resto

[glossy holly]

some classes do

[haughty ibex]

i mean is so minuscule

[kind star]

truuuue

I just dont understand ppl like this I love to utilise all my toolkit idk

[sudden rover]

me too bro

[silent ruin]

the benefit u get is ur healer don't get oneshot and u get to live
downside ur dps parse goes lower

[kind star]

Im always so surprised when I see like a ret using sac/freedom or some evoker using caut on tank

[haughty ibex]

@pliant notch u rly gotta start using convoke more, is so broken. u used on miniboss then not once on the eagle packs, and on crawth unless i missed smth u used it once offensively

like ur chilling but it would make ur life so much easier

[kind star]

Always had the habit to save for dire situation but on a 1min its dumb

[haughty ibex]

ye but on some bosses is super scripted

[kind star]

Ye ik some bosses u can pmuch counter the mechanic everytime with it

[haughty ibex]

like on crawth yk when dmg is, u see boss % so u also see when monkas phase will be

[silent ruin]

i think my convoke usage on crowth is always after interrupt

[haughty ibex]

ye as it should be 💯

[silent ruin]

then tranq is when people take random ticks or when the dots is getting too much for me to heal without

[kind star]

ive learned it the hard way starting to do 14s xd

[muted field]

So NS+convoke doesn't work anymore? Yikes

[silent ruin]

14 resil still pretty chill

15 is weird
it's mostly dps check

[kind star]

yeah but going from my 8s to 14 theres finally actually sooome damage

[silent ruin]

and some are like tanks pulling too big and u don't have enough cd to heal through them

[kind star]

maybe im just bad too

[silent ruin]

or dps not doing enough damage

[pure zinc]

tank routes and pulls are a big impact on dps imo.

[silent ruin]

like dps in npx right side boss standing in the light without defensive is kinda pain

like i can heal through it with convoke

but if no one uses defensive

[kind star]

only tried a 14 npx that we didnt time so far :/

[silent ruin]

it's actually super hard for me to keep everyone topped

[kind star]

we couldve but they kicked the wrong image on last boss twice T.T

[silent ruin]

never kicked the boss wrong yet

npx left side is like

first big pull is chill

then after the 1st pull left side

most tank try to pull double seer+ mana bomb

can't heal through that over 2 rotation

and sometimes u get targeted and the stun on u so kinda eh..

Maybe a me problem not sure

[kind star]

I was also 259 at the time ig that doesnt help lol

[livid hearth]

It is probably character/gear based but I had thought all raid trinkets even at heroic are better than dungeon trinket i had thought but it seems in my friends case heart of wind from windrunners spire is better than next bis raid trinket from paladins for dungeon content?

[main timber]

When trinkets are close in value the rest of your gear can swing rankings

[kind star]

cries in radiant sunstone D: altho ngl saved some life here and there ig

[silent ruin]

i think bis is alleria and chimmy trinket
but everything else is pretty close?

[main timber]

Sunstone is kind of interesting at least - even if bad overall

It has a place

[silent ruin]

i have lura on cause ilvl

[kind star]

I use it alot on my squishies or tank if I fucked up actually kinda heals for a decent amount.

[proven phoenix]

@main timber im going to make a lura video as well

it will be a bit more involved than the vorasius one

[main timber]

Sounds great

[balmy spire]

nerf feels like more then 7% 😄

[main timber]

It isn't

[haughty ibex]

67

[exotic magnet]

7% sounds pretty spot on to me - 20% off something that was doing 20% of my healing, and a 3% flat nerf

[proven phoenix]

67

[pure zinc]

i jsut dont understand how to use the new changes to the apex talents. went from bursting to almost 400k hps to barely topping 200k

clearly its a me issue

[hollow wagon]

Ia this correct guys ok so aim is, WG before dmg, rejuv to 12 - spam regrowth till 6ish then rinse and repeat, throwing convoke and tranq close to on CD? and SM on CD

[plain marsh]

Phased for orange

[whole horizon]

yeah having a cooldown's worth of healing available every ~12 seconds is a balance issue. everbloom is really good but we didn't exactly need it. our basic kit is really good and really flexible.

[proven phoenix]

im involved with too many bad faith actors

[pure zinc]

IS that what it is? i mean its like number 4 or 5 on my healing done meters.

And its not going into overhealing

[main timber]

If your Everbloom healing is low, you can post a log and we can probably tell you why

[plain marsh]

Renounce your association with pvpers

[main timber]

It isn't "free" healing. You need to play into it a little bit

[pure zinc]

preapre for incoming

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/MXxLDvbHQfCthJY9?fight=last&type=healing

[whole horizon]

i just meant the nerf is justified but it shouldn't break your hps.

if you're struggling without it then you've been using it as a crutch.

[pure zinc]

my character sheet for reference, if needed.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/stormrage/zenoaks

[pure zinc]

this tbh

[main timber]

Have you checked out the wowhead / IV guides? There are some confusing bits and pieces in here. You are using a bad weapon enchant, a bad weapon oil, embellishments are wrong, Lifebloom is on the wrong target, build is wrong, gems are wrong

[gentle nova]

Read a guide

[main timber]

You are also bouncing lifebloom around a lot which isn't necessary and means your stack count is low

There are like 10 lifebloom movements here

[pure zinc]

so i did absolutely check out some of the changes to the wowhead guide. i didnt think that much changed. i didnt think all the much changed.

[main timber]

You are also refreshing it 3x as much as you should need to

[main timber]

Most of the stuff I just listed has been in since beginning of expansion

The flat healing oil / weapon enchant have never been recommended for example because they are terrible

[rotund geode]

my hot tracker keeps resetting position for various reasons, anyone has any idea of why

[pure zinc]

ive been having an issue with lofebloom not refreshing when i cast it on a target or not refreshing for the 8 seconds that SM extends for. its been a real mental issue for me.

[main timber]

The good news is you actually do have some instant fixes

[pure zinc]

ok i have a lot to work on though

thank you for all this

[main timber]

Like grabbing wowhead build. You will have more mana because you wont be casting sunfire anymore

Drop Regenesis, you are giving up one of the best talents in the tree for it

[carmine glen]

30 casts with only 84% uptime on lifebloom is gonna help a lot

[main timber]

Yeah your lifebloom is also barely ever stacked to 3 because you are moving it a lot

[pure zinc]

it falls off a lot because it wont refresh

i submitted a bug report

[main timber]

You have the wrong talent

[pure zinc]

the apex talents are bugging it out

[sudden rover]

67 67

[kind star]

nooo please no 67 in here 🙁

[pure zinc]

ok so go to wow head take guide keep a better eye on lifebloom. whats the work around for it not refreshing correctly>

[silk ice]

67 is already in the latest pin

[gentle nova]

Wdym not refreshing

[silent ruin]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/ZcjdBRvC98fxNJFq?fight=17&type=healing&source=2

is this fine ?
i feel like could do better
don't think my lifebloom is 100% uptime

[kind star]

had to actually check 😂

[main timber]

Might need to see a clip of that since I've not heard of anyone else having that issue

[carmine glen]

Maybe its a UI issue because I dont think its possible for something to bug out for 1 player across multiple reloads

[pure zinc]

well h/o i want to say thank you @main timber and everyone else for helping me ehre im going to do all this stuff immediately

ty.

