resto

[tough portal]

Dude sometimes you just get people that legit should go one butto rotation

It's crazy they can not play the game

That can ofc include healers

[kind star]

was a good reminder io/ilvl means jackshit

[fervent mica]

https://tenor.com/view/looking-emoji-look-curious-look-around-bear-gif-3276357172940796868

[tawdry isle]

What addon do we use for tracking party member's defensives? I used omnicc in last exp but it seems incompatible now?? 🙁

[tough portal]

Try MiniCC

It does more things than that so go into the settings checking it out and disabling what you don't want

Idk if it still works as of 12.0.5 either but it did last week

[tawdry isle]

thank u 🙂

[stable verge]

Wish it would track shit like Zephyr or racial tho

[karmic heart]

I know this has probably been asked a million times so I apologize but is there a link or thread or website about the upcoming lifebloom nerf and healing nerf for this week?

[gaunt willow]

Wowhead

https://www.wowhead.com/news/augmentation-evoker-and-devourer-dh-nerfs-upcoming-class-tuning-381505

[haughty ibex]

shit u are just 2 days late

[bright swift]

they asked..

[kind star]

I havent even looked at it yet, doesnt look too big a nerf considering apex kinda cracked?

[tough portal]

Yeah it'd require some way to check if it's up or been used but the only ones available are whatever you can see on blizzard's raid frames

[bright swift]

I swear it's bigger than 7%

Just the apex alone is 7% on my log

wait nvm

that's the calculation I did for losing apex 4

I'm not losing apex 4

[tough portal]

Good morning

[spark river]

Resto druid dead

[thorn plover]

Gm 🙂

[spark river]

Thanks vrocas

[wise galleon]

Question!!! How do we pot as healer in m+? Macroing to a big cd is dumb right

[spark river]

Gm

Yes it is

Just have a seperate keybind

[thorn plover]

Pot on spots you need another cd

[wise galleon]

I have so many keybinds..painge

[thorn plover]

I have like ... 10

[wise galleon]

Ill manage

[kind star]

Only 10 wut

[thorn plover]

Ive seen a couple people say they're out of keybinds. Are you guys binding form spells to seperate keys or something

[kind star]

I have like 3 action bar keybinded and 2 on the side not fully bound

[wise galleon]

yes

[thorn plover]

What a mistake

[wise galleon]

i even have a macro to exit the current form

[uncut mica]

Out of key binds? I wish I had more abilities to press, like last season

[spark river]

You had

Flourish my guy

Thats pretty much it

[kind star]

I just press a spell to get out of form like if im in cat I press rejuv or lb to go out

ngl I keep forgetting about tranq in raid and m+ D:

[uncut mica]

flourish, interupt, the self-heal, at least 3

[kind star]

Skull bash my beloved..... 😭

[stable verge]

man I'm so glad we don't have that rat ass interupt anymore

[spark river]

Im not

[stable verge]

well then

[kind star]

was a good failsafe with pugs tbh

[spark river]

Dps are awful

[kind star]

I cant trust those demon pugs

they cant even get rid of chains most of the time ! smh

[stable verge]

yeah ofc, but the leaping part has fucked me over more times than I'd like to admit

[plain steeple]

I need to level my slayer arms warrior.
Then I can atleast be invincible and receive half the dmg of what my pugs usually receive.

[kind star]

Often in keys im running ppl will let a caster chilling in the back of the pack without kicking it 😩

[stable verge]

Last WS I got os by bird spit + bolt in half a second, tank went "healer bad" lmao

Still

fak bash, still

[spark river]

I ve had some situations where my dps just evaporates to a single cast

Always funny

[kind star]

it feels tough for that this expac I feel like, sometimes ppl just get nuked all of a sudden

or just not doing mechanics getting hit once or twice while im moving and their dead

[stable verge]

Feel like it was always the case as the key got higher but ye

[kind star]

hard to not feel bad myself in those case

altho out of my control

[thorn plover]

How do you remember that many binds if you're not using form bars or clicked type bindings. Seems crazy inefficient

[wise galleon]

I started using warcraft recorder and its actually peak to check all deaths and see what I did wrong and what exactly happened, logs are a bit clunky to get through. I feel like some tank pulls are straight up garbage or poorly desynched so big aoes overlap with some other instant cast dispell mechanic and dps jsut get 1shot.

[wise galleon]

Huh I just have like two buttons of the mouse binded to two forms and shift + the same two buttons to the other 2 forms

[thorn plover]

Once you're in the forms

[stable verge]

Hey, health go to 0. Heal job make sure health do not go to 0. Therefore, always healer mecanic

Fairly simple tbh

[kind star]

I couldve saved them with a NS prolly!

[wise galleon]

Oh im using form bars yea

[thorn plover]

Then how do you have so many keybinds

[kind star]

anyways glad im starting to get my bearings again and doing 10s smoothly, been rusty af.

[tough portal]

For raids sure. There were other buttons used in other game modes my guy

[thorn plover]

Like for me 1 is rejuv/wrath/rake/mangle

Depending on form, depending on target

[stable verge]

Is that ctrl+0 ?

or q?

[grizzled seal]

Q

[stable verge]

thank god

[wise galleon]

Q

[thorn plover]

I don't even bind qweasd

Lol

[wise galleon]

0 is actually caps lock i just rebinded my keyboard

[stable verge]

duplicate then but ye

[wise galleon]

I just bind Q and E

[wise galleon]

shift-T

[tough portal]

Legendary. I do the same but I use caps lock as alt

[stable verge]

I meant you have the same spell twice

[tough portal]

So I hit all 3 mods with my pinky

Very nice

[wise galleon]

thats smart

[thorn plover]

Same

[wise galleon]

wtf im dumb

i thought soothe and dispell were different spells

kek

[thorn plover]

Huh

[stable verge]

Free keybind

[thorn plover]

They are... You have soothe twice

And dispel

[wise galleon]

Nono wait dispel aint the same as soothe right

[thorn plover]

No

[spark river]

I only press buttons that heal (ignore renewal)

[wise galleon]

Then I probably fucked up the tooltip of the macro being on mouseover

they are defintely two diff spells

like shift + Q is the dispell

[idle lake]

how are you out of keybinds

[wise galleon]

and shit + T is remove enrage

[idle lake]

5 is remove enrage E is dispel #bosh

[wise galleon]

im not ill get, Ctrl + G or shift + G or G

why in thell i didnt bind G, also I could unbind HoW and symbiotic

[thorn plover]

I guess counting modifiers I have more than 10, but actual buttons is like 10

[wise galleon]

maybe just symbiotic

[thorn plover]

Yeah I don't bind those

[spark river]

My fingers went afk on that ctrl g

[stable verge]

What about B then

[tough portal]

Thats so funny

I have at least 20 without counting modifiers

[wise galleon]

B is too far, G and T are acceptable, 4 also but 5 is too much

[thorn plover]

I'm gonna map mine out and see what I actually have

[tough portal]

23 with mousewheel

[thorn plover]

Wow

[tough portal]

F1 f2 f3 f4, 4 extra mouse buttons, wheel up, down, click, '123456 qerty sfgh zxcvbn
33 without modifiers

[wise galleon]

Btw question, deaths in M+ count as 15 seconds on the timer right? When is it calculated, how?

[stable verge]

It's added to the timer after each death

[tough portal]

Ofc the far keys are less used
6 is brez, H is mount, N is symbiotic relatioship rn but it used to be swarm

[wise galleon]

Okay but I did last boss of Pit of Saron and 2 people died

We still managed to time it

[tough portal]

And \ next to Z. 34

[wise galleon]

but the tiemr was under 15 seconds at the time

So it didnt calculate?

