also disc is so fucked if they're going from 3s on atonement to nothing next tier.
#resto
urban kestrel
glossy holly
nah
its old way that whenever a class is busted in m+
it never affected raids
but when raid class is busted, its affecting m+ too
cursed cycle
glossy holly
indeed i didnt play at that time
urban kestrel
we were genuinely the most useless healer on the planet and they ignored it cause of keys
then nerfed our damage too
idk though this journey was basically guaranteed the moment blizz said "lets buff druid mastery through the stratosphere"
urban kestrel
itll still be good everywhere tbh
I'd rather they have nerfed it more and not taken 3% from everywhere
thorn plover
no they should have aura nerfed more and left apex
tulip nexus
yeah idk im more m+ focused
thorn plover
were gonna be back to no apex build
tulip nexus
are you sure
urban kestrel
I dont think so (sadly)
yeah... we caught an aura nerf because they overtuned the apex
glossy holly
there is a bit of a chance
tulip nexus
would be lame as hell
stable zinc
how wild is the nerf on rDruid in the raid guys?
urban kestrel
I think apex will still be about 3% ahead of apex, maybe run apexless on fights where the whole raid is taking very even damage
glossy holly
just pin this nerf math already lmao
urban kestrel
but I hate apex and would rather it die
glossy holly
its only been what 15minutes since the news
oh pardon me 1 hour 15 minutes ago
time sure flies fast
urban kestrel
crazy that they buffed everbloom by >100% to buff us by 8% then nerfed apex and the rest of our kit by 7% to force us into apex
I would've rather just stayed in the old build, but now even it is nerfed
main timber
Yes we do and the last changes are literally in the top pin?
glossy holly
fresh 1,5 week noob
thorn plover
lol
fervent mica
can't just go around pinning random guesses... we aren't warlocks
urban kestrel
the actual math is that only the aura nerf counts because everbloom does infinite over heal hps and nerfing it does nothing :^)
lavish ledge
what i dont understand is the person in charge of druid. They want us to be good on raid, but then hate it when we are good in raid. Like bruh make up your mind
glossy holly
their math is not mathing
lavish ledge
cuz there no way to stop us from being good on M+ unless they destroy the class
glossy holly
like they dont even know how to properly balance uhdk stuff
lavish ledge
their math is not mathing
they using that new math which as 20 step to complete something like 50 divided by 5
fervent mica
how cooked is rdruid after reset
not as cooked as belo
west topaz
like they dont even know how to properly balance uhdk stuff
dk discord is uproar again in there, it's slowmoded. my god
west topaz
it's actually a nothingburger this time anyway, it was overbuffed aoe and then nerfed a lil, nbd
really isn't much, still will do well
glossy holly
plagued by dmg bugs and then nerfed after some were fixed
west topaz
bit of a st hit in raid but still ok, literally a wee bit
proper geyser
Druid devs strike again! Yay Druid buffs….
abstract tulip
i liked what they did with the teir tokens this xpac though
bold grail
On a scale of 1-10, 10 being Diana Russini type shame, how ashamed should I be of only doing like 5k dps on 15+ keys?
urban kestrel
its w/e's healer dps on aoe is a joke, but you should be owning shit on bosses
bold grail
I feel like bad things happen when i start dps'ing
half star
May 5th Tuning: Link
- All healing reduced by 3%
- Everbloom heals for 20%/40% of Lifebloom's bloom healing (down from 25%/50%)
The Apex and aura nerfs add up to a combined 6-7% in raid and a little less in Mythic+. We'll still be very good in both.
No talent changes based on the changes.
urban bone
I feel like my dps is stronger on aoe rn with the bugged starfire
urban kestrel
We'll still be very good in both.
glossy holly
I feel like bad things happen when i start dps'ing
with pugs, this is definitely true
pliant mist
I feel like my dps is stronger on aoe rn with the bugged starfire
Same
urban bone
It’s almost a whole 8%
deft aurora
Yeah, and 8% is basically 9.
urban bone
May as well roundup to 10
sly pivot
7% gg gonna go get my fists ready
urban kestrel
they really let there be a whole 2 weeks of this patch where mw wasn't the best healer
can you believe it?
gotta nerf disc and druid immediately
proper geyser
My favorite comment so far on wowhead for Druid buffs
cedar moon
where is everyone spending their bonus rolls
urban kestrel
nexus point or mythic alleria
cedar moon
right, myth ring would be nice
urban kestrel
if you do no raiding windrunner is an ok place to look too for trinkets
and ofc mythic lura but like, yeah...
cedar moon
i have myth gaze and hero ribbon, we're not on alleria yet
distant birch
Alleria is probably the biggest bang for your buck
distant birch
right, myth ring would be nice
its ring, bis chest, very good/bis weapon
idk what weapon is considered bis but that one is probably pretty close
cedar moon
i do have myth chest too
oak garnet
If you don't have myth gaze and you aren't in a guild you trolling if you don't send on m chim
cedar moon
and am rolling the 285 crafted weapon for now, don't see myself spending more crests on spark crafts for another embelishment so it feels good
can the rolls on aleria give the neck?
oak garnet
2 weeks of rolls is 50% shot at bis trinket which will be second item you upgrade with ascendant cores altho idk how soon after your first you get a second
gentle nova
If you don't have myth gaze and you aren't in a guild you trolling if you don't ...
Sending on alleria is better
gentle nova
can the rolls on aleria give the neck?
Yup
oak garnet
Yeah if you raid
cedar moon
oh yeah i want that haste and mastery haha
oak garnet
Hard to pug m alleria tho I'd wager
distant birch
and am rolling the 285 crafted weapon for now, don't see myself spending more cr...
Depends on what else you can spend crests on
for me weapon upgrade was definitely worth the crests
cedar moon
have the chest sitting waiting to be crested up
and 4 rolls waiting to be sent
distant birch
Yeah with 4 rolls you can probably get plenty of items
thorn plover
**May 5th Tuning:** [Link](<https://www.wowhead.com/blue-tracker/topic/us/class-...
🐐
obsidian peak
hmm I just now realized germination rejuvs count for abundance...
west topaz
7% isnt much?
i wasnt talking about rdudu in that context
thorn plover
I was hoping for cat buffs personally
urban kestrel
cat is great at like keys and 1 of 9 bosses
cloud moss
does it affect m+ much
urban kestrel
but at least its the most important boss that cat is good at
cloud moss
like we could feel it in high keys
urban kestrel
also holy crap boomy is going to just giga gap every other class at new bird
80s of egg phase and in incarn for 60s of it
hard loom
how we feel about the resto druid nerfs team
inner sonnet
how we feel about the resto druid nerfs team
sell, sell, sell, immediately pivot to a new class and dont look back, the end times are nigh
hard loom
eh, i think the everbloom nerf was warranted, but not the 3% overall healing nerf lol
urban kestrel
just go mw they'll probably be on top for another 4 months+ anyways
yeah im in that same boat
also the disc change just feels like caving into weird community pressure
buffing atonement by 5% in dungeon just cause people are mad about voidweaver being more shit than it already was
storm estuary
Why would they buff resto just to nerf it , are they stupid ?
