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grand mesa
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Nah we’ve been getting clapped more lately now Thag horde caught up with gear

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I just spend those games practicing healing shit that’s pretty unhealable lol

astral ginkgo
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whats the best enchants for Feral pvp?

grand mesa
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See what buttons work better for taking giga dam

tepid spoke
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Temporal anomaly is goof in bgs

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With the echo talent

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It applies lifebind at full power iirc

grand mesa
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I haven’t fucked with temp anomaly yet

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@tepid spoke are u raiding in DF

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Or full pvp Andy

tepid spoke
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Pvp

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And m+

livid wasp
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im trying to do as much dmg at the same time im healing

tepid spoke
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My guild finishes at 1 am

grand mesa
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Bis playstyle imo

tepid spoke
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Too late for me

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I am going to bed 12 max

grand mesa
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I wish I liked m+ more

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Maybe if rdru is clear meta and it’s not terrible getting into groups

tepid spoke
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Its good

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When you have to heal

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After everyone is overgeared and shit

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Is shit

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Cuz no damage

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And u gotta do the dps role

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Thats shit imo

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Rlp is gonna be a blast

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Every pull is 60k hps angle

viscid remnant
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No pve

grand mesa
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I like the weaving dps and healing

livid wasp
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idk how I do 10 m healing and enemy evoker did 16m

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doesnt even feel like theres much to heal

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if everyones full hp why shouldnt I just be doing dps

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like I got no time to react

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when I get bursted in 2 sec

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wtf should I do

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this community feast is so shit

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no timer for it

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I went there didnt get credit

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idk how im supposed to get it done

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apparently had to get some weakaura to get the timer for the event

quiet atlas
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Now that you have played it a bit, is balance dead in arena like many streamers predicted?

tepid spoke
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who is played it a bit

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i wouldnt say dead

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but its bad yes

grand mesa
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It’s right there

spark breach
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Anyone have a balance pvp spec I can use? Couldn't find one in pins

tepid spoke
spark breach
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Ty

tepid spoke
plucky basin
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if you want a good laugh - get an arcane mage to you attack you with sleeper on. It's been a long time since I last saw someone kill themselves on a bear lmfao

amber snow
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There was a point where rage of the sleeper granted cc immunity, right? Can't see it in changelog now.

haughty compass
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Feral is insane not sure what the problem is

grand mesa
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It never granted CC immunity in beta from what I understand. The tooltip just said it did

stray sigil
pliant forge
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can i get some opinions on taking convoke as feral

potent meadow
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I like it, even only the 2min version if you can fit the point

pliant forge
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is incarn any better or nah

haughty compass
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Very good consistent dmg, very tanky. I think feral gonna be a menace in arena

amber snow
potent meadow
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im not a big fan of incarn tbh. Maybe if you had a lot of uptime the longer frenzy could be nice. Or maybe for RBG not sure. Convoke is a great pressure CD or emergency heal

quiet atlas
amber snow
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can't clone cap now ... makes them an even more a budget rogue

potent meadow
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now that the boots and trinkets give you 15% cc redux you cannot warstomp -> clone either

clear pulsar
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I think feral owns too pykan

stray sigil
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@clear pulsar

quiet atlas
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Hmm true. But I guess their aoe with star fall is good and they can still co-cap with a rogue

stray sigil
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did u look at my st build

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ipod said to take apex cuz good 1 pointer

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is it better than taking cdr reduc on incarn

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or even in incarn proc thing

clear pulsar
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I think so

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Incarn proc is dogwater

stray sigil
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cuz ideally i would like to take the icnarn cdr no ?

clear pulsar
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Cdr idk

stray sigil
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but i cant

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cuz then i wouldnt be able to take ff

clear pulsar
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Maybe but I think it's not very good value when you get giga ccd or downtime from bear form etc

stray sigil
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has to be better consistently than apex no ?

viscid remnant
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Feji = freanzyband lover

stray sigil
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i mean

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its the only thing that ressembles

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a cd for us david

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lol

clear pulsar
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If you can maintain 2 Rips apex procs a ton already

stray sigil
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ye but my st build is like a 2s maybe jungle build

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u wont be cleaving that hard i dont think

clear pulsar
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True

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Maybe for 2s yeah cdr

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Cuz way more uptime

wooden holly
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is there a basic guide out there I am considering leveling I haven't played a ton of feral in a while

clear pulsar
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But in 2s convoke might even be a play

stray sigil
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unless u think i can save points somewhere else ?

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and keep apex and get cdr

clear pulsar
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No I think if you're doing mostly just st damage apex not worth

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I'm running the same build you pinned non-pw one

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Well diff class tree but

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I think swapping the stuff on the right for TF talent would be good in 2s

stray sigil
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what stuff on the rigfht

storm berry
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which enchant is this?

