resto

[rustic copper]

Someone link them the qelive common mistakes page

[grand herald]

i mean, you have more casts, your stats are similar (he does have decently better mastery)

[rustic copper]

I’m not doing log analysis on my phone but that’s clearly a common mistakes issue

[grand herald]

it could be target selection or it could be damage taken in your group

[half star]

https://questionablyepic.com/resto-druid/common-mistakes/ Great stuff in here

[rustic copper]

It’s not target selection or dmg taken I don’t need to look at the log to even tell that lol get reel

[grand herald]

i mean he is talking about his RJ healing

he has 100% LB uptime, decent SM usage

i covered the other main issues

[spark river]

written by the one and only face2face

[glossy holly]

dude, he got mastery on use trinket equipped and he pairs it with convokes and rejuv's often

of course his basic hot will heal a lot

vaelgor trinket may not be considered as best to equip but mastery is still strong for heals

[dire coral]

Thanks for your feedback. I don't see any major mistakes, and I can't easily explain why my Rejuvenation heals for less than the other healer's.

The trinket really is a game-changer.
thx @half star @grand herald @glossy holly ❤️

[grand herald]

i mean, were you two in different groups?

[dire coral]

Yep

[grand herald]

so you guys were healing different people, different cohealers

thats why healing #'s and parse #'s hardly matter compared to looking at your play

[crystal kettle]

hi im in raid with another resto druid and their top healing is everbloom by a mile. Mine is always 5th or 6th is there something I'm missing with this ability??

[grand herald]

are you casting it on yourself

are you maintaining your hots on yourself

are you swiftmending yourself on cd

your build isnt missing photo or something?

[spark river]

My guess would be lb uptime

[slow goblet]

Since voulk writes both wowhead and icy. Why does one mention to LB urself but the other dosent? Or am i blind?

[crystal kettle]

sorry I wrote the complete wrong spell I mean symbiotic realtionship, the other rdruid has that as their top healing always and im confused by it since its my 5th/6th

[main timber]

They should both, but they get updated at different times so sometimes one is slightly more up to date

[grand herald]

then they are playing abysmally bad lmao

you probably mean everbloom

symbiotic is a nothing spell

[mystic crater]

Symbiotic relationship being top healing would be pretty funny

[glossy holly]

thats some next level top 1 heals

[crystal kettle]

aha okay im sorry for the confusion theres so many passives i dont recognize yet, thanks though

[grand herald]

so yes, as me and solarena said

are you following those tips?

[crystal kettle]

yes i miss swiftbloom and lifebloom sometimes but its way better can I ask though why its important to keep hots on myself?

[glossy holly]

amplifying the effect of blooms

talents and stuff makes it stronger

[grand herald]

Missing your LB sometimes is a huge problem

Assuming you arent talking for a second or two the entire fight

[crystal kettle]

I usually have around 90% uptime so it's something I will improve and my swiftbloom casts

[crystal kettle]

and thanks didnt know this

[lofty sage]

Looking for recommendations on what to use voidcore on. I have 289 Maledict chest, 285 deflector bracers, 295 Cane, 289 Heartof Wind, and 289 set pants.

[glossy holly]

well sounds like u could use some rolls in npx dungeon

weapon, ring, gloves to catalyse

[lofty sage]

Rolls give myth track?

I have hero all npx items

[wise galleon]

Roll does give myth track

If you do the m+ at a level which would prove myth track vault

so waht is it 10+

[glossy holly]

as long as u did minimum +10 dungeon that is

[lofty sage]

Yea running 12s and 13

[rustic copper]

you low abundance stacks and it is killing your mana, a big reason is you are casting rejuv back to back on fresh rejuvs
you are over using sotf regrowth
1 min convoke is for noobs swap and join the gamer club
the biggest issue is you are spell queueing a swiftmend after a regrowth which is using the sotf proc on the regrowth, you either need to use a rejuv before the swiftmend just to fit in a gcd or do a micro delay to not queue the swiftmend

I'm personally considering making a cast swiftmend cqs macro to fix this

and I cast my 2nd swiftmend bind if it is preceeded with a regrowth

that will fix your mana

[hearty coral]

I'm rejuving my 5 targets for heal absorbs cause I'm like the only one who does them so that's probably inefficient

[rustic copper]

that's fine but these refreshes are egregious

like 10 sec early is your average refresh

you are likely triple rejuving the same target by accident or something

a little early refreshing is fine

[hearty coral]

Yeah I'm probably overdoing it on the tanks and my absorb people

[rustic copper]

but if your avg early refresh is 10 sec it points to you making some kind of mistake

can you see hot duration in seconds on your ui?

[hearty coral]

No it's just the little symbol I'm just using the grid2 qelive profile

I probably could add numbers

[rustic copper]

you need numbers

[hearty coral]

I should probably make the bars a bit bigger too

[rustic copper]

especially if you refresh hots with swiftmend or tranq

you need to know how long it has

[hearty coral]

I want to do the yellow number thing

For when stuffs in pandemic just haven't looked into it much

[rustic copper]

because a hot can be at 30% and still have 12 sec left

[hearty coral]

The sotf regrowth thing is annoying I forget about the spell queue thing

And since I'm using WG less I don't use it to space it out anymore so that'll help once that's fixed

[thorn plover]

Blizz said they already "fixed" it. So I doubt they touch it again lol

[hearty coral]

Oh I meant fixed like for me

As in not doing that

Or not letting it happen lol

[hearty coral]

What's the trade off on 1 min convoke

Am I taking the 2nd TV point instead

Or whatever that 1/2 is called

[rustic copper]

you get a stronger convoke and you get to place it at the better times and on some fights you can just pair it with convoke

you take 2nd tv yeah

[hearty coral]

Pair convoke with convoke?

[rustic copper]

you can hold convoke for tranq and use them together

sry

tranq

[hearty coral]

Oh that's what I thought you meant haha

I was like am I missing some double convoke tech

Is it worth for paladins

I feel like it would be probably since damage is so constant

I forgot the 2 min convoke was stronger since 1 min convoke shortens it

2nd TV point sounds nice too

I'll try that along with what you said

Maybe force a manual rejuv before every swiftmend so I don't do the regrowth Swift on accident

I need to do a swiftmend timer too

[rustic copper]

I sometimes do that sometimes I just do a tiny gap

[hearty coral]

I'm missing a couple uses over the 5 or 6 minutes

[whole horizon]

what bosses is it better on? or do you think 2 min is superior everywhere in raid?

