resto

[wheat cape]

ah, I'll try that again, thanks

okay yeah, obviously now it recommends it

[wise galleon]

Im not even simming, im getting head and catalyzing it but was wondering when do we drop the crafted weapon if ever, I see tome being very good there

[wheat cape]

Do you have a 1H to make use of it right now?

[balmy spire]

its like week 5 , not a single trinket in my vault xD

[wheat cape]

I'm dropping my crafted weapon if I ever get the 1h from mythic birb boss - I already have that offhand from chimaerus

[fierce pawn]

I will drop the crafted staff when I get the staff from NPX bonusrolls I guess. or do we roll as guardian, not balance?

[wise galleon]

I checked all weapons in M+ and there is no haste/mastery weapon. I've got a couple hero 1H but I also know I probably wont ever do Beloren mythic anytime soon

[wheat cape]

Check NPX

[wise galleon]

Ye thats two-handed, is that better then crafted too?

[wheat cape]

It will have more main stat due to its higher ilvl cap

[wise galleon]

I was mostly thinking about the two 1H weapons because of vault

Ill just get head and catalyze it I guess

[wheat cape]

but the best would be chimmy offhand and beloren mainhand

[wise galleon]

Aha from the voidforge

Is beloren mythic puggable kek?

[wheat cape]

It would have to be a really, really good pug

[wise galleon]

can just pug dreamrift and first two voidspire bosses zzz

[wheat cape]

Why voidspire?

For the crit/vers mace from first boss?

[wise galleon]

for fun

[wheat cape]

That's a great reason 🙂

[wise galleon]

i dont even need dreamrift

got mythic belt + myth gaze already

[wheat cape]

Vault insurance

I was in a pug on my alt that couldn't kill voidspire 2nd boss

[sudden rover]

what is this gay ass vault I got

my god

[storm kettle]

Chest is good

[sudden rover]

yeah I guess

[balmy spire]

bis neck 😄

[cursive pilot]

holy bis drums

[primal jungle]

4 of the pieces are BiS so you are right, your vault is hella gay

[exotic pike]

If i only have m+ vault slots, do i open as balance?

[thorn whale]

using gay as a slur in 2026

[primal jungle]

it's fine we just renamed BiS to GaY to make him angrier. Updating all our guides as we speak.

[spark river]

stop being weird guys

[primal jungle]

This is a culture war please stand aside civilian

[velvet cloak]

https://tenor.com/9MtK.gif

God I didn't realise it was such a short gif, I hate these stuttering-ass 1 sec gifs

[primal jungle]

Got all Yourstats lmao

[thick copper]

Hey mates, can you help me to improve ? I've parsed like dogshit on Fallen King.. Never did this bad https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/DMJZzG8b4PLkq2yp?fight=25
You can check my global pull tho if you want to https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/DMJZzG8b4PLkq2yp, as you can see i'm way better on Chimaerus in MM

[thorn whale]

You're making the same mistakes on both

[primal jungle]

we can but u need to relax first & not be so hard on yourself

[thick copper]

[tough portal]

Yeah it's a lot less fun to flame you if you come in flaming yourself first

[primal jungle]

yea its not even fun

wounded animal

[thick copper]

Hahaha

I'm really strict with myself

[primal jungle]

stop bullying our friend thanks

[thick copper]

I don't, just punishing myself

But not blaming others

[velvet cloak]

Well stop that

[thick copper]

[hybrid elk]

:/

Chest or Ribbon

Or head tbf

[spark river]

I am also like this

Helps me improve idk

[velvet cloak]

What head?

[brisk ravine]

almost jebaited

[hybrid elk]

mythic

[velvet cloak]

Buddy that's a cloak, no?

They renamed it to prevent this issue

[hybrid elk]

oh is it lol

[hybrid elk]

so it is LOL

the picture looked like a head piece HAHA

[brisk ravine]

yea they even changed the name a couple patches ago

[primal jungle]

hazing is supposed to be a 2-way street where the elders pass the torch to the younger generation. If you deny us this then we might burn for eternity with a fiery anime protaganist kinda passion.

[brisk ravine]

since some people took them from vault assuming it's a head

[thorn whale]

You can go coin 2x NXP

And see if you get chest

[tough portal]

The long and short of it is that Rejuv isnt that great alone, a lot of its value comes from buffing Regrowth so you should be casting a lot more Regrowth
Swiftmend usage + Lifebloom maintenance (both are connected) with VI extension on LB target with 2x Rejuvs on that also

[thorn whale]

Honestly I would take neck if u don’t have

Or ribbon

[thick copper]

tysm mate ! taking notes

[primal jungle]

i would take whatever QELive tells me

[thorn whale]

That’s not really how it works now tho

[spark river]

You are playing no apex and with prosperity. Please be updated on the latest talents. You re not pressing regrowth at all which means your abundance is basically useless. You have 6 cpm of wrath which means you are not healing at all, but this has a lot to do with being out of mana because you only spam rejuvenations and nothing else. Even worse, you consumed a high value rejuvenation 16 times with your prosperity. You need to ramp up with more hots for tranquility. Do not spam low mana spells during innervate.

[primal jungle]

if QELive isn't telling me I gotta do something then I'm not doin it & that's final

[thick copper]

Thanks mate Appreciate

[thorn whale]

That's not always the smartest way to go about it if you're gearing for "BIS" and not progression

[thick copper]

I've had a lot of issues tracking my 10 stacks to spam, it just disappear of my UI dunno why

[spark river]

There is an abundance tracker in cdm

Ramp to 12 and spam regrowth until you fall to 6

[thick copper]

with WoW Basic UI you mean ?

[spark river]

You should be looking roughly at a 1:1 rejuv to regrowth ratio

Yes blizzard cdm

[thick copper]

Yeah i got this, but i saw IN fight that it disappear

sometimes

not everytime

[spark river]

Disappears only if you have 0 abundance

[brisk ravine]

Where would you guys use your coins if you were me? I haven't mythic raided at all yet, don't know why: https://questionablyepic.com/live/report/ckethzmdymex

[spark river]

no myth raiding and bis rings and bis staff

I could never

[brisk ravine]

[spark river]

Try pugging myth dreamrift

[brisk ravine]

Yea figured

[spark river]

Its not that hard and you can roll myth gaze

[brisk ravine]

I'll try, thanks

[polar lichen]

how hard would you say it is to go from "ive never successfully healed a raid" to "they dont hate me in the myth dreamrift pugs"

[spark river]

Depends if you understand the class or not. Plenty of people have no problem going from heroic end bosses to pugging early myth.

[thick copper]

Do you keep bleeding boss in feral form with new talents ? I'm reading it

[clear cape]

Why are we running verdant infusion instead of double swiftmend?

[balmy spire]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/tL7T9X2xApNCfhDY?fight=6&type=healing&source=2

any improvements beside of my hard rejus? 😛

[polar lichen]

im really only doing like weekly tier m+ so far, i expect raid healing works very differently and has like actual hps requirements

i guess i just gotta pug random stuff to get a feel for it

[thorn whale]

Rank 1 and 2 on Chimaerus is 2/3 healing 😡

[gentle nova]

First boss logs xddd

[gentle nova]

Yeah all of the gameplay

Youre playing like if it was cata

[thorn whale]

@gentle nova 😡

[gentle nova]

Thats fake

R1 is 215k or smth

[thorn whale]

221

I haven't killed it in 12.0.5 so

[balmy spire]

Healing was fine, i think i should spam more reg, but that fight is so movement heavy...

[gentle nova]

If you do the simulacrums right theres nothing to heal

[thorn whale]

we had a 1x teather

on the kill

[thorn whale]

No

[gentle nova]

Movement heavy?

