resto

[pulsar kettle]

I thought they fell off

[gentle nova]

New song is bangers

[pulsar kettle]

shit I gotta catch up

[fervent mica]

void cores arrive

[olive terrace]

Is manon coming back

[fierce isle]

hmm I didn't get any

[fervent mica]

other guildies hadn't yet either

but it seems to be trickling in

like they're going server by server

they were auto looted when i swapped character

[vivid owl]

i coined nexus on wednesday, and coined it again today and got the same cloak :))))

[fervent mica]

yeah, thats why they were refunding the ones used before they sent the fix. it wasn't checking off items on the list

[abstract tulip]

my litany trinket isnt procing unless i spam wrath

[vivid owl]

wait i didnt get any extra

[fervent mica]

they just started distributing aparently

sooo

soon™

[thorn plover]

i relogged and got mine

[inner wadi]

any alterations to talents for m+ been discovered?

[vivid owl]

i got a mail from blizzard saying i had things lost in the nether, but there was nothing in it

[thorn plover]

relog

there wont be anything in the mail

they go straight to your currency tab

[vivid owl]

ill log back in and have a looksie

[tough portal]

They shoulda taken back the rolled items fr

[thorn plover]

i vendored mine

they already have it

[fervent mica]

lmao

[vivid owl]

i de'd mine

i mean its the same thing

[fervent mica]

i put one of mine on...

[vivid owl]

eyyyy

back to the nexus i go(tomorrow)

[hallow fractal]

is the nexus ring pair good for us?

[vivid owl]

idk i just want the haste mastery one

[fierce isle]

the crit ring isn't

[abstract tulip]

we killed it.. but i died 🙁

one day

i did lots of regrowths though and i was 137k

the other healer was 138k .. i think they know our secrets

[fervent mica]

push button hard

win game

[soft dagger]

How we did not get nerf with this current hot fix. Prise the Blizzard lord

[abstract tulip]

i know right!

ah its still blue! even though i died https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/f2V74QP6ChnrXRdY?fight=7&type=healing

[thorn plover]

not my night for keys

[abstract tulip]

awe

[fierce isle]

hmmm, I had 2 void cores from bad vaults and two normal weekly ones. this message says it won't bring above the cap... I used 2 of my cores in dungeons and was saving the last two for M Chim..... I wonder if i'll go badck to 4/2

[fervent mica]

if you didn't get any when you got the mail... probably not

[fierce isle]

I haven't gotten any mail yet

maybe I should go spend 2 real quick lol

[idle maple]

Anyone have a good guide on owl weaving? I want to try it out

[fervent mica]

my alts still haven't gotten them either. even though same server... soon™

[fervent mica]

#resto message

[idle maple]

huh, so we still catweave and owlweave? Or am i reading that post wrong

[fervent mica]

options

but you will still use cat hotw with the caster setup

[idle maple]

really, interesting

id think the giant starfall would be the way to go

[fervent mica]

its worse than just pressing starfire

[idle maple]

this game is so weird sometimes

lol

[gentle nova]

For what?

[fierce isle]

Resto druids always want to get nerfed

idk why

[rustic copper]

W gaslight

[gentle nova]

😂

[fierce isle]

if we're even a litle bit strong people seem confused we don't get nuked

[rustic copper]

you better hope we get a nerf

iodeally in like 2 weeks after we kill lura

or we won't be rebuffed in time for next season

[abstract tulip]

i told the other druid the secret and they went from 80k heals to 107k heals!

[rustic copper]

which tech

[fierce isle]

just lifebloom?

[abstract tulip]

the secret of spamming the regrowth while you put lifebloom on yourself, swiftmend yourself on cd and use the swiftmend proc to do the revju

thats the secret

[fervent mica]

push buttons hard after chugging red bull and listening to edm

[abstract tulip]

the swiftmend on cd and regrowth regrowth

[gentle nova]

😹

[abstract tulip]

its like a lightblub moment

im not using my litany trinket though it takes away from my regrowth potential

[gentle nova]

Dont wear that

[abstract tulip]

i dont have many options..

[gentle nova]

Is it hero litany?

[abstract tulip]

yeah

[gentle nova]

Just buy a pvp insignia for 750 conquest

[abstract tulip]

i got volatile void suffuser which will give me more haste.. or i have whisper of duskwraith

i have a feather.. but its only 263

[limpid jacinth]

seat 19 is gonna be the death of me

[gentle nova]

Void suffuser is better than litany

[abstract tulip]

okay im gonna upgrade it and put it on and try

[unique sedge]

At last boss in magisters, is it better to keep lb on a squishy dps or the tank

[limpid jacinth]

Move it as needed.

[strange wren]

This was me ngl, except I figured it out from here 😂

[limpid jacinth]

It’s a pretty long fight so it behooves you to put it on a DPS with dot for effective healing

[unique sedge]

Yeah been doing that, but i still struggled in a 19

[pulsar kettle]

well 19s are supposed to be hard

[abstract tulip]

ahh they called the raid before i could try the other trinket

[thorn plover]

finally timed a key

what a shitty pug night

[abstract tulip]

what level are you doing?

[thorn plover]

17s

[abstract tulip]

i havnt tried anything harder than 13

i wanted to go to that website to see what i can survive, to what level

i could prob heal anything that wont 1 shot me

[thorn plover]

you can survive basically anything without anything til 17 or 18

couple shadow bolt kicks got missed in this 17 spire and it dropped the hunter to like 10%

[olive terrace]

Whats this website

[thorn plover]

https://not-even-close.com/

[abstract tulip]

yes that one!

i prob wont push anything higher than 15 bc you get the mount at 15

[unique sedge]

You can survive anything with bear form and frenzied regen

[abstract tulip]

yeah but how do i know when to go into bear form!

[thorn plover]

you should be practicing that in 13s lol

[unique sedge]

You have to know which mechanics need bear forming or defensives

[vivid elbow]

3400 is 16s isn’t that the mount?

[thorn plover]

right before something bad hits you

[thorn plover]

yes

[abstract tulip]

i think it was 10 years ago i pushed high keys i played with this mage that would basically tell me how to play my character and would tell me when to go into bear and when to interrupt he basically raid lead the m+

it was awesome

[thorn plover]

it was a lot easier when we had trash timers too

[vivid elbow]

You just gotta do each dungeon like 10 times and you should have everything memorized.

[abstract tulip]

he ws like an add on before addons called all that stuff out

[unique sedge]

Thats awesome but you have to learn how do to it yourself, and once you learn every dungeon’s dmg pattern, you’ll find it easier to heal and use defensives. Bear form and frenzied means more globals on other ppl

Sometimes you just need the extra hp

[abstract tulip]

yeah im getting better when learning where the puddles happen

[unique sedge]

Learn the names and icons of trash and boss abillities, so that u can prepare in advance

[true smelt]

Is there something that people use to track lifebloom to ensure the hot doesn't drop off/ lose stacks?

[thorn plover]

LifebloomAlert

[true smelt]

Ty

[thorn plover]

did this and timed my first key of the night

[unique sedge]

Try to use bearform for big dmg stuff even if you’d survive without it, to get the hang of it. Throw a trash as well 😄

Some pad dmg

[abstract tulip]

haha you think im pro look at u!

im like good enough to do mythic bosses but not good enough to get in a good guild

and i learn a little slower, takes me more attempts to understand. but once i understand im good

[fervent mica]

i came back to the game at the start of dragonflight... mythic didn't exist when i had raided before that. joined a guild that was planning to start mythic raiding that tier.
Was very bad. played a lot, got better. still mostly bad.

knowing you need to work is the best thing to get better

now ce is an expectation instead of a goal

[thorn plover]

^ same pretty much

never played between cata and tww lol

[gentle nova]

Join heroic pugs to practice raid healing

[unique sedge]

I’ve been playing since cata but only started mythic raiding in dragonflight. Until then it was mounts, reputations, flowers and finding wc3 characters

[gentle nova]

Nexus kings and chimaerus and just focus on your healing not so much on mechanics

Youll learn a lot

I think i have like 50 hero kills on both bosses this season

[abstract tulip]

the gear from beloren isnt very good..

is it good for boomkin spec?