[main timber]

You are going to smash it with these improvements

[silk ice]

Brocc probably rounded favorably to get 67 into the pinned comment

[main timber]

You're already not doing terrible healing for your guild so this will supercharge you

[worn bridge]

Yo guys, i have a question about raid healing.
Are we swiftmending our lifebloom target? or just a random other target

[carmine glen]

Remember that consuming swiftmend procs your everbloom, take full advantage of that

[sudden rover]

@main timber raid talents on wowhead are up to date with the nerf? I'm raiding in 20 minutes

[main timber]

Ya

[sudden rover]

ty

[pure zinc]

second the lifebloom issue im having is repeatable. sm is not refreshing it for 8 seconds only 3-4 and sometimes i cast lifebloom to extend it and it just doesnt... like it does nothing. repeatable self cast in silvermoon

[main timber]

A little video of that would help a lot

[carmine glen]

there have been pretty strange bugs

[kind star]

that sound weird have you tried unspeccing VI and respeccing VI?

[pure zinc]

i can stream the bug of the SM but the lifebloom resfresh is sparatic and i cant garuntee it

[gentle nova]

Cuz youre playing prosperity,

[pure zinc]

idk how to do vid clips

[main timber]

Remember that you dont have the swiftmend extender talent right now

[gentle nova]

Play verdant

[pure zinc]

im not usually no. i tried it out that one night to see if i could get more sm casts

[kind star]

oh prosp lul

[pure zinc]

no its not because of that talent

[silk ice]

Does prosperity extend it by 3-4 seconds?

[pure zinc]

this happens inside VI talent

[mystic crater]

Yeah I haven’t ever seen anyone report this as well

[carmine glen]

wait is he playing prosp

[pure zinc]

im sorry yall i have Verdant infusion not prosparity

[carmine glen]

and expecting it to play like VI

[main timber]

No he just swapped talent for this one log

[carmine glen]

Ah

[silk ice]

Are you looking at the buff timer or the CDM tracker

[pure zinc]

the bug can be seen in the buff bar, the cdm tracker and inside healing frames

[carmine glen]

I thought he meant the linked log showed it not extending

mb

[silk ice]

By buff timer I mean your buff icon

With all your other buffs

[pure zinc]

i mean when i look at the timer of lifebloom i watch it tick and hit SM and it goes up by 3-4 seconds instead of 8

i slowly removed talents gear and othe things and narrowed it down to the apex talents

im happy to jump in comms and stream

maybe its something im doing wrong somehow

Does SM only extend timer by 4 seconds in pvp?

m,aybe im hitting people pvping the dummy?

[main timber]

Try in a follower dungeon

[gentle nova]

Yes

XD

[pure zinc]

wait for real?

[gentle nova]

Yes

[pure zinc]

i suck at druid

[harsh quail]

pvp was already the answer to another problem an hour ago..how can it be again the same answer

[pure zinc]

im going backt o resto sham

[gentle nova]

If you are in warmode and flagged your spells are modded with pvp mods

[pure zinc]

unf im not in warmode

but clearly im doing something wrong. so im going to stick my head in a hole

[gentle nova]

Pvp dummies will flag u too

[pure zinc]

its still happening outside of the dummies area

[gentle nova]

Try in a dungeon

[mystic crater]

I mean it happens, if you want to confirm, just take it to a follower dungeon

[pure zinc]

ok i will

[crude drift]

I did half a delve with a friend where I couldnt heal them because they were pvp flagged still xd

[pure zinc]

its not happening inside of follower

So i just wasted dev time with a useless report great.

thank yall. still ty for the talent and gear fixes

aswell as all the play fixes

[mystic crater]

Don’t worry, they probably didn’t read it anyway

[main timber]

They get 1000 useless reports and 500 useful reports a day and don't do much with either so don't worry about it

[whole horizon]

you're assuming an actual person reads them in the first place

[silk ice]

Bold of you to assume they read them

[harsh quail]

so you actually never had this happen actively in a dungeon and always only in silvermoon?

[whole horizon]

love the unity in here

[mystic crater]

It was pretty funny

[pure zinc]

ive been feeling frustration with lifebloom uptime and went to the dummies like i usually do to diagnos the problem rather than wasting a groups time in M+

no one likes a wiped 15 cause the healer is struggleing with lifebloom

[silent ruin]

my lifebloom sometimes times out when i gotta pump lots of heals and forgot about it

[whole horizon]

i defaulted to testing in follower dungeons since the addon changes, it's really convenient

[harsh quail]

in 15s people barely know their own buttons, they are not gonna check on something like that for other people

[pure zinc]

i too will make this change

[haughty ibex]

doubt they even know what lifebloom is

[whole horizon]

some things just can't be tested unless you're inside of an instance

[pure zinc]

i was trying to convey that my testing shit in a 15 is not condusive to 15 play

[hazy spoke]

In raid, are grove guardians worth it if we’re just casting swiftmend on ourselves?

If I dropped it, I could also drop improved swiftmend for Unstoppable Growth, or the 2 iron bark talents

[whole horizon]

grove guardians effectiveness isn't related to your SM target in any way, is it?

[haughty ibex]

ye but y need a log or a vod or smth cuz don’t think anyone else has experienced the same thing

[silent ruin]

i just wing it

[kind star]

I wonder how GG actually works

[silent ruin]

and try my theory

[kind star]

says on target or a nearby ally

[silent ruin]

if i wipe i wipe

[whole horizon]

you don't have to wonder

[harsh quail]

not trying to be rude, but isnt a 15 a bit of a jump for you anyway with only 2 14s up to now anyway?

[silent ruin]

doesn't it heal nearby allies if u're full hp

[kind star]

thats what im wondering

jsut curious

[pure zinc]

might be outdated. but no. 15s are a bit of a breeze. nearly timed several but people dying to one shots caused the loss of key.

[idle lake]

had a couple deaths in here can someone explain why https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/KgMP69JbZLvdGYxf?fight=last&type=healing&source=5

[whole horizon]

right, it summons a treant that does healing

[still topaz]

In raid as a rule of thumb,

Do you lifebloom yourself?

Is it okay to move to high dmg ppl? Even though it is resetting the stack?

[harsh quail]

I'm obviously talking about timed keys

[hazy spoke]

It does healing to me. Unless I Wild Growth

[glossy holly]

i believe u typically LB urself in raid

[hazy spoke]

I’m already always overhealing myself. Idk if the WG portion of grove guardians makes it worth it though

[whole horizon]

GGs healing is pretty evenly distributed to people who need healing

since you're pressing WG and SM when your party is taking damage, it does pretty low overhealing

[silent ruin]

Gotta actually tryhard for the heal so u can pull more

i wonder how people manage mana
i keep going oom in m+

even with innervate

[harsh quail]

that has nothing to do with what I'm trying to convey

[mystic crater]

Tbh no need to really further that convo

Has no real gain

[whole horizon]

GG is like a 5-6% talent, and UG will never be more than 2-3%

[harsh quail]

yeah true

[mystic crater]

Regarding this I should say

[silent ruin]

does it not?
isn't optimizing heal so party can pull more since it's more damage?

