resto

[half latch]

Swiftmend basically on cd on ourselves?

[thorn plover]

you want to cast SM as much as humanly possible

[half latch]

Gotcha

[thorn plover]

and youll spend sotf on rejuv like 99.9% of the time

[abstract tulip]

the server keeps crashing makes me nervous to try to do a hard m+ key

[hearty coral]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/YHfLtp6XP3CDVAcR?fight=52&type=healing

beat the paladins

on a terrible pull for me

if only we did it 2 pulls before

[abstract tulip]

grats on killing it though!

[abstract tulip]

man if my co-healers were like your co-healers we would all be 90% parsing. that shaman and that other monk buttercups... total carrys

that was on the other fights though

[radiant narwhal]

I use 1 for lifebloom and shift + 1 for @self lifebloom

[thorn plover]

Birb is ded

[hearty coral]

Nice

How many pulls was alleria and bird for you

[thorn plover]

65

[hearty coral]

Both?

[thorn plover]

alleria was 63, bird was 65

what a boring fight as a healer tho

holy crap

[hearty coral]

I wonder how many weeks behind my guild is from that

I'm not 100% on how to estimate if we might CE or not

[rustic copper]

time for the real boss

[thorn plover]

the only one of the season

lol

[abstract tulip]

im like aboomkin now in raid and im pretty bad at being a boomkin. it feelsbad

[thorn plover]

5 crafted items is optimal right? 🤣

[abstract tulip]

i just got my nexus rings this week!

next week i get to farm the MT one

[thorn plover]

i got lucky on rings

i get to farm weapon this week

[abstract tulip]

i had to craft a cloak. no mythic cloak entire season

[thorn plover]

yeah i crafted a cloak early

[abstract tulip]

i feel like i do things so inefficently

[thorn plover]

im using crafted neck, shoulders, cloak, bracer, weapon atm lmao

[abstract tulip]

ill max out a heroic piece. just for a mythic upgrade the next week

[thorn plover]

you should do that anyways, saves myth crests

[abstract tulip]

do you bonus roll in m+?

[thorn plover]

ive only sent 2 bonus rolls in m+ so far

i bonus rolled alleria, and chim 3x

[abstract tulip]

ah i used a lot of m+ bonus rolls

[thorn plover]

i shouldnt have bonus rolled chim for as long as i did

[radiant narwhal]

I think there were a few very good bosses this tier

they just got hit with the nerf bad

and the 5% increased damage and healing everyone just has on top of insane ilvl

[abstract tulip]

lets hope my guild can kill more bosses this week. we got chim down as a guild finally

i pugged it since april

[wary belfry]

You're allowed to join a new guild if youre not happy with current rate of progression

[proven phoenix]

I feel bad for healers that pull these bosses when they're super toned down but also yeah exactly that

[abstract tulip]

gl finding a guild that will take a tank and a healer/boomkin that gray parses

[proven phoenix]

the better guilds you join the more fun healing becomes

[wicked veldt]

what happened to crazymeow 2 through 3

[wary belfry]

Crazymeow 2 is still around

Marvel killed 3

[wicked veldt]

thats not very nice

[abstract tulip]

but if i could find a guild that would take my husband and i we would but it more fun to complain tbh

[wary belfry]

Fair, complaining is pretty fun

[proven phoenix]

yeah I think joining guilds as a duo is kinda cooked

[abstract tulip]

maybe once i figure out how to not gray parse as boomkin i would try

i got the healing down just fine

[wary belfry]

You're not generally expected to multirole

[abstract tulip]

boomkin is still overwhelming for me theres so many buttons

[wary belfry]

The harder part is finding a tank slot gonna be real

[abstract tulip]

yeah most guilds have their tank spot secure and we dont wann run our own guild bc time

[wary belfry]

Guilds just dont recruit tanks

Usually they either already have one or an established dps goes tank if a spot opens up

[abstract tulip]

yeah. he could play aug but he normally jsut does m+

[radiant narwhal]

I barely play 1 healer spec and I managed a half OK 2 night guild

[proven phoenix]

why barely....

[abstract tulip]

maybe they mean they struggle

[radiant narwhal]

as in im bad at every healer

[proven phoenix]

be confident chimp

[abstract tulip]

didnt we teach you to push all the buttons and lifebloom and swiftmend yourself?

that will atleast get you a green parse

[proven phoenix]

I teach by being mean to him

[abstract tulip]

i like that

you know the top healers are 2 healing every fight.. thats why we cant parse well

monk & druid 2 healing

[radiant narwhal]

yeah I green

[torpid shore]

If guild is not willing to drop healers on farm dont expect to parse well

You will parse good on prog if co-healers legit thrash

[torpid wraith]

The only time you will keep a good parse is if you are either healing with less healers or healing last 2-3 bosses on mythic

[abstract tulip]

wonder if they will make ashes of alar mount easier to obtain

[bronze meadow]

it's so piss rn progging crown with like 54% overheal lol

[abstract tulip]

maybe just dps until you get to the hard part

[rustic copper]

Do not do that

[radiant narwhal]

idk why they do the 1% damage and heal buff every week

its useless

[rustic copper]

You are still on crown for a reason

Lock in

[radiant narwhal]

just fucks with prog

[abstract tulip]

shouldnt it make it easier?

[rustic copper]

I mean not as much as sporadic nerfs

you used to get nothing

And randomly they nuke the boss

And that is the absolute worst feeling in the game

[cunning parcel]

Jokes on you I gray parsed lura

[viral sentinel]

any smart people know, if i got a certain myth track item in vault, and i pick it, does it remove the item from the bonus roll pool?

or can i still get a duplicate of it if i roll

[grand herald]

no

[viral sentinel]

[spark cove]

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/kazzak/Astorian

I'm completly lost. I think the offhand is the best choice right? Or the ring.

[abstract tulip]

What does questionably epic say @spark cove

[spark cove]

Hmm. Does not compute 😄 Who or what is that 🙂

[radiant narwhal]

!qelive

https://questionablyepic.com/live/

[abstract tulip]

download simc add on put the output in the website

it doesnt have a queue timer like raidbots

and it will tell you your upgrades with upgradefinder

[spark cove]

Ok, yeah now I fainly remember there was some sim for healers 😄 Thanks will have a look

[abstract tulip]

yeah i like it

the upgrade finder will tell you the % increase it is so you can compare the m+ item vs raid item bc if you know you wont get to kill mythic cosmos you see the next best option in the m+ instead

[lyric surge]

you guys could try our weekend team.. they're working on chim and saladbar I think.. idk what you're looking for though

[abstract tulip]

Awe that’s so sweet of you. We would prefer weekday guild but thank you

[proven phoenix]

I think healing power just scales way too high

turbo gear, raid buff, boss nerfs all at the sametime

even the 1st and 2nd bosses are fun to heal early on a lot of the time when we're super undergeared and there's no raid buff

[dire hinge]

i only grey parse cuz everyone else pads

trust

[hearty coral]

I wasn't using raid buff till this week kekw

Didn't realize you had to turn in a quest to activate it lol

[clear hawk]

hi is there any macro that allows me to switch into bear form and cast frenzied regen instantly?