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I mean name

clear pulsar
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Like this. TF extension you get pretty much full uptime on TF.

stray sigil
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i really dislike circle without veinripper

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is my problem

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i could see raging fury being better though

viscid remnant
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Ok

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Ty for the information

clear pulsar
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Writ of Speed and Devotion of Speed for bracers also

latent flume
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BcGAYhlYdy9RJ6ROrphOEi69vCAAAAAAIIFkISSiUSjkWSSikAAAAAAgiAgAIJJSSSQCtEQCAAAAAAIBA

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been trying this out, what do you guys think

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lose moonfire and 12% rip dmg but gain evoke and some extra bite dmg

stray sigil
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curious why u went pw with a convoke build for pvp

tepid spoke
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so yea

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its fun in bgs

latent flume
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im using it lots for world quest/pvp as well so just nice for the bonus cleave

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ya im not a big fan of rot builds, like seeing burst lol

clear pulsar
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Idk looks fine for questing

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Idk if you were expecting this to be good anywhere else tho

latent flume
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trying to find a good convoke build for bgs as well, seems like theres just too much dot dmg that you need swarm

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what would you change for a burst build for bgs?

clear pulsar
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There's no shot putting 2 points in Convoke is good for bgs

latent flume
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stray sigil
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tkae my st build

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and put convoke

latent flume
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or is that even possible lol

stray sigil
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instead of incarn

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and like remove apex

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for imp convoke

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there

clear pulsar
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You're either trying to burst someone down 1 on 1

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Or you're trying to pad with PW

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Convoke won't do anything if you're in the middle of 6 people

stray sigil
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i think incarns better to burst someone down anyways imo

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dr stun is nice

clear pulsar
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I wasnt taking either in bgs tbh

latent flume
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i mean PW is only 1 point either way

stray sigil
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ur also taking dcr

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so thats 2 po9nts

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and ur tkaing tfb

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thats 4 points

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kinda wasting points up top

lime light
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INCARN

latent flume
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dcr is there because i need a point that high up lol

lime light
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monkaTOS

latent flume
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and with envoke i like tfb for the big bites

stray sigil
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just take moonfire and 1 tirelessl ol

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ur highkey gonna have ur life

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if ppl start running away from u

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and u cant do anything

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and u dont have charge up

clear pulsar
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For what you want it'd prob be something like this

stray sigil
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think he rmoves apex

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and goes for the 1min convoke maybe

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but ye

clear pulsar
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Babyvoke aint killing shit man

stray sigil
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convoke aint killing shit either way

lime light
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why is convoke so bad

clear pulsar
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Tru

lime light
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whats the reason of it

clear pulsar
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They made convoke bites only 4cp

stray sigil
clear pulsar
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Big nerf

lime light
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aye

stray sigil
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its 4p now

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and bite was nerfed

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on the same patch

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iirc

lime light
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so u cant use the bite wound honor talent

stray sigil
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so it was double nerfed

clear pulsar
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Well

lime light
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not like it was played but for fast meta

latent flume
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ahhhhh\

lime light
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it was decent

clear pulsar
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Convoke also doesnt have +22% damage done during cast and +25% mastery from niya

stray sigil
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and that

stray sigil
clear pulsar
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It's much much weaker than covenant convoke

stray sigil
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pack is mandatory pretty much

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wound is nice to have

latent flume
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should almost just go back to rot build lol

stray sigil
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the st build in pins

clear pulsar
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There isnt rot vs burst build like

stray sigil
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is fine not a rot only

lime light
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like feral damage on details is super high

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but some of the specs

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can outheal it soo easly

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like sp

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dh

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lock

clear pulsar
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You can take Convoke along with all the dot buffing talents if you want

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The only thing you could call burst that is bad to take is taste for blood

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It's just really weak and it's better to take the PW upgrade to save 1 point

viscid remnant
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Convoke is TRASH Bruv

latent flume
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whats the say meta build right now? i havnt done too much looking

viscid remnant
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It does no damgur

stray sigil
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i would take incarn over convoke any day personally

clear pulsar
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There's no meta people are just fucking around

lime light
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why would u take inacrn or convoke

clear pulsar
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It's 5 days of pre-season

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Random bg spam

lime light
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i mean, maybe ditch that fucking moonfire and pick one of those

stray sigil
viscid remnant
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Its almost a week face

stray sigil
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so why not just take incarn ?

viscid remnant
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Smh get ur facts right

clear pulsar
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I think 1 point in CI is better than incarn tbh

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Not gonna lie to you

stray sigil
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na

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dont think so

lime light
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what is CI

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the energy regen

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or more dmg on tf

clear pulsar
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6% tf

stray sigil
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if ur not taking icnarn

viscid remnant
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More dmg tf

stray sigil
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no point going mid

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so just take 2 in ci

viscid remnant
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Its carnivore instinct

stray sigil
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makes no sense to take 1

clear pulsar
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Mid is better than cat curiosity to get to sotf circle

lime light
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also double rake

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is a banger

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vs melee cleaves

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and if u are nelf

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big lag sweap

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from downtown

stray sigil
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dotn even need to be nelf

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just take incarn

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u can do the same thing

lime light
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did u just

clear pulsar
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Also

lime light
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say

clear pulsar
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If you arent taking LI

lime light
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KING OF THE FUCKING JUNGLE

clear pulsar
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I wouldn't take the 20% shred damage either

lime light
clear pulsar
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If you dont want to take LI I'd do this

stray sigil
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too bad now we just look like tampons using incarn ep

latent flume
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what are you playing right now face2face?

viscid remnant
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U can say king of the jungle or u can say ep its fge same

clear pulsar
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And tear instead of veinripper ig

lime light
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i hate tear

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it does no dam

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no?