Why are you moving

[balmy spire]

I think my guild is playing that with heavy movement, got also 3 times the puddle debuff

so i had to move

[gentle nova]

Think youre moving too muc

[thorn whale]

then you press rejuv while moving, but that doesn't mean you don't start spamming RG as soon as you stand still

[gentle nova]

Just stay in mid

Get puddle to a side

[fierce pawn]

@balmy spire you can use natures swiftness much more 🙂

[balmy spire]

true

[gentle nova]

Idk man

Optimal play still cant parse

Fuck my chungus

[grizzled seal]

Is this paladins or what

[gentle nova]

Alleria

Paladins looks similar

Theres got to be a cheese there

Idk

I have 23 rg 20 rejuv cpm and im parsing 95

[rigid frigate]

Honestly top end parses depend on how the other healers do lol

[thorn whale]

Yeah

[gentle nova]

I should barkskin more

[plain steeple]

I basically 2 healer chimaerus and had a 78. No damage coming to the group. All other healers afk.
I have no idea how to parse high there.

It’s just nothing happening at all.

[rigid frigate]

Check uptime of hots / check cd usage / don’t rely on Lorg timings maybe

[gentle nova]

Druid has no cds

Convoke is a meme

Mana cooldown

[rigid frigate]

Yesss haha

Gives so much mana

It sucks Im disc instead of rdruid for belo

Can’t wait to switch back in lura

[marsh prism]

wait Matt have you not killed alleria yet

[gentle nova]

I have weird proh

Prog

[marsh prism]

ah ok

[gentle nova]

😂

[gentle nova]

Why

[rigid frigate]

We need a pain sup

[bright swift]

i mean before .5 I would have said sure

but after

we are so OP

[rigid frigate]

I know

[gentle nova]

Whats the comp

Because with my ib ppl were living fine

[rigid frigate]

Healer comp? Pally / disc (me) / mw

[grizzled seal]

End tier parses = boss dies right after your tranq burst

[fervent mica]

i got a 73 this week with 52% overheal /-: boss is a meme

[grizzled seal]

Overheal is really misleading on druid now

[fervent mica]

yeah

[grizzled seal]

How much of that 52% is you blasting yourself for 200k raw hps

[fervent mica]

but its still hilarious having it this high

[rigid frigate]

I actually was so ready for a nerf this week

[rigid frigate]

Was mentally preparing

[fervent mica]

overheal is the darker part 😄

[grizzled seal]

Same

But an average druid in keys spams Starfire and in raid they have 50% lifebloom uptime

Literally being saved by morons

[empty island]

Can somebody explain this to me? Is that a nerf, or a buff?

[fervent mica]

i keep expecting them to lower the splash amount but hit more targets...

[gentle nova]

Its a bug fix

[fervent mica]

bug fix

[grizzled seal]

Nerf in the form of bugfix if you were abusing this

[harsh quail]

its a change to save m+ rdruids from themself

[fervent mica]

if you don't understand the interaction, it has no effect on you

[grizzled seal]

I mean it did

[gentle nova]

I dont like this

[grizzled seal]

Every regrowth generated 2 stacks instead of 1

[gentle nova]

Keep making our healing hit like wetnoodles but spreaded out between 20 t

[grizzled seal]

Not many play nature's bounty in keys

[fervent mica]

yeah... it seemed like most skipped nb with doc stuff

[deft oar]

I had the joy of solo healing a side on chim this week, was low-key stressful but good for the parse xd

[grizzled seal]

Changing how splash works won't change this

[fervent mica]

heroic? or how did you handle the yank

[rigid frigate]

It’s actually crazy to me rdruid got whispering waves with natures bounty

[gentle nova]

It will if they change it to hit more but for less %?

[grizzled seal]

Potato potato

[thorn whale]

Wat

We just 4 healed and I'm rank 3 now

[grizzled seal]

One spell hitting select targets for marginally less when it's already hitting for fuck all does nothing

Also you play druid, what the fuck do you expect

[gentle nova]

Naaah i can actually see health bars move a bit when i proc sotf

[grizzled seal]

Ok now I know you are trolling

Or you have much better eyesight than me which tbf is very likely

[fervent mica]

lol... sotf proc at the same time as a real bar mover pushes a button

[gentle nova]

Aberrus flourish

[deft oar]

Mythic, wdym yank?

[grizzled seal]

In the new world everybody has a revival tier cd

[warm bear]

I have got some kind of block in my brain when it comes to healing Embersdawn in windrunner spire.
For some reason I just have a hard time healing this compared to any other boss in the dungeon pool.
Do you guys in here have any tips for this boss? I can also just specify that it is during his fire breath phase i feel like i struggle

[grizzled seal]

You press your cd and then check the cooldown manager if you actually did because nothing changed

[gentle nova]

I thought evang was a cool cd but its actually pretty bad

[thorn whale]

Press convoke early in first of them, and you'll have convoke for 2 of them

[gentle nova]

Lmao

[fervent mica]

the breath won't ever go to the same spot twice in a row, so you can just plan to go to where it was

[grizzled seal]

I actually did this often on my monk

[gentle nova]

Slt feels impactful still

[grizzled seal]

I'd sit there mashing revival button wondering why it doesn't go off

(it went off, just did no healing)

[gentle nova]

And rewind doesnt?

[thorn whale]

Rewind does

But Revival is just mass dispell and nothing else

[grizzled seal]

On some bosses

[thorn whale]

it feels good on L'ura when you're split

[gentle nova]

Tranq is also a meme

[marsh prism]

i need justice for tranq

[gentle nova]

Oh tranq hitting 10 players sounds good

[grizzled seal]

Tranq just needs a damage pattern that mostly doesn't exist anymore

[marsh prism]

yeah

[deft oar]

Tranq I deffo feel the hp bars move at times

[warm bear]

thanks for the tips!
I actually didn't know that it only breathed one direction only once

[marsh prism]

3min is just a joke

[deft oar]

For example first raid damage event on paladins

Tranq feels very impactful

[gentle nova]

Thats 5 healers using cds

Not tranq

And lust

[grizzled seal]

Third tranq is very good there too

[gentle nova]

I dont even tranq that

[deft oar]

tranq does the most in that time in my kills at least

[grizzled seal]

On paladins that is

[gentle nova]

I tranq before that so i have time to spam rgs

[thorn whale]

Second tranq no?

[grizzled seal]

Idk you are clowning on tranq but tranq with reck pot goes hard

[foggy trellis]

we dont take reforestation anymore?

[grizzled seal]

Yeah same

[foggy trellis]

in raid

i just got used to it ^^

[grizzled seal]

On lura rn I sometimes go to 16-18 rejuvs with tranq and that means my hps goes through the roof

[gentle nova]

Third tranq on paladins is op i agree

And then you 2 min convoke

[grizzled seal]

This is why I use reck pot btw

It's just too strong

[rigid frigate]

You’re hitting like 400K - 500k I assume?

[grizzled seal]

In the intermission? Yeah but it's also a comp thing for us

We don't use any other healer cds there

[gentle nova]

Idk if its actually better to innervate before tranq or after when your rejuvs fall off

Rn im doing after

Since on pull i dont need innervate at all cuz i can go at 100% mana for a lot of time

[deft oar]

I need to be better with my mana to be able to use reck pot

I think I wasted a lot of mana here tbh. Also the chars stats aren't great I think, was offspec. I need to plan innervates better for sure

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/VQWhF3B8ang2JmR4?fight=39&type=healing

I need to do the pre ramp -> drink thing.
Rn I default to like 7 rejuvs into innervate and more rejuvs pre pull. Probs very troll

[gentle nova]

Nah man how we linking logs with hpriest now

That shit should be illegal

[deft oar]

Was just a 5 boss boost run with a passion paladins at the end

[plain steeple]

During the split even there is no damage coming to the raid at all. You can easily solo heal this. (I did).
Only during consume there is a bit of dmg coming, but that is over before tranq ended.

