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edgy shale
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useless as ECPXTED

clear pulsar
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Wdym

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Top gear

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Sim it

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Chillglobe is good

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You can do same thing as raidbots but on QELive for healing

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But resto has working dmg sims

edgy shale
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i dont need gamajur i wanna know if it heal more than sometin elser,m but

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ok WADF its making me add a character

grand mesa
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i mean our playstyle doesn't change

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we're just weaker

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without germ

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invigorate loses a ton of value too

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cause we used to invig rejuv germ and bloom

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now it'll bejust 2

wooden basalt
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Losing a full hot seems like a decently big change

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they're so insistent on forcing nourish on us

edgy shale
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u literally MUST take ivnograte now?

grand mesa
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yeah

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if u want photo

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u do

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i think my issue with this change is

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invigorate is a pretty shitty spell

edgy shale
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im looking at the druid tree right now and i literally can't find invognate

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tf?

grand mesa
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would be nice to be excited to swap invig for germ

edgy shale
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oh i found it

grand mesa
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it's bottom right a choice node

edgy shale
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wow its rlly on the bottom?

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is it even that powerful of an effect?

grand mesa
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no

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it's a talent that's not used in M+ raid or pvp

edgy shale
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dwafd...

wooden basalt
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especially since you won't have 2 rejuves to invig now

edgy shale
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feral has nothing like that

grand mesa
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yeah

edgy shale
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well thats not compltely true

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unbridled swarm is p shit

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but meh

grand mesa
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the only possible niche use i can think of that might be interesting. @clear pulsar u invigorate on someone in efflo and idk maybe just proc a fuck ton of verdancy and burst heal in addition to invig's healing

edgy shale
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and wow i forgot about the node below inca

grand mesa
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but i'd rather have germ

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lmao

edgy shale
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me and lonintar been saying for al ong time

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the key to winning shuff on rdru

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isd budding leafings

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+verdangecy

grand mesa
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lontar hates verdancy

edgy shale
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i meant

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spring blossom

grand mesa
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it's nogard who loves it

edgy shale
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lobtar likes

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spring bolsom

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bnut iof u run spring bolsom why not run vedancy

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thast wat i don't get

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if ur goal is to getr a lot of value out of effvloar

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how can rampant be more value than vedngcy

grand mesa
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it's not rampant vs verdancy

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it's OG vs. spring blossoms

edgy shale
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i know thats the choice node

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orw ait wdym

grand mesa
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in nogard's verdancy build u run spring blossoms ideally if u can but against klepto classes like arcane mage or evoker then u kinda have to run OG

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i ran verdancy + OG with u cause ur a spaz that doesn't stay in efflo lol

edgy shale
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yeah i understand that part, but what im saying is that i don't get why lobtar uses spring blossom without using vergancy

grand mesa
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oh

edgy shale
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cuz if ur tryting to get ppl to stay in ur shit

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u might as well vegenacy

grand mesa
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i mean

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he's playing the nourish OG build

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@clear pulsar are u writing a forum post?

edgy shale
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UR A TROLL

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i started watching the video that LITERALLY U PINNED

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and he talks about

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how he runs a lot of spring blossom

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when its ppl who will stay in it

grand mesa
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that video is old lmao

edgy shale
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1 month

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wadf?

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tahst not old

grand mesa
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that was 2 budding leaves and 2 lifebloom nerfs ago and before nourish got the accessory talents

edgy shale
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wadff....

clear pulsar
grand mesa
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link

edgy shale
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budding L got owned?

clear pulsar
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Just cant post yet

grand mesa
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let me read it

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i would mention that part of the reason why invigorate for germ feels so bad is because invigorate is a dogshit spell. if it was 15s to match CD of swiftmend or 20s-30s but swiftmend could extend the effect. would feel better

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spell not used in pve or pvp

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it just fries ur hots and ur mana currently to not even top

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or swap invig with flourish lmao

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then we're back to SL's flourish vs., germ

clear pulsar
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Yeah my feedback on Invigorate is that it's just generally annoying and mana consuming, and the only real angle for it is to force Lifeblooms thru Photosynthesis.

grand mesa
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Invig needs to be reworked

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They tried a few times in beta and then just stopped

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All hots. Then LB rejuv germ 100%. Then 200%

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Still Shit

edgy shale
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does 'refreshing' lifebloom make it bloom?

grand mesa
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Only in pandemic

edgy shale
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i mean specifically with invigorate

clear pulsar
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Yes but

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When you Invigorate

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It's already in pandemic

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I mean

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I get what you'rea sking now

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And no

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Invigorate, Flourish/VI extension

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Those things dont proc the bloom from refreshing

grand mesa
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What it’s doing is putting it to max base duration

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Then squishing it back down to 4s

clear pulsar
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So yeah thats a good point

grand mesa
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Doing max base directions healing in 4s

clear pulsar
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You're actually giving up a Bloom

