resto

[dense lantern]

yes

[silent onyx]

damned

[thorn plover]

Better? No. More DPS? Yes

[silent onyx]

i don't like casters

[wise galleon]

(not playing boomie) playing magic damage doe

[silent onyx]

yeah that's what i meant

[thorn plover]

Absolute shit gameplay

[wise galleon]

just incase

[dense lantern]

at least fucking boomkins have instant casts and fun procs

[vestal igloo]

this

[stable verge]

Well if you play kotg that is

[dense lantern]

What procs does kotg have

[thorn plover]

I think he means real boomie

[dense lantern]

I mean real boomie

[stable verge]

Ah

Well who cares about 24/7 chicken

Though I would agree caster gameplay as Resto is the most brainrot shit I've done this patch

[thorn plover]

You get an instant Starfire every 5 regrowth casts (which is bugged where if you sotf regrowth it counts for 5+)

[dense lantern]

no yeah i mean in real boomie

[thorn plover]

Ya

[silent onyx]

xD i didn't know about the bug

[thorn plover]

I figured

[silent onyx]

so realistically should i switch to playing caster over kitty?

[dense lantern]

yes

[silent onyx]

damn

[pulsar hill]

You dont have to be it's advisable to try

[dense lantern]

well i mean

healers heal

[thorn plover]

It's your $15

[dense lantern]

unless youre doing title keys no one will complain if you dps as cat

[lusty jolt]

Raid approach is:

Lifebloom on self
Swiftmend whenever available on self?

[dense lantern]

well

unless you're doing title or +2

for different reasons

[stable verge]

It's cool to reach 100k+ on some packs but otherwise ye, whatever

[real stump]

do we symbiotic tank or squishies in m+?

[dense lantern]

swiftmend on people that need healing

[silent onyx]

i always lifebloom on someone else cause i cba staying in the pack xD (typically lifebloom on my sympiotic target)

[stable verge]

Whoever needs the most. I tend to put on squishies on semi-high keys

[dense lantern]

and lb to maximize efflo

[lusty jolt]

You mean for Efflo?

[silent onyx]

yeah

[whole horizon]

nah if you play VI youre not using SM for healing value in raid

you SM yourself on CD with LB and RJx2 or your LB target if it isnt yourself

[silent onyx]

also i typically am not the one dying to damage since i have healthstone + potion and defensives that can help me but can't help others

[thorn plover]

I haven't used a stone or healthpot yet this expansion. I'm keeping track 😏

[dim pike]

not sure what i should show in indicators, can dm you w/e - thank you

[whole horizon]

go to Indicators

at the bottom of the list find "private-aura-dispels"

disable it

[dim pike]

got it -will try that

[whole horizon]

it's a new indicator they added during update, that should be responsible for the full frame highlight + the colored squiggly indicator

[dim pike]

just delete it entirely?

[whole horizon]

nah there should be a way to turn it off

[silent onyx]

i used to not use enough of them when i started playing, and since then realised in tense situations if i use a potion instead of a healing spell on myself it basically gives me a free GCD to heal someone else

[dim pike]

kk

y'all are amazing, tyvm

[whole horizon]

just make sure its not enabled with any Statuses and if it comes to it, try to set it to Load Never

but if you cant figure out another way you can try deleting it idk

[thorn plover]

After the HotFix last night I was actually super happy with my frames and what I could see

[ocean tusk]

Anyone else having DC issues? My Internet isn't going out, still talking in disc, but my game will lose connection for 10-30 seconds at a time

[thorn plover]

Huge improvement, although the bar was not set very high

[uncut hedge]

did someone get the 3,4k achiev already? cause i achieved 3,4k before the patch and didnt get it yet

[whole horizon]

yeah idk what happened

[dense lantern]

its disabled

[whole horizon]

if its just a grid2 thing or the update

[dense lantern]

this i mean

[whole horizon]

dispels were so fking easy last night

[uncut hedge]

u know why?

[dense lantern]

yes

[thorn plover]

I'm using Danders, and changed 0 settings, and it's a million times better than it was before the hotfix

[dense lantern]

blizzard can't release a decent patch

[whole horizon]

i could see dread breath target+dispel and dispels on Chim very easily for the first time

[dense lantern]

and everything is broken

[thorn plover]

Is this the first time blizz has released an apology letter after a patch?

[whole horizon]

nah

[dense lantern]

nah

[thorn plover]

Ah so it's meaningless

Got it

[uncut hedge]

so they intented to put it in and it didnt work

[whole horizon]

ppl have short memories

[dense lantern]

yeah

[thorn plover]

Ready to do it again in .7

[uncut hedge]

so they will bring it later and then for 3,6k

[dense lantern]

its coming soon ™

[whole horizon]

if it was an actual apology everybody would have received free game time credit to their accounts

[dense lantern]

i mean, let me be honest

im paying monthly

everyone is

[uncut hedge]

nah they know ppl will still pay

[dense lantern]

what does 3 free days mean anyways

[whole horizon]

its the principle

[thorn plover]

I'm getting 2 extra bonus rolls

That's something

[dense lantern]

Same

[whole horizon]

thats honestly cringe

[dense lantern]

And you are not getting them

[whole horizon]

if you rolled and succeeded early on you just win

[hybrid tangle]

Haha, but also a shit gameplay spec, I've gone back to cat, I don't care

[uncut hedge]

3 days = 1,5$

oh nooo

[whole horizon]

bc you dont need to waste further rolls on that boss 99% of the time

[thorn plover]

Holding your rolls was the wrong play

Shoulda sent it

[dense lantern]

I sent

[thorn plover]

I did too

[whole horizon]

like i said, its the principle

[silent onyx]

i went for wrong play and bad rolls 😢

[dense lantern]

what principle, i disagree

principle doesnt mean shit

like

[whole horizon]

they actually gave you something as an apology, but i see you are satisfied by empty words

the empty words they said last time

[dense lantern]

sure they could do that and it would cost them nothing

but

it's because it costs them nothing

[whole horizon]

and the time before that

[dense lantern]

that it's meaningless

i'm not satisfied by either

and it sucks

but

such is life, you're still gonna be paying for the game

i can just hope that enough people that aren't me unsub

[thorn plover]

😂

I hate this game , but it's more addicting than crack

[hasty karma]

I love this game, I hate this company

[bold ore]

i'm looking for a tl:dr of caster form dps i'm not sure what to press it feels like dots are a bait

any help ?

[dense lantern]

Thankfully it's not the case for me

I just find that whatever i'm paying them gives me a barely passable experience

[tough portal]

That just means the same thing purrformance said

You hate it but you're too addicted to tell yourself it's bad

[idle lake]

so vi is better ?

[humble mantle]

question, do people drop cat dmg talents now in m+ or they play both?

[dense lantern]

meh

its a fun game

[subtle cobalt]

#resto message

[dense lantern]

who knows

I don't think it is

[idle lake]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1050078382018265178/1454397083413909630/ezgif-395a166e2e34663d.gif

[bold ore]

❤️

[dense lantern]

i routinely waste money on worse stuff so

eg keeping dg.gg up

[tidal sigil]

What talents would be fine to drop to get Dream og cenarius and potentially call of the elder druid? in m+

[dim pike]

This fixed it - you're the man. Thanks again!

this was driving me nuts.

I can rest easy now.