[true jungle]

hello friends

[urban kestrel]

Beloren is for radiant plume and then most his loot as after that is bad.

And plume is kind of sim bait for some specs anyways if they have to hold a CD for adds or something, but I think most bosses still line up well.

The ring might be a good boomy flex piece since you probably have no crit on resto set and boomy still wants some.

[abstract tulip]

ah my pally got a plume out of a box!

[limpid jacinth]

Meowdy

[fervent mica]

saame

[abstract tulip]

we are the lucky ones!

[plain rampart]

guys, is there a nice addon to customize sound effects whenever your CDs are up? for instance, a waterdrop sound when swiftmend is up, things like that

[stray cipher]

There's a few sfx in the base game but I think PulseCD can do that?

[plain rampart]

I'll check that out thx

[abstract tulip]

if you go to advanced cooldown manager you can add new ones for your abilities

its in the blizard ui

[obsidian cloak]

if I have gaze and locus already (hc) where should i roll my bonus?

[idle maple]

huh so you never actually go into moonkin form for owl weaving m+

[fervent mica]

depends on the rest of your gear... but a lot of people have chosen nexus point

[obsidian cloak]

why nexus ?

[fervent mica]

weapon/chest/ring + gloves you could cata

highest concentration of "bis" items

[lament river]

And Nexus have boots to

[obsidian cloak]

a friend is mentioned trying to save bonus rolls for myth gaze is it worth the 2 roll ?

[fervent mica]

it also has boots/cloak

[lament river]

Yes

[fervent mica]

you can only roll once per kill, so saving multiple sets doesn't do much

[lament river]

You Can always sim in upgrade finder to

[obsidian cloak]

what was the sim website again please?

[fervent mica]

questionablyepic

[olive terrace]

yeah moonkin form v minor dmg increase. 4% haste is v strong

[obsidian cloak]

cheers thanks

[jovial sand]

For the Lithany trinket, does ticks of moonfire/sunfire count? And do the cast have to be to the same target?

[fervent mica]

no dot ticks

and no aoe triggers /-:

[jovial sand]

Okay, but for instance can I apply moonfire to different targets? Does that count?

[tough portal]

No

[jovial sand]

So only to the same target?

[lament river]

Is people still catweaving in m+ ? Can see alot of talents where rip and rake is still active

[thorn plover]

what mount am i buying

kinda like the purple shreddertank idk

they all suck

[fervent mica]

is druid asks about mounts

[thorn plover]

that too

[tough portal]

Where bro

[thorn plover]

give me a cool flight form for achievments

[lament river]

I tjecked murlock Io

[thorn plover]

thats old shit

[lament river]

Hmm im tjecking raider io on top 100 druid slot still spec into Rip and rake

[pulsar kettle]

[thorn plover]

that doesnt mean theyre keys done since 12.0.5

raider.io also just shows last talents they logged out with

[lament river]

Good point

[thorn plover]

useless data

[lament river]

Is there a better site to track?

[sinful musk]

Cat weaving is still better right? Don’t you lose a fair bit of healing as well with moonkin spec?

[thorn plover]

logs

[fervent mica]

aggregate sites are notoriously bad

[thorn plover]

no

[tough portal]

No
Catweaving vs boomboxing is different than Wildstalker vs KOTG

[fervent mica]

wildstalker isn't a cat spec

[tough portal]

You can sacrifice healing to buff your damage more but that's not unique to either damage build

[ivory tusk]

Is shoulder or chest our off piece for set? I assume chest, right?

[tough portal]

Chest

[ivory tusk]

ty

[thorn plover]

chest and gloves 😏

[sinful musk]

What’s the new rotation with moonkin build? Damage felt lower when I tried moonkin vs cat weaving

[thorn plover]

starfire

then starfire some more

then after that

starfire

[sinful musk]

So don’t even bother with the dots?

[thorn plover]

only if you need to move

[fervent mica]

#resto message

[sinful musk]

Thx friend ❤️

[thorn plover]

timed 2 keys in a row since taking mattiu advice

what a goat

[fervent mica]

woo drugs?

[sinful musk]

What advice was that?

[tough portal]

"Healers heal"

I believe

[sinful musk]

Does seem like good advice haha

[thorn plover]

redbull and edm\

[tough portal]

LMAO

Cursed

[spare sand]

https://tenor.com/view/shreek-smile-shrek-meme-smiling-nice-gif-2254951627329396250

[rigid mirage]

Bruh it didnt even give me anythign back

[fierce isle]

How many did you use?

[rigid mirage]

2

[tough portal]

Currencies are just auto added, they dont show up on mail as an item mate

[fierce isle]

yeah check your currency tab

[tough portal]

Tough

[fierce isle]

rip

[tough portal]

Relog maybe

[fervent mica]

when did you use them?

[rigid mirage]

relog worked ty boys

we up

[fervent mica]

ez

[fierce isle]

Nice

Gratz Man

[rigid mirage]

[drowsy solar]

doing +11 delves at 156 ilvl is a choice I'm doing but its working I guess

[thorn plover]

lmao

[fierce isle]

Did anyone have 3 or more Voidcores and get them refunded?

[thorn plover]

yeah my alt did

[fierce isle]

ok so you'll get refunded over the 2/2 max

[thorn plover]

seems so

[fierce isle]

Thanks Purr

i was stressed about haveing to run two dungeons real quick to use two more cores

[drowsy solar]

I got 1 refunded that I spent before the bug fix

[fervent mica]

your alt got them already? both of mine that used still waiting. lol

[thorn plover]

all 3 of my toons got refunded

just had 1 toon that had spent 3

[lament river]

So if we spendt 1 before bug fix We Got refound ?

[thorn plover]

youll get 1 back

[lament river]

Also if you Only spended 1 bonus Roll ?

[crude basin]

Is NB really better that HB? just did an 11 seat and NB was 1.6% of my healing no idea if thats good or bad

[thorn plover]

i dont take either

[fervent mica]

hb is really bad... nb is really bad when you don't have to heal much

[crude basin]

this is for m+ btw

[thorn plover]

yes

[crude basin]

i find HB to be cluth when i need to swap LB

[thorn plover]

i havent been swapping it at all since the patch

not nearly as much value in swapping it now

[south pebble]

Is there a written guide to this new KoTG boomkin resto build?

[hard loom]

Yeah i just spam regrowth instead of swapping now lol. Better to just keep it rolling at 3 stacks instead of swapping and force bloom with SM

Easier to just regrowth em up when they're blanketed with a WG and rejuv from sotf anyway

[thorn plover]

the kotg build is less healing, more damage

play is the same

[crude basin]

i tried the kotg build was not a fan

[stable verge]

twin sprouts vs implant? for M+

[fervent mica]

implant 4lif

[marble brook]

hello guys, can anyone explain why the best build changed to wild stalker in raids?

i cant find any info about it

[hardy canopy]

simply because it synergizes with the new apex better

[marble brook]

yes sir, im going to try my first heroic with the wow head build - thank you so much for the reply!