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For more chances to Bloom

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Ecks dee?

edgy shale
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now thats goofy

grand mesa
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Yeah so without improv rejuv hypothetically it’s 12s for a base rejuv. So whatever duration ur rejuv is whether it’s 1s left or 11s. It resets to 12s. Then makes it go 200% faster. So 4s. Any type of hot duration extension mechanic whether it’s VI swiftmend, flourish, nuturing dormanxy, and probably reactive resin. Immediately cancels hasted effect lol

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So in beta I was doing really janky shit where I’d invig my hots. Let the haste roll for 3s. Then wait until they’re all 1s left and then swiftmend so they don’t all burn out and teammate isn’t completely hot naked

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All for something that doesn’t even top

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🤣🤣🤣🤣

limber whale
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Yall is 4Pc real good in PvP or just meh?

grand mesa
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Bear 4pc is kinda whatever

limber whale
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Damn I should have said Resto My bad

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I meant to talk about Resto in that one on me haha

grand mesa
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It’s good

nocturne burrow
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usually a 1800 healer, and i swear solo shuffle makes me want to rip my hair out

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going 5-1 one set and then 1-5 two sets straight because people just forget what cc is when they team with me

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i mean i've been 1800-2100 since WoD so i guess inflation is a real pain then huh?

grand mesa
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Shuffle is diff for sure

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Especially down there in sub 1800 land

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It’s actually weird that dps do no damage

nocturne burrow
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like this warrior ran face first into spriest with no spell reflect up, no commanding nothing and got globaled behind a pillar

grand mesa
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So mana and ooming is actually an issue

nocturne burrow
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they do no damage or they do all the damage

nocturne burrow
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like some gcd's people have all the hots on them and their health stays full and others i'm GCD locked to barely keep them alive and it feels awful

grand mesa
nocturne burrow
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like i just played into pres/dev and they just rotated who was max ranking firebreath so all my hots are gone

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and the boomy wasn't cloning anything

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until he was playing against me and then he magically found it >.<

edgy shale
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wats good way to see hots

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on gakrda

grand mesa
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Huh

edgy shale
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HOTS

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how daf i see them puzzle

grand mesa
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On raid frames

edgy shale
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anywhere

grand mesa
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Top right

cerulean pilot
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is this a good solo shuffle build for resto? i keep getting 3-3 games and being stuck rating wise

grand mesa
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Replace regrowth crit for ns talent or cult

edgy shale
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watsa sdhould by my #1 lea

rigid basin
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Does resto play nourish now ?

edgy shale
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i been sdaying that

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wtf enchant am i supposed to used

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hi davider

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for uhh resto

viscid remnant
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@edgy shale why is trevvy playing rdru

edgy shale
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wadf?

viscid remnant
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what

edgy shale
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i asked u qutin

viscid remnant
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show me the question

edgy shale
viscid remnant
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for what

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idiot

edgy shale
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vpper

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resot

viscid remnant
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maybe add this to the other pin

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@grand mesa

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idk man

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u shoot 3 1 mby hit

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gg

halcyon summit
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do you think the new New Talent: Deep Focus – ( When Moonfire, Rake, Rip, or Rejuvenation are active on a single target, their effects are increased 40%.) will be good in arenas?

celest torrent
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Anyone have a good boomie RBG / Arena build?

viscid remnant
halcyon summit
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lot of ifs

viscid remnant
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

halcyon summit
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lol

viscid remnant
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how things go in life usually

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if u play 3s and ur whole team gets cleaved it does nothing

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if they tunnel 1 guy could be good

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but its prob a 2s only talent

tardy hare
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Let me take a look in the sphere

viscid remnant
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mf expects a concrete answer

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talent doesnt even exist yet in game

untold vale
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worth buying crimson gear and converting it to set for pvp or should I rather just get it from raid ?

tardy hare
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raid gear doesnt upgrade to pvp ilvl

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converted crimson gear does

untold vale
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cheers

unborn hedge
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@pallid coral u get 30% crit when u are full 424pvp gear as feral if you only have crit badge trinket + 4 set lol

viscid remnant
pallid coral
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like don't get me wrong

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feral has a lot of baseline crit

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esp cause 4pc bonus and shit

unborn hedge
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i like haste gayming more cuz im jungle otp with lycara 3/3 in normal form u have just enough haste to have 0.1 second faster clone cast

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over full mastery with primal infused

pallid coral
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sure you do you homie

viscid remnant
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running clone in 2k23

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jajaja

unborn hedge
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Siklon best

pallid coral
viscid remnant
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that looks

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so dogshit

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hahaha

pallid coral
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this looks

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OKAY

viscid remnant
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its like a slightly better eternal flux

pallid coral
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but not good

viscid remnant
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well a lot better eternal flux

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but same vibe

unborn hedge
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Imagine downgrading from sinful flame to this

pallid coral
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looks ok on some weapons

