resto

[spark river]

did someone actually ask this lol

[dense lantern]

best avoided entirely

[thorn plover]

Unfortunately yes. You should see some of the DMs I get about addons

[spark river]

I was about to ask you to add a swiftmend one kekw

[thorn plover]

Cdm already does it 😬

[spark river]

but something like pandemic

so my slow brain has time to process

[thorn plover]

You want to know when it's coming up soon?

I'm not sure you can even do that

[spark river]

Yeah like 2-3 seconds before its up

My cpm at 4.5 is suffering

[thorn plover]

With VI?

Seems fine

[spark river]

Could be better

Its kinda the one thing im struggling with

[spark river]

Yeah that would be great

[thorn plover]

arcui

[inner sonnet]

😭

[spark river]

I really hate getting another addon for every simple thing ahhhhh

[thorn plover]

arcui does so much

[thorn plover]

sound on

[spark river]

Lmao

[thorn plover]

i might leave it like that

[spark river]

Too good

[inland terrace]

Looking at logs for dragons, it seems a little mixed between keeping LB on yourself vs the tank as WS. What's the logic we're using to decide?

[thorn plover]

tanks makes no sense there, theyre no where near anyone

i think its self for every single fight

[inland terrace]

That's what I thought. Max hots and SM on us, always.

[idle lake]

is 36% average uptime on locus walkers wrappings

[idle lake]

can you add custom sounds to that?

I need this every time lifebloom hits pandemic

[faint lynx]

on the bridge in NPX on the way to the last boss, the LIGHTWROUGHTS put out a dot called holy radiance, its supposed to go on 2 players, but sometimes people get 2 of the DoTs and its almost certain death if i dont have dispel up. is it just from the tank pulling more than 1 at a time or what?

[fervent mica]

theres a 2 pack at the bottom of the bridge.

[gentle nova]

2pack and then 1 in the next

u shouldnt dispel all just dispel the doubles

[faint lynx]

so the 2 pack just has a chance to put 2 dots on 1 target? its not a guarantee right

[fervent mica]

each one puts out two dots on different people, overlap is rare but possible

find the more dangerous thing there is people with the dot and face tanking the little swarmies

[hollow pond]

watching nick heal to night he is blowing his other healers out the water, when I heal....all my other raid healers blow me out the water, I get so frustrated with resto druid in raid I just cant seem to do it right.

[fervent mica]

https://questionablyepic.com/resto-druid/common-mistakes

[hollow pond]

once my computer doesnt want to be slow ill give that a look vs my logs

[hollow pond]

so talking about the CPM its not on warcraft logs that im seeing, do you guys use something else to look at it that deep, or do you jus tdo the math lol

[fervent mica]

it is on logs

[spark river]

its the casts tab

[hollow pond]

i just found it

is there a addon or some setting to help show when Lifebloom is missing outside of just a square on the healing frames sometimes those get full its hard to see. my uptime is at 54%, also do you guys focus that on melee group in raid? or ranged if grouped vs being on tank

[fervent mica]

self

[weary moss]

Lifebloomalert

[hollow pond]

I have that addon, isnt that the one that just highlights the box? or am i missing something

[fervent mica]

you have a bunch of bonus healing taken which buffs your apex a good bit

[thorn plover]

it can yell at you, make a cursor icon, make giant text, whatever you want

it doesnt highlight the box tho, thats something else you have

[hollow pond]

I was incorrect I have lifebloom glow

[thorn plover]

i might add option to add custom sounds, but im kinda not interested in developing it much anymore. i think blizz is gonna fix pandemic sound in cdm soon

[hollow pond]

I use wago and it doesnt have that so im guessing ill have to redownload curse

[thorn plover]

yeah its only on curse

you can just download it standalone from the website, you dont have to install the curse client

[idle lake]

oh wait this is a homemade addon sorry i thought u meant default cdm

[thorn plover]

default cdm doesnt even do pandemic currently

[idle lake]

thank you blizzard

[thorn plover]

ive made roughly $11 because they wont fix it

almost a monthly sub

[idle lake]

wow

sub = paid for

[thorn plover]

half a month anyway

[hollow pond]

Thanks i got it downloaded ill give it a look later

[final blade]

is using a trinket in a macro for convoke a reason it would cancel? I can't reliably reproduce it but sometimes it just doesn't cast but goes on CD, and I'm sure I'm not fat fingering something

[fervent mica]

do you have cqs on the macro?

[hallow fractal]

add /stopmacro [channeling] to the first line

[final blade]

#showtooltip
/use [nochanneling] 13
/cast [nochanneling] Nature's Swiftness
/cast Convoke the Spirits
/cqs

trinket is vaelgor

[thorn plover]

natures swiftness doesnt do anything in there anymore

[final blade]

oh they fixed it?

[thorn plover]

yea

[final blade]

where should I add stopmacro?

[thorn plover]

right under showtooltip

[thorn plover]

Damn, no druid hotfixes

[inner sonnet]

we already perfect

[gentle nova]

look what u guys done

[fervent mica]

keep seeing no kotg/doc in comments. lol

[gentle nova]

but dorki said its good

[fervent mica]

https://tenor.com/view/sorry-who-rohit-shetty-pinkvilla-who-is-it-what's-the-name-gif-11602684487777858024

[inner sonnet]

https://tenor.com/glRA12bHzNK.gif

[thorn plover]

lol ya you dont have to scroll far to find one

wild

howd you guys fuck this up that badly

[vast rapids]

I tried the build in lower keys 12-13 range and people seem to be triggered that the healer is doing dam during high hps checks. The like big void bros in MT and portal keepers in seat even though no one is dying lol

[inner sonnet]

non druids being more up to date than actual druids on talent builds, thats crazy

[olive terrace]

Insane given that the hps is still high there lol

[abstract tulip]

would it make sense to symbiosis the evoker in the m+ group instead of the tank?

[solar harbor]

Does cell work in midnight yet?

[inner sonnet]

yes

[graceful ermine]

This is so funny. I can’t believe that people who probably know nothing about the class know enough to reject people who take 2 specific talent points

There’s been enough community damage for that to happen

[gentle nova]

its nto that

its probably just shiters depleting the keys

healers dont realize no one cares about your dps, they care about how healthy you keep them during the key

[graceful ermine]

Yeah I know. I’m saying it’s hilarious that people have figured out it’s from a specific talent set up

[inner sonnet]

healthy dps = more confident dps = more damage?

[graceful ermine]

People who probably know nothing else about rdruid

[gentle nova]

yes

[graceful ermine]

Normally that’s the kind of minutia you have to be pretty deep into a spec to see, but there’s enough key destroying druids running around spamming starfire when they should be healing for the community to pick up on it

[sharp sedge]

doc is just too highskilled for dotc regulars

[proven phoenix]

dont think resto has dotc bud

thats a bear/feral thing

[sharp sedge]

same thing different name

[high hawk]

does anyone have a trink+convoke macro? i set one up but it seems to cancel my channel. do i have to set the trinket first in the order?

[thorn plover]

yes

[buoyant ruin]

Wtf did I miss about this no druid doc shit?