[mystic crater]

It doesn’t

And don’t worry about it

As in he was saying something different

[silent ruin]

also i'm not ragebaiting
i'm just too new to understand the nuance

ok

[rustic copper]

Gg is never 5% what

[whole horizon]

i mixed my context, its higher in keys

still higher than UG in raid

[haughty ibex]

if ppl feel confident is totally normal to skip some keylvls

[mystic crater]

Alice it’s okay - that topic wasn’t worth following up on

[haughty ibex]

Sorry kitten…

[mystic crater]

Nah you’re good

[silent ruin]

i think i skipped some 13

cause people took me to 14

but getting 15 without 14 is hard

also i was doing it without set till last week cause no one told me about it

[haughty ibex]

what makes it harder than 12 to 14 jump

[grand herald]

I skipped from 13 to 15s haha

[kind star]

Im slowly moving up to learn the dungeons got all 10s now

[mystic crater]

Letsgooo

[silent ruin]

idk, i think most groups i applied to on 15 didn't take me most of the time until i had full 14

maybe it's just a luck thing

[haughty ibex]

well yeah that makes sense

but it u play ur own key

[silent ruin]

i should start doing my own key

carry me pls alice thx

[gentle nova]

Bro

Its at most 3

IF

[mystic crater]

People always want to have their own best chance of doing something, it’s why incredibly low ilvl people host most raid groups rofl

[gentle nova]

Most logs it barely breaks 2.5

And yes the sm on ourselves affects the gg targeting

Because they prio targets with the most hots first

[silent ruin]

i think i'm just not confident enough to host cause i'm too new to filter and pick people
like i don't even remember what lust classes are

[gentle nova]

Their nourish scales with our mastery so they are “smart” like that

Nourish has a 300% mastery scaling

[kind star]

I just hate hosting my key because I always get asked when to lust and I dont even know myself rofl

[gentle nova]

So yeah in raid most of gg healing is on you

[haughty ibex]

that’s fair i also don’t like making grps cuz im lazy, but i have higher success rate playing my own key and not applying 💯

[idle lake]

how do u get over the tank drought

[gentle nova]

Play guardian

Resto is trash

[idle lake]

resto worst healer

[haughty ibex]

Legit so many apply

maybe na is worse

[idle lake]

is 14 too low

[kind star]

I force my friend to play brew that's how I fix it

[idle lake]

?

im a europe titan

[haughty ibex]

yes u are low

[haughty ibex]

ill find u 😈

[idle lake]

welcome to L9XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[haughty ibex]

BDHSHAH

[gentle nova]

If you get behind the m+ push curve its over for you

[silent ruin]

i'm an european in na

[gentle nova]

Youll sit in lfg for 3 years and find monstrosities there

[idle lake]

noooooo...

[silent ruin]

what do

[haughty ibex]

did they take u against ur will

[silent ruin]

well asian in europe playing in na

[haughty ibex]

its a safe space here

[silent ruin]

my fren that invited me play na

[haughty ibex]

what ping u get?

[silent ruin]

150 ish?

playable

[idle lake]

even if u find me u cant join

[haughty ibex]

that’s not so horrible

[silent ruin]

used to play lost ark with that ping lil

[idle lake]

only enough room for 1 resto druid in this town

[haughty ibex]

they would kick u for me

[idle lake]

its my group.

[haughty ibex]

ur lucky i am poor with no pc

they would leave and follow me.

[idle lake]

what if im paying them

[haughty ibex]

they would offer me their key.

[idle lake]

where is ur pc

what the hell

[haughty ibex]

they would pay me to save them from u

[idle lake]

dude ?

my logs are not THAT bad

[haughty ibex]

sorry too far

i take it back

hope u time ur key….

[silent ruin]

mc is chill

[idle lake]

thank you ever so kindly

[silent ruin]

[idle lake]

i hope so too

ive almost got resilient 14s

slow incremental gains

[proven phoenix]

slow and steady mate

all good

[haughty ibex]

one baby step at the time

[proven phoenix]

dont be mean....

[idle lake]

they are not baby steps i am alpha. they are mighty steps.

[haughty ibex]

ye ok ur depleting

[proven phoenix]

im also the alpha

[silk ice]

You’ve nailed your phased impression

[proven phoenix]

well I actually am the alpha

[silk ice]

Yes

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-small-pet-silly-alone-lonely-gif-4734322154604199486

[tough portal]

You kill yet?

[proven phoenix]

yeah we did yesterday

[silk ice]

Can’t wait for more phased content

[proven phoenix]

yeah I'll make a midnight falls video soon

[silk ice]

Ping me when it’s done

[idle lake]

go to hell

sorry that was mean

[haughty ibex]

HSHSHAHA WHAT EVEN HAPPENEDDD

[idle lake]

warrior got the barage

[silent ruin]

so many shit

[idle lake]

and just

lept out

and ran in circles

got poison on everyone and outranged me so i couldnt dispel

[silent ruin]

gratz

[haughty ibex]

hshdhsah

[silent ruin]

the bird shooting arrow
people don't spread out
i fcking hate it

[haughty ibex]

but he’s a mossad agent

[topaz nest]

i fear you are unlikely to run into human beings below a +16 nowadays

too much gear

[idle lake]

yeah

sadly

now i have to do it on 13

its over

the hunter also ran into frozen traps

twice

[haughty ibex]

time to apply to lfg

[silent ruin]

are u saying i should tryhard +15 resil and get human again?

[idle lake]

no. my key is not cursed. it will be okay.

[silent ruin]

[kind star]

starting to play at this stage of the game pugging was tough at first xd

[idle lake]

switch to balance and join my key

on mobile

one button rotation will do better than half the people in this key

[haughty ibex]

can’t wait for wow mobile /srs

[idle lake]

i dont think wow mobile is coming

i hope it isnt

maybe classic

[proven phoenix]

I can definitely wait for wow mobile

[thorn plover]

I check my vault from my phone already

[haughty ibex]

how

pls explain i need to do it

i legit am having wow withdrawals i need to be studied

[kind star]

remote desktop

I just dont like having my pc on all day

[haughty ibex]

ye but my pc is off….

[kind star]

only 30min for me before I can get my wow dose

[grave quail]

Does an ns regrowth that consumes sotf buff all three regrowth or only one

[thorn plover]

Vectras

Windows virtual box for android

[kind star]

oh wat and you can run midnight o.o

[thorn plover]

Good enough to check vault

[kind star]

oooh interesting! ill have to check that out

[thorn plover]

And play the auction house

[haughty ibex]

is it like chrome desktop? or like u can legit run wow on ur phone

[thorn plover]

Nothing to do with my PC, wow is installed on a virtual Windows PC on my phone

[rustic copper]

Only the target gets the NS but it’s still good

[kind star]

surely my s24+ can do that easily

[rustic copper]

Because NS multiplies sotf

[silent ruin]

remote desktop

[tough portal]

Only main target gets NS buff

SOTF does apply to all 3, ofc, POTA is a SOTF upgrade

[snow umbra]

On Bel'oren how are we handling heal absorbs?

