pvp

[surreal heron]

mounts

[fair mirage]

ya cosmetic mounts

[surreal heron]

has presets for quest items too

[fair mirage]

my brain is fried from having yak on the same bind for the past decade

[tiny oar]

i click my yak bind :x

[grand mesa]

im going thru the mounts tab rn for yak cause it's usually on opie

[edgy shale]

just use the search

[grand mesa]

i have it favorited

[edgy shale]

i have like 80 things favorited its not useful at all lol

i need to go thru and prune

[grand mesa]

lol

[edgy shale]

[fair mirage]

zone into garrison and glad mounts all patrolling around the stables

[fair mirage]

also didn't they nuke waterwalking mount

but keep the sky golem for herbing and stuff

[grand mesa]

idk im a druid lol

i think they did with waterwalking kinda remember that

but we have those BFA

inflatable soles right?

do those still work?

so we have to clear all 4 colors glyph?

for prepatch

shit

i saw u in balance

LOL

[clear pulsar]

EVOKER WHO?

[grand mesa]

raguel didn't have fire breath bound?

what's your leaver rates rn

seeing alot?

[clear pulsar]

Yeah a ton of quitters

[tepid spoke]

firebreath doesnt do mush

tbh

[clear pulsar]

My entire details segments has like 2 completed matches at most

[tepid spoke]

living flame is the goat

[clear pulsar]

There's like 25 rounds of half matches

[serene thistle]

had someone in my key yesterday say that evokers gonna be the kings of aoe

[clear pulsar]

That damage is also 85% self inflicted friom time dilation and the necro soulbind thing

[clear pulsar]

They really are huge padders

Like preservation compared to other healers at least

Idk about devastation

Looks a bit mid in terms of aoe

But yeah my guy just wasnt doing damage

[serene thistle]

maybe he had that bug where you couldnt cast empowered spells

[tiny oar]

is this a shuffle wtf

[haughty compass]

Part of how I was sitting too.

Ok on the way home for some devastation shuffles

[clear pulsar]

Ok bring it on

Snipe me

I will ROOT YOU OUT

[haughty compass]

Oh man hell yea

Me and face about to make out

I mean fight

[tiny oar]

face rooted me out on priest yesterday

got owned

[clear pulsar]

Ok she was healing I was dps

I didnt beat her

[tiny oar]

yea probs not :(

[haughty compass]

I want all the smoke

😤

[clear pulsar]

I got griefed 1st round on her team

I dont think I won either I think I went 3-3

[tiny oar]

i got griefed every game

[clear pulsar]

I had to reload UI cuz couldnt press buttons

I load back in and we lost already

[tiny oar]

lol

i was playing like a dog just tilted

[serene thistle]

is there anything worth getting from this prepatch shit?

[grand mesa]

heirloom

[serene thistle]

are those good?

i understand very little about this game aside from M+ shit

[clear pulsar]

The heirloom is nice, it's a much stronger trinket than the other stuff you can have

But yeah its for leveling

Ofc if you dont plan on leveling something

But it's good to get just in case

[serene thistle]

fuck that, just buy character boosts

imagine levelling

[thorny venture]

are the armor transmogs limited or can we still earn them in DF?

[clear pulsar]

I finally had 2 full matches got 120 rating from them

5-1 both times

[ebon lynx]

how do I get rake stun back as rdruid?

[clear pulsar]

Then my pc blue screens next game and I'm down 150

No it bugs out

If you swap from feral to resto

[tiny oar]

its bugged if u swap yea log out and back in

[clear pulsar]

You fix it by relogging, or swapping to balance/guardian and back to resto

Just dont swap directly from feral to resto

[ebon lynx]

ok thanks, i obviously have the rake talent but not sure if we're supposed to have rake stun as rdruid. google results some people say its a bug? also they took it away?

[tiny oar]

nope

[ebon lynx]

lol that worked. now shows the stun on the tooltip. quality bug right there

was raging in disc they took it away

[haughty compass]

oh neat, cant log in

[clear pulsar]

Inspecting someone's talents also breaks/taints my UI @grand mesa

[grand mesa]

rough

[haughty compass]

Oof first round, just went 1-5

[tiny oar]

@grand mesa kaelon pvper build

[edgy oxide]

Kaelon

[grand mesa]

[clear pulsar]

Lake is that what you run?

Wait nourish

It's really annoying reloading all the time

[tiny oar]

i removed the nourish for nuturing lol

this lock rly just queued up for a shuffle and went afk for 5 rounds on a smoke break

real zimbita energy

[edgy oxide]

Giving up and just playing feral?

[clear pulsar]

-1 min CD on tranq does nothing on solo shuffle, NS cdr also doesnt stack with teh conduit so no reason to pick that

[edgy oxide]

That’s fair lake

[clear pulsar]

Also

[tiny oar]

no thats resto

[edgy oxide]

No it’d be zimbita energy if you gave up and played feral

And died every pull

[clear pulsar]

Regenesis is really weak in pve, I could see it being a bit better in pvp but you're basically trading the 2 Regrowth talents for it, and I think the Regrowth talents are still better (+40% crit and +50% stronger hot)

[tiny oar]

hmm true

i swap those ig

[clear pulsar]

Yeah just take 35% NS heal instead of cdr

I do like the other tranq talent

Can be pretty nice stuff like

Lowering swiftmend, NS, swarm, CW

[tiny oar]

what would u play instead rampant/imp regrowth?

