ye
#pvp
signal arrow
It was tons of sub rogues outlaw is not so bad just long games as you said
grand mesa
I find sub/assa rogues more annoying than outlaw tbh. Outlaw just punches your butt for 7-8 minutes but doesn’t really do anything
livid wasp
isnt assa shit now with sepsis nerf
grand mesa
But who knows. Apparently with vanish lego nerf they’re going back to dps lego so they might do dam
livid wasp
or do they have other builds idk im clueless kek
grand mesa
You see a lot of necro assassination tbh
viscid remnant
trash or trash no damgur wtf
grand mesa
Trash
That thing only does anything when you do insanely high keys and you’re taking a fuck ton of damage
viscid remnant
tragic couldve done more damgur but had aegis on instead of badger
grand mesa
Once we’re full geared there’s no difference between like an m0 codex or that trinket on a 15. You won’t hit cap
It’s a good nichey trinket to have tho
viscid remnant
man lower kara is so cancer legit cant get a grp good enough to time it
do u get anything for all 10 btw
like title or something
livid wasp
pvers get permanent titles 😦
viscid remnant
I guess thats cool if ur a rogue or something
livid wasp
isnt 2000 m+ rating easy to get too towards the end of the season
grand mesa
Super easy
viscid remnant
Ye
signal arrow
isnt 2000 m+ rating easy to get too towards the end of the season
It's super easy even week 2 lol
livid wasp
then theres the pvp equivalent of that..
grand mesa
Especially the last 2 seasons with tier
Everyone’s damage is bonkers it’s impossible to scuff
grand mesa
And until this season I’ve always been week 2 KSM it’s so easy
viscid remnant
Wdym by that
livid wasp
its keystone master and the mount
grand mesa
Yeah
livid wasp
pvers have this game so easy haha
grand mesa
Well this game is made for us
signal arrow
And until this season I’ve always been week 2 KSM it’s so easy
SoD Tier I had full mythic raid gear before i got KSM really didn't wanna do M+ lmao
viscid remnant
pvers have this game so easy haha
So true
grand mesa
I realized idk if I can only pvp main like I want to cause blizz hates pvpers lmao
livid wasp
I dont really care for mounts so not gonna bother with m+ but s till
grand mesa
That’s what I’ve been enjoying
viscid remnant
Farming mounts is a scam invented by blizzard to make u do old content
grand mesa
Glyph
If I ever get too old or kid family time gets too demanding idk if I can raid anymore
But I could def arena
viscid remnant
Look at feji doing content from 10 years ago for a mount he will never use cuz he has travel form
Thats true glyph
livid wasp
kek
signal arrow
Boosting as healer seems hard
That's what's stopping me too
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I only boost guildies who know how to do dmg
grand mesa
That could do dam. Or I try the markers shit
tropic schooner
Yea don't think boosting as healer is hard at all
signal arrow
I think it's much easier as rogue or windwalker or something though
viscid remnant
If ur guy doesnt do damgur u need kyrian priest
grand mesa
WW seems so good for boosting
viscid remnant
Ye on mordor
grand mesa
Sepsis rogue was probably great too
grand mesa
Not that I would ever boost. I’d just swipe instead lol. Debating if I want to go nuts on 3 raids worth of boes glyph lol
But hard to justify for short Mickey Mouse season
signal arrow
I saw your logs glyph when I was checking resto talents for Sludgefist lmao
grand mesa
I got to dps boomkin first time since sylv
Was so nice
We didn’t do mythic just heroic. But every boss fucking dies before 3min mark its so infuriating
I think half the core is super burnt out so alot taking break until DF
myself included
It’s kinda rough for late CE guilds cause we’re always in prog mode
Get a few weeks at best. Then next raid
Yeah I’m sure once we get more ilvl we’ll pop in there to try it
Just think there’s any interest in anything prog related even if it’s much easier than the first time around
grand mesa
I saw this WA again my eyes glazed over
signal arrow
He said all the raids will be active?
