#resto

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distant birch
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Wouldve been huge

boreal karma
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you get 1 extra roll for raid if you roll raid

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you have 1 extra item potentially

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and the ods

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the odds of getting a item you dont have are always higher

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3/4 to 1/4 yes its not knocked of yet

polar lichen
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you can't roll twice on the same mythic raid boss per week no matter how many tokens you have

boreal karma
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yes

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but you still have a total extra roll

midnight carbon
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How are you looking at incoming damage and casts together?

gentle nova
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and?roll another boss

flint void
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my guild killed mythic chimaerus this week before the bug was fixed, most of my guild got useless junk (to quote them), so most of them will only reach their guarenteed mythic alnseer a week after the people not affected.

boreal karma
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you get a free roll for another boss

midnight carbon
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Or is that a death log

boreal karma
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you still get a extra roll

distant birch
boreal karma
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in the worst case you get your trinket 1 week later

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in most cases you get your bis item earlier and get 1 extra roll

distant birch
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Oh guaranteed true, nvm me

sour flint
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What UI for raid frames do you guys use?

boreal karma
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there is so much more to roll then just 1 trinket

flint void
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the 2 people who got mythic alnseer during the bug are pogging, because they won the lottory.

so 16/18 players who rolled will have a possible downside of getting alnseer a week later than they could have, while 2 people have a upside.

boreal karma
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i can look at you gear and tell you 2 dungeons to roll and probably 2 bosses

weary tusk
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No point discussing more with this naenia guy 😂 have a nice day

gentle nova
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alnseer isnt the only item you want yk

boreal karma
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16 out of 18 people

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you

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have no clue

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how loot dropchance work

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must have a dent in the head

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ngl

boreal karma
gentle nova
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if you got a shit item with your bugged rolls from chimaerus then just start rolling on alleria

flint void
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not everyone gets to roll alleria

boreal karma
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i can tell you 2 dungeons to spend rolls on

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without seeing your gear

abstract tulip
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I would like a mythic neckless

boreal karma
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youre just stupid

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i cant say it any other way

weary tusk
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Imagine being in the wrong, and then starting with personal attacks. Oof

limpid jacinth
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this conversation is cringier than normal

flint void
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does not matter you dense ducker, regardless of rolling on dungeons now, the guarenteed alnseer in worst rng will be a week later than people unaffected

boreal karma
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yeah and the majority of people get it earlier

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thats all i said

waxen ingot
boreal karma
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or atleast get an extra item

waxen ingot
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Find a cat

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In this photo

flint void
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"getting lucky" is not included, because getting lucky week 1 will be Bis

boreal karma
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you still get an extra item

flint void
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no, because you will get a duplicate of it within the next 3 weeks

gentle nova
waxen ingot
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Istg i didnt put her here

tulip nexus
boreal karma
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xdddd

tough portal
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It's crazy style rn

flint void
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craaaazy, nice cat tho @waxen ingot

wary belfry
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Complain or else.

gentle nova
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what if i rolled belt from the bugged coins

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then next week i roll alnseer

boreal karma
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Let’s ignore this discussion alluneve is right 16/18 people will be unlucky

gentle nova
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so i just have belt + alnseer and 2 coins

flint void
boreal karma
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He has a master in % and drop chances

gentle nova
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because you will have 2 extra coins

flint void
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if you got handed alnseer without rerolls before this happened or rolled alnseer this week anyways, you got lucky and you get ahead because of luck

onyx trail
wary belfry
onyx trail
gentle nova
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idk the compensation is dumb

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give everyone 2 more rolls

smoky sail
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guys didnt learn from the classic. "Abuse early abuse often" pepeLa

flint void
limpid jacinth
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💦🛩️💦🛩️

distant birch
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I love blizzard

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Buff disc priest tho

wary belfry
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Buff disc

flint void
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buff everyone

gentle nova
flint void
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buff the raid bosses

wary belfry
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I just want to not be playing shield build

onyx trail
wary belfry
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Shield is cringe

gentle nova
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what is shield build

wary belfry
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Let me atonement like god intended

gentle nova
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void shield?

wary belfry
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Its just sending all the shield talents + oracle yes

smoky sail
wary belfry
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And void shield naturally

gentle nova
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you didnt know

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because

flint void
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i know some people who played disc since wrath who prefer the shield build cuz it reminds them of the glory days in ICC

gentle nova
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well you knew about the bug but that mean you shouldve held until fix

midnight carbon
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Nonetheless thanks everyone for the input

gentle nova
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not that you shouldve spent so you get compensations

distant birch
smoky sail
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yeah, i mean i mainly did my bonus rolls to see if it cooks my vault shrug

distant birch
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When u start 1-2 healing then disc will be bottom by 50k..

flint void
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Most people i know spend it during the bug because it was: "i'm rolling the dice as not to get duplicates now, i'll see when they fix it, i might be screwed, but it's either now on chimaerus or just sit on them doing fuck all"

distant birch
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Maybe 100

tough portal
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WHEN YOU START 1 HEALING DISC WILL BE BAD

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Is crazy

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Of a thing to say

distant birch
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Its true tho

bright swift
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nah you're wrong

distant birch
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But i might be crazy

polar lichen
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i got chest and haste/mastery ring (and boots) from nexus point so now i gotta debate if i use my rerolls on nexus point in the hopes of getting the staff or if i bail to avoid the risk of duplicates