[edgy oxide]

How much does it even lower stuff by? I haven’t checked

From what I remember it wasn’t much

[clear pulsar]

15 seconds over the full channel

[tiny oar]

idk how this is weak rejuv is like 15% of my healing every game

[clear pulsar]

Yeah you basically have 3 points to put between improved regrowth, rampant growth, and nurturing ig

[clear pulsar]

Yeah it's 2 points for what is averages out to like 2% hps gain

[grand mesa]

@safe heart fun sesh we crushed

[clear pulsar]

Even if people are perma 50% HP thats buffing your rejuvs by 10% throughout the game

That's 2% hps

[tiny oar]

would regrowth even be more tho

[grand mesa]

bok made a grid2 profile that looks exactly like stock

[clear pulsar]

Idk but a regrowth crit might save someone that wouldn't have survived otherwise

[grand mesa]

also download that Notaint addon i've been linking

[tiny oar]

i guess u could play it with condy

[clear pulsar]

Passive constant buff on rejuv probably wont

[grand mesa]

only taint error i have is with edit mode

[grand mesa]

it might have value in pvp when we get the 40% HP buff. but i kinda doubt it. especially for 2 points. i think we have better 2 points elsewhere

dreamstate goated for shuffle for sure. esp in DF with the dampening changes. u won't get to 2-3 minutes realistically for a second use

[clear pulsar]

Yeah dreamstate has given me some clutch CW and swiftmends for sure

Can u link again pls?

[grand mesa]

only time i think i'd go the 2min is against WWs. so they can't rop you on their 1 min go

mine? or lakez

[tiny oar]

mine what

[clear pulsar]

The addon

[grand mesa]

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/notaint2

also i can't plug this addon enough

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/lifebloom-glow

shows sotf empowered hots and lifebloom pandemic window

[tiny oar]

neat

[grand mesa]

so i have sotf rejuv on me and i can pop lifebloom for early bloom on enji

[clear pulsar]

Most aggro build world

[tiny oar]

i kinda want kick

gotta drop a lot for it tho

[grand mesa]

Idk how u get kick at 60

[tiny oar]

idk if its even possible

[grand mesa]

It’s hard at 70 lmao

[tiny oar]

wait hold on

fried or true

[edgy oxide]

Surprised you don’t want more defensives

[tiny oar]

uh

i could go right and 1 less point in natural recovery

[grand mesa]

what are your conduits

[tiny oar]

wait

[clear pulsar]

No swiftmend condi

[tiny oar]

gotta delete WHI

[clear pulsar]

Gotta delete flash of clarity

You already have that on talent

[tiny oar]

didnt they fix the bug

[tiny oar]

wtf

[clear pulsar]

Idk if they fixed anything

[tiny oar]

bro i dislike blizz lol

comfy

[clear pulsar]

What about this

Natural recovery double dips on self healing if you think about it

Per point you do 2% more and then also take 2% more

Gotta be better than barkskin duration surely

[tiny oar]

yea ill do this probs

[edgy oxide]

That’s what I was thinking

Left is bait

[grand mesa]

yeah i think is better

[clear pulsar]

I think maim is kinda bait too

[grand mesa]

does overgrowth still give WG if u don't have it talented?

[clear pulsar]

I think personally I'd go WG Vortex over Rip Maim, or maybe for Roar

[grand mesa]

i feel like it will but idk

[tiny oar]

i rly like left just cuz move speed is so vital for feral aff plays

[clear pulsar]

Yeah

It does

[haughty compass]

they take away the alliance honor bonus? sadge

[tiny oar]

i need maim 4 sure

maybe roar instead of bash tho

comfy i think

[grand mesa]

spec tree is my exact build too

and then u flex dreamstate/IP depending if there's a WW or not

[tiny oar]

yea

[clear pulsar]

Ok what if

All the CC + surge

[grand mesa]

surge + protector feels so good

but u give up kick

@ 60

and lakez wants that

[viscid remnant]

Truuuuue

[tiny oar]

Can u surge in caster without boomie form?

[clear pulsar]

Yeah

[tiny oar]

Wtf

[grand mesa]

yes

u can drop like 2-4k dps in a shuffle with just protector moonfire and surges

and it's really nice psyfiend/totem killer

[viscid remnant]

Hi im saul goodman did you know that you have rights

[tiny oar]

Is it instant? Or cast time

[grand mesa]

instant

10s cd

no mana

[tiny oar]

Wtf

[clear pulsar]

It does ~8k dmg per

[tiny oar]

Okay hold on wait I'm a god

[clear pulsar]

Thats a great halsey song

[tiny oar]

I drop main and rip and frenzy regen and I get boomie aff + astral range

And surge

AND I HAVE KICK

BANG BANG

[grand mesa]

yeah fuck rip

u can do good dam from range lol

[tiny oar]

Wait

Fuck kick actually

[clear pulsar]

Yes

[tiny oar]

I can have maim and and astral reach

Holy fuck I'm a gamer

[grand mesa]

does astral influence buff kick by +3 yards?

[clear pulsar]

Yeah

[tiny oar]

I assume so

[grand mesa]

so it's an 18yard kick?