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idk

stray sigil
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rip n tear is dog

woeful spade
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@stray sigil Do you think the two points in sudden ambush is better than heart of the lion?

stray sigil
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just take off apex

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and put it there

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ill prob update it agian

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SA is very good

clear pulsar
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I think if you're taking incarn it makes sense to take all the berserk nodes

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Ig

stray sigil
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i wouldnt drop SA tho

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prob the best node up top

livid wasp
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you think its best not to go bt?

stray sigil
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im not sure i dont like BT with incarn personally

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feels like u end up delaying dmg or u just dont use bt stacks on it

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incarn i just want to send

clear pulsar
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I guess I was playing some decent differences, this is what I was taking most of the time @latent flume

woeful spade
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I think the trade off is either apex for SA or Heart of the Lion for SA

stray sigil
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nono

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SA is so much free cp

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and rake is giga nowadays

woeful spade
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SA cp? Isn't it just damage increase?

stray sigil
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ye but

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if u use it on shred

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it acts as stealth

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so its 2 cp

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3 if crit

woeful spade
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ahh

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I c

stray sigil
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and like the rake buff alone makes it super good

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u just have to manage it

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not that hard

clear pulsar
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At 10% per cp it procs so much

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It's rly nice

stray sigil
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50% on every finisher

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is SUPER nice

clear pulsar
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Damn feji you rly good at math

stray sigil
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ty

woeful spade
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You guys using any WA?

stray sigil
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ye

livid wasp
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need WA for SA

woeful spade
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Don't wanna make my own again this xpac

livid wasp
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and bloodtalons

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or its unplayable

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apex predator wa doesntw ork for me for some reason

clear pulsar
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Bite button just glows

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On apex

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But it's diff spell id I guess

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From SL one

stray sigil
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ya idk i dont track apex

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i track SA bt and ps mostly

woeful spade
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Do you guys have a WA link?

stray sigil
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tell me if that worked

thorn sorrel
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what guardian build is everyone complaining about on the forums?

woeful spade
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I'll check after this BG

livid wasp
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"everyones complaining about this ima roll it"

thorn sorrel
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Just like to have a heads up on tuning changes, since we have at least 2 coming, tomorrow, and after 1-2 weeks of s1

amber snow
safe heart
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No

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Playing tanks is bad

amber snow
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except that it's fun?

haughty compass
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Play what you want, accept the consequences

stray sigil
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yep play tank if u want

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but i play vs u i will spit and lol at u

haughty compass
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^

amber snow
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imagine getting so upset about people playing a game how it was designed to be played ...

safe heart
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Tanks not designed for arena

haughty compass
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Imagine getting upset at people making fun of you in a game

livid wasp
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fucking guardian player spit

safe heart
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Tanks are anti fun for everyone involved

amber snow
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i'm not, it's just sad

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there are better things to spend your rage on

stray sigil
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is there

grand mesa
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Yeah u spend rage on fat mauls now

stray sigil
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tank players are incapable of playing dps is why they play tanks

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look at bung

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tries to play ret

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dogshit

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goes back to prot

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every season

safe heart
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Imagine all the bear players who finally had arena click for them when shuffle came out

haughty compass
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Bear players are just as annoying to play against as DH

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Both specs brain dead

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Passively tanky easy rotation

grand mesa
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Rf is gone sleeper is gone. Tank shuffles are mostly gone

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Who cares let them be happy

stray sigil
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its not even the rotation

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its that

amber snow
stray sigil
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tank players are incapable of playing classes

haughty compass
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For me it is, lol.

stray sigil
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that die

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so they go dps they look like a bunch of idiots pressing buttons randomly

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cuz they are used to it playuing prot

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or tank

fickle oxide
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why tf am i lagging more on my druid than my mage when its on the same serv

amber snow
haughty compass
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Meanwhile here I am 1 shotting people and going afk for 2min

stray sigil
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prob why

fickle oxide
safe heart
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The annoying part is that when you see a bear, you know he's not capable of using 2 hands at once but you can't beat him because is not allowed to die unless you have 5 players hitting him

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I can only kill bears with like insane mind games psyfiend go

stray sigil
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ye those players just like not to die

safe heart
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Impossible on feral

viscid remnant
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U rly like the dragon class pylon

grand mesa
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Think y’all are being extra here

viscid remnant
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Nope

grand mesa
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Tanks in arena is one thing

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Who cares about tanks in BGs

viscid remnant
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Nopers

haughty compass
stray sigil
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its teh same thing though

haughty compass
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In wow

stray sigil
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im talking abotu why they play tnaks