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i hate when the game makes me think, i just wanna press my green buttons, and my one pink button

flint void
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skill expression matters in the game, if you take the bottom 1% performers you get too many boosters to make a good opinion

proven phoenix
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what

tough portal
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Who tf cares about what healer is best at 1-healing the fights in 2 months mate

distant birch
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Me

flint void
tough portal
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I'm getting so many newly noted profiles to disregard opinions from tonight

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@boreal karma was the first

flint void
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oh, 1-healer healing

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icic, yeah, don't look at those

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that's parse-whores in actions

distant birch
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Nah

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Thats where u can actually have fun on farm fr

flint void
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sure, it's fun on farm, but it's not indicative of actual prog performance

waxen ingot
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Its a mental state to enjoy farm in wow

flint void
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prog is fun

distant birch
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Farm is fun

flint void
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i like wiping

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i like progging

gentle nova
tough portal
flint void
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farm is ResidentSleeper

waxen ingot
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The 1st thing i do when i get the CE achivment

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is cancel sub into delete the game

proven phoenix
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farm is nice because its just a nice way to meet up with the gang

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chill reclears

flint void
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who gives a damn about CE achievement tbh, it;s the journey to CE that was the fun part

primal jungle
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telling your RL to take you off loot

gentle nova
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farm as a healer is boring as fuck

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at least dps is infinite

distant birch
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Thats why u 1 eal...

gentle nova
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healing farm with 18% buff

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omegalol

gentle nova
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why risk wiping on farm everyone just wants to kill all the shit in 2 hours and get out

flint void
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you just sleep through it and gobble up the loot for your offspecs to feel ilvl number go up good

distant birch
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Just dont wipe

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Heal homies

primal jungle
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i wanna reinstall just to do old quests tf is wrong w me

flint void
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well.... "just don't wipe" makes for quite some shit in your pants @distant birch kekw

gentle nova
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also like

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even prog healing is boring

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because we do too much healing

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and fights do no damage

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imagine in farm

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with 10 more ilvl and 16% more buff

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im dead

waxen ingot
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Every fight, every single finght outside of top 50 guilds, even loss probably

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is overhealed by 1 person

bright swift
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what are you even saying Mattiu

waxen ingot
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cause there is a spot in the fight where u need the extra healer for 30 seconds or w/e

gentle nova
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the only fight that does real damage is lura

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lol

bright swift
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ok I was about to say

flint void
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the most fun i have doing healing is having wowutils viserio cooldowns open and making a intricate web of cooldown assignments for myself to than see executed beautifully in-game and making it all come together.

once boss is dead it's like re-doing a solved puzzle with a step-by-step guide

distant birch
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Lura and paladins were pretty fun

bright swift
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Bird also did damage

gentle nova
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meh

bright swift
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this is our health in p2

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very scary

distant birch
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Bird was ass imo

gentle nova
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if it did it wouldve not been 3 healing

gentle nova
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thought about that

flint void
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Replace the D with H

gentle nova
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i was surprised at paladins

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its a shit ton of dps

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but you 5 heal

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lmao

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with no punishment

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nice game

flint void
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MW monk on paladins is weird, you play a vanilla-era healer with the playstyle

gentle nova
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kyveza the most fun fight in NP

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5 healed

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garf

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first blizz nerf to it 2 days after race started

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-10% max hp

distant birch
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Kyveza was really fun

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Lura is genuinely really fun fight tho imo

gentle nova
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it shouldve been tuned for 4 healers

distant birch
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By far the best this tier

gentle nova
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lura is fun to heal but is ass the amount of movement u need to do

distant birch
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Wouldve been more fun if i wasnt playing d tier healer spec tho...

gentle nova
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3days ago it was the bes thealler man

fallen birch
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Could someone please help me with some feedback?
Playing rdruid for the first time this season, while I feel I improved a lot since season started my parses are just terrible.
Feedback from wowanalyzer does point to few issues mostly lifebloom refreshes (definitely something to improve) and maybe positioning with it so that efflorescence touches more target but not sure that alone is difference between parsing 30 and parsing 80.
On paladins I ran out of mana for last minute so maybe not ideal but feel I played ok to then see 38 parse.
What would be the 1-3 items to focus on most in order to improve from this point?
https://wowanalyzer.com/report/D7MpBj3Twzbkrxqd/42-Mythic+Lightblinded+Vanguard+-+Kill+(7:54)/1-Shabark/standard/overview

bright swift
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We had our first p3 pull as the last pull of the night

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druid might be good

distant birch
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Disc bottom, 100 parse ggs

gentle nova
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press regrowth

bright swift
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I do...

gentle nova
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stop the sandbag

bright swift
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Ok you know I would beat all of those right

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last phase has an insane healing amp

distant birch
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Show p2 healing

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Do you guys struggle there or kinda chilling

bright swift
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It's a struggle but we're getting there

gentle nova
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how much niko will end at then

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250k

distant birch
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Yeah, that phase is kinda spicy ngl

bright swift
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just gotta burn my mana

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p3 is chill

distant birch
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If u wanna parse

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U need a healer to die last phase insta i think tettleslul

waxen ingot
distant birch
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But will be tight dps check then

waxen ingot
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did he ever post any logs / ss

bright swift
boreal karma
bright swift
gentle nova
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first p3

neat lintel
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Well my 16 run was going okay until jellyfish boss trash

bright swift
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is that you

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or

neat lintel
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Is it known to be spiky there?

gentle nova
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press rg

neat lintel
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I died over and over :/

wary belfry
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Uh I think some of the adds explode on death

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Idk i dont do keys

bright swift
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right add has massive healing absorbs on the tank

proven phoenix
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only the adds that the voidcaller summons