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garbage on others

pallid coral
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LMFAO

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wait

viscid remnant
pallid coral
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well

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THATS bugged

viscid remnant
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they cookin

unborn hedge
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Is there even a good lightning themed leather set / mog? I know ToT plate is sick but leather had no lightning theme i thibk

viscid remnant
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uhhh idk the name but arent there like light blue feather-y shoulders

pallid coral
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a lot of these are anchored on like

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the staff

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instead of the head of the polearm

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ok

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this enchant COULD be good

pallid coral
# unborn hedge Imagine downgrading from sinful flame to this
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and i don't t hink it even looks that good in game

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but

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there's hope

analog verge
pallid coral
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INTERESTING bug

pallid coral
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in a predominantly retail druid channel

viscid remnant
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idk

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mod ping worthy or not

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this guy needs to get booted

pallid coral
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its not even good gameplay

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thats even more insulting

tropic schooner
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so we got that one going for us

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also actually

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that thumnail shows arena

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this is all shitty bg content

smoky hamlet
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Dude we need buffs boys

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I’m not the greatest druid but I’ve been 2K in arena before and this is the worst it’s ever been to play an r druid

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Especially shuffle where hots don’t really save idiots

grand mesa
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We’re losing germ next patch instead 🤣

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Trading post is open on EU how is it

tardy hare
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this month we get 1500 points total i think

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can lock in a reward for later months

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or buy now

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multiple things pretty cool to have

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filling the monthly "challenges" not that hard either

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total of 1000 points and you get like 200 for getting 7500 or playing 20 rated arenas etc

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and monthly reward for filling the bar too it seems

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this mount on eu

grand mesa
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It’s bad yeah

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Rn it’s tree vs germ

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Every breakdown I’ve seen even our multiple times nerfed budding leaves lifebloom was top heal

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Hard to give up budding leaves especially when invig is a must take

grand mesa
tardy hare
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looks cool so far

grand mesa
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They needed to add shit for casual side of wow. Everyone benefits too

tardy hare
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

grand mesa
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I like stuff like this

smoky hamlet
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I’m just going full noob and trying convoke with nourish build

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Hail Mary bois

viscid remnant
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ofc u are losing

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if u play dogshit build

smoky hamlet
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I haven’t played it yet

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I’m going to try it

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Maybe noob build is what I need

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Gonna try clone spamming from 25 yards with astral as well above all else

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And play adaptation over normal trinket ROFL

grand mesa
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Jfc

smoky hamlet
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🤣

grand mesa
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It’s less work just leaving games after you load in

viscid remnant
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💀

smoky hamlet
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Dude it’s the next great build ok

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don’t tell me what I can’t do !!

grand mesa
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Oops

smoky hamlet
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Elite solo shuffle comin right up

grand mesa
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Link fucked

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There we go

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This is best I could come up with

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Just take the loss of germ to the chin

viscid remnant
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DED CLASS

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gg

grand mesa
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Yeah it’s p bad

smoky hamlet
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Not enough nourishment

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Not enough convoke

grand mesa
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David germ for invig?

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Fair trade?

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🤣

viscid remnant
grand mesa
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Invig is actually worse now cause u don’t even have germ for it. You’re just hasting LB and rejuv

viscid remnant
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time to load up the mw

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or what

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man iam so bored of poe actually

grand mesa
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I’ll keep playing rdruid. Surely I won’t notice not having germ

viscid remnant
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god thats so awful

grand mesa
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1/2 budding

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Ahhhhhh

viscid remnant
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and no swarm

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darkest timeline

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dont think rdru playable without swarm

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maybe if enemy has 0 purges

grand mesa
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It’s not you need swarm

viscid remnant
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alrdy cooking up mw talents

grand mesa
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Even a 10% increase is a must pick with the purge protection

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Only class I like is druid I soldier on

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Def gonna investigate boomkin more 🤣

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Maybe I’m doing it wrong david. Raid on druid and then pick an alt for pvp?

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Every season idk

viscid remnant
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idk i wouldnt panic just yet if u can play boomy too

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surely stuff will change

grand mesa
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My concern is raid and m+ pretty happy with their changes cause they can keep pretty much same builds but gain shit

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Ie. Draught

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So idk if feedback wil be noticed until druid players disappear mid season lmao

smoky hamlet
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Guys what do I have to do to convince you to play adaptation

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I think I have the next big thing right here

viscid remnant
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stop typing

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maybe ill think about it

smoky hamlet
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It’s literally twice as much trinketing guys

viscid remnant
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if i dont see your stupid name

smoky hamlet
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Lol

viscid remnant
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hear me out puzzle 1sec

grand mesa
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I think rdru still fine in 2s. And I don’t give a shit about 3s. How can you when you play with pod. Just shuffle as boomkin 🤣

viscid remnant
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drop tree for reforestation

