where r u at
#pvp
stray sigil
stray sigil
so i make right race
haughty compass
You’re a legend
viscid remnant
ALLIANCE HUMAN ILLIDAN
haughty compass
You gonna do feral gaming for legend wins?
stray sigil
GPO
safe heart
david why u making guild
safe heart
what is name
viscid remnant
FUKPOD
safe heart
PRAS
edgy shale
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
edgy shale
eat idot
viscid remnant
i schizoed out of that 1
forsure
but the 2.4 soylo
had to be done
i havent lost rate
a single game
TOO HEROIC
haughty compass
Insane tbh
viscid remnant
i think worst i went was 2-4 twice but still gained rate
6-0 some random evoker was prob the bigdam
haughty compass
Yea I’m hoping my mmr is high enough if I 3-3 I get the 15
haughty compass
How many total games?
tiny oar
viscid remnant
100ish rounds
haughty compass
Animal
viscid remnant
Duno i turned pc off
haughty compass
Ok now we Rdu dk evoker to 2.4 3s
hollow condor
David Schizo zone today but came out an Elite member of the champions club firm handshakes
viscid remnant
hollow condor
edgy shale
stray sigil
ok
i went 3-3
almost
threw
@vestal citrus i had
robot
on his ele on my lobby
was tempting
to just
run it down
when he was on my time
but im a good boy
grand mesa
lmao idk
grand mesa
we 4 heal like 28 man h raz
grand mesa
its gonna get nerfed
grand mesa
i hate ret
grand mesa
they forget to press bubble on my team
stray sigil
its fucking stupid
grand mesa
and 1 shot on the other team
grand mesa
no the way ret does dam is so fucking annoying
cause at no point do u really feel safe
grand mesa
when ret on other team
grand mesa
or leg sweep serenity
it can be like 45s 1 min go's idc
and big dam
i mind this ret shit
deva shit too tbh
although not as bad obv
grand mesa
does this make seraphim proc worth caring about
grand mesa
yeah
grand mesa
sup
grand mesa
i stopped doing it
stray sigil
enough for radiant
edgy shale
it gives u like valdraken rep i think
stray sigil
i mean they do big dam
grand mesa
they need to buff defensives and consistent dam
grand mesa
like i keep my offensive CD tracking very very minimal
grand mesa
like mindgames, limb
haughty compass
Dampening just fucks a few classes defensives
grand mesa
like i don't track any monk shit
cause it all starts with a leg sweep anyway
i just track sweep
dark elm
hey guys
dark elm
any resto druids can tell me how to track dispels?
stray sigil
i think it's moreso ur regrowth and wogs
??
dark elm
bigdebuffs doesnt show me on my party frames i want something that makes it obvious that something needs to be dispelled
stray sigil
regen gets affected by damp
dark elm
like changing the colour of the persons unit frame
grand mesa
that is not a native stock feature nor is it a bigdebuffs one
fortunately
i am the addon guy
Raid Frame Settings
is an addon
that adjusts stock behavior
to do that
grand mesa
davanced raid frame setings
stray sigil
wtf
jah is playing
convoke ?
in shuffles ?
?
?
he was at least
weird
ig he was with sub rogue
maybe makes some sense
dark elm
davanced raid frame setings
thanks mate this is perfect
grand mesa
NP
haughty compass
REGEN HEALING
Yea renewing blaze too
grand mesa
thanks mate this is perfect
np dude i'm just your friendly neighborhood addonguy
haughty compass
hes losing all the games hes playing it
Lol
grand mesa
I’m glad convoke is dead
safe heart
same
grand mesa
Could u imagine shuffle with convoke just one shotting every minute
safe heart
ppl who like convoke
safe heart
are giga sus
safe heart
clone is giga bis
grand mesa
Try healing it
vale bane
why are my rakes not stunning on resto?