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they explode

boreal karma
bright swift
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left add has big aoe casts that you need cds for

gentle nova
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yeah

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2 wild growth a minute

neat lintel
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I dealt with absorb fine, died to explosion I think

waxen ingot
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did i see niko has 30cpm on regrowth

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AHHA?

proven phoenix
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theres a voidcaller on the leftt that does big aoe damage

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you need personals or cds forit

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he also summons adds that explode, sometimes coinciding with aoe damage

wary belfry
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Big mpoosher phased saving the day

waxen ingot
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is he clicking regrowth with 5 abundance stacks

neat lintel
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I think this is what happened

proven phoenix
neat lintel
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Something overlapped because it didn’t seem healable to me

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Maybe I could survive if I went bear tho

wary belfry
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Probably adds exploding on death with the aoe

neat lintel
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I never noticed when tanking lol

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I also died when I tried to enter barrier zone when I had circle on silence boss

proven phoenix
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you dont want to go bear on something like that

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wasting globals like that during heavy aoe damage is going to get someone killed

wary belfry
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Can't relate, I notice that crap as any role. Stuck with healer brain

neat lintel
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So I should barkskin and wg?

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Maybe convoke if available?

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Assuming already have lifebloom rolling

proven phoenix
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amz, dark etc if you have those are really good there

neat lintel
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oky thanks, will try to be extra careful on jelly trash from now on

atomic mantle
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weave

simple rivet
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myth Hearth would be worth to use bonus loot on it ? got myth gaze till now ribbon on myth is maybe far away for me

cunning atlas
weary tusk
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Liveliness: "Your healing over time effects heal 5% faster". I assume this has a positive synergi with Photosyntesis? So the periodic heals ticks faster, so higher likelihood of getting the bloom procs? Is that correctly understood?

gentle nova
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Yes

silver zenith
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Hey! maining a Holy Priest atm..

How much harder is resto druid?

I can see the druids are crushing the healing stats when im doing raids 😄

cursive pilot
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easy

pine coyote
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is this a joke???

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ive already rolled for mythic chim

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so next week i can get what i got this week again???

cursive pilot
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yes

candid peak
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guys, new character, got 2 crafts already, belt and wrists, would it be worth to craft weapon next? or is it useless because of the bonus rolls we get each week?
focus is on m+

pine coyote
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they are giving the rolls back BUT IT WAS MYTHIC

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I CANT DO IT TWICE

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omg

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i hate this company

cursive pilot
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But they also said they're giving compensation or something

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extra voidcore prob

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who knows at this point

pine coyote
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mail me mythic gaze

cunning atlas
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Giving them back is the compensation

pine coyote
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its not

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my hard pity was 4 weeks

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now its 5

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i cant do mythic chim twice

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because next week apparently i can get what i got this week again

zealous scarab
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Or you could get what you want on the next roll

cunning atlas
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I'm not trying to debate the definition of compensation, I'm saying that giving the cores back is the compensation they talked about

polar lichen
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just be lucky next week lol

bright swift
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are we really complaining that you got your coins back

pine coyote
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nono

spark river
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entitled people these days

pine coyote
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do you understand though

cursive pilot
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why cant u do raid again next week

bright swift
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no

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oh I see

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yeah sure

polar lichen
bright swift
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just coin NXP

polar lichen
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i got omission of light w/ avoidance and chest from nxp bonus rolls

pine coyote
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i already have mythic omission of light though

polar lichen
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on tuesday

pine coyote
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from vault

polar lichen
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i think i gotta pick another dungeon next

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or i gotta learn how to raid and pug mythic dreamrift? idk

cursive pilot
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mdream so easy, getting in pug the hardest part

tired gale
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you only get your coins back if you rolled before they fix it

cursive pilot
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yea

livid lodge
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Hi fellas im new typing here, I just want to know if the build of KOTG is much better than WS for high keys? I watch Jdotb but what do u think? Thanks all

simple rivet
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to coin windrunner is a good choice so i can get myth legs shoulder or heart? Or better options for me cant decide

livid lodge
waxen ingot
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but druid does so much hps

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And they are very competitive anyway

livid lodge
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Oh I get it. So overall WS build kinda always is good for high keys

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Thanks ThumbsUp

sly pivot
marsh prism
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no they don't like whiners

boreal karma
marsh prism
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I'm a little grumpy forgive me

sly pivot
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I’m confused, whining?

onyx trail
marsh prism
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actually I lied it depends on how funny your character name is

zealous hill
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I accidentally stayed in raid spec suring m+ keys, and it felt easier

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Am I tripping

marsh prism
gentle nova
velvet cloak
marsh prism
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i think everyone is just stocking up for the public holiday tomorrow

pine coyote
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i feel screwed overall

zealous hill
velvet cloak
limpid jacinth
pine coyote
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i would but gaze is the prio

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i dont even think about other items when i could be getting gaze

gentle nova
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Glaze

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Glizzy

marsh prism
limpid jacinth
limpid jacinth
velvet cloak
# pine coyote i would but gaze is the prio

Right, but you just gained a weeks worth of bonus rolls. Best case you get gaze from the 2 rolls next week, and you have just gained 2 extra rolls to spend on anything else. Worst case you get gaze a week "late" but you can spend the 2 extra rolls on moving up whatever else you would roll on another week

pine coyote
velvet cloak
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So instead of 4 weeks for gaze then start building pity on next item, you already build pity on the next item now

dense lantern
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Whops, wrong channel

pine coyote
velvet cloak
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I hate that saying

pine coyote
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yeah its all maths but i see a pattern as human and i say to myself, im cursed

velvet cloak
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The only way you lost anything from this compensation is if you would only ever bonus roll for gaze and literally nothing else