[thorn plover]

keep lifebloom up on yourself, 2 rejuvs, swiftmend yourself = profit

• your normal stuff

[marble brook]

gotcha

[idle maple]

whats the wild growth swiftmend combo again

[marble brook]

swiftmend + rejuv + wildgrowth?

[drowsy solar]

I think it's funny watching a bunch of treants spawn during convoke

[thorn plover]

theres no combo anymore

[idle maple]

ive been living a lie

[thorn plover]

swiftmend doesnt do anything for wildgrowth

only rejuv and regrowth

[idle maple]

so just wg on cd as much as possible

[thorn plover]

more or less

you can cut back from "on cd"

to save mana

[idle maple]

but wont swiftmend extend the wg hot on everyone a bit?

[fervent mica]

only the target you swiftmend

[idle maple]

ahhh

kk

[fervent mica]

and only if you're spec'd into verdent infusion

[idle maple]

and the huge lifebloom double rejuv stack on yourself

do you do that in m+ too or just raid

[fervent mica]

not usually on yourself

[thorn plover]

in m+ it can either be tank or yourself, ive been starting to lean a lot more to myself

apex just does so much work

i was watching jb do 20s/21s earlier and he had it on himself most of the run too, but hes playing a completely different game than i am lol

[formal path]

How many targets do we Starfire on? 2+?

[frozen prairie]

if i am playing with brew i have it on myself

[paper scaffold]

anyone have a talent export for the new boomkinweave build? I've seen some people using each hero talent, which is better?

[hardy canopy]

on self is the play yeah

forestwalk, bond with nature, verdant heart

[patent lintel]

Can someone give me a TLDR for high keys? Keep one rejuv on everyone, use Swiftmend on regrowth if everyone just took a ton of dmg, otherwise rejuv? pop wild growth on cd or AOE dmg?

[frozen prairie]

bond with nature better then Harnonious constitution?

[grand herald]

keeping rejuvs on people isnt really a goal

its really just, know incoming damage, hot up as much as you need pre damage event, use spot healing during damage event

the only maintainence you really have is LB and you can SM RJ when no dmg is incoming

[patent lintel]

tyty

[elder zephyr]

harmonius

[frozen prairie]

yeh i think its better even if you LB yourself

[abstract tulip]

i like to swiftmend rejuv for big hits (if i have time ill regrowth) and then spam heal the other person ignoring the person wtih lifebloom bc the blooms should proc and heal them

yeah for keys lb on whoever is squishy

[tiny dome]

does anyone have a way to track the cooldown for call of the elderdruid, not the buff

[abstract tulip]

it sucks when your tank is squishy bc i like it when i can put lb on the range dps bc they NEVER stand in my circle

and you also said "high keys" so honestly i dont do anything higher than a 13 right now so take what i say with some ignorance

[azure turret]

hello, i am lazy, where am i bonusrolling? spire? 🙂

[proven phoenix]

chimaerus

mythic chimaerus ideally

its puggable content

your trinkets are not good

[crisp schooner]

aint u missing a craft? or am i blind

[proven phoenix]

yes I think so

[crisp schooner]

craft boots and roll chim

[proven phoenix]

I dont think boots, ring craft is better

boots/wrist/cloak craft is stinky

jewellery is good

[crisp schooner]

listen to this man im not a gpood source of hints!

xD

[frozen prairie]

why

[tough portal]

DM me for rotation secrets is crazy lmao

Bro just allergic to people questioning what he says

[limpid jacinth]

“Rotation secrets”

[urban bone]

Maybe he meant “rotisserie secrets”

[limpid jacinth]

mmmmmmm

I need rotation secrets to time this SotT, tbh

[urban bone]

Dm him then post the response

[limpid jacinth]

he’s gonna block me, im already on thin ice

[urban bone]

Oh..

[hard bear]

Anyone else notice that even if you click off lifebloom or let it expire, you can still continue to proc everbloom with sotf

[tough portal]

Yeah

[limpid jacinth]

odd. Not sure if there’s any real way to take advantage of that since you also really want photo blooms but maybe someone smarter than I

[sacred wasp]

I noticed this and subconsciously gaslit myself into thinking it made it

[vocal elbow]

Hello good people who's running a build like this one after 12.0.5? I'm watching the last Dorki vid, seems interesting

[frozen prairie]

got duplicate nice. This is why i got 2 extra rolls

[grand herald]

its kinda troll

[upbeat swift]

are we sending LB on ourselves in raid now? perma?

[agile wasp]

Hey guys, is there any healing in going boomkin and using heart of the wild in any way or is it just for damage?

[grand herald]

pretty much

[grand herald]

the DoC build is kinda troll

[agile wasp]

DoC?

[grand herald]

dream of cenarius

[agile wasp]

Ah I see. I saw like high rank m+ players playing with boomkin but no DoC. Is that just for damage then on big packs?

[grand herald]

yes

[agile wasp]

Cool, makes sense. Do you risk pulling nearby packs or will it starfire only on aggroed packs?

[grand herald]

if they are close enough to get hit, then they are gonna be aggrod by distance anyways

[agile wasp]

aight, thanks

[upbeat swift]

is there anything to speciallyto do or is it just have it urself so it proccs in raid rather on tanks?

[grand herald]

you have increased self healing

[agile wasp]

50% of the damage done by starfire into healing seems kinda big tho ngl

but yeah i dont really see which two points to take away to spec into that

[shy wraith]

so rdruid does insane damage now? i though these buffs were to make them a bit better bc they were doing zdps (even for healer numbers)

[grand herald]

i mean you are doing shit dps to prio/st

[shy wraith]

so kinda like mw with the noaoex build

apex*

[thorn whale]

Yes

[tardy cedar]

finally blizzard realized it's really off putting to play melee feral as a healer

no clue how this ever became the standard

[grand herald]

because its fun and interesting?

[tardy cedar]

I mean at least make the other option more viable (which they did now). I always played restokin ofc and not furry. did not matter for keys on +10 anyway

[loud mango]

Wildstalker is the only druid fully using fluid form and it's great

Rake, thrash, heal

Just swapping forms non stop

[bright swift]

I'm playing wildstalker with casting talents

[naive chasm]

Its taking me a while to get used to new keybinds with caster dps instead of cat ngl

[hardy canopy]

same

[spare delta]

are we keeper of grove now for m+ with new caster talents?

[naive chasm]

The consensus seems to be, wildstalker does more healing and thats more important so stick with that. But if you feel you are doing enough healing to keep groups alive then you can go kotg for more dps (its just healer dps tends not to be that important)

[spare delta]

even with dorkis new build?

[naive chasm]

https://questionablyepic.com/resto-druid/12.0.5

[spare delta]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTiQy4yTWgE

[naive chasm]

Dunno aboit that

Does it exploit the starfire cleave bug?

If so I imagine that will get fixed at some point but could be worth for a bit

[spark river]

Dorki baiting everyone into depletes

What a legend

[thorn whale]

New build

[bright swift]

Actually so funny

[marsh prism]

FYI I will be taking annual leave from this channel in response to this video's release

[limpid jacinth]

He literally says not to run it in pugs

[fleet jewel]

[spare delta]

its not pug friendly?

[dim vortex]

[limpid jacinth]

Watch the video instead of asking us.