safe heart
are you pressing it hard enough
stray sigil
foxy is a 3rd rate duelist with a 2nd rate deck
we dont shittalk foxy here
safe heart
why not
stray sigil
cuz hes a g
safe heart
are you talking about syfox
vale bane
are you pressing it hard enough
yes and i swapped from boomy to resto
safe heart
okay yeah thats what i thot
stray sigil
safe heart
u r boosted
grand mesa
fuji
grand mesa
foxy is mid
stray sigil
safe heart
i am olmypic liver
stray sigil
how can someone be so wrong
says hp > lotr
foxy is mid
any other bs u wanna say
go on
safe heart
wtf is hp
stray sigil
harry potter
grand mesa
nerf feral
stray sigil
safe heart
hary poter is boosted by heronie
dark elm
np dude i'm just your friendly neighborhood addonguy
what about this
i have another thing that might be an addon
grand mesa
whats that
dark elm
my target 12 and self is set to mousewheel up/mouse wheel down and shift mousewheel down but it doesnt really make sense because it always puts me at the top
it would be good if i could just mousewheel and it scrolled thru party
stray sigil
@grand mesa i realized somethnig about radiant wings with feral
i cant trade against that
its kinda doomed
if i wall 1
next one im fucked no matter what
stray sigil
reroll ur key
how wadf
grand mesa
<@139195873224556545> i realized somethnig about radiant wings with feral
YEAH
yeah
it's dumb
but im not thinking about it too much cause like
no shot that stays for that much longer
my only concern is that because it's AWC season, they're gonna be slower
now
stray sigil
no shot that stays for that much longer
grand mesa
maybe
i mean
wait
i feel like
we had this exact convo
lmao
yesterday
i really like this one selena gomez song in trevvy;'s playlist
stray sigil
grand mesa
dark elm
brus
u gotta help me find what that addons called
ive googled so much shit and just asked every discord
cant find it
guy who posted
grand mesa
in the addon section of pvp discord
stray sigil
sadge
no boorst only tannel
oh ye
LOL
every day a new tweet
with a fucked word
dark elm
in the addon section of pvp discord
u got link to that discord?
haughty compass
boorst
hollow condor
no boorst
edgy shale
why do u @ me in there u degerfrart
stray sigil
fweral no boorst pod
grand mesa
NO BOORST
safe heart
who is this streamer Soap
stray sigil
who
stray sigil
grand mesa
gay guy who thinks he's a vampire who's in love with mitch
has been stalking mitch for years
grand mesa
safe heart
i hadnt seen her before but shes like lifetime 1600
so was curious
according to cehckpvp
hollow condor
modest citrus
do boomkins use 4 piece in pvp
grand mesa
Wonder what they’re min maxxing
Engineering Shit with the infinite sparks?
@vestal citrus
I can’t wait for awc
safe heart
why does 2s feel like 15mph
grand mesa
Because it is and ur used to shuffle now lol
safe heart
literally feels like im playing with ankle weights and also a 29 lb dong
stray sigil
haughty compass
literally feels like im playing with ankle weights and also a 29 lb dong
So me always
stray sigil
ENOUGH OF UR NEGATIVITY
U GOTTA RISE UP OLD MAN
PUSH THRU TO THE EDGE
PUSH THRU AND EAT ASS
lime light
Man
Its crazy to me
How Smart EP is
He said years years ago
That feral ele best Comp in the game
Cuz no one can outheal
And when i turn on na stream
There is like ele feral every 2nd game
Ep the prophet
winged folio
would someone be able to explain to me why most pvp trees on the left side choose astral influence? im struggling to understand why
so starfire,starsurge, moonkin
stray sigil
Ele feral u say
clear pulsar
would someone be able to explain to me why most pvp trees on the left side choos...
Extra range is just super based, you can sometimes hit other melees where they cant hit you, but also just more uptime on ranged that are trying to kite
kindred patrol
421 primal vers/mastery staff vs 424 haste conquest polearm for feral, have both
safe heart
Prob vers mast
winged folio
are there any other advantage in damage or survivability?
safe heart
Huh
I don't think the range is worth giving up clone unless you're playing like ebola/kitty
But even in kitty I like clone more
Closing discord because I'm not gunna argue tho
stray sigil
edgy shale
true ep
stray sigil
shut up pod
wise valley
sacred wyvern
How do i fight 1. warlock, 2. dk, 3. sp? I am mostly losing such encounters
wise valley
You right better
If you have trouble with one class it’s a match up / play style issue if not a straight counter
If you suck aginst half the classes it’s a skill issue
sacred wyvern
Well it’s actually just these 3
wise valley
Memorize spell book>learn counter> play accordingly with appropriate comp
sacred wyvern
Is there a kind of guide how to counter classes?