[rustic copper]

I run it everywhere

I think 2 tv is insane

I am very NB focused

[hearty coral]

It looks like it would be on paper

I was a little worried about doing the no 4pc

But it seemed to turn out ok

I'll try the other stuff next week

Maybe do some meme heroic to test it

[whole horizon]

no 4pc? huh?

[spark river]

more haste

if u drop 4pc

[whole horizon]

i figured it was something like that, i just have a hard time believing more haste would beat 4pc overall

but we're not casting WG less, correct? otherwise we'd be dropping embrace too right

[fleet jewel]

im yet to see someone actually press wg on cd w/ 4pc

[whole horizon]

nobody is because its a massive mana drain, but you dont have to cast it on CD to get value out of it

[fleet jewel]

its like 30-40k mana

[whole horizon]

savings?

[fleet jewel]

iirc yeah

and almost always more wasted cd than saved

its just so shit

7:48 fight @ 4.4 cpm I saved 32k

[glossy holly]

its definitely lacking to the point i've began to use shoulder haste mastery piece to break 4pc

[whole horizon]

is that not a lot or something?

[glossy holly]

depends

it could make a difference at the last minute of progress fight

[whole horizon]

i'm just confused, i can't tell if he thinks he should be getting way more or if he's actually done the math and converting that extra mana to HPS doesn't balance properly

[fleet jewel]

its not a lot

[whole horizon]

MS would give you a little bit more but thats 20% of your mana pool

almost, ig not quite 20

[fleet jewel]

I dont think ms, mana pots, or 4pc is giving you meaningful throughput if you are playing well

or maybe someone has a log only possible with these things

[glossy holly]

well currently mana pots is something sketchy

better than other pots? hard to say

more potent heals? seems better

that being said 4pc is somewhat weak and its benefits are limited to very specific scenarios

[whole horizon]

its definitely worth considering

for some reason i thought our 2pc was different and the 25% added healing was baked into our 4pc

i can see the light

[thorn plover]

the 4pc sucks

im using helm and gloves only

haste maxing

[fleet jewel]

🧘‍♂️

[whole horizon]

yeah i needed to remind myself what it did

[fleet jewel]

more haste gear from spore soon™

[whole horizon]

what's our longest fight? lura?

[thorn plover]

probably

heroic chim in a shitty pug can go 9m30

ask me how i know

[whole horizon]

that could have been bad

[fleet jewel]

[glossy holly]

my first 2 hc chims were 9.30 too

[whole horizon]

i misclicked a gif before they loaded

definitely almost just got banned

[thorn plover]

nah it was a funny gif

[glossy holly]

i saw everything

[fleet jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-chicken-turkey-alien-alien-cat-gif-3441906945271082344

[hearty coral]

Embrace was dropped when apex got good again I'm pretty sure

[thorn plover]

kinda, you cast it as much as your mana allows

but livliness is more hps than embrace

[whole horizon]

i'm just learning this

[thorn plover]

WG does lots of healing, but its expensive

[whole horizon]

no i mean i know that

i thought embrace was better than liveliness

ppl were swapping off MS to it when we realized we didnt need the mana

[thorn plover]

embrace is around 3% if you maintain 4cpm WG

[whole horizon]

and liveliness on that same log is only like 2%, no?

[thorn plover]

livliness alone is 2%, plus it buffs verdancy and photo

[whole horizon]

seems like a wash

[thorn plover]

wowanal doesnt take verdancy and photo into account

i mean the increase to it from livliness

[whole horizon]

oh bc of tickrate

[thorn plover]

yes

[whole horizon]

you can just check logs for that though

i feel like that still doesnt push it past embrace but i should just go read numbers instead of yapping about it ig

or both

[thorn plover]

no NB

funny joke

[whole horizon]

#3 US+EU on paladins

[thorn plover]

NB is a 4% talent

[whole horizon]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/cxZ3Pr1mfwYWXMbv?fight=28&type=healing

[thorn plover]

actually almost 5%

[whole horizon]

this was a month ago though

bad example probably

[thorn plover]

thats on giga buffed everbloom

and the guys other healers must be playing minecraft on the other monitor

[whole horizon]

we got nerfed 5/5 right

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/pRg3twHyXBQZCr9J?fight=33&type=summary&source=4

post-nerf, Liveliness, no Embrace, 2/2 TV, 2 min Convoke

[glossy holly]

[fleet jewel]

[glossy holly]

it is unusual solution to not take 1 min convokes

[whole horizon]

the drops in abundance correlate with the lowest throughput periods

i'm wondering if it's on purpose or if it really was just ignoring it/poor play

[glossy holly]

i mean it depends how you cooperate with other healers i guess

2 min convoke isnt necessarily bad thing

assuming 2min version is more powerful than 1min version

which i do not know at all

[whole horizon]

1 min convoke is a decent buff to the ability itself but it seems like even that talent point is better elsewhere rn

[glossy holly]

thats an dangerous assumption though

[whole horizon]

i'm gonna test it, it seems good. niko also mentioned it.

[glossy holly]

well im certainly unable to find any data on what spells convoke does so comparing them seems extremely difficult

[whole horizon]

gotta use wowanalyzer

my best log has 1 min convoke @ 9.7%

the talent looks to be between 5-7%, so it is really good

[weary trail]

Wait, we got nerfed ?

[whole horizon]

2 weeks ago, so if you didn't realize then it probably didn't matter at all lol

[weary trail]

Ah I read 2 minute convoke and got sweaty lol

[whole horizon]

nah

[glossy holly]

nah lol originally convoke is 2min cd

talent below it makes it 1min

[weary trail]

We need to bump that down to 1 sec cd. No more hots just channel spam

[glossy holly]

make it spin

MW 2.0

[weary trail]

Hell ya

Nature Chucker affinity

We get a leaf blower and just launch it at people

[glossy holly]

every petals does 10k hps

[weary trail]

https://tenor.com/view/byakuya-kuchiki-byakuya-senbonzakura-bankai-senbonzakura-kageyoshi-gif-26883954

[glossy holly]

Senbonzakura Kageyoshi

[rustic copper]

are you trying to ragebait me

[thorn plover]

lol jfc

[bronze meadow]

can I use bettercdmanager with arc ui?

[thorn plover]

why would you want to is the question

[bronze meadow]

just want a better look to my ui, without replacing dominos

[thorn plover]

arcui is a cdm replacement

[bronze meadow]

I guess it wouldn't work though how I wanted

[thorn plover]

why do you need 2

neither of those addons have anything to do with dominos

[bronze meadow]

in my case I put glows over my dominos

[thorn plover]

i guess im confused what youre trying to accomplish, arcui or better cdm shouldnt change that

[thorn plover]

so youre just using action bars in the middle of your screen instead of the cdm?