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not in arena specifically

fickle oxide
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Is it possible 2 see how much delay you have on your spells atm (lag? idk xD)

clear pulsar
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Guardian finally has rotational interactions between spells man let the people play

stray sigil
fickle oxide
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MS is good on both chars

stray sigil
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use mangle

woeful spade
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@stray sigil Did not seem to work

stray sigil
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XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

haughty compass
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I personally don’t care about tanks, it’s whatever. But it’s just annoying to play against, like other specs

safe heart
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Guardians can play

grand mesa
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I think tanks go against the spirit of the game mode in arena. I don’t believe that’s the case in BGs

safe heart
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Just play mythic plus

clear pulsar
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Sometimes obsidian citadel area is too

haughty compass
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DH / BM / bears are annoying

fickle oxide
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Ah im in azure rn maybe thats why @clear pulsar

clear pulsar
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Man yall just salty you can't kill my 600k hp bear

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Cry me a goddamn OCEAN BROTHERS

haughty compass
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Yes

clear pulsar
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And eat my ass while at it

stray sigil
safe heart
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I mean yeah
Deff feels traj to die to a bear because he can't die while he spams thrash on top of you for 2 minutes

clear pulsar
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Thrash doesnt do damage

grand mesa
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Azure spam is a disaster for lag for sure

haughty compass
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Maul slaps

clear pulsar
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Literally 30-40% of my damage in any pvp situation as bear is just from people hitting me during rage of the sleepr

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Which has like a 15% uptime

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So like

plucky basin
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Dying to thrash is tragic considering it hits like a wet noodle

clear pulsar
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Stop hitting me during my cd

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And cc it out?

stray sigil
haughty compass
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Aren’t you immune to cc during that?

clear pulsar
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Like idk if you know how the spells work you don't die yes?

stray sigil
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u have like 15 interrupts as bear

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with pvp talents

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fuk u mean

clear pulsar
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No not cc immune

grand mesa
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No more CC immune for sleeper

plucky basin
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yeah, 40-50% of my overall damage is often sleeper. People refuse to learn and I love it

safe heart
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Bear not cc immune ?
Shambles

amber snow
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RIP Sleeper, RIP

haughty compass
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Unplayable

clear pulsar
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Idk some people just like to complain about everything

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Like how feral was only good in prepatch cuz of borrowed power as if other specs didnt get any

haughty compass
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Classes that I don’t play are stupid and op

plucky basin
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they see big numbers in BGs and assume bear is walking around one shotting everyong

clear pulsar
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Cry cry cry cry nothing but CRYING

safe heart
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Feral traj

plucky basin
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meanwhile - i ever amazed at people actively popping big burst cds during sleeper. So fkn funny watching DH/Monks/Arcane Mages kill themselves during it

amber snow
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feral/boom still have value in being more bursty ... guardian is just massively strong in teamfights for pressure

safe heart
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Feral burst

amber snow
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over guardian yeah

plucky basin
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the only thing guardian provides is CC/interupts if no one is actively attacking them

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maybe some ok maul damage during incarn

amber snow
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nah, you can easily put up more damage than just about anyone else ... just need target near you

viscid remnant
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Did they rename this channel

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Bearpvp

clear pulsar
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WWs love suiciding on rots

viscid remnant
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Pls get out tank players

amber snow
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pls stop being mean to the best druid spec

clear pulsar
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Maul during incarn is good damage yeah

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But like

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Once you go against people that don't spam literally every global from every player on you for the 10s of rots

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Feral is just better

safe heart
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I mean if ur talking team fights then whatever
Rbgs is just pve

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I'm not mad about rbgs

clear pulsar
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Yes but you are also apparently dying to Thrash so

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You do you

safe heart
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Powerful ability

livid wasp
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so rage of the sleeper is the op thing

clear pulsar
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Yeah

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Between rots and brambles, damage reflection can easily be >40% of your dmg breakdown

livid wasp
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good to know

clear pulsar
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And there's no more cc immune

livid wasp
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I should find out about these things before wondering why im dying to a fucking guardian

safe heart
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Now we know

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And we can finally defeat raid boss guardian druid

amber snow
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nah, you'll just die less 😉

plucky basin
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dont spread that info! im having way to much fun watching people kill themselves

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lmao

grand mesa
amber snow
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well this looks reportable

grand mesa
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🤷‍♂️

stray sigil
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whats reportable lol

clear pulsar
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Do you guys not play with details or

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Like 0 curiosity?

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Or cant read idk

stray sigil
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i dont really look at details in a bg no

viscid remnant
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Ngl to u i only enabled details a few days ago cuz i couldnt be arsed to update it so ye not rly looking at it

grand mesa
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I look at my own breakdown and death recap sometimes if I get clapped randomly. But BGs I don’t care

clear pulsar
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Idk like

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If somebody is destroying the teamfight

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I wanna look at the breakdown and see what it is yes?