urban kestrel
meanwhile raid atonement is like nerfed by 30% from release in raid now
marsh prism
no
stiff ruin
can i LOS the glaves in Magister's TErrace
hard loom
nah not dooming
just questioning the 3% overall nerf
but i saw it coming as soon as the buff came out, fun detected
stiff ruin
is it a big nerf?
grizzled kayak
3% all healing
thorn plover
check pins
small wolf
Hey guys do yall have tips for seat of triumvirate tentacle boss? Is it just me or does incap roar not CC the tentacles
unique sedge
Is it mw reroll angle? 🤣
high hawk
called it. fuckin MW man
unique sedge
Do mws really just spin and heal ?
thorn plover
Pretty much
vocal sage
I mean… before this tuning we are/were pretty ridiculous in raid
Yeah, less so, but yeah.
vocal sage
It seemed pretty overtuned to me I think this will be sweet spot
I want high numbers to be an expression of skill not just gifted and this will probably be closer to that
cloud moss
Hey guys do yall have tips for seat of triumvirate tentacle boss? Is it just me ...
you don’t have to cc the tentacles just heal through it
small wolf
Haha somehow I can't keep up with it very sad 🙁
unique sedge
If u cc the tentacles, they might cast 2 or 3 on the same person and it can be an instant death
small wolf
Ok so the tentacles are more or less a heal check haha?o
thorn plover
trying to cc them is just a waste of globals that you could be healing with instead
small wolf
Ok thanks guys 🙂
thorn plover
just spread hots and spam regrowth
not much more to it than that
lifebloom yourself or someone squishy there
i like self
cloud moss
idk bout the really high keys tho only done 18
small wolf
I saved convoke and trink for that ohase but ppl still tumble haha
Gotcha
LOL I'm only at 16 , cooked
thorn plover
make sure you got hots on the people theyre targeting
that shouldnt be the hard part
lol
rigid mirage
**May 5th Tuning:** [Link](<https://www.wowhead.com/blue-tracker/topic/us/class-...
will this change any of our playstyle?
with lb on us
urban kestrel
not really
still optimal to set lb on self for slightly more mastery value/photo blooms
half star
Nah - need to do more math on apex vs non-apex build but nothing else really changes
cloud moss
self lb for raids right?
half star
Yes, generally speaking
urban kestrel
only real reason to not lb self is if you're not doing paladins heal absorbs ( you have a permanent 40% self-heal amp and you're inting if you're not), or to put it on a melee in cosmos p2, or lura seeds
maybe dragons if you're doing 2 tanks? does anyone do that?
gentle nova
Nah you lose so much healing on apex by not lbing self
unique sedge
Btw whats the diminishing return for mastery. Is it that worth to double rejuv ppl ?
urban kestrel
idk mang, those 2 or 3 melee on crown get fucking destroyed
thorn plover
urban kestrel
I know random spells and wildstalker roots prefer us, but is the splash healing from EB affected by all of our dumb heal amps?
unique sedge
I feel like it is affected cuz it heals so much more when i have LB , but i dont have math or proof
urban kestrel
yeah it hasnt even been out long enough that I've cared to test it
idk in general I just cant believe how tanky druid is rn
druid and priest both feel crazy when I compare myself to how littly my guildies have
but at least priest has an excuse when I look at how they literally cant move
but also I would kill to have evoker/mw mobility so it's fair I guess
covered dragons prog for a friends guild as mw and jfc
gentle nova
I know random spells and wildstalker roots prefer us, but is the splash healing ...
Wdym
The splash is affected because its based of the bloom healing
So yeah
urban kestrel
like if I trigger a bloom with forestwalk running? ok yeah I thought it copied the whole thing but hadnt actually checked
gentle nova
If you have 24% perma from forestwalk and talents and then 2+ blooms for mastery + 40%+ from vig creepers its a lot of increase on the bloom therefore the splash
Thats the whole reason we play ws
urban kestrel
idk man I just pick one some pulls and pick the other some pulls and see which makes more number
then stick with that
gentle nova
Barkskin also makes blooms stronger
marsh bronze
if we did run no apex build we would go back to keeper of the grove right? so part of the calculation of apex vs no apex would have to include the throughput of each hero talent tree. I wonder what the % throughput from each hero talent tree would be, and if that would impact our choice
gentle nova
if we did run no apex build we would go back to keeper of the grove right? so pa...
Ws was better numbers even before apex changes
Kotg is more burst
marsh bronze
ah ok
peak charm
If you have 24% perma from forestwalk and talents and then 2+ blooms for mastery...
perm forest walk, wat are u casting rg on yourself ever 5 seconds?
gentle nova
Why yourself?
hazy spoke
With new tuning, is apex still the best? Or are we apex-less again in raid?
gentle nova
It procs off any casts
thorn plover
might wanna read forest walk again
peak charm
It procs off any casts
ant cast?
thorn plover
With new tuning, is apex still the best? Or are we apex-less again in raid?
we dont know yet
my vibemath says it will still be apex but not by much
woven mango
Basically same talents be ran on reset im guessing?
thorn plover
youll be safe with the same talents
gentle nova
In this log
Apex is 19.5
With the nerf itll go down to 15.5
Thats on pair with no apex
thorn plover
In this log
that seems low end for apex tho
urban kestrel
idk though I think people will stick to apex since it's just a lot less effort for similar outcome
thorn plover
looking through my paladins logs im consistently 23-24%
urban kestrel
also because it encourages the player to make themselves invincible
proven phoenix
I played through all of lura with apex, I am not swapping off even if its slightly worse
thorn plover
drops to 18.5
proven phoenix
if its equal to no apex im especially not swapping off because apex lb is insane for crystal healing
hollow gyro
I played through all of lura with apex, I am not swapping off even if its slight...
Goat behavior
grizzled kayak
is the 3% healing going to set us behind meta for m+? idk 3% doesnt seem like much
indigo flume
In this log
do you lifebloom yourself for entire fight?
gentle nova
Yup
marsh prism
I played through all of lura with apex, I am not swapping off even if its slight...
yeah im done
especially what
points go into like embrace or whatever ok so the spell youre already casting less of
fuck it just rip through
gentle nova
that seems low end for apex tho
The % depends on the overall hps
gentle nova
Probably but not sure about apex 4
thorn plover
Apex 4 was 8% iirc
gentle nova
Apex 4 did 6.84 on my log
thorn plover
Yeah that tracks
urban kestrel
I dont care if it's kinda fake healing, I will do the infinite self-hps until I start to care again next tier
random nimbus
Man we got to be strong for 1 week… why does blizzard hate us
gentle nova
Its going down to 5.44
urban kestrel
and I will eat 50 balls on beloren and do a lura crystal
gentle nova
Afyer nerf. And i can take 1 min voke
thorn plover
What do you take that's 5.44% tho
gentle nova
1 min voke and 2 tv
thorn plover
I already have both those
gentle nova
You drop nb? Xd
gentle nova
Apex in my log wouldve done 15.5% after nerf.