[tiny oar]

16

[grand mesa]

melee goes up by 3 no?

weird idk

[tiny oar]

Its 13 base

[grand mesa]

oh wtf

[tiny oar]

I have the craziest build ever in a sec

[grand mesa]

oh no shit it is 13

i thought it was 15 this whole time

[tiny oar]

Haha

[edgy shale]

its not actually that range though

like it is but obv the travel time is still there its ananoying

[clear pulsar]

I sent arena screenshot in resto channel

Cuz saw lakers name thought it was pvp

Just do big dam

[tiny oar]

LOL

I literally never would have specced surge if u didnt tell me this ty f2f

[grand mesa]

it's a fun fucking playstyle

and idc what they say in #resto i kinda enjoy protector/surge in keys too

[clear pulsar]

I really dislike moonfire spam, in pvp it feels way less oppressive cuz you actually have to constantly heal

[grand mesa]

MF spam

surge yeah

u go kitty like ST

apply thrash i think if everyone has moonfire. but like a full protector moonfire i think is higher prio even if they all have MF on them already

[haughty compass]

korayn first strike and tip the scales

rofl

[clear pulsar]

Direct hit protector moonfire doesnt do more damage per cast than a rake + rake dot

[grand mesa]

yeah it's fun in pvp cause it's always filling up

[clear pulsar]

But rake incurs the cat form gcd too

But theebok is def misleading with this whole

Moonfire does more damage than any other spell in the spellbook

It's not true

But anyways

I hate tab moonfire tab moonfire tab moonfire tab moonfire tab moonfire tab moonfire tab moonfire gameplay

[tiny oar]

yea

time to queue shuffle for 10hrs

[grand mesa]

Send the dam bro

[clear pulsar]

Ok lake you're gonna CRACK their faces in

IMO macro surge and moonfire to cast on target of target if you're targeting ally, makes it much easier to just press and forget

Unless your party member likes to manually target their CC

In that case that might cause some CC breaks

I just lost another 150 rating cuz of pc crash

I hate my life maaaaan

[tiny oar]

FFFFFFF

[clear pulsar]

Queue up for 2h gain rating on 2 matches total cuz people quitting left and right

Just to lose 300 rating in 30 mins cuz of crash

[grand mesa]

Brocc is

I’m glad she’s one of our resto mods

[tiny oar]

a bit lol

[tiny oar]

yea shes very nice

[haughty compass]

You’re insane rofl

[edgy shale]

leave fuji alone

he did nothing wrong

[tiny oar]

i feel u

[edgy shale]

and free davider

FREE MY HOMIE DAVIDER

idk im just saying it randomly lol

[clear pulsar]

Idk feji hurt me deeply today

I'll never financially recover

Its cuz it was free on evoker ye?

[haughty compass]

@viscid remnant @stray sigil

final form

[grand mesa]

They buffed drop rate of those world bosses

[tiny oar]

regrowth cranking

its hard to find globals for surge honestly idk

feels like im only getting a couple per round

[grand mesa]

That’s what was fun for me tbh

Squeezing in the dam inbetween

[tiny oar]

in between swipping and clones and heals

yea

[clear pulsar]

It's easier to get a surge than go for a rip tho for sure

[tiny oar]

yea

[clear pulsar]

Oh yeah I dont think you'll get a lot of surges ever if you're prio going for CPs for maim and stuff

So it's probably pointless to play surge + maim together

[tiny oar]

eh

i can prolyl fit both

if i rly focus

[grand mesa]

Lakes be the 45yard gamer I know you can be

[clear pulsar]

Ok lake what if you take convoke for boomievokes in arena too

[tiny oar]

HMMMM

[clear pulsar]

[grand mesa]

Slowly becoming everything you hated

You almost friendship over’d me

For considering boomkin aff

[tiny oar]

no no

im a master

all shifting

all forms

u need some posi vibes

[clear pulsar]

Why u flame

Vibes gone

[edgy shale]

[fair mirage]

[grand mesa]

🤔

[tiny oar]

BRO

2 WINS -40?

fuck shuffle

[edgy shale]

[tiny oar]

bro

this dh

[grand mesa]

You probably paired with low CR healer

[fair mirage]

Two wins is going 2-4

[tiny oar]

??????????????????????????????????????

[clear pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/doge-difference-in-skill-meme-dog-gif-22631267

[fair mirage]

What am I looking at

[tiny oar]

PURE FILTH

[clear pulsar]

I had a DH play immo aura dispel against aff lock and commit sudoku all 3 rounds he was on my team

From UA

Not all 3

[grand mesa]

I hate games like that. When they’re all so low dam your mana actually matters

[clear pulsar]

But

[tiny oar]

LLOL

[clear pulsar]

On enemy team it never happened I wonder

[fair mirage]

Yeah, I remember having that happen in pre-patch for Shadowlands. I'd just UA a DH in a BG and they'd randomly implode.

Also pressing revival and dying instantly is a mw rite of passage.

[tiny oar]

very cool ty blizzard

[fair mirage]

Soulrend is broken, hunt is probably broken, but brand can be ripped off.

[clear pulsar]

Ok lake dispel sinful brand

BUT GUISE

[tiny oar]

BRO

I DUDE

DID

[clear pulsar]

ENJI SAID ONLY FERAL HAS BROKEN DOUBLE COVENANT SITUATION

[fair mirage]

He brands, it gets dispelled, then reapplied via meta.