[deft oar]

I wouldn't say it's easy to solo heal the split thing, especially if someone is just holding the dispell until yours comes off cooldown

[gentle nova]

Bro must be nice having hymn buff for all the tranqs

That shit sounds stupid

[marsh prism]

what pull timer do you get, ask for like 15 at least

[gentle nova]

Casual 20% on all tranq windows

[deft oar]

Normally 10 in these boosts, in guild it's 15 (20 even on lura)

[idle lake]

if i have locus walkers ribbons on hero already should i open my vault as balance?

[deft oar]

What's the correct play even, 10 rejuvs into drink into a couple more and then regrowths?

[severe rose]

Did you guys see that you can use the 5% per second mana drink from the inkeeper inbetween casts. Because since the patch it insta ticks mana so you just cast/sit, not needing any time to drink pre pull

[gentle nova]

Big

[deft oar]

Which one is that?

[severe rose]

water from inkeeper

[deft oar]

Time to buy 1000 and bind it to rejuv 🧑‍🍳

[idle lake]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1187837685524607029/1496608569905381428/twitter-gif-2046995290884903158_69e92d728da90.gif

[severe rose]

it seems like an oversight but its feels nice, was like the time you could use daggermaw+drin at the same time

[proven phoenix]

there is no way this works in combat

or

[knotty goblet]

Went kitty last night, felt so good

[cunning atlas]

I dont know if I'm taking crazy pills or my groups are just bad. In Windrunners Spire, the dot goes out separately at first, and then later again in combination with the jumping over the line mechanic. Do you clear those first dots? I thought the answer is basically always yes, but close to none of my pugs clear them basically ever

[deft oar]

You can't drink in combat so I assume not?

[cursive pilot]

The what now

[proven phoenix]

yes thats what I would imagine

the whole cast then drink thing made me think it worked in combat

but there is no way thats true

[cursive pilot]

U talking bout last boss?

[cunning atlas]

Yes

[limpid jacinth]

Babe, stop clipping my tiktok

[cunning atlas]

You get the debuff that turns into the puddle when you clear, and then later you get it again in combination with the outgoing white wave that you have to jump over

[cursive pilot]

Ah you mean the nut pools, people always clear em out in mine

[candid peak]

hey guys, any recommendation on trinkets for m+? got gaze, vaelgor's gaze, and heart of wind. i'm kinda unsure

[cursive pilot]

Qelive

[idle lake]

gaze and heart of wind

on use trinkets = created by the devil

[cunning atlas]

I mean the actual dot, not the pools you get after clearing those (that get cleared with the circle debuff). Sorry I'm not being very clear, it's all white circle debuffs in there

[candid peak]

heh, on use kinda felt strong but i'm new to druid and i'd rather listen to people that know more

[idle lake]

i dont like on use trinkets

you are better off simming it

[candid peak]

simming?

oh shit

mb i didnt know that was a thing

[idle lake]

https://questionablyepic.com/live/topgear

[cursive pilot]

I don’t think I’ve cleared anything other than doing the normal mechanic of drop pool, jump, clear pool after

[idle lake]

what are you even talking about here

[cursive pilot]

Mik talking about Windrunner

[idle lake]

druid cant dispel any of the dots in windrunner

can they ?

[cursive pilot]

Not sure if he’s talking about dispel

#resto message

[candid peak]

ty guys

[idle lake]

oh clearing it with the mechanics

[cursive pilot]

Yeah you get the blue ring that’s supposed to be used in clearing pools

Maybe his group isn’t doing that

[versed bobcat]

Hello !
I recently started healing and very often I find myself spaming heals on my tank (I do most keys with him) and get blamed when he dies (I have bloom / both rejuv constantly on them but I have to hard cast maybe 60% of the time in combat regrowth on him).
hes playing all the tank and its about same situation every time.
What can I do to improve this ? I do mostly 10s-12s.

[spark river]

You only hotw rip for mana. Your primary goal is to be a healer in raids.

[idle lake]

what does ur friend play

[cursive pilot]

Is he rotating defensive?

[idle lake]

which tank

[cursive pilot]

He said all of them

lol

[wraith flax]

Hello, regarding this, is it better to owlweave now? Or is catweawing still the better option? I don't heal often, as a feral main

[idle lake]

oh i didnt catch that

misinterpreted it

[thick copper]

Noted ! Tysm for your tips

[idle lake]

if tank dies its their fault

[versed bobcat]

hes mainly playing dh, druid and monk, occasionaly dk and war

[cursive pilot]

Sounds like that tank ain’t pressing his buttons and blaming healer

[versed bobcat]

I am not sure but I kinda hope so, I don't know much about tanks

[cunning atlas]

I'll ask this question again when I'm at my pc and can look up ability names, because something is getting lost in translation here (which is very likely happening from the way I'm asking)

[cursive pilot]

It’s a 10-12 it’s definitely him

[tough portal]

Owl stronger than cat generally

[versed bobcat]

So keeping bloom both rejuv is ok but I should not be spaming that much regrowth on him ?

[thorn whale]

😡

[marsh prism]

looking into shooting the messenger

[wraith flax]

Thank you very much ! :D

[gentle nova]

The way you walk

The way you understand me

[marsh prism]

https://tenor.com/view/bear-baby-bear-bear-cub-cub-worried-bear-gif-3871404305283279898

[cursive pilot]

Well the dot you might be asking about is squal leap which is cleared by running over an arrow

[long siren]

[marsh prism]

[cunning atlas]

That's the one I mean, you're supposed to clear that right? Even when you don't have to do the jump mechanic? It's not something I'm just supposed to heal through?

[gentle nova]

The way you move

The way you just whisper me

The way you walk the way you understand me

[idle lake]

i always just heal it

[cursive pilot]

I usually just heal it through since windblast is usually right after it

[gentle nova]

I want you just just the way you aaaaaare

[thorn whale]

Was fine to just heal on 18, idk how it is in title range

[cursive pilot]

Plus the more people clear that dot more nut pools on the ground

[limpid jacinth]

talking statistically

[gentle nova]

Its britney bitch

I see you

[limpid jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/who-dat-snoop-gif-15116696

[lament river]

Isnt this ring BIS? Q/E want me to take boots. I got nexus ring and Eye of the midnight ring (HC)

[thorn whale]

Not this again

[gentle nova]

https://tenor.com/view/sailor-moon-cringe-usagi-serena-anime-gif-3526657651583984193

[limpid jacinth]

It’s trivial to clear it so you’re just taking pressure off by doing that. That being said, it’s not hard to heal through either.

[limpid jacinth]

oh no, now it’s stuck in my head

[lost pagoda]

guys for mainly m+ what is the better trinket https://www.wowhead.com/item=249341/volatile-void-suffuser or https://www.wowhead.com/item=249811/light-of-the-cosmic-crescendo

[idle lake]

why is myth weapon from nexus point not showing as an upgrade when i sim

[radiant narwhal]

guys I got a purple parse

[haughty ibex]

which legit do absolutely nothing other than taking off some space?

[thorn whale]

What talent tree?

[haughty ibex]

having couple squishies clearing should be mandatory

[long siren]

BAER only knows one.... That enough?

[gentle nova]

Blizz makes a perma rot healing check boss but immediately makes a mechanic to counter act it so healers dont get too pressured

[haughty ibex]

wat 😭

[gentle nova]

Poor things

[fervent mica]

because you didn't add a new embellishment to replace your crafted

[limpid jacinth]

definitely not mandatory but it’s pretty dumb if they don’t since most ranged can continue to DPS while up

[cursive pilot]

What

[limpid jacinth]

M+ players don’t heal, we (pretend to) DPS

[gentle nova]

Time for ragebait

[haughty ibex]

idk healing through dot + the aoe clearing pool things imo is kinda rough

i was struggling little bit

[limpid jacinth]

Fair, I’m sure it varies, I just didn’t struggle with it on 20

[haughty ibex]

I don’t see the downside of making 2 dps clear

[haughty ibex]

i think ur just better man

[limpid jacinth]

Im legit like the worst player here

not sarcasm

[haughty ibex]

why do u ragebait me

😕

[torn thunder]

Because you don’t have a 2nd embellishment to replace your weapon with likely. Add staff without embellishment and compare

[gentle nova]

Im the best here cause i have the gay healing buff

[limpid jacinth]

sorry, trying to be encouraging and realizing I sound like an ass

[heavy sinew]

just bonus rolled a gaze with leech, we gamin

[kind star]

Still no helm

[idle lake]

ahhhhh

[limpid jacinth]

said every resto Druid ever

[cursive pilot]

Time out corner

[idle lake]

what embellishment do I use?