[rustic copper]

Regrowth each one once until they’re healed

[snow umbra]

Thats what I'm doing, but I'm getting rinsed by our Evoker

[spark river]

How lmao

[snow umbra]

https://raidplan.io/review/share/6h2bWQVMOwI04LFi?time=28

[rotund geode]

anyone else had the problem with hottracker icon resetting all the time, im locking it in a position and it comes back

[rustic copper]

Well it doesn’t really matter that much

You’re not cding it probably

[thorn plover]

There's about 12 people that I know of with the issue. I've spent some time on it but could look at it again.
What UI scale are you running and are you on an ultra wide

[vast rapids]

the nerfs hit hard on heal checks in M+ urgh. Lura on 19-20 is even more of a struggle

[opaque ivy]

Which addon are you using for the convoke ramp and abundance tracker? 🙂

[snow umbra]

What would you suggest?

[snow umbra]

Abundance Tracker is ArcUI bar. Convoke ramp is NSRT w/ Timeline Reminders

[rotund geode]

im on regular 2k screen, i didnt have the problem until i reset completely my ui, i was using arcui and uuf, then migrated on ellemesure, i deleted WTF prior to do that, spent quite some time with new changes, and it does that on both my druid and my monk now

[thorn plover]

What's your UI scale set to in settings

[opaque ivy]

Looks cool, gonna have to check that out

[thorn plover]

Ok thanks. I'll look into it again. Does it happen no matter where you place it, or are there locations where it works fine.
It seems like it's interfering with some other UI element

I've never been able to reproduce it on my end, so it's insanely hard to troubleshoot

[rotund geode]

i tried already to disable snap to element in edit mode (you never know), but now it seems to reset sporadically when i change zone or reload

if u want me to try things to troubleshoot it tell me

[rapid dagger]

question - i have the omission of light ring already . and band of triumvirate. (both mythic) a mythic and crafted weapon. i am wondering where my next place to use my extra roll. was thinking maybe aa for wrists or some where for boots i have heroic of both. what would your suggestions be

[glossy holly]

coee trinket is surprisingly competent trinket among options huh

[hallow shell]

hello guys, random question but why isn't sunfire not take in m+ ?

[woven mango]

Any tips for M alleria healing?

[thorn plover]

Costs lots of mana, does no damage

[thorn plover]

I only started prog this week, but if heal absorb person also gets obelisk, dispel them
You can travel form (or any shift) during intermission and not worry about getting hit by arrows. Just don't get hit by 2 in a row

Fight does not seem hard to heal
I did switch to 2m convoke and it feels super good

I seem to get healing aggro on the little blobs a lot, not sure if that's normal, but make sure you take them to the mini boss

That's all my tips for now 😂

[jovial tartan]

hi, do you mind sharing your arcui profile?

[haughty ibex]

we can’t rly picture ur gear and the whole itempool available so best thing would be to sim it:D

[woven mango]

you the goat king

[idle lake]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/KgMP69JbZLvdGYxf?fight=last&type=healing

can someone help me out

what happened here

[thorn plover]

People died. Hope that helps

[idle lake]

i had no idea

that doesnt help though

why did we wipe the first time

[thorn plover]

Lol

[idle lake]

did the tank just pull too much

we failed the timer bc the hunter reset the boss

[snow umbra]

Sure. I'm just raiding currently. Do you need it urgently?

[haughty ibex]

i mean idk I forgot route but don’t u usually pull 2x side explosion mobs and after u pull the glaive mob?

[idle lake]

we wiped on 2nd to last pul

with the consuming shadows

glaive pulls went perfect

i lied

2 ppl died

[haughty ibex]

me when ilie

[idle lake]

sorry im addicted to lying

[haughty ibex]

ye ok cba looking if u had bark up for priest and shit

u prob did get good

[whole horizon]

your monk just didnt have anything the first time he died

[tough portal]

Hard to say that but like you should have Lifebloom on the tank in the Devouring Tyrant pulls that only do damage to the tank

[whole horizon]

full stagger bar, no defensive

[idle lake]

[haughty ibex]

did u wipe 2x on the same pack

[idle lake]

ye

thats what nuked the timer

but thats bc mobs didnt reset

the first time he died was my big issue with the key

[serene knot]

I'm a little late on the conversation, but I have this same issue with hottracker constantly resetting it's position I'm on a standard monitor, not wide.

One thing in particular I've noticed is that it seems to reset it's Y axis, not it's X axis.

[tough portal]

Perma self LB is only a thing in raid because damage is very even and LB in 1 out of 20 people is less impactful

[whole horizon]

he purified twice right before he died but was still taking 200k ticks of dmg, and he pressed his DR like 1 second before he died

[silent ruin]

eh why is everbloom on the priest?

[tough portal]

In M+ you have to have some idea of what is happening mechanically in each pull and make a better decision

[thorn plover]

good to know, thanks. i will try and work on that again this week

[tough portal]

Bestie everbloom heals the whole party yes?

Let's keep it straight

[serene knot]

Even with the position issue, it's still a great little addon, thanks for looking at it.

[idle lake]

i wasnt sure lfebloom made a big difference to healing

so i just kept it on myself

[haughty ibex]

I’d keep on tank on majority of the trash tbh

i lied mt has scary pulls

[idle lake]

thats what i was doing previously

its only since .5 i switched

[silent ruin]

oh wait
the symbol looks like the shit u press once and it lasts an hour

fck

mb

[idle lake]

symbiotic relationship

[silent ruin]

the symbol looks the same sorry sir

[haughty ibex]

also u gotta press ibmore u even running rh

💯 press on cd almost legit

[silent ruin]

what's ib?

ironbark?

[idle lake]

yes

[silent ruin]

Do u guys not save it for big damage?

Well like to at least reduce a big damage

like in seat i like to save it for someone who get double targetted by the explosion

[haughty ibex]

yeah but rather have a useless ib then not press for 10 minutes

that’s how u learn imo

[silent ruin]

I think my ib is mostly planned now

[idle lake]

alice = ironbark merchant

[haughty ibex]

that’s a bit diff, u have stuff planned

[glossy holly]

i tend to reserve it for tanks

[haughty ibex]

he press 4x in like 25 mins i think

[haughty ibex]

stop playing rh then noob

or bind ib

[idle lake]

dont call me noob

[haughty ibex]

ibs 😻

[idle lake]

whats ibs (cis but bi curious)

[haughty ibex]

yea that’s what it means gj

[idle lake]

wow.

[main timber]

Cease

[idle lake]

?

[whole horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-23910228

[idle lake]

sorry

[tough portal]

https://tenor.com/view/doesn't-get-it-gif-11969878697861392921

[proven phoenix]

please be normal chat

[idle lake]

i saw a tweet

[silent ruin]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Wz8Jp4qRt9TP23dA?fight=9&type=summary&source=2
this was my 15 seat

i rarely use it for tank

tank should be able to handle themself with lifebloom heal up and fully stacked rejuv wg and the occasional rg is my logic

unless they're doing a hard pull maybe otherwise not really

[formal fjord]

no worries im glad u got the help you needed! morning 🙂

[grave quail]

what's the best way to handle gust on 1st boss skyreach? any positioning tricks?