wise valley
If that class counters you it doesn’t matter and get carried by your team
sacred wyvern
Ah okay, do you know a ressource that tells what counters what?
sacred wyvern
Sorry totally new whats is the pins guide?
wise valley
“Counter” is not official but more so used in the moment
The pin symbol in type of right discord
sacred wyvern
Ah thanks 🙂
wise valley
On mobile press the person and then pin
sacred wyvern
Gonna check that out
wise valley
A counter is like a high mobility class with cc against a low mobility class in a duel
Without a team you “counter” them
sacred wyvern
Olay got that, do i suck or are sp, lock and dk hard to play against as feral?
wise valley
Sometimes it doesn’t matter if they’re cracked but comp usually helps
I have no idea lmao but I’m assuming lock is pain kn the ass as usual
sacred wyvern
😄 okay thanks for the hints anyway, gonna read through them
wise valley
I remember I. Legion I physically wrote down how I fucked up against every class
It didn’t help for shit but it’s kind of inspiring tbh
whole ingot
Isn’t UH dk just downright impossible if they play halfway decent
Feels like you can pop Surv+Skin+Bear+Frenzied regen and they’ll still tick you for 40% hp a sec (slight overexaggeration maybe)
fair mirage
whole ingot
So you play mass entangle against UH?
exotic wolf
Good morning bois and gurls 
exotic wolf
So you play mass entangle against UH?
I do, yes
stone breach
Is there a kind of guide how to counter classes?
Skill capped
exotic wolf
no sane dps player can...
north grove
is there any good resto pvp heals streaming right now?
gleaming gate
Morning all
potentially stupid question: I got tier shoulders last week but they have bad stats (no vers) and this week I got an option conq shoulders with good stats. Is there any merit in taking the conq shoulders to eventually convert them into tier shoulders with good stats? Or does it not work like that?
viscid remnant
Wrong
Tier shoulder is good stats
Only tier pieces that have versa are helm and glove
If u convert conq shoulder it will be same stat as tier shoulder from vault
Tier stats are static
If u are resto/feral best 4set item is all but chest
exotic wolf
I got tier chest in Vault. Now i got 2 piece!
Idgaf about stats there though. 2 set bonus > some versa
brazen panther
piggie
tranquil silo
What should i do to get my 2 pieces if it doesn't drop in the chest to not fall behind?
exotic wolf
what do you mean exactly?
north grove
What should i do to get my 2 pieces if it doesn't drop in the chest to not fall ...
day 24 or 23 january you'll be able to turn one "chest, gloves, helmet, legs, shoulder" item in one tierset pvp item, using the catalyst
the other possible ways to get "Tier" is doing PVE.. but you probably DONT want to do that, because the iLVL is SUPER LOW comparing to PVP Gear
tranquil silo
oh ok nice
north grove
thats the link with the catalyst info
tranquil silo
We know what will be the requirements ?
north grove
it says "The Inspiration Catalyst has charges which are capped at 6. Each week, you can complete an account-wide quest which will grant a charge for all your characters."
so, in 24th january you'll be able to do a quest to turn 1 conquest pvp item into 1 conquest tier item. if you dont own the tierset pieces, you should aim for those. try to get the ones with versa first, or the ones that fit your main stats
every 1 week you do a quest and u grab it
theres no 'currency' attached to it
just do the quest and yall be able to get it
fiery reef
crit on every piece
bruh
alright at least the shoulders are tier set
ah, there is no vers/mastery shoulders. these are bis then? or haste/vers are the better ones
rdruid btw
clear pulsar
Tier shoulder is bis
tranquil silo
ok one item per week
fiery reef
we always use medallion+alacrity?
gleaming gate
If u convert conq shoulder it will be same stat as tier shoulder from vault
ah OK. I thought that could be a possibility. Thanks
Bonus question: are the tier shoulders (without the tier bonus since I only have 1pc) superior to the honor shoulders? No vers but more stam/int
exotic wolf
Bonus question: are the tier shoulders (without the tier bonus since I only have...