[grand mesa]

Sinful brand is only like issue when u play against dbl DH imo. And u can’t get them all off. Also p sure meta applies brand

[clear pulsar]

OTHER SPECS ARE SO OP AND DONT NEED PREPATCH GIMMICKS

OK?

Fucking A man

[tiny oar]

YEA

[fair mirage]

Yeah it's brand, dispel, meta to apply it, then with CC or w/e you can usually get uptime on either the meta or second brand

er second or third

usually somebody just gets blown up by second DR

[clear pulsar]

Idk

Cant be real

[tiny oar]

i had a devoker that was just instant L every time

[fair mirage]

havoc committing war crimes pay it no mind

[tiny oar]

idk im done shuffleing too tilted lol

[clear pulsar]

I read in this pvp chat that DHs borrowed power is weak anyways and feral is bad

[grand mesa]

Lmao

[tiny oar]

there was two games where i just got stunned > full MCed by disc

with an enc and devas on my team

and no kicks

[grand mesa]

Haha the full MCs are nuts right

I’m so not used to sitting MCs full like that

[tiny oar]

like ?????????? u guys okay whats going on

makes me wanna alt f4 instantly

[grand mesa]

I’m seriously seeing some shit in shuffle

[fair mirage]

Yeah, my healers throttle me if the mc sits for more than a second.

(and I deserve it)

[edgy shale]

LEVE FUJI ALONE AND LEVE ENJI ALONE

[clear pulsar]

Ok sorry I'll stop talking about enji

He did nothing wrong

Feji is the rat

[tiny oar]

just flame me instead

i deserve it

[clear pulsar]

And I as a snake will ROOT HIM OUT

[edgy shale]

🐍

[grand mesa]

https://twitter.com/oterrifying/status/1592756862159843329?s=46&t=yr3ZKPkbLrMD5J5alQwbSQ

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[tiny oar]

photo popping off though huge hps

[edgy shale]

t-dog needs to root u

[tiny oar]

ty for weakaura pzuzzle

[grand mesa]

Which one?

[tiny oar]

lifebloom pandemic

[grand mesa]

I send u so many things I don’t remember

Oh

The addon is nice ya

[tiny oar]

im gonna learn a dps for keys in DF mayb

[grand mesa]

Whatchu thinking

[tiny oar]

sum kinda ranged prolly sp or mage

maybe marksmen hunter?

[edgy shale]

mage players....

[grand mesa]

I’d try hunter if I didn’t have to collect and deal with the pets

Cba

[edgy shale]

marks i thought u dont need to use a pet?

but fuck controlling pets, i agree. i find it annoying

[tiny oar]

yea

im a marks main for sure

im gonna name my kity yiffyiff

[surreal heron]

It's good cop bad cop over there, brocc is the good cop

[untold tapir]

is anyone having a hard time bursting in solo shuffle?

you cant invoke and i get chain cc'd in my berserk

convoke*

and this bleeds build is cool but only if they are mongos and stack up on top of each other . alot of games its shadow affy and i feel not as good

[clear pulsar]

Murdered him dead, any kill finishers in chat?

Yeah dont play convoke

[untold tapir]

im night fae

i guess i could swap it doesnt really matter

[clear pulsar]

Much worse than necro or kyrian

[untold tapir]

cause i cant get to swarm on this tree righ tnow

[clear pulsar]

Show me ur talents

[untold tapir]

well i was playing alot of 2s

i use same as snupy

i swap

[clear pulsar]

Snupy runs a diff build every 2 hours

[edgy shale]

[clear pulsar]

For content

[untold tapir]

between primal and rake and the brutal slash

yeah but ive comapred it with mine i know whats the best

[clear pulsar]

Can you screenshot?

[untold tapir]

i see swarm is the way to go though

[surreal heron]

No pigs

[edgy shale]

no piglets either?

[tiny oar]

thyme prefers the term ihoglets

[surreal heron]

Lmao

[safe heart]

bigshrimp im just gunna let you know now

you should prepare to be disappointed

[edgy shale]

[untold tapir]

ok

[clear pulsar]

These cleave talents really arent a 2s build

[untold tapir]

no thats my shuffle build

80% of the time

[edgy shale]

this is wat snuppy has been making vids about

[untold tapir]

if i dont take the bleeds i do crap dmg but maybe cuz no swarm

[edgy shale]

he just PWs everything and apex procs or sometin

[safe heart]

its not because no swarm

trust

cuz even with swarm

its still negative dam

[clear pulsar]

I've never used any of that PW cleave shit, I dont believe that's a real thing you should be running tbh

[untold tapir]

so what im feeling is correct then

bruh

[clear pulsar]

Enji stays clowning

[untold tapir]

all u gotta do is swap it for brtual slash

[safe heart]

face tell him the build that does giga damage

[untold tapir]

and vein ripper

[safe heart]

id like to know it too

[edgy shale]

I WAS GONNA SAY THAT

[untold tapir]

also my ilvl is 292

[edgy shale]

u log of and play dh bruh

shiuts op

[untold tapir]

i only re su bbed 5 days ago

not bad tho for 5 days

[clear pulsar]

I'm healing a game rn

[untold tapir]

from blues

[clear pulsar]

@safe heart remember when DH gained nothing from shadowlands gimmicks?