[spare delta]

but you guys are the experts

[primal jungle]

sry ppl are mean its usually nice ppl here

[gilded oxide]

It doesn’t respond well to unexpected damage which you tend to have more of in pugs where kicks are missed / people stand in shit / doesn’t hit their defensives / etc

[naive chasm]

Seems like you need to play it perfectly as well, just seems too much stress to do some more damage

[bright swift]

It'll also just suck on actually hard bosses

This build does not deal with non trash healing checks well

[spare delta]

is there a build then that's does caster dps but keeps our healing and is it alot less than cat - as being feral really puts me off

[naive chasm]

Caster dps is best atm, no need to cat weave

https://questionablyepic.com/resto-druid/12.0.5

Except for using hotw cat form on priority targets

[spare delta]

i did look there but couldnt see any talents builds though i could be blind

[naive chasm]

Wowhead m+ build is up to date and written by the same author

[spare delta]

ahh thank you

sorry i'm new

and im trying to learn and did try it before found it hard to focus on cat and healing

so gave up for a bit

[bright swift]

i've been playing this

which I think is basically wowhead build?

[urban bone]

Just the range talent in the Druid tree diff but I think otherwise yes

(I think)

[bright swift]

Eh sure but what else

second point of matted fur

[urban bone]

Yes I think so

[spark river]

I play rake and rip instead of starsurge and range

I just cant go full caster

[bright swift]

starsurge is pretty decent damage

[limpid jacinth]

I dropped boomie and sun fire for rake and rip

So I can rip after hotw

[tough portal]

Not a terrible shout

And with WS you randomly come up on 5 combo points sometimes too from dispeling

[naive chasm]

Its definitely hard for me to transition to caster after so long doing catweaving

But I guess will feel natural in a few days

[lament river]

Did we get new coins? blizzard refounded all my coins

[tough portal]

Yes

[fiery zinc]

If you use your coins before they fixed them, you get the refund. At least as far as I understood it.

[lament river]

i used 1 in dungeon and 2 in raid

its safe to use them right? i get 2 new next week to?

[naive chasm]

This last point from the QE guide on 12.0.5:

"Are there any major playstyle changes? Lifebloom uptime becomes extremely crucial. Make sure your Lifebloom target also has two Rejuvenation buffs and a Regrowth and Swiftmend them off cooldown. Check your Lifebloom uptime with WowAnalyzer after every pull until you are sitting at 95%+ uptime."

Is it better to spend GCDs keeping these things up in periods of lower damage than spending GCDs on starfire etc?

https://questionablyepic.com/resto-druid/12.0.5

[spark river]

You should get 2 new ones next week

[bright swift]

yeah maybe actually

but then I need to play fluid form instead

drop lycara 2nd node I guess?

[gaunt willow]

I like this build

[tough portal]

Drop lycaras 4% magic

Yeah

[gaunt willow]

I have 2/2 TV instead of NB but will swap later and have a play

[bright swift]

NB is better imo

[tough portal]

I'm just fully catweaving tbh fuck this shit

[spark river]

The vickman way

He also said fuck this shit im going c at

[gaunt willow]

It’s the cleave healing range in pugs that bothers me

[tough portal]

Cba starfiring full time, I'm taking the talent just in case there's some meme pull but

[limpid marsh]

Tried JDs build with Dream of Cenarius and its insane fun on 18s pulling 200k+ dps in AOE pulls

[spare delta]

does this look?

[bright swift]

Is ST still better for cat

cuz then I think i'll just go back cat

[naive chasm]

I believe I read on QE or wowhead guide that they are about equal, cat maybe slightly behind

Its only really on aoe where cat falls behind

[sonic drift]

hey ppl! looking at the changes, in raid is it still the same build or is there any other popular build to go?

[bright swift]

no for raid you really wanna go apex now

wowhead build for WS is really good

[limpid marsh]

apex with wildstalker

[sonic drift]

aighty thank you im going to check that out!

hate changes xD i have to get used to

[storm kettle]

The gameplay remained the same

[sonic drift]

so this is the new raid build to go for?

[bleak sandal]

I heard there are some changes to keeper and m+ content. Does anyone have experiences with that in keys + 10-15?

[bright swift]

yes

[naive chasm]

So you don't go caster in raid only M+?

[bright swift]

you don't dps in raid

[naive chasm]

Ah

I dont raid :p

[sonic drift]

ty for the help!!:)

[tough portal]

With high damage uptime no, but realistically on bosses with stuff to heal, yeah it should be a bit better

[bright swift]

gotcha

[tough portal]

I'm untalenting starfire too tbh fuck this padding

[limpid jacinth]

How the mighty have fallen

[tough portal]

I'll pad with thrash idk

[bright swift]

nah it's a good button

idk if I even switch my 25% node

[tough portal]

It's really crazy how much stronger Call is for caster damage

Than for catweaving

Ig lining up with HOTW gives it a good boost on the cat side

But otherwise the combo points are really piss

[bright fossil]

i am new to m+.. should i always lifebloom on myself?

[plucky peak]

you lifebloom the person about to take heavy damage or tanks

[vapid lance]

if you recall it was stronger for cat a few patches ago iirc

[tough portal]

No I dont think so

[bright fossil]

how do i know which target is about to take heavy damage

[tough portal]

I mean it's always been the same situation it's just that now with Starfire being gigantic it's more in your face

[bright swift]

that's just dungeon knowledge and seeing what mob casts its heavy dot on who

[tough portal]

But old HOTW / Call effect is a ~72% DPS gain for Starfire spam
It's like 30% DPS gain catweaving before factoring in Feral Frenzy

[tough portal]

Speaking of this

[naive chasm]

On lower keys you can probbaly just keep lifebloom on tank most of the time but yea as you get more knowledge try swapping it at sensible times

[tough portal]

Needing to read target names on spell cast bars

To figure out who to prehot on a cast

Is the worst thing I've ever done in this game

[naive chasm]

Yea its annoying

[bright swift]

do you not have this addon

[tough portal]

I have an addon it just puts the bars in a more convenient spot

Instead of nameplates

It's still shit

[bright swift]

yeah

it's weird that they went this direction for sure

[bright fossil]

whats that addons name

[inland zephyr]

First time healer who usually does DPS trying to figure out where I should spend my voidcores

[vapid lance]

what addon is this vrocas?

[tough portal]

Maybe they're workign on the same feature for base UI

[inland zephyr]

Usually I'd just sim but now I have no idea. Any pointers?

[tough portal]

Danders has it, TargetedSpells is the addon I have

[mystic crater]

Targeted spells is one addon. That does it yeah

[weary void]

Is there a way to track when Call of the elder druid is ready to be used (1 min cd)?

[bright swift]

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/dungeoncasts

[rich compass]

Hey this might be a stupid question but does our Mastery work based on unique IDs or do multiple stacks of a HoT contribute?

Like I'm assuming:
Rejuvenation + Germination = 2 stacks
Lifebloom with Everbloom (stacked to 3) = 1 stack (without Harmonious Blooming)

Or does the triple stacked Lifebloom count towards our Mastery threefold? Even before Harmonious Blooming?

[tough portal]

You're right

Everbloom stacks arent more mastery stacks

Same with symbiotic bloom multiple stacks

[rich compass]

Okay thanks, yeah I figured that'd make more sense but wasn't sure

[tough portal]

It puts a debuff on you that acts as the cooldown, not much of a convenient way to track it unless you use ArcUI, could make a custom bar for it

[tough portal]

Mythic Chimaerus, Nexus Point Xenas, Skyreach are good shouts, it just depends on the gear you already have too

[whole horizon]

you can sim still too. qe live upgrade finder is droptimizer for healers.

[naive chasm]

Is there anything bis in skyreach?