[silk ice]

A dps feeling comfy and safe increases their dps more than what starfire can dream of giving

[silk ice]

Druids can do about the same dps as a mistweaver now but have to take talents that nerf their healing by a significant amount, dps and tanks finally realizing healers heal

[buoyant ruin]

Ohhhhh ok good to know. Crazy

[graceful ermine]

In defense of doc, if you don’t go full koolaid and switch to keeper for it, it’s only 2 talent points. 1 point in tv and 1 in nb is not a gigantic amount of healing loss and you can really just blast big pulls and keep everyone alive through everything in your call windows

[fervent mica]

the problem isn't really the build... its the people playing it

thinking they can do all of their healing with only doc

[fathom prawn]

does anyone have a macro for mouseover nature's cure?

mine isnt working for some reason

this is what i have

#showtooltip
/Cast [@mouseover,help,nodead][]Nature's Cure

[thorn plover]

#showtooltip nature's cure
/cast [@mouseover,help] nature's cure; nature's cure

all ive used for many years

but ive switched to clicked style bindings, so no need

[fathom prawn]

why two nature's cure?

[thorn plover]

if you dont have a target, it defaults to yourself

[fathom prawn]

ahh

also, clicked style bindings?

[graceful ermine]

Your macro does basically the same thing just with the empty brackets

[graceful ermine]

Idk why your macro doesn’t work unless the capital C in cast is a problem (?)

[fathom prawn]

wait, it works if i mouse over their character, but not their frame

[graceful ermine]

Oh that’s a frame addon issue probably

[fathom prawn]

all my other macros work on unit frames tho?L

same macro

[graceful ermine]

Like with vuhdo you needed to do @ vuhdo at some point instead of @mouseover

[fathom prawn]

nah i use elvui and all my other mousovers work

and its all the same macro

[graceful ermine]

That’s bizarre

I might try turning off addons one by one and testing

[fathom prawn]

but it would bug for only one ability?

[graceful ermine]

It’s simple enough to test that you can at least rule out some addon isn’t doing something weird

Possibly Elvui itself

If it works on standard blizz frames but not on elv frames, it’s likely the culprit

[fathom prawn]

Ill have to try it i guess

or just get good at mouse over on their character lol

[graceful ermine]

Another easy thing to try, change the keybind and test it

Something could be using that keybind on elv frames specifically

[fathom prawn]

bro it was the keybind

[graceful ermine]

Yeah likely inside of elv you have that key bound to do something with the frames

[fathom prawn]

i just swapped it to shift2 and it worked

[graceful ermine]

So you need to disable that

Or point it at your macro

[fathom prawn]

ill def look into it

also, is barkskin not a thing anymore or am i blind

oh nvm im blind

[wind ermine]

Blind

[graceful ermine]

Confirmed blind. It’s in the same place it’s been since 2004

[fathom prawn]

it was also on my bars lmao

[sullen plume]

does anyone know of a similar mod to pureformances lifebloomalert for the mouse cursor lifebloom, but for swiftmend or wild growth? i used to have a WA where i had LB swiftmend and WG follow my cursor a bit below and to the right.

[grand herald]

can use WAs for that

[lyric surge]

Arcui can attach things to cursor now

[sullen plume]

oh hmm i already use arcui i'll have to try that first

[sullen plume]

you talkinga bout that fork or whatever it was? meekauras or something

[grand herald]

yeah

[sullen plume]

i'd heard it was way more limited, but i'll check it out if i can't get arcui to do it

[torpid shore]

I think all of my old class wa’s worked with the fork

[fervent mica]

a lot of stuff is private in combat, some things aren't. gl

[calm elk]

goat comment, just did a 14 on 260 alt and it never feel better

[fathom prawn]

by dont hardcast rejuv do you mean only press it after swiftmend?

[tough portal]

Mostly yeah. There will be spots where it warrants more intentional full Rejuvs on the party but not necessarily on a +14

[fathom prawn]

how do i proc sotf then? regrowth?

like for swift

[tough portal]

Wild Growth and Regrowth yeah you wouldnt want to consume fresh Rejuvs anyways

Waste of a Rejuv

Since Rejuv uptime does a lot via Abundance

[autumn vessel]

Ive noticed with my healing i have an issue pushing the bars up on occasion, i typically have 7-10 stacks of abundance and full lifebloom on tank. bars immediately will go up, and then other times i feel like i have to spam cast regrowth other times and im struggling to push bars

[fathom prawn]

wait doesnt swiftmend extend the hots

yeha icyveins shows taking that talent, should I not be taking that node?

[tough portal]

Sure, it's fine

[exotic zephyr]

Would any champion trinkets be better than hero refueling orb other than gaze of the alnseer?

For m+

[thorn plover]

drums

crucible

many trinkets

https://questionablyepic.com/live/trinkets

[exotic zephyr]

Still learning how to mess with the settings in qe live

I’m a converted dps player

[torpid shore]

Literally the same as raidbots

[prime jacinth]

Is there a link anywhere to the kotg dps m+ build? Like the call of the elder druid one?

[marsh prism]

No

There's not

[tough portal]

I shoulda been making big propaganda of the whole perma BI proc build

People would do more damage and brick even more keys and we'd be over this shit sooner

[thorn plover]

wow , that bad we cant even play it in an 8

[graceful ermine]

That’s rough buddy

[tough portal]

HAHAHAHAHA

[graceful ermine]

I’m pretty sure I could heal an 8 by only pressing starfire in doc build

Maybe I should try it

[tough portal]

Looks like this guy met someone that thought the same thing

[thorn plover]

lmao

[graceful ermine]

Okay but counterpoint: I’m him

If it doesn’t work, it’s only because the pulls are too small. Which is to say it’s the tank’s fault not mine

[plain steeple]

And now you gonna join this group to show him that his pulls are actually too small?

Just to blame him for his fault.

[graceful ermine]

Yeah I’ll be sure to type bad tank

[torpid shore]

so now cant even join on low keys to try new shit

[graceful ermine]

While I’m blasting starfires

[gentle nova]

doc build works guys

[torpid shore]

hahahahha epic

[inner sonnet]

game is done, gg

[gentle nova]

just need to pull 40 mobs and chain pull 40 mobs

[thorn plover]

the dorki one might be my favorite

need to send it into the poddy c

[uncut topaz]

Heyho, newbie here.

What is a DOC druid?

Do we catweave in m+?
The wowhead skilltree doesnt have rip skilled.

[torpid shore]

I think the guide defaults to owlweaving

[uncut topaz]

Thanks

[keen dagger]

playing WS, is cat/boomie just taste rn or is cat still better dam?

[grand herald]

boomie is better damage

[keen dagger]

👍

[floral helm]

Is healing 15s, 16s easier this season or harder than TWW season 3?

[thorn plover]

Much easier

[graceful ermine]

Key numbers are inflated by 3-4 compared to tww

A 15 is probably like a 12 was

[inner sonnet]

still DPS wont make it any easier for us

[uncut topaz]

Why do top rdruids still use catweaving then? Just looked into m+ logs and most seem to catweave.

[limpid jacinth]

Because cat does better prio damage (eg. bosses) and starfire does better AoE padding damage.

[hasty current]

dmg isnt everything

its a totally different build

[grand herald]

you dont have to go doc keeper to do boomie damag

[tough portal]

We only do highly ethical builds in this household
Non-GMO, grass-fed, organic DPS

Anxious for my buffs tomorrow they just forgot to post in the hotfixes

[zealous scarab]

comfort, feels like home

[uncut topaz]

that actually makes 100% sense, thanks 😄

[graceful ermine]

Okay but they’re buffing only shred and swipe, causing rise of the cat doc build. The monkey paw curls

[pallid dome]

Hi there I am a beginner M+ gamer sitting around 15's at the moment. I see most high players playing VI rather than Prosperity in keys, but I find having extra SOTF from the double swiftmend very handy dandy indeed for periods of damage. Do I just need to be better at pre-hotting and extending using VI? And try to maximise CDR by swiftmending someone who is about to die?