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No?

tropic schooner
stray sigil
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so i do not care

clear pulsar
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Like idk just any bit of curiosity for how to deal with other specs?

tropic schooner
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imo not having any way to check dmg done is inting

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checking deaths etc

hushed ember
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I enjoy the authentic wow experience of using no addons

tropic schooner
amber snow
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Guardian RBG build I'm using. BgGAYhlYdy9RJ6ROrphOEi69vCAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSikSSKJJJJJAIFKCAJIIhIJJBJSRAOAAAAAAARAA ... Non-toxic thoughts/feedback welcome!

clear pulsar
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Garbanzo build

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What are you taking defensive tlaents for

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You're unkillable

plucky basin
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i cringed a little

stray sigil
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i t9ld u

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he just

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doesnt want to die

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thats why he plays tank

clear pulsar
plucky basin
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but

clear pulsar
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Yeah

livid wasp
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I wonder if feral will be decent for rbg

stray sigil
livid wasp
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prevoker surely will

plucky basin
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I RESPECT THE CHOICE BROTHER

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BE AS FUCKING FAT AS POSSIBLE

clear pulsar
grand mesa
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Not taking maul talents

amber snow
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That's the goal, this would be for flag carry

plucky basin
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who cares about maul when everyone just kills themselves anyways

clear pulsar
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What if they don't, you just maul their face in for 40k each

stray sigil
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listen

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i just want to say

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i was right

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thats all

grand mesa
amber snow
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everyone playing at a decent RBG level is decent ... gotta minmax at some point

grand mesa
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Eventually people will learn not to hit into sleeper. Then what

amber snow
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you'll live longer?

plucky basin
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are the builds i alternate between. dream can be fun when you practically full heal someone with a 240k regrowth

clear pulsar
grand mesa
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This build makes more sense to me

clear pulsar
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Yeah same alternating between a pure dam and a regrowth build for shits and giggles

amber snow
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circle is amaze ...

plucky basin
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yeah circle is great

amber snow
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buffs rage gen, more self heal, more dam, ore healing ... crazy for one talent

plucky basin
amber snow
grand mesa
#

@stray sigil u pick an alt yet

plucky basin
amber snow
#

Really hard to tell how strong guardian is ... started to go into 1v3s confidently tho :p

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Honestly between AtWF and Elunes Favored it feels like it has more self sustain than ever ... in SL you could die after you ran out of FR charges vs a dps or two ... now, doesn't seem to happen as much, at least in the randoms I've played.

plucky basin
#

I've had issues staying alive against other equally geared classes like DH, rogues, mages, shams outside of defensives/FR.

amber snow
#

think taking more defensives is the play ... you can just outlast anyone.

edgy shale
#

@bleach

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wait

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@sour quarry @viscid remnant bleach

viscid remnant
#

Te

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Iam making food

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And watching

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In like 2mins i watch

edgy shale
#

BLEEEEEEEEEACH

viscid remnant
grand mesa
#

Thank god iPod is here

grand mesa
#

I’d rather read about bleach than bear

stray sigil
grand mesa
#

Curious if dk will actually be as dumpstered

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As they say

stray sigil
#

that uh

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cobalt ring

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dmg one

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is garbanzo actually

grand mesa
#

It’s the shield one that’s good

stray sigil
#

ye i thought would be ok in pve

pallid temple
stray sigil
#

since i dont have pve rings

#

but that shit dont proc

grand mesa
#

It procced a ton for me when I was healing keys

stray sigil
#

its averaging 1 proc per boss

#

lol

viscid remnant
#

Man iam so hyped

grand mesa
#

Oh u finished the cobalt grind then huh

stray sigil
#

na

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i need 6.4k more

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for maximum'

grand mesa
#

Oh 4/5

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Yeah

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Will you join me in obsidian citadel

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😈

stray sigil
grand mesa
#

We farm framings

haughty compass
#

I can’t believe some of y’all are doing those rep grinds. Impressive

stray sigil
#

ima prob do that one after cobalt

grand mesa
#

It’s that or farm the super rares

#

Idk this coming week will be weird

stray sigil
haughty compass
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Idk maybe I should too. I’m prob gonna 1 trick for awhile

grand mesa
#

Already done leveling and gearing 3 toons

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No interest in a 4th

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Except maybe an alt druid

pallid temple
viscid remnant
#

@edgy shale no better feeling in life after a workout sit down with a full plate of food to watch bleach

haughty compass
#

My wife got into me last night, she’s like “ok, let’s take it easy on the gaming for a little”

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Lol

grand mesa
#

But I prepared her about this for months

haughty compass
#

Yea, my week is up. Rofl

grand mesa
#

Yeah back to no more day gaming

haughty compass
#

We press on

grand mesa
#

Last week was magical angrycri

viscid remnant
#

this week even better

#

BLEACH

grand mesa
#

👎🏻

viscid remnant
#

🤬 🤬 🤬

edgy shale
#

true

viscid remnant
#

man this opening

livid wasp
#

so you have to do the campaign to get a spark of ingenuity

grand mesa
#

A specific quest line from what I understand

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If u figure it out let me know I need to get the sparks on my paladin and evoker

clear pulsar
clear pulsar
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It's called Learning Ingenuity