[untold tapir]

im thibnking assassination

[edgy shale]

ye thats good. feral is gonnna be a lot better in DF, but right now prepatch is just a shit show

[clear pulsar]

Gimme 10 mins

[untold tapir]

dh gu nna get nerfed, assassin gunna fly under the radar

[edgy shale]

don't base DF opinions off ur experience in prepatch

[tiny oar]

[safe heart]

look

[grand mesa]

DH isn’t like prepatch in DF. Undoubtedly the best melee tho. But prepatch is a whole nother lever

[safe heart]

i hope im wrong

[untold tapir]

yeah but feral will be worse in beta dude

[safe heart]

and feral doesnt suck

[untold tapir]

beccs of secondary stats

we get a secondary stat cru nch

means less feral dmg

[edgy shale]

no dude

whaat ur saying just now is just no

with stats

[untold tapir]

it is tho. thats why windwalker is always a 1 shot god in first patch

and gets weaker as the expansion goes usually

except sl

sl ww had tooi many things

[grand mesa]

What if I told you that the secondaries are virtually the same on beta rn with full conquest

[untold tapir]

it was just SL

[edgy shale]

[untold tapir]

WW usually falls off

its all these new modifying abilities that keeps them super strong in pvp

like bonedust

[untold tapir]

then id say thats good

[edgy shale]

the thing they are keeping in DF?

[untold tapir]

but that doesnt make any sense

[grand mesa]

So stat scaling over the course of an expac is largely a myth. Direct buffs and nerfs to classes tier over tier make a much bigger impact

Bonedust was nerfed so it doesn’t crit if I recall correct after s2

[untold tapir]

none of this has anyhting to do with feral

how we more burst

how is incarn on the beta

[edgy shale]

horrible

[safe heart]

dude berserk isnt a cd

buffing it with incarn is dumb

[edgy shale]

feral burst is gonna be around similar to now, but other specs are gonna be a lot less relative to now

prob

[grand mesa]

That’s my take pod

Having played a lot of both

[safe heart]

your burst is ff

have fun

[haughty compass]

Imagine playing feral in 2023

[grand mesa]

Like dh and aff are oppressive rn. But they lose some of that prepatch juice with dbl/triple cov and conduits

[clear pulsar]

I'm playing this as kyrian mostly

[safe heart]

ah

[clear pulsar]

If I'm necro change the CI and swarm points to these and +1 tireless energy

[untold tapir]

yeah but there are a few strong melees like frost dk

[clear pulsar]

But convoke is just garbage

Don't play NF lol

[clear pulsar]

With this I play circle and just run around multidotting like a melee aff lock

[grand mesa]

I only think dk and dh are distinctly better than everything else imo

[clear pulsar]

Do more dmg than the aff locks I've played against

[safe heart]

[grand mesa]

But all the big guys rate feral favorably. A-ish on their tier lists whatever those are worth. We’ll have a better idea when we’re actually live with DF and 70

[safe heart]

yeah dunno

hope feral is good

[tiny oar]

me too :3

[edgy shale]

i hope hpal is absolutely horrible

[clear pulsar]

I just got the s4 vicious mount just thru prepatch solo shuffle

[grand mesa]

Evoker also removed bleeds p easily

[clear pulsar]

0 to 100%

[edgy shale]

both specs or just perservation?

[clear pulsar]

Both

[edgy shale]

[tiny oar]

true

[edgy shale]

watever, at least they can't just remove maim as well

[clear pulsar]

1 min cd so they cant quite remove every FF

But it's very toxic

[edgy shale]

a bop on every go fucks my mental hard

[grand mesa]

And evoker is best healer rn probably. So it might not be a good time

[edgy shale]

[grand mesa]

If you see them everywhere

[edgy shale]

i will do snupy multidot

[clear pulsar]

Yeah I just faced my first good prevoker

And it was definitely rougher than facing rshams and hpals

[clear pulsar]

Pykan you queuing up em shuffles?

[haughty compass]

I got a couple

Dps Qs miserable

I went 1-5 then 5-1

And then was in Q for 40 min

[clear pulsar]

Yeah dps queue sucks, at least there's no more tank v tank matches

[haughty compass]

Little over 1700, I’m figuring it out

[edgy shale]

no1 has come in asking about bear builds in a while. they musta gotten owneded by the change

[haughty compass]

Still not very good at rotating some of the utility spells and defensives

[tardy hare]

I was the one asking

[clear pulsar]

Their new tree doesnt let them pick full moonfire build + incarn at 60

[edgy shale]

TRUE

[clear pulsar]

So that part lost some damage

[edgy shale]

[tardy hare]

Abandoned ship

[clear pulsar]

Maul does a ton of damage now tho

These bears just bad

Like I faced a bear that pressed 1 maul and 23 moonfires

In a round

[haughty compass]

I need honor too. 292 ilvl lol

[tiny oar]

._.

[tiny oar]

on evoker?

[clear pulsar]

I sent boxes to my evoker and got the worst slots imaginable

[tiny oar]

[clear pulsar]

This btw is what the throw glaive leggo does, 1 cast of throw glaive does 3.5x damage, you can buff 2 glaives per immo aura everytime and then have 2 or 3 stacks leftover for another in between if you want.