[plain steeple]

SL swipe padding was fun

[spare sand]

1 more min i AA lets go baby

we are home

[gentle nova]

you dont need that much burst from prosp in anywhere

[restive kettle]

I recently switched and think the main reason is it frees up more globals due to a reduction in re-applying hots. It allows you more time to cast other spells such as high abundance regrowth if heavy damage. I've found healing easier since switching and I haven't been trying to game any extra CD reduction by hitting low health targets. Just using on CD on lifebloom target and then holding SoTF proc for a little if helpful @pallid dome

[gentle nova]

yeah that

doesnt always have to be the LB target also, it can also be a person with a couple hots

[thorn whale]

I wish we were playing with the same build as last tier - That was fun

I want my RG’s to be lay on hands

[gentle nova]

they kinda are

XD

[thorn whale]

Not as much

But SM RG goes hard

[gentle nova]

Dont usualy do that

[thorn whale]

Think it’s good in some spots

Like inbetween the slammers in Academy

[gentle nova]

True

[thorn whale]

But tbh I haven't played high enough to know if sm rejuv is enough to top people off before next slam

[raven olive]

Where is the documentation for these buffs?

[ebon oracle]

Does anyone use ElvUI? Im not seeing Void Marked on mythic Imperator Averzian as a dispelable. Any idea how to fix?

[deft oar]

Do people need to be in range for tranq to increase their hots on them? Just thinking how important is it to get the tranq in the spatial window in lura intermission

[rustic copper]

Very important

I’m not getting one because only 1 evoker

[proven phoenix]

its very important yeah

you really want spatial for convoke and tranq

[rustic copper]

I’d be so unstoppable with spatial

I have to settle with pressing regrowth

[hardy fern]

Why is everyone going Wildstalker for mythic raid? And is everbloom still good to go even with the nerfs?

[rustic copper]

Everbloom got buffed

And it was already solid but ifs very good now if you maintain 2 rejuvs and lifebloom on yourself and swiftmend only yourself with implant

[hardy fern]

So I should be going wildstalker for mythic raiding? I had no idea

[boreal cloud]

why are people not taking fluid form with moonkin form?

[thorn whale]

It changed last wednesday yeah

[thorn whale]

Because they don't go into moonkin form, they just use the form as a pathing node to sunfire

[boreal cloud]

why not go into form?

[thorn whale]

You could, you're just losing out on some defensive/utility talents to do it

[rustic copper]

There’s a talent for dmg in caster form and a talent for 6% haste in caster form

And it evens out pretty much

[thorn whale]

(Lycara's teaching)

if u wanna read it

[boreal cloud]

ah yeah that makes sense, worth pathing through boomkin for sunfire though i guess?

[velvet cloak]

Wait hold up, it never even occured to me. Our mastery buffs the lifebloom blooms which in turn makes the aoe portion of apex even bigger

[thorn whale]

I don't think so but 🤷‍♂️ (For Quarles)

[graceful ermine]

You don’t really have great options for filling out the top of the tree anyway and sunfire is situationally useful as a button during movement

[thorn whale]

this is it, dont quote me

[rustic copper]

Yes but we were swiftmending 2 rejuvs and a lifebloom since vi existed

[boreal cloud]

i dont see the need for cat dmg abilities if ur dps rotation is with spells

[rustic copper]

It’s extremely gcd efficient

And mana efficient

[thorn whale]

See that's the point, your ST damage is not with spells

[rustic copper]

I’m giving an innervate without ms on mythic Lura

I have so much mana

10 minute fight

[boreal cloud]

ah i see you're just using starfire for aoe and cat for st

[thorn whale]

Yup

[boreal cloud]

starsurge got buffed too tho no?

[thorn whale]

It did yeah

The highest dps potential build is obviously caster

but I think you don't have GCDS to do the "highest dps" on high keys

and cat is way more ST damage for less globals

atleast that is my idea behind the build

[rapid dagger]

does the 4 [Reforestation] not turn u to tree any more ... it did and im in a raid and is not doing it

incarn *

[rustic copper]

Only stacks in combat

And it’s not good anymore

[rapid dagger]

ohok

[cedar kindle]

Ragnon was saying in his last video that he thinks that nature's swiftness - convoke might finally be fixed. Has there been any evidence of this?

[thorn whale]

who tf is Ragnon

but yes it's true

[gentle nova]

We knew this 2 weeks ago

[thorn whale]

Ragnon told us

[spark river]

Youtuber

[sacred wasp]

ragnon these

[spare sand]

MT is giving me ptsd with these glaives holy

https://tenor.com/view/vietnam-flashback-traumatized-cat-gif-7852054576948114551

[gentle nova]

Healer heal

If youre not playing nb youre trolling

[tough portal]

I dont think this is a bad idea but also I'm over the Starfire on packs thing too

Would rather just full bleed a big mob

And full heal

[thorn whale]

I think you hotw rip a big mob and then if u have leftover time u just send a starfire or two

[tough portal]

Swapping liveliness to MS nerfs your low commitment damage to buff Starfire

And without MS and without the 25% magic, Starfire is sad

[thorn whale]

I'm playing liveliness with this

[tough portal]

So like felt pretty pointless

I dont think you do more damage with Starfire

Than 2 Rakes

Or Thrashweaving

[thorn whale]

Probably not, only if you can spam starfire

[tough portal]

Like I played that

For a few keys

[golden siren]

Wouldnt MS be more priodamage for cat aswell? Or not?

[tough portal]

I dont think the Starfire is a gain standing alone like that without supporting damage talents

[thorn whale]

honestly face Imma just listen to you on this one, I have no idea

[tough portal]

No, Liveliness is much better for cat damage especially when you dont Convoke in Cat as often

[gentle nova]

Bleeds get a shit ton from liveliness, including ff

[tough portal]

Cat Convokes can help MS catch up but otherwise Liveliness clears

Yeah FF is so big

For Liveliness to buff

[golden siren]

Alright i see

Didnt realise ff got buff aswell, thats big

[tough portal]

I was doing that thing for a bit, idk it felt like numerically it was just a sidegrade

[thorn whale]

Love ur name

brb key

[velvet cloak]

Liveliness only makes it tick down faster, no? So unless you have 100% uptime it's not an actual damage increase

Or does it increase tick rate but not reduce duration?

[tough portal]

[gentle nova]

[smoky sail]

[half narwhal]

Hay guys , Since Midnight came out i have been working on a guardian Druid , And loving it but sill just on L plates , But my wife wants to become a healer in Midnight and she runs a holy priest , I want to help her switch to Guardian Druid but don't know much about it , IS there any good resources to learn from ?

Sorry Resto

[spark river]

She can start by reading the wowhead guide

[smoky sail]

wowhead is fine, then you have dreamgrove and qe also has a section about resto. but the later two are more advanced

wowhead covers the bases

[half narwhal]

Thanks Guys , 🙂

[spare sand]

mc 18

https://tenor.com/view/batman-thinking-gif-18107621495886085895

[tough portal]

Very diverse set of spells

[gentle nova]

😹

[spare sand]

ngl i cant find time to cast anything dps related xd

party constantly dropping to 20% hp

and starfire cast is taking 2 business days to cast

[calm elk]

It getting better in the high key where people can dodge stuff

[spare sand]

well its from 18

[calm elk]

well gluck then

I can hard cast lava burst on my rsham at 18 kek

[gentle nova]

But dorki said starfire is good

You didnt see his rdruid video guide?