[cunning parcel]

I would just be picking the staff tbh

[thorn plover]

It's 2 presses no matter what

[clear hawk]

hahah yeah thanks... kinda figured it out 😄

[wise galleon]

Just got these pants that im probably going to catalyst, im completely stacked and dont think I can pug a drakes or anything else that can gauge me any upgrade. What other optimization can I do? Should I change boots for something else?

maybe craft cape and change boots?

nvm i can add to qelive crafted gear

[silver zenith]

is this an upgrade (if i reach the same level for it)? seems like its a tier piece...so i guess i will save manaflux upon taking it from the vault?

[storm kettle]

There is not shortage of catalyst this season (forgot the name of the item)
You should probably have 7-8 charges as default now, and you'll get it as a drop from raid bosses and m+ dungeons
You can take the chest just to unlock your 4 set if you want but chest is basically our worst tier piece

[hot lily]

Got unlucky with bonus rolls and had to roll through the entire NPX loot table to get the chest/staff/ring. what’s the best thing to send the rest of my rolls on if I’m not doing mythic raids?

[wise galleon]

Depends on what gear you lack

[fervent mica]

pug mythic chim chim and roll there

[wise galleon]

Probably either magister terrace for ring + other gear or windrunner spire for trinket + other gear

[plush sun]

yea.. if i only did them on hc or something not LFR lmao

[wise galleon]

lmao i finished gearing, i even took sockets from vault, next week another socket and im donzo

[autumn hull]

I ask this every season, can someone tell me the name of the offhand for crafted items

Where tf do you find offhands in the crafting menu

[plush sun]

Armor ▶️ Miscellaneous

[autumn hull]

Thank you o7

Why is it in armour though T - T pls

[fervent mica]

similar to shield

[hearty coral]

Cause it's not a weapon

It's an item held in your offhand

[wise galleon]

When is it worth to equip this and change other socket gems?

[marsh prism]

lol

not

[wise galleon]

We dont get 23 primarty stat per unique midnight gem color?

Or does that apply to mana only?

[marsh prism]

mana

[wise galleon]

i got bamboozled by @dense lantern

[marsh prism]

when did he say that

[wise galleon]

to me in private

[dense lantern]

no im stupid

[marsh prism]

hand me the green and no one gets hurt

[dense lantern]

got confused with the crit one

[dire hinge]

vinter also stole my kids

[marsh prism]

vinter stole my fucking wallet

[dense lantern]

[dire hinge]

and didnt return the 500 gold I lent for repairs

also left a rude comment on my steam page

[wise galleon]

i will thank vinter for having me taught being a healer and also druid first season ever ill never play healer again thanks

[dire hinge]

🙏

[wise galleon]

ngl has been quite an insigthful pov, i do agree every dps should play healer

even every tank

desynching pulls for thrash casts is important!

[marsh prism]

also not specific to wow

[marsh prism]

just for you ill post this here btw

[dense lantern]

confusedge

[marsh prism]

thats me right now

[dense lantern]

thats cool

[dire hinge]

you are the blanket

[dense lantern]

we have 34 degrees here

i would die

how are you doing nance

[dire hinge]

its a bit chilly today here

thank god

[marsh prism]

good but fuckin zonked

its cold and i wanna nap but i have a final presentation tomorrow

[radiant narwhal]

For work?

[marsh prism]

my masters

[wicked veldt]

who are your masters

[dense lantern]

i thought we didnt have that in 2026 anymore 🥀

[marsh prism]

arf

[radiant narwhal]

im also doing a masters!!!

[tough portal]

[spring fulcrum]

am i goated resil 17 almost

[marsh prism]

bark bark

[azure jungle]

For M+ healing only, is there like a mastery limit?

[thorn plover]

No but get some more haste, wow

Idk how you vickman watchers play this class with 31% haste. Feels terrible lol

[azure jungle]

is it that bad?

[inner sonnet]

you are hitting the diminishing return on mastery and loosing 30-40% value

per point(?) so yes

[grizzled seal]

No he is not

What the hell

[haughty ibex]

not at all dont listen they are baiting u

[grizzled seal]

30-40% value lost would require him to have double what he has right now

[inner sonnet]

Isnt it between 40-50%?

source: https://www.wowhead.com/guide/diminishing-returns-on-secondary-stats-in-world-of-warcraft

[grizzled seal]

Diminishing returns are not % based

They are rating based

[inner sonnet]

yeah

but per point he is loosing that value or am I misunderstanding that

[grizzled seal]

This is a stupid article

You are because the breakpoints are on rating values

He is not even close to reaching 40%

[inner sonnet]

why is it stupid?

[grizzled seal]

Just to give you an idea, I was not at 40% for haste in manaforge with max upgraded gear and haste in every slot

[grizzled seal]

I literally just told you why

[native quail]

Hello! Is there a specific WS build now for M+ I see so many variations of it now that I no longer know if I should be cat weaving or if it’s actually a LOSS in terms of getting mana back/ waste of a GCD

[grizzled seal]

Do you understand the difference between rating and percent

[inner sonnet]

I do

[grizzled seal]

So where is the confusion

From 0 to 30%, there's no penalty.
From 30% to 39%, there's a 10% penalty.

This line in the article implies you get haste DR once someone presses bloodlust

Do we realize how stupid that is

[inner sonnet]

Idk I am having trust issues rn

[grizzled seal]

This limit is not tied in any way to percents

Like fuck me man

I told you this probably 5 times in the last 5 mins?

[spark river]

If you re catweaving, you re playing liveliness which means you re not getting any mana back other than the amount that you get passively from just being in cat form and not casting healing spells

[inner sonnet]

yeah I heard you

lol

[native quail]

Is it even worth to do that now since wrath and surge etc got buffed?

[spark river]

Catweaving is more prio damage while caster focused build is more pad aoe. You can play whichever you prefer, our damage is kinda depressing.

[native quail]

Is it worth to play master shape in keys for mana? and if it is, is it based on preference whether I like to go cat to get mana or to pad aoe?

[spring fulcrum]

yes

the starfire build has infinite mana but a lot less heal

[haughty ibex]

what is the starfire build exactly

[spring fulcrum]

people would rather see u do 1k dps and heal more (more chance of saving their fk ups)

[haughty ibex]

thats not what they were asking

u press starfire even without doc

[spark river]

Caster more damage on overall and plays master shapeshifter. You would still go in cat form for hotw as its very strong st.

[spring fulcrum]

better to catweave at that point

[haughty ibex]

?