[gentle nova]

It gives me 10% hps for being gay only

[torn thunder]

2nd arcanoweave lining

[marsh prism]

can i have a nonbinary bisexual buff or is that a nerf

[gentle nova]

Nerf

[haughty ibex]

no im trolling u u are fine

[idle lake]

thats a nerf

[marsh prism]

valid.

[idle lake]

thats why im stuck in 3100 rio

[marsh prism]

[idle lake]

cant be any other reason.

[tough portal]

4 pings man I thought I was popping off

GG

[marsh prism]

are you gay.

[limpid jacinth]

Ilysm

[tough portal]

https://tenor.com/view/doesn't-get-it-gif-11969878697861392921

[marsh prism]

i said

are you gay.

[gentle nova]

https://tenor.com/view/bob-monsters-vs-aliens-comprehending-gif-8696269331399016193

[idle lake]

reminds me of this

[tough portal]

https://giphy.com/gifs/muppetwiki-muppets-kermit-the-frog-xdLH51eNWZAHrwy5mf

[crisp mauve]

guys i havent done keys in like 3 weeks. im trying the new dream of cenarius build in 16s atm

[marsh prism]

dont do that.

[crisp mauve]

its dumb healing isnt it? i feel like im griefing trying to use it to heal and people just die

yeah

[marsh prism]

dont grief.

cheers

[gentle nova]

https://tenor.com/view/benjammins-crin-crine-crine-meme-cry-emojis-gif-12358184109200837068

[marsh prism]

i literally hate this motherfucker so bad

wait who is that

[crisp mauve]

i see top druids runnning that build now, are they using it to only dps when safe? is it 'dumb healing'?

i thought i could use it to pump hps through like firrst pull of WRS, but people just fall over

[thorn whale]

It is dumb healing yes

[crisp mauve]

thats sooo lame

[idle lake]

retweet

[gentle nova]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-laugh-ai-baby-babyfryingme-baby-sob-folk-gif-18221933230434867320

[kind star]

tank valeera finally useful she was such paper early on, so to target farm item slot in delve I gotta get to 11 and unlock some kinda trader ? trying to replace blue helm not lucky in magister/seat

[opaque nebula]

Fixed an issue where Blooming Infusion was counting each target of Nature’s Bounty or Rampant Growth as an additional cast.

Is this big nerf?

[spark river]

not if you never used it

People abused it by constantly using sotf regrowth for the free starfire proc

[limpid jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/fuck-you-eff-you-fu-fuk-off-screw-you-fuck-off-fuck-you-eff-you-gif-4563704914822392535

[spark river]

But it doesnt affect most people as they had no clue

[cunning atlas]

Yeah it hasn't been an issue to heal through it so far, I was mostly just surprised I was the only one actually clearing most of the time. Felt like I was doing something wrong by clearing

[eternal bough]

for simming it says HoW but what do you think about the neck ?

[cunning atlas]

But nice to know it's sort of an "either way is fine" situation

[limpid jacinth]

You already have Myth Gaze?

[teal jungle]

Either the hero gaze or a token for rerolls

[eternal bough]

yes

[teal jungle]

If youre mythic raiding, why take hero items

[limpid jacinth]

Then HoW is probably the play. The neck is really low Haste and is Hero.

[eternal bough]

ok ty guys didnt see it was hero xD

[spark river]

Wdym you didnt see

Mouseover it

[eternal bough]

yes just woke up

thx guys

[teal jungle]

Is your log review also "dont make mistakes, just kill" xd

[spark river]

Git gud is sometimes a part of my reviews yes

[teal jungle]

So here you died, try not dying

[limpid jacinth]

take what you did and do anything but that

[fervent mica]

catching shields in your teeth is not a good play

[zenith linden]

[bold plume]

Currently sitting on
both 289 ilvl, and got in vault, any point changing Hearth of Wind for the Stare? according to QuestionablyEpic its pretty much same performance...

[white sentinel]

how do you guys successfully wild charge skyreach last boss

it removes u from travel form

[spark river]

No

[fervent mica]

i wouldn't.

[spark river]

Its almost the same

Your only change now should be a myth ribbon

[broken plinth]

Hey fellow resto droods, Im collecting more and more trinkets but now Im not sure which combo I should use in high m+ keys (19+) on the leaderboards it seems like everyone is using a different combo, thoughts?

[bold plume]

ty

[harsh quail]

I just go into owl form and do the wild charge with that

[fervent mica]

its a pita without owl...

[spark river]

Everyone uses what they have right now. You should sim on qe for dungeons to know what to use. You re going to use gaze and ribbon on myth if its possible.

[tough portal]

Isnt it the same as travel form just backwards?

[white sentinel]

It shifts u out of travel form

[fervent mica]

the bird swaps you out of travel

like... multiple times. so you have to time it right before the drop

[spark river]

Yeah

[tough portal]

thats funny

[spark river]

Only when you are over the edge shift to travel form

[tough portal]

I wouldnt know I wouldnt even try any of it at my ping

[spark river]

I ve got it somewhat consistent now

[tough portal]

I cant reliably jump + WC to skip the wind platform either

[white sentinel]

Has anyone tried wild charging to a teamate instead

Are they in range for that?

[fervent mica]

no path

[white sentinel]

So its gotta be bird or travel form

[slow pasture]

Isn’t it easier to just travel form and then cat+sprint when close to the strong winds near the stairs ?

[white sentinel]

No

[torn thunder]

Skipping it either by the fancy jump or by using the wind at the corner is definitely faster than running

[vocal sage]

Is there such a thing as too much haste? Buffed, I have 40% haste and 33% mastery

QE tells me to get more haste too. It says the chim belt > saladbar belt, the former has haste/crit and the latter has mastery/vers

[spark river]

If your primary focus is raid, you want as much haste as possible

[vocal sage]

Roger that!

Thanks

[eternal bough]

this or the crafted one ? ty

[slow pasture]

I meant sprinting to go straight to the stairs.
Loosing 3s for that is better than fail jumping

[spark river]

Fairly confident you dont make it to the stairs

The jump isnt really that hard

[slow pasture]

Don’t underestimate my attraction to the void

[fervent mica]

i make the jump 100% of the time in pugs... if its people i know i will always fuck it up. lol

[cursive pilot]

Jump bird leap cat run

[kind star]

oh didnt know you could do that ill have to try next time

[tropic oasis]

Hello everyone, I come in peace with a few questions about keybinds... I don't understand how people manage them. I understand that with the Fluid Form talent, I can switch from my elf form to cat form using Rake, for example. For my part, to switch back to human form and heal, I have a macro like this:

"#showtooltip
/cast [mod:alt,@player] [@mouseover,help,nodead] HELP_SPELL; [@mouseover,harm,nodead] [harm] HARM_SPELL; HELP_SPELL"

This allows me to have the same keybind for Rejuvenation and Rake, for example. How do you manage all of this?

[snow mural]

Use mouseover addon like clique. I have reju on left mouse, lifebloom on right mouse, ironbark on scroll down, not really using scroll up or side buttons as they pruned the abilities but i used to have treants + cenarion ward on them.

