sub
Que?
shit 10.0.7 tree
WHY
What else can ya do 🤷♂️
Whats the shit next to flarity
More clarity proc chance
Claritt
That’s synergizes with nourish better ig
But u don’t have the points
I think the most interesting you can do @tepid spoke is invigorate inside an efflo and proc a ton of verdancy at once maybe for burst healing
apparently this can be related to corrupted edit mode file
delete it in saved variables
Infinite mana angle in raid
🐽
at this point why not just put nourish as the first talent
if they want druids to use it that badly
there are more tasks available than there are points in the cap
so you just pick which tasks you want to do
there are pet battle tasks if you want yes
Perfect. I can resume never having done a pet battle
guys do you know what that proc is showing in picture?
Natures vigil I think
That’s isn’t NV icon
If this is trufiGCD it shows combat toys and stuff too if it’s macroed in
What’s he saying
Circle is so trash
Maybe drop tree take verdancy and nourish and invigorate and hope that’s enough throughout healing to offset tree CD
Can u take germ if you drop tree
And take verdancy nourish invig
I think verdancy invig have synergy. It would actually burst heal the rdruid too even if they’re out of efflo lol
An entire lifeblooms worth of verdancy procs In 4s. And rdruid always get proc healed no matter what if it procs
The enchant doesn’t look bad
they need to make the wind more colorful
then it would be actually maybe good idk
Ez
That’ll do it
thats me doing skirmishes for weekly
Fu davidster


why
How’s DH gaming


In another discord I saw a feral rerolll saying boomie was insane cuz he 6-0d a 1600 shuffle as boomie
So obviously it's time
It does a lot of burst and dam tbf
New Talent: Deep Focus – When Moonfire, Rake, Rip, or Rejuvenation are active on a single target, their effects are increased 40%.
are the 1800 mogs class specific? or armor type specific?
Class specific
But at what cost

We lost germ
Natural Wisdom is now a baseline effect on Innervate for Restoration Druids. No longer increases mana regeneration by 5% and the additional Innervate’s effectiveness has been reduced to 50% (was 100%).
i am never
giving my innervate anyway
germ is gone?
oir what
Can’t really take it easily for pvp
What channel do you think ur in moron
HOMIE CHANNEL
is that the new pvp enchant?
i beat him in rankings tho
If you haven’t been flamed by torty ur not asking enough questions
so get fuk
One time I tried to point out a minor detail or correction to his icy veins guide. Who knew that my correction was one sentence further down than what I read in his guide. I still think about that. It went about as well as expected
worth comparing to what some of the other stuff is like as well
Is it like showing up behind the model for you?
With pigsticker
Or is that just a mobile thing
like this is what sinful flame looks like on dressing room