G — heute um 11:03 Uhr
Doesn’t matter rly
[11:03]
Your skill matters more than arbitrary stats on gear
If you can complete 2 or 4 set go, stats don't matter.
if it's set piece for 1 non set and you won't get a set bonus do as you like.
just take what you think you are most comfortable with. (equipping)
clear pulsar
I'd wear the 424 easily
north grove
try going for head/hands coz those give versa
clear pulsar
Stam and int are based as fuck
clear pulsar
Laugh at this user with pve gear
north grove
pve 4p for raiding as feral
gleaming gate
I'd wear the 424 easily
Thanks! 🙂
gleaming gate
What do you guys do when sitting in queues? Feral queues I am finding to be looong
Might start some proffessions or something just for something to do idk 😄
Heard tailoring is good for lazy money
clear pulsar
Yeah I gather
north grove
So that's for pvp too
no mate, hehe
i only have 1 tierset for pvp.
i dont run pve gear at pvp
so i dont have tierset in pvp
only 1 gloves from tierset
clear pulsar
You really should
Run 4p in pvp
Well idk if boomies do
But resto 4p is legendary rn
north grove
im resto
clear pulsar
30s NS
north grove
i kinda lose a huge chunk of HP
coz ilvl are low
idk
well.. hp only matters if can they reach u
gleaming gate
Yeah I gather
That's what I do atm but find gathering a bit mind numbing
pallid coral
Pve 4p tho
i use pve 4p wh
considering this When you enter Eclipse, your next Starsurge or Starfall costs no Astral Power and deals 35% increased damage is balance 4pc
im p sur ethey ue
use
exotic wolf
What do you guys do when sitting in queues? Feral queues I am finding to be looo...
when I'm in home office I work between queues.
if not I watch anime/youtube, gather, do wq etc..
clear pulsar
i use pve 4p wh
Ok but your pve 4p isn't half mythic half heroic
If it was half normal half lfr that'd be something
Guilty do you know anything about spark acquisition rate
After it bcomes random drops?
clear pulsar
viscid remnant
north grove
Guilty do you know anything about spark acquisition rate
i read
that spark of ingenuity after 5th one will be "rare" but will be obtainable from most activities
so i believe.. world quests, any PVP instance (bg, arenas, etc), dungeons, even dragonbane keep and great feast
theres a post somewhere on wowhead that talks about that
north grove
yea they just say "rare"
clear pulsar
I'd love to get 2 sparks fast next week
So I can use a higher than 402 ilvl weapon on feral
clear pulsar
You're hiding offline
Like a little ratta
Wcyd
BUT
HUGE gaming
Strong mental no more /afk spam
I knew you had it in you ofc I was just making use of reverse psychology
pallid coral
what spec did you play david
viscid remnant
i wasnt offline
i was on phone
i play rdru ofc
its broken
all i needed face was 1 day to q up
cuz soylo is a big joke
its true
viscid remnant
only wins in this chanal pls
north grove
i need to unbind my "backpedal" "S" key
mortal flume
if you never press it, why not unbind it?
viscid remnant
idk
north grove
i have the bad habit of pressing it on some pve situations
im healing since shadowlands s3
and losing games
coz i cant outrange sometims coz im dumb
viscid remnant
idk man
i press it once in a while
to do slight corrections
not rly something insane
north grove
one thing
im not used to
evoker starts flying towards me
sleep walk
im close to pillar
hug pillar
back pedalling
evoker still cast sleep walk coz he flies casting and he gets me
in this specific situation i am failing alot
i need to out range this
north grove
mass root can root through wall?
viscid remnant
no
north grove
through pillar i mean
viscid remnant
but he cant sleep u thru wall
north grove
so isnt vortex better?
ye but he start casting sleep walk while im casting heals
u
"outside" pillar
with hover, zephyr, i dk the skill name
then he just do a turn around and end his cast
viscid remnant
u cant dodge 100% of sleepwalks
but u just need to see it coming
notmuch else u can do
i like mass roots more than vortex cuz u cant miss it and its lower cd
north grove
ill try that out
viscid remnant
also to add to benefit of mass roots it works offensively against evokers
because they cant use their biggest heal(verdant embrace) while rootd
clear pulsar
so isnt vortex better?
Vortex is twice the cd and you have to place on the right place
Mass root >>
For sure
viscid remnant
ye u just gotta be aware of evoker positioning at all times
grand mesa
Morning
livid wasp
tardy hare
Reformed zechey
proven bison
So mage was spamming polymorph in ss all game on me in the middle of the arena and not a single time was kicked.
my teammate blames me for not dodging in shapeshift
Am I supposed to sit in shapeshift 100% of the time or what? I literally could not heal because If I shapeshift - can't heal, no shapeshift - poly
surely they have to get kicked at least half the time?
grand mesa
You should shift most of them yeah. Ofc in high pressure someone is low situation where ur forced to heal u might get snagged by one inbetween GCDs.