[calm dirge]

For Seat how do you guys deal with warrior tanks? I feel like whenever the champions charge the tank they just goes splat

[fierce isle]

If you’re going to play a meme build just pick whatever you want :p

[wise galleon]

What does Statuses mean here? I cant find that option, im trying to fix the same thing

For what indicator statuses

[hard bear]

Is there a known bug for everbloom happening with no lifebloom up?

[wise galleon]

Ive disabled private-auras-dispells, disabled inside blizzard the same thing Todd disabled

[vivid owl]

is that one of the first pulls in the dungeon? if so, i have no idea, i just pray

[subtle cobalt]

Champions only charge to apply bleeds if tank is 10 yards or something from them. Tank should be designing the pulls so they can pull the packs to them and stay fairly stationary, or only stutter step/shuffle if needed. At least that's my experience with them.

[calm dirge]

Well it's kinda at the start and then at the 2nd portal dude. Our tank likes to pull one champion pack with that one, which is fine but they just charge, he gets like 3 stacks and dies

[calm dirge]

Yea that's what i was thinking. I know I sometimes forget to use all my hots on them, but surely they shouldn't die within 3 seconds if i forget to use hots on them

i hope at least

[subtle cobalt]

Yeah, tell him to stop moving so much. It shouldn't be necessary with those packs anyway. The first lot are all in a fairly tight circle so pull your 2/3 packs, finish it off, move over and do the next.

[tough portal]

Is your green name p2w?

Crazy

[dense lantern]

[tulip flax]

first roll gamba 😄

[whole horizon]

in most cases, an Indicator only shows data because a Status has been assigned to it - what data it is supposed to show. i don't think private-aura-dispels has a Status associated with it, so disregard that.

[wise galleon]

Yeah I deleted it, only option

Couldnt find any way to not load it or disable it

[tulip nexus]

nice, still hasnt dropped on hero track for me after a trillion runs 😄 gz

[whole horizon]

i got the belt from chim last night

[thorn plover]

Me too 🫪

[whole horizon]

right after i got awarded the belt bc it also dropped

[blissful goblet]

I finally got the vest after a roll but still hunting that ring

[thorn plover]

Most the time this is true. This week has been a bit trying lol

Not necessarily a blizz issue, but spending 20 minutes mid raid trying to get people to install janky weakauras for paladins almost sent me off the edge

Stix sprocket flashbacks

[tulip nexus]

I've seen that belt 3 times now, only time I could roll on it was when it had speed as extra roll on it

[soft dagger]

Omg did the compensation go out?

[tulip nexus]

since i had the same belt hero track capped

[restive kettle]

How often do people abandon keys, I'm specifically progressing through +16 at the moment and feel I abandoned more than I time. Am I the problem 😅

[dense lantern]

Abandon rate is not a metric for success

Did people die because of you

?

[thorn plover]

Abandon at things higher than 12 is quite common

[restive kettle]

Well define because of me, most of the time it's either of us could have saved the situation

[thorn plover]

Although most of the dungeons you can time with a ton of deaths

[tidal sigil]

A full wipe on a boss on 16s usually mean its hard to time and people just give up. Unless its giga pumpers

[soft dagger]

It's very normal for pug to abandon key. I was in a 15 yesterday we were crushing then we got full wipe. Immediately the abandon vote go out. Did get passed. We timed the key comfortably. I mean at 15/16 you can have 15-20 death and still time. But people just like to abandon

[thorn plover]

I timed a 16 seat with 14 deaths last night

[dense lantern]

Wym "define"

brother

could have you played better

or not

[forest abyss]

there's no point in completing a dead key unless for vault, but doing keys above 12 for vault is a bit hm

[restive kettle]

99% of deaths outside of insta deaths there is a way they could have been prevented usually. For example on WRS I can heal people through a whole fire spit but I'd hope that they are stunned especially if other damage is going out. So I'd say others could of more easily prevented the death but I also could have found a way through

If that makes sense

[worthy umbra]

GL on higher keys with this

[restive kettle]

Same as if they haven't used a defensive for hard hitting overlaps, I could have saved them potentially

[dense lantern]

fam

my man

just play better

like who cares about what others coulve shoulve

you can't influence their gameplay

thats absolutely a terrible mentality to have

[haughty ibex]

yeah fire spit surely healable smile

[restive kettle]

I think you are completely misunderstanding me

I 100% review everything I do to see where I can improve

[haughty ibex]

i think is wrong by to say u can heal a mechanic u are never supposed to heal

[restive kettle]

I don't blame others at all, just trying to work out how harsh I should be on myself when someone else could have avoided it more easily than myself

[haughty ibex]

is wrong of u to fix problems that aren’t urs. u shouldn’t be healing ts, maybe u should roar or typhoon or anything else, i think that would be better advice

[wise galleon]

I made power to be available only on bdks and attached it to the Mana indicator: bar but it still loads and has a different rule of loading (example im playing Druid and it shows on me)

[dense lantern]

i think this is absolutely an insane take to have if your goal is to improve and do better

[wise galleon]

Is it possible to display runpower ONLY on bdks on that indicator

[haughty ibex]

u can blame others when they make a mistake that caused a death, just like is right to blame urself when u make a mistake etc

not even blame, but like acknowledge that is someone’s miss play mainly

[dense lantern]

your strength as a player is also determined by how well you can help others recover from their mistakes

[dense lantern]

if you could've done something and you didn't then it's on you

[tidal sigil]

who do you guys send symbiotic relationship on in m+?

[dense lantern]

it's also on them sure

[haughty ibex]

making a mistake in a certain keylvl means 99% death

[dense lantern]

we're not talking about that because there's no point in talking about that

[wise galleon]

tanks or dractyhr, targets that need more healing because they have worse defensives (maybe shamans or druid) i dont know exactly

[dense lantern]

if they go from 100 to 0 in half a second there's nothing you could've done

[wise galleon]

rogues are also kinda squishy and they are melee

[dense lantern]

and theres no discussion to have

if they forgot to use a defensive and you could've timed bark on them instead

that's a different thing

[haughty ibex]

do yk if they still have 2x feint

or how do their defs work other than dodge and cloak

[wise galleon]

cheat death when they get low

they do have feint

15sec cd zamn

[haughty ibex]

meh idk if I totally agree, i get wym but also i expect them to first use defs when they are targeted by smth

but ig that also depends from group to group

[ruby inlet]

I've been blindly playing m+ for a couple weeks on resto. Did they take away the buff that SoTF gave to wildgrowth? it only bufffs rejuv and regrowth now?

[thorn plover]

Yes

[ruby inlet]

😢

[haughty ibex]

idk if i would call rogues squishy exactly

can bypass so many mecs with cloak too

[ruby inlet]

That's hilarious. I've been swiftmending into WG for 2 weeks

[kind star]

feint is 2 charge and like what 50-60% aoe dr?

[wise galleon]

Probably not ye

[haughty ibex]

i think 40

[restive kettle]

Well I always look at how I can improve but I guess there is no easy way to judge what's a reasonable number of mistakes to save as each situation is unique. I definitely don't let them die because they've failed something. It's just a lot to process in .3 seconds to always make the perfect play.

[kind star]

oh right I dont think they even use the talent for 10% in hero tree

[haughty ibex]

ye im not sure what talent they play, i think they even play cheat death and not dr on other defd

[kind star]

seems like it from glancing at builds on wowhead havent touched outlaw since DF, apparently they have some giga visual cluttering smoke bombs now ?