grand mesa
Get me out
grand mesa
Yeah eventually they all unlock
grand mesa
Yeah on rotation for now
Lmaoooo
That’s a lot of bosses every week fuck
We never got sepulcher skip 🥲
I do want to try sunking as resto
Hit those 1 million swiftmends
Ya nourish is big
That’s how pvers discovered floral recycling is bugged with VI
And counts all hots
signal arrow
That’s how pvers discovered floral recycling is bugged with VI
I didn't know that lol
signal arrow
I listened to glyph and replaced my floral recycling
grand mesa
Rookie move
signal arrow
Damn I could have been cranking a lot harder swiftmends in pvP
grand mesa
Yeah apparently flourish aswarm affects it too
So if you juice the hots then mend you crank big swiftmend
Feels way better too having a stronger instant cast heal
Pvers never play VI
signal arrow
I do want to try sunking as resto
I did Sun King the main issue is mana if you don't have enough pumper healers
grand mesa
So they didn’t know
signal arrow
I ran oom towards the end :(( and I didn't play Niya
grand mesa
But floral recycling apparently is counting all the hots for swiftmend value
Not just the 2pc
Like you presume
grand mesa
It does without VI
That’s how people are hitting 1 million swiftmend
On sunking
They play necro and adaptive swarm flourish
signal arrow
You told me they are trolling 
I swapped off it
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Why you gotta kick me when I'm down XD
viscid remnant
batchest
viscid remnant
a little conduit difference
grand mesa
@clear pulsar
clear pulsar
VI
Makes floral recycling consider healing from all hots or something
I tested it a bunch 2 days ago on a dummy
viscid remnant
🤓
face since u are here i have q for u
if a ferel puts sickle on target and after gets pi does it increase the damgur of sickle or not
grand mesa
Should be dynamic
signal arrow
Yeah
clear pulsar
I have no idea
signal arrow
It probably did
grand mesa
Granted pvers never used either
clear pulsar
if a ferel puts sickle on target and after gets pi does it increase the damgur o...
Yes
signal arrow
I mean nothing was changed
about either VI or Floral
so it must have been like that since release
clear pulsar
Nothing snapshots sickle, not even tigers fury
viscid remnant
cool to know thanks
clear pulsar
I mean nothing was changed
Coulda been some behind the curtain thing they tried to make when they put out 2p bonus
grand mesa
Sunking logs gonna get conduit nerfed 😂
viscid remnant
was playing with ep and he said i need to pi before he berserks i told him its the same shiat
clear pulsar
To make the conduit remain sort of relevant
signal arrow
Coulda been some behind the curtain thing they tried to make when they put out 2...
That's true I guess
clear pulsar
Since the 2p hot does literally 900 healing total
grand mesa
was playing with ep and he said i need to pi before he berserks i told him its t...
100% same shit
signal arrow
Sunking logs gonna get conduit nerfed 😂
I didn't swap it in cause I thought it would be shit lmao
Next reclear imma pump some big swiftmends
grand mesa
Ya u should people hitting 800k-1m swiftmendies
signal arrow
I mean you'd think it just consumes the 2 piece hot and does 0 healing
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Or something idk I’m boomkin now
You're a what?
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Trusting the tooltip
Haha yeah
grand mesa
I just dabbled raid healing for fun last tier
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Hahaha I’ve always been a boomkin main
Ahhh lmao I see
grand mesa
And also our healers are tragic and I wanted to see if I could do better
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didn't know that 😄
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And also our healers are tragic and I wanted to see if I could do better
And did you ? haha
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Now I dunno if that yeah is in answer to David or me XD
grand mesa
It’s easy as dps to stare at your feet all fight
Fucking pantheon I got knocked around like a rag doll in the beginning
Those ducking soulshape lines
signal arrow
Lol
grand mesa
It was yeah to both lol
signal arrow
The soul shape lines were my nemesis in a few tries too
it felt like they perfectly predicted my movement
when I was just an idiot
grand mesa
My issue is
I spent
2 years in SL
Not caring about the color blue
And those soul shape models
Then they’re bad
For exactly one right
Fight
signal arrow
Fair XD
grand mesa
God u remember early SL when u had no clue what anything did
I was dodging ashen hollows and resonating arrows and running away from shifting power
Like crazy early dungeons
signal arrow
haha I don't really remember that time
clear pulsar
I mean you'd think it just consumes the 2 piece hot and does 0 healing
Regrowth > lifebloom > rejuv > swiftmend
13.6k without floral
17.1k with floral but without VI
26.3k with floral and VI
Exact same cast sequence everytime
I unequipped 2p bonus for this so it wouldnt fuck with the result due to randomly procing insta on one rejuv but not on another
grand mesa
@vestal citrus
clear pulsar
Same stats on allt, I just equipped UFR leggo that's also haste vers instead of VI
grand mesa
I also think it’s super significant tbh. When I went back to it this past week. Some swiftmend were big enough that I was able to hold NS for next go or whatever. It felt easy mode after having piss weak SM all last tier
signal arrow
Regrowth > lifebloom > rejuv > swiftmend
13.6k without floral
17.1k with floral ...