[tough portal]

They count instantly but deaths in the last minute dont count or something

Yeah

Or last 30s, last 15s

[stable verge]

I've had a similar case in MC during last boss. People died during the ghost phase and timer did not move

[tough portal]

Some threshold exists

[wise galleon]

understandable

[stable verge]

There's something fishy yeah

[wise galleon]

fml binding capslock as alt is such a peak move

i dont want to rebind my keybindings now

next season, next spec

[thorn plover]

K I lied it's 18

And I'm probably missing something

[stable verge]

I think my greatest keybind of the last few years has been the ping

[thorn plover]

Ping is on my mouse

[stable verge]

Now that we can do it I can never go back

[kind star]

idk what to use for ping had to keybind it on my alt because a tank was clueless in pos kept getting stunned every rock on forgemaster lol

[tough portal]

I will show you mine once I'm home you'll love it

[thorn plover]

My mouse has these 3 extra buttons in the middle that are supposed to be for changing the LEDs/dpi. I remapped those to actual buttons and it's awesome

[tough portal]

I have 1 of those but its way too hard to press

[kind star]

im using shift+f7 rn(mmo mouse with 12 buttons for f keys)

[tough portal]

Its behind the wheel

[thorn plover]

Yeah same with mine. I used to use the front one for efflo, now it's like a random extra bind if needed.
The one behind that is ping
The one behind that I can't reach

I posted a mouse pic here once and got flamed for it having a tiny bit of dirt on it

Mousewheel is a good bind, I used to use it for something but haven't for a long time

[tough portal]

HAHAHA they were out of line bro

Your mouse was fine

[raw cobalt]

Do you guys macro Nature Swiftness with Convoke the spirits? ? I think it still affects all the Regrowth casted

[thorn plover]

It doesn't work anymore

They "fixed" that 3 weeks ago or so

[raw cobalt]

Ok

[tough portal]

I never double checked that man

I trusted jb so blindly

What if it isnt fixed

[thorn plover]

Thanks, I needed this 😂

[undone cove]

So no need to do them together anymore?

[brittle pond]

guys i don't know what to equip, I have these 3 rings, what would you do for M+? These are my stats

I'm main dps and I'm having struggles with equiping a healer without simming

the void one is the worst since it has crit on it, but its on myth..

[tulip nexus]

i would just use the hero track ones and save myth crests, im assuming you got it from bonus rolling NPX so you get atleast 1 good myth track ring soon enough

[brittle pond]

makes sense, to have it on myth is not free, it woul need crests so better to spend them on tier pieces right?

[spark river]

tiny bit is definitely a way to describe it lol

[brittle pond]

thank you!

[molten elk]

Any idea if we're still playing apex in raid post nerf?

[grizzled seal]

You are

I doubt the specs will change

[molten elk]

Cool, thanks

[wind ermine]

Anyone know why my personal notes arent playing tts but if RL pushes one it will?

[unique sedge]

I just figured out why tanks keep getting oneshot by the axes in algethar. When you stun them, they will sync their attack on the tank and oneshot him. How do we deal with that, cuz im 100% sure healing wont save them from that oneshot (had a tank take 2.8 mil dmg in 2.6 seconds on just 2 packs from vexamus, 19 AA)

[grizzled seal]

My tts doesn't work unless I show the note

[wind ermine]

mine wont even show the note when i click it lmao

[spark river]

Every half serious tank knows this

You need to give space or all the adds melee at the same time and one shot you

[unique sedge]

Idk, brew is so rio inflated atm, most of them dont even know u get crit from behind

[tulip nexus]

tier pieces are a lot more valuable to upgrade yeah, rings are low prio since they dont have any main stat

[tough portal]

'-' I dont think they get crit from behind

[unique sedge]

They do, tanks dont take crits from melees or tank mechanics, but if mobs are behind, they are susceptible to crits

[grizzled seal]

That's incorrect

[unique sedge]

Also no dodge, block, stuff like that

[grizzled seal]

They cannot be crit period, it is not related to being hit from any side

The only way a tank can get crit is by sitting down

[unique sedge]

Just read about it now, it hasnt been a thing for a long while

[grizzled seal]

It has never been a thing

[marsh prism]

how much spirit do I need

[limpid jacinth]

mp5 better

[unique sedge]

Isnt it a thing in classic and tbc, where u have to max ur defense skill in order to avoid being crit by melees

[grizzled seal]

Yes but being hit from behind doesn't factor into this

"Behind" is only for dodges, parries and blocks

[unique sedge]

Oh okay, so probably them getting oneshot from behind due to lack of avoidances made me think they get crit

[kind star]

yeah wth my tank aint critcap!

[grizzled seal]

Monks specifically are very reliant on dodge

So if they can't dodge they just flop obviously

[unique sedge]

Eh i recommend telling them they get crit from behind, it does wonders

[grizzled seal]

If someone told me that I'd assume they are a fucking idiot and ignore them going forward

[kind star]

what healers have yall been playing as an alt curious what yall alt? or do yall just play 4 different druids 😂

[unique sedge]

Thats rude

[grizzled seal]

Disc / monk for me

[unique sedge]

Like there’s no need to be this toxic m8

[kind star]

been curious about monk as ive played alot of it in mop, never actually played one in retail.

[grizzled seal]

Retail monk is completely different

Basically I just play high haste specs

[kind star]

I never wanted to touch it before because it was overwhelming at least now id know some of it ig

[grizzled seal]

Miss me with 10% haste snails

[kind star]

all right ill work on a monk 😛 always liked fisting stuff

[tulip nexus]

hpala/hpriest

[thorn plover]

🙄

Dramatic

[unique sedge]

Disc but it sucks

[tough portal]

Sola has the worst takes. Nothing new.

[spark river]

face always bullies me because he doesnt see the vision

[placid flax]

druid and druid only or a dps

[kind star]

havent touched priest since like sland haha heard theyve got mana issues?

[unique sedge]

Hope it stays that way

[tulip nexus]

i think its just holy priest that has mana issues but maybe im wrong

[kind star]

just learned u could queue for follower dung for free mana water noice lol

[grizzled seal]

Just craft some sanguithorn tea

Stacks to 1000

[velvet cloak]

And is cheaper than dirt

[kind star]

ooh I do have some of these from alch

the tooltip just made me tought conjured was faster/better, french brain.

[grizzled seal]

It changes expansion to expansion

[kind star]

am I crazy or did teleport to keystone dungeon used to be unlocked with ksm and not just doing a 10? prolly just crazy right

[grizzled seal]

It used to be at max vault +5 level at first

I think +20 was the first iteration back when +15 was a weekly key

[kind star]

yeah that! I was wondering and looked at some of my achievement and saw +20 EB, havent played since then really.

[lapis shell]

symbiotic relationship on the tank in m+?

[stable verge]

In higher keys, usually on squeeshy dps

Aug, mage, monk (if you see one lol) sorta things

[solid hemlock]

ww seem to like to get 1-shot by cleaves ime heh

[stable verge]

They vanish out of thin air ye, can't blink with one in your group

[spark river]

imagine inviting mages to keys

[haughty ibex]

mage and monk yeah surely

[kind star]

never really thought about moving symbiotic good call, doesnt do alllll that much on tank anyway.

[dreamy hatch]

In m+ is it better to use power of the archdruid on regrowth or rejuvenate? I assume its dependant on what's going on

[fierce isle]

Need heals right now? Regrowth

Need heals over the next 15 seconds? Rejuv

[dreamy hatch]

Does the split regrowth give the full heal? Or just the hot portion

I assume the full heal otherwise it wouldn't make sense as a emergency heal

[fierce isle]

Full heal and hot

[stiff rose]

It give the instant heal + the hot, on 3 players

[dreamy hatch]

Okay, makes sense

[stiff rose]

even better if players already have regrowth or if you just pressed nature things that make you next spell instant and heal a lot more

[dreamy hatch]

Does it smart cast on low health targets?