[fervent mica]

staff/chest

the chest is basically the same as the one from npx

slightly less haste

[tough portal]

Shoulder for catalyst fodder

There isnt any haste mastery boots right? So boots also for catalyst fodder

[fervent mica]

only the boe boots

[dense moss]

Any way to track call of elder druid cooldown?

[spark river]

Do i send a ws to gamble this coin away

shoulder and how chances

2/9

[versed stone]

1st question to ask is: do you have crests to upgrade

[spark river]

yeah

i got 150 myth

[versed stone]

then ye roll anywhere you get most upgrades

[plain steeple]

Just craft ingi boots with 120 haste.

[spark river]

I have 3 items from nexus point which are trash and i know im getting duplicates therer

so i have to dodge that

[spark narwhal]

Is it worth switching champion Vibrant Winderloop for Heroic Occlusion of Void (loosing 167 mastery for 75 haste 98 CS 28 stamina) with those stats ?

[white sentinel]

can we DE our bonus rolls

btw I bonus rolled NPX four times

[plain steeple]

You can also GB or FR them.

[white sentinel]

crazy shit

[white sentinel]

yeah idk what gb or fr means

[mortal fjord]

how do u rolled 4 times ? I has jkust 2 rolls

[plain steeple]

Great Britain and France.

[white sentinel]

if ur rerolled before the fix they refund back ur 2 rolls

[tough portal]

#resto message

[small wolf]

Hey guys! Is vaelgors final stare really so far down the trinket BIS list? I feel like it's so impactful

[tough portal]

Yeah I think I will eventually, not a bad idea

[small wolf]

It feels like a CD in itself haha

[marsh prism]

dont use this

refer to qelive top gear or at minimum the qelive trinket list

[small wolf]

Ahhhh ok!

[crimson stirrup]

does anyone know if I can kill a boss I'm saved on, again, just to bonus roll

[tough portal]

Not on mythic, no

[plain steeple]

This is not a BiS list. It’s a list of what people are using. Basically a list of items that people have gotten already.
This does not show whether these players would like to play those trinkets or if this is the only (or highest ilvl) trinket they got.

Avoid that website if you want to optimise.

[fervent mica]

yay

[plain steeple]

Grats

[white sentinel]

is it safe to disnechant the bonus rolls

[fervent mica]

did you get 2 of those before they fixed it?

[tired gale]

Is catweaving still viable only for 10 weekly keys

I don't like new owl gameplay

[brittle yacht]

You can literally do anything for a 10

[bright swift]

you can turn your monitor off for a weekly 10

and still time it

[silver anvil]

can you track the cooldown of Call of ELder Druid somehow?

[primal jungle]

turning off your monitor won't help you track it trust me

[silver anvil]

what did i miss xD

[spare delta]

in m+ using caster talents do we use heart of wild on the boomy starfall or on the cat dot thing?

[loud mango]

It's a debuff so I see it on my dander's frame

[limpid jacinth]

Kitty

[spare delta]

even on trash

[silver anvil]

oh i prob. shouldve noted that i wanted it to have in cooldown manager

[loud mango]

Can maybe make a weakaura and put it next to your cdm

I saw dorki had a giant icon next to his bars

[silver anvil]

wait im so out of loop theres weakauras again?

[loud mango]

But I saw that it shows in dander's which was fine for me

There are a few clones you can download

I don't personally use them

i think it's m33kauras or something

[spark river]

i am getting bis balance gear

the game wants to tell me something

[static shuttle]

Ngl dorkis build looks pretty op...

[spark river]

so play it kekw

tell us how it goes

[loud mango]

It's pretty fun

[static shuttle]

Im about to try it. Sick of mana issues in WS

[loud mango]

I've only done 3 m+ so far though

[spark river]

this does not fix

any issues

you were previously having

[whole horizon]

mana issues

[static shuttle]

Pugging is rough on mana lol

[whole horizon]

its not

making mistakes is tho

[static shuttle]

Then you get some great pugs.

[whole horizon]

you can heal for like 8 straight minutes without mana issues

[desert kayak]

i don't think there is a ceiling of hps where you could oom on this spec

not possible

[whole horizon]

and i guarantee your pugs arent pulling at a pace that requires you to do that and simultaneously failing all mechanics

[desert kayak]

other than by playing bad

[static shuttle]

When you need to pump 100k for 15 mins straight due to tank chain pulling? Yeah theres mana issues

[desert kayak]

this spec can do 100k while semi afk

[candid parcel]

Tried the dorku build, did 150k dps on first pull on seat on a 17. But healing bleeds etc was ass with the build so... think im staying wildstalker.

[spark river]

No one is pumping 100k for 15 mins straight

[desert kayak]

but also yeah that is just not real

[spark river]

Thats just coming up with excuses for poor gameplay

[static shuttle]

Yeah this is what im worried about

[fallow swallow]

QUESTION: How to get the most healing from everbloom in raid? I have full uptime on my lifebloom, consume soul of the forest on every proc (usually with rejuv), and end up having 1/3 of other dudus healing from everbloom??

[spark river]

You re not pressing swiftmend enough then

Send a log

[fallow swallow]

Im literally pressing it on cd

constantly

xD

[candid parcel]

Think i will only play it if im doings 10-15s for the vault. Small pulls with dots or bleeds it felt ass.

[whole horizon]

timing matters, and is this heroic?

[fallow swallow]

mythic

[fervent mica]

is your lb target stacked with hots?

[whole horizon]

share logs

[fallow swallow]

Dont have logs i think, but will check - 2 sec

[lethal lichen]

Stack ur lb target with all hots possible

[fallow swallow]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/eu/stormscale/fibonaccio?boss=3176

[static shuttle]

Yeah I was exaggerating a bit, but it is hard when people stand in bad when theres no other damage and you dont have much for hots up besides on lb target

[novel garnet]

Whats the dps rotation in m+? The caster one, should I go into monkin form? Is it good to use starsurge on cd?

[spark river]

Dorkis build is going to make that 10x worse

[fervent mica]

self lifebloom with vi, but using swiftmend on everyone else?

[static shuttle]

Yeah, thats why im coming in here for opinions on it lol

[fallow swallow]

What u mean?

[spark river]

I mean even jb and him both tell you to not use it unless in a coordinated group or a weekly key

[static shuttle]

In top keys does healer damage even matter?

[spark river]

Not really

Its a nice thing to have but it wont be a dealbreaker

[static shuttle]

Thats my thinking on jt lol. Like yeah with a coordinated group, pumping 40k would be nice. But everyone needs to be on their shit

[fervent mica]

you have lifebloom on yourself, spec'd into verdant infusion... but are using sm on anyone but yourself. you aren't extending your hots on the target that matters

[static shuttle]

And one wrong move without the right hots out is game over

[loud mango]

Yeah he does mention how punishing it is

Every global counts

[static shuttle]

Yeah ws seems more forgiving.

[fervent mica]

the other druid is the proper spec, and is swiftmending their lb target

if they were doing the rest of it right... they'd have other healing to go with the everbloom

[loud mango]

I think the fun will wear off

[tawdry isle]

The dorku build?

[loud mango]

It's a fun change of pace for vault keys

[static shuttle]

It looks fun for weeky vault keys ngl

[candid parcel]

dreamgroove shenanigans, fun but felt shit in high key pugs.

[fallow swallow]

Thanks! Will look into it

[static shuttle]

Lol indeed

Im just having trouble accepting the fact I cant do shit for damage anymore since tww 😭

[grave notch]

You contribute 5-6% on bosses, thats around ~10 seconds on some bossfights

[static shuttle]

Id say I average about 5-15k. Healing 14s. Idk how that compares lol.

