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whats the best enchants for Feral pvp?
See what buttons work better for taking giga dam
Temporal anomaly is goof in bgs
With the echo talent
It applies lifebind at full power iirc
I haven’t fucked with temp anomaly yet
@tepid spoke are u raiding in DF
Or full pvp Andy
im trying to do as much dmg at the same time im healing
My guild finishes at 1 am
Bis playstyle imo
I wish I liked m+ more
Maybe if rdru is clear meta and it’s not terrible getting into groups
Its good
When you have to heal
After everyone is overgeared and shit
Is shit
Cuz no damage
And u gotta do the dps role
Thats shit imo
Rlp is gonna be a blast
Every pull is 60k hps angle
No pve
I like the weaving dps and healing
idk how I do 10 m healing and enemy evoker did 16m
doesnt even feel like theres much to heal
if everyones full hp why shouldnt I just be doing dps
like I got no time to react
when I get bursted in 2 sec
wtf should I do
this community feast is so shit
no timer for it
I went there didnt get credit
idk how im supposed to get it done
apparently had to get some weakaura to get the timer for the event
Now that you have played it a bit, is balance dead in arena like many streamers predicted?
Anyone have a balance pvp spec I can use? Couldn't find one in pins
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Ty
if you want a good laugh - get an arcane mage to you attack you with sleeper on. It's been a long time since I last saw someone kill themselves on a bear lmfao
There was a point where rage of the sleeper granted cc immunity, right? Can't see it in changelog now.
Feral is insane not sure what the problem is
It never granted CC immunity in beta from what I understand. The tooltip just said it did
whats insane about it
can i get some opinions on taking convoke as feral
I like it, even only the 2min version if you can fit the point
is incarn any better or nah
Very good consistent dmg, very tanky. I think feral gonna be a menace in arena
Ah thx, so was never in retail which is why it's not in changelog
im not a big fan of incarn tbh. Maybe if you had a lot of uptime the longer frenzy could be nice. Or maybe for RBG not sure. Convoke is a great pressure CD or emergency heal
Sad to hear that. But they are probably still solid in rbgs I guess
can't clone cap now ... makes them an even more a budget rogue
now that the boots and trinkets give you 15% cc redux you cannot warstomp -> clone either
I think feral owns too pykan
u think bleeds do big dam?
@clear pulsar
Hmm true. But I guess their aoe with star fall is good and they can still co-cap with a rogue
did u look at my st build
ipod said to take apex cuz good 1 pointer
is it better than taking cdr reduc on incarn
or even in incarn proc thing
cuz ideally i would like to take the icnarn cdr no ?
Cdr idk
Maybe but I think it's not very good value when you get giga ccd or downtime from bear form etc
has to be better consistently than apex no ?
Feji = freanzyband lover
If you can maintain 2 Rips apex procs a ton already
ye but my st build is like a 2s maybe jungle build
u wont be cleaving that hard i dont think
is there a basic guide out there I am considering leveling I haven't played a ton of feral in a while
But in 2s convoke might even be a play
No I think if you're doing mostly just st damage apex not worth
I'm running the same build you pinned non-pw one
Well diff class tree but
I think swapping the stuff on the right for TF talent would be good in 2s
what stuff on the rigfht
Like this. TF extension you get pretty much full uptime on TF.
i really dislike circle without veinripper
is my problem
i could see raging fury being better though
There is Writ of Speed and Homebound Speed for cloak
Writ of Speed and Devotion of Speed for bracers also
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been trying this out, what do you guys think
lose moonfire and 12% rip dmg but gain evoke and some extra bite dmg
curious why u went pw with a convoke build for pvp
u still got 1on 1 kill potential with boat convoke
so yea
its fun in bgs
im using it lots for world quest/pvp as well so just nice for the bonus cleave
ya im not a big fan of rot builds, like seeing burst lol
Idk looks fine for questing
Idk if you were expecting this to be good anywhere else tho
trying to find a good convoke build for bgs as well, seems like theres just too much dot dmg that you need swarm
what would you change for a burst build for bgs?