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almost fixed

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almost good talents

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true or true

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fuk

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no VI

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how is it not there

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REEEE

grand mesa
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LOL

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There’s no good combination that feels good or complete

viscid remnant
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nope this tree doesnt make sense

grand mesa
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Without just getting rid of germ

viscid remnant
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id drop tree for reforestation

grand mesa
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I spent time on it

viscid remnant
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but this is jsut the worst

grand mesa
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Every attempt to keep germ sensibly

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Is just worse than prior attempt

viscid remnant
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lost big tree for stupid invig

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what a throw man

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binned

grand mesa
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Yeah I think u don’t throw away big tree with CDR for germ

viscid remnant
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

grand mesa
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It’s too good

viscid remnant
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time to main 2s

grand mesa
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2s might be interesting tbh

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Cause u have draught with VI

viscid remnant
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draught and swarm split

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for pump

grand mesa
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We never had that in SL

proven bison
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was the talent tree that bad it needed a rework?

grand mesa
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no it was fine before

proven bison
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I don't understand why they keep shuffling druid trees around every patch

grand mesa
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It was change for the sake of change

viscid remnant
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who asked for this

proven bison
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this doesn't happen for any other class

viscid remnant
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pver piglets

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fuk pvers

grand mesa
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All 3 end games were happy with their spec trees

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Raid m+ and pvp

proven bison
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but druid was among the best healers in pve in all content...

grand mesa
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Were ok with spec trees. We just all didn’t like class tree

grand mesa
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They keep their same builds

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🤣

proven bison
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it's just so weird that only druid gets their trees reshuffled

grand mesa
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Did u see David

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Rsham lost swirling currents

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That to me seems also omega traj

viscid remnant
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yeah rsham lost HPS probably

grand mesa
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I’m probably writing a post on PTR. Whatever that means

viscid remnant
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rsham tree up on the same shit

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looks new

proven bison
grand mesa
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I think the simplest fix without reworking trees is add a connection from VI to germ. Swap flourish with invig. Or make invig actually good

smoky hamlet
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Gaining rating with my adaption convoke nourish clone build bois

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It’s fucking working

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They can’t handle it

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It’s just too genius

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Don’t need flourish and invig when you got this

grand mesa
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@viscid remnant I swear this dude is if Pykan and pod had a kid

viscid remnant
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHH

smoky hamlet
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I don’t know who those guys are but if they’re like me then they’re absolute gangsters of.

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Course

viscid remnant
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@grand mesa axtin fistweaving fan

grand mesa
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😡

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Almost at work had to drop

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Maybe I level monk

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It’s already 60

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Flop hopped off rdruid is practicing evoker

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@viscid remnant level priest or monk

viscid remnant
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

grand mesa
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Ahhhh

tropic schooner
grand mesa
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Ent are u blasting now with disc changes

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Haven’t heard from you in a while

tropic schooner
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havent played it

grand mesa
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@stray sigil

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Could explain the micro stutters and 0 fps Shit

hollow condor
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Multi dollar company

hollow condor
thick minnow
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what do yall for vs RPS? Just die? Feels like they have -100% healing debuffs

viscid remnant
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nope didnt sub

grand mesa
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Good for u

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All is lost in 10.0.7

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🤣

tepid spoke
tepid spoke
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Is fhis shit

viscid remnant
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shit 10.0.7 tree

tepid spoke
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WHY

viscid remnant
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unfiorch

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its sobad

grand mesa
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Best I came up with lol

viscid remnant
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no germ pepekarp

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darkest timeline

grand mesa
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What else can ya do 🤷‍♂️

tepid spoke
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Whats the shit next to flarity

grand mesa
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More clarity proc chance

tepid spoke
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Claritt

viscid remnant
grand mesa
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That’s synergizes with nourish better ig

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But u don’t have the points

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I think the most interesting you can do @tepid spoke is invigorate inside an efflo and proc a ton of verdancy at once maybe for burst healing

pallid coral
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delete it in saved variables

grand mesa
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@stray sigil

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Yeah o personally haven’t been having the issue but fuji has

tepid spoke
viscid remnant
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🐽

thick minnow
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at this point why not just put nourish as the first talent

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if they want druids to use it that badly

grand mesa
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🐽

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@pallid coral does trading post have pet battle stuff you have to do

pallid coral
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there are more tasks available than there are points in the cap

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so you just pick which tasks you want to do

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there are pet battle tasks if you want yes

grand mesa
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Perfect. I can resume never having done a pet battle

river remnant
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guys do you know what that proc is showing in picture?

safe heart
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Natures vigil I think

grand mesa
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That’s isn’t NV icon

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If this is trufiGCD it shows combat toys and stuff too if it’s macroed in

viscid remnant
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pojke looking at rdru talents

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probably coping too

grand mesa
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What’s he saying

viscid remnant
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idk im not listening

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muted it

grand mesa
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I’m in OR can’t listen