[fierce isle]

If you have already pre hotted with rejuvs/wild growth a sotf regrowth right as big damage drops is pretty much a cd

[stiff rose]

I "think yes" but unsure

[dreamy hatch]

Recently picked up resto and learning the nuances

Played disc priest for the last 4 seasons

[stiff rose]

resto will deal way less damage ^^

But I really love this spec

[stable verge]

Well even that is getting debatable

Although it's not as natural as it is for disc

[dreamy hatch]

Yah, im still pretty low item level but struggle to find damage windows beyond a few instant cast

Id expect as my Hots hit harder there's more opportunities to use gcds on dmg

[stiff rose]

Maybe I'm just not skilled enough for now ^^ But finding damage windows in packs seems really complicated for me

[peak ledge]

Hey, i had to fill in yesterday for mythic vanguard progress on my druid and i havent really done any actual raidhealing before that (i am a melee dps lol). Could i post my progress log somewhere here to get some feedback?

[stiff rose]

(in boss I can manage some catweaving but it's limited^^)

[stable verge]

Will come with time. Catweave is probably the easiest way to deal some quick & easy damage so keep at it

[dreamy hatch]

I haven't figured out cat weaving yet it feels weird to have to shift then dps adding more buttons to my bar then casting to leave cat. Feels like a dance to set up with your bars

[kind star]

I mostly just hotw prio target and bosses and dps on boss only dont find time to cast starfire.

[stable verge]

Trick is to have very similar bars between cat and human form eheh

That way nothing really changes when you switch

[dreamy hatch]

I'll have to mess with that later

[stable verge]

Or don't catweave except hotw and just blast as caster

Boring ahh gameplay but sure as hell packs a punch if you can find casting time

[dreamy forge]

i find wildstalker and catweaving so awkward

[grizzled seal]

Read "common mistakes" article linked in the pins. 99% chance you've made them all

[dreamy forge]

maybe ill stick to keeper with call of the ancients and dream of the cenarius

[kind star]

can be tough to dps in pugs too tbh lol

cranks a 10 year long starfire and then dps decides to not do mechanics, I swear it always happens!

[dreamy forge]

bro if i rejuv the group -> Wild growth into rakes and rips, my party is already at low health when i get my first 2 rakes off

[marsh prism]

sounds like a lot of wasted gcds

[dreamy forge]

you have to do so many apms to do 15k dps, meanwhile on my Mistweaver monk i can just heal by dpsing, my hps and dps is higher

[stable verge]

Well monk is its own thing, but it's not like it's a struggle to do 15k dps with current starfire

[spark river]

So play monk lol

[stable verge]

Nor it is needed so damage what you can and it likely will be enough

[dreamy forge]

but every guide i read doesn't say to use starfire, they all tell me to catweave, maybe i just need to get used to it

[dreamy forge]

wow nice helpful feedback!

[spark river]

Your ranting is equally useless

[dreamy forge]

its not ranting? It's explaining my experience and trying to look for ways to improve

[stable verge]

Catweave is better Prio damage all things considered, casting can be cool for bulk number

And catweave is probably easier to maintain, since just running a few bleeds is like 80% of the max dps

[runic idol]

hey guys someone can share a dream of cenarius build for m+?

[spark river]

Catweaving is more useful because your bleeds will still be bleeding when you have to switch to healing

[stable verge]

Exactly, it's fairly chill to play

[kind star]

I just hate that starfire takes so long to cook up, maybe I should try catweaving again.

Just recently swapped MS to Liveliness.

[spark river]

I play a mix of cat and starfire

It is what it is

[dreamy forge]

I was looking at logs of the highest rated M+ resto, their sunfire and Feral frenzy are always at the top, followed by rip and rake. I'll just practice it a bit more but i always struggle to find the time to do anything, feels like as soon as i am in catform i gotta switch out instantly

[stable verge]

I mean sure but you may not always follow what the literal top10 is doing

[dreamy forge]

sure but I do it because I assume they're the ones that actually know how to play right?

[stable verge]

Oh yeah 100%, but their issues can be widely different from ours

[tough portal]

Their choices are also not gospel

[stable verge]

Every damage pattern is accounted for before the dg, every cd ect ect

[tough portal]

I'm in the middle of something rn but I can exemplify this in a bit

[stable verge]

Often time they will heal 30% less that people doing key level 5+ less than that

Because of perfect group coordination. So they sometimes can opt in for talent or play style that you could not replicate in pugs

That sort of things

[dreamy forge]

Im not saying I copy their globals 1 to 1 but I use it to analyze how they heal or deal dmg to understand how to have an optimal playstyle

and then adjust it for my own gameplay

[stable verge]

Yes that's good then

[stiff rose]

I'm a feral main so it's not that strange for me, but yeah I understand it can be weird ^^

[dreamy forge]

is there anyone uploading high resto keys? I'd be interested to see someone play that knows what they're doing. That would also help me undertand the spec better

[thorn plover]

Jdotb and vickman

[shut night]

Vickman has been posting a bunch of commentaries on YouTube over the last couple days that are very helpful

[dreamy forge]

thanks alot!

[pastel dragon]

im seeing some very high key R druids (+20) passing on matted fur for things like ursines vigor and fluid form (with moonkin talented) im just curious about this becasue some are also running DoC so theyre starfire spamming in moonkin form during Call of the elder druid. im wondering if being in moonkin form during the CotED buff is any better than not moonkin form

[woven mango]

Was there anything on a build change with the nerfs or not yet 👀

[gentle nova]

You cant do this trade

Matted fur is tier 2, ursine and ff are tier 3

[tough portal]

You can usually cuz people dont take 11 points at the bottom of class tree

You can drop Fluid Form with Starfire spam

[gentle nova]

I feel like not playing forestwalk, symb, roar and hotw is a bad idea

[pastel dragon]

and youd also only get 1 well honed insticts and 1 forest walk to make it work

i know i cant just magically play these very niche choices at the hihest level im just curious about theyre reasoning

[rustic copper]

M+ talk every time, is the raid tier over alr

[limpid jacinth]

top team Druids don’t always run in so roar/bash because they don’t need to

[tough portal]

This is what I wanted to show. At 6 targets, 1 Sunfire every 18s is barely better than 1 Rake every 18s (so not full Rake uptime). This is before considering other damage ramifications like the combo points for a Rip cast.
Dumping 3 talent points to press a Sunfire is just stupid if you're otherwise not specd for Magic damage.

[gentle nova]

The tradeoff is forestwalk and incap roar

Not whi or matted

I could see roar not needed but walk is strong

[pastel dragon]

this is what i was looking at for the build from this +21 MC log i was looking through

[limpid jacinth]

yeah, but 1 point in forest walk is usually passable

Im not advocating anyone here do it

[thorn whale]

burn it

[limpid jacinth]

Just that it makes sense in context

[pastel dragon]

yah it looks odd to me i just wanted to see if i there was anything to this players reasoning for the talent choices

[gentle nova]

Yes

[spark river]

the reasoning is that mc is one of the easier keys to heal so they are going fully into doc

set team also

so no random damage

[pastel dragon]

ah ok, thats a good point

[livid hearth]

btw I read that u can gear with vers for dps focused isntead if interested to test around. But didnt want to test around blindly so checked qelive. As u see there is option taht says healing focused, but there is no other option to change to like damage focused xD

any idea why?