High HPers only

[clear pulsar]

We said the same thing about vulpera

[pallid temple]

Dragon is so op in shuffle

Burst like 50k dps with 250 ilevel

Mobility is also nut

[clear pulsar]

Yeah their mobility is really something

A bit oppressive

I guess it's to make up for 25yd range

[pallid temple]

I can kite those high gears like 4 min before i die

[grave breach]

how you guys playing against evoker anyway? was queueing a few 3s yesterday and couldnt figure them out rly

do i just throw stuns at them when they have their thing up that the next 3 control losses are imune?

[clear pulsar]

I'm 99% positive that is purgeable so hope for a purge

From your team

[tiny oar]

Its purgeable yea

[thorny venture]

Its magic so pray you have a priest, mage, or shaman

Evoker has no real immunities and their only true CC is a cast time disorient that brings the enemy to them.

[clear pulsar]

Hunters, dhs, locks also have purges, just on a 10s cd.

Or blood elf racial

[clear pulsar]

Devastation gets an aoe stun

Evoker can get a purge with a cd too

[tiny oar]

I miss elemond :(

Fuck

Sry ele

[clear pulsar]

I miss elemond too

Remi was the best of us

[tiny oar]

True ripper nice guy

[grand mesa]

Yo

[viscid remnant]

Puzzle i won

The bid

Legendary or not

I paid 2300

[tiny oar]

@grand mesa yo

[viscid remnant]

Buyout is like

7k

Legendary auctionhouser

[thorny venture]

Ah, pres only has deep breath stun

The purge on flame breath is weird

[clear pulsar]

Thats what I meant. I just only saw devokers run it

Didnt realize its on class tree

But dev do get -1m cdr on deep breath

[grand mesa]

Very nice

[viscid remnant]

they call me the gatzgetzan auctioneer

cuz i got the best deals anywhere

[viscid remnant]

watching drainer play evoker healer

and he is legit dying omega fast

prob has no gear

ye he has no mainhand

KEKW

crackhead

[pallid coral]

lontar's the best one i've seen so far

[viscid remnant]

while everyone1 was on wotlk he was grinding beta rly hard i think

[grand mesa]

Lontar is amazing

Only guy who admitted it lol

Hope everyone is having a good morning

[viscid remnant]

gn glyphiestro

[grand mesa]

Gn bud

[clear pulsar]

I feel like

Prevoker plays somewhat like an rsham!?

Makes sense lontar owns

Goat rsham truly

[viscid remnant]

mattiu is sayting its more like rdruid

but iam notsure

never actually played it more than 1minute

[grand mesa]

He might have meant healing profile

[clear pulsar]

It's more proactive than rsham

[grand mesa]

Idk how a 25 yard class can play similar to rdruid playstyle

Well 30

[viscid remnant]

imean lontar is pretty good on all healers i think

so it makes sense that hes good on another one

[grand mesa]

He’s like a true multi class er

Maybe I’ll send conquest boxes to myself and fuck with it idk

Still no clue what they do so it might not be a bad idea

Is lontar playing it rn @viscid remnant ?

Can u steal a screencap of his talents

[viscid remnant]

te he is

notsure if i can find his talents

[clear pulsar]

Armory yes?

[grand mesa]

I’ll pull up a vod when I’m home

No shot I’m fucking with armory pages on classes I don’t know when it’s just a long list of talents

[viscid remnant]

he has command for monksham rdr but not evoker

[grand mesa]

It reads like a giant tooltip

And I hate tooltips

Idk if I love his rdr build

[viscid remnant]

its so weird

[grand mesa]

5% mana regen just seems functionally useless to me

[viscid remnant]

he plays so zug on evoker

[grand mesa]

An extra rejuv every 60s

Waowwwww

Might be hard to punish evoker idk

[viscid remnant]

he is playing like a zug and eating polys left and right

SUSSY

[clear pulsar]

Go to raiderio page and it can link you to wowhead calc with the build up

[grand mesa]

Oh that’s more ideal

[clear pulsar]

Just update the raiderio page to make sure its yknow

Up to date

[viscid remnant]

its like he is playing zug

but he doesnt have the zug like rsham

true or true

[grand mesa]

David I had a good sesh yesterday as shadowplay

Fun comp

[viscid remnant]

prepatch session

[grand mesa]

Enji and I playing natty 👍

No VI + fluorish gaming for me

Well I guess true natty is taking out floral recycling

That thing is busted I’ll miss it

[clear pulsar]

Bro

Why tho

[grand mesa]

I don’t want to play with things I won’t have in DF. I know you can’t fathom that but I get where enji and fuji are coming from when they say stuff like that

Where they’re condimented is they play natty then complain about dh/aff damage and not keeping up

[clear pulsar]

I can understand not wanting to play with it for ur reasons. My gripe with enji is whining in here about feral being ass when youre deliberately choosing to be weaker, and saying nonsense about other specs youve never played.