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UNMUTE AHHHH

viscid remnant
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circle andy

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face gona root him or what

grand mesa
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Circle is so trash

viscid remnant
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idk hes just reacting to it and saying

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its weird weird

grand mesa
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Maybe drop tree take verdancy and nourish and invigorate and hope that’s enough throughout healing to offset tree CD

viscid remnant
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i said this and you coped

grand mesa
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Can u take germ if you drop tree

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And take verdancy nourish invig

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I think verdancy invig have synergy. It would actually burst heal the rdruid too even if they’re out of efflo lol

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An entire lifeblooms worth of verdancy procs In 4s. And rdruid always get proc healed no matter what if it procs

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The enchant doesn’t look bad

viscid remnant
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they need to make the wind more colorful

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then it would be actually maybe good idk

grand mesa
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More glowy imo

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Less discrete strands of color

tardy hare
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guys

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ive done it

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my first 0-6

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pog!

safe heart
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Ez

tardy hare
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assa/arms/uh dk

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vs

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warlock

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: )

grand mesa
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That’ll do it

viscid remnant
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first machtig feed

tardy hare
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i just want my 12 wins man

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fml

half vigil
ember dock
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Fu davidster

viscid remnant
grand mesa
ember dock
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Jk ily all

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Even tho i quit resto gaming

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Im now dh pvp gaming

viscid remnant
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why

ember dock
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I suck

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I wanted my druid 1800 mog but i suck hard

viscid remnant
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hmmm

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just get machtig to boost u

grand mesa
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How’s DH gaming

tardy hare
viscid remnant
grand mesa
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I am boomkin

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I am chicken

safe heart
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In another discord I saw a feral rerolll saying boomie was insane cuz he 6-0d a 1600 shuffle as boomie

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So obviously it's time

grand mesa
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It does a lot of burst and dam tbf

safe heart
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So does every other class

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Except feral obv

tepid spoke
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New Talent: Deep Focus – When Moonfire, Rake, Rip, or Rejuvenation are active on a single target, their effects are increased 40%.

exotic wolf
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are the 1800 mogs class specific? or armor type specific?

tepid spoke
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DAMN

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zimbita did it

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LOL

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@compact pier nice job

grand mesa
tepid spoke
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Natural Wisdom is now a baseline effect on Innervate for Restoration Druids. No longer increases mana regeneration by 5% and the additional Innervate’s effectiveness has been reduced to 50% (was 100%).

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i am never

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giving my innervate anyway

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germ is gone?

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oir what

grand mesa
#

Can’t really take it easily for pvp

tepid spoke
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ah

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fuck pvp

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who cares

grand mesa
#

What channel do you think ur in moron

tepid spoke
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Power of the Archdruid is now on a choice node with Undergrowth.

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gg

tepid spoke
grand mesa
#

Ehhhh

tepid spoke
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imagine puzzle

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just imagine me going to rant in #resto

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that chanel is ratland

grand mesa
#

Torty would love u

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Wdym

tepid spoke
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torty hates me

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rofl

exotic wolf
tepid spoke
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i beat him in rankings tho

grand mesa
#

If you haven’t been flamed by torty ur not asking enough questions

tepid spoke
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so get fuk

pallid coral
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that screenshot does it a LITTLE bit dirty

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but still

grand mesa
#

One time I tried to point out a minor detail or correction to his icy veins guide. Who knew that my correction was one sentence further down than what I read in his guide. I still think about that. It went about as well as expected

tepid spoke
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how long more

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on maintenance?

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idk na times

pallid coral
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worth comparing to what some of the other stuff is like as well

grand mesa
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Is it like showing up behind the model for you?

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With pigsticker

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Or is that just a mobile thing

viscid remnant
#

Ur pig is showing

pallid coral
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like this is what sinful flame looks like on dressing room

viscid remnant
pallid coral
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its def not as good as i was hoping

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when they said primal storm i was hoping it would be like i giant grey cloud

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but

grand mesa
#

Yeah I was hoping for old MOP style stuff

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Big obnoxious blue glow with lightning

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But this is def better than s3 s4

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LOL

tepid spoke
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Tranquility healing is now increased by 100% while in arena combat with 5 or less allied players.
Keeper of the Grove’s (PvP Talent) healing increase has been reduced to 20% additional healing (was 100%).