And apex 4 is 5.5
If i keep phosy apex will do 10 but ill get 1 min voke and 2 tv
Seems good trade
thorn plover
Voulks right they shoulda went bigger aura and not touched apex
thorn plover
Yep
gentle nova
Even at 15.5 non apex will still be the same hps
And u get to keep tree for movement
thorn plover
Do you go back kotg then if back to refo
robust badge
@marsh prism 
gentle nova
Idk
thorn plover
Gross
obsidian pivot
can i LOS the glaves in Magister's TErrace
No
marsh prism
<@182822227417235456> <a:treedance:468152877274365962>
sorry to every single person who was just notified that im no longer giga busy
rip to my dms
urban kestrel
I honestly have no clue how many of my blooms are from photo vs r4 apex
but I assume like 15-21 less blooms per minute is bad
I would at least imagine you want all 4 ranks if you take any
rigid mirage
i really fuckin hope we dont play treant tree
urban kestrel
21 is like on the very high end of convoke and renewing surge throughput
I kinda like kotg, I really dig dryad ironbark laser and doing 25% more healing after convoke
but idk I would just nuke or heavily design both hero trees, they both feel so fucking passive and meaningless
at least it's a little better than like mw where one tree has the class's main cd and the other has fuck all
hard loom
eww i dont wanna go back to refo
urban kestrel
I mean, if you don't like refo, then you definitely just stick to apex right/
cause at that point you're losing it just for 2/2TV and embrace.
and like? swapping out swiftmend healing for the wild growth talent?
idk I was never totally sold on that 4th talent point, nothing felt great for that one
there's like 3 really good points when you drop apex with 2/2 TV, embrace, and refo then you just like do something with the alst one
whether it's drop swiftmend bonus for WG unstoppable growth or like throw it in some other random 1.5-2.5% hps talent
gentle nova
I honestly have no clue how many of my blooms are from photo vs r4 apex
About 1/3 from apex 4
Just count sm casts
urban kestrel
huh that's like surprisingly linear value
especially since I feel like I waste a lot of those ones anyways cause I'm just trying to swiftmend as much as possible
gentle nova
Well it accounts to 1/3 of eb healing
Roughly
Looking at 3 logs
Its gonna be a 5% pt after nerf
Refo can be 5
urban kestrel
refo can be a 10% talent if you're as bad at movement as I am
my main concern is I feel like with apex we're doing a hell of a lot of fake self-hps, and maybe that's a better reason to play apexless, but also if they keep just putting 2M heal absorbs in every other fight...
restive marsh
Is there any way to check the dungeon history of an applicant on queue?
Like how good have they been doing lately?
grizzled kayak
Like how good have they been doing lately?
warcraftlogs
gentle nova
But that only tells me the highest keys they've done, no?
Nah
You can check last runs
And if it was deplete or no
restive marsh
how
inner sonnet
how
either expand the dungeon drop down menu at the bottom or check their "verified loadouts" drop down on their profile
slender laurel
I’m sure it hasn’t be calculated but does anybody know how much of a nerf we’re supposed to get ?
hard loom
Feels bad man
chrome storm
So are the nerfs bad for Rdruid for 12.0.7 I’m scared to look
chrome storm
Are they bad 🥹
inner sonnet
6-7% is bad no matter how you look at it, but we' are still gonna be good
chrome storm
Why are they doing this 😒
inner sonnet
dw about it just reroll monk
chrome storm
I don’t like monk lol
gentle nova
67
hard loom
Always will
zealous hill
chrome storm
So is the changes going to be noticeable?
pulsar kettle
inner sonnet
So is the changes going to be noticeable?
about a 6-7% difference id wager
gentle nova
Its ok guys we will do 235k instead of 250k now
pulsar kettle
mattiu
hard loom
Is it okay
pulsar kettle
these guys dont do 250k
hard loom
Is it
pulsar kettle
its joever for these sprouts
gentle nova
Oh im sorry guys
chrome storm
So MW nerf when lol?
hard loom
Im gonna swap to DoC for raid
marsh prism
and also brocc
half star
It’s easier on the mental to think of it as we’ll still be stronger next week than we were before the patch
marsh prism
REAL
hard loom
My brain doesnt work like that though
inner sonnet
its just easier to play the game for the enjoyment
marsh prism
ok well you can also think of it like you already werent playing at 100% efficiency anyway so in all likelihood you still have room and hps to improve anyway (which is a buff to you personally)
hard loom
Whoa, enjoyment?
pulsar kettle
hmm
half star
and also brocc
Ratcare
gentle nova
Joever for him
gentle nova
Ya
P4 is fake tho
So ill say alleria hps is the most non fake
Paladins fake, beloren is a joke
P4 lura is fake
calm elk
I'm struggle with spot healing in 16 17 key, like the ravager in AA, if dps dont use defensive, I just cannot top him up in time, any advice for spothealing?
I'm at 277 ilv btw
half star
It’s okay they’re apparently going to be doing 5-7% buff nerfs every single week to multiple specs a week so we’ll be alright
half star
Down one week up the next ez
restive marsh
either expand the dungeon drop down menu at the bottom or check their "verified ...
Ah it shows only completed runs, right? not abandoned ones.
inner sonnet
not abandoned ones no but untimeds
restive marsh
not abandoned ones no but untimeds
Right, that's good enough
restive marsh
theres an abandoned runs module
But I check myself and I voted to abandon a run like 1 hour ago but it doesn't show up
I think that's for ragequitters
hearty coral
none of you were running raider io possibly
inner sonnet
addon data is only refreshed every 8h or so (non-prem)
hearty coral
that too
inner sonnet
could be that
restive marsh
none of you were running raider io possibly
You mean like the addon? or is there a way to log runs like wclogs?
hearty coral
i think if you have the addon in game or desktop either way that info gets grabbed
and most groups you do are gonna have at least one person
having it
im not 100% on how that works or if they can just grab that info from blizz api
frozen prairie
Nice. Only small ish nerf. We survived.
hardy canopy
you're supposed to doom fyi
restive marsh
i think if you have the addon in game or desktop either way that info gets grabb...
Apparently it's premium only? that could be it
sonic birch
6/6 Champion Ribbon vs 6/6 Hero Coach Whistle
hearty coral
Apparently it's premium only? that could be it
that premium only for specific levels
all the info is there
you can check entire season
without premium
rocky lodge
should i be dooming about rdruid nerfs
proven phoenix
nah
rocky lodge
we ride the wave, i will never be caught rerolling
silk fulcrum
how do i best use hotw for damage in keys? in moonkin in aoe and cat ST?
hardy canopy
cat st always
stable verge
Is regenesis worth taking over lifetreading?
worthy phoenix
Hey all, never really shared logs before so if there is a better way to do this or if you would want the full link to it please lmk, but figured I could share more info on my play than just generally asking "fuck this elemental please give help". Just finished a 15 Algethar (thankfully timed) and am continuing to get my everloving ass beat in by Veximus, iirc we had three deaths on the attempt with a shammy ankh.