Yeah I know man I'm just saying if you're reading the tooltip that should not be how it works 😄 but I know now that it's obviously bugged
logs don't lie
clear pulsar
Yeah
grand mesa
So pvpers who just ignore shit and just stuck to what they know were right the whole time
clear pulsar
It also considers ALL hots
Not only the swiftmendable ones
So the conduit is nerfed in pvp but this is just without CW, without Swarm even, 2p bonus, WG from overgrowth, etc.
signal arrow
insane
grand mesa
Tranq hot
signal arrow
I can pump 40k swiftmends no biggie
grand mesa
Not that you would tranq for masteru tick nowadays
signal arrow
and that's non crit
clear pulsar
Like LB + rejuv is a bigger swiftmend than rg + rejuv, both same mastery stacks but VI is making floral count the lb heal too which is a bigger hot ofc
signal arrow
I just got a 120k swiftmend but not in arena lol
clear pulsar
Any swiftmenders?
viscid remnant
grand mesa
I’ve already increasingly started using flourish more and more tbh
clear pulsar
When I started healing keys
I always played germ cuz I was used to it from pvp
Now when I heal solo shuffle
I never play germ cuz I'm not used to it anymore
tardy hare
Gg
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lool
tardy hare
Rofl
signal arrow
What is the casual boost buyer looking like though? Is it those "I used to be glad in Wrath myself you know" type of players? Or is it more like PvE players wanting gear upgrades? Or people that just wanna brag?
I never boosted PvP so I'm curious
It has to be someone with a lot of gold that's for sure
grand mesa
We love oilers
obtuse bramble
swipe card, you get gold. So the hurdle for that's not that high
grand mesa
How many were decent players on fresh alts that just cba doing LFG or waiting for friends
Personally that’s the only time I’ve bought boost on pve side. Brand new toon. Buying heroics
signal arrow
ah yeah that's fair
haughty compass
Some of the worst players I’ve ran into had glad mounts
grand mesa
Hopefully I eventually have the skills/small network of buddies to get glad consistently
Only thing hanging over my head this game now haha
I’m pretty confident in 2s but 3s is a diff beast
grand mesa
Lmao
signal arrow
XD
tropic schooner
Ppl be insecure
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Atleast it's just a persona then
tropic schooner
Atleast it's just a persona then
That's not really true and also not better
I'd say it's worse
Cause that would mean you intentionally do it instead of "accidentally"
signal arrow
I feel it's like the old tyler1 toxicity
Where he does it because it made him popular I guess
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Lol that emoji
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I watch his youtube videos sometimes when I'm in the mood to laugh at something dumb tbh
But I'd never be a regular on his stream lol
viscid remnant
when he was banned off twitch
he reacted to some videos and it was funny
xqc is braindmg
tropic schooner
Mies and drainer for wow streamers I know
Are some of the worst
Can't watch that
viscid remnant
Cannot do more, flawless gameplay, the drainer special, cringe my eyes, I literally don't care, taiga inting, get away from me weirdos, 1v9 as usual, I can't be arsed with these faking people, we lost go next, don't come near me EVER again, nobody important died, negative damage detected, I'll have to do it my god-damn self, OOM need to drink if they die it's not my problem.
obtuse bramble
Drainer is not as bonkers braindamaged as the mies though
obtuse bramble
was directed at Ente
grand mesa
I don’t care what anyone says
The clip with mies getting convoked from stealth
Is my favorite from SL
obtuse bramble
Drainer I can watch for entertainment, mies, I can't
tropic schooner
Style might be different but both negative 24/7
tropic schooner
Sure I hate both
If you try to be an educational streamer and don't accept your own mistakes you are just shitty in my opinion
obtuse bramble
I was a bit surprised the last time I watched drainer, he often callen "whoops" when he did missplays
But yeh, I like streamers like mes way more as they are very positive AND analytical
grand mesa
I actually watch mies cause of gameplay
He’s really good
I just ignore the spitting and loogies and the screaming
obtuse bramble
that's the thing though, they're very fluent with verbalizing their thinking processes and their decision making. But they are indeed very blind to their own mistakes sometimes AND at least mies is such a strain to the ear that it gets super exhausting to watch
clear pulsar
Dude its fucking unreal that he plays with those frames
I think gekz does too!?
But at least his are like gigantic
It looks giga silly lol
signal arrow
Yeah I think mies legit doesn't really look at the frames
It's crazy how he can still tell what's going on tbh despite his toxicity his game knowledge is pretty insane
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Same, I'd be lost without big debuffs and my UI
tiny oar
The clip with mies getting convoked from stealth
U got a link?
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Haha yeah
haughty compass
Basically how I was one of the first to hit 2.1 in season 1.