There's no shot putting 2 points in Convoke is good for bgs
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or is that even possible lol
You're either trying to burst someone down 1 on 1
Or you're trying to pad with PW
Convoke won't do anything if you're in the middle of 6 people
I wasnt taking either in bgs tbh
i mean PW is only 1 point either way
ur also taking dcr
so thats 2 po9nts
and ur tkaing tfb
thats 4 points
kinda wasting points up top
INCARN
dcr is there because i need a point that high up lol
monkaTOS
and with envoke i like tfb for the big bites
just take moonfire and 1 tirelessl ol
ur highkey gonna have ur life
if ppl start running away from u
and u cant do anything
and u dont have charge up
For what you want it'd prob be something like this
convoke aint killing shit either way
why is convoke so bad
Tru
whats the reason of it
They made convoke bites only 4cp
they nerfed it
Big nerf
aye
so u cant use the bite wound honor talent
so it was double nerfed
Well
not like it was played but for fast meta
ahhhhh\
it was decent
Convoke also doesnt have +22% damage done during cast and +25% mastery from niya
and that
u cant but like
It's much much weaker than covenant convoke
should almost just go back to rot build lol
the st build in pins
There isnt rot vs burst build like
is fine not a rot only
like feral damage on details is super high
but some of the specs
can outheal it soo easly
like sp
dh
lock
You can take Convoke along with all the dot buffing talents if you want
The only thing you could call burst that is bad to take is taste for blood
It's just really weak and it's better to take the PW upgrade to save 1 point
Convoke is TRASH Bruv
whats the say meta build right now? i havnt done too much looking
It does no damgur
i would take incarn over convoke any day personally
There's no meta people are just fucking around
why would u take inacrn or convoke
i mean, maybe ditch that fucking moonfire and pick one of those
cuz u have 1 point left
Its almost a week face
so why not just take incarn ?
Smh get ur facts right
6% tf
if ur not taking icnarn
More dmg tf
Its carnivore instinct
makes no sense to take 1
Mid is better than cat curiosity to get to sotf circle
also double rake
is a banger
vs melee cleaves
and if u are nelf
big lag sweap
from downtown
did u just
Also
say
If you arent taking LI
KING OF THE FUCKING JUNGLE
I wouldn't take the 20% shred damage either
If you dont want to take LI I'd do this
too bad now we just look like tampons using incarn ep
what are you playing right now face2face?
U can say king of the jungle or u can say ep its fge same
The non-pw build in the pins, diff class tree
And tear instead of veinripper ig
rip n tear is dog
@stray sigil Do you think the two points in sudden ambush is better than heart of the lion?
you think its best not to go bt?
im not sure i dont like BT with incarn personally
feels like u end up delaying dmg or u just dont use bt stacks on it
incarn i just want to send
I guess I was playing some decent differences, this is what I was taking most of the time @latent flume
I think the trade off is either apex for SA or Heart of the Lion for SA
SA cp? Isn't it just damage increase?
and like the rake buff alone makes it super good
u just have to manage it
not that hard
ty
You guys using any WA?
ye
need WA for SA
Don't wanna make my own again this xpac
and bloodtalons
or its unplayable
apex predator wa doesntw ork for me for some reason
Do you guys have a WA link?
tell me if that worked
what guardian build is everyone complaining about on the forums?
I'll check after this BG
"everyones complaining about this ima roll it"
Just like to have a heads up on tuning changes, since we have at least 2 coming, tomorrow, and after 1-2 weeks of s1
"playing strong builds is bad"
except that it's fun?
Play what you want, accept the consequences
^
imagine getting so upset about people playing a game how it was designed to be played ...