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i guess this is a buff?

grand mesa
#

20% ig

tepid spoke
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dude the new talent tree is so sussy

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i dont really see the reason why the keep changing it

grand mesa
#

🤷‍♂️ it is what it is

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Talent tree adjustments I swear can be more impactful than a blue post that changes % here and there

tepid spoke
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forced to take circle or draught

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for the dungers

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very sus

viscid remnant
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draught is cool tho

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i liked draught in sl

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for dungeons

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idk as a dungeon doer isnt it a good change overall

tepid spoke
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why

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i wanna heal more

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not do more damage

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zzz

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draught is literaly useless when u need to heal

viscid remnant
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

grand mesa
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

urban cliff
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revert resto changes and give feral draught instead SavageRoar

grand mesa
#

Honestly feral should have draught imo

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Idk if pve feral community or something hates it

urban cliff
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if they made it a choice node with circle like resto, it would fix the cleave and let ferals have ST dmg at the same time

grand mesa
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Yeah idk

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All seems pointless

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Even if they land on a talent tree layout everyone’s happy with

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They just Chuck it out and rearrange next patch anyway

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So

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Just enjoy the ride lol

urban cliff
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thats pretty true

viscid remnant
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idk the patch is atleast like 2-3 months away right

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surely stuff could change

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XD

dark vigil
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omfggg

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i missed draught of deep focus so much

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and it turns out they gave it to fucking restos

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wtf is a resto gonna do with it

grand mesa
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Damage in keys

dark vigil
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go into cat form apply some bleeds and increase their dots from 10dps to 15

grand mesa
#

Nothing in pvp. Maybe 2s Shit idk

viscid remnant
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probably 2s

dark vigil
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bruhhhh

viscid remnant
#

its fairly convenient to take

grand mesa
#

Yeah

dark vigil
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thats clearly 20x more beneficial for ferals

grand mesa
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Fully kitty 2s

viscid remnant
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imagine if the old potp was in the game btw

grand mesa
#

Yeah

viscid remnant
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potp + draught

grand mesa
#

100k moonfires

dark vigil
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what was potp again

grand mesa
#

I wonder if

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They made the spellid change

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Because they new draught was coming back

dark vigil
#

as a feral we gotta spec into moonkin form and get that ability that increases your range by 5 yards for cleave builds

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blizz fucking our tree up so hard

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like go take away DH dmg and self heals

thick minnow
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wish they'd remove the ICD off thorns with all the self healing melee get now

dark vigil
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leave druids be jerks

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whats icd?

thick minnow
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internal cooldown. has 500ms one

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so max damage is like 10 instances for 120k dmg. a warrior can just heal that back up

dark vigil
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right

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sighhhhhhh

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too many classes have the ability to heal when they shouldnt

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warriors demon hunters i think rogues

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like unless your hybrid you shouldnt be healing like that

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i wish i could fully spec in guardian feral resto and moonkin trees all pointsin each

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id be so effing strong

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my primary would be feral but my hp would be like 1 mil

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i can kill you from a mile with lazers

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and i can heal myself to oblivian

thick minnow
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will say it is nice they're undoing years or work to fix class trees, instead of working on an a new system all expansion just to throw it away

hollow condor
viscid remnant
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na realm open yet ?

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@grand mesa

grand mesa
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Lol

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Odd that u check in on feral

viscid remnant
#

sometimes when iam bored and chat is dead

violet brook
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What do you think about my talents for restoration druid pvp? any improvements I can make?

grand mesa
viscid remnant
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

grand mesa
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2s or 3s/shuffle

violet brook
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2s

grand mesa
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Who’s your partner

violet brook
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he usually plays arms warrior

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sometimes beast master hunter

grand mesa
#

I’d take bash for the hunter for sure

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So you can setup traps for him inbetween pet stuns

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I think you might be overkill on going down barkskin path. Could pick up surge to actually do damage. And personally I haven’t done 2s in a while but it I were I’d try nourish

viscid remnant
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nope i didnt like nourish in 2s

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i wouldnt use it

grand mesa
#

You didn’t like?

viscid remnant
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too much damp

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it heals for shit

grand mesa
#

I mean everything else heals for worse than

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Are you talking specifically assa rogue?

viscid remnant
#

thats all u face lol

grand mesa
#

Yeah idk not like cultivation gonna save you either lol

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Even NS is piss into assa

violet brook
#

wow I just noticed starsurged is instant and doesn't require special mana

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I thought it was like balance where you need to build special mana and wait for proc

grand mesa
#

Yeah and can be cast in caster form

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It’s a huge upgrade from SL

#

And honestly one of the best changes they made between expacs

hollow condor
viscid remnant
#

there was maintence according to trevvy

hollow condor
#

Also trading post items are a little week this month. I think I just bank my shekels

viscid remnant
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server randomly yeeted for like 4 hours or something according to him

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notsure

hollow condor
#

Prolly to fix the exploit*

grand mesa
viscid remnant
grand mesa
#

So 2 more hours or just under @viscid remnant

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Not that it affects you cause you are quit

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Right

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Right???