Awesome. Thanks

[sharp sedge]

im jus happy to see the dotc gaslighters finally loose control over the narrative

kotg has been better for "low" keys the entire expansion

so tired of seeing every single rdruid pugger doing 1100 dps and running oom 24/7

[loud mango]

I've literally never gone oom

I don't understand what people are saying, haha

Are they never using their cooldowns or something?

[fervent mica]

ran into a couple of people that refused to spec into apex for m+... they drank a lot

but it has nothing to do with how terrible doc is or isn't

[static shuttle]

No. I get into groups where multiple people are taking 1m+ avoidable damage..

[spark river]

Not sure if this works on mythic but i could bonus loot a heroic boss i already killed before

[fervent mica]

you can't get into an instance where a mythic boss you killed is alive

[spark river]

nvm

im stupid

i figured

one brain cell working overtiime

[fervent mica]

both of my sets of bonus rolls have given me one upgrade and one item i already had on myth. lol

[spark river]

i got bis ring and chest for balance druid

from my rolls lol

[glossy copper]

Do you always use NS with Convoke ? Or better to have 2 separate heal CD ? Is the answer the same in M+ and Raid ?

[spark river]

Doesnt work a nymore

[limpid jacinth]

NS no longer buffs during Convoke

[plain steeple]

No that’s not true.
On 14-15 keys I already get 100k hps overall. Some pulls with >200k hps.
I never drop below 80% mana.

And I never drink.

[glossy copper]

Oh wow thx guys !

[static shuttle]

In ws? I might be stacking too much haste ngl then

[plain steeple]

This has nothing to do with haste. In keys like academy I have 45%.

Otherwise ~40 with flask.

Also Wildstalker has nothing to do with it either.

There is no mana difference between Wildstalker and kotg.

[loud mango]

I mean there is a difference

But you shouldn't go oom playing either

[static shuttle]

Interesting. Imma have to upload a log on here to see wassup ngl.

Ive been using wow analyzer and hitting around 90÷ efficiency

[plain steeple]

What do you mean?

[loud mango]

kotg you're at like 95%

ws you'll maybe hit 70%

[static shuttle]

When i play kotg I never go oom. Lol

[plain steeple]

I have no idea what these percentages should tell me.

[loud mango]

how much mana you end a pack with

[plain steeple]

Those hero talents do the exact same thing for your mana - nothing.
You have the same playstyle, unless you change some other talents.

[harsh quail]

hey you have +5% more maxmana in kotg lmao

[plain steeple]

And that one second on swiftmend CD is not having a big enough impact on your abundance stack to actually make a difference for your mana.

[plain steeple]

That is completely irrelevant.

[loud mango]

you play shapeshifter in this kotg build and liveliness in ws

[spark river]

It doesnt matter

[plain steeple]

There is no reason to play liveliness right now. Don’t do that.

[silver zenith]

what is the best for a beginner? "keeper of the grove" or "wildstalker" ?

[spark river]

you re not playing embrace to get to photo

and you re definitely taking photo

[plain steeple]

Also then that’s a diff between MS vs liveliness, not of ws vs kotg

[plain steeple]

Same playstyle basically.

[static shuttle]

Then thats my problem with mana. Ive been playing liveliness

[spark river]

No

Thats not your problem

jesus

[loud mango]

I play liveliness

I don't run out of mana

[plain steeple]

You should not have issues with liveliness though.

But as I said, there is no reason to play liveliness currently.

[spark river]

Thats just wrong

[static shuttle]

Then whats my problem?

[spark river]

You re not playing ms with wildstalker

Zero reason to do that

Poor gameplay

[plain steeple]

More damage. 🤷‍♂️

[spark river]

You re oom because you re not playing properly

[plain steeple]

As long as our starfire bugs persist, MS is providing more damage than liveliness, even on Wildstalker.

[boreal karma]

You play ms for sure

[tight wind]

Ms ?

[static shuttle]

Master shapeshifter

[tight wind]

Can someone send me talents for m+ ? 15+ keys

Ah

[rapid temple]

Is liveliness a net heal increase at all or do I not understand what "hots tick faster" means? I think I had that issue with feral. I switched last night to liveliness and kept going oom lol so I appreciate this discussion, I'ma switch back

[spark river]

Again

People going oom has nothing to do with ms

or Liveliness

[plain steeple]

That’s right.

[rapid temple]

nahhhh i was wrathing my lil heart out for that mana :<

[lost ocean]

what does people going oom have to do with

[plain steeple]

It’s a heal increase of around 2%. In raid if you pick embrace that would be double the value though.

Any MS provides mana and dmg.

[plain steeple]

Faulty gameplay.

Usually pressing way too many rejuvs.

[rapid temple]

Yeah it's true I was rejuv too much lol

[rancid portal]

How do you guys play longer bosses in mythic without the regen from MS? or is the mana management fine?

[sick tree]

Some wraths and you Are good to go!😉

[plain steeple]

If you mean mythic raids: MS provides you round about 10% extra mana. So if you fight 5min (300s) you gain an extra 30s until you oom.
Round about that.

Unless you have 10min fights mana shouldnt be a concern.

[plain steeple]

Don’t do that in raid.

This costs an extreme amount of hps and gives barely no mana.

MS gives most of its mana through convokes and otherwise by pressing hotw (feral frenzy) and a cat finisher

[lyric otter]

why is winkstalker now the main pick ?

i see it on logs and other rdruids using it. is it new for this week?

[sick tree]

I think the biggest Problem is when ppl miss the 8-12 stacks abundance Thats a huge manasaver when you cast your regrowth

[lyric otter]

do i change my rotation at all for windstalker

[sick tree]

@lyric otter yes they buffed the owl casts (all of them) go visit wowhead its Fine for anythjng around +1 - +15‘s

[lyric otter]

what about raid? i mostly do raid, always did windstalker for m+

but i noticed in raid windstalker is now the pick

[sick tree]

They changed the apex talent so for now looks Like wildstalker ist better for raids

[lyric otter]

i should learn the talents more tbh, i hate to be a bother but can you tell me why? i thought windstalker was for m+ cuz we got time to go cat

how is it better for raid if we cant go cat

[sick tree]

You dont have to be in catform if you play wildstalker

For raid it is better cause they changed the apex talent

[solid hemlock]

is keeping abundance up on everyone still good for m+? or no need?

[lyric otter]

whats the apex change

[sick tree]

Everbloom heals 40y for 50% of the Last Bloom…THIS IS HUGE

[toxic burrow]

Would someone have a link to a good Call of The Elder druid M+ build?

[spark river]

No

Thats how you end up oom

You ll have enough abudance just by spreading rejuvs through sotf

[sick tree]

Yes

[spark river]

Its not something you hard track in keys

[solid hemlock]

Thanks - just been looking through things since I normally do pres evoker and my alt is druid and want to start doing keys on her

[lyric otter]

whats the rotation change for windstalker for raid?

i copied top builds but idk what the change is lol

[glossy copper]

Everbloom : what is this "last bloom" ? When you override LB in pandemic window ?

[spark river]

There is no change

The gameplay is exactly the same

[sick tree]

No change right

[lyric otter]

so i can do more hps as windstalker without ever going catform?

[spark river]

Yes

[lone basalt]

yes

[spark river]

You play wildstalker because it does the most healing

[sick tree]

Swiftmend has to be!!!!!!! casted dont miss it

[plain steeple]

If you actively go for 12 stacks, you will lose mana. The rejuvs you have to spend for it will be more expensive than the regrowth you could have casted instead.