[spring fulcrum]

u get 2k mana per starfire

[haughty ibex]

if u want more prio u catweave if u want pad u go caster build

[spark river]

You shouldnt need mana overall in keys if you play properly

[spring fulcrum]

if u want more heal, and easier time. go cat

[haughty ibex]

u dont go cat for more managain

[spark river]

what

[haughty ibex]

?? how is it more heal man

[spark river]

are you talking about

[spring fulcrum]

ure talking about casting star fire out of coed

[haughty ibex]

i just told u they arent asking about doc

yes

[spark river]

i wish people could read

[native quail]

Thank you thank you!! I think I’ll stick to cat weaving, I like the prio dam

[spring fulcrum]

cat weaving does not dmg at all, none gonna care about the prio tbh

[haughty ibex]

@spring fulcrum ^

[spring fulcrum]

but u do a lot more healig

[spark river]

There is a build that plays a mix of cat spells and starfire that you could look into if you find it interesting

[haughty ibex]

but how do u do more healing going cat bro

please explain to me

[spring fulcrum]

ure not in cat form, u just heal more

wtf

[haughty ibex]

???

[spark river]

im losing brain cells

at a rapid pace

[spring fulcrum]

u think the starfire build heals more than the cat weaving build?

is that what ure saying?

[haughty ibex]

?????

NO??

HAHAHHA

are u baiting me

when did i ever sya that

casting or cat does little to no diff to ur hps

[spring fulcrum]

i just said starfire build = pad dmg (good overall), infinite mana but less heals

[hearty coral]

[haughty ibex]

u did not say that tho

[haughty ibex]

.

u were talking about dream of cenarius and i told u thats not what the person was asking

u press ur caster spells even without going troll talents

unless u talent cat stuff

[spring fulcrum]

what build ure talking about then

[haughty ibex]

the normal one?

[hearty coral]

The normal build

[spring fulcrum]

cus starfire build, without the trolll talents dream ecnarius, none does that i think they go cat talents

[haughty ibex]

um

[hearty coral]

Huh

[haughty ibex]

yes people do that?

[spark river]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-dog-hug-dog-question-mark-dog-question-mark-gif-14144426802562365039

[haughty ibex]

where did u see that no one does that

[spark river]

me this whole convo i swear

[spring fulcrum]

idk everyone playing monk now but before dorki build, everyone was cat weaving, for a reason

[dense lantern]

dorki build

[hearty coral]

Yeah because that was before all of the caster damage changes

[dense lantern]

anyways that was before the caster changes

then they did caster changes

and everyone switched to caster

then the doc build came out

so someone played that for a while

[spring fulcrum]

they still kept the same build after, cus the dorky build heals for shit in pugs high keys

[dense lantern]

then everyone went back to caster

[haughty ibex]

yeah, and then caster spells got buffed. 'dorki' build is troll and even more troll after hotfixes

[native quail]

Hence my question of which one is better lol

[haughty ibex]

ui got ur ideas confused man

[hearty coral]

I feel like you might be lost

[dense lantern]

i havent seen your question and I wasnt answering your question

[haughty ibex]

and if someone is asking a question u shouldnt cvonfse them

[dense lantern]

if the question is cat vs caster

then

[spring fulcrum]

whats the build now then

[dense lantern]

caster is more dps

[haughty ibex]

bro

[sinful summit]

Cat buffs when

[hearty coral]

The wowhead even has the caster build with the normal healing talents

[dense lantern]

but it doesnt matter

[haughty ibex]

either cat or caster, cat more prio caster mroe overall

thats the build

[spark river]

I literally explained

[haughty ibex]

casting does NOT mean 'dorki build'

[native quail]

I see you friend

[inner sonnet]

everyone is reactively typing lol

[dense lantern]

bro im not reactive

im proactive

[inner sonnet]

its like 90 lines a second over here

[scarlet goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/bangchan-bang-chan-wolf-nomemorto-jeongincel-gif-2091538424814686677

[spring fulcrum]

had no idea theres a caster build without cenarius tbh

[haughty ibex]

thats whats on wowhead

as standard

[dense lantern]

the cenarius build was played for like

a week

[haughty ibex]

a week too much

[dense lantern]

i disagree it was fun

[haughty ibex]

how is it fun to press the same spell 10x in a row...

[dense lantern]

idk ask monks

[haughty ibex]

HAHAH

u got a point actually

[dense lantern]

but anyways it was fun because it wasnt meant to be competitive at high keys

but it offered some mindless fun and dps opportunities in lower keys

[haughty ibex]

ye for sure but like

can still be done now

[dense lantern]

sure its just way less dps

so way less fun

[haughty ibex]

why is way less dps tho?

[spark river]

blooming infusion fixed

[dense lantern]

they fixed the

[haughty ibex]

oh true ye

[dense lantern]

ye

[haughty ibex]

i forgor it affected dps

[spring fulcrum]

ik its not the dorki build but it was fun af

actually doig some dam

[thorn plover]

It would solve so many of the world's problems. Seriously

[hearty coral]

I still use it in like 10-14s

It's nice to feel like a monk on big pulls and watch people's health bars stay 100% for 15 seconds no matter how much crap damage they take

[spring fulcrum]

i been usindg it in 17--18

but

[thorn plover]

Just caught up on 30 mins of messages and lost atleast 13 IQ points man

[spring fulcrum]

gotta heal like a pussy and only starfire during ecnario

[hearty coral]

100 to go

[thorn plover]

🥴

[hearty coral]

(I implied you had above average IQ :D)

(I explained it for you since you now have average IQ)

[thorn plover]

I do not

Room temp at best

[thorn plover]

My average reaction after reading back too

[hearty coral]

Also I just want to point out I read the diminishing returns article

[spark river]

Are we talking Celsius or ?

[hearty coral]

Unironically people would understand the DR stuff better if stat weights still were used lmao

[spring fulcrum]

so this the build people using?

how much dps does that do?

[hearty coral]

Like

[tough portal]

The form of damage isn't connected necessarily to losing healing talents for DOC.

Magic damage just got 50% buffs

At some point

[spring fulcrum]

yeah i remember thats when i switched rdruid thinking cat weaving will be gone, dont rly like it

[hearty coral]

Idk probably 60k if you are face good and 30-40k for everyone else

[tough portal]

I dont think so, it isnt particularly complicated and that's the first time I saw someone completely misunderstand it, at least so clearly

[inner sonnet]

lol

[tough portal]

Stat weights could maybe help illustrate how much better haste and mastery are

[hearty coral]

I used "stat weights" to explain why we keep going for haste and mastery even in DR

[tough portal]

But this was the first I saw of someone saying people are losing 40% value on a stat

[hearty coral]

It made it very easy

[inner sonnet]

So to summarize, there is some percentage I am misunderstanding and that's what the DR is applied to? Because it said 55.5~% but it isn't the percentage we are talking about

[spring fulcrum]

the fk thats what people deal with cenarius

[spark river]

The 55% you saw from qe is including procs

The person is not sitting at 55% mastery

[inner sonnet]

Yeah

Let's be generous and call it 40%

[spark river]

You re not even at the first dr with 40

[thorn plover]

I drop Sunfire and boomie form and take cat talents instead, but it largely doesn't matter because our DPS is shit

[azure jungle]

36% 😄

[inner sonnet]

then what is the tabler in the article referring to then? what am I not seeing

[thorn plover]

The mastery number wasn't concerning, the haste number was

[tough portal]

#resto message
Like torty said, the diminishing returns are based on rating values, not the % you have on your character sheet. This is an important distinction for a bunch of effects that give you % gains but not via stat rating (bloodlust, lycara's, mark of the wild). The wowhead page you linked explains this very clearly and you just had to read it instead of glancing over t he bolded numbers.