Tanks not designed for arena
Imagine getting upset at people making fun of you in a game
fucking guardian player spit
Tanks are anti fun for everyone involved
is there
Yeah u spend rage on fat mauls now
tank players are incapable of playing dps is why they play tanks
look at bung
tries to play ret
dogshit
goes back to prot
every season
Imagine all the bear players who finally had arena click for them when shuffle came out
Bear players are just as annoying to play against as DH
Both specs brain dead
Passively tanky easy rotation
Rf is gone sleeper is gone. Tank shuffles are mostly gone
Who cares let them be happy
Lol, NGL bear in shuffle was too much ... felt like bullying
tank players are incapable of playing classes
For me it is, lol.
that die
so they go dps they look like a bunch of idiots pressing buttons randomly
cuz they are used to it playuing prot
or tank
why tf am i lagging more on my druid than my mage when its on the same serv
weakauras? addons per char?
Meanwhile here I am 1 shotting people and going afk for 2min
zones with the wm wq are laggy ususally
prob why
no idea, i just have 1 weakaura for ui. both Luxthos auras
The annoying part is that when you see a bear, you know he's not capable of using 2 hands at once but you can't beat him because is not allowed to die unless you have 5 players hitting him
I can only kill bears with like insane mind games psyfiend go
ye those players just like not to die
Impossible on feral
U rly like the dragon class pylon
Think y’all are being extra here
Nope
Nopers
It’s the most Fun I’ve ever had
its teh same thing though
In wow
Is it possible 2 see how much delay you have on your spells atm (lag? idk xD)
Guardian finally has rotational interactions between spells man let the people play
maybe with quartz u can see it on the cast bar
MS is good on both chars
true spam maul 3 times
use mangle
@stray sigil Did not seem to work
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
I personally don’t care about tanks, it’s whatever. But it’s just annoying to play against, like other specs
Guardians can play
I think tanks go against the spirit of the game mode in arena. I don’t believe that’s the case in BGs
Just play mythic plus
Azure span is horrendous laggy the whole weekend for everyone
Sometimes obsidian citadel area is too
DH / BM / bears are annoying
Ah im in azure rn maybe thats why @clear pulsar
Yes
And eat my ass while at it
dam i dont have nitro cant post hte whole thing LMFAO
I mean yeah
Deff feels traj to die to a bear because he can't die while he spams thrash on top of you for 2 minutes
There's cobalt assembly farm, there was a wpvp free for all quest right next to it, and the feast event thingy all at once, so it was gone to shit unforch
Thrash doesnt do damage
Azure spam is a disaster for lag for sure
Maul slaps
Literally 30-40% of my damage in any pvp situation as bear is just from people hitting me during rage of the sleepr
Which has like a 15% uptime
So like
Dying to thrash is tragic considering it hits like a wet noodle

Aren’t you immune to cc during that?
Like idk if you know how the spells work you don't die yes?
No not cc immune
No more CC immune for sleeper
yeah, 40-50% of my overall damage is often sleeper. People refuse to learn and I love it
Bear not cc immune ?