[silent ruin]

u also only used 6x barkskin

and 6x ns maybe

[jovial tartan]

nope, take your time ^^

[pure seal]

is there any way to tell if I get spatial paradox? like a way to track the buff?

[tough portal]

No I dont think so

[silent ruin]

Oh if anyone wanna give any feedback on what i did well and what i could improve on
You're welcome to, always appreciate any feedback and criticism

[inland terrace]

Anyone know if there is a way to sim different talent builds? I'm trying to figure out how much healing I would lose running the KoTG DoC build vs normal WS in keys.

[main timber]

Nah, modelling entire dungeons like that wouldn't be very representative

[inland terrace]

Yea. I heard Droki mention it's around a 10% healing loss. Must have gotten that just from comparing logs. But I think I also remember him saying that he made those numbers up lol

[main timber]

We provided a similar number yeah

But DoC got bugfix nerfed since then

[inland terrace]

Oh did it. I just hate how it's "dumb" healing. But it's fun to actually do damage in keys.

[haughty ibex]

but doesn’t eb nerf affects ws a little more?

not saying that build is good anyways

[main timber]

Than the Starfire fix? Nah

I don't even know if people are still playing much DoC honestly

[haughty ibex]

are they 🤨

[thorn plover]

jb said its ded, so im guessing not many

not even dorki is playing it

[tough portal]

I wouldnt say so, similar number of KOTG's benefits are in healing amp %s than for WS

[half owl]

How bad is it if I just lifebloom myself all the time in M+ like raids lol. Mainly used my Druid for raids and the habit is hard to break

[grand herald]

its not the worst thing ever

[limpid cairn]

are we doing lifebloom in raid always on ourself for the 16 % buff? I seem not to heal anything with everbloom, i mostly have it on the tanks

[tough portal]

It's not good play, may or may not be relevant if you're healing content you struggle with or not

Lot of M+ situations benefit from putting LB on the target actually taking meaningful damage

[grand herald]

yeah lb on self is good

in raid

[upbeat forum]

Hey guys, I was pushing M+ 12s just fine until the nerf. Now I keep failing keys. Is this a ‘me’ issue, that I can overcome, or should I swap to another character and wait until a new optimized resto build is figured out?

[silent ruin]

share logs pls

[grand herald]

probably a you issue

[main timber]

You can overcome it, it's 100% you

You can do 12s with no talent points at all. A new build will never fix you, only better play

[upbeat forum]

What app do yall like for logs?

[limpid cairn]

my everbloom is only doing 5 mil healing am i cooked

[tough portal]

5 million in 20 seconds?

Or in 35 minutes?

[limpid cairn]

no in 6 minutes

on paladins

[grand herald]

mythic?

[limpid cairn]

y

[half owl]

Yea that’s what I was assuming. I’ll work on breaking the habit

[grand herald]

then yeah thats pretty low i think

[limpid cairn]

the general conclusion is 1) LB on me 2) and refreshing below 3.5 seconds no? did something change in 2 weeks

[grand herald]

you dont want to be refreshing it much at all

you should be extending it with sm

you want all hots on yourself, and cast SM on yourself on cd

[cunning needle]

Is consensus meta is no longer rdruid

I just want to make sure since I invested quite a bit of time playing this class to be competitive since they nerfed disc 9 times

[grand herald]

if you have to ask if its meta

then whatever content you are doing, its meta enough

[limpid cairn]

ah so i constantly extend the hot? but do u wanna extend it unter 3.5 seconds to get the drop off heal or is that not neccesary?

[cunning needle]

Nah nah don’t give me that. I’m not a random

[tough portal]

[cunning needle]

Just asking if it’s still rdruid or now shaman after the changes

[grand herald]

if you have to ask

[tough portal]

It's hpala

[cunning needle]

Lmao brother

Jfc

[grand herald]

you just cast SM on cd

and if LB is gonna drop, you refresh

[main timber]

I don't think there is a consensus yet

[cunning needle]

Thank you Voulk

I appreciate the respectful reply and not whatever the hell that was from the other guy

[tough portal]

Rdru is not competitive anymore, hpala is consensus

[cunning needle]

I kind of felt like it was up in the air, good to see there is still ongoing discussion

Gl all

[exotic zephyr]

If I’ve only killed saldahar and chim on heroic, can my vault only be from those 2 bosses or also the 2 void bosses before sald?

[hardy canopy]

rdruid is the only healer with 22 resil rn

and i saw mw getting heal checked so

[ember pond]

we arent all liek that jade

sorry brother

[cunning needle]

Tracking. It’s more of a comp thing with buffs after gdruid ostensibly taking up motw

[main timber]

Definitely the first boss, Vorasius I'm not sure since that's a choice boss

[cunning needle]

Preciate you friend

[hardy canopy]

it's more deep

druid is still the highest throughput in theory

[cunning needle]

Tell me more. I’m still learning rdudu

[main timber]

Resto Shaman deserves something nice, maybe it should be a Shaman meta

[exotic zephyr]

Ah ok, I’ve killed both of them this patch so I should probably go ahead and get 2 vault slots if my vault isn’t just limited to those 2

[hardy canopy]

i agree

[exotic zephyr]

Ty

[tough portal]

The resto druid downtrend has very little to do with resto druid nerfs too

Just guardian is trending up very hard rn

[haughty ibex]

ye isn’t it mainly due guardian being insanely broken?

[hardy canopy]

people are just overreacting the nerfs

[haughty ibex]

inshallah we pray for its downfall

[tough portal]

Nah

[cunning needle]

That’s what I was thinking. The numbers are still very good it seemed

[tough portal]

We want guardian meta

[haughty ibex]

no we don’t

[cunning needle]

Was more just not having the spot

[tough portal]

Rdru meta is the worst time to be alive

[plain marsh]

True

[tough portal]

Maybe if rdru isn't meta in M+ we can get something nice for pvp next season

[main timber]

PVP

[tough portal]

I tank you heal keys?

[haughty ibex]

run ur own key and u will have the spot, is like 2 days in too so

[hardy canopy]

rsham is meta cus it's still behind in raid performance and it's gonna get more buffs

[tough portal]

Healers when confronted with a game mode that stresses their healing performance

[hardy canopy]

if u want to know what healer is good in keys just look at what is bad in raid

[tough portal]

[main timber]

Druid was best in both just a week ago!

[tough portal]

Yall just jealous pvp gets the nice design stuff like big Ancient Incarn form

[plain marsh]

they took that away…

[tough portal]

Shut up piggy

[plain marsh]

it lasted half an expac…

[tough portal]

You arent helping me

[hardy canopy]

https://giphy.com/gifs/radar-VuehuL4fMHLgs

[inland terrace]

For a whole week 🙁

[dapper minnow]

surest way to get nerfed in mythic+ is to be good in raid.

[main timber]

Definitely safer to be tragically bad somewhere

[hard loom]

Eh ive started gearing a mistweaver, cant believe how easy it was

[ember pond]

do we use convoke in M+?