[main timber]

I removed it in Midnight for now. Most players should just play for healing

[tough portal]

Thats not a thing anyways

In 2026

[main timber]

So it was just bait for people who picked it

[dreamy forge]

You could keep the option there to make it selectable but then still show the results for healing focussed so it doesn’t do anything

[main timber]

lmfao

[pulsar kettle]

hire this man voulk

[knotty goblet]

🧠

[zenith pike]

so reroll on sham next week ? ^^

[spark river]

Yes

[knotty goblet]

why?

[spark river]

Anyone playing druid based on tuning should reroll

[pulsar kettle]

Just play 5% better

[tulip flax]

This good ?

[spark river]

No

[tulip flax]

So go for basic craft ?

[knotty goblet]

waste of embellishment I guess

[spark river]

Go for the recommended crafts

[tulip flax]

oh it uses embellishement

[frosty canyon]

yessir

[tulip flax]

Ty

[frosty canyon]

no problem! it gets confusing sometimes

[smoky grove]

how do you guys play last boss skyreach skip? I have to wild charge right before he dropps me? Can i spam wild charge or does it get on cd then?

[thorn plover]

Right as he drops you, make sure you're facing the platform and moving that direction

I hold both mouse buttons and face the platform, and push charge right as he drops

Travel form charge

[smoky grove]

you have macro for that or you just press after each other

[thorn plover]

Macro for what

You can be in travel form long before he drops

[sudden rover]

mw

druid becomes garbo two days from now, time to say goodbye to druid

[thorn plover]

40% nerf. Rip

[fleet jewel]

we get to delete our toons and logout

[gentle nova]

Can also just remove any human error by picking moonkin form, shift into it and just wild charge backwards

[sudden rover]

that's actually a 400% nerf

I did the math

[thorn plover]

I missed a 0

New to the calculator app

[sudden rover]

np

[undone linden]

he takes u out of travel form

u need to time it

[thorn plover]

He's never taken me out of it 🤔

[undone linden]

weird

[thorn plover]

I hop in once I'm at the edge and everyone is hotted up

Mattiu is right tho, boomie form is easier. I'm just not speccing boomie form

[gentle nova]

Meh

You lose 0.00001% by picking it

[thorn plover]

Yeah

I just cba changing specs tbh

Lol

Any more math this weekend on talents for tomorrow

I was away

[fleet jewel]

Under their most favored healers agreements, blizzard is delivering record setting nerfs with throughput differences of 400%, 500%, and 600, 700, and even 800% reductions.

[past tusk]

are you guys spending your bonus rolls in m+ or raid? I am a bit in doubt whether I should roll for an heroic raid trinket or get 2 myth track items from M+ instead

[thorn plover]

If you aren't myth raiding, spend in m+

[sudden rover]

never use your voidcores for a hero loot

[past tusk]

Ok thanks, I thought so 😄

[sudden rover]

use in 10s or chimae MM for gaze

[undone elk]

With the call of the elder build, I’m seeing builds without starsurge. How are we triggering the buff ?

[sudden rover]

elder build is with starsurge

would be weird to say the least to not pick ss

[gentle nova]

You can rake to proc

[sudden rover]

yeah but why lmfao

[undone elk]

Ok, Maybe their build links are bugged then. I’ve seen some with no rake or surge

[gentle nova]

Because people play call with catweaving talents

[sudden rover]

:x

[thorn plover]

It's such a meme build people are taking it and don't even know how tf it works

[lucid token]

If I’m just keeping the group up pre damage should I use rejuv or regrowth for my swiftmend procs? What about catch up damage? (This would be after wild growth)

[thorn plover]

Rejuv

[spark river]

rejuv and wg pre damage

regrowth as damage hits

[pastel dragon]

is there an optimal way to handle movement in first boss of SR? i find too often im just running in circles

[spark river]

Sometimes rejuv is enough on smaller damage so no need to regrowth

[knotty goblet]

You can reg bomb if you have several low and behind, depends on situation I guess

[thorn plover]

You shouldn't have to move much at all there

If you search my name in here with videos, I posted a clip

[pastel dragon]

should it be just side step one way then the other? during tornados

oh ok cool

[spark river]

first boss is basically a mix between heal the bleed and dps in cat

[thorn plover]

#resto message

That's all I do the whole fight

[pastel dragon]

ah ok yah that makes it easy, then just move towards the middle if you get targeted with the knockback?

[thorn plover]

Ideally. Wherever you aren't getting knocked off or into another tornado

[zealous hill]

How bigs the nerf coming for m+

[gentle nova]

5%

[zealous hill]

Ez

Any play stle change or nah

[spark river]

no

[zealous hill]

Cheers

[spark river]

a guy has timed a 22 magister with a point in regenesis

absolute madman

[kind star]

idr what that actually is, some tranq talent?

[crystal kettle]

are you supposed to turn around when convoking to heal more(?)

[bright swift]

no

the only way convoke heals more is if you are out of range of any enemy

so that's very rare

[grizzled seal]

Or LoS

[calm flare]

Guys, why do i keep seeing videos recomending cat weave instead of owlweave for resto in M+? any thoughts?

[spark river]

because a cat is cooler than an owl

[calm flare]

agreed, but i dont wanan feel bad about using it! mwahahah

[spark river]

Play whichever you want

Its not going to make a difference

Healer dps is negligible

Cat is more prio damage, owl is more pad aoe damage

[bright swift]

the game is good

[woven mango]

Im guessing if theres talent updates itll be done on all the guides tomorrow?

[tough portal]

Impossible to answer man

[thorn plover]

Excellent guess

[pastel dragon]

i dont see how talents choices will change with the slight nerf. it seems like we'll still be better off than before tha apex change

[spark river]

Talents should stay the same

[gentle nova]

the last point in apex is competitive with REFO and TV

after nerf

[rustic copper]

Give me a source on apex being competitive with refo without tree duration

[gentle nova]

sure

[rustic copper]

And it’s surely bad with 2 min convoke right

[gentle nova]

yes

a lot of power in refo is with convoke iirc

[spark river]

how are you getting 7% from refo

It would have to be perfect play

[gentle nova]

apex 4 is not 7 after nerf

its 5

the rejuv/reg extension part of tv by itself is 3

and it adds 1-2 to bounty and more mastery uptime

if you already play 2tv you just swap apex 4 to 1 min convoke

if you have 15 regrowth cpm its over for you anyway

might just play meme talents

[rustic copper]

I’m rly not convinced on 1 min convoke being that large

It’s only 18 spells vs 12 right

[wary belfry]

more tranq ticks if u care...

[rustic copper]

2 min having the option to line up with tranq too

I have no idea how much the exceptional spell thing is worth

[thorn plover]

Go all in then and play doc

Don't half ass it

[gentle nova]

i mean in 2 minutes with 1 min convoke you get 24 spells

in 2 mins with 2 min you get 16

yeah i think refo is dead

but 1 min voke is good

[fierce isle]

Are you playing 2TV 2min convoke @gentle nova ?

[gentle nova]

rn yeah

[fierce isle]

I’ve really enjoyed it the last two weeks

[gentle nova]

ill swap apex 4 for 1 min convoke tho

[woven mango]

ty ty i try sometimes

[gentle nova]

next patch

or next wseek

[rustic copper]

Do you think we still need to self bloom

I think the leech value might outweigh it now

If you drop apex 4 + the nerf

That means you also get to play rg % for some nb value

[soft slate]

is there a website that shows trinkets? not referencing wowhead or icy veins... I thought I remember a different website that like graphed them

[gentle nova]

i dont know

[soft slate]

and how they were as resto druid

[gentle nova]

perma self lb is 24% on blooms

almost permanently

[rustic copper]

I thought 20%

Where’s the other %

[gentle nova]

natural recovery, the wildstalker node and 16% from forestwalk

if they are multiplicatively they are 25.6%

idk if they are additive or mult

[main timber]

Probably this https://questionablyepic.com/live/

[main timber]

They are

[soft slate]

thank you!