Shambles
RIP Sleeper, RIP
Unplayable
Dying to thrash damage tho ecks dee bro
Idk some people just like to complain about everything
Like how feral was only good in prepatch cuz of borrowed power as if other specs didnt get any
Classes that I don’t play are stupid and op
they see big numbers in BGs and assume bear is walking around one shotting everyong
Cry cry cry cry nothing but CRYING
Feral traj
meanwhile - i ever amazed at people actively popping big burst cds during sleeper. So fkn funny watching DH/Monks/Arcane Mages kill themselves during it
feral/boom still have value in being more bursty ... guardian is just massively strong in teamfights for pressure
over guardian yeah
the only thing guardian provides is CC/interupts if no one is actively attacking them
maybe some ok maul damage during incarn
nah, you can easily put up more damage than just about anyone else ... just need target near you
WWs love suiciding on rots
Pls get out tank players
pls stop being mean to the best druid spec
Maul during incarn is good damage yeah
But like
Once you go against people that don't spam literally every global from every player on you for the 10s of rots
Feral is just better
I mean if ur talking team fights then whatever
Rbgs is just pve
I'm not mad about rbgs
Powerful ability
so rage of the sleeper is the op thing
Yeah
Between rots and brambles, damage reflection can easily be >40% of your dmg breakdown
good to know
And there's no more cc immune
I should find out about these things before wondering why im dying to a fucking guardian
nah, you'll just die less 😉
dont spread that info! im having way to much fun watching people kill themselves
lmao
They’re here to stay just gotta deal with it 😂. Don’t forget shuffle will be an easy 3 vault for PVErs interested in 9 vaulting for shots at tier. So
well this looks reportable
🤷♂️
whats reportable lol
i dont really look at details in a bg no
Ngl to u i only enabled details a few days ago cuz i couldnt be arsed to update it so ye not rly looking at it
I look at my own breakdown and death recap sometimes if I get clapped randomly. But BGs I don’t care
Idk like
If somebody is destroying the teamfight
I wanna look at the breakdown and see what it is yes?
No?
I cant
wouldnt know i dont do teamfights
so i do not care
Like idk just any bit of curiosity for how to deal with other specs?
I enjoy the authentic wow experience of using no addons

Guardian RBG build I'm using. BgGAYhlYdy9RJ6ROrphOEi69vCAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSikSSKJJJJJAIFKCAJIIhIJJBJSRAOAAAAAAARAA ... Non-toxic thoughts/feedback welcome!
i cringed a little

but
Yeah
I wonder if feral will be decent for rbg

prevoker surely will

Not taking maul talents
That's the goal, this would be for flag carry
who cares about maul when everyone just kills themselves anyways
I mean why even bother going over min maxing builds if the expectation is you’re playing morons
everyone playing at a decent RBG level is decent ... gotta minmax at some point
Eventually people will learn not to hit into sleeper. Then what
you'll live longer?
are the builds i alternate between. dream can be fun when you practically full heal someone with a 240k regrowth
This but with circle instead of 2nd SI charge
This build makes more sense to me
Yeah same alternating between a pure dam and a regrowth build for shits and giggles
circle is amaze ...
yeah circle is great
buffs rage gen, more self heal, more dam, ore healing ... crazy for one talent

stare at them menacingly until they do
BF is nuts for damage as well if you're in a team fight
@stray sigil u pick an alt yet
ive been tinkering around with this in WPVP but I can't really comment on it since most people are undergeared/pve players. Been fun controlling the arena in the plains for a few hours a day lol
Really hard to tell how strong guardian is ... started to go into 1v3s confidently tho :p
Honestly between AtWF and Elunes Favored it feels like it has more self sustain than ever ... in SL you could die after you ran out of FR charges vs a dps or two ... now, doesn't seem to happen as much, at least in the randoms I've played.
I've had issues staying alive against other equally geared classes like DH, rogues, mages, shams outside of defensives/FR.
think taking more defensives is the play ... you can just outlast anyone.
BLEEEEEEEEEACH
Thank god iPod is here
I’d rather read about bleach than bear
nop
It’s the shield one that’s good
ye i thought would be ok in pve
Try stand in pvp zone and check out how many ppl you can hold
It procced a ton for me when I was healing keys
Man iam so hyped
Oh u finished the cobalt grind then huh

We farm framings
I can’t believe some of y’all are doing those rep grinds. Impressive
ima prob do that one after cobalt
cobalts not really hard lol
Idk maybe I should too. I’m prob gonna 1 trick for awhile
Already done leveling and gearing 3 toons
No interest in a 4th
Except maybe an alt druid

@edgy shale no better feeling in life after a workout sit down with a full plate of food to watch bleach
My wife got into me last night, she’s like “ok, let’s take it easy on the gaming for a little”
Lol
My wife gave me a week. I got incredible amounts of latitude lol. Way more than I expected
But I prepared her about this for months
Yea, my week is up. Rofl
We press on
Last week was magical 
👎🏻
🤬 🤬 🤬
true
so you have to do the campaign to get a spark of ingenuity
A specific quest line from what I understand
If u figure it out let me know I need to get the sparks on my paladin and evoker
Ok pykan you cant be saying that ok?