Disc / moonkin. He’d just dark arc me and we’d win immediately
tiny oar
Holy shit lmao
haughty compass
Didn’t play the rest of the season
grand mesa
Conc aura or bop to cover kicks
signal arrow
You just Blessing of summer + Forgotten queen
Or aura mastery
yeah
And BOP
But also no one knew what blessing of summer did so no one played NF XD
haughty compass
My friend plays priest 🤷♂️
signal arrow
My friend plays priest 🤷♂️
Look at you having friends that play PvP ^^ all my friends are PvE only andies
Sadge
grand mesa
My friends say they want to arena then celebrate birthday months and disappear
grand mesa
My other buddies are all raiders and fucking start foaming at the mouth losing their mind if they get CC’d more than once or lose a second of melee uptime
haughty compass
Most of my wow buddies get hyped for new expac and play for about 2 months
grand mesa
I feel like that’s common
haughty compass
I have 2 that are arena degens like me
grand mesa
Shadowlands hype was actually p big
signal arrow
My other buddies are all raiders and fucking start foaming at the mouth losing t...
I played with my mate and he was confused how warriors don't have 100% conquerors banner uptime in PvP lmao
signal arrow
I have 2 that are arena degens like me
That's big I hope the SV hunter I met in LFG last season starts playing again
then we can push
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Yeah lmao
signal arrow
yeah
grand mesa
So much easier than dh rdru lmao
Where I just get the Shit kicked out of me for 7-8 and pray dh kills
Healer race every time lol
viscid remnant
I am pretty sure if u trap into stun into 3x clone he can trap again if he times it right
Its braindam
haughty compass
My buddy is a dk/priest and other is a lock
signal arrow
But if you get 3x clone off the enemy dps is afk idk
grand mesa
Yeah clone low
viscid remnant
Idk happened to me a few times
haughty compass
I actually think moonkin aff priest might be ok this season
grand mesa
Then pet stun/bash is back lol
viscid remnant
The dps couldnt kick me
haughty compass
Or feral aff priest
viscid remnant
Too heroic
haughty compass
Yea man
livid wasp
how do you feral pvp tho
viscid remnant
Press damgur win
signal arrow
Does affli play the drain life lego?
Cause I assume he's gonna be targeted a lot with that comp
grand mesa
That casting circle
signal arrow
in 2's I'm also never sure if we face aff / healer if we should go aff or just tunnel heal cause aff feels so hard to kill
Yeah that's the issue
but game goes like 7+ min if we go aff
grand mesa
I don’t mind aff in 2s with DH
signal arrow
With dh it's fine yeah
grand mesa
But we have reverse he’s tanky vs magic and I just frenzy regen after dispels
signal arrow
With DH I won every affli matchup I think
grand mesa
Ya
haughty compass
Aff + mind games in 2s is nasty
signal arrow
Oh yeah
grand mesa
Aff + mind games in 2s is nasty
That fucking murdered me
https://clips.twitch.tv/AlluringIronicWallabyDatSheffy-0j5-jp8RvvlqGJ6R
Try to never link my own shit but I just clapped myself with a 44k ua dispel lmao
Adjustment I think is if it’s MG+ DSM UA I have to wait for DH reverse
viscid remnant
holocausted
livid wasp
I didnt know you streamed
unborn hedge
signal arrow
If you cast it before he starts to tranq
it will keep damaging I think
not 100% sure though that's a good question
grand mesa
I didnt know you streamed
I don’t advertise stream I just do it for me lol. Treat it like a video journal of gaming adventures
livid wasp
I stream for educational purposes
grand mesa
You accumulate a lot of fond memories
From clips and highlights
Over the years
Diff games
grand mesa
That’s why I do it
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I just have this clip saved hahaha
grand mesa
Will follow
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I am the resto druid in the enemy team
I just think it's very funny how the streamer got so mad lol
livid wasp
I never check cause I dont wanna get sad seeing them talk shit about me
haughty compass
I’ve seen puzzle lose to markers once
grand mesa
“I can’t believe I lost to a back peddling DH man….”
Twice
We got him back to back
Ducking arcane mage feral aff bro
grand mesa
You never ask me
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Hahaha
grand mesa
I KEEP telling y’all you have my staff
grand mesa
Neither am I
haughty compass
Trying to get good first
signal arrow
I KEEP telling y’all you have my staff
Your staff? XD
haughty compass
😏
signal arrow
Is that like some Expression that I don't know? lmao
grand mesa
You have my sword
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Ahhh
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But you are on US man 😦
grand mesa
For his arcane adventures
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Would love to play with ya
grand mesa
Surely they’ll x-region soon
haughty compass
Lol oh god
viscid remnant
its so cancer
when u pug
and iam top dps as tank
ppl legit dont know how to press 123
damgur on maiden
can u tell who was leader from this pic
clear pulsar
It’s nice to watch how bad I am
Hey dont say that bro
You shouldnt say you're bad dont put yourself down like that
Leave it to me I'll do it
grand mesa
What isn’t face worked up about hahaha
viscid remnant
real
crystal forge
grand mesa
Hi Trevvie
crystal forge
Morning
grand mesa
Ah I missed Tuesday vault anxiety
haughty compass
I always expect im going to get 3 adapt trinkets
grand mesa
Offhand would be ok
haughty compass
yea
livid wasp
I wouldve got weapon
grand mesa
Cause u can buy MH anyway
haughty compass
zechey in shambles
grand mesa
I’m super curious what the weekly cap is. I’m done work for the day so I’ll camp the login screen and keep y’all posted
haughty compass
lol
grand mesa
😀
crystal forge
I’m super curious what the weekly cap is. I’m done work for the day so I’ll camp...