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The start of it

grand mesa
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Perfect thx

#

I’m assuming if I completed the campaign on druid

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I can just pick up on alt

livid wasp
#

oh good

grand mesa
#

And from what I read we expect to have 2 for season start

haughty compass
safe heart
#

Puzzle when you find out how much gold I need to buy the stuff I need let me know plz

grand mesa
#

For what

#

Pvp boots?

viscid remnant
#

@edgy shale holyshit the woman from squad 0

#

holy moly

clear pulsar
#

Pvp boots cost me around 25k gold total I think

grand mesa
#

They’re very cheap enji

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Atleast for leather

haughty compass
#

I don’t hate anyone here face, nor do I take anything personal. It’s just really distracting at times and I have to make sure I get shit done lol. I was spending all day in here sometimes

grand mesa
#

#pvp is distracting for sure

stray sigil
haughty compass
#

Got some side stuff I want to build and I can’t be bantering in here all day

clear pulsar
#

Sometimes it's hard to get tone across in text so it may sound like you're more upset than you really are, or me too ofc

#

I just like to shoot the shit too much

safe heart
#

I am mad always

haughty compass
#

I can only handle so much nonsense

clear pulsar
#

Must be an age thing

tepid spoke
#

Go jim

grand mesa
#

Must be cause I feel the same sometimes lol

grand mesa
#

Didn’t do shit all launch week

tepid spoke
#

Man

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I didnt progress this week on my shoulder press

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Feels bad

#

Even deprogressed VerySadCat

amber snow
#

"Progress doesn’t travel a straight line, but instead zigs and zags in fits and starts.” - Obama

clear pulsar
#

Ok guardian druid

stray sigil
viscid remnant
#

???

amber snow
#

also Obama

#

Obama Obama

viscid remnant
#

Obama obama pog

tepid spoke
#

Also i need roids

#

David do roids with me

amber snow
#

they help

viscid remnant
#

👎

tepid spoke
#

Pussy

clear pulsar
#

Come on over buddeh

viscid remnant
#

Crazy old man

amber snow
#

TBH tho ... trying to progress a lift every single time is the worst way to actually progress.

tepid spoke
#

Its worked for 10 years

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🤷🏻‍♂️

#

I just progress one rep at a time

tepid spoke
red dew
#

hi is any of the crafted gear for pvp bis for feral?

amber snow
viscid remnant
tepid spoke
#

Nah you need one piece from craft

clear pulsar
#

Which is the same as conquest but it's time locked by sparks of ingenuity

amber snow
clear pulsar
amber snow
#

glorious

tepid spoke
#

Did you know that makes you not able to warstomp clone

#

Once again tauren druids are shit

lime light
#

@clear pulsar say more

#

u loot the pattern

#

or made an order

grand mesa
#

Just put an order in EP. It’s relatively cheap

lime light
#

EP will never pay his workers

grand mesa
#

The mats

#

Like 20-25k

clear pulsar
#

Made order

#

Cost like 25k gold

#

For mats

lime light
#

EP will craft it himself

#

with his blood on it

clear pulsar
grand mesa
#

Boomkin range haymaker clone

tropic schooner
lime light
#

@livid wasp need daily bg win

viscid remnant
#

Ep ur sham fully gear?

lime light
#

nay

#

i need a daily bg win

viscid remnant
#

I log go bg or skirmer?

lime light
#

one bg then off to finish druid

#

or could play few skirms ye

#

brb 5 min

viscid remnant
#

but man iam so hungry

#

ok good 5mins i find some food fast

amber snow
# clear pulsar

so ... can only get the 5% pvp thing on feet/head slot? You went feet for optimal stats down the road?

grand mesa
#

There is no helm for cc reduction afaik

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It’s only boots and it’s crit vers

amber snow
grand mesa
#

Where does that

#

Say anything

#

About CC reduction

amber snow
#

lol

#

ya know, ima leave that there, mistakes were made

#

Anyone tested the +1% dmg bonus? Assuming it doesn't stack

clear pulsar
#

You can only have 2 embellished items equipped

#

As it says over there at the top

amber snow
#

as in +1% per enemy

clear pulsar
#

You dont gain a 1% dmg buff period

#

You gain 1% dmg against enemies that attack you

#

So multiple enemies would just all get

#

1% dmg

#

To each individual one

amber snow
#

right on, thx

viscid remnant
#

hello face

#

please stop using logic

#

ty

amber snow
#

no reason not to get that as well as the boots though, right?

#

what other 'embelished' item would you get?

zinc wadi
#

why does it feel like others have like 350k+ hp and im sittin around 270k. only missing rings/trinks, are they that big of a difference?

grand mesa
#

Trinket bonus

zinc wadi
#

ahh

#

reading comprehension is cool

abstract cloak
#

Which weapons are you guys taking for feral?