[bronze meadow]

I wanted to switch up my ui but I feel like I need some customization to dominos or a different addon for action bars

pretty much

[thorn plover]

i dont show my action bars at all, just have this

[hearty coral]

i used to do something like that lmao

[thorn plover]

arcui can show keybinds if you need them too

you could make it glow when ready etc

[bronze meadow]

my druid is like this, but will it be able to switch depending on what form im in

[thorn plover]

you can do that with arcui

but what you have seems like it works. if you just want to make it look better just download masque for dominos or something

[bronze meadow]

bet I'll do this, I kinda want better cooldown numbers which is why I wanted to try arcui or bcm

[thorn plover]

arcui is awesome, but it is a lot to set up

be prepared to spend like 2 hours doing what you have now

[bronze meadow]

masque it is

lmfao

[thorn plover]

most of the custom stuff i was doing with arcui is no longer needed either, this is literally all im doing with it now

early on lifebloom alert relied on arcui, etc

[fervent path]

is it worth it to make a WG macro that casts it on self if mouseover target is not avail?

[thorn plover]

no

well

kinda

[rustic copper]

ok I have a question

how do you normally cast wg

[fervent path]

mouseover

[thorn plover]

i was typing the same thing

[rustic copper]

and how do you normally cast normal heals like rejuv

[thorn plover]

lol

[fervent path]

mouseover

[rustic copper]

why aren't you mouseover casting wg?

[fervent path]

i am

[rustic copper]

ok

then yeah casting it at your target is not rly the play

[thorn plover]

what happens to your rejuv if theres no target

[rustic copper]

they are using mouseover baldy

[fervent path]

it casts on myself i think?

[thorn plover]

are you using macros or something like clicked

[fervent path]

oh i remember why i asked

first pull of WS

the fountain

sometimes i want to WG someone that is on the other side of fountain

[thorn plover]

that wont change anything if theyre los

[fervent path]

oh so theres not a LoS conditional on macros

[thorn plover]

no

[fervent path]

aight then ill just self cast WG on that pull every time

[rustic copper]

If you are Los of someone and you are paying attention you can wg someone that is in Los of you and that person

[thorn plover]

you can cast it on enemies too

if youre los of them, and theyre los of the person you want to hit

best of both worlds

lots of options, just be aware of where people are really

also i think i throw WG before we pull there and then dont cast it again til the stewards are dead

[fervent path]

yeah so this is a git gud angle

[thorn plover]

its a minor thing you can improve on, thats all

[fervent path]

yday on belo prog I realized I didnt have my innervate macroed so I was casting it on my target

[rustic copper]

[fervent path]

i was like

why am i at 90k mana at egg phase

[rustic copper]

the answer might be press regrowth

[fervent path]

it was

and has been

[thorn plover]

usually the answer to most questions

lol

[fervent path]

im trying to learn your ways, Niko

im actually like really trying to spam RG and im like yeah theres no way i casted more Rejuv than RG this fight

and then look at logs and its just 16cpm rg

Zzz

it surely is because i got 36% haste copium

[thorn plover]

thats low for sure

[fervent path]

can only fix it next week with 3 rolls and some luck cause i got 4 avail rolls on NPX

hope i get chest if not ig ill craft one

[thorn plover]

i think im 46% with flask

maybe 45

[fervent path]

if only I could get an M Suffuser but this char has no M Salh kills sadge

[rustic copper]

yeah that chest is tragic

[thorn plover]

tier chest

[rustic copper]

craft one rn

[thorn plover]

rip

[rustic copper]

and craft gloves

[fervent path]

i got no sparks

im noob

[rustic copper]

wait what

[thorn plover]

im keeping gloves for now to run crown pants lol

[rustic copper]

no sparks and 1 emb?

[rustic copper]

bis is crafted gloves and belt

[fervent path]

oh i can get 1 more spark somewhere and then the world tour one

[thorn plover]

wtf did you spend all your sparks on if you only have 1 embellish rn

[fervent path]

guess ill just do 3 npx next week and either craft hands or chest depending on which one doesnt drop from rolls

i was stupid ok?

[thorn plover]

what are those even

[rustic copper]

[fervent path]

and then cloak and neck

[rustic copper]

Crafting champion gear

[thorn plover]

is that far right one a belt?

[fervent path]

i was trying to get enough ilvl to farm keys fast T T

[rustic copper]

[fervent path]

ye

belt wrist ring

[rustic copper]

Make a new rdruid and start again

[thorn plover]

recraft it into mythic and wear it

[rustic copper]

They already have max myth belt

Oh they’re missing an embellishment

[thorn plover]

ya

[rustic copper]

Yeah that’s fine

[fervent path]

could get wrist craft no?

would get a little extra haste

[thorn plover]

you dont have sparks

[fervent path]

no i have champion

wrist

alr

[thorn plover]

oh then ya

wait your wrists you have are bis

[rustic copper]

Yeah that’s a little better

Are they

[fervent path]

would go from like 38 to like 49 haste or smth right

[thorn plover]

no nvm

[rustic copper]

There’s haste mastery ones

[thorn plover]

wrong icon

ignore me

[rustic copper]

Noob

[fervent path]

yeah they arent exactly super bad

but yeah crafted ones would 100% be better idk why I didnt think of that

[rustic copper]

Can we craft a 6th item yet

I thought we had enough by now

[fervent path]

ye this week

oh i didnt send the message with the thing sayin i could get 1 more spark for craft

yeah i could do the world tour (?) quest

for one more craft

but atp shouldnt i just wait for tuesday and see if NPX gods grace me with both gloves and chest ?

[rustic copper]

I mean crafted gloves are bis

[fervent path]

oh

[rustic copper]

Break the 4p

[glossy holly]

i mean sure

u get mastery instead of versa

[thorn plover]

im gonna run crown pants, tier gloves. probably run crafted cloak and belt

[fervent path]

id feel kinda bad if I craft gloves right now and then next tuesday i get gloves but no chest from NPX

i think ill just wait it out

[thorn plover]

unless vault gives me dragon cloak then ill do something else

[rustic copper]

why would you

what else would you craft

[glossy holly]

just roll first before u craft anything

[fervent path]

chest

[rustic copper]

oh

[fervent path]

if I dont get chest next week

[glossy holly]

tier gloves really isnt that bad lol

[rustic copper]

how many deep are you in npx

[fervent path]

2 rolls

ok so i have 5 more items i could drop, 3 bonus rolls next week

[rustic copper]

gg

[fervent path]

yeah ill just

delete this chara

[glossy holly]

deletes character that is 288

gg

[fervent mica]

prob a good idea to start over

[fervent path]

why was I so lucky fml

[rustic copper]

I mean

[fervent mica]

lol

[rustic copper]

if you inted your bonus rolls and crafts

you are really behind

[thorn plover]

season 2 is here

[rustic copper]

my main is inted

[thorn plover]

dont matter

[rustic copper]

my alt is way stronger

it is what it is

[whole horizon]

is ur alt a monk

[fervent mica]

i first rolled ring in npx before they did the refund... so never rolled there again

[fervent path]

ill just get lucky get chest next week craft gloves recraft wrists and then ill have 44% haste

[glossy holly]

i do not believe u get that much haste from those items

[fervent path]

oh but i will

feel it in my bones...