Therazal square in the middle of valdrakken should have the quest for you
It's called Learning Ingenuity
The start of it
Perfect thx
I’m assuming if I completed the campaign on druid
I can just pick up on alt
oh good
And from what I read we expect to have 2 for season start
Why?
Puzzle when you find out how much gold I need to buy the stuff I need let me know plz
Pvp boots cost me around 25k gold total I think
I don’t hate anyone here face, nor do I take anything personal. It’s just really distracting at times and I have to make sure I get shit done lol. I was spending all day in here sometimes

Got some side stuff I want to build and I can’t be bantering in here all day
I hear you bro I don't disagree
Sometimes it's hard to get tone across in text so it may sound like you're more upset than you really are, or me too ofc
I just like to shoot the shit too much
I am mad always
I can only handle so much nonsense
Must be an age thing
Go jim
Must be cause I feel the same sometimes lol
"Progress doesn’t travel a straight line, but instead zigs and zags in fits and starts.” - Obama
Ok guardian druid

What is obama's last name
???
Obama obama pog
TRUUUUU
Truuuu
Also i need roids
David do roids with me
they help
👎
Pussy
Crazy old man
TBH tho ... trying to progress a lift every single time is the worst way to actually progress.
Silly tank player
hi is any of the crafted gear for pvp bis for feral?
As far as I could work out max crafted level is 382, so ... no, any pvp gear will be way better in pvp.
The one with 5% cc reduction
Nah you need one piece from craft
Crafted pvp gear is 424 in pvp
Which is the same as conquest but it's time locked by sparks of ingenuity
what? nice!
glorious
Did you know that makes you not able to warstomp clone
Once again tauren druids are shit
Just put an order in EP. It’s relatively cheap
EP will never pay his workers
Haymaker superiority
Boomkin range haymaker clone
good luck getting recipe
@livid wasp need daily bg win
Ep ur sham fully gear?
I log go bg or skirmer?
so ... can only get the 5% pvp thing on feet/head slot? You went feet for optimal stats down the road?
lol
ya know, ima leave that there, mistakes were made
Anyone tested the +1% dmg bonus? Assuming it doesn't stack
as in +1% per enemy
You dont gain a 1% dmg buff period
You gain 1% dmg against enemies that attack you
So multiple enemies would just all get
1% dmg
To each individual one
right on, thx
no reason not to get that as well as the boots though, right?
what other 'embelished' item would you get?
why does it feel like others have like 350k+ hp and im sittin around 270k. only missing rings/trinks, are they that big of a difference?
Trinket bonus
probably super dumb question, but do i thrash in pvp?
when playing with bt you occasionally have to if brutal slash is on cd
im taking mas vers
3ilvl is noting
ye
u will see
2x sub in 2s
yo guys! have you experienced an issue, when you cannot cast thrash or rake on arenas as feral?
might be a addon error
just reload maybe
notsure
@viscid remnant what, i cannot use ability, im not asking about rotation dude
ah
MYBAD
its probably some addon
alot of addons randomly stop u being able to press buttons
but game tells me that "You cannot use this ability now" or some dumb shit like that
what does it say exactly
w8, gonna focus on that message
did u pick up talents
Huh
This Dragonflight Tailoring leveling guide will help you to level your Tailoring skill up from 1 to 100.
scroll down
if its cloth
what u are looking for
ye cant do nothing
it will be okay
U talking primal chaos?
rog boring
cant heal
but mayb i could try assa
but i also cba
ok did they fix
the spark for alts?
i dont have to do the chromie
it unlocked somehow
doing those shit chromie quests
Hahahaha this expansion is so bis for alts
cool cool
dragonflight hella pog!?!??!??