[wise galleon]

I think they just added those with last patch

they are horrible for Maisara raining toads

[haughty ibex]

ye they do

a fatass fart bomb

that makes so hard to see ground too

[kind star]

oh and its tied to AR too rofl x)

[storm elm]

I'm seeing a few top players run call of the elder druid build, is this actually viable or is it troll

[pulsar hill]

Are you seeing it in high keys? Cause i personally like playing it in 10's with KotG just do blast some more damage as I grind crests / weekly

[storm elm]

People are running it in 16s but it seems pretty rare

[limpid jacinth]

It’s pretty meme. Fine for your weekly 14-15s and, in a coordinated group, some WF pushers are using it to ramp up their overall group damage but it’s not really applicable outside of that niche case.

[limpid jacinth]

Tbf, you can run anything in 16s

[storm elm]

Fair enough, I just know before the most recent patch it was pretty troll to run but it seems kind of viable now

[limpid jacinth]

“Kind of” is doing a lot of heavy lifting there

[untold perch]

What efflorescence % do we want to aim for with active % and effective %? I consistently keep active over 90% but effective is all over lol

[fleet jewel]

r1 MC used it 5 hours ago

[limpid jacinth]

Copying niche builds used in stacked premades is always a good idea

[fleet jewel]

anything used in rank 1 keys is viable

[limpid jacinth]

you’re stretching the definition of “viable” to the breaking point

[thorn plover]

You can basically rng our talent tree and do top keys

[fleet jewel]

what is your bar for viability?

[limpid jacinth]

it being at all realistic for any random person here to copy and see success

[vapid lily]

What is the play for 1st pull algethar when people start taking damage before the tank has gathered? Twice i've died now from a single rejuv. Surely I cant fully wait for every mob to be in the tank's face before I press 1 spell? Won't people just die? Im very confused 😂

[thorn plover]

Pre hot and go stealth

[spark river]

hot him before he starts pulling and stealth

[true viper]

Hey there! I'm pretty new to rdruid, started last week, having played mostly Evoker Preservation those last 4 years. It's a completely different way of healing but is very cool, enjoying it quite a lot for now.

But I have a question about some of the guides I read. It's said often in guides to Swiftmend our Life Bloom target on cooldown.
Can you explain me why it's important that swiftmend is cast on the lifebloom target and not an other party member? I understand about using SM on cooldown and while LB is up for the soul of the forest procs, but just unsure why spefically on the LB target.

[grizzled seal]

Your goal is to cast fewer lifeblooms and extend rejuvs

I assume this is for raid

[true viper]

Oh, ok I see, it's mostly just to extend LB and save some globals?

[white sentinel]

peopel running kotg for m+ now?

[spark river]

no

[grizzled seal]

You extend lifebloom, extend 2 rejuvs, that's around 5-6 cpm saved

[vapid lily]

Ok cool, thanks all. Hadn't thought of the prehot and stealth. I did try SM but threat came back as soon as I put my hands back on the keyboard and had to move

[thorn plover]

4 rejuv, 2 lb, sm (with VI), stealth

Is my go to for that pull

[spark river]

2 lb hol up

[grizzled seal]

We also play Wildstalker in raids now which also uses Implant. So it puts symbiotic bloom on lifebloom target which then starts pulsing apex with 20% increased healing and an extra mastery stack

[vapid lily]

Will give it a try, thanks!

[true viper]

Thanks! I guess in keys its still better to cast SM on a target needing a heal rather than a almost full health LB target for example? (and if I have the time move the LB on this new target before?)

[grizzled seal]

You should play prosperity in keys because there is significant downtime there often

So you can actually use more swiftmends during dmg

In raids you always do healing

[willow furnace]

guys can some1 explain me why SEAT second boss im allways missing circle under me to clear orbs ? Allways the first one i dont get

and its every time in there

[strong copper]

is thalassian phoenix torque an actual good neck or is it better to craft something with an embellishment? for reference I have a champ neck

[thorn plover]

Just for max duration. I'm saying I cast all that on the tank

[idle lake]

how it feels to be 280 ilvl 3k score getting rejected from weekly 12s

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1060231686425690183/1236303425642172416/VID_GIF-1695923991-1.gif

[unreal minnow]

there are a million other druids with similar stats apping that key

[true viper]

Yes, this is what I do (mostly following the guides for now, but trying to understand the theory behind a bit better :D)

[idle lake]

theyve been sat without taking a healer for 10 mins

[unreal minnow]

unlucky 😄 maybe keyholder went afk

[idle lake]

maybe

[scenic pilot]

Do people usually have an audio tracker for the VI Swiftmend CD in raid, or do they manually watch it via CD manager

[heady wigeon]

Hi Guys. I swapped to Nightelf but Shadowmeld doenst seem to always drop combat. is there some trick to it? like it doesnt even drop for 1 sec so I can drink. Do i need to macro with /stopcasting? Or get away from the fight? or something? Thank you!

[strong copper]

some pulls are just like this

[idle lake]

most bosses too

[strong copper]

yeah you can almost never drink during boss fights but 90% of trash you can

also anyone else miss the weak aura that told you exactly what spells and abilities you could shadowmeld when you were targetted by them. RIP

[next blaze]

where we using our voidcores at? (i dont raid on this resto alt)

[heady wigeon]

okay but i have it quite often at trash too.. seems odd to me. but thank you

[unique geyser]

10s for mythic gear

[heady wigeon]

you can check method.gg guides. they have the icon next to all spells from dungeons

[next blaze]

well ye but which dungons lol

[idle lake]

nexus point

[heady wigeon]

i did nexus. for weapon, finger, hands, feet etc

[strong copper]

windrunner has good trinket. nexus and MT have good rings

[unique geyser]

100% nexus since so much comes from there

But also Windrunner for that trinket

[soft dagger]

Even if you don't raid just pug the dream rift since that trinket is so good and it might take less time than doing a key

[lethal bridge]

Hi, just wanted to reach out and ask how are you all tracking the Lifebloom to maximize your uptime? Is the CDM sufficient for you or you build a custom WeakAura?

[scenic pilot]

LifeBloomAlert addon, then change the sound from Text to Speech (TTS) to a different sound since TTS is currently not working correctly

[lethal bridge]

intriguing

[thorn plover]

TTS is fixed

[scenic pilot]

Ah okay, must have been recent since it was still broken for me yesterday. Good to know

[lethal bridge]

Yup, they fixed early today I think. I will take a look at the addon. Is that like a "public knoweldge" this addon exist and most people use it? Or are there other methods that people use? I made a weakaura for it, but I'm not entirely happy with it.

[thorn plover]

Fixed around 9pm CST yesterday

About 12 hours ago

[thorn plover]

Lots here are using it

[lethal bridge]

Guess I should be reading class discord more often 😄

[kind star]

so we get all the other sounds back now :3 ? I hate the TTS always use some sound effect instead like lightsaber

[vapid lily]

This worked great next key, thanks!

[raven turtle]

can you reroll better than myth? If so, what key lvl?

Also how many rerolls do you get a week? 2

[thorn plover]

What is better than myth

[raven turtle]

Idk - I’m new to retail

Idk if ur messing or not

[grizzled seal]

Myth is the highest gear tier

[kind star]

whats the total amount of sparks you can get atm?