Kind of just wanted a quick glance to see if anything stood out as blatantly wrong, I know there's only so much that can be gleamed from a quick glance at the logs. Had two convoke casts iirc, doesn't represent convoke itself but what convoke casted in the logs I believe?
marsh prism
Is regenesis worth taking over lifetreading?
no
stable verge
Ty
snow umbra
Is that magnitude of nerf justified? Doing a bit of napkin math it looks like MW and Pres will be back on top after the nerfs?
restive marsh
that premium only for specific levels
I see, it's weird it won't show my abandoned runs, maybe I just gotta wait.
topaz nest
Hey all, never really shared logs before so if there is a better way to do this ...
link the log, hard to give specific actionable advice without it but from a glance your lifebloom usage is illegally bad, it should be 100% uptime and it's at 33%
Lb uptime feeds efflo, splashes onto teammates with everbloom and Blooms a whole bunch of times when you press swiftmend with it up
Idk if it's hyperbole to say that you're losing 40% hps off that alone
worthy phoenix
link the log, hard to give specific actionable advice without it but from a glan...
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/GZM3Kq8bn694pPXk?fight=last&phase=1&type=healing&source=3
that is very fair lmao, yeah that is god awful. I recognize I have a tendancy to tunnel on Rejuv/Regrowth when I'm feeling panicked and that is definitely demonstrated in the Lifebloom uptime. I wish I was able to have it tracked separately, much larger than the other things being tracked by the Cooldown Manager
Not to say that it would make no difference, I struggle to believe that it would singlehandedly resolve the issues I'm dealing with regarding the Puddles + Knockback aoe nuke, that's the one that really wrecks me
topaz nest
yeah you're pressing rejuv infinitely too much
The only hard overlap in the fight is mana void popping on 3 people -> Fissure nuke as you identified, where you most likely should have sm + rg timed for when mana voids pop, then rip a wg+convoke or wg+ ns regrowth during the run
Voids pop -> top them with sm rg -> wg as boss starts fissure channel -> convoke or ns rg while moving
sacred wasp
I'm struggle with spot healing in 16 17 key, like the ravager in AA, if dps dont...
bait it onto yourself
stack hots on yourself, be the furthest away from it and it'll target you 100% of the time
indigo flume
do we always want LB on ourselves in raid?
fervent mica
yuh
topaz nest
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/GZM3Kq8bn694pPXk?fight=last&phase=1&type=he...
Also leave lb on either dps or yourself in this fight, idk why you're swiftmending tank at all when vexamus barely hurts the tank in this encounter unless they do degen 4/5 ball soaks at which point they should be using personals
worthy phoenix
yeah you're pressing rejuv infinitely too much
Rejuv is my default spam while moving so my casts are probably a little inflated on that, but fair to keep in mind.
I get what you're saying with those three big nuke combos, but I am struggling with execution timing on them I suppose, the window between the pop->fissure is like four seconds and I have difficulties getting all three targets up in time without Convoke available. It realistically is a practice-diff, but it feels bad when my practice comes in increments of one pull per 25+ minutes at the risk of someone else's key lol
vocal hinge
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/GZM3Kq8bn694pPXk?fight=last&phase=1&type=he...
boy do we have the addon for you https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/lifebloomalert
worthy phoenix
Also leave lb on either dps or yourself in this fight, idk why you're swiftmendi...
keeping tank maxed with all of my hps stuff at all times is a bad habit I taught myself while leveling and doing low keys at the start of the season that I've been trying to wax myself off of, I generally default to putting Lifebloom + Regrowth + Double Rejuv on tank and trying to keep as much uptime on them as possible with Swiftmend.
Figuring out how to actually optimize LB is the next big thing for me I think
worthy phoenix
boy do we have the addon for you https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/lifebloom...
oh my god, fucking bless
vocal hinge
also m33kauras if you want to download a weakaura fork
topaz nest
If you're struggling that hard with mana void you can ramp rejuv, wg then tranq a set and the hot extension should carry over past the pop into the fissure
worthy phoenix
also m33kauras if you want to download a weakaura fork
I've seen some stuff about m33k but I never got big into using WA during DF or TWW so I'm honestly not sure what all I'm missing out on
topaz nest
I think the absolute best thing you can do based on that log is press lb way more
vocal hinge
oh i mean lifebloom alert on it's own is good enough
topaz nest
And extend it with swiftmend
vocal hinge
weakauras if u had lb weakauras before and maybe u want them back
worthy phoenix
If you're struggling that hard with mana void you can ramp rejuv, wg then tranq ...
The talent setup I'm using isn't speccing into Flourish (the extender), but I like that conceptually
topaz nest
Find whatever addon or setting you need to facilitate you remembering to press lb even if it's a big ass square right in the middle of your screen covering your character and showing a dancing tree
woven mango
worthy phoenix
we are so back
vocal hinge
topaz nest
nice now that your lb uptime is going to be 100% you should be made aware that moving it around too much is really bad too
Bc it loses its stacks
worthy phoenix
Referring to the Apex? Sure, that makes sense. Do you have any tips on how to best prioritize LB targets for someone who has kind of been absentmindedly slapping it on the tank for the most wildstalker triggers?
topaz nest
on packs you can probably get away with keeping it on tank most of the time but if there's a lot of party damage, either you (self has a lot of selfhealing amps which translates into party healing via everbloom) or squishiest ally is the right choice
hard to give general rules past that, you gotta learn what does dmg in dungeons to who
calm elk
is rotation LB worth it to lose 3 stacks?
worthy phoenix
for sure, Tank >= Me > Paper Mage/Aug is a good enough starting point for me to get to work with it though. I appreciate you taking a look at the logs and walking me through some obvious improvement points I should be looking for
topaz nest
if you're playing an aug comp I'm pretty sure the default target is Aug or mage bc their defensives suck ass
worthy phoenix
lmao I had the read, yeah
sly pivot
Long time restos, what’s it like playing the spec in worlds where it’s not number 1. (Thinking like DF S2 where bear and hpal were kings). Still easy to get groups because of healer queue?
worthy phoenix
Attempted a 16 WS earlier with an Aug and it was kind of miserable ngl
might've been a better attempt if I had some of the knowledge I do now though so here's to my next runs with it tomorrow. Appreciate all the help again, hope y'all have a nice night 
topaz nest
can reduce insane amounts of healing req in WS by using stops properly, stops on birds/axe throwers when fire nova overlap and clearing debuffs early on last boss actually reduce key difficulty by like 3 levels
worthy phoenix
can respond to that rq before I shutdown; when it comes to stops, our only solution for those is Cyclone iirc, yeah? Otherwise it's praying on dps?
topaz nest
incap roar then ursol +typhoon is another
Ursol typhoon has the benefit of stacking axethrowers too
If you're a tauren you can war stomp, then after that it's probably reliant on your dps
Soothe is good after they enrage too, if you're running with brew or bear you can deal with both immediately after enrage
All your focus towards third boss ws and during the fight should be on minimizing axe throws and making sure they're not lining up with other party dmg
worthy phoenix
Think Typhoon is the one I meant, the aoe knock-back, not the pick-up one, my bad. Also still working on learning what Roar stops and what it doesn't, thats a work in progress
How does the Typhoon Ursol interaction work? Am entirely unfamiliar with that
topaz nest
Ursol pulls them back to the center if they move out -> typhoon moves them out so they snap back to the center of ursol cast, nicely stacked up for your dps
Call it a poor man's death grip
versed hemlock
Careful with that, though. It could sync some nasty mobs in certain pulls.