The % are given to facilitate reading but it is a bit of a disservice

[spring fulcrum]

thats how i feel with the non cenarius build, they do no dam. Sadly

[spark river]

reading comprehension claims another victim

[inner sonnet]

be less social would you

[inner sonnet]

thanks

[spark river]

Anti social social club

[inner sonnet]

that would clear it up

[thorn plover]

Yeah I'm not talking about the meme build

[hearty coral]

Hover your haste rating and it'll tell you what it natty gives

[tough portal]

There is a link to click through for this and you can find this table

[spring fulcrum]

the meme build is the greatest druid buiuld ever done (i rerolled this season)

this is what i heal with meme build tho

[grizzled seal]

To start getting 40% DR on mastery you need something around 2.7k mastery rating

I'm not even sure you have 2.7k secondaries in total rn

[tough portal]

This doesnt mean much for your healing performance, mostly it just means that your groups are taking less damage than average

[spring fulcrum]

green one is cus i had to heal 24/7 only use dam during cenarius

[inner sonnet]

I guess I assumed there were normalization around secondaries then, my fault

[wise galleon]

how is having low healing on m+ a flex

[spark river]

I believe he was talking about 40% mastery, not 40% mastery dr

[inner sonnet]

but a good learning opportunity

thanks face

[tough portal]

A bit antagonistic mate, chill

[spring fulcrum]

not a flex thats just the meme build lol

[fervent path]

Tbf if you time a key with no deaths due to healing the parse number is out of your hands

[wise galleon]

it was not antagonistic 🙁

[spring fulcrum]

if it was parsed agauinst other meme builds then it would't be that ad

[wise galleon]

sorry

[grizzled seal]

It also depends on what you are playing with I imagine

[tough portal]

All g I just wanted to antagonize you

[grizzled seal]

Some specs do a lot of group healing

Or self healing

[tough portal]

Yeah, or just bigger DR %

[wise galleon]

ye some classes dont take damage at all or have very high leech

[tough portal]

Rogue pressing Feint 3x a minute vs a Mage

[wise galleon]

thats why everyone like dk + dh

[thorn plover]

M+ parse numbers

I cant

[fervent path]

Yeah ran a key with an Spriest, DK, Devourer and got like a 6 parse lmao

[grizzled seal]

I imagine guardian druid vs brm would be a bigger factor

[dense lantern]

antagonize this

[fervent path]

Id say good tank vs not so good tank is a big factor

Like the player itself

[quiet wyvern]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/965181691981357056/986899439698448394/cat_in_pot_verysad.gif

[grizzled seal]

You can't be a bad bear

Either you are online or offline

[thorn plover]

Accurate

[dense lantern]

I will now play this

[tough portal]

Holy hdr

[fervent path]

I once ran a MT with a bear that pulled two tank buster minis with no CDs avail

[hearty coral]

Yep that's what it looks like when I take screenshots too

[quiet wyvern]

classic

[tough portal]

Such a zinger

[dense lantern]

you just dont get it

[quiet wyvern]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1055535291592626279/1253038881427947581/ezgif-4-5a97323732.gif

[dense lantern]

this build requires a big iq

unforch

[hearty coral]

I did a reforest key today

For the meme

I change random talents during my 10-12s that I do for crests

Just to feel alive

[spring fulcrum]

does the caster build still have mana problems? like cat weeeaving?

[smoky sail]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-ginger-cat-side-eye-cat-side-eye-chunky-gif-7882593414338052899

[fervent path]

Aight what do yall think of what im running for keys, im thinking of switching MS off for liveliness cause im still needing to sit to drink in 18+ so its starting to feel pointless to run MS

[thorn plover]

You shouldn't be having mana problems with any build we have right now

[spring fulcrum]

most druid 've seen take drinks like every pull, unless meme build tbh

[haughty ibex]

why do u even drink especially with MS

[fervent path]

Ppl eat shit in 18s have to constantly heal idk

[spring fulcrum]

or like every tank asks me "druid tell me when u need mana" and i never do cus meme build

[haughty ibex]

i mean i think u might be doing smth wrong

like clipping ur rejuvs perma or idk

[spring fulcrum]

kk

[fervent path]

Fwiw i drink like

Once or twice a key

And not every key

[haughty ibex]

u were the one saying u want to switch off ms cuz u drink so

[fervent path]

Yeah cuz if I already drink once or twice with ms on

[thorn plover]

In 19s I maybe drink once in a key. Usually never

[fervent path]

Then why even bother having it idk

[haughty ibex]

yeah after some bosses i drink 2

[thorn plover]

MS is more damage

[haughty ibex]

are u talking about sitting for 10 seconds to drink

[fervent path]

Isnt liveliness more damage in catweaving ?

[fervent path]

Naaah

Like 3

[thorn plover]

If you're cat weaving sure

[spark river]

I dont drink at all because i rerolled monk

work smarter not harder

[spring fulcrum]

yea im only healing 17 starting 18 now with meme build, but i feel like i need to switch to real healing

[fervent path]

I drink during like a boss RP or smth and thats enough

[haughty ibex]

then how is MS affecting it

drinking in downtime is chill

[thorn plover]

How much mana in a key are you getting back from MS

[fervent path]

Mhmmm yeah ig

[fervent path]

Lemme check a log but

Ive healed like 2nd boss of MT without losing mana

Like pulling at 100k mana after 2glaive guys

And ending fight at 100k

[haughty ibex]

there is rp there b4 and after anyhways

unless glaive goes off right b4 boss

[fervent path]

Tank keeps us in combat for first rp

But yeah 2nd rp is easy full mana

[thorn plover]

There are almost no bosses where you can't MS mana back

I go into bosses low lots

[spring fulcrum]

i had issue s on sky 2nd boss

until someone did the bug thing

does no dmg

to one or two lazers

[fervent path]

This was an +18MT

[spring fulcrum]

caster build?