[calm elk]

who the fuck is dorki

[spare sand]

mentally have to prepare myself for this for about 2-3 hours before ill try to list it and deplete on vexamus

[thorn whale]

@tough portal I think i can do way more dps, went from a 12 seat to 18 seat so I had no idea what the fk did damage

but yeah i dont really press starfire

[tough portal]

Yeah it's ass

Half the time you commit to a Starfire you wish you hadnt

And coulda gotten a Rake in half the time casting

[inner sonnet]

I will be cheering for you mate

[thorn whale]

At the end of some packs I could starfire way more when danger mob is dead

But yeah I think locking yourself is just not worth

[hardy canopy]

or tank dies on first pull

typically

[tough portal]

Also holy shit man evokers just dont press wall

I did a Seat earlier in the night

Just a 15 but this evoker was completely allergic to pressing defensive before taking damage

Pressed it a lot, always after taking a full dot

[hardy canopy]

i had the impression evokers were paper but its just that the ones i played with are bad

and they have 2 fucking charges

and time dilation

[proven phoenix]

only pres has time dilation

its their external

[calm elk]

Aug get carry to high key alot

[proven phoenix]

but yeah evoker is one of those specs that has a lot of active survivability but low passive tankiness

[hardy canopy]

huh

whats the thing that makes aug stagger the dmg then

[proven phoenix]

breath of eons

its a talent called stretch time, damage taken during breath of eons is staggered on them

[hardy canopy]

oh

cus the icon looks like time dilation on my frames

[thorn whale]

I'm seeing a lot of things rn

[tough portal]

Look at these fucking timestamps lmao

[thorn whale]

Like people don't know how their defensives work

Pre-AMS and Cloak and stuff

they just don't press em

I am looking at the run and I feel like I could be healing half if people knew what to do

[tough portal]

Bro everytime

[thorn whale]

Hahaha it's goated

[tough portal]

The big timeskips are just no Obsidian Scales casts in between

[spare sand]

https://tenor.com/view/disgusted-shocked-shook-gif-18164232687551362980

[calm elk]

press defensive at 20% hp

[tough portal]

EVERYTIME BRO

There are like 2 competent obsidian scales casts in this log

[flint void]

can someone roast me? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/a:pdyxzkf1XKbv8mQr?fight=30&type=healing&source=5

[tough portal]

Just crazy stuff bro

[thorn whale]

I'm not even using self LB and I feel like I take 0 damage compared to everyone else

And I still have 0 vers

People are just not clicking stuff to live

I'm going into 20resil keys this weekend so I gotta suffer through the 18-19's to get to know the damage a bit

but man I'm looking forward to play with real people again

[desert kayak]

average aug experience tbh

they are somehow even worse than before

[flint void]

not average aug. you just have a LOAD of meta-chasers

they're not "aug" per-se, they're "whatever archon/my favorite streamer/.... says 'S' rank is"

[thorn whale]

Nothing wrong with that

[flint void]

seriously fuck this list, burn it with fire https://www.archon.gg/wow/tier-list/dps-rankings/mythic-plus/10/all-dungeons/this-week

[flint void]

the problem with meta-chasers is that whatever is "s" gets padded with tons of bad players who only play it because it's meta

[delicate crane]

Nah bro they are good, not 90% of boosted that abuse the fact that you can't see how bad they are

[distant birch]

I only play meta if i push for title tbh

No point playing sth else

[flint void]

if i see someone in a 16-20 that actually dares to play something off-meta, you know they're a true stan of the specific spec and know that their personal player skill is probably better than meta-andy#512

[thorn whale]

Idk this hate towards "meta chasing" is weird

[desert kayak]

ye

[thorn whale]

If you're good yourself it doesn't matter

[desert kayak]

people just play what is most likely to get them invited

[thorn whale]

you get above the "bad" meta players

[flint void]

damage key% on aug is not super-indicative. if your co-players aren't pumping, you yourself will not get much attributed.

[distant birch]

Bad players are bad regardless of playing 1 spec or 10

[desert kayak]

aug is a bit of a special case just because of how it works but good players are good players regardless

[thorn whale]

W's

[delicate crane]

Aug being below 10 perma is not other's fault tbh, very good aug are above other dps, so the worst the others are the higher of they they should be

[flint void]

start comparing nDps instead of rDps for aug (https://www.archon.gg/ffxiv/articles/help/a-guide-to-r-dps-n-dps-a-dps-and-c-dps)

[tough portal]

[desert kayak]

[tired gale]

💀

[thorn whale]

Face tell me I have to study

You're smart

I listen

[tough portal]

Studying is rly good

If you study now you make more time to play wow when catweaving is strong next year

[thorn whale]

Fk it you got me convinced

Time to read about rental laws

[tough portal]

Goodness me

[thorn whale]

VERY entertaining

[spare sand]

20 tries 18 seat resi we didnt make to 1st boss

damn

xD

[stoic hornet]

hello. What is the addon for audio cues on lifebloom expire etc?

heard it on some stream the guy called it "purrformance" something

[calm elk]

LifebloomAlert

but you need to disable, it is quiet annoy

[marsh prism]

log the fuck in

[flint void]

i'm waiting on -ultimate

https://tenor.com/nVIcQtBJ0Oy.gif

[marsh prism]

i am very keen

what job do you play

[flint void]

/ /

and if you nag hard enough, i maybe dare to

i also have WAY to much art of my catgirl

[bright swift]

I'll likely play WHM this time

[flint void]

profile picture included

[bright swift]

Summoner is not allowed...

[flint void]

Even got one of the pieces printed on my mouse pad

group picture of my last savage team

[proven phoenix]

thats really sick

I love that

[flint void]

the mousemat was about $100, the art on it was a bit more

1200mm x 600 mm

[proven phoenix]

I love art pieces like that of my characters or my friends

a lot of my friends are artists so I have a bunch of art that people have made for me

I ended up just saving it all in a personal discord

[flint void]

mine was made by my artist friend, so i had a discount

[proven phoenix]

yeah its very good

[flint void]

one of my teammate was a heavy penumbra enjoyer, as you can see

[broken socket]

Hi guys, I read through the FAQ, guides, etc, and I think I'm doing a decent job. Can someone have a look at our Chima kill and point out improvements? I guess I should convoke more, and I missed one Tranq
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/V3RXFxqkgcf1p8QG?fight=last&type=summary

[flint void]

Convoke on cooldown ?
your Rejuvs and regrowths are about equal in cast overview?

Lifebloom uptime that you use on yourself

[spark river]

You re not convoking and tranqing

That was the difference in this log

Everything else seems fine

[flint void]

this is the one problematic thing

[thorn whale]

You're not casting enough

Is the actual problem

[spark river]

He d still be 90+ parse even at 47 cpm

[livid hearth]

oh u dont lifebloom tank all the time? Learning druid

[spark river]

If he just lined up convoke and tranq properly

But yeah should press more buttons

[flint void]

https://lorrgs.io/spec_ranking/druid-restoration/chimaerus-the-undreamt-god take this, slap some of it on a timeline, you see every single druid and their mother are placing their first convoke at about 15-seconds and stuff.

no need to re-invent the wheel when other people have rolling wheels

[broken socket]

What do you mean? Should I convoke then Tranq?

[spark river]

In some situations yes

[broken socket]

Coool, thanks! I'll check this

[flint void]

ForestWalk is a class-tree talent that makes your healing on yourself do on average 8-16% more healing

your everbloom pings of the healing your lifebloom is doing

putting lifebloom on yourself means everbloom goes brrr harder

[tough portal]

4 DPS deaths to the ground puddle on Derelict Duo
2 pre-stepping into the puddle before the new splatter hit
2 standing still on the new splatter puddle, a melee too, not even greeding a cast.

[livid hearth]

Oh i didnt read the context, is it a different talent tree ur talking about?