I also have wild growth on "5" and it is also the button i use for Rip, but it only casts wild growth if i hover a party frame. (Having "5" bound i Clique as mouseover but my actual "5" in my bar is Rip)

I can only say that using your mouse for some abilities will help you a ton, then you can also use the mouse buttons to get out of form so u dont need to have Reju on "1" in every form or something like that

[tough portal]

I dont use the same keybind for any 2 spells like this personally

[tropic oasis]

how its possible, there are so much keybinds

[tough portal]

The primary action bar swaps depending on your form already so that's more than enough for me

[tropic oasis]

i play with bartender and my bar dont switch

[spark river]

i have rejuv/rake, regrowth/rip, sw/starfire

Never had any issues

[tropic oasis]

@snow mural ty, i'll try Clique !

[tropic oasis]

okay so something a bit like me

@spark river you use harm/help macro ?

[versed stone]

that macro makes little sense and is overly complicated, it requires you to mouseover harm target to keep using rake??

[tropic oasis]

no, just in target

[versed stone]

use harm as 1st condition, help as 2nd and auto selfcast

[spark river]

Not really. Its just a mouseover for the healing spell and the harm spell is as it is

[tropic oasis]

how can i do the same thing withou this complicated macro ?

[uncut mica]

For me, I have a mouse with six side buttons. I use shift + and ctrl + to give me extra options both for mouse buttons and keyboard keys, so I have many more options for keys to use than there are abilities.

[tough portal]

This order would never mouseover heal

[tropic oasis]

@spark river can you show me one of your macro plzzzz ?

[tough portal]

Assuming the point of it is to keep an enemy targeted and mouseover heal, a [harm] first will never go to the heal

[cursive pilot]

F1 for bear form f2 for cat form

[versed stone]

using mouseover to heal in macros is diabolical

I meant use the order I typed and then clique

[spark river]

#showtooltip
/use [@mouseover,nodead,help] Rejuvenation; Rake

Nothing too special tbh

[tough portal]

Is it not... the same as clique?

[wind night]

in m+ how important is it to swap lifebloom around?

[versed stone]

it's not, it will mouseover heal a friendly if it goes over your cursor in world

[tropic oasis]

ty very much !

[versed stone]

instead of just working on a frame

[tropic oasis]

@versed stone the macro of Solareana seems better ?

[versed stone]

ye but still as I said, I would never use @mouseover in harm,help macro since you will miscast reju on ppl that go over your cursor

[tropic oasis]

yeah sometimes it happens 🙁

So what's the solution ?

I don't get it yet 🙁

[versed stone]

use clique to cast on frames, and then help,harm for target only

[spark river]

To not have your cursor on frames while dpsing?

Never really had this problem tbh

[versed stone]

that's precisely the problem though, if you have your cursor near mobs when pressing your harm button you will cast reju if some1 is under that cursor :D

using a @mouseover macro that is

[tropic oasis]

so if i use Clique, for example, i can press "e" for rejuv when i target ally frame, and if i dont target ally, i can rake on "e", right ?

[versed stone]

and I refuse to belive it never happened to you since it happened to me when I was testing this setup and actively trying to avoid doing just that

[tough portal]

I see what you mean, this way you arent omega countered by NPC healing too

[tropic oasis]

@versed stone What would a help/harm macro with rake and rejuv look like, for example, in your opinion?

[spark river]

Well my cursor is nowhere my frames when i dps

[sudden rover]

doc feels very underwhelming in keys now, just tested it

[spark river]

It depends on your setup i guess

But never had an issue with this or i would switch pretty sure

[versed stone]

I can't show you mine coz you will all kill me but something like /cast [harm,nodead]Rake;Rejuvenation and then auto selfcast enabled in interface

[vivid owl]

bruh

[spark river]

bonus roll

go get your bis item

[bright swift]

Opening vaults as resto

[tropic oasis]

okay thank you, i'll test this ! And on clique, i just have to bind "rejuv", right ?

[versed stone]

yes and tick "active on unit frames"

[spark river]

i am a balance spec vault truther after guardian has screwed me over

[versed stone]

do not tick "always active" in clique

[tough portal]

Where did yall get the idea that balance has fewer trinkets btw?

[tropic oasis]

thank you very much !

[tough portal]

It has the same number and the DPS-only trinkets arent any more useful than the healer-only trinkets lol

[vivid owl]

thank you ahahahaha

[sudden rover]

we dont have whistle as balance I'm pretty sure

and other shit

[grizzled seal]

The problem with caster loot specs are main hands and off hands

Not trinkets

There are just too many useless mh and oh

[tough portal]

Right, and there are DPS-only trinkets instead that are all useless

[spark river]

Getting 3 agility staves as guardian screws your mental

[vivid owl]

also, i dont raid so max i would ever be able to get is heroic gaze. I have this atm and

thats it

[tough portal]

Whistle is a perfectly good trinket for people that wont get mythic raid loot, simping for damage is better than 30% uptime on some lame haste proc man

[sudden rover]

whistle is dogshit compared to gaze and ribbon and others

and those are easily farmed in hc now

but yeah I guess if you get as much useless shit as balance loot, might as well stay resto loot

idk tbh

[versed stone]

depends how much you value the mastery on a dpser

if you value it at 100% then whistle is just as good as hero gaze

[sudden rover]

meh whistle is more or less 20% uptime

gaze 45

[spark river]

isnt hc gaze and myth how just the best someone non raiding. can get

[tough portal]

I'm a strict hater of passive-secondary+low-uptime-int-proc trinkets

And would 100% wear whistle over heart of wind 10 out of 10 times in m+

[limpid jacinth]

same same

[vivid owl]

i said i dislike raiding nowadays, and i wont be able to get mythic trinkets, and its better on the trinket list on QE than what i have atm

saying "take the coin", when i could just coin the same ilvl in m+

[paper dirge]

does craft 2 hand better than full mythic 2 hand ?

[storm kettle]

No

[spark river]

3 coins > 2 coins

Math is quite clear

Gambling man math

[deft terrace]

Hi everyone sorry if this has been asked and sick of repeating. i will try anyway, does anyone know how to track call of the elder druid cooldown?

[spark river]

But still math

[spark river]

no

You cant

[versed stone]

look at your debuffs :)

[deft terrace]

damn yeah was trying in cooldown manager and for the life of me could not figure it out

[versed stone]

that's the only way I know of

[spark river]

You can only track it when you proc it

[deft terrace]

Thank you, shame would of thought CDM would allow it. cheers all

[versed stone]

cdm still has broken pandemic for things like lifebloom

I wouldn't expect much from it

they seem to be adding on average 1-2 spells per patch to it

[thorn plover]

How track doc plz

If I have 31 hast can I trak

[sudden rover]

u cant sorry bro

too complicated

[spark river]

alright i didnt want to tag you

but it seems you get summoned

on doc keyword

[thorn plover]

😂

31 the new 67

[sudden rover]

67 67 67

[thorn plover]

I wonder if we can kill paladins today

[bright swift]

I doubt it personally

[thorn plover]

Me too

[tough portal]

In the spirit of gear helping you heal thru hard spots, feel like these people using Gaze dont quite have it up in the hard spots as much as I'd like with the low-uptime-primary-stat-proc

That was just the first boss I could think of for a big damage spike

[thorn plover]

Thanks for your confidence vrocas

[spark river]

Why are we looking at doc logs

[tough portal]

K bro

[bright swift]

I gotchu bro

[tough portal]

Idk why I engage with sola to this day

[spark river]

haha

Alright

Are you suggesting we play something else rather than gaze

in dungeons

?

[thorn plover]

Idk why I engage with <insert name here> to this day

Because we're sick

[bright swift]

Idk why I engage with Mattiu to this day

[thorn plover]

Mattiu is just misunderstood

😏

K but real for a sec
After 2nd execution sentence does everyone just run so we can get predictable absorbs? Like the 1st set? This is where we're wiping currently, about 3m in

[thorn whale]

Yeah

But also people with debuff should stand on the inside of the raid / execution group

To not get overlap

That helps a bit too

[tough portal]

I wouldnt dare say this as advice to others, Gaze average value is high, ofc. But personally I'm a big fan of effects under my control OR a higher floor item. So like Vaelgor's + Cosmic Crescendo, ideally, but I'm not getting that on mythic, so I'd wear the simp Whistle ig.