[idle lake]

bonus rolled and got it from the dungeon

my chud life

[fierce isle]

At least you get to roll again and get one more of those

But it’ll be the last one i promise

[rustic coyote]

Nowadays it is really easy to gear up. You basically end up max ilvl by the time that you can collect enough myth crests to upgrade everything (just kinda off-topic)

[idle lake]

i cant get any more no

i think they fixed that bug today

[rustic copper]

just giving free gear

Let’s play on tournament realm

[meager pasture]

in raid do we lstill swiftmend with vi on the lifebloom target, or we try to get the bloom from the refresh and swiftmend smth else ?

[spark river]

like it matters

[cerulean drift]

with the new patch it says convoke is the go to play, my guild runs 2 druids so ive been doing tree and the other has been doing convoke. if i am told to still play tree do i stay with keeper, or swap to wildstalker still?

[spark river]

we re basically close to max already

[rustic coyote]

I was not following the whole chat, are we getting free coins? I rolled my myth gaze yesterday, I would not argue for two extra ones

[heady wigeon]

is it better to swap Haste/Vers to Haste/Crit if i get more haste through it?

[cerulean drift]

crit is dead stat due to abundance. sim it on qelive.

[thorn plover]

Only if you rolled before the hotfix

[rustic copper]

Don’t play tree

[grizzled seal]

I'm eating good lol

I got gaze from my roll and now I'm getting two coins

[spark river]

thoughts on rank 1 myth lura parse boys

rejuv simulator

256 rejuvs is insane

[rustic coyote]

Damn, I rolled after the hotfix

[mystic crater]

At least you got gaze, it’s not a bad thing hah

[lament river]

Why would they force you to tree?

[grizzled seal]

I meant it's the opposite of a bad thing

I'm getting rewarded for whatever the fuck reason

[rustic copper]

I didn’t spend them yet

[grizzled seal]

Owned

[rustic copper]

My alt got a gaze in vault and then coined it

Alt has gaze + leech nexus king trinket both myth at like 275 ilvl

[spark river]

i believe its fallen king now

update your terminology

[cursive pagoda]

is danders frames fixed now?

[grizzled seal]

The fuck you coined this for

If you already got gaze

[cursive pagoda]

was having issues where casting on a frame would apply it to the wrong player among other things

[grizzled seal]

???

[rustic copper]

I had Lura ring in vault

I figure if I hit gaze I take Lura ring

If I hit belt I’m happy

I’m not doing 2 keys

I’ll do 1 max

[rustic coyote]

by the way, did they fix abundance stacks in blizzy UI? I had some issues yesterday where my abu stacks disappeared and I had to feel by heart my abu stacks to heal

[heady wigeon]

ah nice thank you. both items with 50 haste in total more are only 0.2%. so not worth it i guess

[idle lake]

is recrafting still bugged?

[rustic copper]

I haven’t had that issue but in general all addons are scuffed so good luck

[cursive pagoda]

yeah idk how everything got so fucked up, this patch really messed everything up for me

[rustic copper]

Messed up a lot of things for everyone

[idle lake]

also does recrafting remove sockets you put on the items

[rustic coyote]

One of my guildies had 6 holy powers on his UI! Uber Paladin <.<

World of Bugcraft never disappoints

[fierce isle]

Oh were you not showing a duplicate roll? Was one of those items just a drop you already had?

[idle lake]

yeah

i dropped it from the end chest

and then my bonus roll hit it too

[fierce isle]

No you keep sockets, enchants and tertiaries

[idle lake]

ok cool

the preview was saying it will lose its socket

but the preview is buggy anyway

whats the recrafting bug? and is it fixed yet?

i crafted wrong

[fierce isle]

When you upgraded your base crafted item with 80 myth crests you could consume the crests and not get an upgraded item

Idk if it’s fixed

[idle lake]

oh

its already myth

am i safe to recraft

[fierce isle]

Yeah you’re safe

[idle lake]

i just need to change the stats

[fierce isle]

I’d send it

[idle lake]

boom

one step closer to human statlines

[kind star]

ah dang my weapon got crafted at 255

[grizzled seal]

Boom
31% haste

https://tenor.com/view/snail-gif-10110182939587959896

[idle lake]

small incremental gains

[high hawk]

anyone know how to fix grid from showing raid buffs/debuffs?

[fierce isle]

You used myth crests and got a 255 weapon?

[kind star]

nah just a spark weapon was my first craft, isnt the max ilvl 259.

[thorn plover]

Did you specify quality when you put the crafting order in

[kind star]

oh you can do that D: ? I havent played since DF idr that being a thing might be me being dumb

[grizzled seal]

If you do a personal or guild order

Don't make public orders lol

[kind star]

what if I dont got friends!

[thorn plover]

Trade chat

Never public order

[leaden fjord]

^^^^^^^

[kind star]

trolling but mistake learned

[leaden fjord]

You can put crests in and set the min quality when linking the item to more accurately reflect what you're looking for too

[kind star]

ill just get someone in my guild to invite me and craft next time :3

[plain steeple]

lul

Stuff needs to do more damage

[torn thunder]

I know that NS no longer buffs convoke (as it’s been said in here) but is that written in any of the patchnotes?

[grizzled seal]

180k raw on yourself cut out from the screenshot

[bright swift]

Nope lol

[grizzled seal]

They don't post 90% of bug fixes

[real light]

hi guys, is there a way to track the 1min cd on the "call of the Elder druid" talent

[thorn plover]

Yeah you get a debuff the entire minute

[torn thunder]

You get a debuff

[spark river]

yeah by not playing it

[thorn plover]

^ facts

[daring sparrow]

you can track it in blizzard ui/elessmere ui etc

[torn thunder]

I tried it in some 15s - it’s really fun during big lust pull - then it stops and you realise you have no hits out xD

[spark river]

im running it in weekly keys

but other than that

i play the usual way

[thorn plover]

I'm not touching it, because we're getting cat buffs announced today

[torn thunder]

Yeah gonna run it in 10/12 boosts as well but maybe not in anything higher xD

[real light]

any way to display the debuff in CDM? somewhere where i can track it better?

[spark river]

are we actually lol

[torn thunder]

Move your blizzard debuffs close to your CDM

With the edit mode

[spark river]

modern problems require modern solutions

[thorn plover]

You can do it with custom ArcUI bars. No I will not elaborate

[torn thunder]

You could maybe make a m33kaura for it, but don’t think anyone is gonna do it xD

[spark river]

too much work for a meme talent

[grizzled seal]

You can't make a WA for specific debuffs or buffs

[thorn plover]

You can't it's a secret

[bright swift]

They need to fix this lura intermission bug with private auras

[thorn plover]

Only way I know of is with ArcUI bars

[bright swift]

It's insane how this exists

[grizzled seal]

It's a bug with all private auras

Same on paladins

[thorn plover]

I thought they fixed that in the hot fix 12h ago

If you're talking about the mass duplication of them

[leaden fjord]

ts w private auras kinda confuses me bc NSRT and BW both will show them on frames just fine it seems like lol

[bright swift]

I disabled all private auras on Lura

and then today I did chimaerus on my alt and I forgot to turn it back on

so I couldn't see the dispells

[grizzled seal]

Also crystal debuffs were randomly disappearing and appearing on frames

Sometimes I could see who was holding one, sometimes I couldn't

It was very epic

[thorn plover]

Best expansion ever

[spark river]

its actually crazy how many things are fucked

[leaden fjord]

gee, I wonder what tool the company semi-recently bought by microsoft could be using that lead to faster paced lower quality patches lmao

[icy delta]

So this trinket is: trinket usage->moonfire->wrath spam? after ally injured ofc?