worthy phoenix
Oh, that's clever, cool. I've had Ursol on my bar forever but I have struggled to find actual uses for it, will keep that in mind
topaz nest
yeah be a little wary with doing that, there are packs where resetting mob swings with that combo will global your tank if you do it without warning
WS is thankfully not one of them
If you're the greatest planner in the world you could also catform, save up some combo points and maim an axe thrower
ain't nobody doing that tho
slow pasture
Maim ?
topaz nest
maim confirmed goated on last boss skyreach
thorn whale
💀
topaz nest
not as goated as having hoj for every single one tho
slow pasture
Oh yeah Maim. Sorry i don’t remember all english spell name
thorn whale
Don’t take maim 😂
tough portal
Don’t take maim 😂
Why not
Nothing else to take
It's nice
Yeah meld rake is better but 2 min cd
topaz nest
need to see someone send meld rake into maim on axethrowers bc they're getting a Nobel prize
outer stone
thoughts on upcoming nerf?
tough portal
Why not
You can comfortably put up Rip and build back 5 combo points during the laser beam part where nobody is taking damage. There's legit nothing else particularly valuable to pick.
tough portal
thoughts on upcoming nerf?
Fair enough
outer stone
yeah kinda bummed but it makes sense
smoky sail
Honestly was expecting them to go harder on the apex nerf
Was expecting them to bring it to the 30% we had before .5
knotty goblet
Probably still a net buff from .0
sly pivot
Anyone have something similar to purrformance lifebloom alert for swift mend?
I tried CDM alert but it’s so much louder and I hate it
dense lantern
who the fuck is responsible for class tuning
is it Mr. Claudio Codi
I want their names
unborn sand
Its not like we still wont be the best m+ healer
pulsar jewel
We dont only heal m+
sly pivot
Phys comp go brrr
dense lantern
I'm not talking about resto specifically
pulsar jewel
The guardian changes are atrocious however 😂
dense lantern
Resto was arguably a bit too good and it's w/e but my point is that it looks like no one has absolutely any idea of how to approach tuning this season
sly pivot
Brew - Arms - Feral - Outlaw - RSham stonks
unborn sand
Resto was arguably a bit too good and it's w/e but my point is that it looks lik...
True
dense lantern
buff 5
hmmm buff 5 again
no wtf too strong nerf 15
no wait buff 5...
pulsar jewel
sly pivot
It’s nicer to get small incremental buffs than a big buff and a nerf after
knotty goblet
Prot pally +10% armor 
tough portal
The guardian changes are atrocious however 😂
They're great wdym
I look forward to playing much more guardian
pulsar jewel
The problem has always been the apex talents and guardians burst, its sustain is shite
tough portal
Ok so they nerf the apex talent and buff the sustained damage
Did we read the same patch notes?
pulsar jewel
They buffed mangle, nerfed everything else including the apex
tough portal
It tackles exactly the problematic design part of the spec and nerfs it in situations like Lura while being a minimal numeric change in M+
pulsar jewel
Just nerf the apex and start there
pulsar jewel
Sorry thrash not mangle
knotty goblet
Resto was arguably a bit too good and it's w/e but my point is that it looks lik...
The flip-flopping on MM hunter is beyond laughable imo :/
pulsar jewel
I would argue you only needed to nerf the echo, not nerf the rest
tough portal
Anybody remotely miffed about this guardian tuning really is telling on themselves
urban kestrel
idk I think id be ok with them nerfing the echos more and default raze less
but also if they nerf echo by much more than 25% then you just skip it
tough portal
How do you say it's lazy when you wanted LESS of a change?
urban kestrel
I mean the whole saga of them last minute buffing bear apex by 300% a week before xpac release was lazy
tough portal
Just nerf the apex and start there
You wanted them to change less, so they changed MORE and you say it's lazy
Make it make sense
pulsar jewel
I’ve always wanted less power tied into guardians incarn window
So they’ve transferred a load of power into thrash, does it achieve that? Yes
urban kestrel
I mean thats what the df rework was, just then bear became a 2min too
pulsar jewel
But did we need 3 sets of nerfs then whatever this is to make thrash no1 press now?
We shall see - how does this effect shields? Will it get nerfed next week?
tough portal
limpid jacinth
Long-shot but does anyone in NA have an alt group or something running MChim this weekend? Havent raided at all so far this tier but want my Gaze so I tried pugging today and non-CE groups are… rough. I know mechs/am capable of pushing buttons, just lack CE.
My guild’s team is taking me on Tues but I’d love a voidcore use before then.
dense lantern
Long-shot but does anyone in NA have an alt group or something running MChim thi...
You probably want to specify the region
urban kestrel
the thrash shield got buffed by about as much as the raze shield got nerfed I think? still a big nerf to their raid st/add burst
but imo the biggest issue with bear is that the guides are horrible and not telling people to pick up middle talents and basically running a raid build in keys
they'd be a really solid 2nd place in dungeons instead of a distant 2nd
thorn whale
Why not
Honestly you're right, you can just take out starfire
You lose frenzied regen tho if u were playing that
not that I am
limpid jacinth
You probably want to specify the region
U r very smart. Thanks ❤️
urban kestrel
its too late M chim is unpuggable unless you are a prot paladin, lock, dk, or shaman.
(even the CE pugs are that stinky, the best I've found is 3 wipes with mandatory voice)
urban kestrel
I've done it every week on some char or another but it feels like it's getting harder.
other weeks it was like an hour but you'd get closer and get it, this week I had to just give up and bail on 2 pugs then find a good one
indigo flume
i mean if someone leave after bad pull then its 50/50 either only 1 person leave or domino where half of raid is gone
limpid jacinth
like, I don’t mean to be a jerk but, if I’ve literally never seen the fight and then step in and am doing triple the hps of another healer… that’s not good.
I haven’t raided in over a year.
It’s an ez fight.
urban kestrel
yeah that's about how any pug raid goes if you're concious of playing the game at all
it's super easy and then you're feared and die
the worst is if you're asked to play boomy or spriest.