[spark river]

The thing with gaze is even though the proc can be weird at times, you re getting a ton of flat mastery which is very valuable in keys

Im not a fan of on use trinkets in keys tbh

Unless they are a shield like silk

[thorn plover]

Last week the flex spot for execution was getting us, but I've got that figured out now. Figuring out which way people are orienting on the 2nd one is a challenge tho lol

[tough portal]

130 int >> 130 mastery

Easily

[thorn plover]

Everyone seems to interpret it a bit different, but it's because our positioning sucks and isn't consistent

[spark river]

Yeah I agree

[tough portal]

The entire trinket design hinges on static int trinkets having a weaker effect than static secondary trinkets because of this

[spark river]

But if we account the procs over a dungeon gaze is ahead

even though it doesnt always proc in the right moment

[tough portal]

But I dont want to buff my healing by 0.5% more on average over a dungeon bro

I want to get a big buff the 2 times that matter in a 30 min run

Under my control

[thorn whale]

Big up face

I’m running stare + Crescendo when I get it

[tough portal]

But I wouldnt say the same about DPS, since DPS are always doing DPS, random procs are whatever fine so we simp

[thorn plover]

I'm praying for trinkets. Running suffuser and drums rn lol

[spark river]

I can see that scenario being better only in a world first key where the on use of vaelgor is make it or break it for the healing

[primal jungle]

anything can be good in a vacuum til you really try it & realize it sucks

[spark river]

The chinese have run gaze and vaelgor for a bit in beta high keys so I understand but I wouldnt switch to an on use unless i am bricking the key on a hard heal check

[kind star]

still no goddamn helm, screw you magisters/seat!

[tulip lintel]

is there a particular M+ which is worth to bonus roll in?

[spark river]

Rolling that offhand on dreamrift tonight

[tough portal]

What are you gearing for then?

Like what drives your decision making if you're just assessing that you'd only make a better decision if you hit 2 key levels higher

Unequip gear

[primal jungle]

🤣 🤣 🤣

[spark river]

For most healing overall quite clearly rather than set scenarios

[thorn plover]

I got belt week 1 which obviously isn't removed so I'll get it again. Got set chest last night 🫪

[spark river]

I took the bonus roll and got spire staff with leach

So its alright

[thorn plover]

I haven't got anything rolls yet

My luck this season has been unreal bad

[spark river]

Also got a how from bonus roll

If I get gaze tonight im chilling

[thorn plover]

Gaze has dropped natty from the boss every week for us, plus a ton of people have rolled it. I gotta be up soon for it jfc

Last night it went to our pres who already had stare/ribbon

[spark river]

Theres like 10ish people ahead of me for gaze still

Maybe in a couple of weeks

[thorn plover]

I usually don't care about loot but I was a bit ticked last night by it lol

[storm kettle]

Almost everyone in my guild has gaze from vault, I think we got only one from the raid

[spark river]

I only care about gaze at this point tbh

Thats the big upgrade

[thorn plover]

I'm largely on raid logging already. Kinda losing interest. This is the least engaged in a season I've felt

[spark river]

Everything else is fine

[thorn plover]

Gaze sims like 1% for me. Easily my biggest upgrade on paper

[spark river]

1.18% for me

[candid topaz]

hello resto friends i have a question: in keys how often are you hoppin ur lifebloom around, just keeping it on tank all the time and refreshing or swapping to hurt players? resetting the stacks and the timer seems bad

[thorn plover]

The stacks is pretty minor, it's good to move it if you need to

[pulsar hill]

Is the silence from Blizzard regarding the rDruid damage build in keys a good sign or no?

[velvet cloak]

What would they say about it?

[thorn plover]

They bug fixed a good portion of it yesterday

[pulsar hill]

oh really? Which ones?

[spark river]

The instant starfire is fixed

But the cleave is still broken

[pulsar hill]

Does SotF + Regrowth give 1 or 3 stacks?

[warm basalt]

Hey - do i lifebloom myself in raid ?

[thorn plover]

Yes

[spark river]

Stacks of what?

[kind star]

In raid do you always use sotf on rejuv right?

[velvet cloak]

Towards instant cast starfire

[thorn plover]

Almost always yes

[kind star]

Gonna be my first raid in a while tomorrow :3

[spark river]

I believe it counted as 2 stacks per regrowth instead of 1

So after sotf regrowth you would basically always have an instant starfire

And people abused that

[barren dirge]

hey friends... is there a guide that covers the usage of Nature's Bounty, its combos and interactions? I don't see a pinned post or guide anywhere >.<...

[velvet cloak]

I assume they're asking about SOTF specifically because rampant growth and nature's bounty were fixed

[spark river]

Spread as many regrowths as you can

Nb heals

Thats pretty much the guide

[limpid jacinth]

Im not sure what you mean? Combos? It just heals people with Regrowth on them.

[thorn plover]

NB isn't something you play around, other than spread regrowths to as many different players as you can

[barren dirge]

oh, cool... and I see the top players drop Nurturing Dormancy to get it, that does make gameplay a bit rougher for ppl right?

[thorn plover]

Are we talking keys or raid

[barren dirge]

keys, sry

[warm basalt]

thanks. so basicallly keep it up on me at 3 stacks an spamming rejuv

[barren dirge]

i'm working on my resil 17 and thinking on experimenting with NB

[spark river]

Nb is not that influential in keys, but it is useful in keys that require high group healing

[thorn plover]

Its not a make or break in keys

[limpid jacinth]

I drop 2TV -> 1TV for NB in some keys (AA, etc)

[kind star]

I feel dumb asking that but huh whats a resil 17 🤔 ?

[limpid jacinth]

But it’s basically equivalent

[tough portal]

It has some bosses where it really shines for sure

It's a good talent

[velvet cloak]

Means the key can't go below 17 even if you fail it at 17

[spark river]

I personally drop both nd and nb, but im special

[thorn plover]

Means you have every key timed on 17 so your keys will never go lower than 17

[kind star]

Ooooh, when did they add that? TWW?

[velvet cloak]

Yeah

[thorn whale]

TWW s3

[kind star]

ah gotcha barely played early TWW

[velvet cloak]

Starts at all 12 timed

[kind star]

and ive been putting myself in a low key prison because I just wanna replace my blue helm reee xd

[barren dirge]

and dropping harmonious blooming for NB, would be sacrificing ST Heals for AoE heals right?

ok, interesting, ty for the feedback guys

[limpid jacinth]

HB is pretty unnecessary outside high keys

But yes

[tough portal]

Churros entra churros sai

[sudden rover]

why sometimes my nature's bounty resets my rg hot on party and sometimes it doesnt?

distance?

[undone linden]

thank u bonus coin

[limpid jacinth]

[thorn plover]

It refreshes if you have 31% haste and DoC is active and tracked

[sudden rover]

ah that's why

[abstract cape]

Sorry, it's probably been asked and answered before but I cannot find it. So. what does blizzard mean by druids lose their invulneralibility when entering the dark well?
And do the changes with nature's bounty change our playstyle?

[velvet cloak]

Not invulnerability, untargetable

[kind star]

what ilvl do I want for 10s to be comfortable without mechanics melting my ass kinda?

[plain steeple]

220

[low iron]

255-260

[kind star]

yeaaah sure 220 xd sounds like a bad time

[undone linden]

does it procc often

[kind star]

thanks! might farm some 8 to get upgrade then go into 10s

[plain steeple]

That’s what everyone started with in first week.
Since then they buffed our spec, nerfed the dungeons and people know the mechanics and play better routes.

[low iron]

people were doing full premade 10s with 235-245ish

[velvet cloak]

Most people started m+ higher than 220, let alone doing +10s

[low iron]

but he is probably is not only pugging but also doesnt have the information any of us had

mechanics are scary when people dont kick/know anything

[plain steeple]

I only pug and people never interrupt anything.