At the same time the mage shouldn’t be so free to cast. Who were they on
proven bison
You should shift most of them yeah. Ofc in high pressure someone is low situatio...
but how. there is constant damage going out. If I shift - he just recasts it a second later
literally he just stands there and casts poly 100% of the time
modest citrus
Check murlok.io
never heard of this before, thanks
proven bison
I don't have a single global to heal
mortal flume
they don't have a single global to interrupt, they need to focus to reach 10k dps
grand mesa
If he’s only casting poly how is someone taking so much damage that you absolutely need to heal
How are you positioning
proven bison
If he’s only casting poly how is someone taking so much damage that you absolute...
It's not that there si a lot of damage it's that there is ANY damage
I literally either sit in poly or in shapeshift
proven bison
How are you positioning
doesn't matter where I position, because mage just hugs me and casts poly
viscid remnant
root him and run away
proven bison
root him while he casts poly on me?
grand mesa
Mass entangle is insta in any form
viscid remnant
root and run away yes
north grove
so, i play in low cr right now, but just adding something to what puzzle said
if you can play next to a pillar and find a safe spot to 'hide and seek' /LOS you should do it
sometimes its just easier to LOS the cast, specially if u are reapplying hots and the gcd wont let you
also you dont want to stand near "dangerous cc's" if you are able to, you can play on 40yards range from your teammates
prefferably position urself in a way that theres only your teammates ahead of you, and you have them on line of sight
grand mesa
If you are saying you are on blade’s edge and you are being camped by mage on your side of the bridge and they’re ignoring him yeah I get that that’s rough
viscid remnant
idk it depends
i had a mage game on blades edge and i wasnt having too many issues
he was tryign to cast poly and there was barely any dmg going out
grand mesa
Yeah
north grove
dont forget that "Incarnation Tree" is HUGE, insta cast regrowths (dont let you get kicked for 6secs) and also you dont get poly in that form
grand mesa
That’s also true too
north grove
it lasts for shit tons of time, which might helps if you need to heal in pressure
viscid remnant
true
grand mesa
Big tree kinda fucks mages
grand mesa
I just hit big brocc on their opener so I don’t have to worry about poly for 30s
viscid remnant
but its fairly easy to deal with mages as druid
north grove
yup
grand mesa
So then at that point the only thing you watch out for is being far enough away that they can’t easily DB ring
grand mesa
Michael is special
north grove
in shadowlands i think there was only 1 class that didnt use 4 pieces, right?
1 spec*
viscid remnant
mw is the only spec i know that set was useless for
grand mesa
Some mage specs didn’t do 4 too iirc
north grove
i think affli locks didnt wear 4 pieces too?
grand mesa
Affliction 4pc wasn’t very good either I’m pretty sure yeah
proven bison
yeah idk. dps always position in such a way that I have to sit in the open to not los and then their ppl have free reign to chainc cc me since kicks don't exist in ss apparently
north grove
so, im not a good player, i play with the flow, usually get more rating at middle to late season
but what i can tell you
grand mesa
Michael is dumb David
north grove
is that solo shuffle is chaotic, specially if you are playing healer and learning, coz not everyone knows where to stand, how to play
BUT, it can be done, and you can use it to learn too.. but for reals, 3v3 rated games with comms (Specially with friends or people that are into pvp, learning, or with more experience than you) will help a lot
not everything is other people fault
playing healer isnt exactly easy, specially if you are learning
but it can be done and you can get there
when i play with 2 friends that get into really good positioning in 3s, and trade defensive cds, know when they are performing a "go"
stuff gets easier
proven bison
It's just consistently so much pressure that I can't be out of healing for a second or someone dies
and enemies can spend 20s just spamming cc on me for free
or it's the other way around
halcyon summit
veinripper or rip and tear for rbgs guys?
north grove
It's just consistently so much pressure that I can't be out of healing for a sec...