[tough portal]

Crazystyle

[broken socket]

I was trying to line convoke with the Consumption (I don't know how is it named in English, where Chima pulls everyone towards it)

But I will check that page

[spark river]

Also work on your abundance

8.5 average is kinda low

[fallen dune]

this affects the blooms too?

[thorn whale]

This is fixed by just casting more

[flint void]

[marsh prism]

dope

[broken socket]

Yeah do not mention that. This was our second kill, and half the raid was their first 🙂

[marsh prism]

i tried melee for heavyweight and it was ok but im back to sage i dont trust anyone else

[spark river]

Yeah im just getting general info out there from the log I opened

[broken socket]

thanks for the tip,s quite a bit to read and analyze 😄

[flint void]

Try to have ever single Soul of the forest proc from swiftmend to be a rejuv

[tough portal]

I was venting about my Windrunner Spire run mate

Nothing about your log

[livid hearth]

but the picture u loaded says something about casting regrowth not healing on yourself

[broken socket]

Oh lol. I know our log can show some...disasters xD

[spark river]

Also never dropped under 25% mana wise but still mana potting is very weird

[torpid shore]

Who said you wouldn't need the equations in real life

[flint void]

every timeyou cast regrowth (all the time), ALL healing on yourself is increased by 16%, also you run faster

[livid hearth]

ok asking just because im out of the loop of conversation. Its not about the best rotation right? Seems like it just boosts movement speed not increases your total group healing or osmething?

[flint void]

you're extremely out of the loop. let me break it down very slowly:

• Casting regrowth on anyone makes all healing on yourself be 16% more healing
• Everbloom apex talent and Lifebloom's "blooms" scale of the healing lifebloom does
• Lifebloom on yourself heals for 16% more when you have casted regrowth within the last 6 seconds (100% uptime)

and taken from our friend's log:

from our friend's log, if they decided to not take forest walk and/or put lifebloom on someone else, they'd have done 4.491 Healing per second less

[zenith pike]

Mastershapeshifter or Liveliness ?

[thorn whale]

Are you AI?

[flint void]

I have tism god damn it, stop comparing me to AI

[thorn whale]

W

[tired gale]

should i just bloom myself in raid?

and keep 100% uptime

[flint void]

@livid hearth the decision by our friend to put lifebloom on themselves increased their healing by 3.4%

[flint void]

[hard loom]

I mean did you literally just read the above

🤣🤣🤣

[flint void]

it also means you can put your ass in the melee group to have better reach on efflorence

[livid hearth]

ok ty for the thorough explanation. I went into the talent tree to understand the apex talent more. Is this putting lifebloom onyourself your personal theory/playstyle or known playstyle every resto plays?

[cursive pilot]

Says on the tool tip your ms and heal received so idk where you’re getting group anything

[flint void]

known for every single resto druid in raid

[livid hearth]

i mostly polay m+, is it same for m+?

[cursive pilot]

Raid yourself, m+ bounce

[livid hearth]

ok when you say bounce how do u mean

[flint void]

it depends, the damage profile of a raid and a m+ is different

m+ has more tank damage and less party-wide damage

[thorn whale]

M+ it depends on damage intake. You LB the one taking the most damage in ST dot scenarios, LB the tank in heavy tank pulls and LB yourself in aoe scenarios

[cursive pilot]

^

[flint void]

^

i also sometimes put lb on the squishiest of the dps (evoker/...)

[livid hearth]

ok ty. I never thoroughly read apex talent before i only knew it stacked but now that i read it thoroughly, what is the blooming frenzy on rank3?

[flint void]

if swiftmend -> soul of the forest: Everbloom goes brrapppp

[livid hearth]

my friend play resto and im lvling a resto, so im learning stuff for us. I main mage, so he can put lb on me and i can stand in group in aoe? and maybe lvb on tank on bossfights or huge bleed on tank like aa first pack?

[flint void]

with a satisfying green pulse coming out of their ass

[thorn whale]

Tanks rarely take damage on boss fights honestly

[flint void]

do not take avoidable damage.

in m+, tanks can maintain themselves in bossfights

[tired gale]

Is this aberus again?

When we lb ourselves

[livid hearth]

yeah i avoid dmg, just because someone said they use it on squishy dps like evoker i thought i as a mage am squishiest dps in groupo

[flint void]

we lb ourselves because of forestwalk, apex talent and having agency in where we place our efflorence. the alternative of putting it on the tank means only one person stands in your efflorence most o the time

on larger bosses like mythic dragons,...

[livid hearth]

i read on guide that u use the connection spell with another player on squishy dps instead of tank so yesterday we changed the style so he put it on me instead of tank

[cursive pilot]

Symb relationship

[flint void]

my symboitic relationship usually sits on the tank, it's safe there

moving that around is too much of a hassle

[livid hearth]

yeah that, i was reading wowhead or icyveins guide and they said tank dont need that extra healing so put it on squishy dps or something

until yesterday he used default on tank every dungeon, after reading the guide we used it on me as a mage yesterday

[cursive pilot]

Personal choice id say

I put it on a squish

[marsh prism]

game comes off maint at start of wow raid time thats actually evil

[livid hearth]

so about the lifebloom on yourself in raid but in m+ what was the right decision then? Squishy dps as well on aoe and tank on singletarget bossfights?

[flint void]

just don't be me and do a +16 AA and realise running out and in the dungeon turned my tank into: "a hostile player" for a tick, removing my symbiotic relationship before we start the 16 AA and didn't realise it wasn't on until the final boss of the dungeon

[cursive pilot]

#resto message

[livid hearth]

ok lb tank on huge singletarget like boss/aa first pull but yourself and stand in group on huge aoepulls

ty

[zenith pike]

Mastershapeshifter or Liveliness ?

[plain steeple]

Do you need mana in raid? -> MS
Do you need healing in raid? -> Embrace
Do you play M+? -> MS

Currently liveliness is barely providing any healing bonus, less damage than MS and gives no QoL.

[thorn whale]

Depends on what dmg talents you’re playing

[zenith pike]

i need mana in m+ ^^

[thorn whale]

If you need mana in m+ then it’s a gameplay issue I’m afraid

[plain steeple]

Then that might be a matter of playstyle, but also MS will help you a lot.

[zenith pike]

with shitty groups

i pugging

[thorn whale]

In what key level

[zenith pike]

all the time

18

[plain steeple]

In my 120k hps Seat yesterday I also needed MS. It was very helpful for my mana.

[flint void]

Shadowmeld-drink-tech
Drinking for 2 seconds into tiger-dash to catch-up to the team tech

[thorn whale]

Idk I just did 18 seat and I only took a small sip before 3rd boss area

[plain steeple]

Alliance enjoyers

[zenith pike]

then good group 😄

[flint void]

Nelf druid is just objectively BiS for m+

[thorn whale]

You’re coping a bit

[flint void]

Haronir is kinda nice in raid, cuz the extra crit heal on your always-critting regrowth

[plain steeple]

You have already lost me playing Ally.

[flint void]

I too am a Lok'tar ogar enjoyer

[thorn whale]

If u have mana issues then go caster talents and play MS

[spare sand]

do we have a list of soothe targets?