[rustic copper]

Leeeeech though

I want to use my leech

[fierce isle]

Hmmmm

I hate that they made the apex good in raid finally and then nerfed big enough that people will drop it again

[gentle nova]

Its probably a sidegrade to drop the 4th

But still yeah

[fierce isle]

It makes sense though. 1min convoke gives a lot more flexibility

[lunar hornet]

looking to try out resto druid some in m+, are the wowhead guides still relatively up to date or are there other builds i should try out?

[dense lantern]

they're up to date

[lunar hornet]

as wildstalker, are we still using moonkin spells for dmg during downtimes? or catweaving still a thing?

[dense lantern]

yes, yes

wildstalker has nothing to do with catweaving

caster is stronger

dps doesnt matter so if you want go play cat

[lunar hornet]

awesome thank you!

[pastel dragon]

managed to time a 17 AA but i still feel so unsure on Vexamus with the overlaps. Do you guys have set order of CDs you reccomend for each time arcane fissure comes out? does mana bomb always line up with every other arcane fissure?

[spark river]

Yes every other

Yes you should be prepared

[livid hearth]

Is there no faster way for bearform + frenzied regen btw? My friend started applying and wondering if he could do those 2 in one click

[spark river]

He cant

Only with mangle and frenzied but thats also 2 clicks

Bear form on its own should be enough as a defensive

[livid hearth]

I see, we should think of those 2 of small and big defensive so its 2 clicks

[pastel dragon]

So id ramp before the mana bombs go out then probably convoke as the mana bombs are ticking to get everyone up enough that fissure won't kill them?

[spark river]

There is a second or two after mana bombs hit and fissure goes out

In that time you need to top the group

And then convoke during fissure

[pastel dragon]

Ok, ill have to practice that timing

[tough portal]

I dont think about frenzied regen as any size

[kind star]

always forget about frenzied regen talent until it procs and saves my life tanking mechanics lol

[sacred wasp]

you can alternate convoke and NS regrowth for the fissure overlaps, usually what i do

[pastel dragon]

Thats a good idea, along the lines of what I was trying to do. I need to be more consistent though

[sacred wasp]

if you get consistent with how ur dealing with the mana bombs then you wont ever need ns to clutch up a save on someone

that ones just practice

also put ur lb on the aug or whoever is squishier than the rest of the group

warlock/devo/udh all do pretty okay against mana bomb so the attention should be on the aug and yourself

[pastel dragon]

with NS + convoke not a thing any more what do you guys think about taking the reduced CD on NS vs the regrowth bonus?

[haughty ibex]

ngl the overlap is mainly defs/externals

like sure u gotta heal them, but i was struggling insanely hard too b4 when my dps were wasting defs on other stuff

ask for zephyr on the overalp, have bark ready for whoever doesn’t have defs, and ye hold ur convoke/tranqui for it

[pastel dragon]

when do you tranq? for the few seconds bombs are ticking before they drop?

[sacred wasp]

i wouldn't, you want your ns to be meaningful when you use it especially when you're using it in a situation like that ^

[haughty ibex]

ye def, but as i said if dps press their buttons for the overlap is not that tragic, put urself in the situation in which u just have to spam rg in the few seconds u have and gg

[strange dew]

how are yall using Emberwing? Do you just pop it on CD?

[bright swift]

I'm not

[thorn plover]

Me neither. Hope that helps

[grizzled seal]

did you not count 20% from symb bloom?

[past tusk]

if you use NS on a regrowth after swiftmend, will the NS buff to regrowth be applied to 3 targets?

[rustic copper]

That was about self vs ally

Ally gets 20% too

[grizzled seal]

oh didnt read

[bright swift]

focus on the raid Torty

[zenith current]

whats a good chicken heal build ?

[thorn plover]

What is a chicken heal build

[bright swift]

spare your group the pain and don't do it

[thorn plover]

Is this a chicken heal build?

[zenith current]

lol

[urban bone]

Damn even an 8

[rustic copper]

If we drop apex for 1 min convoke post nerf, is it still self bloom or do you play 35% regrowth amp and bloom someone else

[silk ice]

Is the 6-7% nerf a large enough swing to drop apex?

[rustic copper]

Idk

[rustic copper]

Well you’d drop 4th apex and still run photo, 0 apex is bald and stupid

[oak garnet]

In raid I'd probably just use it on cd with convoke. In m+ you can use it separately as usually convoke is enough in 5 man content

It's also not your bis and probably better to keep farming for how/gaze which are good options if you don't mythic raid in a guild that kills dragons and crown

[grizzled seal]

what does 35% regrowth amp do to you

[rustic copper]

I don’t regrowth myself ever because I have a 100k hps on myself with lb

I now need to heal myself sometimes

And that 35% buffs nb supposedly

[gentle nova]

Doesnt matter if the lb is swapped to someone else

[hexed locust]

What % is the impact on the changes on wednesdays for the resto druids what do you guys think?

[formal fjord]

Broccoliz - BiS 🐺🦋 — 2/05/2026 2:39 pm
May 5th Tuning: Link
All healing reduced by 3%
Everbloom heals for 20%/40% of Lifebloom's bloom healing (down from 25%/50%)
The Apex and aura nerfs add up to a combined 6-7% in raid and a little less in Mythic+. We'll still be very good in both.

Updates on potential build changes and additional details coming soon.

as per pinned messages

[grizzled seal]

that does not sound worth to me

[rustic copper]

Leech %?

Leech is rly good

And we’re not using it rn

[grizzled seal]

leech is not good

[bright swift]

i swapped my enchants to avoidance lol

[rustic copper]

It’s good if you aren’t self lb

[crystal kettle]

Could someone please tell me what I can do to improve my raid healing? I feel like it’s mid at best and I’m not sure how to improve?https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/G7Wwvy3z8HcptaFD?fight=last&type=healing&source=1

[fervent mica]

https://questionablyepic.com/resto-druid/common-mistakes

all of those

[plain steeple]

Sotf ns Regrowth on yourself every 48s?

For big NB splash

[crystal kettle]

thanks!

[spark river]

How are you mana potting with 40 cpm?

All of those plus pressing your buttons way more

[plain steeple]

Actually every 60s with barkskin+NS macro.

[crystal kettle]

used to have big mana issues so bought a bunch to never have that problem

[rustic copper]

Barkskin NS macro

Based and real

[spark river]

Lets work on fundamentals to never have that problem

[thorn whale]

Fuck it bear form + frenzied regen too

You can NS RG in bear form

[plain steeple]

Ok but does that give any bonus heal?

If you already pressed barkskin?

[thorn whale]

Idk

You tell me

[fervent mica]

3%

[plain steeple]

No it doesnt.

[fervent mica]

bear vers baby

[plain steeple]

Which 3%?

Yikes

[fervent mica]

LOL

[thorn whale]

Big up

[plain steeple]

But 35% RG Bonus + Barkskin is a 90% bonus on Regrowth.
On top of sotf + NS this is quite some NB booster (pure overheal).

With full mastery stacks, implant

[thorn whale]

Idk I’d rather just use my SOTF + NS to actually heal someone

Instead of throwing it into myself for a bigger splash

[sharp marsh]

Alleria P3, can we wild charge human or cat on the other platform? pretty sure I tried and it didn't work (so need to dash and jump)

[thorn whale]

Travel form

Wild charge

[sharp marsh]

oh right travel works at this boss

[thorn whale]

Yup

[sharp marsh]

dumb me

[thorn whale]

Ay atleast you asked 🤷🏼‍♂️ quick fix

[rustic copper]

Tiger dash

[kind star]

first time I did that boss I proceeded to run off the edge 😂 thought id make the jump without any boost.