[vivid owl]

when i came back 6 weeks into midnight, i healed a 10 with 219 very easily, but im not new to resto druid and had a competant group who wasnt undergeared like me

[kind star]

Im still learning some of it and dont trust pug

[low iron]

like people take less damage in 14-15s then pug 10s

its actually disgusting

[kind star]

Im 250 so ill just send some then and pray

[wanton laurel]

Man Ive been pugging all day and the queue of people signing up for simple +10s are all 275+ ilvl

[kind star]

Still scarred from that last seat I ran

Why did bliz have to take our interrupt sadge

[low iron]

Yea this bonuses rolls are amazing for 10s because everyone can get mythic level gear from doing 10s for their rolls on mains and alts

Blizz have def done so really good system management this expansion for getting higher end people doing middle level content

esp with how alts are currently

[kind star]

oh I didnt even know about this

I need to read on the bonus thingy just unlocked the forge

[cursive pilot]

Higher end people are still doing higher end content, it’s just the rest with more gear you’re seeing

[signal solar]

Do u LB the crystals on lura?

And are lb bursts smart heals ?

[sudden rover]

yes

not sure it's needed tho, but I still do it

[oak garnet]

Same can be said for pug 17-18 versus organized 20s.
I'm running into a tank crisis currently with pugs

[sudden rover]

mind you I'm only doing hc lura, I'm a raid noob

[west topaz]

i will pray for you because these pugs are eternally a p1 prog

lil bros who will look at their phone 2FA like 6 times and be like "i can't remember" can't do memory game

pain

[sudden rover]

nah nah I killed it weeks ago

[west topaz]

im glad

[sudden rover]

I raidleader that shit myself

[west topaz]

GOOD

that feels like the only way to do it -_-

[sudden rover]

ye I create all my raid pugs myself. allows me to filter the bad apples

[plain steeple]

Everybloom is providing smart heals, yes.

[merry crag]

Sorry if this has been said but the update they did to druids... Did that nerf our healing, or we need to swap a talent ?

[bright swift]

it's a buff for sure, and yes you swap talents in raid

wowhead is correct

[limpid jacinth]

We’re stronger than ever.

[merry crag]

I don't even understand what the fix did or what the bug was doing

[limpid jacinth]

It’s complicated. It was giving KotG Druids extra stacks on their hero talent that gave free (instant) Starfires. You were supposed to get 1 stack = 1 Regrowth but the bug was giving 4 stacks instead so, by alternating Regrowth and Starfire, you could almost get continuous instant-cast Starfires.

[echo token]

in lorrgs are the boss spell timers IE 0:12 - 0:17 mean how long the spell cast lasts?

[limpid jacinth]

Short story: you don’t really need to know, it hasn’t changed anything for 99.5% of people.

[merry crag]

Oh I see it was the reason kotg in keys was better for dps bc of that bug

[fierce isle]

Good thing M+ healer DPS is a meme

[merry crag]

I'm lucky if I even have time in a 16+ to DPS and someone not die in the global. Unless I see everything get stunned and have time for a quick Starfire cast

[mystic crater]

I miss the days resto Druids was basically another dps

[merry crag]

I just cast a Sunfire to hit everything and maybe one Starfire in a pack when it safe and that's the extent of my 12k-16k overall DPS lol

[limpid jacinth]

25k is pretty easy to maintain when you’ve got things figured out. It’s not good but it’s not nothing.

Just practice and you’ll get more 🙂

[harsh quail]

was it df s2 or s3 whenyou would absolutely blast a boss as top dps with hotw+ catvoke?

[merry crag]

When there is no casting mobs and all the DMG is focused on the tank and have all my hots rolling on the tank , is when I feel safe to DPS. But yea knowing where and when people take DMG helps

[tough portal]

Bring back swarm man

[mystic crater]

Legion you could be a full on dps basically, too, that was pretty silly stuff

[limpid jacinth]

please no

[harsh quail]

swarm jumping on spawning adds that were supposed to get cc'ed was always so funny

[plain marsh]

swarm

[merry crag]

I know it's not the talent of choice and you should choose liveliness... But I always want to be master shapshifter and not be almost oom at the end of a boss or constantly guzzling drinks while my tank is 50 feet ahead lol... Does anyone else take MS in keys to not have to drink or is liviliness really game changer

(In high keys)

[tough portal]

You'd oom much less if you didnt press Sunfire

[merry crag]

Hah

[tough portal]

At the same time, MS over Liveliness also makes Sunfire even more useless as a damage button

[merry crag]

That's true yes

[high hornet]

is the actually resto druid bugfix an overall nerf? i truly didnt understand it exactly

[merry crag]

Dernju. Same... Scroll up just a lil bit and haste overdoser explained it

[limpid jacinth]

You’ll get a lot of people saying that Livliness is mandatory. It’s really not. Yes, it’s better healing and it’s optimal to run it. But will it be the difference between you timing a key or not? Nah, not unless you’re doing extremely cutting edge keys which, if you were, you wouldn’t be asking.

[high hornet]

for raiding

[merry crag]

Ai helped explain to me too

[kind star]

Oh I really thought MS was the go-to/optimal in M+

[merry crag]

Not go to , like 95% using liviness according to logs

[limpid jacinth]

MS is a crutch. It’s fine to run it, it’s just not the best option. The biggest danger is that it can teach you to play sub-optimally instead of forcing you to learn to play better and manage mana without it.

[merry crag]

But I like MS cause I hate drinking and I panic when my mana is at 30% and not 90% + all the time lol

That's true, deff allows u to spam heals and some dps filler and not worry about mana really

[kind star]

Ill try and go with liveliness instead then, mana barely going under 80%(also doing baby keys tho)

[limpid jacinth]

IIRC, MS is more damage if you’re going pure caster DPS (don’t quote me on that, I’m generally an idiot) but it contributes 0 healing while Livliness does.

[kind star]

I dont starfire spam every pulls but whenever I can, I dont care all that much about it.

[merry crag]

Yea, it's ok to drink 4-5 times if it means ur heals are 5% stronger and better DPS ... As long as ur tank is letting combat drop for u to drink ... Or if u are a pro, run ahead and shadowmeld and drink if ur a NE

[limpid jacinth]

My advice is to run the build that works for you but to always push yourself to learn to play more closely to the optimal build. Make small changes at a time and get closer to the ideal.

[merry crag]

Good advice 😊 I'll try to be better dad. Hah

I only find myself drinking 2-3 times now instead of 6 😜

[limpid jacinth]

Atta’ boy. Everyone drinks at times when pugging. It’s about learning to not risk your group’s safety when you do it.

[spark river]

My pugs are the reason why I am drinking

[merry crag]

Lul hah

[limpid jacinth]

11 years sober and pugs make me regret every year of it 😤

[mystic crater]

Oof

[spark river]

Disclaimer that this was a joke and that alcoholism is a serious disease

[median salmon]

That means it's a nerf then?

[main timber]

It's a nerf but if you weren't already abusing this specific tech then you will probably not even notice

[spark river]

Not really a nerf unless you were abusing it hard

[thorn plover]

Not a nerf unless you play kotg

And who tf would do that

😏

[median salmon]

Oh okay.

[spark river]

https://tenor.com/view/chuckles-im-in-danger-ralph-wiggum-the-simpsons-gif-14149962

[thorn plover]

Guess what solar

I dropped ND last night in keys 🫪

[spark river]

finally

the propaganda works

[sudden rover]

fuck ND all my homies hate ND

[thorn plover]

I definitely pushed rejuv more tho

So idk

[limpid yacht]

Do you press convoke on cd when playing wildstalker spec in raid or is it more situational? Been playing that KOTG so kinda missing that tree of life button in wildstalker spec

[thorn plover]

On cd, pre planned of course to line up with damage

[limpid yacht]

Thanks

[spark river]

yeah but you get more value out of 2 tv

like this

[bright swift]

they fixed blooming infusion ?