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🤣

viscid remnant
#

cant resub when server is down

grand mesa
#

Oh the gold for game time is in game?

exotic wolf
#

is there a reason why I can't use a setting on my conquest neck?

grand mesa
#

Like have to login to servers

grand mesa
#

Seeing it on twitter too

exotic wolf
#

meh

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this game is buggy as hell

viscid remnant
#

yes

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if realm is down

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cant go to character select screen

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cant use token

grand mesa
#

Welcome back

viscid remnant
#

who says iam back

grand mesa
#

Well see

viscid remnant
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kinda wanna play eu maybe

#

notsure

exotic wolf
#

yeah, come to us 🙂

grand mesa
#

Don’t u have friends who will carry in keys

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In eu

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Idk I feel like

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The only thing holding you to eu is you have more characters

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For arena specifically you got more options here to play

viscid remnant
#

no schizo maintence

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no lag

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gg

hollow condor
viscid remnant
#

no need schizo hours to q up

grand mesa
#

But do u got buddies?

viscid remnant
#

50/50

grand mesa
#

On eu that’ll play

hollow condor
#

The trading post had a exploit where you could but xmog then refund it but keep xmog

grand mesa
#

I mean I can’t say I see everything but from Atleast druid discord all I saw was a lot of waiting for EP

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Yeah tough call. I think if you got buddies eu just makes sense. More normal hours no lag more toons

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Conquest cap + forge on week 3 soon you won’t even notice you were gone anyway

hollow condor
#

Don’t tell him to leave us puzzle

viscid remnant
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doesnt matter

#

feji ditches

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taxes only gets off work at like midnight my time

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weekend gaming

grand mesa
#

What matters is what makes most sense to David tbh. Especially if he hears back from job and he’s got it no shot he can even play NA anyway

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But if he’s got no one to play with on EU then it’s worth being scuffed NA weekend schedule

viscid remnant
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better qing soylo in eu than na

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if i q soylo

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

grand mesa
#

Lol

grand mesa
viscid remnant
#

dodger

grand mesa
#

Does he dodge?

wooden basalt
grand mesa
#

Yup

#

Think we just take the L and see how it feels

#

Every build that tries to snag germ seems worse than just saying fuck it

tepid spoke
#

i dont see whats bad about this?

viscid remnant
#

nice tree

wooden basalt
#

you need tree

tepid spoke
#

why?

viscid remnant
#

lose tree for invig

#

shit talent

wooden basalt
#

tree is arguably one of the best healing cds in the game

grand mesa
#

And has obv synergy with nourish

tepid spoke
#

honestly with nourish i dont think tree is gonna be missed much

sour tinsel
#

I just saw the new tree, it doesn't make any fucking sense, what's the point of forcing to drop Germ?

My God, no one has asked for these changes, stop messing with the tree, it's getting more and more fucked up every time.

wooden basalt
#

tree helps nourish a lot

viscid remnant
#

matty you kinda smoked krek

tepid spoke
#

u can even drop

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rg crit

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there

#

rg keeps being free mana

wooden basalt
#

again, you really can't drop tree

stray sigil
#

duelist wnchant out?

wooden basalt
#

tree is infinitely better than having germ

stray sigil
#

out or not

grand mesa
#

It’s on ptr

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Looks kinda sussy

stray sigil
grand mesa
#

Not live

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There’s tweets about it

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Check out yo boi snupy

stray sigil
grand mesa
#

I’d rather trade germ for invig than tree for invig

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Problem is invig is trash

#

If they reworked it some this would all feel infinitely better

#

Or like a “ok I don’t love this but it’s ok”

wooden basalt
#

invig is mediocre burst healing to lose your hots haha

#

cd doesn't even line up with SM either

grand mesa
#

A minor improvement would be to change its CD to 15s

wooden basalt
#

yeah

grand mesa
#

So you can Atleast pair invig with SM

#

What id love is if swiftmend extended the effect 🤣

tepid spoke
#

dont play invig

grand mesa
#

Instead of cancelling

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Then u can make it 30s or something and it would feel like a good button

wooden basalt
#

thought process is basically this:
you need all LB talents
you need tree
you need swarm

so what options does that leave you?

grand mesa
#

You could play like before 10.0.5 and play no nourish or verdancy

tepid spoke
wooden basalt
#

no budding leaves isn't an option even with a nerf

sour tinsel
viscid remnant
#

no budding leaves

tepid spoke
#

meh

viscid remnant
#

and circle is binned

grand mesa
#

Budding leaves bro

#

Circle is also trash

viscid remnant
#

imagine saying meh to budding leaves

tepid spoke
#

circle is better than invig

viscid remnant
#

xdddddd

grand mesa
#

Lifebloom is still your top healing despite all the nerfs

#

Like I said there isn’t a good build that accommodates germ without losing too much. We just take the L or hope they change it 🤣. Maybe they rework invig or add a connection straight from VI to germ

azure ore
#

I mean they changed the balance tree in 10.0.5 at least once or twice. No reason why they couldn't change things with resto as well.