[sick tree]

Idk

[lyric otter]

i see. hmm

[loud mango]

Yeah you're too stuck on the cat part and forgetting the bloom part

Haha

[sick tree]

Hahahaha

Right

[lyric otter]

what do i do with the bloom lol

sorry im a newb

[loud mango]

Nothing

[static shuttle]

Yeah thats definitely why I was going oom. Just ran one with working on having 4-6 rejuvs out, worked way better

[loud mango]

It just increases your healing

[lyric otter]

do i just keep lifebloom on myself

[static shuttle]

Is switching lifebloom target worth losing stacks for the added healing boost in high keys?

[spark river]

This is raid advice

This doesnt account for your m+ problems

[static shuttle]

Well it just worked in my last dungeon lol

[spark river]

What Kaelon said was raid advice

[plain steeple]

That was just raidtalk btw. But If you play VI in M+ and use it for rejuvs a lot of times, you will have enough abundance stacks anyways.

[spark river]

You cant have 12 abundancei n a key

[static shuttle]

Ik its 10 max.

[loud mango]

If you're tracking targeted spells, then 100%

Like if someone is about to eat a channel

I'll swap it to them before it goes out

[static shuttle]

Sounds good

[sick tree]

Right

[plain steeple]

If you‘d play prosperity in M+ it gets a bit more complex because you will here and there use sotf for regrowths and will cast some extra rejuvs. Getting oom with prosperity in M+ can happen really fast if you‘re not very experienced on resto.

[crystal kettle]

can anyone give me some advice regarding resto druid mana in raid?? im always oom halfway through the fight and way before any other healer?

[spark river]

Link a log and i ll tell you why

[crystal kettle]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/acjwfYKnLW4XPpq2?fight=5&type=healing&source=2 did this today

[lyric otter]

what part of windstalker is better hps? anything I can try to proc on purpose for more hps?

[spark river]

You are not casting regrowth and swiftmend enough, so your mana saving through abundance is very low

If you re constantly going out of mana, its because you only rejuv people

Your overall cpm is also very bad

And you need to press more buttons

[crystal kettle]

ohhh okay thank you yes i only spam rejuv thought it was best

[plain steeple]

You should have like 4 times the amount of Regrowth casts. And 50% more swiftmend.

[west topaz]

we have a random buff that also makes regrowth free sometimes is part of this

[crystal kettle]

ive only ever tanked standing still to cast feels so off

[west topaz]

and just cheaper thru abundance in general

[crystal kettle]

abudance caps at 12 right?

[spark river]

Yes

[rancid portal]

yes

[crystal kettle]

okay get to 12 & focus more on swiftmend + regrowth?

[spark river]

Aim for a 1:1 rejuv to regrowth ratio and more swiftmending

[west topaz]

if youre using arcUI you can track abundance stacks as a cute bar that turns bright red if youre not doing a good job with rejuv

[spark river]

Also pressing your buttons a lot more

[crystal kettle]

will do

[spark river]

Overall cpm is recommended to be at least >50 and you re at 42

[crystal kettle]

ill get this too

[rancid portal]

didnt know about that how to activate this?

[west topaz]

it's very custom

[crystal kettle]

ahhh okay my 40 regrowths to 210 rejuvs not the best then

[plain steeple]

Make sure you play Verdant Infusion and use swiftmend on the player with Lifebloom and 2 rejuvs (mostly on yourself!).
Most of the time you should use rejuvs with sotf.

[west topaz]

i put conditional and tickmarks on it

[spark river]

Yeah its very bad

[crystal kettle]

sorry what does sotf mean ?

[west topaz]

soul of the forest buff

[plain steeple]

Soul of the forest. The proc you get for casting swiftmend.

[crystal kettle]

ahaa okay

[spark river]

There is a big mistake in your lb casts

[rancid portal]

so that means lifebloom on myslef in raids?

[crystal kettle]

was just gonna ask this too

[spark river]

13/15 times you are not refreshing 3 stacks

Its also only at 55% uptime

That kills a lot of your apex healing

[plain steeple]

Mostly. You can switch it to someone with an absorb. But that should make sense in your group comp. If you have 2 holy pallys for example, I wouldn’t switch.

[sick tree]

A macro helped me …
Swiftmend+rejuv+wildgrowth
(For the Soul of the Forest)

[crystal kettle]

ohh i totally forgot about this

[plain steeple]

Wild growth is independent from swiftmend.

[sick tree]

Y

[plain steeple]

With wild growth you also control your mana.

[spark river]

Your everbloom is healing 12% while with proper play that should be over 20%

[sick tree]

But it is effecient for mana

[west topaz]

this is kind of a bad habit macro

[crystal kettle]

thank you i wouldve never realized that

[spark river]

Yeah its a bad macro

[plain steeple]

Youre welcome. Feel free to ask if you need anything. We‘re here to help.

[spark river]

Very suspect of how many people that wg is hitting

[west topaz]

i just track sotf and i put it under my hotbar and the text says SOUL so i get dopamine for using it up

i dont need to but i do it anyway

[solid cedar]

Morning all, I am running the kotg caster build for M+ and having better results (personally) than the ws caster build. but i was looking for a way to track the Call of the Elder Druid's 1min cd before it can be triggered again. i am finding myself triggering it while finishing off a pack and losing almost half the up time for it where i could be saving this for the next pack

I have added the buff to the CDM and i can see when i have it active but unable to see how long the CD has left before i can proc the buff again

[loud mango]

You want to track the debuff, not the buff

I see mine on my dander's frame

[solid cedar]

❤️ honestlyt so simple!

[loud mango]

So I've been using that to know when to press it

[rancid portal]

how can I track the "3" stacks proper?

[sudden rover]

why swiftmend on lifebloom? with the new apex talent I think it's better to swiftmend a random rejuv player and let lifebloom drop so I can pandemic it

if I swiftmend lifebloom the bloom never comes since it's always refreshed

and I want to profit from everbloom a lot

[white sentinel]

does anyone know if the 3rd boss in WR still damages adds with his bladestorm?

[loud mango]

I don't think it ever did?

Think that was a claude myth

[gritty moth]

soo in raid max 12 abundance and in m+6-10?

[kind musk]

Anyone got the link for the kotg caster build? Hoping to try it out

[plain steeple]

Refreshing lifebloom in pandemic would lead to ~10% more bloom procs. But that needs an extra GCD. If you use swiftmend with VI on that target, it will receive +8s duration. So a fully buffed target gets +24s of duration combined for rejuvs and lifebloom.
Also you apply a Wildstalker symbiotic bloom to that target (with the implant talent).
It therefore receives another mastery stack and +20% healing.

And you usually do that on yourself because you receive +24-44% extra healing by other talents as well.

And don’t let Lifebloom drop ever. Have 100% uptime in raid.

[indigo fable]

does swiftmending LB after bloom allow it to bloom again when it reaches that window

[rancid portal]

After reviewing my Log, how to make this 7 awful casts good?

[wild bear]

I've been using Nem's for the audio cues to remind me of the pandemic windows

[plain steeple]

Don’t switch lifebloom around and don’t refresh it too early with the lifebloom cast itself. The pandemic range is 4.5s.

[sudden rover]

How can it only be 10% more everbloom procs? I pandemic every 10 seconds, Vi fucks it up so hard. Also you are telling me things I know below, but not explaining why it's better

[rancid portal]

can you tell me hwo to set this up?

[lusty vortex]

Everbloom healing comes from Photosynthesis and Apex 4, not refreshes

[plain steeple]

But that metric is not very relevant. Situational a red one could even be good. For example on heavy dots where you swap LB or for big absorbs in raid.