3600
im calling it now
grand mesa
I’m hoping Atleast just 1200 again
But 3600 would be nice lol. Snag duelist this week and then just shuffle like crazy to upgrade stuff
haughty compass
back from beyond almost done, 2 raids to go... I may even take a wow break after that
Unless I can find a sweaty group to push
2.4 before I leave my druid in shadowlands for the scalie life
grand mesa
Say it ain’t so
clear pulsar
Bro yall gotta stop takling shit
Or you might catch these hands
@haughty compass
I aint never upset man
crystal forge
ill swing with Face
crystal forge
clear pulsar
Or another type of swinging
crystal forge
viscid remnant
me when ep dont log
lime light
He retired
viscid remnant
grand mesa
Fuji came online in eu just at the right time
haughty compass
I aint never upset man
And you say I can’t take a joke
clear pulsar
Yes, case in point
haughty compass
We’re Doug. Well
clear pulsar
haughty compass
What the hell did my smart text even try to say
crystal forge
Honour
Just farm honour and keep upgrading the pieces you should get 285 ilvl in pvp with no tier so maybe 275 with 4pc roughly
raven otter
guys how the F do i play against priest/Rog as rdru/x? mostly hunter,warr,ww
i just feel like they do one go and i have no trinket and im dead. he purges all my hots except for cen ward which is not enough to save him
grand mesa
Have to space defensive between u and partner
Stay away from your partner
So if rogue does CC one he has to waddle to other some
viscid remnant
is this some kind of pve trinket damgur
clear pulsar
Thats self dmg
crystal forge
Isn’t that the staff
clear pulsar
Its a weapon yo
grand mesa
That’s the pve staff
viscid remnant
lmao
crystal forge
Lmao
clear pulsar
Its horrible
crystal forge
Imagine taking a bite dmg for int LOL
clear pulsar
Cuz its underbudgeted
So not even for pve
Only possibly good for disc
In raid
And maybe something sketchy like fire mage
grand mesa
Wdym every treevoke u zap urself for big ramp
grand mesa
Oh if voulk said I trust
clear pulsar
And voulk is good at math I trust him
grand mesa
Voulk and jundarer I trust unequivocally
grand mesa
Earthen wall??
clear pulsar
For it to be good, you need more than 50% of your healing to be done in those 15s windows. It may be good enough to compete with regular weapons but it's much worse than antoomber
clear pulsar
as dmg
It does self damage when you activate it so idk
Light of the martyr shows too
crystal forge
Puzzle day game with me after reset
crystal forge
crystal forge
U LITERALLY DONT EVEN PLAY WITH ME
grand mesa
You don’t ask me face
I didn’t even know u pvp this season
Too busy necro bearing or something
raven otter
So if rogue does CC one he has to waddle to other some
what if he smoke bombs?
grand mesa
I made an alt druid so I can play with anyone 🥰 just hit me up
grand mesa
what if he smoke bombs?
Tranq flourish goes thru bomb
But chance that might be your partners trinket
You can incap roar the duel if you know where the two of them are
clear pulsar
I didn’t even know u pvp this season
Doesnt have to be pvp man
But I did like 10 games of 2s, 10 of 3s, and 3 mes viewer rbgs
Big gaming
ebon swan
Just farm honour and keep upgrading the pieces you should get 285 ilvl in pvp wi...