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If that's not the case you gained from it

pine coyote
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i dont have any other upgrade thats as big as gaze

tough portal
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🐽

pine coyote
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entitled ppl with gaze probably dont realize how much it affects their hps

silver zenith
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whats the best guide for resto druid? wowhead? icyveins?

limpid jacinth
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you’re crashing out

waxen ingot
pine coyote
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im spitting facts, ppl are salty that some ppl get their rolls back but i dont even want it back i just want the item i got this week from mythic dreamrift to be checked off the list so i have better chance of getting mythic gaze next week

limpid jacinth
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even their own sim has it as only 6-7k HPS over mythic HoW

uncut mica
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We still do decent numbers without gaze.

velvet cloak
tulip nexus
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ur just spitting ur own frustration

slender gust
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I haven't hit Mythic yet. Which dungeon are we bonus rolling? Nexus, MT?

velvet cloak
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Yeah worst case you get gaze a week later

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So what?

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What does that matter?

limpid jacinth
velvet cloak
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The worst case is outweighed by best or even average case meaning you have more bonus rolls

pine coyote
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are you a casual player?

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and do you have hero gaze

smoky sail
slender gust
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WS for trinkets was something I was considering b/c my second druid's trinket situation is DIRE

velvet cloak
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"Can I see your credentials please?"

simple rivet
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i will go for WS bc i got myth gaze and chest alrdy

pine coyote
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no im just asking if you classify yourself as being a casual player or if you push keys, raid mythic, etc.

velvet cloak
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I do raid mythic

simple rivet
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ya but crown is too far away

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for me

pine coyote
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do you have hero gaze?

thorn whale
onyx trail
velvet cloak
pine coyote
vivid peak
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Myth gaze is only 1% upgrade for me

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Nothing burger

limpid jacinth
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he’s going to get at least 100,000hps from it

pine coyote
simple rivet
velvet cloak
pine coyote
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omg

tough portal
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Crazy

velvet cloak
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Like legit, your healing numbers aren't going to magically go from shit to insane from a trinket

onyx trail
velvet cloak
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And if your numbers are already good, they're going from good to good

limpid jacinth
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It’s a sub-2% gain for me on QE and I have awful fucking trinkets

velvet cloak
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What a huge difference

pine coyote
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my healing numbers are already good, i just want it

velvet cloak
thorn whale
tough portal
pine coyote
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no

obtuse phoenix
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Hi guys ! Sorry for asking stupid question, maybe it was discussed here already, had a lot of work lately … sooo do we play Apex with LB on ourselves in raid ? And in M+ no chages in healing rotation and we do Boomies now for dmg ? Thanks 🍺

thorn whale
limpid jacinth
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hungry for gaze, they spelled it out

pine coyote
onyx trail
pine coyote
thorn whale
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That sounds pretty casual to me

onyx trail
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crazy thing to say man

tough portal
uncut mica
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Casual is subjective

tough portal
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This is why we should stay in #pvp

pine coyote
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im talking statistically

limpid jacinth
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anything less than 23s is casual tbh

simple rivet
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for bonus loot must itbe same key lvl so if i used at 10 cant used at 14 or maybe i got a dup?

thorn whale
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Damn you’re a maths guy

fervent mica
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you're on a class discord... you're automatically not casual

onyx trail
polar lichen
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if i'm not casual i have to confront the possibility i'm simply bad

upbeat kindle
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Hey
Do I understand correctly that we are now playing kotl (and elder druid tal) and damage in moonkin?
keys 15+
And why many rdru don't take fluid form? Are there any talents that take priority? m+

polar lichen
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i don't know if i'm prepared for that

obtuse phoenix
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Hi guys ! Sorry for asking stupid question, maybe it was discussed here already, had a lot of work lately … sooo do we play Apex with LB on ourselves in raid ? And in M+ no chages in healing rotation and we do Boomies now for dmg ? Thanks 🍺

thorn whale
limpid jacinth
obtuse phoenix
grizzled seal
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You have more useless items as a caster and then get them

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That's not being unlucky, that's poor planning

tough portal
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im talking statistically

pine coyote
grizzled seal
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I can't tell if you are trolling

limpid jacinth
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sounds like a skill issue tbh, always gotta plan for that bad luck

grizzled seal
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Why are you opening as balance or resto if you don't need caster weapons

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Surely you can make a logical connection that opening as a spec with less useless items will yield better results on average

pine coyote
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surely if i opened as feral i wouldnt get feral trinkets or a polearm

thorn whale
pine coyote
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what does that change i dont understand? you remove held in off hands, ok, but you add polearms, dps trinkets

thorn whale
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Okay champ

fervent mica
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go look at the number of items? its a much smaller pool on guardian/feral

thorn whale
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If there are more 2H, 1H and off handers in the pool than polearms and dps trinkets

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Does it increase or decrease your chances of getting a gaze

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Statistically speaking ofc

pine coyote
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if there are more, yes, then its a better option definitely

thorn whale
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So was that bad planning

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Or bad luck

upbeat kindle
pine coyote
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how many more do you think there is though?

thorn whale
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Idk right now since I’m not at my pc, but I know there is more?