[fervent path]

Yeah ig I didnt check a log to see how much mana i was getting from MS

[fervent path]

Cat

Caster feels cringe to me

[spark river]

and you are still drinking?

how is that even possible

[fervent path]

There I drinked I think during RP after 2nd boss

And went from about 100k mana to full

So that would be the +120k mana

In log

Ig

[thorn plover]

That's about the same as I'm gaining in my 18 mt

[fervent path]

Yeah ig im sticking to MS

[thorn plover]

My mana never dropped below 50%

[spring fulcrum]

i just cringe at doing no dam tbh

[haughty ibex]

i jst dont see the upside of liveliness over ms unless u really need the healing

[spring fulcrum]

even god cat weaver most i saw was like 20-30k

most hit double digits with luck

[fervent path]

Yeah im not a good cat weaver I just use cat to get mana mostly idc about dam atm

Maybe once I get to 20s ill need to care

[thorn plover]

Unlikely

[spring fulcrum]

yea then u have monk spinning doing 60k and nothing else

[thorn plover]

I haven't had a key yet that came down to my damage

[fervent path]

I once wasnt invited to a +17 AA cause "rdruid deals no dam"

[spring fulcrum]

facts

unless u play meme build beat tank 1st pull

[fervent path]

If someone doesnt invite a healer cause they deal no dmg on a 17 you know its gonna brick

[spring fulcrum]

i 1v1 my buddy tank war in the 1st birds after the elemental and i won

[fervent path]

Idk, I never found the appeal to healing before, and now that Im healing and im really liking it, I now dont find the appeal to heal dpsing lol

[fervent path]

The Dorki Nation attacked

[spring fulcrum]

dorki needs to ruin monk

[thorn plover]

You can beat the tank without meme build unless they're a bear maybe

[spring fulcrum]

caster monk or sth

[fervent path]

Hes trying

[thorn plover]

Dorki made a monk video

[fervent path]

At least to get it nerfed

[thorn plover]

He literally said "I have no idea what I'm doing and I'm healing 21s"

"if there's 2 or more mobs I spin, on bosses I push some combination of buttons and rotate CDs. I didn't even read the spells"

[fervent path]

Yeah I wasnt giving merit to the "MW is a braindead spec" discourse but

Watching some streams and shit

Its like damn they do be spinning

All these streamers doing like "I just hit lvl 90 and geared this alt now getting resil 22"

[unique grail]

Is anyone able to help review logs and give me a few tips on how to improve my raid healing?

[radiant narwhal]

@marsh prism hit a 10mil hps tranq

I was seeing god

in p4

[spark river]

yes

[sudden rover]

XDDDDD

mw is fucking stupid yeah

[spark river]

But thats the truth yeah

My monk is now 285 and its so mind numbing

[unique grail]

Thank you!
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/qbHxhdC7mtZ29rN4?type=healing&boss=-2&difficulty=0&wipes=2

[fervent mica]

theres a lot, enjoy this incoming wall

[unique grail]

I'm so ready to feel bad about myself. Gotta get better though

[thorn plover]

Have you read the common mistakes pin?

Start there

[spark river]

You need to always have a lifebloom and 2 rejuvs on yourself and extend with swiftmend every single time on cd. 17/27 swiftmends went onto someone else and thats bad.

You need to renew your lifebloom in pandemic. 8/20 times lifebloom has been renewed outside of pandemic or it has fallen off.

You need to regrowth more. Your cpm on the dragons kill is only 13. Its a fight where you can get 18-20.

Your overall cpm is also low at 49 for mythic and you should be combat potting twice instead of mana potting. Lower your wild growth cpm a bit so you can use reck pots.

Your tranqs need to be bigger than 10 hots. Think about 15+. Tranq extends our regrowth window by a lot.

[thorn plover]

And I'm sure sola will have some good stuff coming in a wall of text

[spark river]

Nah thats pretty much it

[unique grail]

Thank you!

Didn't expect to have lifebloom abd rejuvs on myself

[thorn plover]

You want as many hots on yourself as you can at all times

[unique grail]

Gotta figure out why im refreshing lifebloom incorrectly. Ive got an addon for it that I thought was working well

[thorn plover]

You get regrowth naturally, and wg is random and out of your control

[unique grail]

Is there a talent reason for this?

[spark river]

From 5:20 in the fight to 6:40 you were out of mana even with mana potting twice

Chill on the wild growth

No one has 5.6 cpm here lol

[unique grail]

Oh I thought we basically send that on cooldown to keep trees up

[thorn plover]

Yes we have talents that buff our self healing a lot, and that increases your lifebloom blooms, and that increases your apex healing

[unique grail]

Ohhh got it

Didn't realize we should focus on ourselves so much. I usually ignore myself since I passively tend to heal myself

That makes more sense though

So just swiftmend myself on cooldown. Don't wild growth until needed then?

[fervent mica]

wg before cds and then mana permitting

[unique grail]

Is there an abundance stacks number to aim for? Bouncing between rejuv and regrowth is definitely the trickier part to manage especially during mechanics

[spark river]

Ramp to 12 (or more for tranq ramps for example) and then regrowth to 6 and cycle

10 on average over a fight is good

[fervent mica]

and you basically always want to use rej with your sotf procs from sm

[unique grail]

Is there an easy way to track regrowths or are you just kinda throwing 6ish out then going back to rejuv?

[spark river]

Get hottracker its going to help you to know when your rejuvs are falling off

[unique grail]

Oh nice. That looks super useful. I was just using cooldown manager and default frames before

[thorn plover]

You want to wild growth as much as your mana allows you to

Short fights you can basically send on cd, longer fights you have to dial it back.
You want to end the fight with 0 mana in an ideal situation.
Kinda watch boss HP and your mana pool, you can use that to gauge if you should cast wg more or less

[unique grail]

What is the general metric for this? Like if youre at 60% mana do you wild growth? Or are you looking at something else?

[thorn plover]

And remember regrowth is cheap af if you manage your abundance correctly. You want to cast as much regrowth as possible.

[spark river]

Compare your mana to boss hp and lower your cpm if you think that you re running lower than you should be

[thorn plover]

Answered above

[unique grail]

OK, that makes sense

[sly pivot]

anyone have a nsrt personal reminder timeline for healer CDs on myth dragons?

[spark river]

Depends on assignments

You can check lorrgs

[thorn plover]

Dm'd you mine

[sly pivot]

❤️

[thorn plover]

Assuming your RL isn't assigning these

[unique grail]

Thanks for all the help! Super useful information. Time to go practice

[thorn plover]

Heroic Chim pugs can be a great place to practice

[spark river]

Crown is good for practice

[thorn plover]

That too, just harder to find than chim

[spark river]

Belo ren zerg is fun also as its chaotic

[sly pivot]

I started trialling for a 3/9M guild having never healed mythic before and we killed saladbar so I'm just vibing no assignments lol

[thorn plover]

Something long enough you can test your mana management is key

[thorn plover]

This will work then

Adjust as needed if something doesn't line up

[sly pivot]

Actually never done any mythic bosses on any role lol

ty ty

[fervent path]

yeah went to M Pallys yday and that shit clocked me that fight is so long

we didnt kill cause half the team got internet issues (i think it was on blizz end) but yeah it was fun

I mismanaged my mana but iirc we had like 2 healer dead from minute 5

[fervent path]

is there a way to check average Abundance over a fight?