I can’t farm honor
grand mesa
I’m not a big key doer this season tbh. I’m so fed up with keys hahaha
ebon swan
from waht
clear pulsar
I gamed so hard this week man
ebon swan
My gear is suck
clear pulsar
I can’t farm honor
Spam solo shuffle
crystal forge
I can’t farm honor
go int solo shuffles
clear pulsar
As long as you hvae shadowlands gear (like auction house stuff works) you get scaled up to 260 or so
crystal forge
and rando bgs
ebon swan
I can’t win at all my health is 30k
viscid remnant
I gamed so hard this week man
sheesh
clear pulsar
Yeah stop playing with BFA gear
ebon swan
And all people are playing solo shuffle now cuz quest
grand mesa
Part of the wow pvp experience is to get shit on until you get the gear to turn around and shit on other people
viscid remnant
face
grand mesa
That’ll get u into upscale territory
clear pulsar
I did 33 keys
cedar horizon
Full honor gear gives 285 gear but till then id reccomend the shade gear at 233 item lvl
ebon swan
That’ll get u into upscale territory
Tmr how much is max for conquest in arena
clear pulsar
Only 2 lowers tho it doesnt drop anything
grand mesa
No clue I’ll find out in a few hours
tiny oar
There’s a vendor that gives 226
Maybe ur right about the neon sign bro
clear pulsar
15 lower was totally fine to heal and time
ebon swan
Full honor gear gives 285 gear but till then id reccomend the shade gear at 233 ...
To reach that much u need crazy amount of honor
grand mesa
THATS WHAT IM SAYING
clear pulsar
Moroes was a bit overtuned but it's fine for a 15 absolutely
cedar horizon
Idk i max out honor pretty quick
clear pulsar
Solo shuffle is rly quick honor farm
viscid remnant
man idk im trying to pug lower and its the most cancer thing ive experienced in life i might have to go to doctor to check if i got cancer
crystal forge
Ou i get get pvp wep on monk this week
clear pulsar
Spam yolo rbgs too if you want
crystal forge
gaming
grand mesa
To reach that much u need crazy amount of honor
You’re a healer you’ll insta pop. Once u get decent gear you’ll do 3-3
cedar horizon
I just spam bgs and rbgs like yolos
grand mesa
Atleast
And then that’s easy honor
I did a 15k cap in not even a few hours on my alt druid and it had like 60k hp the whole time
clear pulsar
man idk im trying to pug lower and its the most cancer thing ive experienced in ...
Yeah I didnt pug much, played with guildies, friends from bfa, friends from dreamgrove fam
The dungeon is fine just has a lot of avoidable frontals
grand mesa
As a tank I love to point frontals at my friends
clear pulsar
They're nerfing the big heal check and removing the bullshit tank buster thing from it today
tiny oar
Yea pugging lower was pure hell bro
grand mesa
They give me shit all the time for it. I get too ADADADAD and move around when tanking cause I’m so bored
tiny oar
My highest timef lower was a 3 last week @clear pulsar 
clear pulsar
They give me shit all the time for it. I get too ADADADAD and move around when ...
Maybe its time to start playing necro instead of venthyr then
Cant blame you for being bored with guardian but it's a self inflicted curse
grand mesa
For 15s I’ll play whatever tbh. Maybe I’ll try necro
Bear
See if it’s good
U do GG?
clear pulsar
Only if giga easy key
viscid remnant
idk face with pugs that do no damgur
clear pulsar
Incarn is too good
viscid remnant
feels really awful
clear pulsar
But maybe some of these new dungeons dont even allow you
To do decent pulls with incarn
viscid remnant
every boss feels extremely hard with ppl that have no brain
grand mesa
Most I’ll do is 15s tbh this season
clear pulsar
Like idk workshop, what do you even pull
cedar horizon
Would love to see boomies do big dmg
grand mesa
And they’ll be jokes anywya so
clear pulsar
Boomie players have 0 loyalty to the spec, so all the competent ones rerolled and the spec looks much worse on data than its ceiling can be
cedar horizon
True
grand mesa
Wdym I’m forever boomkin
clear pulsar
It's insane how abhorrently whiny boomies are the moment they arent top tier and then they just reroll it's so cringe
clear pulsar
Dude
grand mesa
Boomkin was solid middle upper middle all of BFA and just happy to be there
clear pulsar
Every single time I asked anything in the balance channel
grand mesa
These SL boomkins are all fotm
clear pulsar
The immediate answer is
"Doesnt matter the spec is trash go play warlock"
Deadass
tiny oar
It's insane how abhorrently whiny boomies are the moment they arent top tier and...
Complete opposite of feral lol
clear pulsar
It's so fucking bizarre
cedar horizon
Naw he aint wrong
grand mesa
I don’t recognize any of those names from the BFA days just saying
I was brought for decent ST and innervate
And happy to be there
Lmao
clear pulsar
Boomkin was solid middle upper middle all of BFA and just happy to be there
Boomie was absolutely top tier s1 of BFA. The moment they were mid they didnt stop whining for starfall buffs man idk.
cedar horizon
Iv swapped to my mw when my boomy hits the wall in 2s
clear pulsar
Innervate and ranged
grand mesa
@vestal citrus
grand mesa
You didn’t starfall over starsurge until like 11 targets
cedar horizon
I can still burst people 100 -0 but then i dont do much after i gotta swap from kill to pure cloning or ccing for my team
clear pulsar
Just saying tho the spec can do better than people linking their 15k overalls
Well
You dont like that?
cedar horizon
Pve boomies are fine
clear pulsar
I like that
Tbh
You could play necro circle (or pulsar) boomie with an aff lock and rot people
Spam dots etc
It isnt fun imo but maybe you'd like it
grand mesa
I’d 100% play kyrian and self bond rn if I played boomkin
clear pulsar
Swarms disperse too much with that many targets, may break cc, people spamming polies all the time removing dots maybe!?