[glossy holly]

[fervent path]

[glossy holly]

obsessed ppl are scary

[fervent path]

now you are sounding like my ex again

[radiant narwhal]

its actually crazy how that works

[fervent path]

[radiant narwhal]

my fucking FIRE MAGE rolled 6 times and got 6 BiS items

[glossy holly]

fire mage

good joke

[radiant narwhal]

my rdruid got every Chimerus item

[fervent path]

at the end of the day most of the healing im leaving on the table is just due to me being a chud ass chud

[glossy holly]

well anyways i would hold off any crafting part

[fervent path]

yeah ill just recraft wrist cause free real state

wait is the world tour spark counted toward season total?

[thorn plover]

no

[fervent path]

NVM IM SAVED

[rustic copper]

lol

[thorn plover]

im crafting wrist on tuesday because its my last hero piece

[rustic copper]

found a $100 bill in your pocket W

[glossy holly]

wait

i thought it counts?

cuz i got 12 total

[fervent path]

and 1 spark in your inventory

[thorn plover]

you had 13 then

[fervent path]

most likely

7th craft next week

[thorn plover]

im at 12 and have 1 in my bag

[rustic copper]

crazy what happens when chars hit bonus rolls

[fervent path]

wait im trolling I could just be running 289 suffuser in raid

[rustic copper]

no shot

[fervent path]

298 coach > 289 suffuser? i dont believe in sims only in feelings

[thorn plover]

why isnt suffuser upgrade

slacker

[fervent path]

oh nvm its 285

[rustic copper]

do you think I am going to run keys

[fervent path]

not 289

[rustic copper]

so I can gear up a char that is not even in for lura

[thorn plover]

lol

[rustic copper]

my main doesn't have 298 either

lol

[glossy holly]

but but 291 ilvl

[rustic copper]

crafted weap

[thorn plover]

right?

[rustic copper]

do you like my rings

[thorn plover]

surely this week

[fervent path]

39% haste with 285 suffuser instead of 298 coach MAYBE?

[thorn plover]

suffuser is like, not very good

its ok, just not great

285 drums sims higher lol

[fervent path]

[thorn plover]

than my 298 suffuser

[fervent path]

time to farm delve renown

[glossy holly]

or just get hero HoW

[thorn plover]

i got hero drums week 1 i think

[glossy holly]

boosting it would at least give same result as m track version

[thorn plover]

ran it til last week

[fervent path]

what is how

[thorn plover]

heart of wind

[fervent path]

ah

[glossy holly]

heart of wind

[sinful jackal]

ah

[fervent path]

heart of wind

[grim totem]

so...for cat dps as resto..is there a macro for catweaving or just click on go

[thorn plover]

are you taking fluid form

kinda mandatory if youre catweaving

[formal fjord]

Its my first time on MVanguard today, having so much fun

its such a neat fight

[fervent path]

my NS RG macro wasnt working cause it was on a mouse button forgot it worked like that

[grim totem]

uh..not sure as new i just borrowed a spec from um wowhead lol

[vagrant niche]

I’ve just started playing my druid this exp and I’m wondering what healing addons you like to use? There are a couple of choices so I’m wondering which one is best to set up. Thanks

[formal fjord]

anyone use a specific build for this vanguard fight please?

[formal fjord]

I use danders mostly

[vagrant niche]

I’ve seen that one so I’ll set it up, thanks

[formal fjord]

no worries

[coarse robin]

I like grid2 better except it’s not easy to setup unless you like the profiles on questionably epic

[grim totem]

there's addon profiles on questionably epic? lol

[vagrant niche]

good to know, thanks

[coarse robin]

In the Druid midnight addon blog post ya

[vagrant niche]

thanks for all the help

[marsh prism]

ive linked that page on dreamgrove.gg/resto

[formal fjord]

nothing wrong with talking about what we like as well

@marsh prism did you finish that sculpture"

[grim totem]

thannk you nance. i'm looking at that site now...I was asked as my guild has no druid at all to be a resto druid..so now i'm attempting to learn to learn it lol...they didn't necessarily do me any favors by then running me through 8 10s to help gear it some (not necessarily with the right gear mind you but gear nonetheless) so yep here we go

[marsh prism]

nah not yet i have like 2 weeks i think for all of my finals stuff to come together. i promise ill ping you when i have pics :D

[marsh prism]

it links out to basically every resource that's relevant for us so if you're gonna be spending time learning i honestly recommend bookmarking it

[grim totem]

already did

[marsh prism]

its how i navigate to literally anything i need so i kind of just selfishly add things i want :D

[grim totem]

hard part for me is the addons and stuff that play sound alerts when buffs wear off and stuff i don't hear (99% deaf) so...i need more visual on buff timers and crap

[marsh prism]

i'm hard of hearing and autism/adhd give me processing issues so i definitely know what you mean. for me a big part of my ui is always figuring out exactly what i actually need to see and turning off pretty much everything else that i can

feel free to let me know if you ever need help sorting that kind of stuff out

[formal fjord]

sounds good!!

[formal fjord]

same here nice to know im not alone lol

[marsh prism]

official autistic d/hoh resto druid club membership: 2

possibly 3

[mystic crater]

In before blizzard makes all of those private auras too

[grim totem]

lol yep deaf autistic/adhd here lmao excellent club

[marsh prism]

welcome im nance

[formal fjord]

welcome

[worthy estuary]

do i need to use cat form if i play wildstalker

trying out resto druid for the first time

[thorn plover]

no

[thorn plover]

going cat has nothing to do with healing, you can ignore it until you learn the healing part. it is the best way to do ST dps though. sending wrath or starfire is fine too

[rich totem]

Forigve my super noob quesiton. just became interested in Resto druid. I dont understand the dps. We are suppose to go cat dps i get that. but why do logs use moonfire/sunfire/wrath/starsurg etc... dont we lose damage? or is it just because we cant get into melee at certian points so we use cast? When do we use moonfire/sunfire? Starsurge when?