#

vers haste or vers mastery

lime light
#

160k es

sour lodge
#

probably super dumb question, but do i thrash in pvp?

patent dove
#

when playing with bt you occasionally have to if brutal slash is on cd

lime light
#

thats what i wanted to post

#

@shadow kraken YES FOR bt

#

caps

stray sigil
#

3ilvl is noting

lime light
#

ok but

#

sub is actually

#

one shotting too

#

XD

viscid remnant
#

ye

lime light
#

121k echoing

#

shadowstrike 70k

#

and its every dance

viscid remnant
#

hahaha wjhat a joke

#

thjis guy has

#

2 vanishes

#

ROFL

lime light
#

u will see

lime light
#

2x sub in 2s

tepid spoke
#

Go jim

#

Idiot

#

@viscid remnant

#

Go jim

#

#

Go jim @grand mesa

lusty ravine
#

yo guys! have you experienced an issue, when you cannot cast thrash or rake on arenas as feral?

stray sigil
#

might be a addon error

viscid remnant
#

3 lines up

#

or what

stray sigil
#

just reload maybe

viscid remnant
#

notsure

stray sigil
#

not what hes asking

#

think hes saying he presses it doesnt work

lusty ravine
#

@viscid remnant what, i cannot use ability, im not asking about rotation dude

viscid remnant
#

ah

#

MYBAD

#

its probably some addon

#

alot of addons randomly stop u being able to press buttons

lusty ravine
#

but game tells me that "You cannot use this ability now" or some dumb shit like that

viscid remnant
#

what does it say exactly

lusty ravine
#

w8, gonna focus on that message

grand mesa
#

Yeah they kept buffing sub

#

And now

lime light
#

did u pick up talents

grand mesa
#

@stray sigil alt rogue

#

Pretend kidney is maim but u actually do damage

lime light
#

all EP needs rn is

#

mortal strike

#

and nothing can survive

violet lichen
#

anyone have feral talents?

#

for 2s/3s

viscid remnant
#

monkaW

#

how do i find out

#

what is the pvp item called

#

ilegit cant find

grand mesa
#

Huh

lime light
#

scroll down

#

if its cloth

#

what u are looking for

viscid remnant
#

ok ty

#

i dont have 40 of the thing

#

not even close

#

gg ?

lime light
#

ye cant do nothing

viscid remnant
#

it will be okay

lime light
#

ye

#

spam a bi trated and then

grand mesa
#

U talking primal chaos?

stray sigil
#

cant heal

#

but mayb i could try assa

#

but i also cba

lime light
#

ok did they fix

#

the spark for alts?

#

i dont have to do the chromie

#

it unlocked somehow

grand mesa
#

Yup literally just fixed

viscid remnant
#

wtf

#

i wasted like 1hr

lime light
#

ah cool, i just noticed

viscid remnant
#

doing those shit chromie quests

tardy hare
#

ye

#

they fixed like an hour ago

grand mesa
#

Hahahaha this expansion is so bis for alts

lime light
#

cool cool

tardy hare
#

dragonflight hella pog!?!??!??

grand mesa
#

SO BIS MANNN

lime light
#

u will see till u queue up

#

and die

grand mesa
#

This means

lime light
#

to a sub in half kidney

grand mesa
#

I can just level more alts

tardy hare
#

alt soon full gear too

#

big pog!

#

if gearing stays like this

#

europe will see a lot of Machtig Leider in blue

grand mesa
#

@tardy hare

#

Bis expansion man

lime light
#

@tardy hare whats the plan for DF

#

ah isee

grand mesa
lime light
#

LSevoker when?

tardy hare
#

me in the queue

grand mesa
#

@viscid remnant I need a 4th healer

#

Or maybe a dps

#

Help

viscid remnant
#

idont know my 3rd

#

cant know ur 4th

lime light
#

hpal lol

#

easly

viscid remnant
#

idk melee wings

#

is a bit sus

#

u cant lie

lime light
#

i like it

tardy hare
#

me when my smurf gets too much rating

grand mesa
#

U can do ranged tyr’s deliverance build i guess

viscid remnant
#

next is woyer

#

for sure

#

tru or tru

grand mesa
#

How many warriors will mud have

lime light
#

i wanna play ele

#

24/7

#

till i face

#

double melee

grand mesa
#

Maybe priest David? Heals + shadow

#

Fuck disc I play holy

viscid remnant
#

seems ok ye

lime light
#

disc and holy feels so boprng

grand mesa
#

I mean tbf EP I’m rdru main

viscid remnant
#

disc feels a bit new this expansion

#

some more buttons

#

with renew and pom and different shield mechanic

#

also no radience

grand mesa
#

I was watching I think lontar’s wargames with whazz against meh

lime light
#

at least rdru cant die

grand mesa
#

POM was doing like 30% of Meh’s healing

lime light
#

and dont have mana bar

grand mesa
#

No rdrus def oom now

#

Obv can meld drink but

#

Evokers never seem to oom

lime light
#

if u meld for drinks u are vegan

viscid remnant
#

pom carries

#

so hard

#

its so broken

grand mesa
#

Yeah POM is kinda nuts looking at mehs breakdown

viscid remnant
#

but he was holy or disc

lime light
#

do i send ww next

grand mesa
#

He was holy

#

Mother fuckers are making world quests daily again

#

Bi weekly was so good

lime light
#

what u talking about

grand mesa
#

World quests were previously showing up once every 3 days

#

Now they are everyday again

lime light
#

w/e

grand mesa
#

The non pvp WQ

lime light
#

no one do them

stray sigil
#

damn

#

they nerfed the wrathion grind

viscid remnant
#

WHO CARES

stray sigil
#

i do

grand mesa
#

I wouldn’t worry fuji

#

Suspect there’ll be weekly quests as time goes on that gets us there easy anywya

#

The degen obsidian grind was just to do it early

stray sigil
#

the wq reset daily starting tomorrow ?