(2 kicks in the whole add phase pog)
actually spriest kinda owns if your pug has good dam (just spam shackle)
indigo flume
well 1 time i had healer who said they know how to do madness(he was in group with me) and when i got madness debuff he went to swap me 💀
indigo flume
idk how this works but because of that both of us were outside
leaving our group with no healer
i didnt even know its possible
urban kestrel
yeah it stuns and transfers everyone in like 5 yards of you
indigo flume
other time i had tank who went other side on intermission
killing us all
i did 34% parse and was almost top 1 healer there
urban kestrel
I had a dps dk manage to live tanking the big add with some externals once (unfortunately not the kill), but that grp at least got the kill later
slow smelt
man do I have to go mw now in keys because pugs wont invite rdrus anymore
urban kestrel
yeah idk how you even parse on chim unless you're carrying like 3 50k hps randos
it feels like theres just no healing
and 3 healing it sounds like a logistics nightmare
indigo flume
i was assigned to second consume healing
so in the end other druid got healing
i just used tranq for fun
urban kestrel
theres only really 3 consumes but you can still tranq consume 2 and 3
they're just far enough apart for it
it*
limpid jacinth
man do I have to go mw now in keys because pugs wont invite rdrus anymore
Honestly, Resto Sham is the better shout
indigo flume
and i was just keeping it on tank
im new to healing so yeah
now i know to keep LB on myself
slow smelt
Honestly, Resto Sham is the better shout
that sounds dreadful tbh I never liked playing around healing raid totem
limpid jacinth
that sounds dreadful tbh I never liked playing around healing raid totem
I don’t like it either. Just a lot of people in 20s either trying to run Phys comp or UDK+DDH+Demo.
slow smelt
im close to finishing resi 20 on druid reroll will be pain
indigo flume
im having hard time doing my first 15
im getting 2x shadow bolt to my face every run because no interupts
or dps just get hit by big circle projectile
urban kestrel
my least part of healing the few hard keys ive really done this season is just how some dps classes genuinely feel like they're immortal and others feel like they're playing something 5 key levels higher
odd rapids
Is it actually better to raid heal as wildstalker than KOTG?
urban kestrel
like I just did an 18 algethar and my job appeared to be to heal the hunter
cause apparently dh and dk and brew dont even need a healer
indigo flume
i got resil 14 and did only like 3 15 keys and didnt time single of them
i gave up lowkey
limpid jacinth
Is it actually better to raid heal as wildstalker than KOTG?
Yes.
urban kestrel
Is it actually better to raid heal as wildstalker than KOTG?
for the most part, it was already pretty good last patch and with the apex setup it's insane, the main benefits of kotg is just the burst from having like 5 trees up after convoke and the extra cd on convoke.
indigo flume
in raid do you guys wait with soul of the forest to heal when raid is +- full hp or use it right away to spread hots?
tough portal
for the most part, it was already pretty good last patch and with the apex setup...
Yeah but honestly they just last such a short time rn this burst window is barely better than WS with Root Network stacks too. And we dont peak burst healing like that anymore anyways outside of Tranq
hard loom
Yeah im struggling in 15s-16s aswell. In that weird spot where dps just dont seem to know what really needs kicked or when to use defensives properly. Have 2 rejuv a wg and a regrowth on them they get 1 shot and still say "healer???"
indigo flume
i often have 4 hots on whole party and they somehow die, then i watch some top druids play 20 keys and they rarely have 2 hots on someone
slow smelt
It's the general problem when you get behind the "curve" you start to play with worse players
wind night
flint jetty
once i have trinkets, should i in general keep my loot specialization to balance for better chance at other items; i guess i can swap it per M+
slow smelt
As long as you play well you should be able to get out of this hellhole eventually but I know how terrible it feels
urban kestrel
in raid do you guys wait with soul of the forest to heal when raid is +- full hp...
just keep sending the swiftmend on cd. blooming frenzy is good, but not losing 40s of rejuvs and lifeblooms good.
indigo flume
so basically just spam on cd even if raid is full hp? also if i keep LB on me i assume i should switfmend myself to extend?
urban kestrel
yeah for the most part, you can feel free to send it on someone else, especially if they're low hp, but for the most part just keep extending the hots on yourself for abundance/lb refresh value
flint jetty
last i read, i was told to siftmend on CD on the lifebloom target and then use the next heal proc on rejuv
indigo flume
also does it matter who do i proc soul of the forest on? like do i use hots on myself with soul or i can do someone else?
flint jetty
maybe theres a time to hit regrowth instead
urban kestrel
Yeah but honestly they just last such a short time rn this burst window is barel...
yeah, idk I do feel like there's like maybe 1 damage event in some fights I was getting with that extra sliding convoke window, but I do really have to say that wildstalker is just so good I can't figure out if that's bad at all (and I played ws on alleria before the patch even).
thorn whale
also does it matter who do i proc soul of the forest on? like do i use hots on m...
You don't proc SOTF on people
The apex heal procs around you
Or whoever has LB on
indigo flume
so it doesnt matter who do i reju with soul forest?
thorn whale
Nope
thorn whale
it doesn't even matter who you swiftmend
flint jetty
just slap rejuv
thorn whale
(even tho you want to want to SM yourself in raid to extend LB)
tough portal
last i read, i was told to siftmend on CD on the lifebloom target and then use t...
Perma SOTF on REjuv is a raid thing
pearl oyster
is there a way to track the uptime duration remaining on trinkets with the new ui restrictions?
dense lantern
With addons - yes
flint jetty
Perma SOTF on REjuv is a raid thing
whats the play for M+ ?
indigo flume
i often use soul on regrowth when i see few very low hp people with nature swift
dense lantern
EQOL has the option
pearl oyster
thanks
tough portal
Any CD manager addon can yeah
dense lantern
Other CDMs have the option too
golden pulsar
what would you guys say a 13 maisara overall hps should be around? I forgot to log mine <.<
tough portal
Between 60 and 120k
dense lantern
what would you guys say a 13 maisara overall hps should be around? I forgot to l...
Thats a meaningless question
tough portal
You cant heal any more than the group took in damage, so that depends just on the damage taken
golden pulsar
Better question then: How much damage should the dps take if they do their jobb in a maisara 13 ?
xD
flint jetty
so if i got a multitool from NPX, should i skip crafting the aln hara cane entirely?
flint jetty
its a mythic track tool
golden pulsar
i mean we 2 keyed it, so it was not rly a problem just felt like i had to sweat more then i any other key ive ever done.
thorn whale
Yeah then you should just craft 2x Arcanoweave
flint jetty
just got it as i got the crests to craft the cane
so i can either 6/6 it and skip the craft
dense lantern
i mean we 2 keyed it, so it was not rly a problem just felt like i had to sweat ...
The sweating difference comes from the competence difference
of the whole group
flint jetty
but i see that cane is overwhelmingly the top druid healing staff, but maybe thats cause its crafted and season started not long ago?
dense lantern
It's very easy to get a group that does no kicks/aoe stuns or just stands in avoidable damage you didnt know existed
And suddenly it feels harder
dense lantern
but i see that cane is overwhelmingly the top druid healing staff, but maybe tha...