[thorn plover]

dps guide in the pins

[thorn plover]

#resto message

all g, its not the most intuitive link to find

[rich totem]

Yeah i see that

[thorn plover]

if you prefer to cat dps, thats fine too, just move the caster talents into cat

[rich totem]

Ty for your time ❤️

[grim totem]

so because wowhead doesn't use owlkin in their talent if i wanted to owlweave instead of cat weave what the heck do i change lol

[thorn plover]

you dont go boomkin to dps

you just cast wrath/starfire/starsurge as caster form

wowhead talents should already have that

[grim totem]

ah ok cool

so i won't actually shift in owlkin form just use those spells

[thorn plover]

yeah the default build on wowhead already has caster talents

correct

[grim totem]

see that i can weave in no problem...but me and melee..well we don't get along lol

theres a reason i played mage for 21 years ahaha

[formal fjord]

lol thats fair, it was a steep learning curve for me doing cat last season.

[grand herald]

Honestly i dont get the melee thing

There isnt even many melee mechanics this season anyways?

[wary belfry]

its just ranged has 64x (or more) playspace where they can still deal damage

Not even about mechanics mostly

[tacit grail]

Hello what would be the best instance to spend my 10 bonus roll on ?

[mental belfry]

NPX

[tacit grail]

okay thx !

[cunning parcel]

@marsh prism I forget if you were the one that asked but scuffed kill it first night after reset

They nerfed tf out of the boss which makes sense with hof but

[tired pumice]

Hello unholy druids

[wary belfry]

They're not wrong

[formal fjord]

lol hello, im surprised the author didnt catch that, I saw it so early haha

[tired pumice]

Havok 🤝 unholy druid

[solid hemlock]

probably llm summary hallucination

[formal fjord]

lol probably

[solid hemlock]

or sleepy human 😄

[marsh prism]

we are still in crystal carrier prog hell save me

[solid hemlock]

im kind of glad my guild is not good enough for anything beyond heroic

lol

[mystic crater]

We’re working on intermission right now, pretty crazy fight

Got to phase 2 a couple times but not with everyone up rofl

[wary belfry]

same though I imagine intermission is only relevantly difficult for seed holders

[mystic crater]

Our comp isn’t great atm

Healer comp I should say

[wary belfry]

A bit of a snoozer for non seed holder

[mystic crater]

Next week should be better, we’re getting one of our healers back from a vacation

[solid hemlock]

does holding a crystal inflate your hps number due to self healing or something?

[mystic crater]

It’s very hectic for crystal carriers

Too much going on hah

[solid hemlock]

yeah i can imagine since the mechanics will hurt you even more in mythic hehe

[mystic crater]

But I mean healing crystal carriers is pretty important so I wouldn’t say inflate

[wary belfry]

It was fine the one time I did it but I probably just got lucky

[mystic crater]

Nah not even from damage

It’s more what you have to pay attention to

[solid hemlock]

is there even more on mythic?

[mystic crater]

Since if you get hit or have a crystal hit, it kills the raid

You’re constantly having to juggle it

[solid hemlock]

yeah just less margin for error i guess

[mystic crater]

Intermission is fun since there can be some unfortunate overlaps with mechanics and require very accurate timing

For dropping and picking them up

[solid hemlock]

on heroic i didnt even have to drop teh crystal on one attempt

[mystic crater]

And tbh with raid nights being a while, it gets really mentally draining for them ahah

Yeah mythic adds a lot to the fight

Mythic is fun though, and it feels rewarding getting the kill

[solid hemlock]

yeah heroic was hard for like two nights and then it was just a dance really, so almost anti-climactic

[mystic crater]

Everything is kinda a dance in the end, mythic just has a lot more going on and more to react to

[rustic copper]

the post p3 glaive night

[analog skiff]

Why is rdudu so good on lura ?

[rustic copper]

We’re good on every boss

[gaunt willow]

Relatively stacked + rot damage = win for rdruid

[analog skiff]

beloren seems bad but yeah overall is good

[analog skiff]

i thought its because of the crystal players

[proven phoenix]

even beloren is fine

play 2 minute convoke, convoke each egg

and pull

[analog skiff]

i did 1 min

it was perfect

but not a dudu fight for sure xd

disc and monk have more fun there

anyways this is what i mean on lura

[proven phoenix]

druid does really good healing in the intermission and split group phases

(most of p1, all of p3)

druid is also a very good crystal holder although anyone can do that now

[analog skiff]

i see ok

[uneven narwhal]

How smart is convoke and how smart is wild growth in terms of assigning buffs to lowest hp targets?

[ember folio]

not

I believe any target not 100% hp is as likely

[smoky sail]

not another archon tierlist

[marsh prism]

orange bis..

[wicked veldt]

interesting that S tier is already orange

nepotism at work...

[onyx trail]

[wicked veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/wallace-and-gromit-wallace-gromit-aardman-aardman-animation-browsing-gif-20100041

[marsh prism]

https://open.spotify.com/track/6p6TjiJHc1kJQt5dXzkdrs?si=04683b7885184b2a

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/642228160074612737.gif?v=1

[wicked veldt]

this is not good sorry

[marsh prism]

nvm youre right

no need to tuck queen

[onyx trail]

i dont

[marsh prism]

https://tenor.com/view/hog-exploding-exploding-hog-funny-idiot-gif-13702011850125732811

[wicked veldt]

please do not encourage them

[marsh prism]

wLMFAO

[onyx trail]

LOL

[radiant narwhal]

ARCHON

Pres is the king healer

Everyone else is a poser

[modern spade]

Why are balance spells so much stronger than feral spells? Wildstalker does more damage with wrath and starfire and starsurge than rip, rake and shred. The only saving grace is heart of the wild, but i've basically used that as a mana regenerator...

[haughty ibex]

cuz thats how the game is right now, the buffed magicspelles some time ago

[gaunt willow]

They really should buff feral and leave balance spells as it is the resto healer damage still isn’t that competitive

[real carbon]

Hey folks, I have set up personal NSRT reminders (imported from lorrgs) for Mythic bosses, but when I go into a mythic fight they aren't showing up at all. How can I test them outside of a raid environment to make sure that they are working?

[modern spade]

How to get my sim healing number? QE doesnt give anything useful, i want to see the difference in the talent trees

I know wowhead recommends wildstalker for healing, but they dont show any numbers to back it up, i want to see myself what does more

[haughty ibex]

yeah qe sucks!! u cannot sim diff talents as druid

there has been some calculations made by rly high iq people so id trust them yk

[analog skiff]

yep

[modern spade]

I kinda prefer grove guardians, it is just like triple the damage and it is free and less risky

[haughty ibex]

u mean keeper?