[hard loom]

Was comfortably healing 10s at 240 ilvl rofl

[wicked spade]

Been bumbling my way through my first dungeons have having a great time as a healer

[haughty ibex]

yes 😊

[main timber]

Alright but 10s at 240 doesn't sound particularly undergeared

[silk ice]

I’m jealous of early spring

[hard loom]

Druid is literally only missing a mythic necklace now and its full bis =/ still so early in the season

[main timber]

Early Spring is great but I don't think I'd want it in PVE

[ember pond]

except its bugged =/

[silk ice]

Why not?

[grand herald]

bugged?

[tough portal]

Well

[ember pond]

yeah it removed lifebloom when it procs

[tough portal]

The Early Spring LB is a different spell id and it has some goofy interactions or lack thereof

[hard loom]

I mean 10s are almost harder than 15s atm because people are on SBA with kick not on their bars watching guardian druid guides on how to press moonfire

[tough portal]

I would imagine most of these are intentionally missing tho

[hard loom]

Healing as an alt anyway 🤣

[tough portal]

If everbloom procd from every early spring LB it would be ridiculous

[silk ice]

Pve gets attention unlike PvP tho, more likely to be addressed

[ember pond]

yeah woudl eb busted in bgs

but it doesnt serve a purpose in arena except to remove my 3x lifebloom

since it does proc off pets from hunter locks and DKs

[tough portal]

Hm no I definitely like to keep it, you could cancelaura teh buff tho

[ember pond]

sorry i meant to aoe lifebloom proc thing

instant cast wg is goated

[tough portal]

Yeah I'm saying

You can cancel aura the proc to make WG apply LBs

But I like it a lot

[ember pond]

ooo i see what you mean

[cunning atlas]

was wondering why my +12 was taking so long...

[tough portal]

It heals a good chunk when you go in for CC and can LB yourself and the rest of the team

[ember pond]

i wish there was an easy way for me to test it

mayeb i woudl iek it if i understood how to use it in the kit better. as of right now its rng just happens randomly

[tough portal]

I wish it just tracked on raid frames

@main timber can you ask for that

Add the Early Spring LB id to unsecreted hots

[narrow jacinth]

Hello, any reason why this talent is not played at all? is it because it doesnt boost all sources of rejuv?

[main timber]

Sure

[grand herald]

it requires people to be low, it costs 2 talent points, its not useful for routing

[inland terrace]

What's you guys experience with running a cat weave vs caster build in keys? Nothing too high, 14s/15s. Does it not really matter because we aren't doing much dps regardless? I'm trying to find ways to contribute more to keys, but I'm just not doing much DPS.

[grand herald]

depends on if you care about st/prio damage or aoe pad damage

[inland terrace]

AOE/Pad ofc

[grand herald]

then go boomie

[inland terrace]

Yea, that's what I'm thinking. Less risky too

[grand herald]

id say its more risky

[inland terrace]

Oh really?

[grand herald]

standing still casting is much more risky than being in melee (which you want to be anyways)

[rustic copper]

Most of your healing is done to people who are already healthy, press more regrowth

[haughty ibex]

ye i mean casting for 2 seconds is more risky than going in and out of cat

idk maybe is jst skill issue by me

[inland terrace]

Yea that's true. These 2s starfire casts do have me greeding a lot

That's why I wanted to go DoC but it looks like not many people are playing it anymore.

[grand herald]

DoC is a meme

[ember pond]

instant cast regrowths and starfires tho...

[inland terrace]

You get less of them now after the bug fixes, I learned.

[grand herald]

i mean, thats keeper, not DoC

[ember pond]

yeah i meant in reference to alices point

[idle lake]

can regenerative heartwood be specced out of

even with optimal ironbark usage

[inland terrace]

In keys or raid?

[idle lake]

keys

[haughty ibex]

ye if u feel like ib it’s enough

[grand herald]

what are ya gonna replace it with

[inland terrace]

Oh I don't run it in keys, personally.

[haughty ibex]

imp sm

[idle lake]

idk

[haughty ibex]

he’s not running it i think

[inland terrace]

I'm running harmonius blooming

[idle lake]

i am running it

atm

[haughty ibex]

instead of rh or?

[idle lake]

no im running rh

im lost

just looking at what talents r low impact

so i can fuck around a little

[grand herald]

RH is a pretty potent single target heal/wall

[haughty ibex]

show ur talents im confused

[haughty ibex]

ye but is it worth in 15s when u could run improved sm? i feel like is just easier to get value out of

[grand herald]

just press ironbark

get value

ez

[haughty ibex]

ye but what

[idle lake]

[tough portal]

Imp swm does not much of anything for VI users that disregard Swiftmend's direct heal

[haughty ibex]

u can also just press rg on the guy

he also just refuses to press ib

[idle lake]

i dont refuse i forget

[haughty ibex]

ok fair point

[haughty ibex]

ur forgiven

[tough portal]

I'm a big fan of imp swiftmend but I play prosp and Swiftmend does a notably bigger chunk of my meter

[idle lake]

i was running prosperity previously

i cant decide which i likemore

[haughty ibex]

ye i used to 2 and is def bigger value if u run prosperity

i just feel like rh is okay but idk pressing ib on someone is usually enough

[jovial solstice]

so what's the goto M+ build now? I messed around with Keeper of the Grove and it seems kinda nice actually?

[grand herald]

still WS

[jovial solstice]

ah ok. i'm not doing very hard content yet (11/12), maybe matters less

[grand herald]

sure yeah

[oak garnet]

In m+ you send swiftmends on the tank a lot to extend his maintenance rejuvs whether or not he has lifebloom on him. I swap lifebloom to whoever needs it. I almost always swiftmend the tank (or aug or mage if there's no tank damage and squish dps has 3 hots)

Imp sm fan

[jovial solstice]

is it recommended to shift into moonkin form to do damage? still doing cat stuff...

[grand herald]

moonkin form? no

but you do cast starfire if you care about doing aoe damage over ST

[jovial solstice]

and dot everything up?

[grand herald]

nah

[jovial solstice]

feels bad to waste that many globals

[tough portal]

What is a waste mate

Dont waste them then

[jovial solstice]

ah I just mean, sometimes you fall behind healing wise for some minimal damage if you're moonfiring everything. but yeah

[grand herald]

well yeah, you dont moonfire everything

or sunfire

[glossy holly]

moonfire is restricted to boss or primary target only

[tough portal]

That has nothing to do with the damage rotation priority you're following tho, just awareness of your healing and the incoming damage. Treating it like these separate windows of time where if you press 1 damage spell you have to press at least 5 more is just bad for you and pointless

[cerulean stratus]

should i just go 2x arcanoweave on lura, if the hunt embelish procs mostly vers

feel like id be better off getting staff from xenax and an offpiece for 2x arcanoweave

[main timber]

It you target allies you will always get Mast

[cerulean stratus]

does it work based on targeting only?

some other ppl told me its based on encounter, others told me its based on damage

[main timber]

When I last tested it was based on target only

Which means for DPS it is based on encounter

[grand herald]

could dps use cast @ focus macros to game it :^)

[main timber]

Yes hypothetically

They could also have changed it, haven't re-tested in a bit

[rustic copper]

What the fuck

No one told me this

And I’m swapping off of hunt next reset

I could’ve been proccing mastery this whole time

[glossy holly]