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Which is the only thing that matters

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Doesn’t matter how many more

spark river
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i got 3 agility 2 handers as guardian

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was nice

thorn whale
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Skill issue

pine coyote
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donby has to be a master rage baiter

polar lichen
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are you going for any caster specific trinkets?

marsh prism
forest abyss
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how does your loot spec matter when opening vault or end of dungeon chest
just loot the item you need?? it's that simple.

tulip nexus
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true

grizzled seal
thorn whale
polar lichen
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they should add agi 1hs to the feral pool out of fairness

pine coyote
#

significance matters

thorn whale
#

It makes 0 sense to not open in feral if you want to maximize the chance of getting gaze

pine coyote
#

so for my gaze roll next week, my odds went from 33% to 25% again

#

thats a whopping 8%

marsh prism
#

...

thorn whale
#

You are special

#

Imma go back to studying

marsh prism
clever remnant
#

its always 50% either u get it or u dont Kappapa

velvet cloak
uncut mica
#

Are you still talking about gaze? 😭

pine coyote
plain steeple
#

You don’t want Gaze?

wise galleon
#

Should I be tracking tank power like dk runes?

velvet cloak
#

Apparently

onyx trail
#

ill take that myth gaze off ur hands

velvet cloak
#

Fully decked out in all mythic pieces

tough portal
velvet cloak
#

Only missing that darn Gaze

tough portal
#

🐽

onyx trail
tulip nexus
onyx trail
limpid jacinth
grizzled seal
forest abyss
grizzled seal
#

Nobody gives a fuck how unlucky you are with loot

thorn whale
#

Statistically someone might

pine coyote
#

XD

thorn whale
#

Odds are low

#

But they might

tulip nexus
#

hahahah

pine coyote
#

i would like to see the situation when youre on my end of the line, and it will happen

#

people have no emphaty nowadays huh

plain steeple
#

Torty has awful vaults every week.

thorn whale
#

I am exactly on your end of the line

plain steeple
#

Still not complaining.

#

That’s the game.

cursive pilot
#

Just remembered we’ll be playing overcooked in +16 and over next season

thorn whale
#

I got a myth belt and I have to roll again

pine coyote
#

i got screwed over because blizzard made a mistake, i get unlucky vaults as well, thats just luck though

#

one of my first messages was "my hard pity just went from 4 weeks to 5 weeks"

thorn whale
#

I cant

polar lichen
#

realistically how much fun i'm having in this game is 90% down to my friends' schedules and past a certain ilvl floor probably <1% down to my loot luck

velvet cloak
#

It's not a race to finish gearing first

tough portal
#

im talking statistically

onyx trail
limpid jacinth
thorn whale
#

@onyx trail

tough portal
#

He's showing off his big strong arms while playing restoration druid

pine coyote
#
  • casual is subjective
  • im talking statistically

thats a funny reply?

#

yes casual is subjective

lethal lichen
pine coyote
#

but statistically theres a range in which a player is considered "casual"

velvet cloak
#

No

onyx trail
#

whats the range let's hash it out

#

what we thinking chat

lethal lichen
#

we all casual bc we dont 0.1% shit or whatever /j

velvet cloak
#

Calling someone a casual is a meaningless word

pine coyote
#

wait did ppl get offended because being "casual" is something bad?

tough portal
neat lintel
#

Bro this resto chat is spicy

pine coyote
#

no way you can be that special of a snowflake

neat lintel
#

Bear channel is all chill

tulip nexus
#

dorq what even was your original argument

#

i was eating and cba to scroll a thousand messages

onyx trail
tough portal
velvet cloak
#

They called people a special snowflake, my spider sense is tingling

cursive pilot
#

Sweating for healer parse

tough portal
#

You've been crying about free gear for an hour

#

Who's a snowflake

marsh prism
#

sorry what the hell is occurring

lethal lichen
pine coyote
#

i rolled on myth dreamrift for gaze before bonus roll fix, i got another item, next week i have the chance to roll for it again and get the same item

tough portal
#

Yeah cry about it

onyx trail
pine coyote
#

they are refunding the roll currency but for myth raids it doesnt fix the issue

plain steeple
cursive pilot
wise galleon
neat lintel
#

When is the refund anyways?

wise galleon
#

also I dont know enough about how each tanks works to know what should I even understand based on their resource

onyx trail
pine coyote
neat lintel
#

Am I getting a refund too? Rolled on dreamrift mythic

velvet cloak
marsh prism
#

can you not, if you have enough currency for 2 rolls?

#

did they say you cant?

onyx trail
polar lichen
#

you can't roll twice in m+, would be surprised if you could in raid

marsh prism
#

i guess we'll see next week, cuz it is different for that reason

pine coyote
#

no if you killed a mythic boss that week youre instance locked you cant even enter the raid if instance id does not match or youre not fresh

marsh prism
#

i'm not stupid

#

i'm saying does it let you roll twice

velvet cloak
neat lintel
#

They should revert bonus roll completely, we don’t deserve it

velvet cloak
#

Is the point

polar lichen
wise galleon
marsh prism
#

next week would be the first time to know

wise galleon
marsh prism
#

unless they explicitly said something

#

ok so don't say no to me

wise galleon
#

on m+ you cant (i just did a dungeon)

marsh prism
#

i know you can't

wise galleon
#

so i dont get why on raid it should work

#

but yeah no evidence for raid

tulip nexus
marsh prism
#

because you can't just do a boss again that week like you can with m+ in the same day or next

tulip nexus
#

shit luck happens

marsh prism
#

it costs 2 so the first time we will find out is next week

polar lichen
#

if you had vault tokens saved up couldn't you find out this week

upbeat kindle
marsh prism
#

i dont know anyone i could ask

polar lichen
#

1 reroll currency for 6 tokens

marsh prism
#

idk im in a normal guild and if anyone told me they had 12 tokens for testing this exact thing out i'd kick them from my raid