[modern spade]

yes, it feels so much better

[haughty ibex]

if it does for u then jst play it

is objectively worse

[solar hollow]

What are the best boots for a resto druid? Eclipse Espadrilles, Rootslippers of the Luminous Bloom, Void-Claimed Shinkickers, or Domanaar's Dire Treads?

[spark river]

10% worse in keys and probably even more in raid

But im not going to stop people from making poor decisions

[haughty ibex]

try to show him the calculations if there are still around

cuz he wanted to sim

but feelings >>

[tranquil schooner]

Is this decent? Got hero crafted staff rn. probably wont raid myth this tier. Guess it makes sense to go all in here with crests, enchant etc?

[haughty ibex]

yeah is rly good man

[tranquil schooner]

ty :)

[azure jungle]

What does everyone prefer, vertical or horizontal frames?

[solid hemlock]

i have mine on left, centre of screen

[subtle cobalt]

A bit of each 😛 Raid is horizontal centre bottom, 5 man is vertical left of centre.

[subtle cobalt]

May or may not apply to you, but you have to make sure to load the personal note for each boss. reminders tab > personal reminders button (or shared if that is what you use) then click the load next to the correct import

[whole horizon]

in one of the tabs there are several options to preview your alert layouts, there is also an option to test the first 60s of any note

[spark river]

@modern spade

There are your numbers for keys

[novel pivot]

hello fellow nature enthusiasts, just a small question, which build do you use for raids ? i feel like i can't do anything good and my parses are quite low

builds/tips n tricks

[spark river]

Well its probably your gameplay rather than the build

Most people use the wowhead build with slighta adjustments

[azure jungle]

Might have to move mine.

[novel pivot]

so do you have some good guides i could follow to learn from it ?

[subtle cobalt]

https://questionablyepic.com/resto-druid/common-mistakes/ good first stop 🙂

[novel pivot]

thx

[real carbon]

That might be my problem, thanks!

[dry belfry]

[thorn plover]

Gm

[fleet jewel]

bloodtalon reset again

[wise galleon]

so I amazingly reached 18+ resi feeling very proud but now guardians are everywhere and I dont get invites for 19+ D:

[lucid token]

Do we place LB on ourselves in m+ so so we can place ourselves between the tank and ranged dps?

[thorn plover]

i do but not for that reason

[cunning parcel]

which part?

I think crystal is def the hardest role in the fight to be fair

(i also didnt do it so I dont know if it actually is)

[spark river]

chad

[cunning parcel]

do it on whoever needs the most healing at the time

on most bosses I have it on a dps

[wise galleon]

Um should we get leech or avoidance in M+? My friend told me that avoidance applies just to certain spells not all aoe spells so it's not worth getting

[thorn plover]

You can look up what avoidance works on, there's a site for that if you google it

Might be on not even close, I can't remember for sure

[wise galleon]

Zamn good site regardless, thanks

[rustic copper]

@grizzled seal @bright swift how do you guys handle wanting to cast rg sm rj but not accidently sotf the rg

do you just cast rj sm rj

or do you do a tiny gap

[bright swift]

If I do it, I do a small gap yea

[rustic copper]

do you think it is worth to have a 2nd sm bind

for sm /cqs

or if that even works

it probably works

[bright swift]

I've not had many issues with it

[rustic copper]

I feel like I'm losing a lot of healing when I do the delays

[glossy holly]

darn it, of all trinkets im bonus rolling emberwing one

[rustic copper]

why are we bonus rolling ws

[glossy holly]

well all other dungeons got plenty of useless items

npx is completed pretty much

and im still running coee trinket so

[rustic copper]

I don't even know what that trinket is

no raid unlucky

[glossy holly]

the void area gifted trinket

[rustic copper]

gg

[glossy holly]

i could technically farm for that drum from delves i suppose...?

[thorn whale]

Impossible to do chimaerus?

[glossy holly]

i've been doing hc chims, cant get in for m chim but i do already own a lfr version lol

so my combo atm is lfr gaze and Coee

[trail crown]

Isn’t hc gaze better than other myth trinkets?

[glossy holly]

generally yeah

[trail crown]

I’ve started bonus rolling Chim hc after Nexus

[peak charm]

Are we innverating pally on m lura for crystals?

[bright swift]

Yeah it's good

they get a lot of value from that

[wise galleon]

https://questionablyepic.com/live/trinkets
You can see based on ilvl of the trinket whats the best option you have. I would argue a windrunners spire mythic trinket would also get you some other myth gear in windrunner spire you might need

But gaze is extremely strong ye, even hc

Or well, gaze hc + voidcore beats every trinket lol

Thats crazy

Just get gaze lol

[trail crown]

Yeh crazy right

[silent ruin]

i thought gaze+ ribbon is strongest

[fervent mica]

voidcore is the item that upgrades trinket/weapon, not a 2nd trinket

[silent ruin]

oh

u mean pseudo mythic trinket

since it's 288 if u upgrade it with voidcore

[spark river]

298

but yes

[lyric surge]

They said h gaze upgraded

[spark river]

heroic gaze upgraded is 285

[trail crown]

Is it better to double-rejuv people in a raid, or spread single rejuv's?

[spark river]

spread

[gentle nova]

Double rejuv and pandemic em

[gentle nova]

Noob

[spark river]

[trail crown]

Am I getting baited here

What's Pandemic again

[kind star]

30m pug smh my frames only show 20.. time to make it look fucked up ig

[gentle nova]

Pandemic for rejuv is 7

[gentle nova]

No, you get higher abundance uptime by doing pandamic rejuvs

[trail crown]

Oh Pandemic is the thing where dot refresh can be additive to the remaining duration?

[gentle nova]

Yes

[grand herald]

or hot, yes

[trail crown]

But how does it give you higher abundance uptime, still the same number of rejuv's/minute right

[gentle nova]

It makes you stay at a higher abundance average instead if dropping low and high

Allowing you to cast stronger and cheaper rgs for more time

[trail crown]

Do you get extra seconds of duration? Like 7s + 20s = 30s?

[gentle nova]

Pandemic is 30% of total duration and that 30% gets added to the total duration of the new hot you apply

[trail crown]

My math isn't mathing or I'm too dense for this

Sounds like all it does it give you a longer ramp phase, right

But once you let them drop, you start fresh again

[spark river]

well the point is to never let them drop

[grizzled seal]

it expands your regrowth window for longer

it makes nature's bounty do way more

[gentle nova]

the rejuv count is the same, the difference is the abundance graph will remain telatively stable

Instead of high and low peaks

[trail crown]

Yeh it's a bit of leeway

[gentle nova]

Allowing you to cast more rgs

In that window

[trail crown]

Still ideally you refresh every [RegrowthDuration]

So what's your go-to approach, you just pick two groups and double rejuv them all?