[faint willow]

guys is this dps resto spec with call of the elder druid + keeper of the grove etc viable at all in m+ high keys? like 15 and higher. or is it just a meme thing? If I can pump like 200k dps that sounds fun

[idle lake]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/933386399279878154/991343673419763753/caption.gif

[iron canopy]

Meme build from what I’ve seen or tried , heals are lacking when not in the DOC window / bosses

[idle lake]

didnt it only exist bc of a bug

[faint willow]

i tried it a little it feels rly nice in the call of the elder window but its only 15sec and when thats over I have 0 hots on anyone

[iron canopy]

Believe it was a bug that made it so good

[faint willow]

guess its a weekly +10 vault kind of spec

[iron canopy]

Yah I was breaking it at like 3 seconds to make sure my LB stayed and refresh hots , some
Dungeons it’s better then others

[faint willow]

the first pull of the dungeon with BL and pot feels so good after that its meh..

[tough portal]

Not exactly, the bug mostly made it feel less abhorrent to play hardcasting 2.5s Starfires by giving more instant casts

[haughty ibex]

i mean starfire dmg still bugged no?

[tough portal]

But thats only relevant outside of teh Call proc

[calm flare]

as in stronger than intended?

[haughty ibex]

ye afaik

myb in spreading misinformation tho idk

[spark river]

Yes its still bugged

[tough portal]

"Viable" is such a vague thing, is it viable ig it depends on your struggle in that content. A 15 or 16 can be trivial for some people but weaker players will find it difficult and lackc awareness to take on a healing loss to buff their damage

Try it in easier keys for you if you want to try to do more damage but like the general response will be that we dont 'endorse' it

[faint willow]

Thats true

I think I need to get better at doing dmg in the normal spec too

no one really cares if I do dmg but if someone dies thats all on me, if my hots are lacking because im dpsing thats just big fail

[tough portal]

It's just an awareness thing and fluidity, not getting in this idea that you are DOING DAMAGE as a set window

Just one spell at a time

[hardy canopy]

i treat call as a healer cd and in very specific situations

i think it's good in MT and Seat cus of mob density

otherwise it's a meme

[lyric parcel]

Guys, in great vault, is it worth keeping resto as the default class or should I change it to balance? Will changing to balance increase the chances of getting better items?

[faint willow]

I dno if im allowed to link youtube vid here. I saw it on Dorki youtube chan just check it yourself.

[hardy canopy]

you can ignore this video

[faint willow]

LMAO wtf

[tough portal]

No, same chance as resto for any good item you'd care about. If you already have myth weapon and trinkets you would change it to feral loot spec.

For M+ only

For raid, it depends on your prog

[hardy canopy]

you can ignore any advice from non-mains who play with world first players

[grizzled seal]

Holy shit first time anyone mentioned it here

[faint willow]

probably sarcasm but im new around here

[lyric parcel]

Nice! Thx

[spark river]

who made this masterpiece

[tough portal]

No idea I just copy and paste

[spark river]

alright but everyone plays doc with keeper and starfire

what if i went cat doc wildstalker

[hasty current]

Pretty sure you'd do very little healing with doc in that case

[thorn plover]

That's mine thanks

[hybrid tangle]

I wonder what the druid was doing in the +8 key that the guy had to put that note

[grizzled seal]

Competitive +8

[sand spruce]

on the topic of dpsing in keys, I've noticed rdruids in the higher/highest keys still going the catweaving route. Is there a specific reason?

[sudden rover]

they enjoy it more

or cba switching talents

[main timber]

I assume they take it for ST damage but you'd have to ask

Some of these logs are criminal

[spark river]

Who said anything about healing

[hasty current]

Extra aoe dmg is mostly pad

Doing more boss dmg and prio is much more important

[formal fjord]

100

[sudden rover]

prio damage 100k feral frenzy every 2 min

[thorn plover]

id rather afk

[pulsar kettle]

hits for far more than 100k

[shrewd spire]

2 points in Thriving Vegetation versus 1 and 1 in nature's bounty.
Seems like both options are valid.
Pros, cons - any advice to help choose the path?

I feel like Nature's bounty is better for burst heals, and having a reactive part to healing instead of going full proactive.

What do you think is best, what would you pick and what would you suggest, and why?

Thanks in advance! 🙂

[sudden rover]

250k woohoo what a prio damage

[pulsar kettle]

• the rip

[exotic zephyr]

I thought we open as bear if we have weapon and trinkets

[rustic copper]

Feral is very slightly better for m+, guardian is significantly better for raid

[spark river]

im not going to fall for the guardian bait again

[rustic copper]

lol

[spark river]

i got 3 staffs and a tank trinket last time

[rustic copper]

You can find dozens of healer loot spec 3x weapon offhand trinket vaults in this channel every Tuesday

[spark river]

i can find them in my vaults also

cause that was week 1

lmao

i just got shitty luck this expansion

it is what it is

[thorn plover]

same

[zenith current]

what are the recommended builds for m+/raid (and any specific fights) these days? Just stick with wowhead and adjust utils or?

[sudden rover]

wowhead is very good yeah

everything u need is in there

https://www.dreamgrove.gg/blog/resto/compendium this also

[exotic zephyr]

Ah I see. By far my biggest upgrade is alnseer and I’ve only killed chim and saldahar on heroic so I’ll prob open as bear for that one raid slot.

[zenith current]

thank you

[wicked jetty]

I've seen guides saying in raid lifebloom/swiftmend myself, is that the same in keys?

[haughty ibex]

not rly no, u want to keep lb on tank/squishy depending on wassup

and sm whoever is ur eb target extending hots on them

[slender gust]

Generally speaking, but not as a hard rule, unless someone needs big healing, in which case I will move LB to them, in M+, I tend to keep LB on the tank for trash, and myself for bosses unless I know the tank definitely doesn't need it, and then I will use discretion

[lethal lichen]

Blood dk don't need lb for sure

[haughty ibex]

blood dk don’t exist in any key above weekly no leavers

[lethal lichen]

Use on squishy lil bro

[haughty ibex]

unless they are freaks

[lethal lichen]

Idunno I love bdk

[slender gust]

IDK about that one chief. Blood DK feels SQUISHY in keys this season

[haughty ibex]

u are a freak then

[lethal lichen]

And take my friend everywhere I go

[haughty ibex]

ye cuz they get os

[lethal lichen]

Ik

[haughty ibex]

if they don’t get os they don’t need u

if they get os u couldn’t have done much other than bark

[lethal lichen]

I hate demon hunters and bears for some reasons

[slender gust]

BDK is usually my favorite tank to invite to PUG keys, but this season, I haven't had many smooth runs with one

[lethal lichen]

They hard for heal for me and dh always have pingpong health even worse than bdk

[haughty ibex]

what’s fun about playing with a blood dk

i legit can’t understand that class

[lethal lichen]

Watch them suffer

[sudden rover]

Tank monk or im not joining the key
Yes I am a meta slave

[lethal lichen]

Lolo

[haughty ibex]

true and real

[lethal lichen]

Fuck monk tank all my homies like bdk

[slender gust]

Bears are pretty easy to heal. They're pretty self-sufficient, and basic maintenance healing will keep them healthy unless it's heavy magic dam. VDH is a pain b/c they don't have 100% uptime on active mit, so if they're not comfortable kiting sometimes, they just die

[lethal lichen]

Yeh bear is cool but all what I see is a some old guy's who can't read chat and routes

[thorn plover]

my god is rsham easy lol

[sinful jackal]

Speaking of blood deathknights do y'all have like heart issues while healing them considering they go zero to a hundred and back again four times a second

[lethal lichen]

Nah

[sinful jackal]

I've heard you pay attention to their runic power instead of health

[thorn plover]

no, you just pretend they dont exist

[proven phoenix]

yeah just dont heal them

[lethal lichen]

They suffer and sweating not me

[proven phoenix]

dks are (should be) entirely self sufficient pretty much

[oak garnet]

Why play with anything but a bm

[sinful jackal]

Really that's crazy

[lethal lichen]

Try monk

[sinful jackal]

Even like in raids?