[thorn whale]

Or fix your gameplay

Up to you

[zenith pike]

i dont like the boomie 🙁

[flint void]

but you cannot disagree that wherever applicable this season, Nelf Rdruid and everyone else being Dwarves is kinda bis

[thorn whale]

Well then you’re left with option no 1 😂

[zenith pike]

In some dungeons I have no mana problems, and in others I have very strong

Depends on How Good is the group

[thorn whale]

Projecting are we

Find timers to drink then

[haughty ibex]

wdyem

also dungeons have so much rp there is time to drink in all of them

even just 3 seconds boss spawn time

[proper horizon]

i'm playing some 18s with premades and 18s with pugs, pugs dont know how to use defensives.. have to roll hots all the time cuz most of them are clueless on damage patterns

[thorn whale]

Bro I'm clueless on damage patterns

I just went from a 12 to an 18 seat with zero idea

I'm overhealing as fk

I did not have mana issues

[tough portal]

Ok but chill tho? Why you acting up

[zenith pike]

That was he Said

[tough portal]

You're either drinking heavily or playing MS and sometimes both on all your push keys logged

[proper horizon]

caught in 4k

[thorn whale]

That's not really caught in 4k tho is it

[tough portal]

Just coming on strong for no reason

[thorn whale]

That's doing exactly what I said

Play MS or drink if you have timers where u feel like you need mana

[tough portal]

To what purpose tho

[fallen dune]

but u were the one yesterday telling me that mana problems is only for bad players which only had to get good

[zenith pike]

LOL

[fallen dune]

which i agree tho, but funny

[zenith pike]

Bullshit

[thorn whale]

Are we being funny for no reason rn?

[tough portal]

Yeah it's just pointless flame

So random

[thorn whale]

"My teammates are bad so I have mana issues"

[fallen dune]

i mean i agree that good players manage better mana

[thorn whale]

vs what I'm saying is "I'm missplaying, So i adjust in the key to make up for it?"

Like hello?

[proper horizon]

sometime even playing MS doesnt help, with a couple of groups i had legit zero time to gain mana with MS, pit 18 people not using a single dispell/freedom/removal for slows dot etc... its just who you're playing with.. premade teams can manage things better and give us time to gain mana with MS. On top of that, the player skill is relevant ofc. Very simple

[broken socket]

This is great. So the smart thing to do is convoke in around the 10s mark so you have convoke back just for Consume, they basically pop it on CD and it synchronizes with Consume phases. Also Tranq on first Consume. Will try this next week!

[zenith pike]

Thx ♥️

[hybrid tangle]

the worst is when you take your undergeared healer into a high key but it's fine because you have your mana biscuits, oh wait Blizzard changed them to health biscuits in the patch

[broken socket]

(sorry for bringin up the old topic, I was in a meeting)

[flint void]

Lorrgs does not work in every scenario, but for some bosses it just lines up and you see everyone and their mum use their cooldowns in the same places

[broken socket]

Yeah, makes sense. Will keep this site in mind, didn't know about it

[proper horizon]

first 0.5 dungeon i was like -_- goddammn

[haughty ibex]

I mean could u share a log of a dungeon u struggled with then cuz im curious

[thorn whale]

idk @tough portal that was random - I think telling people to focus on themselves when their excuse is "My teammates are bad" is legit

[tough portal]

Tact tho mate, no?

Like

[thorn whale]

I said the same thing further up and got the reply "no its my teammates"

Sure I can write "I'm sorry you feel that way"

[flint void]

trying to git-better is always a good idea

[thorn whale]

I gave advice based on talents

and said it was "it's a gameplay issue I'm afraid"

guess hands off keyboard and ignore is the best play then

[fallen dune]

btw, if teammates play like crap, its mostly their fault, idk why is it that bad to state that

[thorn whale]

it's useless

[fallen dune]

its not

[thorn whale]

ok

[tough portal]

Big gulf between "lmao you're just playing bad gotta play better hahaha lmao" and "if you have mana issues just drink or play MS"

[thorn whale]

hands off keyboard

[haughty ibex]

but in an 18 or whatever if they are trolling they are prob gonna die

[marsh prism]

yeah it is its a non-starter

[polar lichen]

if you are eager to conclude your teammates play like crap you stop looking for ways to improve

[west topaz]

nexusPT does feel super bad if teammates are bad

[haughty ibex]

like u not even gonna need to heal them is legit mana saving

[tough portal]

Cuz like truthfully we dont know if it's true or not

[fallen dune]

thats not what i said xDXDXD wtf

[limpid jacinth]

some real primadonna energy tonight

[tough portal]

Different groups take more or less damage than others in the same dungeon all the time

[zenith pike]

Chill mates. So im a Bad Player - Yep. Thx 😂

[marsh prism]

none of you care about reading each other rn btw and its fine but you can all chill for sure

[fallen dune]

i mean u can improve, but why would u change a gameplay style to a less efficient one only bc a guy cant use his defs on good situations

[tough portal]

I dont disagree with focus on what you can control, I disagree with "if you're having mana problems you're just playing bad"

[west topaz]

relatable

[polar lichen]

if you refuse to conclude your teammates play like crap sometimes that's probably also bad tbh, I basically had to have my friend grab me by the shoulders and shake me before is stopped feeling personally at fault whenever someone walked off a cliff or sth

[fallen dune]

im not undertsanding ur point, u first say that u should not blame teammates and now u say its fine?

[tough portal]

People just flip flop on the side of the argument they're on depending on who they wanna fight

[west topaz]

new healers always go thru feeling bad when others are bad, it's why certain kinds of people play healer. self sacrifice type

[fallen dune]

xD yea im feeling that vibe too much in this discord

[west topaz]

its a phase

[polar lichen]

I don't wanna fight anyone, I'm weak and frail

[forest hull]

Is there a way to track when call of the elder druid is available - i.e. when the coted DEBUFF drop off? i dont wanna keep looking up at my debuff list.

Any addons? any way to add it to cdm?

[proper horizon]

true until you meet people in seat 18 that dont give a fuck about chains and u have to heal the whole 4 subjugators without a single dispel,, really poor defensives usage or just missed kicks and casts flying around

[fallen dune]

someone said yesterday there was a debuff, but couldnt check on that yet

[west topaz]

if people are inting in a 18 it's ok to be mad

[limpid jacinth]

you can be mad but it doesn’t really benefit you

[mortal fjord]

Stop measuring your dicks

[west topaz]

some of us overclock brain when mad

secret tech

[forest hull]

There is a debuff, it's icon looks like the Heart of the Wild icon. I'd prefer this as an icon on cdm though...

[proper horizon]

sorry for healing 17/18s with 273 il

[marsh prism]

hang on like sorry also am i fucking stupid we play ms anyway with the caster buffs right

in what world are you still taking liveliness in keys

[thorn whale]

if you don't play caster talents

[cursive pilot]

She doesn’t like using caster

[zenith pike]

I dont play caster Talents. I hate it

[marsh prism]

oh ok. i dont either

yeah

valid

[west topaz]

i took them anyway because i like flapping as chicken when theres healing to be done just to hear the discord worrying

redeemed it for me

[marsh prism]

its seriously the most ass gameplay

[zenith pike]

A key has never failed due to a lack of damage from me

[marsh prism]

i love to sit there for 3 seconds doing NOTHING

[west topaz]

it is pretty weird

[limpid jacinth]

starfire…. loading…… ok.

[cursive pilot]

Dead mage by end of 3 seconds

[west topaz]

mage fault

[marsh prism]

cat is literally just seamless

effortless

[proper horizon]

'let me do damage to heal my teammates' mechanic approaches and hots are not rolling yet

[limpid jacinth]

tbh, your fault for being in a group with a mage

[west topaz]

mage bitches always be standing in max amount of stuff

[cursive pilot]

[marsh prism]

i feel a bit ill but i will stream bird prog anyway

[limpid jacinth]

Are you still enjoying it?