yeah it does on that wepaon in dressing room for some reason

its def not as good as i was hoping
when they said primal storm i was hoping it would be like i giant grey cloud
but
Yeah I was hoping for old MOP style stuff
Big obnoxious blue glow with lightning
But this is def better than s3 s4
LOL
Tranquility healing is now increased by 100% while in arena combat with 5 or less allied players.
Keeper of the Grove’s (PvP Talent) healing increase has been reduced to 20% additional healing (was 100%).
i guess this is a buff?
20% ig
dude the new talent tree is so sussy
i dont really see the reason why the keep changing it
🤷♂️ it is what it is
Talent tree adjustments I swear can be more impactful than a blue post that changes % here and there
draught is cool tho
i liked draught in sl
for dungeons
idk as a dungeon doer isnt it a good change overall
why
i wanna heal more
not do more damage
zzz
draught is literaly useless when u need to heal
¯_(ツ)_/¯
¯_(ツ)_/¯
revert resto changes and give feral draught instead 
Honestly feral should have draught imo
Idk if pve feral community or something hates it
if they made it a choice node with circle like resto, it would fix the cleave and let ferals have ST dmg at the same time
Yeah idk
All seems pointless
Even if they land on a talent tree layout everyone’s happy with
They just Chuck it out and rearrange next patch anyway
So
Just enjoy the ride lol
thats pretty true
idk the patch is atleast like 2-3 months away right
surely stuff could change
XD
omfggg
i missed draught of deep focus so much
and it turns out they gave it to fucking restos
wtf is a resto gonna do with it
Damage in keys
go into cat form apply some bleeds and increase their dots from 10dps to 15
Nothing in pvp. Maybe 2s Shit idk
probably 2s
bruhhhh
its fairly convenient to take
Yeah
thats clearly 20x more beneficial for ferals
Fully kitty 2s
imagine if the old potp was in the game btw
Yeah
potp + draught
100k moonfires
what was potp again
as a feral we gotta spec into moonkin form and get that ability that increases your range by 5 yards for cleave builds
blizz fucking our tree up so hard
like go take away DH dmg and self heals
wish they'd remove the ICD off thorns with all the self healing melee get now
internal cooldown. has 500ms one
so max damage is like 10 instances for 120k dmg. a warrior can just heal that back up
right
sighhhhhhh
too many classes have the ability to heal when they shouldnt
warriors demon hunters i think rogues
like unless your hybrid you shouldnt be healing like that
i wish i could fully spec in guardian feral resto and moonkin trees all pointsin each
id be so effing strong
my primary would be feral but my hp would be like 1 mil
i can kill you from a mile with lazers
and i can heal myself to oblivian
will say it is nice they're undoing years or work to fix class trees, instead of working on an a new system all expansion just to throw it away
sometimes when iam bored and chat is dead
What do you think about my talents for restoration druid pvp? any improvements I can make?
U resub?
¯_(ツ)_/¯
What is this for?
2s or 3s/shuffle
2s
Who’s your partner
I’d take bash for the hunter for sure
So you can setup traps for him inbetween pet stuns
I think you might be overkill on going down barkskin path. Could pick up surge to actually do damage. And personally I haven’t done 2s in a while but it I were I’d try nourish
You didn’t like?
thats all u face lol
wow I just noticed starsurged is instant and doesn't require special mana
I thought it was like balance where you need to build special mana and wait for proc
Yeah and can be cast in caster form
It’s a huge upgrade from SL
And honestly one of the best changes they made between expacs
What do you mean open yet?
there was maintence according to trevvy
Also trading post items are a little week this month. I think I just bank my shekels
Prolly to fix the exploit*

So 2 more hours or just under @viscid remnant
Not that it affects you cause you are quit
Right
Right???
🤣
cant resub when server is down
Oh the gold for game time is in game?
is there a reason why I can't use a setting on my conquest neck?
Like have to login to servers
Bug
Seeing it on twitter too
Welcome back
Well see
yeah, come to us 🙂
Don’t u have friends who will carry in keys
In eu
Idk I feel like
The only thing holding you to eu is you have more characters
For arena specifically you got more options here to play
All conquest gear seems to be bugged since last patch. Can’t add sockets to anything
no need schizo hours to q up
But do u got buddies?
50/50
On eu that’ll play
The trading post had a exploit where you could but xmog then refund it but keep xmog
I mean I can’t say I see everything but from Atleast druid discord all I saw was a lot of waiting for EP
Yeah tough call. I think if you got buddies eu just makes sense. More normal hours no lag more toons
Conquest cap + forge on week 3 soon you won’t even notice you were gone anyway
doesnt matter
feji ditches
taxes only gets off work at like midnight my time
weekend gaming
What matters is what makes most sense to David tbh. Especially if he hears back from job and he’s got it no shot he can even play NA anyway
But if he’s got no one to play with on EU then it’s worth being scuffed NA weekend schedule
Lol
I don’t think feji ditches tho?
dodger
Does he dodge?
yeah they obviously just don't want us to have germ and want to make us take invig? but now we only have one rejuv and one bloom on to invig anyways so its even worse than it was
Yup
Think we just take the L and see how it feels
Every build that tries to snag germ seems worse than just saying fuck it
?
i dont see whats bad about this?
nice tree
you need tree
why?
tree is arguably one of the best healing cds in the game
And has obv synergy with nourish
honestly with nourish i dont think tree is gonna be missed much
I just saw the new tree, it doesn't make any fucking sense, what's the point of forcing to drop Germ?
My God, no one has asked for these changes, stop messing with the tree, it's getting more and more fucked up every time.
tree helps nourish a lot
matty you kinda smoked krek
again, you really can't drop tree
duelist wnchant out?
tree is infinitely better than having germ
out or not