you need to figure if you are doing things correctly
proven bison
you need to figure if you are doing things correctly
not healing is incorrect I'm pretty sure
north grove
if you are doing pre-hots correctly (i wasnt for example)
you shouldnt struggle all the time
make sure you rejuv + lifebloom the 2 dps on ur team as "pre hots"
then you cast regrowth on yourself
this way you have 3 hots on 2 dps
proven bison
there's so much damage these days that I can have all the hots on 1 person, wild growth and swarm and they need to be spammed regrowth or they die
north grove
whoever gets "targeted" as kill focus you can use cenarion ward
proven bison
and this is the time I get chain CC
north grove
so
proven bison
yes including cen ward
proven bison
there's so much damage it doesn't matter
north grove
pressing "overgrowth" really early
halcyon summit
veinripper or rip and tear for rbgs guys???
grand mesa
I find it hard to believe that anyone’s play is so perfect that the only possible takeaway is that yeah there was literally nothing you could do
viscid remnant
very true
north grove
ye
and
you gotta make sure you are pre-hotting
coz otherwise
throwing hots when ppl are already at mid hp makes stuff rough
u lose some important gcds
also u gotta make sure you are doing pre hots
coz otherwise at some point you are wasting overgrowth
and u gotta make sure you are ready to "trade" CDs
if ppl are bursting down one of your DPS.. while they are "pre hotted" u just need to throw a CD like ironbark and double ur rejuv
if only 1 person is gettin down
u lifebloom that person and u lifebloom urself
coz lifebloom on urself makes hots ticks a lil faster
otherwise u keep lifebloom on ur 2 dps
and about getting constantly CCd
that happens to me sometimes too
and thats something that i need to get better, but basically
it lacks some awareness
u gotta see that enemy holy paladin is coming through the arena w/ horse ready to stun you
at that point you can throw mass root / vortex, try to shadowmeld, or outrange him by doing leap w/ wild charge in travel form
viscid remnant
need to see gameplay tbf
i find myself doing way better when i just focus on pumping hps rather than doing fancy cc and stuff like that
grand mesa
I was the opposite David actually
north grove
stop trying to CC , bash clones, etc
viscid remnant
cuz in the opener of every shuffle every dps player pressses their whole spellbook and u need to be ready
imean depends on situation puzzle
grand mesa
When I played completely completely passive I’d get pushed on for CC and lose I needed to dam and pressure some
north grove
ok but thats on high rating, right?
grand mesa
But I think anyone learning full passive pve healer is the way
viscid remnant
idk i played same til 2.4
exotic wolf
there's so much damage these days that I can have all the hots on 1 person, wild...
spamming regrowth is never good
viscid remnant
When I played completely completely passive I’d get pushed on for CC and lose I ...
just depends
north grove
also you gotta check if theres a huge heal eater on ur target
viscid remnant
when i was going for rake clone at start
north grove
if theres an arms warrior doing heal reduce
proven bison
spamming regrowth is never good
Uhuh, and what exactly should I do when every hot is already on htem and they are still dying?
viscid remnant
thats what i mean
grand mesa
Oh yeah no I never rake clone healer on start
exotic wolf
Uhuh, and what exactly should I do when every hot is already on htem and they ar...
CW, AS, 3 stack Lifebloom , 2 rejuvs, regrowth hot, wild grwoth and u spam regrowth?
I mean, if they die and you spam regrowth into a full hotted dps then you are not the problem sir.
grand mesa
For exactly reason u said
viscid remnant
ye the games i raked healer
grand mesa
Then yeet
viscid remnant
consistently went to shit
grand mesa
Then tree if they popped buttons
grand mesa
Rake is good when u drop combat mid game or when you’re coming out of CC and you drop combat from being in CC so long
Quick prowl charge rake
viscid remnant
the thing with shuffle some matches u win by just keeping ur team alive
full stop
north grove
the problem with doing rake at openner is that you want your DPS to be doing big dam during ur rake clone
grand mesa
I mean that’s honestly rdru win condition in shuffle yeah
grand mesa
the problem with doing rake at openner is that you want your DPS to be doing big...