[reef zenith]

not really kept up with discussion, but of the bits of keys I've played...think I'm still on the build with cat talents. Feel like it's easier to find those windows for cat. Can see the appeal of the full dream of cenarius KoTG build if group is super organised and can trust or if you're willing to let idiots die for their mistakes just so you can blast hard. The caster builds generally just feel like they're padding though

[leaden fjord]

use and then send HotW in cat form

it triggers all of them at once

[reef zenith]

anyone else thinking similar on the damage options?

[idle lake]

is litany as good as loomithar

[icy delta]

ah okay

[leaden fjord]

you send the cast damage spells outside of moonkin form unless you're doing a damage convoke

so it shouldn't interfere w your healing

[reef zenith]

yeah I get that, but Starfire cast time is 1 eternity later

[mental breach]

Hi, anyone could help me out a bit understand my healing log?
This is my log from the fight/kill:
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/a:nqK3RZWgL6N2HGhz?fight=19&type=summary&source=10
I would like to know why my heal is this low and what can I do to increase it.

[leaden fjord]

Did you check it in wowanalyzer already?

[icy delta]

should i macro it to hotw?

[ebon arch]

Honestly, I've just been finding healing in Raids much tougher than mythics.

[spark river]

PRESS A REGROWTH PLEASE

[gentle nova]

Because druid in m+ is braindead

[leaden fjord]

I guess? their cooldowns aren't perfectly synced so I don't

[spark river]

low swiftmend cpm, overall cpm < 50 and almost zero regrowths

[gentle nova]

Youre spamming rejuv like it was 2008

[spark river]

and you re mana potting twice

because you cant find a regrowth

on your keyboard

11/25 casts where you didnt extend your lb with vi

8/27 lb casts didnt trigger a bloom and 5/27 you re not refreshing 3 stacks

27/152 rejuvs clipped

[mental breach]

I tried but such info is nowhere in the wowanalyzer. OR I am looking at the wrong place.

[spark river]

you didnt cast a wg before 3 convokes and before 1 tranq

[ebon arch]

About how many stacks of abundance should you be aiming for in Mythics?

[spark river]

A lot to work on my friend

6-12 in raid

[spark river]

You also dont have main stat gem in a socket

[kind star]

you want about like 1:1 rejuv/regrowth ratio kinda right?

[mental breach]

@spark river Where can I see this kind of info?

In the raid logs or in the wowanalyzer?

[gentle nova]

In the log

Analyzer isnt that useful its just basic tips

[spark river]

i looked at both

[spark river]

yes

Some people prefer more regrowths, some more rejuvs, but general advice is 1:1 ratio

[kind star]

great ill keep that in mind ill probably send a normal raid this weekend havent raided on dudu in a while

[mental breach]

Where can I find these info in the logs:
"11/25 casts where you didnt extend your lb with vi", 8/27 lb casts didnt trigger a bloom and 5/27 you re not refreshing 3 stacks, "27/152 rejuvs clipped"?

[spark river]

wowanalyzer

[final cairn]

It's literally the front page overview on wowanalyzer

[rustic copper]

Are you doing a crystal in i1?

[grizzled seal]

Yes

Doing it all fight

Litany is fucking trash lol

Stop trolling

[spark river]

as good as keeper is in wf keys

[grizzled seal]

You can't even control who the absorb goes on

[spark river]

the dungeonns

with negative damage

where the healer plants and starfires for 90% of the time

might as well run no trinkets

wouldnt make a difference

Im saying that without a set team in such dungeons you re not getting the same result

[grizzled seal]

It's essential we run a trinket that gives 5x 50k absorbs to 5 random players for 5 casts

Without this dmg reduction we cannot complete the key

Read the numbers

[spark river]

If litany was worth it people would play it

Its fairly simple

[grizzled seal]

Play stare if you wanna burst there

Talking to m+ players is like talking to a wall

Circular logic

I'm not asking you

[quiet wyvern]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/965181691981357056/986899439698448394/cat_in_pot_verysad.gif

[grizzled seal]

You read "absorb" and think it's good without looking at numbers or how it works

[rustic copper]

Do you tranq i1

I need to cancel my tranq like 20% of the time

[grizzled seal]

This is the moronic shit m+ mains have been doing since legion

It can absorb for 20 and you'd still play it without a single thought in your head

[gentle nova]

Why arent u getting spatial

Noob?

[rustic copper]

1 evoker

[grizzled seal]

Genuine question

[spark river]

Loom was absolutely broken

[grizzled seal]

Are you a moron

[spark river]

Its not remotely similar

lmao

[gentle nova]

Noobs

[rustic copper]

Ikr

[spark river]

Guys I have a question

A serious one

[grizzled seal]

One trinket absorbs more than half health on the target you choose

[late otter]

Comparing loom to litany is insane

[gentle nova]

Noob

[grizzled seal]

Another can go 5 times on a tank

[spark river]

Im looking at 298 trinkets

[grizzled seal]

M+ player: they are the same thing

Lmfao

[spark river]

And gaze seems absolutely disgusting

[gentle nova]

You glazing gaze?

[spark river]

I dont have it yet...

[grizzled seal]

I think I'm getting a spatial

Do you have a monk for i1?

[gentle nova]

Noob ?

[spark river]

But is weapon just superior at 298

[grizzled seal]

I have to carry the intermission or we die there

We play evoker paladin druid disc

[gentle nova]

Noobs

[willow furnace]

with wildstaker my convoke cd is longer right ? need to adjust reminders 😛 its 1min instead of 45sec or ?

[grizzled seal]

Couldn't be helped

[spark river]

yes its 1 min

[gentle nova]

2 minutes

[grizzled seal]

[gentle nova]

Noobs

[spark river]

i have tried it at 2 mins

but it just feels so long without a cd

idk

[gentle nova]

As if convoke was a real cd

[plain steeple]

Its not generally 45s with kotg though. It would only be 45s, if you didnt use it for 15s on your previous cooldown.

[gentle nova]

[grizzled seal]

2 min convoke lets me take a real sip of a drink

That 1 sec comes in clutch

[gentle nova]

Make tol 20% hps

[grizzled seal]

3 min tree can go hard on Lura

[gentle nova]

Sure

[spark river]

you can use both tree and tranq at the same time and then ask for a res in 3 minutes

[silk ice]

Wait till you learn about the straw tech

[grizzled seal]

I was thinking about delaying second convoke for tranq

???

Yes thanks for this genius contribution

[gentle nova]

I dont see this vision

Why

[grizzled seal]

Tree is bad as wildstalker and 3 min tree is worse

[gentle nova]

It casts at most 3 regrowths in 3 seconds

[grizzled seal]

Nobody could've figured this without you bro

[gentle nova]

Same as manually casting em

[grizzled seal]

Nah

I have some bangers in there

4 rejuv 4 regrowth 2 wg convoke

[gentle nova]

How many sm

[grizzled seal]

1

3 rejuv 3 regrowth 2 sm 2 wg

Idk I think it can't miss

That's a lot of buffs

[gentle nova]

But you lose one

Cast

[grizzled seal]

Let me see

I don't think I do?