[cerulean stratus]

i prob see if i can get the staff from xenax

[main timber]

I think Warlock pet is haste

[tough portal]

You have 6 bonus rolls so you can guarantee a weapon atp

[cerulean stratus]

hmm ye i got 6 items left in the pool after getting the ring

and 4 rolls left

[hearty coral]

Haste Buff → Elementals, Aberration, Demon
Verse Buff → Undead, Giant, Critter
Mastery Buff → Humanoid, Dragonkin
Crit Buff → Beasts, Mechanical

from what i could find on wowhead who knows if it is accurate or not

[rustic copper]

I’m ok with either now that 30% of my healing is done at 6 mastery stacks

[tough portal]

Your effective healing on yourself would be largely the same if you lose 2% mastery

[rustic copper]

Everbloom was 17% on my last log

[tough portal]

Sure

[rustic copper]

That’s all affected by my mastery right

[tough portal]

But that isnt 30%

[rustic copper]

The mastery stacks on the Lifebloom target I mean and it doesn’t double dip with stacks on people who get healed with everbloom ye?

[deft smelt]

Can anyone inform me on the rational for going wildstalker in raid now? Doesn't Grove + tree give better coverage and help with mana?

[thorn plover]

ws = big bloom = bigger apex healing

[rustic copper]

Grove + tree is definitely bad for mana because it forces you to use wg often for tree cdr and wg burns your mana

[urban bone]

Mythic trinkets and weapon first if you don’t have so you can blast them up to 295 next week

[hollow idol]

im useing crafted weapon rn

the weapon is somthing i should swap ?

[sweet needle]

Have to be mythic raid for mythic item

[urban bone]

If you can get a mythic one yes, it can go to a higher ilvl than crafted. I’d just target your biggest upgrades first, maximizing trinket/weapon chances probably

Nexus point is a good one, mythic dreamrift is really doable as long as you get into a pug with half a brain etc

You need to to +10 keys minimum tho for mythic item rerolls

[opaque ivy]

Anyone got a nice Danders profile they wanna share? Been looking around for something better than what I have, not really 100% happy with what I've found on wago

[urban bone]

There’s a decent one linked in resources under suggested ui imports

Can use it as a base and tweak how you want it

[vivid owl]

How come people are putting some talents into cat abilities, and also starfire for m+?

[gentle nova]

Ask them

[fleet jewel]

for the very meaningful aoe damage in some pulls

[iron belfry]

in light dmg pulls you can get away with starfire spam with call of the elder druid

[vivid owl]

Oh I just got linked it from a friend's 16 pug resto druid they got, but they were apparently doing no damage

[fervent mica]

lolno

[vivid owl]

But then I had a look on the rankings and lots are doing it, but I would have thought its more worth to go full moonkin or full cat spells

Not mix

[fervent mica]

cat is better prio. you can still do pretty good aoe on big packs with only starfire talented as far as caster stuff

[vivid owl]

Ahhh I switched to starfire build but I feel like that starfire stuff is just fake padding honestly, and annoying when you cast and have to move

Ill try it out i guess

Boss damage feels so bleh aswell

[buoyant mountain]

Is anyone available for a log review? I know I'm doing the things wrong

[grand herald]

post it here

[tough portal]

Yeah starfire is just lame

[buoyant mountain]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/dw1ZFHDfMW7JBxmc?fight=37&type=healing

From one of our better pulls

[grand herald]

you have 34% lifebloom uptime

[fervent mica]

https://questionablyepic.com/resto-druid/common-mistakes

all of that

[buoyant mountain]

Yea kinda new to druid. Is it better to put on tanks?

[fervent mica]

in raid, self

and with VI talented you always sm self

with lb/rej/rej on you

you have ~24% increased healing taken which buffs your apex healing

[grand herald]

yeah its definitely a read a guide angle

[formal fjord]

anyone said its mostly your lifebloom uptime thats the problem?

[buoyant mountain]

Yea I'm definitely slacking on lb

[fervent mica]

more regrowths

[grand herald]

more swiftmends

[fervent mica]

that was a 6 min fight with 13 swiftmends

thats a hit it every time its up button

you can macro lb and swiftmend in raid to target @player to not have to worry about targetting on them and focus on other things

[buoyant mountain]

I think I get flustered on abundance stacks too

Like 12 is optimal but what's the lowest I should be aiming for when doing rg?

[formal fjord]

people like padding in AOE but still having single target prio for bossess

[fervent mica]

that post i linked will help you a lot. just work on lb/sm

[buoyant mountain]

Thank you so much!

[grand herald]

12 isnt optimal, you just start casting RGs when you are at 12+ stacks

then you keep casting untill you are at like 6

[fervent mica]

even when you're spamming your regrowths you still want to hit sm on cd and use the sotf proc on rejuv

[sudden rover]

yo I did 150k hps on salhadaar and only parsed at 36 wtf, u guys are beasts. how the fuck some are at 250k

[fervent mica]

it'll make the abundance stacks last longer

[gentle nova]

Parses are broken

Top ones are +7% ahead of you baseline

[buoyant mountain]

ah i think i was using it on rg

[sudden rover]

ah

[rustic copper]

they didn't do a reset for the nerfs

but also it's mostly about underhealing at this point

[sudden rover]

ye but still some are 100k hps ahead of me it's craaazy

and I thought I played well lmao rip

[rustic copper]

top logs are skilled players for about a month after the first guild kills it

[gentle nova]

It also depends on your comp

[rustic copper]

and then it just becomes a meme

[gentle nova]

Do you have a hpriest, is you comp shit

Did your guild pop 2 balls at once or stall em

Etc

[sudden rover]

yeah we do

1 ball at a time

[buoyant mountain]

do you re-ramp to 12 to start doing rg again? or is that just bad mana managment?

[gentle nova]

150k with hpriest is trash

Gg

[grand herald]

yes its a cycle

[gentle nova]

Sowwwy

[rustic copper]

BIG parse

[sudden rover]

i mean hes doing 141k, is hpriest that bad? coz mine is pumping

[grand herald]

you are always bouncing between building up abundance, then RGs as it expires

[gentle nova]

Ppl really unaware what hpriest does huh

[iron belfry]

silly question but am i safe to redeem my chest token from chimaerus without it affecting future bonus rolls? going for trinket ofc

[sudden rover]

yea I cba tbh

[rustic copper]

yes

[gentle nova]

It stacks to 5

[iron belfry]

thanks

[gentle nova]

And has a 2
Min cd

[rustic copper]

we got too powerful too fast

I'm pretty sure I can comfortably 3 heal lura next week

[gentle nova]

So basically on a 8+ min fight you have 1 minute of 20% hps buff

[rustic copper]

shit game

[buoyant mountain]

Awesome, thank you so much for all of your help guys!