[marsh prism]

yes

[limpid jacinth]

[marsh prism]

we are going to be cleaning up second p1 tonight

[proper horizon]

i had to script premade groups addon to remove any key with mages.. unhealable this season

[limpid jacinth]

THIS PERSON GETS IT

[west topaz]

arc raiders new beach map update dropped today so i can feel happy again before i inevitably must chickenheal later

[zenith pike]

No its the aug for me 😂

[proper horizon]

Augs are fine, if they feel squishy af they are just trolling

mages are just paper

1 dot and their hp drop 30/40% x tick regardless of defensives

[west topaz]

evokers are very nice people who flapcarry me like a baby in magisters to the clicky thing

i miss the aug that flapped me in ara kara adds to spiderboss....

nobody else did that for me

[limpid jacinth]

Aug only feels squishy because unholy, devour, and demo are basically immortal

So everything else feels decidedly mortal

[proper horizon]

devourer is nosense, met a guy with smth like 16% leech

[solid hemlock]

Had an arcane mage in one of my last groups. Don’t breathe on those wrong

[proper horizon]

never turned my eyes on his frame

[haughty ibex]

@zenith pike u are clipping ur rejuvs the entire time im p sure

like u cannot keep refreshing them when they alr have it

but there must be smth more because I don’t get how u can get to 10% mana in 1 boss fight with aug and innervate that never should happen

[zenith pike]

Heavy dmg? And no time to Deal dmg on Boss

[haughty ibex]

yeah ik that boss is heavy dmg but going from 100 to 0 in 3 mins is not normal

u have 100% uptime in rejuvs even if there is downtime on that boss

only on that boss

like ofc ur manaless by the end of it

i panic too on it so i get u but legit stop pressing it and ur mana is back

[proper horizon]

a question for the big leagues, how do you manage to heal Magister's absorb on tanks? even with 8+ rejuves, using a couple of regrowth with NS and Swiftmend these mf wont go up...

[zenith pike]

Refreshing When? Its Out?

[haughty ibex]

yeah?

with sotf

[zenith pike]

Sotf? Sorry im german

[haughty ibex]

soul of the forest

[marsh prism]

thats ok we forgive you

[proper horizon]

is fine doing like 2-3 rejuv then swift Soft>rejuv? or its too low/much

[bright swift]

I don't

[haughty ibex]

i mean ye depends on wat dmg u are expecting

[marsh prism]

we have the funniest german guy alive in our raid

so im a little sympathetic

live for bird btw

[bright swift]

how often do you raid wtf

[limpid jacinth]

He’s already hot’d so I just SM and throw 3ish Regrowths at him

[zenith pike]

And When all hots out then Regrowth Spam?

[limpid jacinth]

Yes

[knotty goblet]

Not much else you can do?

[marsh prism]

this is our last 3rd night

[haughty ibex]

yes, but that boss fight u won’t need to spam rg on the same person more than once lowkey

[zenith pike]

Ok

[haughty ibex]

on the big aoe use convoke / tranq and coordinate with ur aug for zeph for when ur a bit dry

only bone infusion is scary, then the ice dot is only on 2x people so they are kind of fine, move lb on one if u rly want and rg the other

ggez

[mortal fjord]

Which boss u r talking about?

[zenith pike]

I think pit. But I dont know

[haughty ibex]

last boss pit

ye i mean is the one that i saw in the log had most mana problems

[zenith pike]

Yes. Thank you

[haughty ibex]

also pls start running either incap roar or typhoon

in pugs esp

[proper horizon]

that's what i do but looks like its not enough, full hots, SM, regrowth,regrowth, regrowth with NS and he's still under absorb... its me or hes not self healing at all during that phase?

[haughty ibex]

wat tank and also depends on his cds

if tank is dry id bark him

[proper horizon]

monk

i always bark him when he asks

[haughty ibex]

but u should play only i think 2x of those freak mobs so is kind of fine, u see when the heal absorb is coming out so u can press everything on him and then just rg

[proper horizon]

ye that's what i do, i dont think he gets that absorb is twice his health and i dont have a 500k instant healing button xdd

[haughty ibex]

idk tell him to pot 💯

[thorn whale]

[marsh prism]

https://open.spotify.com/track/5YZXVNIzaJquPCaSCePq98?si=cab86353556d4f2b

actually unreal

[sly pivot]

if I've got wep from nexus is vault just a cat/bear angle?

[storm kettle]

Depends on trinket situation + which bosses you killed on mythic

[sly pivot]

don't mythic raid, I've got heart of wind and gift of light

[radiant narwhal]

@marsh prism are you guys just a 3 night guild now?

[marsh prism]

no

just for first X weeks

we did first 4 weeks in manaforge and it was a bad arbitrary number

[radiant narwhal]

X being however long the tier lasts?

[marsh prism]

nah

this is last tuesdy

[bright swift]

So you're a 3 day guild

this is like week 5

[radiant narwhal]

Hahaha

We call ourselves a 2 day guild because we only do M prog on 2 days a week

[marsh prism]

im not feeling well and not up for this kind of argument

it's just nice to have a completely separate day for farm. as a 2night that is absolute ass

[radiant narwhal]

Valid

[marsh prism]

whya re you interested.

[radiant narwhal]

Just saw you guys are raiding again

Wa curious cause I know da bishes have gone from 2-3 nights officially

Was wondering if you’d done the same

[marsh prism]

ooo

we might

[silent river]

can someone link that dps post for 12.0.5

[marsh prism]

here

[silent river]

thanks!

[marsh prism]

np

[marsh prism]

my tummy hurtsso bad

[thorn plover]

Gm

[limpid jacinth]

morning

[restive kettle]

Stupid question what does that 2 min healer debuff in Nexus point actually do?

[fallen dune]

Redirects the healing

100%

[restive kettle]

So none of the healing will be received by the target and it will all go to the enemy

I just see some people not dispelling it, I'm guessing as they're not expecting to put healing through that person

[fallen dune]

Im not sure if it just goes to both

Bc i usually cant dispel it and i dont feel like with the absorbs

[frosty verge]

It's called transference and is not an interruptible cast but can be CC'd

[velvet cloak]

Does it stop their cast fully or do they just restart it instantly?

[thorn plover]

If you just keep up with it from the very first one it's never up more than a few seconds

[fallen dune]

Are u sure it can be ccd? Its a debuff

[thorn whale]

@tough portal

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/212765839496052737/1488950095956283463/image0.gif

I use GIF like this?

[tough portal]

[velvet cloak]

I assume they mean the initial cast is not interruptible, but hard CC stops the cast for the duration of the CC

[tough portal]

(pit is cheating, piss dungeon)

[thorn whale]

Not wrong

[marsh prism]

wtf lol

[thorn whale]

it's warranted

[marsh prism]

no just the gif is like

uncanny

[thorn whale]

Ah

[kind star]

so huh how come I get the lindormi's guidance buff on myself randomly sometime after a key ? rofl, blizzard trying to nerf me D:

[mortal oyster]

hey folks, my friends after a soothe / dispell macro for the same key if possible.
He doesn't have discord.,can anyone make/copy one over please if possible. Thank you in advance

[fallen pike]

is it a big upgrade to go from a 285 crafter to a 289 myth weapon overall? is it worth farming with rolls?

[bright swift]

it's like 20 int and a bit of secondaries

it's not massive no

[grizzled seal]

It's not as big as getting the right piece but if you have trinkets and jewelry then it's the best you can get

[lament river]

Is it woth crafting this week ore upgrade gear with crest?