#

But seriously - WHY are they making these changes. These guys never communicate basic stuff like this.

grand mesa
#

Only thing that makes sense is that this is an intended nerf

#

Cause I don’t think raid m+ or pvp we’re complaining about spec tree. There were sensible builds for each

#

Multiple options too and choices

patent dove
#

they were obviously targetted nerfs

stray sigil
#

trading post already disabled ?

patent dove
#

to prevent strong talent combos

azure ore
#

Maybe I just suck - but I didn't feel like our talents were very strong

grand mesa
#

Our talent combos were very strong

azure ore
#

Even if I just PvE healed from range - I almost always lost the mana battle no matter what build I ran.

grand mesa
#

Really strong feedback loop of stuff working with each other well

#

That’s why we keep copping nerfs in all 3 end games

#

🤣

azure ore
#

Sure - but better than other healing specs?

#

Again, I might just suck

grand mesa
#

Yes

#

If we didn’t catch all these nerfs we’d be highest hps and it’s not close

#

Maybe evoker

stray sigil
#

wait

#

server are offline

viscid remnant
#

Classic na

quaint minnow
grand mesa
#

This is my plan

#

It’s called the Take the L spec

#

🤣

stray sigil
#

good we like rdrus taking Ls

grand mesa
hollow condor
#

The intrusive thoughts are winning

tepid spoke
#

i will not lose germ

#

for tree

#

no shot in life

#

rdru without germ in pvp is so shit

stray sigil
#

is this good

#

guise?

tepid spoke
#

heroic

#

trolin or what?

stray sigil
#

r we good guise

tepid spoke
#

stop the cry

#

u are mid pack

#

overall and boss damage

#

who looks at heroic 99th percentile

#

only pvp peanut brain trols

grand mesa
#

I mean you adjust whatever difficulty percentile and just keep clicking until you get a set of bars that support your argument. Then you snapshot then go to twitter

tepid spoke
#

or u have 0 clue of how logs work

stray sigil
tepid spoke
#

and post it anyway

stray sigil
#

on boss

#

we are not middle though

tepid spoke
#

yes

#

thats called

#

midpack

stray sigil
#

how

#

on boss we area clearly bottom like 5-6

#

thats not mid

maiden viper
#

you cant finish catalyst quest spamming world boss on alts anymore?

#

rip

grand mesa
#

Did they fix that?

tepid spoke
#

theres 25 specs

#

u are the 16th better spec

#

thats pretty midpack to me

#

lower midpack

grand mesa
#

I just did it yesterday

#

That way

clear fox
stray sigil
tepid spoke
#

and in overall dam

#

feral is 11

#

out of 25th

viscid remnant
#

Packwatch

tepid spoke
#

thats more than mid

stray sigil
#

overall is such a piss thing to look at

tepid spoke
#

its not piss

#

why

#

lol

#

theres 1 st boss

#

and its the third one

#

really irelevant

stray sigil
#

ye and we shit

#

on st

viscid remnant
#

True

maiden viper
tepid spoke
#

not shit

#

average

#

and for 1 boss

#

out of 8

stray sigil
#

next raid watch it be

#

0 cleave boss

#

and the spec wont function

#

anymore

tepid spoke
#

next raid has a new tier set

#

which is gonna be more powerful

stray sigil
tepid spoke
#

and may have talent reworks

stray sigil
#

wrong

#

they hate feral

#

they reworked both our trees

#

like 4 times now

#

and we have the same issues

#

everytime

hollow condor
#

I’m losing my mind right now

stray sigil
#

what happened old man

viscid remnant
#

why taxes

stray sigil
#

must be old life crisis

#

tru or tru

#

twinkle got a rogue like i did yesterday

#

doesnt press blind or kidney

#

OMEGALUL

grand mesa
#

Maintenance extended to 3pm est

#

I nap

#

🤣

stray sigil
#

?????????????????????????????????????????????????????

viscid remnant
#

u see why

#

icant play NA

stray sigil
#

why though

viscid remnant
#

when its over ill go to bed

#

or be like

stray sigil
#

is it actualyl cuz of the trading post ?

viscid remnant
#

2 hr from going to sleep

stray sigil
#

what was the point

#

of yesterdays maintenance

#

if they have to redo one

#

fukin dogs

tepid spoke
#

the trading post

#

is such dogshit

#

this game full of fuckin nerds

#

just let me play man

viscid remnant
#

liderally 6hr maintence

stray sigil
#

theres no way its just the post no ?

viscid remnant
#

for a feature thats alredy live on EU

#

jaja

stray sigil
#

why does eu not get maintenance

#

it works on eu and not na ?

#

pepega?

tepid spoke
#

they are 1 day behind

#

they might have this maintenance tomorrow

livid wasp
#

haha

#

we have short maintenances

stray sigil
#

na matt

livid wasp
#

they do all the work on your servers then they copy paste for EU

stray sigil
#

we do the bug fixing

#

for eu

#

so they get lower maintenance

#

its true

tepid spoke
#

so dog

#

do them at like 2 am

#

to 7 am

#

fuckin lazy pigs

viscid remnant
#

nope middle of the day

#

r worded company

livid wasp
#

rich company

tiny oar
#

@tepid spoke cum