[spark river]

Wowanalyzer

[fervent path]

oh it works for rdruid?

ig this doesnt look too bad, startted dripping low on abundance due to mana at the end

[grizzled seal]

It is very good for druid

[spark river]

Yes it was updated for midnight by squid

He did a very good job

[fervent path]

god bless squid

[grizzled seal]

There are a shit ton of modules there

[grizzled seal]

This is not very representative

Abundance stacks only matter when you cast regrowths

If you sit at 12 for 50 seconds and cast 5 regrowths in that time frame then all of them went to waste

[fervent path]

could I like yuxtapose regrowth casts graph right? im a neophyte when it comes to logs

[marsh prism]

yuxtapose

[grizzled seal]

This is in Swedish, Nance

[fervent path]

yeah my rg CPM still needs work ye it was like 18.5

[marsh prism]

it made me chuckle it sounds cute

[grizzled seal]

18.5 is pretty good

[fervent path]

ye but ik I need to hit 20+

it used to be like 13 couple of weeks back so im getting there

[grizzled seal]

I had a raid leader in wrath who had the thickest Swedish accent. He'd say things like "yustice" and "yump"

[marsh prism]

omfg

[spark river]

yail is a good one

[grizzled seal]

"do not yump with defile"

[fervent path]

healing M fights for the first time in a reclear group i think is not the best enviroment for practice lmao

i was like oh shit mechanics

[spark river]

You also wont be able to have 20 cpm on every fight

Thats also something to take into consideration

[fervent path]

yeah but I think pallys is a good cpm fight right?

[grizzled seal]

Yeah it is

[fervent path]

i suuuucked on vaelgor

[spark river]

Yeah regrowth slaps on pallys

[grizzled seal]

That's a hard fight for druid

[fervent path]

the 1 try previous to kill I was at like

175k hps

and we wiped at 3%

T T

[spark river]

I parsed 97 but the other 3 healers were grey parsing lol

[spark river]

Its an awkward fight definitely

[fervent path]

yeah we had 2 grey parsers that try

it was a 1.7% wipe

[spark river]

Bdk 4th

Where is the last healer

[fervent path]

ded

they died at 2nd intermish

[grizzled seal]

Are you 3 healing or what

[fervent path]

didnt want to throw them under the bus LOL

still 14 parse its crazy

[spark river]

Senn > Romastrasz

[fervent path]

is press like the hardest healer ever or what

[grizzled seal]

Right ok 2 dead healers

[grizzled seal]

No such thing exists in midnight

Actually druid is probably the hardest by far

[spark river]

I believe pres is easier than druid right now

[fervent path]

i knew druid was hard thats kinda why I decided to main it

but yeah always hear press is hard as balls as well

[spark river]

But yeah you wont be able to parse unless your healers are dead or really bad

[grizzled seal]

It was harder before this expac

[fervent path]

like DF Pres right?

[grizzled seal]

No idea about DF pres

[spark river]

Not really

DF pres was temporal anomaly spam

[grizzled seal]

I know like 5 evoker spell names, I probably shouldn't talk about them

[hasty blade]

It is finally dead:
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/p3twTLHCdxraWyDq?fight=last&type=healing

Other than dying to a p1 blade on our kill pull, any pointers? I wasnt super happy with the numbers

[spark river]

Tww with consume flame was hard to get good

My knowledge is also superficial about pres but i did play it a bit when it released

[tulip flax]

Hi , any one has Troll Berserk + Tranq macro which does not cancel Channel

Or No cancel channel macro

[spark river]

Numbers would be better if you dont mana pot twice

347k are low intermission numbers for resto druid

You should reck pot there to carry the healing

[fervent path]

RG cpm sketchy no?

idk the numbers for Lura

[spark river]

Lura is lower on regrowth cpm in general

It should be a bit higher, but its a weird fight for regrowth

[fervent path]

oh yeah im checking logs

what makes it so low? too much movement ?

[spark river]

8 lb renewed out of pandemic is kinda bad, thats a fundamental mistake

Yeah a lot of movement so you cant plant and regrowth

[rustic copper]

._.

[spark river]

Alright

Normal players

Not named niko

[rustic copper]

Unless you are playing a seed, what movement

[grizzled seal]

Niko still didn't link his first kill

[spark river]

Yeah mr private logs we need some evidence

[rustic copper]

I think I did at some point

I press regrowth

[spark river]

That second tranq having 3/7 ticks kinda hurts me ngl

[fervent path]

Every RG statement will need an asterisk attached (doesn't include Niko)

[rustic copper]

Ok but what if other rdruids played well

Can we figure out how to press regrowth on Lura

It’s not that complicated

[spark river]

Just get spatial

[rustic copper]

There’s 5 glaives

[spark river]

Problem solved

[rustic copper]

I don’t get spatial

[spark river]

Where do you use 2 min convoke on belo ren?

Im doing the bird tonight

[fervent path]

Fuck i need to make two notes for Beloren tonight

With or without 2min voke

I think we will need the 2min

2min convoke + Tranqing on end of P2.1 gonna press cds 4 times the whole fight kek

[sly pivot]

You guys are showing off this is me

[unique grail]

Is it better to macro recklessness with convoke or tranq or do you use it as its own cooldown during specific damage phases?

[sly pivot]

Got a rsham parsing 90s and a disc priest parsing single digits

I’m just happy to be there

[rustic copper]

Prepull p2 p2

[spark river]

Thanks
The only log using 2 min convoke in top 50 is torty lol

[whole garnet]

Okay Im struggling to get my CPM for regrowth up in general. Just looking for some quick tips. What's the threshold on abundance for slamming regrowth? And are we sending only regrowths with SotF?

[fervent mica]

Almost always rej with sotf

[spark river]

Sotf should go almost exclusively on rejuv to maintain abundance. You ramp up to 12 abundance (or more rejuvs depending on damage) and spam regrowths until you fall down to 6 and then cycle.

[whole garnet]

Okay so letting it drop to 6

Think Im refreshing too much then, was trying not to let it go below 9

[spark river]

That is way too much yes

[whole garnet]

Good to know for sotf too

[fervent mica]

You are still using sm on CD during your regrowth spam, and hitting rej there so it will extend some

[spark river]

If you also do a tranq ramp properly, you will have a very long regrowth window

[grizzled seal]

and it's all mistimed

because we dont even push at 2 mins anymore

[whole garnet]

Yeah our MW does our healing CDs and he plans them really well

May also be a stupid question, but is there a prio for SM target or always just the LB person

[spark river]

Your mw planning cds has nothing with what I ve said

[spark river]

You are the lb person

Always yoursel with 2 rejuvs

[fierce isle]

You should be life blooming yourself and SM yourself

[whole garnet]

Yeah okay making sure i was right there

Thanks all 🙂

❤️

[spark river]

You re welcome 😄

[spark river]

Do you think that embrace is better on a 5 minute fight like belo ren or liveliness still beats it?

[fervent path]

Im running embrace cause of the extra healing during intermission idk

[rustic copper]

Convoke at -10s

[fervent path]

this was with 1min convoke during egg last week

i wasnt running Lights Potential last week

[grizzled seal]

Why would you run lights potential

[fervent path]

cause we Lust on P2.1 no?