[gentle nova]

Yup including yourself

[fervent mica]

1 group + you is 12

[crystal kettle]

is there any specific difference in healing mythic I'm getting 30 logs but log analyzer says I played it pretty well?

[fervent mica]

post a log

[spark river]

Send the log

[fervent mica]

wowanalyzer can only do so much

[crystal kettle]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/MDwLQYa9jhFG34c8?fight=last&type=healing

i went mega oom like 90% in tbh

[spark river]

Just a disclaimer that what mattiu is talking about is advanced stuff you shouldnt worry about if you have fundamental mistakes

[trail crown]

Cool. Sorry for asking the obvious, doing a raid for the first time now since swapping from m+ haha

[fervent mica]

push regrowth

[grand herald]

dont use mana pots, cast regrowth, more LB uptime

more overall casts

[crystal kettle]

oh looking at it now i thought i used regrowth way more

[grand herald]

dont cast dps spells

[crystal kettle]

but no mana pots??

[spark river]

Not using regrowth on a boss like vorasius must be living hell

Yes no mana pots

[crystal kettle]

yes it was hell

:D

[lyric surge]

Reck pot

[fervent mica]

you're out of mana because you aren't using regrowth

[spark river]

If you get the most out of abundance you dont need mana pots

[crystal kettle]

Ohhhhhhhh

[spark river]

You dont even need ms

[crystal kettle]

ms?

[grand herald]

master shapeshifter

dps for mana

[crystal kettle]

okay thank you I will try on myth dreamrift, also the right pot is recklessness then and not light's potential?

[grand herald]

yes

[crystal kettle]

oki thanks

[rustic copper]

you have the same rejuv's/min an the same avg rejuvs out throughout the fight but if you refresh rejuvs instead of creating new ones during your ramp you will be lower during your rejuv ramp's which means higher when you are pressing regrowth

given the same avg abundance throughout the fight, I want my abundance when I am pressing regrowth to be higher which is the same as saying I want my avg abundance while pressing rejuv to be lower

[trail crown]

Im still oblivious but I'll blame it on me just being a noob resto druid

[rustic copper]

it is advanced tech

[trail crown]

But it feels like the net gain should be zero

[thorn plover]

Can someone make it stop raining at my house constantly. Thanks

[gentle nova]

Thats cause you dont understand how rg works

[trail crown]

Other than that it is reduced in cost + increased in crit strike for every rejuv we have up?

[gentle nova]

What niko says is pretty clear

[trail crown]

Don't get me wrong Im here to be educated

[gentle nova]

You want higher abundance when you want to press rg

When you wanna press rg you dont wanna be refreshing rejuvs for your abundance

[glossy holly]

well at least i got the hero track drums from first delve run

thats something

[trail crown]

Either way you still have a 17s window before abundance starts dropping, whether you go from 5s back to 22s or from 0s to 17s, right

[thorn plover]

Upgrade that shit and it's still like the 5th best trinket

[glossy holly]

[thorn plover]

Outsims 298 suffuser

[glossy holly]

worst part is

i got to run bunch of regular rituals for hero crests

[thorn plover]

Gross

[fervent mica]

20 crests per 5 mins

not really gross <_<

[glossy holly]

no can do, blizz doesnt know how to properly put relevant crest to suitable content level

[thorn plover]

I don't like playing the game outside raid, so everything is gross

[rustic copper]

real and true

I am getting chain declined from +10s rn on my alt

fucking kill me

[thorn plover]

Ya im not doing that

[rustic copper]

I need to get my bonus rolls out of the way and then never do a key again

[spark river]

I would easily switch. 40 degrees summer is creeping in where im at.

[thorn plover]

All next week is forecast 30+

But I'm trying to do some construction jobs at home and the rain is making it very difficult

Gonna be hot and humid af soon

[trail crown]

Still trying to wrap my head around this. Are you just saying that suppose you anticipate a damage phase coming and you decide to start to ramp up, it's better to refresh existing rejuv's in the pandemic window first before putting out new ones?

[glossy holly]

mm i would put hots on ones who doesnt have one

u will be doing many things during ramp anyways

[trail crown]

I mean the hots with like 6s remaining will fade out during the ramp phase anyways, might as well bank that extra seconds and add some duration to the payoff phase

That part I can understand

[glossy holly]

well there is no priorities when it comes to rejuv's

if u think refreshing old ones is better than spreading it across the parties

it may very well be

[hybrid imp]

How does the final tick of lifebloom works? Does it also proc if I extend it with Swiftmend? Is it worth it to not swiftmentd the target who has lifebloom to proc the last one more often?

[glossy holly]

it will proc with swiftmend too

u do not want to let LB drop at all

regardless of it proccing bloom when it drops

[hybrid imp]

So the best is to let it go to 4sec and mend/reapply it if I understand it right

[glossy holly]

yes

[hybrid imp]

Thanks

[grizzled seal]

It will not

Also it's 4.5 seconds, not 4

[glossy holly]

aah u mean LB tick

i was referring to blooms

[grizzled seal]

Yes?

It will not bloom when you extend with swiftmend

[hybrid imp]

So no swiftmend on the LB target?

[grizzled seal]

You always swiftmend LB target in raid now

One bloom is completely irrelevant

[glossy holly]

so whats that burst of healing on other members

[hybrid imp]

So the last proc is not that important?

[grizzled seal]

You care about 4th apex and photosynthesis

Just keep the uptime and rejuvs on LB

You are trying to minmax 0.1% of your hps

[hybrid imp]

Okey, I was just wondering cause the skill says the last proc is "big"

[pine stump]

LB in raid still rely on ourselves?

[grizzled seal]

Read photosynthesis and apex

Even if you let every lifebloom go to pandemic and manually refresh they will still represent less than 10% of your total final blooms

[hybrid imp]

Right, thanks

[glossy holly]

pardon me, i shouldnt have said procs from swiftmend itself

lol

[tough portal]

Veqad is expert in confidently stating wrong shit everyday in this chat

Green name when?

[glossy holly]

[kind star]

He been spinning too much he confused

[keen plover]

Hey I’m a hard stuck resil 17 pug only player (also 6/9M). I think I’ve gone as far as I can on my own. Is there anyone here pushing 18-20s who can help coach me? Also does anyone know of a good way to find a m+ group

[thorn plover]

🤣

[thorn plover]

How did you find 17s?