[lethal lichen]

Spin to win

[lethal lichen]

No

[oak garnet]

There are tons of them and they are in a league of their own

[sinful jackal]

Ok well I meant in raids sorry

[thorn plover]

in raids you treat them like any other tank

aka ignore them

[lethal lichen]

Kkkkk

[sinful jackal]

I'm always watching the tank frames on balance incase I have to brez and our bdks frame is always like wee woo wee woo

But he never die

[sinful jackal]

My friends aren't BMs

[proven phoenix]

yeah you just have to recognise that its only the dks responsibility to keep themselves alive

[sinful jackal]

That seems so crazy but also cool

[proven phoenix]

a lot of tanks are like that tbh

[sinful jackal]

I still feel like dks are new and weird

[proven phoenix]

not entirely self sufficient but they're up there

[sinful jackal]

DONT EVEN GET ME STARtED ON HEMON DUNTERS

[proven phoenix]

some tanks like brm and bear also do very well with just maintenance healing but you dont really need any significant investment

[sinful jackal]

Or those weird flying guys in our group

[drifting timber]

Are we back to bottom feeding after the nerfs?

[spark river]

yes

druid dead

spread the word

[thorn plover]

20% nerf, we dead yep

[sudden rover]

Yep

Literally unplayable

[thorn plover]

reroll holy pal

[rain saddle]

Hey team, I gave healing a go last night doing dungeons from 80 to 90, was a first time healing experience for me.

It was boring.

is that the case?

[thorn plover]

no

theres just nothing to heal at that level

[rain saddle]

Ok cool, will give it a chance then

[torn thunder]

Healing is fun in m+ and raiding - it is super boring in normal/heroic dungeons or delves xD

[outer quartz]

https://i.imgur.com/joE74zi.png can someone explain this to me like im 5? do we get 15 seconds or 45 seconds of boomkin time?

[thorn plover]

15

left over tooltip slop

[urban kestrel]

arent there only like 50 guilds done with prog? I wonder how bad the turnout for mythic sporefall testing will be.

im betting on that fight being absurdly buggy on release

[thorn plover]

66

[urban kestrel]

and testing is this week too lmao

[late hollow]

I've been playing too much Diablo 4, what has happened to druids in raid to make us all wildstalker's again?

[slender gust]

Someone made the claim to me earlier that re: Ironbark vs Life Cocoon, "Ironbark is only useful on tanks, and is useless for saving a DPS, and if you did high enough keys, you'd know this" This is cap AF, right?

[urban kestrel]

it was already pretty close if not possibly better, but the apex hot stacking on self shit really pushed it past kotg (also the self-healing amps are really good for all the heal absorbs this tier)

I dont think either was unplayable before or after patch

hell I had a rank 2 on crown with wildstalker before patch even

also kotg is like a free 5-10k dps from moonfire and that's not a lot, but it's not nothing either

[late hollow]

word. thanks so much

[sudden rover]

Yes

But play mw instead of druid, druid is omega nerfed in a few hours

Will become dogtier meme spec

Legit unplayable

[maiden crest]

https://tenor.com/view/what-really-wow-shocked-impressed-gif-15731500

[slender gust]

We closing the discord y'all? xD

[sudden rover]

Apparently outlaw got buffed again because some guy cried on the US forum

Why don’t we have the same type of guy doing this shit for us druids too

[maiden crest]

I would say the argument between the two is life cocoon absorbs damage as opposed to reducing it like iron bark. I’d also agree that life cocoon would have better reactive results.

But I don’t see why one would make the claim that one is “for ThE tAnK!”

[pulsar kettle]

yes im sure 1 guy crying on the forums got rogue a buff

[sudden rover]

yeah the post got omega upvoted by all the outlaw players and tons of replies

[onyx trail]

its all a part of the rogue cabal with its ringleader whispyr doing shady dealings to get buffed...beware...

[sudden rover]

Peak rogue mentality

[ember folio]

[onyx trail]

hey shaun

[gentle nova]

We do

We make posts and it gets 2 likes and 1 response

[sudden rover]

We reap what we sow i guess

But yeah their crying worked out, good for them

[pulsar kettle]

[magic sigil]

ok I feel like I should know this by now..but if I swiftment into wildgrowth does swiftmend still empower wildgrowth?

[urban kestrel]

I just wish we hadn't gotten aura nerfed

people will still find a way to top hps meters with this meme ass apex by just standing in shit the entire fight no matter how much they nerf it

and devs are too dumb to figure out that infinite self-hps isn't the same as infinite hps

[pulsar kettle]

no

sotf only empowers rg or rj now

[magic sigil]

damn I've been raid healing wrong

[pulsar kettle]

unforch

[urban kestrel]

still good to get WG anyways

[magic sigil]

I'm not wrong though it use to correct?

[urban kestrel]

so it's not a bad move to wg after, but no reason to hold one

[spark river]

in tww yes

Soul of the forest no longer empowers wg

[magic sigil]

thanks

[edgy belfry]

Every time I come back to this game after a break druid is in the gutter

Bar one time to the mini rework we got in df

[urban bone]

wtf I thought we were doing fine

Had no idea we were in the gutter

[kind star]

healed my first 14 NPX phew was tough but fun with a good group sadly didnt time 🙁

[edgy belfry]

It’s either fire mage or rdruid that is DOA for me

[spark river]

we re in the gutter because we re rats not because druid is bad

[edgy belfry]

I’ve legit just came in here to see people saying we are getting nerfs etc

[thorn plover]

lol

dont take it too literally

[edgy belfry]

I’m not making a claim, just reading

[spark river]

we meme a lot

[thorn plover]

this place is 99% memes

[sudden rover]

its pure joking, rdruid is really strong

[thorn plover]

druid is still basically on top on all content

[spark river]

Always check pins

[edgy belfry]

Ok just my fire mage suffering then

[spark river]

Thats where the serious content is

[edgy belfry]

Ok

[kind star]

surely tomorrow I get a weapon from vault prayge, sitting on 160 crest atm.

[edgy belfry]

I haven’t even hit 90 yet, just unlocked haranir bc they look cool.

[sudden rover]

They do look cool but that sweet meld tho, I could not play without it

[urban bone]

Whew I thought I was having fun when I should have been upset at the state of my class this whole time

[stiff ruin]

Is ribbon any good in kkeys?

i have HoW but i would love some on-use trinket ... like vaelgor

[supple solstice]

vault help pls, locus walkers or myth shoulders

[urban bone]

Should sim it here because the answer is “it depends”: https://questionablyepic.com/live/

[supple solstice]

shoulders sim better

[urban bone]

🤝

[thorn plover]

4 pc

[echo sparrow]

Mcnugget?

[fair lava]

can you target dark or light dive targets via macro for ironbark?

[stray cipher]

Mouseover?

[ornate pollen]

What is the consensus on unit frames? I was a cell user but went back to vuhdo, but not loving it anymore

[fickle garden]

Danders and grid 2 the best options atm

[ornate pollen]

Will try ‘em, thanks

[proven phoenix]

its not reliable

a lot of people have tried making some weird macro but it never works

just look at the debuff and use bark

both light and void dives have a debuff

[fair lava]

thanks

[grave quail]

Y'all don't like vuhdo?