[spark river]

yes

[lost pagoda]

guys for mainly m+ what is the better trinket QE says volatile void is a tiny bit better https://www.wowhead.com/item=249341/volatile-void-suffuser or https://www.wowhead.com/item=249811/light-of-the-cosmic-crescendo

[limpid jacinth]

Listen to QE

[teal jungle]

Well

[spark river]

Sim qe for dungeon and trust it

Voulk didnt put in the work for nothing

[teal jungle]

Light does more dmg tho, mayhbe not considerably

qe is just healing

[lost pagoda]

Thats why im questioning it

It is a small heal difference

[thorn plover]

You used to be able to select between damage focused and healing focused but I'm not sure if that's still there

[vague nova]

If i bonus roll in feral lootspec and then swap lootspecs, can i get duplicates again or does it just add the other items to the lootpool

[teal jungle]

If the HPS is almost similar thats the things id look at. Dmg difference. How much better would the haste of suffuser feel compare to mainstat

But, I'm a relative noob so maybe im wrong

[main timber]

Have you seen how much damage it does?

[teal jungle]

Nope, thats why i said "maybe not considerably"

I have no clue

[main timber]

Yeah it is basically just 0

[teal jungle]

But it is something to think about if you do not have the knowledge

so saying "just look at qe hps" is too simple

[spark river]

You re talking to the qe guy buddy

[teal jungle]

I know

Im not saying hes wrong

[spark river]

So make a valid argument

[teal jungle]

I am you just lack comprehensive reading ability

I am not arguing which is better

I am arguing what someone thats trying to learn should consider

[main timber]

That's a bit unfair. You said a lot of words that didn't really mean anything. You asked them to consider benefits the trinket doesn't have, and it's a bit useless to just say "consider other aspects" without offering one

[teal jungle]

While also trying to learn myself

I am positing a hypothetical, but I agree thats not clear

text is a bad medium

[spark river]

You re just saying words. You need to have an argument why a person shouldnt trust qe.

[merry crag]

Group hug

[spark river]

You have none so far

[teal jungle]

Lets say that trinket does 1 million damage, but youre only looking at hps. Thats a overly simplified form of my argument

[thorn plover]

Shouldn't trust QE because it says I should get more than 31% haste. Preposterous
/s incase anyone takes things too literally

[pulsar kettle]

another beautiful morning in dg

[main timber]

The person asking just wants an answer to their question, not an essay on advantages that other trinkets they don't even own might one day have

[fallen edge]

does it make sense to run my keys first, bonus roll and then take vault?

[spark river]

We are memeing too much lately. What doc does to a mfker.

[thorn plover]

Sorry
Locked in
Serious only

[thorn plover]

Yes, Open your vault tho, maybe it changes where you target your rolls?

[harsh quail]

https://tenor.com/view/sup-bugs-bunny-gif-25289731

[teal jungle]

Well, again text is a bad medium. Maybe the people that said "Just trust QE" said that with the knowledge that the damage is irrelevant. I did not see that consideration, so I challenged that. Could I again have worded that better, maybe towards the people that give the answer. Sure

[marsh prism]

not necessarily, and if you care you can also do a dual dungeon qe top gear and a raidbots top gear and compare

[teal jungle]

But its a random discord

Just trying to learn

[fallen edge]

thx

[thorn plover]

That's offensive

[delicate blaze]

i got a leech stare in my vault tho

[teal jungle]

No harm meant

also towards the people before

[thorn plover]

I was kidding

[spark river]

A lot of work goes into qe which is why we tell u to trust it

Its the best tool available for healers

[teal jungle]

But as an honest question, it does give HPS right

[harsh quail]

I'm also pretty sure if a trinket would have some mega dmg as healertrinket it would atleast be acknowledged in the info text in qe

[teal jungle]

Someone said there was a dmg option?

[marsh prism]

dungeon mode and balanced setting

[kind star]

thank god for qe 😄 we even got qelive on classic since its soooo goood 😤

[marsh prism]

someone like girl it was me a second ago

[thorn plover]

Nance how's your tummy

[teal jungle]

And I think its great and I do trust it. The person that posted also said the difference was minor and
"This is how close other sets are to your best (pictured above). Anything close in score can be considered a sidegrade."

I guess that mightve been my point

if its 10hps difference, what other things could you consider

[thorn plover]

Does the damage focused setting on QE exist anymore

[teal jungle]

badly worded

[knotty goblet]

Anyone know if you can check what items you got post bonus-roll fix? I’m a little unsure when I got what pieces..

[teal jungle]

I tried to find that info myself as well. Best thing I could find was SavedInstances addon but I believe it logs it so its not retroactive.

[thorn plover]

Start a spreadsheet

[knotty goblet]

Little tough retroactively

[limpid jacinth]

the sky is blue, good morning to you

[knotty goblet]

But I should have in hindsight

[fierce yarrow]

What is best trinket for rdruid for m+ mixed with heart of wind, alleria or chimaerus?

[marsh prism]

I have no reason to believe otherwise but I'm on my couch

[marsh prism]

awful I didn't realise it was a peptic ulcer

[thorn plover]

Hope you get better soon, that sounds very not fun

[thorn plover]

I mean there's only max 2 items on it, assuming you rolled before the hotfix

[cyan robin]

So should all dps in M+ be done in moonkin form now? Or does cat still have a place?

[thorn plover]

3 if you took vault roll I guess

[thorn plover]

Caster form, no boomie form. Cat for hotw

[spark river]

I starfire on 5+ adds and cat otherwise

Been liking that the most

[limpid jacinth]

Same. Took cat talents but still starfire on big packs.

[cyan robin]

Why do the talent builds I see take boomie then? just for starlight conduit?

[spark river]

pathing node to sunfire

[thorn plover]

Shouldn't even take it to path to sunfire I dont think

[knotty goblet]

True. I got the POS bracers in vault, so heavily leaning into a 3rd bonus

[tough portal]

You can do the same dungeon again ans hover the bonus roll little box, it'll list out the items available.

[thorn plover]

Oh that's cool, I never noticed that

They should make it show in dungeon journal

[kind star]

so you can only get 4 rerolls atm? and its +2 per reset? just unlocked voidforge

[knotty goblet]

Top tier answer, you are a legend, thanks!

[spark river]

I dont play it, but thats what people who go full caster do

[spark river]

2 weekly + 1 if you have bad vault

[kind star]

I guess I should keep em for my raid and or 10s to replace my worst slots(blue helm and neck).

[limpid jacinth]

Would definitely recommend using them on 10s so you get Myth track items.

(Since, iirc, you’re not doing a mythic raid)

[past tusk]

you can get a rly good neck from the pvp quest chain

[kind star]

ah so 10s would give me myth gotcha, yeah will just be an heroic raid.

[kind star]

might have to check that out then

I dont want to go into raid with those 2 poopy blue item, I wanna pump!

[limpid jacinth]

🙂

[kind star]

my fault for being stuck on wanting to replace helm asap yday could have farmed 10s and stuff

[knotty goblet]

Anyone know if you can read out TI healing from details or wlogs?

[thorn plover]

TI

Drawing a blank

[knotty goblet]

Seems to be logs only, details can't differentiate

[thorn plover]

What's ti

[knotty goblet]

TV, sorry, brainfart

Thriving Vegetation

[formal path]

Is it worth moving Lifebloom to crystals on Lura? I notice that some druids do it and some don’t

[thorn plover]

Oh ya don't look at details for anything

It's not accurate

[knotty goblet]

Yeah, just wanted a quick indicator, I hadn't logged the key in question

[thorn plover]

Ah makes sense

[knotty goblet]

2/2 seems questionable, lot of risk for overhealing in keys

[harsh quail]

you dont care for overheal in keys

[knotty goblet]

More along the lines of if it's a point worth spent and potentially more use somewhere else rather than overhealing worries

Makes SOTF rejuv bombing more impactful tho if you are pinched

[spark river]

where more impactful do you see that point going