It’s not even that it’s that like David said. You’re out of position likely going for it. And you’re a couple GCDs behind on opener so you have to catch up -> dps presses a wall they didn’t need to if you were just healing from start -> they die second or third go
north grove
It’s not even that it’s that like David said. You’re out of position likely goin...
thats what usually happen
grand mesa
Every time I went far for rake clone early on it ended the same
Dps walls the same time I NS
north grove
i think you? el patron and "G" helped alot saying that i should just heal
grand mesa
Guy dies shortly after
grand mesa
Yeah I’ve always recommended just stay away and heal and for low CR guy that’s like +500 rating
If they just heal from far away
proven bison
Yeah I’ve always recommended just stay away and heal and for low CR guy that’s l...
can't stay away and heal on the stupid prison legion arena whatever it's called
grand mesa
I mean shuffle is diff because sure mongo dps like to line you so sometimes you have to play closer than you’d like but it is what it is
proven bison
can't break 1500 because I get CC for 10 seconds = death
and I can't sit behind pillar because then los = death
north grove
start recording your own games and ppl will help you out in here, @proven bison
record it and post it on youtube non-listed just so higher experience people can help you out with advice or telling what you might be doing wrong
proven bison
maybe I'll do that, alright
grand mesa
I bet you if you record vod and post I can find plenty of things that are helpful and specific to just you and not what your idiot dps are doing
It’s easy to blame the dps and they’re dumb for sure
exotic wolf
yep
grand mesa
But there’s a lot of things we can do to mitigate dumb
north grove
yes dps = always dumbdumb
but theres always something that we can do
otherwise, people would never get away from low cr
exotic wolf
if u master max range afk healing in low mmr you win a lot of games and climb fast
proven bison
I mean I'm dumb for sure but damn, I can't resist 20 cc spells in a row
north grove
so, thats why people need to watch ur gameplay
coz ideally, at max range, you wouldnt get that many ccs
grand mesa
My one generic advice to you probably without viewing vods is don’t NS piss. On my original arena climb when I first started arena. I started to gain points fast when I stopped doing NS just because a bar was low. If they’re low but there’s no damage let the hots do the work. The less I NS liberally the more I had it up for when I actually needed it. And games got way easier
north grove
and yes, sometimes there will be that one dps that will have "tunnel vision" (fury warriors hehehe) and they will line you, but then you know that dude lined
grand mesa
Obv that’s alittle harder now cause ele and rets exist
But you shouldn’t NS just because they’re low and that’s it. Have to have a stricter criteria in your head
Before you press
grand mesa
It sounds like you’re asking for full hots to heal thru insane damage so what did u NS prior
proven bison
Is there any guide for all arenas like where to stand?
north grove
someone drew an image
grand mesa
Skill capped used to have a great one on YouTube
That I can’t find
That one bandido?
proven bison
lmao
grand mesa
It’s much easier on big maps with melee turds all fighting each other
proven bison
I meant for like specific arenas
north grove
blade edge's arena is the hardest in low cr solo shuffle
coz you want your team to be at mid bridge
proven bison
black rook hold is the bane of me specifically
literally have no idea where to stand not to los dps
grand mesa
Tell them at start to not fight in the room
proven bison
blade's edge is second worst
grand mesa
Own mid
proven bison
yeah but then they run behind centre pillar and I kind have to run after or los
grand mesa
If you’re backed up into your starting room or they over extend into theirs it’s bad
proven bison
and then it's open season for enemies to cc me
grand mesa
Central pillar you should be able to play ok
proven bison
Central pillar you should be able to play ok
really? usually enemies just get in melee to me and stun, fear, trap whatever
cause it's so close to the action
grand mesa
If they’re fighting on pillar you swing out to the open areas and 40 yards. The big thing about being far away too is that it forces enemy to telegraph their intent to CC. So then you can tranq or meld CC
Then they’re fighting in open then you can hug pillar and keep pillar inbetween you and CCer
proven bison
but don't the barriers around the pillar los as well
grand mesa
That’s the side that’s tricky sure and you might have to do dumb shit to keep them in line. But always try to swing wide to chase
north grove
thats how i learned to heal blade edge on 3s. IM NOT SURE if high cr people do like that
but what i learn is: i want to be on the green spot, so i can dodge stuff if needed near the pillars or outranging/LOS near ramp