[proven phoenix]

its fine

I dont hate it or love it

[prime girder]

anyone know how to show boss pulls and lowest % on the screen? either a stand alone addon or setting on one

[proven phoenix]

there's a raider io widget for it

I'm not sure how it works though

[prime girder]

ty

[still light]

How is the upcoming changes going to affect our healing output this upcoming week?

Also how much does the 2/4 set provide to our healing?

Currently doing heroic with 0 tier right now and feel pretty good about it and was curious

[gentle nova]

7% nerf in raid

2p is 4% hps

[soft dagger]

you will get unlimited supply of manaflux to convert gear to tier after you have 4 tier. So whatever gear you have right now just convert into tier. Lets say if you got veteran track leg, convert it into tier. There is no need to wait for hero/myth track before converting.

[snow dome]

Yep. Send catalyst charges to get 4 piece immediately

[maiden vapor]

im so glad im not the only one who loves bdk

[unique sedge]

i have bear on 6 and frenzied on 6, so i just press twice on 6

Anyone else can confirm if they fixed the first pull in magisters? (yk, monk pulls them through wall)

[pulsar kettle]

worked fine for us about 3 hours ago

[unique sedge]

worked fine for me a few hours ago as well

[abstract ember]

I just did a AA 15 and beer the end before the last boss with the adds that shoot spells, I died twice cause I got 2 arcane shots on me at nearly then an arcane smash. Is there much I ca even do about that and if so what?

[rare coyote]

your dps need to interupt. pop iron bark/bark skin on yourself and pray, or i think you can roar to delay that cast. I could be wrong on that one tho. i dont remember

[abstract ember]

Yeah cause this happened and I legit got annoyed cause to myself I was like

“Tf am I suppose to do about that?” Y’know what I mean?

[rare coyote]

yeah. just gotta do your best to CC with roar and vortex. And pray your dps interupt

[abstract ember]

And if they don’t then

Imma just be like

https://tenor.com/view/dog-accepting-fate-tiktok-at-peace-gif-567488341419321713

[rustic copper]

I can't believe blizzard was dumb enough to buff us holy moly

[gentle nova]

Ask for externals to spam wg

[rustic copper]

lol

[gentle nova]

I discovered its more hps

[rustic copper]

[gentle nova]

Im getting the innervates now to get 6 wg cpm

@thorn plover what was that innervate addon u had

[thorn plover]

wasnt me

[subtle cobalt]

likely vrocas #resto message

[gentle nova]

Noo i want the one that whispers the moonkin

[soft dagger]

just howpug is, but typhoon and roar have save me so many time. Those dragon hawk in WS, those that cast surge in AA. I basically will stand next to them. If in the last moment no one kick I will interupt with roar or typhoon. I am also a tauren so I also use stomp to stop cast.

[fervent path]

wait wtf resto is so fun

[sacred wasp]

not working for us anymore

[fervent mica]

https://tenor.com/view/shhh-shush-silence-nose-gif-17895433

[gentle nova]

why u posting liquid maximum

[sinful jackal]

That's Leon trotsky

[gentle nova]

Looks like max

[sand spruce]

just wanted to double check - with the changes tmrw, do we still play wildstalker in raid if we were to run apex? or are we running KOTG now?

[sinful jackal]

Max has good hair I hope he doesn't cut it

[woven mango]

im patiently waiting for the update tomorrow

[thorn whale]

Discovered?

Also how are you hitting 6CPM of WG I’d like to see that

[gentle nova]

If i had infinite mana i would do so much hps

[thorn whale]

[gentle nova]

Already mastered the spec im just missing like 10% from not having mana to cast wg

[sudden goblet]

Arcane smash can be los if shit hits the fan

[thorn whale]

That’s looking close to 6CPM

[gentle nova]

No mana

[livid hearth]

Ah thats smart haha, then u turn back with a healing spell or rake

[gentle nova]

[hardy fern]

I have 1.4k haste. Is this too much?

[rustic copper]

No

[hardy fern]

when does haste cap?

[rustic copper]

No

[thorn whale]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-blep-blehhb-silly-gif-4711505992572152292

[cunning atlas]

Nexus Point, couple of deaths left side, I get the "are you ok healer?". Look at Details end of the run. A combined group wide interrupt count of 20 and one of the DPS is at 80k with an Aug

Am I ok? 🥲

[indigo flume]

pug experience

[topaz cedar]

zero snares removed

[cunning atlas]

1, by the looks of it

Guess I should just be happy this isn't more common in my runs, but geez

[marsh prism]

@thorn whale incredible thrift haul today thinking of you

[indigo flume]

u can remove dmg snare by just shape shifting

[gentle nova]

So my ns sotf rgs are hitting me for 700k raw

Thats 140k for each bounty target

Now the thing is when do you ramp the rgs

[cunning atlas]

I know, I meant 1 removed by somebody other than me

[gentle nova]

Im gaining about 5% bounty healing doing this but probably playing like ass

[indigo flume]

its just pug experience, today i went to do MT +15 and on boss 1 nobody soaked orbs other than me and tank and we wiped

[fast burrow]

could someone give me advice to improve more, keep in mind, this is a +7 with 215 ilvl so the healing breakdown might be a bit off, dont have 2 nor 4set yet

and yes i struggle with keeping lifebloom up

[cunning atlas]

Oh yeah I know, I've just been quite lucky so far so this was a bit of an outlier for me so far. I know it's unfortunately par for the course

[fast burrow]

sad truth is, this only happens cus people have their nose up their damage meters, and dont care about mechanics in half of the keys

while ur dps doesnt mean shit when u cant even time the key xd

[rustic copper]

Gaining 5% bounty

[cunning atlas]

I wish that 80k dps warlock (with an evoker) had his nose in his damage meters a bit more

[indigo flume]

yeah they must pump and dont even have time to press defensive or kick

[rustic copper]

You mean losing 50% other healing

[fast burrow]

trust me, i know after having to heal over 180k hps in an MC 10 on disc

[rustic copper]

You can’t do that and maintain mana

Stop griefing

[gentle nova]

I think its good to do at least for the tranqs

[indigo flume]

right now +10 are harder for me than +14

[rustic copper]

You’ll start deleting your mana on farm walk into next season and go oom at 3 mins

Or you’ll be hooked on ms

[fast burrow]

this stuff was ridiculous xd

[gentle nova]

I wish i had mana

[indigo flume]

lol

[gentle nova]

This spec is insane with mana

[rustic copper]

It isn’t

You’re already insane

Stop griefing

[fast burrow]

disc is just fullblown bullshit

shield shield shield shield shield shield shield shield shield shield shield shield shield

[gentle nova]

If you get to spam wg without ooming you just gain 10% hps

And if you can spend mana on sotf rg i bet its more too

[rustic copper]

Ok what if you give your hpal 7 innervates

Thoughts?

[gentle nova]

Lmaoo

[indigo flume]

well i only play resto druid and started on midnight but its kinda funny

[fast burrow]

give my poor disco some innervates, perma oom with how the hell people pull

i miss the days Disc was the only non-mana-eating healer spec

[rustic copper]

Disc is not a good innervate

I mean they’re fine

But it’s not like innervating an hpal

[gentle nova]

All the discs i see end the fight at 30%

[abstract tulip]

It is comical all the other healers are oom and I’m sitting at like 40%

[rustic copper]

Press more wg

[abstract tulip]

The boss usually dies

[fast burrow]

Ever since disc became a FOtM spec, , and easy to play, its been manahungry

[rustic copper]

Get more haste

Cast more spells

Idk

[fast burrow]

aka whenever Oracle becomes meta

[abstract tulip]

My character is peaking right now until tomorrow..