I lose one in p3

Instead of doing 6 min and 8 min convokes you do 7 min and p4 somewhere

[gentle nova]

You can cast tranq 4 times?

[grizzled seal]

Yes

One tranq is in p4, idk how valuable healing there is

I think you can easily sac p4 tranq for a better timing in p3

P4 hps looks pretty real

So maybe this might be good

P3 actually looks the easiest to heal, especially as wildstalker

@rustic copper did you do p3 yet?

[gentle nova]

Is it really real

When 4 healers are doing 2x

[grizzled seal]

From what

[safe storm]

I think 3 min tree is pretty good on Lura…

[gentle nova]

Doesnt the crystal buff the dps and healers last phaae

[runic bramble]

very much cosmetic

[rustic copper]

We’ve failed the knock out of the middle twice

[rustic copper]

Do I just not tranq intermission

I could just not convoke or tranq it

[grizzled seal]

No wayb

[rustic copper]

That might be diabolical

[grizzled seal]

It's the highest hps part of the boss or

What are you gonna do

[rustic copper]

I rly think tranq sucks there though

I can’t cast it

[bright swift]

???

[rustic copper]

I can’t hit everyone

[bright swift]

do you not get spatial

[rustic copper]

No

[bright swift]

why not

[rustic copper]

We don’t have one

[runic bramble]

ask for one then?

[rustic copper]

And I have a crystal

[runic bramble]

u dont need time spirals

[rustic copper]

We have 1 evoker

[bright swift]

bro there's no way

[runic bramble]

ye fuck time spiral then

[grizzled seal]

Shaman and druid cover all the movement in p1

In i1 you don't move

P2 you move 10 yards

The fuck do you need spiral for

[rustic copper]

Don’t you need spiral to grip the adds

[bright swift]

crystal grips

[rustic copper]

And just in general for dps to do more dmg

[runic bramble]

use rescue

[grizzled seal]

Rescue?

[bright swift]

yeah rescue would work

[rustic copper]

1 rescue

[runic bramble]

2x grip+rescue on 2nd

[bright swift]

^

[runic bramble]

ignore first and ask your dps to move

[grizzled seal]

Priests can grip twice

[rustic copper]

We have 1 evoker 1 priest

[proven phoenix]

we use 2x rescue and 1 grip on 2nd

but ye anything works

[rustic copper]

How do they grip twice

[grizzled seal]

We have 2 priests in the comp so it's fine

[rustic copper]

I thought they need spiral to grip twice

[bright swift]

they have a talent that allows them to grip twice

[runic bramble]

u can double grip as oracle

[proven phoenix]

its called save the day

[rustic copper]

Is my priest even playing oracle

[runic bramble]

yes

[grizzled seal]

Yes

[proven phoenix]

probably

[rustic copper]

is that the good one

Ok

[grizzled seal]

Unless he is playing TWW?

[rustic copper]

I dont know man I just press buttons

[proven phoenix]

I've been convoking on crystal spawns but im going to use it earlier now because I want it up as soon as we enter intermission

[runic bramble]

im pretty sure you will have more wipes to intermission healing than whatever they gain on a time spiral

[proven phoenix]

I love when I get spatial and have range on everyone and as soon as spatial goes away all my frames just fade out

[next palm]

hello can some1 explain to me how this talent works?

[grizzled seal]

I started doing pre pull convoke for maximum hots

[rustic copper]

We don’t wipe to intermission healing

Everyone in my range is full hp the entire time

[proven phoenix]

im doing pull convoke as well now

[oak garnet]

You leave it at 0/1 and move on with your life

Play the game like before

[runic bramble]

ye but then u might wipe p2 cause u need to send a cd somewhere else

[oak garnet]

Don't get baited by what niche players do in 21s

[runic bramble]

we had 0 cds besides rdruid in intermission

[next palm]

its an interesting talent tho 😭

[rustic copper]

Your rdruid cd intermission?

I’m playing 2 min convoke

[runic bramble]

ye tranq intermission, but it was before the changes

[oak garnet]

Once you go 2 tv

[grizzled seal]

I assume he is the druid since we are in druid discord

[runic bramble]

with spacial

[oak garnet]

You never go back

[rustic copper]

Idk

[runic bramble]

no im a monk, i just wanted to check on dungeon healing haha

[main timber]

What's your question? It's a 15s buff that you can trigger once a minute

[grizzled seal]

Wtf

[plain steeple]

If you play 2min convoke, would you hold it for 3min to match it with every tranq? Have you done any maths on this?

[grizzled seal]

No, I am just thinking about it for Lura

[next palm]

ye but the part with 45 sec empower i dont understand

[main timber]

Ignore that part, it's an old tooltip

[grizzled seal]

Because with this one delay I lose one convoke in p3

[oak garnet]

Tooltip bug

[next palm]

ah lol

[grizzled seal]

And apparently p4 healing is a meme

[next palm]

ok

than its dog

[simple lark]

yo guys does any1 know which is the safest build for high m+ 18-21 is it the wildstalker healing with boomyweaving/catweaving dps or is it the keeper of the grove healing with boomyweaving dps

[runic bramble]

u have a giga amp, idk how much but if you check a public log u can see it goes from 10-20% overheal to 40%

[grizzled seal]

Ok fuck p4 then

[rustic copper]

Convoke start of i1 and on cd in p2?

[oak garnet]

I promise you it's ws with whatever dps you want probably caster @simple lark

[grizzled seal]

But what about p3

This also looks easy

[runic bramble]

p3 memory game is the trickiest part

[grizzled seal]

Just messy with movement so maybe that's hard

[simple lark]

oky ty

[runic bramble]

but that’s mainly cause people need to be 80%+

[grizzled seal]

What for?

[runic bramble]

clearing memory game

does an explosion

[grizzled seal]

To not die from constellations?

Ok sure

[gritty nova]

all you need to p4 is mana to fill your globals, raid dtps is 2.5x of any regular phase, so if you're down a healer you're going to feel that

[grizzled seal]

Doesn't look like it's doing that much and we are WS now

I assume your guy played keeper

[plain steeple]

Thanks. +14s on all hots by convoke seem quite valuable to me. But maybe also depends on the timers.

[runic bramble]

i was on druid+monk side in p3, and ye he was playing kotg

was very chill

[grizzled seal]

Yeah WS will do more than keeper on 10

[runic bramble]

i think disc is kinda ass in p3 if they are with you

[grizzled seal]

We aren't doing that

Our comp is druid disc evoker paladin

[runic bramble]

im pretty sure u will be chill anyway with rdruid

[silk ice]

No MW

[simple lark]

what's ur opinion as well torty WS for 18-21 keys with boomyweaving dps or keeper of the grove :d

[grizzled seal]

Also shouldn't disc be better in p3 now

[runic bramble]

it’s not the hardest hps requirement

it’s literally just living the last and first memory game that matters

[grizzled seal]

I don't play keys. I'd use better healing setup but really idk

[fiery tendon]

do you guys prefer verdant infusion, or double swiftmend in m+?

[simple lark]

kk ty

[grizzled seal]

Right, ok

Disc actually does a shit ton when their void shield procs

So if he gets two procs during memory game I'm pretty sure the entire group is gonna be full health

[runic bramble]

that’s good then, p3 is not hard to heal - i would not worry about cds for that if it fucks you somewhere else

[silk ice]

2 procs kinda rare since it’s a 3 card deck system

[rustic copper]

@grizzled seal When are you planning to drop crystal p3?