SO BIS MANNN
This means
to a sub in half kidney
I can just level more alts
alt soon full gear too
big pog!
if gearing stays like this
europe will see a lot of Machtig Leider in blue
Easy solution I will also be a rogue and kill people in half of a kidney
LSevoker when?
i like it
me when my smurf gets too much rating
U can do ranged tyr’s deliverance build i guess
How many warriors will mud have
seems ok ye
disc and holy feels so boprng
I mean tbf EP I’m rdru main
disc feels a bit new this expansion
some more buttons
with renew and pom and different shield mechanic
also no radience
I was watching I think lontar’s wargames with whazz against meh
at least rdru cant die
POM was doing like 30% of Meh’s healing
and dont have mana bar
if u meld for drinks u are vegan
Yeah POM is kinda nuts looking at mehs breakdown
but he was holy or disc
do i send ww next
He was holy
Mother fuckers are making world quests daily again
Bi weekly was so good
what u talking about
World quests were previously showing up once every 3 days
Now they are everyday again
w/e
The non pvp WQ
no one do them
WHO CARES
i do
I wouldn’t worry fuji
Suspect there’ll be weekly quests as time goes on that gets us there easy anywya
The degen obsidian grind was just to do it early
the wq reset daily starting tomorrow ?
Assuming so. Wonder if this means we get more rep overall and get thru renown faster
big booba?
o wow
they really nmerfed
the wrthion shit
good
idk im watching suffres team wg whazz play rspevoker
Superphysiological milkers
def looks like some ccancer
TRUE
Holyshit man
fuji ur missing out on massive milkers bro
anyone got link to feral pvp talents to start
na he need to touch some grass
Hows guardian in casual pvp?
Blizzard says slow the fuck down. They say “no”
are we getting a creation catalyst to apply tier bonsues to pvp gear or do we want to use the token set that has bonuses
Token set bonus doesnt work in arena and bg
none of them?
???
Losing incarn / convoke worth it for this spec?
Also what happened to the debate between Heart of the lion vs SA
There will be catalyst yes.
no dont think so
Agreed
his spec like a non pw cleave spec looks like
I like that idea, but how much DPS is apex
Because the question becomes
Which one is more DPS, SA or Apex I guess
I'd assume SA
i mean SA def more dmg than apex over a game is u single bleed
prob even in cleave its more
I‘m rusty on these abbreviations. What‘s SA?
Sorry, I dislike abbreviating everything too haha
I think it's super arbitrary and there's so many abbreviations
DCR?
double rake
I don't think double rake is worth in 3s / 2s yea?
Apex has to be really good into these pet specs tho. I‘d definitely go with some kind of primal wrath+apex spec into that
Keep biting the lock
God, I wish matter fur was better. Would be so comfy this xpac
yes
Yeah you'd just run an AOE build at that point I think
wld be a completely different build
would prob play the pw build ye
Primal Wrath + Double Rake + Apex + Rampant Ferocity
im not sold on rampant ferocity being better than SA still in cleave situations tbh
Kinda disappointed with the entire feral talents.
Class tree is AWFUL.
Feral there is very little choice
Don‘t know about rampant ferocity. I don‘t want to kill the pet, i want to let it live for rip uptime
is their a voke ferla build or we gotta play bees
convoke a dead meme
anything other then bees
If you don't play swarm you're trolling
Depends what ur fighting
bg and world pvp atm
Strength every game, leader every game in 3s
leader all the time
gonna go farm tokens
Play claws and thorns
imo
Also what I run
For open world stuff this is what I'm running
More focus on PvE
because it is rare I run into people
@viscid remnant back to my issue with thrash, midfiight it says "Target need to be in front of you" on thrash ability. Seems like changing form helps but still, weird
thats odd cuz thrash doesnt need a target
2 min voke is too long
That's incarn