Swarm affects everything on a boomie meter except wrath starfire starsurge
And moons I suppose
Full moon
clear pulsar
Also affects the direct hit of dots, like moonfire, or thrash
Not only the dot portion
grand mesa
Thank god swarm and circle carrying over next expac
stray sigil
@viscid remnant i am a hero
viscid remnant
yes u are
grand mesa
@stray sigil I’m in bed are servers up yet
grand mesa
Extended maintenance
clear pulsar
Another 2h
grand mesa
It’s ok we’ll bug test for you guys so you have normal maintenance
haughty compass
Can’t wait for my avoidance adapt trinket in vault
viscid remnant
I saw the msgs feji
grand mesa
I see through ur reverse psychology play you wily old codger
viscid remnant
U are a hero
But idk how u get tier
Without pveing
Q is
Can u do damgur in pve
Or not
grand mesa
Just heal keys
Rdruid is the most tier agnostic
Out of all 4 for keys
Most key doers don’t even run 4pc
viscid remnant
Interesting
U hear what hes saying fejer
And i can tank on my druid
Trade u gear
grand mesa
Too much mastery when u 4pc tier as rdru
viscid remnant
Quite heroic
grand mesa
Just go swarm everything and dps in cat. Once in a while u come out to swiftmend to sotf wg
Then go back cat
safe heart
I've made it pretty far just mend sotf wg
viscid remnant
Traj
safe heart
Solves all problems
viscid remnant
maybe after vault
lime light
after vault
holy fuck
i swear
i need to teach u both
how to live the live
i log
There is a sign on the wall
but she wants to be sure
lime light
ok dude
the game feels like private server
when u q
not ghetto mmr 3s
i mean
2k is ghetto
but the q is 5 min
XD
tiny oar
how to live the live
Are we gonna go bar hopping EP?
tardy hare
We need dreamgrove bar
lime light
?
viscid remnant
nev seen that in my life
stray sigil
thats the only thing i can drink without puking in my mouth
tardy hare
The fuck is palm bays
stone breach
Is it more like Smirnoff or more like white claw?
stone breach
Oh, Google says vodka
stone breach
Is the sweetness a 2 or a 10
stray sigil
idk like a 5
its not super sweet like juice
but it tastes better than whiteclaw
less alcooly
grand mesa
hrm
stone breach
I've never heard of it but I'll keep my eyes open
stray sigil
popular drink with uh
teenagers
cuz its kinda not expensive
like whiteclaw kinda expensive
livid wasp
22 hours 27 minutes
stray sigil
are u ok
wdym
i am kinda thirsty now
but i left all of mine at my friends saturday
stone breach
22 hours 27 minutes
grand mesa
hahaha zechey
crystal forge
hes starting to count down his ban timer rofl
i wonder if he will get banned again
stone breach
hes starting to count down his ban timer rofl
Starting?
Zechey first posted it at like 6 days 22 hours
viscid remnant
hm its a good day today
livid wasp
thanks for beta testing NA
viscid remnant
fejer physically cant log na
dark vigil
is there a addon similar to badkitty for ferals? I dont know why they discontinued that
but i need something to help me keep track ofm y bleeds
grand mesa
grand mesa
but i need something to help me keep track ofm y bleeds
There’s millions of WA to choose from in that regard
Part of the reason why addons like That have been discontinued is that WA replaced them
livid wasp
tidyplates
dark vigil
hmm so if i download weakauras i can choose a feral loadout?
livid wasp
I remember when I was an absoltue noob in wotlk and I did pve as feral
I had some addon that told me what to use next lul
grand mesa
After you download WA
And u find something that suits u
This is a PVErs approach btw
A lot of pvpers don’t use rotational central WAs for some reason I’ll never understand
crystal forge
wdym like hekili?
grand mesa
I heard hekili is actually p good for feral
stone breach
Pls no
dark vigil
i just need it because ferals have so many dots and bleeds so i wanna make sure ones not missing or i forgot to refresh it
stone breach
I think you mean more like the luxthos/afenar packs, yea?
grand mesa
Yes
dark vigil
can i use Tellmewhen instead of weak auras?