Correct
flint jetty
im not sure when season started
dense lantern
Everyone crafted cane, not many people dropped the NPX wep
flint jetty
i just started playing again last wednesday, so like 9 days now
indigo flume
how do you guys manage mana in raid? i often oom and have to spam wrath for mana
golden pulsar
Corespark Multitool?
hardy junco
lets play without APEX in demonstration against these vile nerf
flint jetty
Everyone crafted cane, not many people dropped the NPX wep
is there any difference in going for a 1h/oh if i got the corespark maxed?
any difference/reason*
fervent mica
wha
tough portal
so i can either 6/6 it and skip the craft
You can/want to use Hero crests to upgrade a Hero item to 6/6 on the slot you have Myth for, this gives you a 20 crest discount to hitting 6/6 Myth, if you can.
spark river
how do you guys manage mana in raid? i often oom and have to spam wrath for mana
Abundance
tough portal
Ofc if you're still gearing up and dont even have items to use every Myth crest on, this isnt meaningful, just send the upgrades
marsh prism
how do you guys manage mana in raid? i often oom and have to spam wrath for mana
post log !
flint jetty
You can/want to use Hero crests to upgrade a Hero item to 6/6 on the slot you ha...
thats good to know, cause i literally didnt know but was lucky that i had a 6/6 hero final grade
tough portal
Yeah so if you can do the same for other slots too. Idk how many hero crests someone gets atp gearing up a new toon or catching up on gear
flint jetty
im actually running thin on hero crests atm
thorn whale
Yeah so if you can do the same for other slots too. Idk how many hero crests som...
Hero crests is the real bottleneck for gearing alts
which is so fking stupid
spark river
Yep you dont regrowth
marsh prism
i assume i spam too much reju
yep
flint jetty
also i donno how trinkets work
indigo flume
ah bad habbit of mine to overspam reju
flint jetty
i guess i gotta have 2 trinkets at the same tier in track upgrades for it to be free for a new trinket?
thorn whale
i guess i gotta have 2 trinkets at the same tier in track upgrades for it to be ...
Yes, same with rings
flint jetty
same with rings probably
indigo flume
so i get 12 abund stacks and when do i stop using regrowth? at like 10 stacks?
flint jetty
kk
spark river
Not really a bad habbit, its more that you dont understand the ramping cycle
flint jetty
which 2 crafted pieces should i go for now that i got the weapon from NPX ?
belt boots?
thorn whale
Yeah I think those are good crafts - Assuming you're coining NPX, you'll most likely get chest
spark river
Ramp to 12 and regrowth until 6
fervent mica
Hero crests is the real bottleneck for gearing alts
the new ritual thing is pretty nice for it. was just spamming rank 5 as quick as possible with 20 per
indigo flume
Ramp to 12 and regrowth until 6
when i have 6 i apply againt till 12 and repeat over and over?
thorn whale
the new ritual thing is pretty nice for it. was just spamming rank 5 as quick a...
20 hero crests?!
fervent mica
yeah
thorn whale
God damn time to gear some demons
spark river
Yes you cycle
indigo flume
okay thank you very much
spark river
Look for a 1:1 ratio
indigo flume
1 reju = 1 regrowth?
flint jetty
Yeah I think those are good crafts - Assuming you're coining NPX, you'll most li...
got the hero chest from NPX, guess i gotta keep trying for it
indigo flume
okay
flint jetty
i read that bonus rolls remove the loot from the pool of the M+, if i disenchant an item i got from a bonus roll, does it put it back in the pool?
spark river
Getting the most out of abundance is very important
indigo flume
do i want to use innervate early in the fight to use as much as possible?
gaunt willow
Mostly yep
spark river
You want to get most uses out of innervate and to spend it on a ramp
gaunt willow
If you look at llorgs you can see when most use it
spark river
Rejuv and wg are mana heavy
thorn whale
If you look at llorgs you can see when most use it
Which will be just to maximize uses yeah
spark river
The chinese getting 10 innervate 
gaunt willow
Haha
indigo flume
oh i didnt know about this website thanks
gaunt willow
Vrocas is usually a sound llorgs to follow for raid timings
And check for more recent llorgs as most Druids switched from kotg to WS which affected timings a fair bit
indigo flume
alright
sly pivot
i tried MW monk and its not for me
Yeah I think if I play other healers gotta be priest or shaman, casters
Might gear them next
After myth achiev
hard loom
Im up in the air on either resto sham or mistweaver
Dunno what to choose
That or i just go rogue and gear my warlock 🤔 or worse yet start playing feral
The feral discord is unhinged though, scared to go there
sly pivot
Im up in the air on either resto sham or mistweaver
I hear so many good things but idk I just can’t get with the whole spinning crane kick spam
flint jetty
i see that people are making the belt for sure as crafted, but is the boots worth it over the bracers?
i only plan to do M+
indigo flume
@gaunt willow when i see someone have 2x innervate within 15 sec that means other druid buffed them?
gaunt willow
Yep usually from a friendly balance or feral Druid
indigo flume
oh alright
when i have LB on me i want to have as many hots on me as possible right?
gaunt willow
In raid yep your LB target wants 2x rejuv, regrowth hot and wildgrowth hit and then VI them all for a big burst of bloom healing
indigo flume
VI them?
marsh prism
verdant infusion
indigo flume
oh
gaunt willow
Verdant
Infusion
marsh prism
extend their hots with swiftmend
gaunt willow
Extend the hots
gaunt willow
It’s a dumb gameplay at the moment but that’s the deal
Makes the LB target invincible - usually you haha
indigo flume
to apply wildgrowth on myself i must target right?
indigo flume
alright
this llorgs website is great information source
it makes healing so much easier lol
indigo flume
yeah i was often pressing convoke by random and tranq on big aoe
any tips on vorasius phase where he spawn this small bugs?
i often press tranquility when my raid is at like 40% hp but most of the time 1 circle spawn on me and i have to cancel it
opaque nebula
How big is nerf rn?
hard loom
Pre ramp before then and convoke on the move
Get back into position if your not fixated and start regrowthing
Id hold tranq on the next ramp after that once walls break
indigo flume
on this phase when we run from laser?
hard loom
Yes, once your stood still
indigo flume
okay
amber apex
we are so back
How
hardy junco
How big is nerf rn?
its over, we gotta reroll to hpal
indigo flume
one more question on raid thing, do i use wild growth on cd?
opaque nebula
its over, we gotta reroll to hpal
Really?
hardy junco
6-7% pin says in raid, but less in m+, but we're back to where we were pre apex change, and pre apex change we were still BIS
for m+
opaque nebula
We still run apex in raid or?
cerulean stratus
tbd
bright swift
Yes
hardy junco
doublemonk aint a thing, we could be benched if brew falls off tho, monks are really really strong
i'd be more cautious if brew gets rekt
hardy junco
whats dg gg @marsh prism
marsh prism
dreamgrove.gg/resto i havent updated it in a bit since ive been busy but i got yelled at so im doing it
hardy junco
what would we be doin without you ❤️
marsh prism
playing kotg doc
sly pivot
doublemonk aint a thing, we could be benched if brew falls off tho, monks are re...