Exactly

[grand mesa]

But I don’t fault them for playing that way

Cause I do same

[clear pulsar]

Youre lying tho I saw you press fleshcraft every single game

Every gaaaame

[grand mesa]

Oh true I forget about flesh ya

I miss flesh so much on beta

Every time I get harpooned and I know trap is coming

[clear pulsar]

Put tranq on that key

[grand mesa]

🤢

Don’t have meld on beta either I’m troll

Too lazy to setup alliance toon

[clear pulsar]

Honestly what set me off I think was saying DH doesnt use busted borrowed powers in prepatch

Enji is a handsome and great man

[grand mesa]

Who actually said that tho and did they say it that way or are you just reading it weird

[clear pulsar]

@safe heart ily sorry

[grand mesa]

Cause that’s just not true

They’re triple cov and doing that weird mastery stack throw glaive shit

[viscid remnant]

why is lontar

flaming so hard

mf is legitmalding

at randoms in shuffle

XD ?

[grand mesa]

That guy has been in shuffle for hours and hours

His mental is fraying

A man can only chase turds who don’t press their buttons behind pillars and be PMA for so long

[viscid remnant]

SHUFFLE IS GOOD GUYS

[clear pulsar]

Ofc I'm interpreting what he said. The jist of it was basically saying that feral would fall off outside of prepatch compared to other specs

[grand mesa]

Ah yeah I think I remember that now that u worded diff

[clear pulsar]

That very clearly says that he thinks feral has strong borrowed power and the other strong specs dont

[grand mesa]

I also don’t agree with that

But fuji doesn’t believe me that beta dh is weaker than prepatch dh

[clear pulsar]

Like idk if feral is s tier in beta

[grand mesa]

Even tho it’s still the best melee class and s tier

[clear pulsar]

But prepatch dh is bonkers

[grand mesa]

Yeah

[clear pulsar]

And its cuz of leggo 100p

It legit triples ur throw glaive dmg

Feral leggo is maybe 10% dps gain tops. Havoc is like 30%.

[grand mesa]

Now that thyme and brocc positive vibes chased fuji off I won’t even be able to say I told you so when I’m right and dh aren’t nearly as busted as prepatch

[viscid remnant]

so u are saying

i shoudl log beta

[grand mesa]

I mean the 40% and damp changes are still not healer friendly

[viscid remnant]

np

i will main bm hunter

KAPPA

[grand mesa]

But I don’t think any class feels super out of line damage wise now on beta. Not like what we played early on David

[viscid remnant]

maybe after this bg

i will try it

hopefully we win

[clear pulsar]

I cant wait to get home and blast some dh shuffles tho

[viscid remnant]

idk

[clear pulsar]

I was saying on marvel stream earlier

[viscid remnant]

i wanna try

hpal maybe

we shall see

[clear pulsar]

Havoc fun is 80% on the sound design

[grand mesa]

I really think hpal is dece for shuffle

David

[clear pulsar]

Throw glaive and blade dance have some top tier sound

Theyre sooo good to press and hear

[tiny oar]

Yea

Dh has cranker sound effects

[grand mesa]

They bomb heals. They normally oom and have mana issues but with damp so aggressive it’s almost like mana don’t matter everyone dead anyway

And the immunities might be clutch too david

[grand mesa]

It’s just a fun class. I mained it for a bit in bfa I enjoyed it

[viscid remnant]

its fun for sure

but i could never play dps

i would be 1.4 gamer

[clear pulsar]

I was dh main all of legion and rerolled out of principle

Im sure it was fine enough but

They murdered havoc talent tree in bfa

[viscid remnant]

ok fill me in

how do i get the good gears

on beta

[grand mesa]

Vendor

Conquest gear now

[viscid remnant]

o ok

same place

but man

my UI

its over

hpal sux

go next

these talents are poopy

[clear pulsar]

You cAn export ui from retail

[viscid remnant]

my retail ui is broken

cuz of prepatch

[clear pulsar]

[viscid remnant]

ok it has to be

mw priest or druid

others are too suspect

[grand mesa]

Evoker

[viscid remnant]

TAUREN PRIEST

[grand mesa]

Has to also be on the list imo

[viscid remnant]

idk icant read all of those talents

it doenst make sense

[haughty compass]

Ye

[viscid remnant]

i see blizzard are still racist to 1hand+offhand users

WH DO THEY HAVE SHIAT STATS

they need to add manaburn back to priest

just for the memes

true or true

iam alrdy bored

[grand mesa]

Lollll

[haughty compass]

Retail Davider

NA

[haughty compass]

Also why did they nerf honor gains for alliance?

[grand mesa]

Maybe there’s more alliance 🤷‍♂️

[haughty compass]

Random bgs don’t give shiet

Eitherway, I’m having so much fun 🥰

I can’t tell you how happy it makes me that both specs use the same stats

[grand mesa]

Use the gold I gave u for NA token maybe

[viscid remnant]

whats the use of gametime without having the expansion

ill use it if i end up playing on murica

but can i get 1 queue on beta

[haughty compass]

The greatest lie ever told is David won’t play new expac

[viscid remnant]

wtf i didnt say i wont

in fact i said the opposite

i said ill have to cuz i will get bored of wotlk

[grand mesa]

All David said was he doesn’t know which region

[viscid remnant]

ye

[grand mesa]

So he hasn’t pulled trigger on buying DF yet

[haughty compass]

Ah I see

Forgive, I am old idiot

[clear pulsar]

Dont say that

Good morning pykan how are u

[viscid remnant]

u are idiot not because u are old

because u cannot explain to me what is momentum

[haughty compass]

The nicest thing you have ever said to me

I’m good face, living the dream

[viscid remnant]

FACE log beta

and QUEUE shuffle

I GOT A QUEUE GUYS

after almost 15minutes

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[grand mesa]

LOL

[haughty compass]

Mistweaver seems good in retail Davider no?