i want my DPS team to start game going through mid ramp, so no one stack at me at "green".. coz a monk can come and do a triple leg sweep, stuff like that
if enemy team comes towards me, they need to be punished somehow. make them target and CC enemy heals, since enemy DPS will be outranging enemy heals
if my DPS team need to LOS something, they use mid ramps, so they get down, and i can still heal them from my ramp side
proven bison
JESUS CHRIST YOU JINXED ME
black rook arena and my team rushes into enemy room lmao
somehow they lived
north grove
if u get rushed, its hard, coz ur DPS might LOS you if they stay at "green point"
coz u need to get away from green, if double meele stay there, for example
so in that case you kinda go to mid bridge
but thats scary if your DPS goes down the ramp a little bit
coz LOS 100%
but what really helps @proven bison , is to watch some good streamers. there are plenty of resto druids at 2400+ cr and higher CR
you can watch any healer actually for positioning, but watching a resto druid will be better coz you'll see other stuff hes doing too
grand mesa
black rook arena and my team rushes into enemy room lmao
Yeah either room is bad
proven bison
I'm watching supatease usually
grand mesa
Rdruid cannot heal well when fights are in that room
grand mesa
Yeah
Either I tell them to own mid or own their side of the bridge and I push up alittle
Depending on what comp I am and what they are
The last thing you want is the fight to be pushed into your side of the bridge
north grove
meele cleave goes BIRLL
yesss
coz u'll either get triple leg sweep, or they'll force u to pop big stuff, cleave 3 at same time, or u need to go to mid bridge
grand mesa
Against enemy druid I say to push in some and own their side so their rdruid is incredibly uncomfy
north grove
and in mid bridge ppl on ur side will LOS u
grand mesa
What’s easier about 3s is if they want to go mongo and want to start chasing to their ramps
It’s a lot easier to coordinate cause they can trade a button to stay aggro
And I tell them when to use
north grove
hell, i almost always lose every game
north grove
this is good in comms
grand mesa
the edge sucks ass
TRUE
north grove
i like to do that, but i do that in 2v2s usually
im more used to 2s
3s are slightly harder
north grove
rofl
i just had a game
where warlock lost 1-5
he said "nah, i wont kill dh, i will just walk around, coz druid dont use clone"
tepid spoke
north grove
he was the only caster, sadly, with 3 meeles
north grove
pissed warlock complaining at low cr https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFVIJ4oHSGw&list=PLKUrvuH3C-CkZ5VrOgVnD5pW-fXrBuiPK&index=2
srry he complains at the end of the video, last arena
solemn timber
hello, im seeing multiples talents build to resto, what do you recommend to a player who wants to start pvp and got low idea ?
clear pulsar
pissed warlock complaining at low cr https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFVIJ4oHSGw...
VAI BRAZILIAN
north grove
HU3HU3H3U
clear pulsar
ember dock
Ok i got
A team to push keys so i dont need to pug anymore
So on my free time
Im gonna only pvp pogU
@grand mesa its time for 1800
north grove
hello, im seeing multiples talents build to resto, what do you recommend to a pl...
right now im super dumbdumb low cr player, but i'll give the same advice el patron and the otehrs gave to me
run incarn tree talents! u might find those in solo shuffle talents in murlok.io
uh, if you want to play shuffle ofc. but also in 3v3s, specially to someone whos learning, it might help
solemn timber
Thanks! will give it a look
north grove
other ppl are running 'invigorate'
and you can differ playstyle by getting "cat weaving skills" (mostly in 2s, where you are able to do so)
but on 3s you prob wont be able to do that
do you play resto druid already? in pve?
clear pulsar
never seen them before and now in both teams
Yeah they only get matched vs protpalas
patent dove
Prot pals count as their own bracket. They only play prot pals
north grove
pretty sure i saw blood dk somewhere
clear pulsar
pissed warlock complaining at low cr https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFVIJ4oHSGw...
Do I critique this?
north grove
there are huge misstakes on this one
ironbarks in wrong timings
some poor positionings
go ahead
there are tons of issue
hahah
issues
also, im missing omnibar
viscid remnant
U got unlucky
exotic wolf
I swear to god
cant do shit vs 2 meless with prot pala
zero healing
I dont get that spec
pallid coral
pretty sure i saw blood dk somewhere
blood dks count as dps
every tank counts as dps except prot pala
who count as healers
north grove
damn. played with a blood dk once, he joined it wrong
w/ wrong spec*
@clear pulsar im also sleepy. at some point i completely forgot that i had thorns vs 2 meeles
xD
pallid coral
Im kinda tempted to try get rank 1 guardian druid