[spark river]

Reck pot like every normal resto druid

[fervent path]

aye sir

[grizzled seal]

unless you go over 100% hate it's all useful still

[fervent path]

I think ill Reck + Convoke at ~15-20s into P2 so I still have reck up for the Tranq ill cast at the end of it

[rustic copper]

20% 60k hps

Yep that’s a lights potential wg spam egg phase

Spam regrowth

Maximize nb

Use reck

[fervent path]

I healed 350k that phase isnt that normal? But yeah my RG suuucked

Idr if i had bad RNG with pizzas

But im sure i woulda sucked anyways

I think stand too far back from egg at the start and then slowly move in so first few switches are bad for me

[fervent mica]

You don't have a gate in?

[rustic copper]

That’s very low I think

[mystic crater]

Definitely should have a gate in, feelsbadman

[fervent path]

We do gate in but idk maybe gate ends a little farther from center

[fervent path]

I checked some top logs and i saw it range from 280 to 450 there

im doing a lot of shit wrong there anyways so

it can be a lot higher for sure

[thorn plover]

I ran 2m convoke on beloren, it's the way

1 min was awkward

[fierce isle]

And you convoke pre pull? We start real prog on bird this Sunday.

[thorn plover]

I convoke on pull

Like 1 or 2 seconds in

[fierce isle]

We killed crown in 59 pulls was pretty cool 😉

[fierce isle]

Sweet

[thorn plover]

Bird and crown was same # of pulls for us

Shits easy now

[fierce isle]

Nice

[whole horizon]

being under count on paladins was a surprise for my guild

[fervent path]

this was on another pull I think i just picked one with very bad rng on pizzas

[thorn plover]

Is this an egg phase?

[fervent path]

I was doing a lil bit pre pull but IG you dont want to convoke at start of P2 anyways so you can just convoke on pull

[fervent path]

ye

[fierce isle]

A big benefit of raiding 3 hrs a week is we get lots of buff help from the stacking buff for prog.

[fervent path]

how are you on Beloren already raiding 3hs a week

thats crazy

is it like an Alt guild

or smth

[fierce isle]

Nope

All mains

Virgin progress

We scraped by with our crown kill last 20 min of raid last Sunday

An obelisk person insta died and killed 14 people last 4%

And we managed to finish her

[glossy brook]

Pog

[fierce isle]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/zcmVJxyt4Rg9MAjn?fight=18&type=healing

[glossy brook]

Do you guys extend lockout basically perma and gear thru m+ or

Surely

[fierce isle]

We killed dragons twice and then extended

Being able to farm M chim for gaze rerolls was huge

[glossy brook]

Yeah

[fierce isle]

Because usually we get locked out of early boss loot early in the season

But not having the old form of dinar loot sucks for stuff like crown loot because we won’t get a second kill.

[spark river]

How many pulls was it? Im on bird tonight

[glossy brook]

🥀

[fierce isle]

Aye

[fervent path]

yall are gamers

mines at beloren raiding 8h30 a week

[glossy brook]

[rustic copper]

I cast twice as much rg as rj in egg phase

And I do 500k

[whole horizon]

is there some arbitrary cutoff for your account where you stop getting WQs that reward gear?

[fierce isle]

No

It’s just rng

[whole horizon]

that's spectacularly shit then

all 15 WQs i have active are voidlight marl or gold

[fierce isle]

There is a max ilvl from wq of course

But yeah you’ll see more gear next cycle

[whole horizon]

my alt needs gear today though

[fierce isle]

Don’t worry. MW can heal 20s at 230 ilvl ez

[whole horizon]

my mw was 289 before my druid actually

i'm leveling my prot warrior

[rustic copper]

Why are we doing wq for gear

._.

[whole horizon]

because every single piece is 250 except for this 180 ilvl ring i havent been able to replace for the last 4 days

[rustic copper]

Can’t you just buy the champ m+ caches

[rustic copper]

Craft a ring ?

[whole horizon]

no crests

[rustic copper]

You don’t need crests

[fervent path]

Got it

[fierce isle]

I imagine getting lucky with good slice colors impacts how much you can turret

[uncut iris]

Has anyone tried talenting into Harmonious blooming for paladin absorbs? Would it be worth it... is there anything you COULD even replace ?

[rustic copper]

It’s bad, it’s a 10% healing increase on your Lifebloom target because mastery stacks have heavy diminishing returns

[spark river]

No its not worth it, but curious which point you would replace for it

[rustic copper]

You’d give up a point in thriving veg

[thorn plover]

65

[uncut iris]

Yes ! that's what i was curious about ...

[rustic copper]

You should be lifeblooming yourself and eating the absorbs

You have so much self healing with that setup that you focus on healing other absorbs anyways

[uncut iris]

Yeah, I'm assuming the strat is have all other healers targeted with regrowth, spam the shit out of yourself for the cleave and then swap once yours is gone ?

[rustic copper]

No you have lifebloom, max hots, photo, self healing modifiers etc.

I do not regrowth myself

The absorb clears by itself

[thorn plover]

You don't even get a regrowth on yourself before it's gone

[uncut iris]

so do you take bond with nature or the harmonious regrowth ?

*constitution

[thorn plover]

The 4% one

The absorbs are like a non issue in that fight now, as long as the right people are getting them.

[prime ridge]

Was there any change/buff to Emerald Coach's Whistle? I was told something but can't find any information about it. Don't know if I should take it from vault or go with bonus roll

[spark river]

bonus roll

[thorn plover]

Nerfed long time ago, nothing since

[fierce isle]

Yeah if you know which 5 people are supposed to be getting absorbs you can pre rejuv them and then cycle regrowths through the 5 for crazy absorb healing

[thorn plover]

We just put all 5 in the same group and it's very easy

SM NS regrowth is big there too

[raw cobalt]

is possible to display the seeds in dander frames?

from Lura

[vivid peak]

its is with pinned frames in settings

[raw cobalt]

so this? now where do i see those frames?

ok found it

[thorn plover]

Gah I better start looking up stuff for Lura tonight

[unique grail]

Do you approach M+ healing the same as raid? Lifeblooming, rejuving, and swift mending yourself consistently?

[hasty blade]

Sorry just saw this and yeah it does. Someone moved their lines on top of me and I had to adjust 🙁

[thorn plover]

Most people don't. Usually move LB to someone squishy or someone taking big dot or something

I do it almost exactly the same as raid and it works for me

You dont need to maintain a set number of rejuvs in m+, you just do it before damage comes.
Over rejuv = oom

[unique grail]

So youre careful with wildgrowth in M+ too? You just LB and SM on cooldown?

[thorn plover]

I send WG pretty much on cd in m+

Mana really isn't an issue there, especially with MS

[glossy onyx]

Just send it on M+ until you feel comfortable, if you brick someone's key type "DPS need more interrupts..."