thorn whale
#

Hahahaha

cursive pilot
#

Yeah…

#

Unless alt

tough portal
#

You have to spend your tokens before picking up on a new vault

wise galleon
#

Im a complete noob but is it even possible to create a macro that just spam uses wrath but casts starsurge if avaialble

polar lichen
#

theyre unique (12)

marsh prism
#

unless you held vault completely

cursive pilot
#

Says you can carry up to 12 coins

wise galleon
#

forced to press ctrl + 2 to cast starsurge VerySadCat

polar lichen
#

you really only need to hold 6 tho, like, you could have had 6 last week, buy nebulous void core this week before opening vault, take 6 more tokens, buy another one

forest abyss
#

they should take away all of your bonus rolls and loot and give them to me

polar lichen
#

i think i might have some tokens on an alt but i dont really care enough to take him through a raid, was just idly wondering

marsh prism
#

regardless of how special that guy is it is definitely something i'm curious about

#

banking to roll however many times

worn marsh
#

How much % haste are you guys aiming for in raid? Need to figure out if I have to change some gear around

marsh prism
worn marsh
marsh prism
#

i mean you cant just download more haste so

limpid jacinth
marsh prism
#

just whatever combo of haste/mast qelive top gear spits out for ya

#

ok

#

i would absolutely download haste.

worn marsh
#

Yess

clever remnant
#

sitting at 39% haste with flask.. i need moooore

hallow fractal
#

the wowhead recommended wildstalker build doesnt use rip and rake?

worn marsh
#

Need more haste yea to rapid fire all those regrowths

marsh prism
hallow fractal
#

oo so we cast for dps even without the crazy keeper shenanigans? cool

marsh prism
#

unfortunately

#

no moonkin form though, and still cat hotw

tulip nexus
#

speaking of haste, I crafted the engi boots without embellishment since they could be crafted with only 1 stat (so shit ton of haste) couple weeks ago - now i bonus rolled NPX bis chest, I already have a crafted chest - is it legit to use the bis chest and recraft boots to have an engi embellishment

#

i didnt realise engi items had separate embellishments back then, all i saw was haste

limpid jacinth
#

All engi embellishes are pretty shit (I love engi)

neat lintel
#

Why did you craft chest

hallow fractal
#

im sure its been asked before, but do we have a lifebloom cursor weakaura equivalent?

thorn whale
#

Cause crafting chest was good

thorn whale
thorn whale
#

Engi embellishment are not good

tulip nexus
rigid mirage
#

Do we know when they will refund the rerolls or is it just pure RNG before the end the week

thorn whale
#

If chest with embellishment + haste boots > 289 chest with engi booth

ancient spruce
#

What's the best dmg build in m+ atm? for like quick weekly keys

fallen birch
#

Could someone please help me with some feedback?
Playing rdruid for the first time this season, while I feel I improved a lot since season started my parses are just terrible.
Feedback from wowanalyzer does point to few issues mostly lifebloom refreshes (definitely something to improve) and maybe positioning with it so that efflorescence touches more target but not sure that alone is difference between parsing 30 and parsing 80.
On paladins I ran out of mana for last minute so maybe not ideal but feel I played ok to then see 38 parse.
What would be the 1-3 items to focus on most in order to improve from this point?
https://wowanalyzer.com/report/D7MpBj3Twzbkrxqd/42-Mythic+Lightblinded+Vanguard+-+Kill+(7:54)/1-Shabark/standard/overview

thorn whale
#

Send your log instead

tulip nexus
onyx trail
#

dire times

ancient spruce
#

Ye figured thanks

fallen dune
#

Isnt it better to dmg in moonkin rn?

oak garnet
#

I've been trying it in some 17/18 keys it's definitely viable but you trade higher pad damage and faster trash for worse hps and harder bossing. New apex can kind of carry though

tulip nexus
#

and yeah you use "boomie" spells but not the form itself

sly pivot
#

Anyone know rough % increase doing caster damage vs cat is now?

#

Not doc just wild stalker casting

kind star
#

what ilvl do I want to start pugging m0 for gear like 230 or?

tough portal
#

180

kind star
#

oh really ight well im 222, wasnt sure if id get invited.

#

ty

polar lichen
#

can always make your own groups

sly pivot
kind star
#

yeah im just abit out of the loop havent played retail since armidrassil

broken socket
#

Thanks for the comments, I've reading your discussion with some other mates about Prosperity stacks and the RJ/RG cycle and I think I'm a tiny better healer now!
Just to double check I got it right, looks to me that you are spreading rj during low damage window, and spamming rg when healing needs to be done? That and SOTF keeps the Prosperity cycle without having to manually watch it (as I have been doing)

royal karma
#

Is Mw monk taking resto as top healer? o.O

tough portal
#

Just list your own group

urban kestrel
#

222 is fine, anyone doing that stuff is desperate to fill a group atm because 10s are so undertuned

kind star
#

ill have my friends helping out at some point I just wanted to do some of the work myself

urban kestrel
#

people were level capping and doing those in sub-200 gear across the grp

kind star
#

forgot how easy m0 could be ig :3

#

I just like to worry myself for nothing, got a decent comprehension of resto from lurkin here anyways.

urban kestrel
#

some of the new stuff they added to gear up might just be more efficient than m0s though like the void assaults or just delves?