Surely they don’t shoot brew though, then the last 3 tank players will quit
indigo flume
do i use wildgrowth on cd on raid?
cerulean stratus
nance do u have dev connections
cerulean stratus
to revert this apex change
cerulean stratus
so maybe use it when i know dmg will come?
you use it relatively when it comes off cd
but if nothing is happening
u obv dont press it
marsh prism
if i had dev connections they would ban me
deft oar
they will literally buff it again
How bad is it
indigo flume
u obv dont press it
alright thanks
cerulean stratus
how bad is what
deft oar
The change
cerulean stratus
the nerf?
marsh prism
im done fucking swapping
cerulean stratus
and then they will see it and buff apex again
sly pivot
Just all stop using it and we get buffs ez
indigo flume
i pray we will not go back to playing tree
hardy junco
if no apex still doesnt use refo then ill gladly play no apex
+1
fleet jewel
spec-wide sandbag agreement
indigo flume
just make tree form like moonkin that boost healing thanks
frozen pebble
<https://questionablyepic.com/resto-druid/user-interface/>
You’re quick lmao 😂 I was trying to use the search bar to find that link again but I suck at mobile
I’m using the grid2 from there but was gonna try something else, or maybe a different preset
marsh prism
You’re quick lmao 😂 I was trying to use the search bar to find that link again ...
im always here to help. tell your friends
i dont know anyone else that has publicly posted profiles other than voulks there
flint jetty
errr, just got a whispers of duskwraith from NPX bonus roll, it doesnt seem to be on any tier list for trinkets im looking at (archon/method) for M+
indigo flume
yeah i made same mistake and didnt change loot spec to balance
spark river
Well you got the healer trinket out of the way now
opaque nebula
@marsh prism What you think are we done for this patch after coming nerf
flint jetty
do i need to do that before going into the M+ ?
marsh prism
<@182822227417235456> What you think are we done for this patch after coming ner...
no
indigo flume
i mean now u have trinket so u can keep resto loot spec
marsh prism
though it rarely matters to me as gm
sly pivot
I’m torn on next bonus as non raider. I’ve got wep/chest from NPX and ring/glove from MT. Mahbe try put chim
marsh prism
indigo flume
i forgot do i change loot spec to balance for vault too?
fervent mica
do i need to do that before going into the M+ ?
before the loot is chosen. in m+ it happens when you complete it
flint jetty
well my other 2 trinkets on my druid are a 256 4/6champ glorious crusader's keepsake (delve), and 256 4/6 champ light of the cosmis cresendo
indigo flume
this trinket is super bad
flint jetty
so i guess a 272 1/6 myth whispers will just flag out win vs that
fervent mica
you should be looking at qe
fervent mica
not those memey aggregate sites
balmy spire
just saw the nerfs, that will hurt 😛
flint jetty
before the loot is chosen. in m+ it happens when you complete it
should i just rule of thumb leave it as balance as default incase i forget in a M+ ?
indigo flume
should i just rule of thumb leave it as balance as default incase i forget in a ...
if u keep rolling npx u dont have to
because u already got trinket
fervent mica
really want to get into the habit of swapping it for each dungeon when you're looking for specific pieces
indigo flume
u can see loot for each spec in adventure guide thing
flint jetty
if i max it then it barely beats out the delve one lol
flint jetty
yeah i wanna get the heart
indigo flume
https://www.archon.gg/wow/builds/restoration/druid/mythic-plus/trinkets/10/all-dungeons/this-week i was checking this website
flint jetty
lol a maxed myth duskwraith is on par with a 6/6 champ crusader and light of cosmis cresendo
via qe
rich compass
I’m torn on next bonus as non raider. I’ve got wep/chest from NPX and ring/glove...
Myth Chim is super puggable and the trinket is OP, especially since we will be upgrading it soon to 298
rich compass
dont we want to upgrade weapon first?
Yeah but after that
indigo flume
oh okay
rich compass
Idk how long it takes to replenish the stuff
indigo flume
we can upgrade weapon + trinkets to 298 right?
sly pivot
Myth Chim is super puggable and the trinket is OP, especially since we will be u...
AOTC/gear enough for an invite you think?
rich compass
we can upgrade weapon + trinkets to 298 right?
Yes
indigo flume
AOTC/gear enough for an invite you think?
note that u can do madness + know mechanics
rich compass
AOTC/gear enough for an invite you think?
For sure, there's some pickier groups that might not take you without CE but majority are chill
sly pivot
note that u can do madness + know mechanics
I can’t and don’t, but will (jokes I’ll watch a vid)
indigo flume
its actually very easy to do madness
sly pivot
For sure, there's some pickier groups that might not take you without CE but maj...
Hmmm my plans tonight have changed
rich compass
Especially if you're not mythic raiding, Gaze is so far ahead of the other trinkets you'll have access to
sly pivot
Feel like I’ve had that many in heroic pugs kek
rich compass
The trinkets that are close are all from pretty deep in Voidspire
indigo flume
only hard part in mythic chim is kicking fear
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/6j7Ap1tLBTQfKW3k?fight=29&position=327603 i did very bad there but kill is a kill, now i know better
sly pivot
Should you be casting more regrowthsand less rejuv or is that because a lot of movement?
indigo flume
i didnt know LB should be on me + i didnt really use abundance that much
i was doing many random things there lol
my only goal was not to die
sly pivot
That’s fair, that’ll be me lol
indigo flume
and since i was doing madness i had less time to heal because i was 100% focused to make sure i do madness correctly
other healer often didnt make it in time to mark and i had to find him lol
balmy spire
How hard will that nerf hurt @spark river
sly pivot
Get your spin and fists ready Druid is dead
indigo flume
its in pinned msg
flint jetty
i should never let LB fall off a target right?
balmy spire
ty
indigo flume
yeah
flint jetty
in M+ should i leave it on the tank or ever swap it to another party member, i figure it resets it to 1 stack if i swap
not sure if worth the trade off
snow umbra
Evokers and Monks must have some dirt on their devs to remain un-nerfed
indigo flume
i often just keep it on tank in m+
but when some mechanic that will hurt a lot go on dps i swap lifebloom to that dps
indigo flume
for example in academy i bait this wyrms jump on me and then i use LB on me
i dont trust dps players there
flint jetty
im a little new this season so i have no idea how to bait that
indigo flume
i started playing m+ this season so yeah im a noob
indigo flume
my journey with wow started in feb this year
before i maybe had like 2-3 months total playtime
flint jetty
shit
im here coming back from being gone for god knows how long (x.2 DF patch for a mont)
and legion before that i guess
how did u never play before feb?
indigo flume
i did play legion for like a month then bfa for maybe 2 weeks and 1-2 months war within
thats my total experience lol
indigo flume
this week i got my first mythic raid boss kill
flint jetty
i wasnt expecting this discord to still exist, last time i was in here was in legion lol
amazed that the resto channel gots a lot of traction too
haughty ibex
for example in academy i bait this wyrms jump on me and then i use LB on me
if u stack in melee and tank a bit further out wyrms will jump only on him:D in higher keys if u do that ur dead in 2 jumps
or are u talking about the big vicious guy
indigo flume
my peak is +14 so it doesnt hurt that much
haughty ibex
but baiting it only on u is troll, so many classes can cancel the cast and the nasty dot it leaves
indigo flume
often when i leave it to pug dps they die
haughty ibex
often when i leave it to pug dps they die
heal them
in a 14 it won’t os
not even in a 19 afaik
sly pivot
I saw ragnon streaming raid he had cooldown times visible via an add on on his UI- anyone know what add on can do this?
indigo flume
idk how but when they get shot by it i try to heal them and they get random hit from something
haughty ibex
idk how but when they get shot by it i try to heal them and they get random hit ...
yeah that’s from the wyrms
prob
that’s why u should stack in melee;D