[grizzled seal]

Haven't planned that far yet

[rustic copper]

Ok

[grizzled seal]

I could just carry it all the way

[runic bramble]

could go last, then u don’t have to worry about doing the memory game

[grizzled seal]

Yeah that was my thinking too

[rustic copper]

I want to do last

I was assigned 2nd

[grizzled seal]

Not a big difference

[oak garnet]

Theres also a huge difference between an 18 and a 21

[rustic copper]

I don’t want to move

[grizzled seal]

Need to see how healing feels but p3 is nerfed a lot more than i1

So if it wasn't an issue then can't imagine it being harder now

[proven phoenix]

I need to work on not having 0 mana going into p2

[runic bramble]

idk if you have been there, but the roughest part is literally right at the start after the knock while grouping - after that it’s super chill

[grizzled seal]

We haven't even done p2 yet lol

We raid Thu/Sun/Mon

[spare sand]

Guys does spatial range buff affect range of tranq?

[grizzled seal]

Yes

[bright swift]

does it work on convoke

[proven phoenix]

think so

[snow mulch]

why is people playing with only 1 swiftmend cause i feel like 2 swiftmend better since it procs apex

[dapper fox]

is KOTG even worth tryin for pug 17+?

or wildstalker is safier?

[spark river]

you re going to play wildstalker

you dont want to shoot yourself in the foot in healing for some damage

[dapper fox]

right

[charred narwhal]

What's our nr1 dungeon to do for the bonus roll?

[fervent mica]

depends on what gear you've gotten already. but for baseline its npx

[chilly dawn]

Hello there.
Would it be a good idea in ur opinions to play Convoke 2min on Belo'ren MM ?

[peak charm]

For max bounty ?

[raw cobalt]

With this new upgrade coming, is any point not to keep the crafted weapon and replace it?

[storm elm]

It upgrades your created weapon

[raw cobalt]

And will be no better wep in whole game, right?

[fervent mica]

295 crafted vs 298 myth track

[rustic copper]

I saw a video of a disc getting spatial there

[fervent mica]

so its still worse in the long run

[rustic copper]

Assuming they evang?

Is spatial even up if you spatial start of i1

[grizzled seal]

No

3 min cd

[charred narwhal]

I have hero/myth gear with trinket being champ track

[runic bramble]

it might be? with chronowarden

we didnt do that tho - you can do the same without the paradox

atleast our priest managed to

[rustic copper]

Ok

[chilly dawn]

Hello there.
Would it be a good idea in ur opinions to play Convoke 2min on Belo'ren MM ?

[grizzled seal]

Uhhh

Actually no fucking clue mate

I don't know how you play that boss as a druid now

[chilly dawn]

Seems to fit the mecanics better than convoke 1min

[grizzled seal]

The problem is egg phase

[chilly dawn]

Yup just convoke on pull, then twice on egg

It seems to fit

Is ToL still playable since .5?

[grizzled seal]

Not as WS

I mean the spec was dogshit on beloren before

[runic bramble]

he is just popping evang right after the knock and sending a radiance into our side to top everyone right before severance

[chilly dawn]

Then i'll try Conv 2min

[grizzled seal]

Surely it can't get worse

[lament river]

Anyone here experienced with Northon Sky raid tools? If I need to set up healing cooldowns for our raid, can I find any pre‑made profiles? For example, we’re running with 2 resto druids, 1 shaman, and 1 holy priest. Or do I have to create them manually in Visero?

[grizzled seal]

You can check wcl for that setup if you want

It is probably gonna be some dogshit cds cuz the setup isn't meta

[spark river]

yeah setup is really weird

[lament river]

Yep i agree but unfo it is what it is

but ye i can tjeck WCL logs and see if anyone is using that combo

[rustic copper]

Private logged but I did rly good with 2 min convoke popping before pull and start of egg phases

It’s pretty strong

[chilly dawn]

Thanks a lot 🙂

[thorn plover]

Lorrgs.io let's you filter logs by specific comp

[craggy lily]

Do the new buffs really change our raid gameplay much? Or is it still basically the same, we 're just getting passive healing from apex talents now?

[tidal sigil]

Do we know when the 3.4k achi goes live?

[rustic olive]

Biggest is going WS and stacking hots on LB target.

[pallid knot]

Hey guys this probably got answered before but what you guys think it will be best ?

298 main staff + 2 arcanoweave Lining

or

298 dagger + 295 off-hand crafted hunt + 1 arcanoweave lining

[rustic copper]

We don’t even know if you can 295 an of offhand as far as I’ve been told

[craggy lily]

presumably this is just gonna be the tank?

[rustic copper]

You might need to get a 295 staff and offhands might be worthless

[pallid knot]

really ? hunt is really that good ?

[rustic olive]

I put it on myself so I can position myself to hit more people with effo

[pallid knot]

so 295 staff with hunt and arcanoweave ?

[rustic olive]

Tanks arent always in the best grouped position. Like on drags and shit

[dry valve]

I watched jdot do keys

He was spamming starfire

I tried it and

It’s not that troll

I cut out all the cat weaving talents and went full magic mode

[thorn plover]

We already knew that

[rustic copper]

I meant 298

[thorn plover]

Caster talents is the recommended build

[dim lava]

no moonfires applied? just sunfire and spam starfiree?

[fervent mica]

only sunfire in aoe when you have to move

starfire is just more damage

[vapid lily]

Do you play master shapeshifter for that? Presumably spamming starfire gets expensive

[thorn plover]

Yes

[fervent mica]

you do, but for the damage not mana

[thorn plover]

The mana part of it is nice tho

[vapid lily]

I tried it earlier without and definitely felt harder on mana than the usual cat weaving. Will try again later

[dry valve]

Yeah I’m keeping MS

Sorry but I no longer wanna sit and eat

Thank you for calling you can leave a voicemail

[thorn plover]

Casting more spells that cost mana makes you use more mana than using abilities that don't. Interesting 📝

[rapid halo]

can some one link the M+ dps post

I need to save it

and I don't remember who wrote it lol

nevermind i found it

[kindred moth]

mind linking it? :D

[lament river]

How can i excalty tjeck combos?

[rapid halo]

#resto message

@kindred moth

[kindred moth]

thanks!

[rapid halo]

[pulsar hill]

Any of you NA gamers recieved Voidcore refunds yet?

[vapid lily]

Mind boggling isn’t it

[thorn plover]

On the main page where it says "top reports by comp:" click it then type in the number or each type of healer and select a boss

[hardy canopy]

watching some top druids rn and they are still catweaving post patch

cus you know healer dmg is cosmetic

at the end of the day, play what you like

[lyric surge]

@proven phoenix @carmine glen Plant Alert! The lilys are starting to bloom

[graceful ermine]

Healer damage is for the healer's mental, not for any tangible reason

[proven phoenix]

its so pretty

good blooms

[frosty basalt]

do you form into moonkin to do dps or it's not needed ?

[mystic pasture]

Nope, you actively don’t want to do that

[graceful ermine]

I think they said fluid form is a small dps increase

so you will be in moonkin due to fluid form, but you never use a global on it

[mystic pasture]

I think it’s actually a loss because you could take the other Lycara’s and get 4% magic dam?