If they were relatively easy: 18s and 19s aren't much different
If they were hard: keep practicing there

[haughty ibex]

i think there is ppl here that offer coaching but idk, u can also just try to send logs here so can look

there is like discord servers to find people and if i was u i would just add anyone that played well and ask randomly to play keys, be social :DD

[thorn plover]

Pugging 18s and up is gonna be rough

[haughty ibex]

not really

like is just mentality gap

there is no hps or dps checks at that keylvl

[keen plover]

Seat and spire were tough. The other 17s weren’t too bad. 18s have been a nightmare. I’ve only finished 2/15+ attempts. POS missed by 30 seconds. Caverns by 2-3 minutes.

[grand herald]

what have your issues been in 18's

[keen plover]

It’s pretty common for me to lose a dps on the big pulls or during a boss fight. The crazy pulls where ppl drop to 10-20% hp in 17s usually end up with a death in 18s.

I find it so hard to track if it’s my fault or pugs being dumb

[grand herald]

what type of things are they dying to

you should be looking over each death

[keen plover]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/JH2QMjGZ74Wp6qFm?fight=5&type=summary

heres my 30sec loss to +18 pos. I missed a green circle on the 2nd boss. Other than that I think I played this one pretty well. Let me know if you see anything I’m messing up

[topaz cedar]

[haughty ibex]

HAAAHAH

blame the healer....

[topaz cedar]

1 heal plz

[grand herald]

well, the second death at least

man just rotted out

what happened there

no RJs on the dps during the one real damage event is rough

3rd 4th and 5th also look like you coulda done something

[topaz cedar]

do you have cast target on your nameplates?

that is a major help predicting who is going to get deleted soon

[grand herald]

really it looks like people dying over 15+ seconds are only getting one direct heal from you

are you forgetting your pre hots

wheres the SM + Rgs

[keen plover]

Maybe I’m dumb (or not reading logs correctly)

Doesn’t this show he had 2 rejuvs and I hit him with 2 regrowths within 2.4 seconds of him dying?

[stable verge]

Switch to like the full Timeline

That way you'll see the cast or healing received

'cause some of the multiple heals could be the regrowth hots ticking

[haughty ibex]

she even procced natures guaardian so u had some time to top her off even more

if i have bark avail i send it on the torrent target

[grand herald]

second death has no rjs

this one you just dont direct heal them

[topaz cedar]

cast 1 rg on shaman and then 1 rj right before he died

[grand herald]

the RGs are ticks of the hot

over 15 seconds you they should have easily been topped multiple times with RGs

[topaz cedar]

but also that torrent is scary st beam that you should know who its being cast on

[grand herald]

this is your sum total of casts to someone dying

2 rjs and a rg

over 15 seconds

just make it 3 rgs and itd be better

[keen plover]

Makes sense. I’ll be on my computer in an hour or so. Would anyone be willing to step through the log and show me how I should be filtering / what I should be looking for?

[grand herald]

you even had ironbark up

[grand herald]

you can sort by casts, selected the person who died as the target, and zoom the timeline to their deathwindow

to see what you actively did to them during that time

or select no target to see what you were doing during their death in general

on the death log you also can click the healing events to see how much they are getting healed by each source

honestly, I prefer to VoD review M+

can look at logs to get exact details you might miss, but a vod gives you an easier overview of the entire situation

[keen plover]

Yah I’ll start recording some of my runs.

@grand herald if you have a free 10 mins tonight dm me

[haughty ibex]

am i looking at the log wrong or did he never cast ib through the whole dungeon

[grand herald]

this is the third death what you cast for example

why we wrathing and starfiring D:

[haughty ibex]

no wait nvm he did

im dumb

[grand herald]

yeah this was IB usage

[haughty ibex]

yeye i saw i was zoomed in for some reasons

[grand herald]

wait

is every ironbark cast on self

or is log being funky

ok yeah the text when you hover is just funky

yeah nvm this is the real image

[haughty ibex]

yeah is super weird to look at

to me at first shoed 0 casts

[tough portal]

You did cast 1 Regrowth, not 2, but also got caught out casting Wrath when the Torrent cast started and there was no Ironbark or personal defensive used even tho they were all available.
This is an example of a time where just using Swiftmend to extend hots while disregarding mechanics and timing can come back to bite you (I am #1 VI hater).

[fervent path]

been a great day of keys today yeah

[lyric totem]

hey guys dumb question, is there any good mana food for healer except mage cookies?

[hearty coral]

Use the mana tea

It stacks to 1000

8% er tick

Very cheap

Uh

Not mana tea it's one of the flowers

Sanguithorn

[fervent path]

sanguithorn yeah

[lyric totem]

i found this?

[fervent path]

thats the one i use

[lyric totem]

8% max mana

[fervent path]

sanguithorn mana tea

its the name

pretty cheap like 1g per pop

[hearty coral]

Idk what that one is

But 8% is good

[lyric totem]

thanks guys

[hearty coral]

Sanguithorn is 8% also

Just do whatever is cheapest

[lyric totem]

yeah found it for 2g too mine was 7g but i thought there is some mega op stuff^^

[hearty coral]

The mega op stuff was fixed

I think

It was old stuff

That didn't get crunched right

I posted about it here during launch but I don't recall the name

Also I don't think it could stack to 1k

Oh it was only op at old max level

Just scroll through all the food and waters if you want to double check

I believe 8% is the best though

[lyric totem]

thanks

[thorn plover]

Mage food is better for quick drinks, sanguithorn for long drinks

Sanguithorn ramps up 1% per sec to 8%. Mage food is 5% no ramp

Mage food is better below 9 seconds

[fleet jewel]

doesnt mage food ramp...

or is the tooltip a lie

[proven phoenix]

it does

[fleet jewel]

[thorn plover]

I don't think it does. Look at a log for it. I think the tooltip is wrong

The mana restored in the combat log is the same every tick. It's not for tea

It definitely did at one point though

[hoary river]

For RDruid, can you clip all dots at like <3sec, just like LB? Does it matter?

[peak charm]

How do people get this using danders frames for crystals on lura ?

[thorn plover]

Yes

It's 30% of base duration, always

[thorn plover]

You can manually add frames by name some how..haven't messed with it. I'm just using the unhalted ones

[rotund geode]

i start to feel a bit sweaty healing 17s right now is that normal

i wasnt expecting to sweat that much before like 18 or 19s

[thorn plover]

Pugs?

[rotund geode]

ye

im only pugging

i have almost 0 downtime to not heal

and it makes being careful to mechanic a reeeaal challenge

[wary belfry]

Those are boss frames if that helps any

im not very familiar with danders for specific help

I also use unhalted for them