[bright swift]

p2 is very spooky 3 heal

[rustic copper]

I mean

we've done it

we have done every phase 3 heal on different pulls

[sudden rover]

my issue is I never cast enough regrowth in raid it's insane

[gentle nova]

Can u 3 heal paladins

[sudden rover]

i know im supposed to but I always block

[gentle nova]

Paladins hardest boss in this raid

Gg

[thorn plover]

Did you try pushing the button you have bound that when pressed makes regrowth cast

[rustic copper]

mmm probably

we did the hardest part of the fight 4 heal on my alt

before it was juiced

[sudden rover]

No, do you think if I do this it will help

yeah idk I have monkey brain, I think I'm gonna go oom if I cast too many rg

I know it's bs but still I don't follow it

[rustic copper]

????

you think you will go oom if you cast your most mana efficient spell by far

[thorn plover]

Niko can I post the chart

[rustic copper]

no you may not fuck you

[fervent mica]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-no-nonono-noooo-cat-no-gif-13597132752790194338

[rustic copper]

[thorn plover]

🤣

[rustic copper]

W resto druid sabatoge

[sudden rover]

is this good?

[thorn plover]

V I'm gonna DM you something very important

[sudden rover]

for salhadaar mm

[thorn plover]

You may not share it with niko

[sudden rover]

aight

[fervent mica]

...

[rustic copper]

come back next week and I will answer why your mana disappeared

[pulsar kettle]

[thorn plover]

Explains the prof pic

Or the prof pic explains

Idk

[bright swift]

Is paladins 4 heal easy

[thorn plover]

I think it would be fine

[hearty coral]

is there a reason to use recklessness vs potential for raid

im thinking of mana from using recklessness

but it shouldnt really matter

cause mana hasnt been an issue much

idk if its been discussed

[fervent mica]

reck is bis

[gentle nova]

U just cut off wg casts for mana

[analog raft]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/6RaJV7m2pqHxLtBC?boss=-2&difficulty=0&wipes=2&type=healing

What am I doing wrong

I hate hpals lol

[spark river]

Hpals have nothing to do with your poor gameplay

[analog raft]

that doesnt help

anything

next

[sudden rover]

lmao

[grand herald]

so many dps spells

[spark river]

https://questionablyepic.com/resto-druid/common-mistakes

[grand herald]

21 starsurge casts is crazy

[analog raft]

its instant

[grand herald]

and its not healing

and the moonfire casts

yikes

[spark river]

You re basically half way to a balance druid

[analog raft]

we're supposed to kill bosses, right?

[grand herald]

lol

[fervent mica]

you wasting your time and gcds on damage isn't doing anything though

moonfire shouldn't even be bound in raid...

[grand herald]

i keep it binded so i can accidentally pull here and there

[analog raft]

https://www.archon.gg/wow/builds/restoration/druid/raid/overview/mythic/crown

[sudden rover]

@spark river could u check mine real quick pls? I'm fairly sure the issue is the abundance ramp, I'm spending too much time ramping and I don't consume it after. But still would like confirmation

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/1ZMc6mx3YPX4pCnQ?fight=39&type=healing

[analog raft]

tf

I'm lookin for help

you're tellin me not to dps

archon has it in the build

this place toxic now?

[spark river]

Lifebloom uptime is horrible at 63%. You need an addon for lifebloom.
Swiftmend cpm is awful at 2.7. It should be around 4.5 or higher.
Regrowth to rejuv ratio is very bad. You need to regrowth more to get the most out of abundance. Ramp to 12 abundance and then regrowth to 6 and cycle.
Stop casting damage spells and use that time to ramp.
Use swiftmend only on the person with lifebloom and 2x rejuv.
Always refresh lifebloom in the pandemic window <4.5 sec.
Dont clip your rejuvenations.
Wg before convoke and tranq.
Use innervate to cast actual spells that are mana heavy.

There

There is the help

[main timber]

No they are giving you good advice?

You are not supposed to spam those DPS spells

[analog raft]

why is starsurge built in the build?

[mental belfry]

Spec iron fur and tank the boss instead

[sudden rover]

😹

made me laugh

[analog raft]

this kids a child

[sudden rover]

ty

[main timber]

It isn't in the wowhead build

[mental belfry]

Because you need to spend points in the lower tree to unlock the higher tree

[thorn plover]

This can't be real life

[topaz nest]

entangling roots is in your spellbook and yet you did not cast it a single time

[main timber]

But also tier 1 class points are very fake. You can take everything you want and more

[topaz nest]

Curious

[main timber]

You came here asking why you weren't doing good healing and all of this is very good advice

[spark river]

Just regrowth more when you ramp. Rejuv is still double to regrowths there so your abundance is going to waste.

[sudden rover]

Yeah I was sure it was the issue. Ty, will try to fix that

[main timber]

Archon is not a guide btw and we don't recommend you use it

Though taking or not taking Starsurge doesn't really matter here

[thorn plover]

How to discord (ez mode)

Ask for advice
Get advice
Complain about the advice
Call place toxic
Link to shitty website
Never post again

[spark river]

Your average abundance is at 9.2 which is not that bad, but it can be better, but you re not using regrowth so you re not getting the most out of it.

[bright swift]

[sudden rover]

ty very much

[analog raft]

thats not what happened, you chud

[sudden rover]

pls be nice 🙁

[thorn plover]

My eyes must be deceiving me

[analog raft]

said the kid laughing

[spark river]

We do not promote toxic behaviour

[main timber]

Everyone chill a bit

[spark river]

kekw

[analog raft]

all the toxic people backin up

[main timber]

Yes it was dumb to call good advice toxic, but no point proving that point afterwards

[lean jolt]

Bit late but this helped so much, ty - hated having my hots disorganized

[sudden rover]

why u call me kid 🙁

[thorn plover]

📝

[main timber]

If you want to actually improve your healing, then read what they told oyu

[spark river]

Read please I did not type it out for nothing

[thorn plover]

Called me a chud. Just actively using slurs against us. Smh

[gilded edge]

or myth platinum star band for r druid?

[bright swift]

Seems like you did bud

[analog raft]

they just said "lol dps too much lol"

yikes

[mental belfry]

Copying my archon mythic lura talents for heroic voidspire help please only toxic advise

[main timber]

No they didn't, reread please

[plain marsh]

I’m crine

[bright swift]

Yes that's literally good advice

You should not be dpsing

[sudden rover]

in raid u should not be dpsing yeah

[main timber]

Re-read this, #resto message

And yes stop pressing so many DPS buttons

[plain marsh]

Usually when u press more healing buttons you do more healing

[thorn plover]

Why does my build have bear form if I'm not supposed to tank

[analog raft]

are you kidding me that was way after, pelase reread LOL

[sudden rover]

😹

[thorn plover]

🧐

[tough portal]

You probably shoulda casted Convoke all around 15s earlier throughout the fight

@sudden rover

[spark river]

Big thrash

[main timber]

I am going to mute you myself at this point. You are being insanely rude to people who put time into helping you for free

[bright swift]

This guy is ragebaiting

[analog raft]

that was not the initial reponse

[sudden rover]

Yeah ty, gotta work on that too

[main timber]

The advice to press fewer DPS spells is also correct. Stop doing that

[analog raft]

only when I mentioned toxicity I got the answer

[main timber]

You are going to really struggle to improve if this is how you react to advice

[analog raft]

I got the answer eventually. you linked it. now stp

[thorn plover]

Save your breath (fingers) voulk, they don't actually want to improve

[spark river]

I could have also double downed