#

idk they added like 5 world events that all give champ track gear I think

tough portal
#

If it works

#

I flew to a void incursion spot last night and couldnt figure out wtf the content is

#

There's just nothing?! Idk

kind star
#

I did like the world tour and abunch of wq,weekly, got like 4 sparks and crafted a 2h weapon for now.

dense lantern
#

hello im looking for someone that has 10 free mins and wants to give me a help with dreamgrove's planner so if u feel like you know the class and want to help please dm me xoxo

tough portal
urban kestrel
#

void assaults I think are like those end of xpac thigns where you fly around and poop on some mobs and they give currency and that gives gear or something?

#

it definitely kinda felt like nothing

urban kestrel
kind star
dense lantern
#

i'll dm

kind star
#

felt so overwhelmed trying to figure everything as fresh 90 yday so I forgot some stuff

tough portal
#

Yeah

thorn whale
#

As long as it’s not prosp patch 12.0 propaganda I’m down

tough portal
#

You pick up a quest, kill 3 raid bosses on LFR or do delves or dungeons etc

#

Do it 6x over

kind star
#

guild might host a normal raid for the freshies ig I could do that

#

missed my retail druid :3 was fate that 2 of my guilds died in mop!

tough portal
#

You casted 8 Regrowths for your first 36 (+12 from SOTF) Rejuvs

fallen birch
tough portal
#

Sure, especially if you arent ramping with purpose into a Tranq or something

#

It's your mana knob

#

Abundance

#

Ramp up for whatever event you're trying to cover or just to 12 stacks otherwise
Cast Regrowth until your stacks dwindle low, like 6-8 stacks

vivid peak
tough portal
#

It isnt the end of the world to send some Swiftmends on spothealing someone in a dire situation but yeah it should be large majority on the LB target (yourself here) and extending 2x Rejuvs too. You should have 100% uptime on LB Reju Germ

fallen birch
#

That's good, thank you. Should also help with my mana if fix that problem.

dense lantern
#

@tough portal did specific refo cdr / tol numbers change since tww?

vestal igloo
grizzled seal
#

We have cdr on SM and WG in keeper

#

Also cdr on WG in 4p

#

And treants spawn from those, not from the spell

#

So we just have a lot more cdr on tree

dense lantern
#

ye right

grizzled seal
#

You can easily do 10 cpm of both now

vestal igloo
grizzled seal
#

So under 1:30 isn't hard to do

dense lantern
#

this sounds ass to implement

grizzled seal
#

Yes

thorn whale
tough portal
#

I dont have any

grizzled seal
#

Planning it is basically impossible

dense lantern
#

no one will be planning their sm

#

ye

#

unforch

grizzled seal
#

You can't plan SM

#

It has varied cdr

dense lantern
#

yeye

vestal igloo
#

I was gonna say

thorn whale
#

Go look up Torty on Warcraftlogs

vestal igloo
#

This aint WS

grizzled seal
#

Looooool

dense lantern
#

that is easy

thorn whale
dense lantern
#

i created the planner on dg exactly for that reason alone

#

kek

thorn whale
#

And RG more

#

So you can still look at those logs

dense lantern
#

but yeah didnt consider the sm changes

#

that makes it pointless to even update the tool kinda

vestal igloo
#

nvm

thorn whale
#

There is no magic fix

vestal igloo
#

Im slightly rtarded got it

tough portal
#

I think they just wanted help navigating the site

thorn whale
#

Ah

#

Yeah that makes sense

#

Glad you found it then

vestal igloo
#

Gotcha, I tend to forget to press regrowth but also I do hate raiding also resto druid

thorn whale
#

RG is our biggest healing button

spare maple
#

Mythic staff from nexus point is better than crafted staff + second embellishment?

thorn whale
#

So yeah it’s pretty important

thorn whale
spare maple
#

Lovely, tnx!

vestal igloo
#

I know, I just watch abundance stacks too much and then forget the spell exists, its just rtarded

#

I made the char for m+

#

Ended up needing to heal for casuals

thorn whale
#

Resto Druid is definitely two different healers in m+ and raid

vestal igloo
#

yea 100%

#

Its not that I suck at it

fiery tendon
#

In m+, damage wise, is it now worth taking boomy form and sunfiring, moonfiring and lunar striking on aoe? Or just stick with cat weaving bleeds in?

vestal igloo
#

completely

#

I came from rsham and mw monk

#

For yearsssssssssssssssssssss

kind star
#

never raided on rdudu either always just did M+, was playing rsham/evoker in raid.

thorn whale
#

Last tier rsham kinda is like rdruid

#

But just way more forgiving to play shaman

vestal igloo
#

Rsham was fun with cburst

#

Optimize it

#

And send huge numbers

#

I have issues with finding something where I can see that for example big damage is incoming in 15/20 seconds so I can ramp up

#

So now im spamming rejuv like a moron

#

and then pray to god I get something to regrowth

thorn whale
#

You’re thinking about it wrong - We’re not really ramping like that

oak garnet
#

Rejuv ramp legit takes like 8s

tough portal
#

Just think less in terms of ramping for a burst cd and more just cycling between 2 modes

thorn whale
#

^what face said

vestal igloo
#

My head is just pointed so hard at 'I need 12 stacks else I cant press RG"

#

Its annoying af

tough portal
broken socket
#

Does QE Live change embellishments if needed? IE I have crafted weapon, but got NXP myth weapon. Would QE tell me if swapping weapons and adding a second arcanoweave is better?

dim pike
#

Still having issues with something in grid2, hoping one of the squad can enlighten me. When the patch dropped, my unit frames are suddenly showing the "dispellable debuff color" despite it not being checked in the default blizzard options. In grid2, I don't see that i've changed any setting; nonetheless, magic debuffs are still highlighted blue, poison as green, etc. Anyone having a similar issue?