[obtuse fox]

Hey guys, sorry to infiltrate the grove but looking to help one of my raiders (rdruid) improve a bit. Any chance someone can look over these logs of crown prog last night?
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/a:2FtXyj3nYJAWrv8T

[raw cobalt]

how are u fellow druids healing the dawn crystals? any tips? do u double rejuv em all? or you mainy go regrowth and thats all

on lura mythic

[grand herald]

they are making all of the basic mistakes

they are just spamming Rejuv instead of cycling between RJ and RG

they are not casting SM on cd

[sudden rover]

btw am I tripping or gaze got nerfed? I'm looking at my logs and it's about 30% uptime on some fights, it's complete trash?? Didn't it used to be more than 50%?

[grand herald]

they are letting Lifebloom drop

[bright swift]

lifebloom 1, regrowth the other 2, spam regrowth on the lifebloom one, sotf regrowh NS on the lifebloom one

[grand herald]

(50% uptime)

they are casting dps spells

they are using mana potions instead of recklessness pots

[raw cobalt]

ty

[thorn plover]

Check the common mistakes pin, they are doing most of those things and then some

Good place to start though

[obtuse fox]

Ah ok, some of that is easily fixed it seems. @grand herald Thank you, I appreciate you taking a look. @thorn plover I'll give that a look, thank you.

[grand herald]

also i didnt check specifically for this, but they should have lifebloom and 2 rejuvs on themselves at all times, and extend those on cd with swiftmend, spending the following proc on rejuvs

[obtuse fox]

I did wonder if you could just make a macro for SM for self casting if they're having trouble with it. But probably not ideal play

[grand herald]

You can do it for LB 100%, and its mostly not wrong to SM yourself every single time

But yeah letting someone die to SM self aint a good look

[rustic copper]

It’s wrong to not sm yourself every single time for most bosses

[grand herald]

Yeah the only time its bad is if you coulda saved a life with the SM

[rustic copper]

Swiftmending low hp people when things go bad is how you get behind on healing

Not my problem

I provide a pretty strong amount of triage healing with regrowth

There are 3 other healers

[obtuse fox]

That's awesome to hear because I can just make a macro and be like "hit this every time" and it'll improve the quality of play overalll

[obtuse fox]

our other healers are overall better which is what we're currently leaning on

[rustic copper]

Not for long

[obtuse fox]

[grand herald]

Yeah just make sure they are tracking the CD in a way thats obvious to them

Icon on cursor, a sound effect theyll pay attention to, a huge icon somewhere

However works best for them

[weary trail]

AddOn I have says Eye of Midnight Champion 263 is 96% better than my Bifurcation band 276. That cant be right, right? I see Eye of Midnight has low usage but I assumed it was due to rarity

Addon is Codex

[rustic copper]

Idk what that addon is but uninstall it

Those rings are close in value

[weary trail]

https://tenor.com/view/south-park-its-gone-gif-4104229

[rustic copper]

You can use qelive for gearing healers

[weary trail]

ty il check it out now

I only see QELive Trinket Tooltips

[glossy onyx]

Next time you get rejected for no CE just remember this guy has a guild but no LB/SM

[weary trail]

how he got no LB it's the first talent in the resto tree

Nvm i'll ask him personally and agressively.

[glossy onyx]

I'm still trying to figure out how they got to Crown Myth with him

[weary trail]

Check.. The services channel..

Should tell you all you wana know

[rustic copper]

Crown myth is easy

[weary trail]

Easy enough to assume someone not using LB and SM got legitimately?

Cmon :)))))

[rustic copper]

Yeah

[weary trail]

https://tenor.com/view/shane-gillis-tires-comedy-netflixisajoke-eyebrows-gif-13462244105747520957

[unique grail]

I've often heard resto druids say you have to rejuv ramp before damage. What is the rotation if you're not constantly ramping rejuv then spamming regrowth? Do they dps wrath to get mana back?

[hearty coral]

Wrath to get mana back means you misplayed

[unique grail]

Yea, that's what I thought

Just not sure how to time the ramp to 12 rejuvs then spam regrowth until 6 rejuvs then repeat process

[rustic copper]

You’re always either ramping up or pressing regrowth

24/7

[unique grail]

Ok, makes sense

[stable verge]

I'll get a 100 parse one way or another you can't stop me

I'll play DoC in raid if I have to

[rustic copper]

Doc 100 parse

Keep all the dragons adds alive to the side and spam starfire, dps aren’t allowed to hit

[hearty coral]

Lmao

[pine torrent]

guys , a question here. Sometimes Soul of the Forest consumption doesn't put 3 rejus. It is usual? Or I'm missing something... 🙁

[raw cobalt]

u got range>

[pine torrent]

yep, but instead empowered reju it triggers just a normal after Swiftmend

[thorn plover]

Are you pressing sm right after regrowth

[grand herald]

you are probably spending it on a spellqueued RG

[pine torrent]

mmmmm lol

[grand herald]

is that a "i have no idea what spellqueueing is" mmmm?

[primal jungle]

you need that priest weakaura that tells you when to ramp cuz the class is soooo hard

[wary belfry]

Back in my day we used to ramp based on bigwigs timer to mechanic

Adjust for how long the dmg takes to start compared to when 'mechanic' starts

Or the hp% phasing bosses where you gotta judge based on hp%

[spark river]

Belo ren dead in 28 pulls lol

[thorn plover]

nice work

[spark river]

First night with new guild

Going well for now

[silk ice]

Did your guild do 3 or 4 heals

[spark river]

4 heal

[silk ice]

[thorn plover]

how did you do

[silk ice]

Bring back 3 heal belo

[spark river]

I played very bad

[rustic copper]

4 heal belo

[spark river]

I was assigned on orbs

So it was just me running after orbs lol

[rustic copper]

Yeah nothing better to do

[silk ice]

Nah 4 heal belo, no one can do good on that unless you have paid actors

[rustic copper]

[spark river]

I did 180k hps

Its whatever

[thorn plover]

am i 2m convoke on lura or what

[rustic copper]

Every boss

[thorn plover]

it felt good on beloren

[rustic copper]

It’s always good

2 tv is a required talent

Don’t @ me

[thorn plover]

no convoke on intermission?

[rustic copper]

Optional

You can pair with tranq or get another use

I got another use but if I had spatial id prob pair

I cancelled my tranq half of the time anyways

[fervent mica]

why cancel... its not like 1 stack could hurt you

😄

[thorn plover]

RL has my tranq at pull, intermission,6:25, 9:30

[fervent mica]

oh... not talking about birb anymore

[fervent mica]

the nice thing about the 5 second voke 9 second tranq is your hps looks nice on these 15 second wipes <_<

[bright swift]

[rustic copper]

Tranq Lura intermission without spatial while holding a seed

Yeah let me blow my raid the fuck up

[grizzled seal]

Gratz @bright swift

The tier is done now

[rustic copper]

My main doesn’t have it

My alt has both jewelry from 1 kill