[grand mesa]

You can fix that now

[viscid remnant]

ok

i fixed it

almost

[haughty compass]

Don’t you like mw? I forget

[viscid remnant]

SCUFFED

[haughty compass]

@clear pulsar how did Qs end up going last night?

[viscid remnant]

I DIEDEDED

cuz i have wrong trinket

on bar

[haughty compass]

Press on against all odds

[viscid remnant]

also i forgor stamina buff

[clear pulsar]

I was winning, then I crashed twice and lost 300 total rating. Tried dps queues and sat there for 20 mins no game so went bedge

[viscid remnant]

ok disc is cool

i can confirm

[tepid spoke]

playing chad na or pig eu

[clear pulsar]

Im not home davider im at school

[viscid remnant]

iam on beta atm

so 50/50 ?

[haughty compass]

Oof.

[viscid remnant]

WAIT

U CAN PENANCe

WHILE MOVING

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

IFORGOR

[grand mesa]

Wrath rotted ur brain

[tepid spoke]

these wotlk players man

[clear pulsar]

?????

[tepid spoke]

i swear

[clear pulsar]

David plsss

[grand mesa]

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[haughty compass]

David did you see my dracthyr?

[tepid spoke]

hahaha

piglet

[clear pulsar]

Evoker looks really oppressive to face as melee

[tepid spoke]

you wont catch a evoker

as melee

[clear pulsar]

Preservation is a rly cool spec

[tepid spoke]

ya

its fun af

[haughty compass]

Yea pres is fun

Dev is really more of a melee

With that short ass range

[viscid remnant]

also

im MASHING

my dispel button

thjinking that its purging

ROFL

HAHAHAHAHA

its over

im a wrath andy

ok i got hunter

hunted

not a good game

3-2 so far

so alteast iam not going negativ

GG

heroic

mordor beta gamer

XD the op class won all

ok its been fun but iam back to wrath

[grand mesa]

🤢

Making such a critical life changing decision from 1 shuffle

[haughty compass]

Prepatch kinda pointless

But it’s fun

I gotta farm that heirloom trinket. Can I do the bosses more than once a day? Do you know @grand mesa

[grand mesa]

No clue

[viscid remnant]

wdym critical life changing

i alrdy concluded that priest is fun

not much else to do on beta

i suppose i could open beta since it doesnt interfere with wotlk and queue up some more

but what is the point

[tepid spoke]

i dont feel dk being that op

dh/aff for sure more

@grand mesa i need help with ui pls

[viscid remnant]

idk

he was doubling everyone's dmg every game

[grand mesa]

Whatsup

[lime light]

U are on na

Or beta

[grand mesa]

DK is strong

[viscid remnant]

beta

[tepid spoke]

are you using

[grand mesa]

Dk lock dh for sure top 3

[tepid spoke]

nameplatecolors for friendly

[grand mesa]

No I was thinking of loading it today tho

But it’s not updated so it’s throwing a bunch of LUA errors

[haughty compass]

All 3 times I’ve had a match with aff... they won every round

[viscid remnant]

to be honest

if i wasnt a wrath andy

i would do better

[tepid spoke]

which one are u using?

[haughty compass]

Ye ofc

[tepid spoke]

then dont play wrath

its bad habits

game is for old boomers

[viscid remnant]

i forgot to press half my bar cuz it doesnt exist in woltk

[tepid spoke]

with 5 second reaction time

[viscid remnant]

but idk

i dome spear

and ps

[grand mesa]

Won’t take u long to get back into retail shape

[viscid remnant]

on high hp

and die through

fun ?

[tepid spoke]

they need to do something about

leavers

man

the rating loss is not enough

ppl keep leaving still

need to be more severe

or its gonna take the fun away from this

[viscid remnant]

wtf

what if ur house

is catching on fire

are u going to stay in the shuffle

smh

[tepid spoke]

i mean sure, nothing will hapen for one leave once in a while

but ppl just spam leave

when they are losing

its the same as league or any ranked game

if you leave u get penalties

they could probably replace the player that left

for the round too

and if you are that player you just joined round 4/6 or somethign and adjust cr gain

[grand mesa]

I think it won’t be as bad when it’s live s1

No one gives a shit rn

Maybe they juice the deserter more. Like clearly consecutive leaves ur just hard banned on all toons for like 24 hours

To easy to leave and play something else

[grand mesa]

How often does anyone actually get fucked because of non-intentional leaving like DCs or RL stuff

I think I’ve had a disconnect impact the result of my match like maybe 3-4 times in 3 seasons

[viscid remnant]

idk happens to ppl

but u also cant know

if some1 is specifically spam leaving

u cant tell who left

it just ends

no ?

[viscid remnant]

True

Leave log another chat

Char*

X10 times

Problem?

[grand mesa]

Yeah esp if it’s alt friendly and u have all healers

Multiple of same class

U know

[viscid remnant]

Ez game

On eu i have all healers max

And like 5 other dps

Wheres the problem

[grand mesa]

Lmao did that make ur decision for u

Can just /afk and play another healer