I could be wrong but it’s definitely super small either way

[graceful ermine]

Idk, I think the typical build doesn't spend a talent on the other lycara's

I just remember I think face mentioning that moonkin form is a 2% damage increase

[mystic pasture]

I could believe it, makes sense; the key point being you don’t ever need to press Moonkin form either way

[graceful ermine]

Yeah definitely don't bind moonkin form (unless you are doing flap tech)

[spring fractal]

Didn't moonkin form increase dmg done with spells before?

[mystic pasture]

It’s 10% iirc, the argument against Moonkin form being you lose your Haste buff from caster form Lycara, but that matters less in impacting your damage now because Starfire > Sunfire unless you’re moving and pressing a damage gcd

[spring fractal]

Oh it's still there even if you loose 2% dmg moonkin is 10%

Ok mastery in moonkin form is a bit of a meme tbf

[graceful ermine]

It's 10% damage increase, but you're losing haste (by virtue of the first lycara's talent) and potentially 4% spell damage due to the second. Also you're spending a global on it without fluid form, which is a massive loss (that global could have just been more damage in the first place)

Mastery does not increase your damage in resto spec

[formal path]

Question: about to start Lura prog and im our MW/RDruid and not sure which I should bring. Druid obviously does more healing than everyone on that fight and basically solos intermission, but monk is still very good throughput and a crystal monster. What are your guys’ thoughts?

[graceful ermine]

I will say I think it's, uh, questionable design that entering the damage form loses you a bunch of damage modifiers in exchange for non-damage modifiers

[dry valve]

Omg!!

That’s cute

When did you plant them?

[lyric surge]

mmm I think it was like mid february

[sudden rover]

has anyone found a way to change that horrible "3" that blizzard introduced after 12.0.5 pls? (native UI, no raidframes addon)

[thorny socket]

goes do you symbiotic relationsship on the tank in raid ?

or a dps

[outer meteor]

Are people switching to keeper for keys?

[spare sand]

https://tenor.com/view/bilizz-gif-16660729688486425416

[outer meteor]

I see

[graceful ermine]

Only play keeper if you don't care about your healing (you're doing keys below what challenges you)

If you're doing hard keys, don't play keeper

[outer meteor]

Just curious because I saw most of the high key people playing keeper.

I assume they just wanting more damage then

[mystic crater]

does more damage, yeah

[oak garnet]

Where did you see that?

[leaden fjord]

They've got the coordination and healing to sacrifice healing for dam in those cases

[outer meteor]

I just check the top of raider io every so often

[oak garnet]

And most are keeper?

[mystic crater]

yeah it's not for most people

[main timber]

It also does very good healing, it's all a bit awkward though and might get shot in the next few days due to bug fixes

[outer meteor]

Yea I assumed its a damage thing like prot pally playing crit wings

[mystic crater]

what voulk said is the most accurate

smile

[leaden fjord]

I feel like you often see healers pushing high keys optimizing for damage instead of minmaxing healing

[thorn plover]

Hope this is true. And maybe some cat buffs ♥️

[graceful ermine]

Cat buffs would be great

[pulsar kettle]

real

[main timber]

I think Starfire bug fixes are looking quite likely in my opinion

[pulsar kettle]

fix starfire bugs

buff cat

[jade lichen]

So is the ilvl increase to mythic items not coming for four weeks? I was under the impression it was happening this week but the forge thing seems like it will be 4 weeks

[graceful ermine]

What starfire bugs? Do you just mean the keeper proc or is there something else going on?

[main timber]

It also has a way higher splash mod than is intended

[graceful ermine]

ohh okay

[main timber]

None of these are that new, we reported them a month ago

[graceful ermine]

I heard some rumblings about that but wasn't sure how true/confirmed that was

[mental belfry]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/47?boss=12811&class=Druid&spec=Restoration&metric=dps

You can see some monster DPS logs put up by some KOTG's. If you can pass the heal check as KOTG over WS, You can play it.

[jade lichen]

also is it worth replacing crafted staff with mythic haste/mast staff from nexus? I would lose hunt and craft 2nd embellishment with arcanoweave

[graceful ermine]

I was wondering why doc was doing so much healing on big packs

[mental belfry]

As the timer becomes tighter on higher and higher keys and DPS matters more, the hero tree meta might change.

[main timber]

The Myth-track staff is better

[jade lichen]

ty for quick reply

[mental belfry]

But also prio damage matters and prob WS has better prio over non-elite pad.

[sudden rover]

can anyone help me with this pls? I'd like to move the "3" stacks in the bottom right like it used to be, how can I do that?

[foggy merlin]

hey guys. have any of you tried the caster version on M+?
I saw some videos about it, some people trying.
Are it equivalent to cat form on M+ or it loses much hps that is not viable?

[vivid peak]

i dont think you can

[sudden rover]

FUCK

[main timber]

It's good yeah, check the new guides since it's in all of them already

[sudden rover]

it's literally unplayable

[kindred moth]

do y'all think we'll go back to catweaving once/if starfire splash will be fixed?

[vivid peak]

add lb to your buff tracking :D

[foggy merlin]

you mean the wowhead or ther is any other?

[grand herald]

caster != kotg

the dps is separate from hps

[sudden rover]

I tried, it only tracks lifebloom when it's on me, on allies it does nothing. What a shit game lmao

[main timber]

Yes both wowhead and IV

[foggy merlin]

tks

[foggy merlin]

I know. my questions is if the dps it adds compensates the hps that it might lost?

[oak garnet]

Seeing how blizzard is busy fixing a bunch of other bugs maybe starfire cleave will stick around for a while 😐

[vivid peak]

works on my cdm

[main timber]

How you choose to deal damage has nothing to do with your healing

[grand herald]

you just dont switch anything that loses you hps

catweaving does not give you hps

[vivid peak]

did you add it here

[sudden rover]

ok yeah that works ty, but the pandemic sound/visual doesn't

[vivid peak]

that's true

[snow grove]

this would be kind of a funny bug if this patch wasn't so insanely buggy. stuck simultaneously in flight form and astral form

[sudden rover]

is this common for blizzard to release stuff with so many bugs?

last retail xpac I played was shadowlands so idk maybe it's rare

[grand herald]

not particularly no

theres always bugs

but this was fairly widespread and in a lot of major systems

[exotic pike]

Hey, should i just go Balance loot spec in keys? I already have max Emerald Coach's Whistle, so there is no other trinket i want, or what? 🙂

[gleaming spoke]

Balance loot spec! Yup.

[grand herald]

depends on the key, do whichever spec has the least items in the pool while having the item you want

for example, for heart of the wind, guardian is the best spec

[half owl]

So switching over more to Resto from HPal and disc, lifebloom on ourselves in raid? Do we do it on ourselves in M+? or is it more situational where tank is fine if it’s melee heavy group, me/caster if ranged heavy?

[grand herald]

lb on self in raid for sure

in M+ its usually on tank, or whoever is hurting

move as needed, but dont move too often

[exotic pike]

Ahh i see, youre right, thx!

[rigid mirage]

Anyone get the refund yet?

[solemn hinge]

in m+ and raid on who do we usually use symbiotic relationship? tanks?

or the squishiest target

[half owl]

Makes sense, appreciate it!

[cursive pagoda]

feels like lifebloom is broken in timewalking