[grizzled seal]

Upgrading is always better than crafting unless you are getting an embellishment

[lament river]

Ty for info

[thorn whale]

guys is my character ok?

the rings are mythic

just 0 crests

cant wait to get alleria neck tomorrow

[spark river]

Those trinkets disgust me

[vocal fractal]

Hey, I know this has been asked multiple times but at this point I've tried literally everything and it doesn't want to work.
I have a simple macro

#showtooltip
/cast Heart of the Wild```
I am in moonking form. The macro does not change icon or spell. It always tries to use the cat heart of the wild spell.
I've clicked the spellbook spell in the macro, I've tried ids, form ids etc. It just doesnt want to work today.
It was working perfectly yesterday.
Any help would be appreciated

[dry ice]

New to rdruid. Can I do a cancel form macro for convoke? I keep accidentally hitting it in moonkin form like a bum. Like, have two seperate binds. One for dps, one for actual healing?

Or is there an even easier way?

[kind star]

what are you doing in moonkin form to begin with tho?

[vocal fractal]

casting starfire. New build = big dmg = insane heal for 15sec

think it was dorki's idea

[kind star]

dpsing in caster better than moonkin tho due to some bug? unless some funky new build/fix that I aint aware of

[dry ice]

Its in the recommended build

[vocal fractal]

automatically puts me in boomy as soon as I wrath

yy

but why does my macro not work

[pulsar kettle]

fluid form isnt in the reccomended build

which is why your going into boomie form

[dry ice]

Oh, rip

[spark river]

Why didnt dorki say that

[pulsar kettle]

dorki is a balding idiot

[dry ice]

But does a cancel form work on a spell like convoke?

I've done the same on accident when going bear. I know its a noob move

[thorn plover]

He doesn't even know what the talents are called that's he's using...

[vestal lotus]

are you guys taking master shapeshifter now in raid? or

[spark river]

Depends

[thorn plover]

Depends if you have mana issues

If you play well you shouldn't need it

[spark river]

Man we really have been giving git gud advice lately

[vestal lotus]

for chimareus im assuming we all run out of mana right

long fight

[spark river]

Not really

Its 6 30

[vestal lotus]

so thats a depends situati... wait waht

6:30?!?!

[pulsar kettle]

yea

[vestal lotus]

my pugs are doing 8+

[pulsar kettle]

my pug chim was around 6:30 ish

[spark river]

Pugs are 7 at most

[vestal lotus]

mythic?

[spark river]

When you sacrifice the tank its a race against time or you wipe

Yeah mythic

[vestal lotus]

i havent gotten past intermission on pugs yet

i cant join CE groups

havent killed yet..

I know all the mechanics tho.. only been playing the game for 20 + years

[spark river]

There arent any difficult mechanics for dreamrift

Its just inrerrupting properly thats the problem

[vestal lotus]

thats where most. groups have been dying

in the interruption aprt

part

[thorn plover]

I honestly thought it enraged shortly after 630

I've never had a kill longer than 640

[spark river]

I think it does tbh

[thorn plover]

But no, no mana issues until 8 mins + @vestal lotus

[urban kestrel]

chim does a 2nd intermission and 2nd p1 with EVEN MORE CASTERS

but its absolutely just not worth doing

like you'd have to have an incredible group at stops

[sudden rover]

no

[vestal lotus]

im surpised regenesis isnt a talent people are all over. - it sounds great on paper

[thorn plover]

Can it track doc?

It's terrible

[sudden rover]

guys pls help me track doc

i dont see debuff

no tengo eyes

[thorn plover]

You don't get max benefit from it til 1hp

[urban kestrel]

regenesis owns in pvp, it's just pretty mid in pve

honestly it probably competes with flourish lol

[spark river]

Its not mid its plain bad

[thorn plover]

Mid is generous I think

[urban kestrel]

ehhh it's like 1-1.5% per point or so a lot of the time, and it's competing with talents a bit above that

[sudden rover]

how about we start the daily vi vs prosp convo

or ND

[urban kestrel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCe72ZC2rhI
can't, watching kino

[marsh prism]

saw second egggg

[thorn plover]

I'm gonna need the math on that

[urban kestrel]

wowA and subtraction

[sudden rover]

what is a subtraction

[thorn plover]

I can't see enough people being low enough, enough of the time, for it to be worth that much

Id guess 1% at best

[urban kestrel]

I wish we had done better on the bird this last week, but holy fuck our officers were like "man, we're missing 2 healers, should we go to the 3 heal boss or the 6 heal boss??" and chose to bash our head into paladins with 80k hps mw alts

[thorn plover]

Lmao

Similar experience here

How grief is it progging paladins with only 1 mw

[urban kestrel]

1 mw is fine, the 2nd one just gets 1 spooky set on the 4ish minute execution sentence that any other healer can cd anyways

[thorn plover]

Sweet ty

[urban kestrel]

just fotm brew alts are for some reason the only alts with a healer spec we have access to rn

[formal fjord]

GL for vault you precious trees!

[kind star]

really hoping for a trinket to replace my world boss one

[marsh prism]

not

[sudden rover]

i got both crown trinket and chimaerus trinket in the vault

how lucky am i

sadly they are both heroic track

[formal fjord]

GLGL thats so brutal lol, do you not delve?

[kind star]

noooo.... should I :/

[formal fjord]

yes.

[kind star]

I mostly just do M+ gonna start raiding this week with heroic.

ight ill do some then! only did the delves from campaign and didnt bother to do more

[formal fjord]

ah righto, recommend the bountiful ones at 11

trinket options should come up for you if vault doesnt work out

[kind star]

I can do even the 11s as resto surely right?

[formal fjord]

yep

[kind star]

sweet

[sudden rover]

why do delves? whats the point

he can only drop good trinkets from the raid part of the vault

[formal fjord]

he wants to replace a world boss trinket

[kind star]

was a good pickup as fresh 90 but now not so much, ugly stat stick trinket.

[sudden rover]

just spam windrunner for heart of wind

and pray u get crown/chimaerus trinket

in vault

[formal fjord]

@kind star = https://questionablyepic.com/live/ - if you put your gear into the upgrades bit and look at the delves you can see what your options are

[kind star]

I could do that too was just farming all of them at 5+ to get 260ilvl and then hit 10s

[sudden rover]

never do +5s

6-10

u get hero gear

[formal fjord]

yeah i mean u get hero gear from delves

[kind star]

ye but I wasnt sure of my skills so I always start low 🙁

farmed all 2s now all 5s.

[formal fjord]

recommend using QE live bud

[kind star]

im 250ilvl atm with 2piece

[sudden rover]

I'm a big delve hater, as much as I hate prosp

[kind star]

will check after work if unlucky with vault didnt know u could upgrade check stuff from delves too, havent played since DF.

[formal fjord]

welcome back

[kind star]

feels good to be back ngl enjoying it so far

[formal fjord]

excellent to see

[thorn whale]

idk we did it without one 3 weeks ago

so it's completely fine

[thorn whale]

they just have to press 1 button? O.O

[whole horizon]

nah SG players are cooked

if they can't play regular MW don't let them near the class

[tulip nexus]

scheduled my move to a new apartment today so my setup can be ready for reset day, gamer move or is my brain just cooked by this game

[dry ice]

So we dont dps in moonkin form? Someone earlier suggested that I shouldnt?

[grizzled seal]

Yeah just stay in caster

[dry ice]

Is there a reason for that? Im just new to the spec

[versed stone]

moonkin switches lycara to mastery which does nothing for dps

[dry ice]

Oh, thats special LOL

[versed stone]

moonkin does give you 10% to spells, but lycara's insp also gives you 4% magic dmg in caster and 3% avoidance in moonkin

so all things added up moonkin form ends up worse