grand mesa
#

Assuming so. Wonder if this means we get more rep overall and get thru renown faster

edgy shale
#

o wow

#

they really nmerfed

#

the wrthion shit

#

good

stray sigil
#

ok so

#

sp assa

#

gonna be the comp

#

in s1

grand mesa
#

Think so

#

Time to alt assa fuji

stray sigil
#

idk im watching suffres team wg whazz play rspevoker

viscid remnant
stray sigil
#

def looks like some ccancer

edgy shale
#

TRUE

viscid remnant
#

Holyshit man

edgy shale
#

fuji ur missing out on massive milkers bro

viral granite
#

anyone got link to feral pvp talents to start

tardy hare
#

Xd

edgy shale
#

fcats

#

THD needs jesus

viscid remnant
#

na he need to touch some grass

spring cedar
#

Hows guardian in casual pvp?

haughty compass
#

Blizzard says slow the fuck down. They say “no”

viral granite
#

are we getting a creation catalyst to apply tier bonsues to pvp gear or do we want to use the token set that has bonuses

clear pulsar
#

Token set bonus doesnt work in arena and bg

stray sigil
edgy shale
#

???

woeful spade
#

Also what happened to the debate between Heart of the lion vs SA

woeful spade
#

For example, what do you guys think about this spec

stray sigil
#

i dont like not taking SA

#

i dropped apex took heart and kept SA

stray sigil
woeful spade
#

Agreed

stray sigil
#

his spec like a non pw cleave spec looks like

woeful spade
#

I like that idea, but how much DPS is apex

#

Because the question becomes

#

Which one is more DPS, SA or Apex I guess

#

I'd assume SA

stray sigil
#

i mean SA def more dmg than apex over a game is u single bleed

#

prob even in cleave its more

patent dove
#

I‘m rusty on these abbreviations. What‘s SA?

stray sigil
#

cuz dcr + SA is pretty nice too

#

sudden ambush

woeful spade
#

I think it's super arbitrary and there's so many abbreviations

woeful spade
stray sigil
#

double rake

woeful spade
#

I don't think double rake is worth in 3s / 2s yea?

stray sigil
#

maybe vs uhdk /bm/ demo

#

3s also depensd yes

woeful spade
#

I do like this spec the best

#

Looks good

patent dove
#

Apex has to be really good into these pet specs tho. I‘d definitely go with some kind of primal wrath+apex spec into that

#

Keep biting the lock

woeful spade
#

God, I wish matter fur was better. Would be so comfy this xpac

woeful spade
#

Yeah you'd just run an AOE build at that point I think

#

wld be a completely different build

stray sigil
#

would prob play the pw build ye

woeful spade
#

Primal Wrath + Double Rake + Apex + Rampant Ferocity

stray sigil
#

im not sold on rampant ferocity being better than SA still in cleave situations tbh

woeful spade
#

Kinda disappointed with the entire feral talents.

Class tree is AWFUL.

Feral there is very little choice

patent dove
#

Don‘t know about rampant ferocity. I don‘t want to kill the pet, i want to let it live for rip uptime

stray sigil
#

its betyter than the previous iteration

#

so u can imagine that lol

viral granite
#

is their a voke ferla build or we gotta play bees

stray sigil
#

convoke a dead meme

safe heart
#

Convoke is terrible without the mosifiers

#

Convoke sucked with the modifiers

viral granite
#

anything other then bees

stray sigil
#

whats bees

#

swarm ?

safe heart
#

If you don't play swarm you're trolling

viral granite
#

lord ok

#

what pvp talents

safe heart
#

Depends what ur fighting

viral granite
#

bg and world pvp atm

safe heart
#

Strength every game, leader every game in 3s

stray sigil
#

leader all the time

viral granite
#

gonna go farm tokens

stray sigil
#

leader wicked claws thorns

#

for world

safe heart
#

Play claws and thorns

stray sigil
#

imo

woeful spade
viral granite
#

i had those two and bit

#

forgot about thorns

woeful spade
#

For open world stuff this is what I'm running

#

More focus on PvE

#

because it is rare I run into people

lusty ravine
#

@viscid remnant back to my issue with thrash, midfiight it says "Target need to be in front of you" on thrash ability. Seems like changing form helps but still, weird

stray sigil
#

thats odd cuz thrash doesnt need a target

pallid temple
woeful spade