I’d rather trade germ for invig than tree for invig
Problem is invig is trash
If they reworked it some this would all feel infinitely better
Or like a “ok I don’t love this but it’s ok”
invig is mediocre burst healing to lose your hots haha
cd doesn't even line up with SM either
A minor improvement would be to change its CD to 15s
yeah
So you can Atleast pair invig with SM
What id love is if swiftmend extended the effect 🤣
dont play invig
Instead of cancelling
Then u can make it 30s or something and it would feel like a good button
thought process is basically this:
you need all LB talents
you need tree
you need swarm
so what options does that leave you?
You could play like before 10.0.5 and play no nourish or verdancy
no budding leaves isn't an option even with a nerf
you need budding leaves
no budding leaves
meh
and circle is binned
imagine saying meh to budding leaves
circle is better than invig
xdddddd
Lifebloom is still your top healing despite all the nerfs
Like I said there isn’t a good build that accommodates germ without losing too much. We just take the L or hope they change it 🤣. Maybe they rework invig or add a connection straight from VI to germ
I mean they changed the balance tree in 10.0.5 at least once or twice. No reason why they couldn't change things with resto as well.
But seriously - WHY are they making these changes. These guys never communicate basic stuff like this.
Only thing that makes sense is that this is an intended nerf
Cause I don’t think raid m+ or pvp we’re complaining about spec tree. There were sensible builds for each
Multiple options too and choices
they were obviously targetted nerfs
trading post already disabled ?
to prevent strong talent combos
Maybe I just suck - but I didn't feel like our talents were very strong
Our talent combos were very strong
Even if I just PvE healed from range - I almost always lost the mana battle no matter what build I ran.
Really strong feedback loop of stuff working with each other well
That’s why we keep copping nerfs in all 3 end games
🤣
Yes
If we didn’t catch all these nerfs we’d be highest hps and it’s not close
Maybe evoker
Classic na
good we like rdrus taking Ls
The intrusive thoughts are winning
i will not lose germ
for tree
no shot in life
rdru without germ in pvp is so shit
is this good
guise?
r we good guise
stop the cry
u are mid pack
overall and boss damage
who looks at heroic 99th percentile
only pvp peanut brain trols
I mean you adjust whatever difficulty percentile and just keep clicking until you get a set of bars that support your argument. Then you snapshot then go to twitter
or u have 0 clue of how logs work
and post it anyway
Did they fix that?
theres 25 specs
u are the 16th better spec
thats pretty midpack to me
lower midpack
I did it yesterday, Just have to pick up the vault quest first from your first vault char

Packwatch
thats more than mid
overall is such a piss thing to look at
its not piss
why
lol
theres 1 st boss
and its the third one
really irelevant
True
I did but I didn't get progress from killing world boss on an alt

and may have talent reworks
wrong
they hate feral
they reworked both our trees
like 4 times now
and we have the same issues
everytime
I’m losing my mind right now
what happened old man
why taxes
must be old life crisis
tru or tru
twinkle got a rogue like i did yesterday
doesnt press blind or kidney
OMEGALUL
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????
why though
is it actualyl cuz of the trading post ?
2 hr from going to sleep
what was the point
of yesterdays maintenance
if they have to redo one
fukin dogs
the trading post
is such dogshit
this game full of fuckin nerds
just let me play man
liderally 6hr maintence
theres no way its just the post no ?
na matt
they do all the work on your servers then they copy paste for EU
rich company
@tepid spoke cum