[rancid portal]

oh thanks that means i manually switched LB to other targets?

[boreal karma]

He did explain

[wild bear]

just need to download the addon, most of it is predone since the guy who made it plays RDruid, you can then customize the audio cues and timing for the pandemic windows in the options

[plain steeple]

Lifebloom lasts 15s. So by refreshing it you can pandemic refresh it once every 15s on average.
In the meantime you also use more than one swiftmend that gives 3 blooms each time and you have a lot of photosynthesis procs.

[limpid jacinth]

If you aim for 10 Abundance in a key, you’re gonna be OoM constantly.

[gritty moth]

so 4-6 abundance its ok?

[plain steeple]

Most likely, yes. Or you let it drop.

[limpid jacinth]

4-6 abundance is usually all you will need, yes.

[rancid portal]

cant find Nem´s in Wago?

[limpid jacinth]

At 4 stacks, Regrowth becomes cheaper than Rejuv.

[glossy copper]

Apex talent says Everbloom is on LB's "final bloom", what is that "final bloom" ?

[loud mango]

Basically whenever it blooms

[wild bear]

curseforge

[loud mango]

But you have a bunch of talents that make it bloom early

refreshing in pandemic, photo, sotf use

[rancid portal]

this one

[spark river]

Use lifebloomalert

[glossy copper]

Oh what a poor wording. Gotcha thx !

[wild bear]

yea!

you can customize to remind you when Swift is off CD as well, really helpful

[rancid portal]

ok thanks, and by using sm on lb does it prolong the pandemic? dont understand else

[cedar horizon]

is it just me or the kotg m+ build feels amazing in terms of dps but lackluster in terms of healing output?

[spark river]

Extends lb, but pandemic stays 4.5s

[rancid portal]

top answer as always thanks!

[cyan tangle]

Anyone know of any additional bonus rolls blizzard have given out I just did a random 10 and got another 2 bonus rolls

[loud mango]

it's great if you're in a coordinated group pulling big

[cyan tangle]

I’ve already used mine for the week

[loud mango]

If you're in a pug pulling 4 mobs it's pretty bad

[toxic burrow]

Just realized that too

[limpid jacinth]

There’s a reason that no one here is recommending it for your average player.

[cedar horizon]

they gave back the rolls u used before the "fix"

[cyan tangle]

I’ll take that 😂

[toxic burrow]

Is it just better in terms of damage then? And just to be used if you're sure you're not gonna have issues healing ever?

[crystal kettle]

do you guys have any addon/way to remind when to recast lifebloom? I forget always

[loud mango]

I'ts great for damage, but also good for healing if your starfire is hitting like 10 things

[toxic burrow]

Lifebloom glow

[spark river]

Lifebloomalert

[crystal kettle]

thank you 🙏

[candid peak]

any1 know how i can set up stagger in danders frames?

[cedar horizon]

use grid2 😛

had the same issue and couldnt find a fix showing just stagger

[violet finch]

if you cast starfire in base form with fluid form do you get the bonuses from moonkin casting?

[spark river]

I d say no

You just get shifted into moonkin from the first starfire

[static shuttle]

Anyone able to look over my logs tell me what I can do better?

if so, id appreciate it... https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/f1X7W9FaRDpyzdYV?fight=last&type=healing&source=156

[violet finch]

oki

is it not worth the talent point then?

[loud mango]

You're still saving the global

You're just losing a little damage on your first starfire

[true fjord]

I like how i got shit on for my kotg balance spec post before patch and it turns out that's the actual wowhead build now lol

[harsh quail]

its literally not but go off king

[violet finch]

sounds good

[stuck totem]

How important is this talent?

[spark river]

Its a meme build for your weekly keys

[loud mango]

I don't take it since I like standing in my efflo anyways

[plain steeple]

Everyone expected our two major bugs around starfire to get fixed.

If they buff a spell that is bugged twice and already does doubled damage of what it should do, it’s getting a bit out of control.

For padding starfire was better before 12.0.5 anyways.
They should have buffed cat spells.

[waxen ingot]

its very close in hps

[oak garnet]

I think you need to be critical of what keys you're doing. If it's sub like12-13 (where you can play whatever) or you're coordinated in comms pushing 19+ there are certainly (dungeon dependent) applications for doc. If you are doing 15-19 keys and pugging, on average, you will fail more keys than playing ws which is a safer pick

[waxen ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/cretoi-icssmoke-gif-18150152580473674997

[plain steeple]

Depends on how extreme you play it. With some builds and playstyles you definitely hurt your healing a lot.
Sometimes even in a 12 people almost die. But you do 60k dps. 🤷‍♂️

[waxen ingot]

if you almost die in a 12

you are almost dying cause u didnt press a single heal button

[oak garnet]

Druid can heal 12s w rejuv 2/2 tv and apex

[plain steeple]

That’s the thing about this build. You almost don’t press healing buttons. You press regrowths to optimise your starfire damage.

[oak garnet]

Barely even rg

[waxen ingot]

the build was never

dont hit heal buttons

and its not even a "build"

[oak garnet]

It's 2 talents

Ye

[plain steeple]

Depends on what you talent.

[waxen ingot]

you are taking 1 extra talent that carries rotting dmg in aoe

[plain steeple]

And how you play.

[oak garnet]

People playing doc have 230 starfires in a dungeon can't really act like they aren't totally changing how they play tho 😂

[waxen ingot]

sure

you are not dying in those packs anyway

if u just click random heal buttons

[limpid jacinth]

You’re casting Rejuv way too much, you need to play around Abundance more. You had a couple deaths to avoidable mechanics. You’re not using WG or Swiftmend enough.

[limpid jacinth]

Your class tree is kind of a mess (sunfire but taking cat talents? very few defensive talents and no incap roar). You’re not using Ursine Vigor which is fine in a 13 but why take the talent just to not use it.

[potent ferry]

does anyone have a way to track call of the elder druid, i like the build but dislike that i cant tell when i can proc it again

[sudden rover]

watch ur debuff

when its gone u can

[potent ferry]

wait am i blind i didnt see debuff let me check again

[limpid jacinth]

535 Rejuvs in a +13 is insanity

[potent ferry]

ah

its the same icon as hotw so i thought it was debuff from that

im stinky

[sudden rover]

they should introduce a catchup mechanic for dawncrests, I dinged 90 on my 3rd alt and now I somehow have to farm 600 hero+mythic dawncrests

crazy

and it's only 10 per key

wtf

[static shuttle]

yeah the tree is something i literally juist cnpd for that run to try it out lmao

[static shuttle]

should i be casting wg on CD? i wait to cast it when 3 or more people are hurt

[limpid jacinth]

Not really but there’s also no point in it sitting there off CD for lengths of time. Need to get better knowing when a WG will give you enough mastery stacks to get through healing and back to dpsing.

[keen wave]

I've never done real caster dps as resto before. Do I enter Moonkin form or do I just cast my damage spells in caster form? The post linked in resources calls it Owlweaving but doesn't actually mention what to do in terms of moonkin form

[toxic burrow]

just got a Myth Echo of L'ura trinket, worth anything for resto?

[limpid jacinth]

not particularly

[supple seal]

You don’t go into boomkin form. If you are using the DOC build then you probably have fluid form and it will put you into owl when you cast dmg spells

[keen wave]

I imported the wowhead build and it doesn't have fluid

[supple seal]

But with the recommended builds, don’t shift

[keen wave]

M+ build that is

[supple seal]

The wowhead doesn’t use doc