crystal forge
rotational helper addons are good for a week but you should learn the rotation after that
oh they are against UI WAs
stone breach
You probably want either Luxthos/Afenar packs or a good nameplate profile
crystal forge
i read that as like hekili
stone breach
Pvpers used to be against all addons
grand mesa
Bro. U cannot shit talk hekili when we spent all of 9.1 and 9.2 using jundarers venthyr cooldowns and frenzy filler WAs that worked exactly the same way
😂😂😂😂
stone breach
Hekili isn't the same imo
grand mesa
It told u whether to spam wrath or starfire. And when to use IQD berserking fury of elune Int potion
It’s pretty darn similar
dark vigil
lol so pvp isnt really rotational its way to fast paced, this is just for me to keep track. else I'm looking at like 6 small squares I can't even tell if its rip rake or something else thats gonna expire... then boom the enemy yeets me and my focus is gone... when i see the bars its easier on my eyes
crystal forge
so i never used it
dark vigil
so can I use tellmewhen instead of weakauras as a feral pvper?
grand mesa
Sure
crystal forge
i mean TMW died when WAs became prevalent so
grand mesa
If ur more comfy with that yeah u can do that
crystal forge
its up to you but WAs are updated constantly there are more of them and they are just easier to use
grand mesa
I made my own TMW for fury that worked like luxthos and afenar because I didn’t like the way either of them looked
In bfa. It’s def possible
dark vigil
hmm and they show diminishing returns too? and if an enemy is casting something on you? and for instance if a warrior is enraged?
grand mesa
Those are different addons
U want like gladius/sarena or possibly diminish with nameplate anchoring to track DRs
Warrior enraged is gonna be a bigdebuffs/nameplates thing
dark vigil
tellmewhen tracks diminishing returns but maybe i should get diminish instead?
grand mesa
Enemy casting on you isn’t always reliable because a lot of folks use focus arena macros
dark vigil
lastly im just a bit skeptical with WA because i heard it really uses a lot of cpu true or false?
grand mesa
Which there is no way of displaying if they’re casting clone on arena1 if you’re arena1
stone breach
Only badly written WAs
stone breach
You want the teea alerts 100%
grand mesa
But if u go with luxthos or luckyone or the bigger coders with very popular WAs
You won’t have an issue
stone breach
dark vigil
teaa alerts?
dark vigil
okay awesome guys i am gonna go ahead and get diminished and weak auros and use the feral code you provided 🙂
stone breach
So you know whether to peel or run
dark vigil
also can i get rid of power auras?
stone breach
Power auras stopped being useful sometime around 3 expansions ago
Weakaura supercedes it
dark vigil
So you know whether to peel or run
hmmm ok lol lemme reiterate whats a tea alert? and how would it help you decide on whether to peel or run?
grand mesa
It’s the name of the WA
dark vigil
okay lmaooo no wonder... imma returning player after 10 years so ill be sure to do that
grand mesa
A WA can be many different things that’s the power of it
ThAt particular WA tracks the abilities the 2-3 enemies use and if they pop anything big
It’ll give you a warning
And who they’re targeting with it
dark vigil
Click this link
oh thats beautiful thanks!
grand mesa
It’s also color coded for levels of danger
But idk how accurate that will be nowadays
grand mesa
Well some things will still be true but it was last updated in February
So things have become not as scary or new things have become scarier since then
dark vigil
lastly still get diminished right? because i read you could make dimenishing return auras with WA but it may be better through diminished
dark vigil
So things have become not as scary or new things have become scarier since then
ahhh makes sense
grand mesa
Maybe something like this
Simple just bleeds
It’s a 2020 wa so maybe trev comment about how it might be outdated
dark vigil
thanks
gleaming cradle
how y'all feeling about rdru in pvp for df
grand mesa
I felt good about it then I saw the other class trees
stray sigil
grand mesa
But I think it could be numerically really strong just doesn’t look sexy
Some of the healing nodes are cracked
And vigil is nuts for damage
gleaming cradle
that's what i was talking to my pal about, i was like if we're overtuned we will be crazy but
i mean we have a kick now which is kinda dumb lmao
gleaming cradle
they're going to nerf it 100%
livid wasp
I wasnt thinking when I asked that
grand mesa
My first attempt at a build is gonna be 45 yard defensive pve lord with 2 lifeblooms that give triple mastery and see how that feels. Might not touch feral side of general tree
crystal forge
wtb servers
gleaming cradle
im too ooga booga brain to even know wtf the lifebloom thing is
livid wasp
rdruid with kick tho? pff
gleaming cradle
the question i have about vigil is like
can you literally just innverate and pump and kill someone
or does it have to be like missing health