oak garnet
#

Has anyone been dropping to 2m convoke for 2/2 tv. That shit feels so nice to have for nb

vestal igloo
spark river
#

not worth it imo

#

i have tried both and liked 1 tv more

tough portal
broken socket
limpid jacinth
#

(I know your pin says boomie Convoke is zzzzz)

grizzled seal
tough portal
vestal igloo
tough portal
#

It's piss

limpid jacinth
#

OK. That’s (boomie in ST) what I’ve been doing but haven’t mathed it out. Thanks.

bright swift
#

photo is too valueable

tough portal
#

Thats just from last patch

#

Chill

bright swift
#

oh

thorn whale
#

I would not play this talent tree rn

vestal igloo
#

What I also feel is that with the morons I play with is that I literally dont have time to press wrath in most situations

#

Better just go liveliness?

thorn whale
#

You never wrath - You always hotw + rip

#

If you play MS

vestal igloo
#

For mana regen

#

In raid

thorn whale
#

Or, that is your goto mana regen 99% of the time

#

Yes

#

For mana regen in raid

vestal igloo
#

hotw rip for mana regen?

#

Never heard of that tip before

thorn whale
#

Welcome to 2026

vestal igloo
#

Welcome to resto druid basically

grizzled seal
#

We used rip for mana since undermine

vestal igloo
#

ngl

#

I NEVER read the last part

#

hahaha im so fkn stupid

#

I didnt even see rip regenned mana

grizzled seal
#

Nah it's ok, it's a lot of weird interactions

#

The current spec is a result of an amalgamation of 20 different talents synergizing in a specific way

vestal igloo
#

100% the one you have to work the hardest for a bit of hps

kind star
#

felt so weird the first day as I didnt really touch rdudu since huh early df

thorn plover
#

Gm

bright swift
#

Gm

vestal igloo
#

gmgm

kind star
#

goood mornin'

fiery tendon
wise galleon
#

Anyone know if its possible on grid2 to show just tank's power? Should that be power or alt power?

#

For resources like runes or rage etc

kind star
#

shouldnt have rake/rip in m+ talent anyways

onyx trail
fiery tendon
#

(in m+)

kind star
uncut hedge
#

But for mana right?

fiery tendon
#

i see, thanks 🙂

uncut hedge
#

Can’t u generate mana with it somehow or did that someone say just for when I do dmg I regenerate mana

#

Like the normal regenerate rate

kind star
#

both plays with, thats the mana ur probably talking of.

uncut hedge
#

Ah ok

#

But mana wise

#

Just by reading it boomkin should generate more

#

Then cat with 5 combo points cause get the 5 points first lol

kind star
#

from what I know tho mana aint really an issue, at least for m+. Think only priest struggle with mana mostly.

waxen ingot
#

the one that matters

#

is still fine and competitive

#

but fake pad dmg is much better on boomking

thorn whale
#

Lexa with good takes today

fiery tendon
#

I also feel i always need the double swiftmend to proc more sotf & lifebloom blooms (which i swap around a lot on targets taking damage) is that a proper play? or is verdant infusion much more viable?

kind star
#

caster also more accessible imo for less experienced druid players.

waxen ingot
kind star
#

I just hate how long it takes to cast a starfire

fleet jewel
#

Garf china has been doing a lot of keys as bird now

waxen ingot
fleet jewel
uncut hedge
waxen ingot
#

There are a good ammount of packs that have 0 prio mobs

#

and doing 100k dps as boomie in those

#

surely shaves of a few seconds of a key

uncut hedge
#

Minutes

waxen ingot
#

no

uncut hedge
#

At least 1 u can handle out

#

If u consistently so dmg

waxen ingot
#

No

uncut hedge
#

Do

#

😂 how abt yes

waxen ingot
#

ok idc tbh

grizzled seal
#

He is not comparing 100 to 0

waxen ingot
#

you time keys with 4 minutes left

grizzled seal
#

He is comparing 100 to alternatives

#

Just cuz you do 100k now doesn't mean you would be doing 0 otherwise, you know

fleet jewel
#

Deadge r1 MC, they are moving on from cat chatting

#

Lota was saying its still worse hps for hard checks last night though GlorpDetective

bright swift
#

moonkin form garf

grizzled seal
kind star
#

for m+ or raids yall use any kind of addon or is the game's boss ability bar thingy fine?

boreal karma
thorn whale
#

More globals to do same ST damage

#

But talent wise it should be same

boreal karma
#

Worse hps for hardchecks doesn’t Sound like a Boss where you would dps a lot eitherway

thorn whale
#

Nah but you can still hotw rip

fleet jewel
boreal karma
#

Agreed on that

hasty karma
#

Aren't you struggling with mana on 17+?

boreal karma
#

Nah

pulsar hill
#

Anyone know if they nerfed gathering speed in the .5 patch? Feel like my dudu is picking up flowers much slower.

boreal karma
#

And with doc you heal and get mana on quite a few packs

hasty karma
bright swift
#

why

boreal karma
hasty karma
#

Because I thought that 5% heal on hots was worth

#

I will give MS a try

#

Thanks!

pulsar hill
subtle cobalt
#

agreed

grizzled seal
#

Wait they are refunding coins

#

This cannot be real

haughty ibex
hard loom
#

Rofl dead

kindred moth
#

why would i not use fluid form when doing caster dmg? i dont get it, is it not worth? going by talent trees on icy and wowhead

slow smelt
#

Tbh I think for healing heavy dungeons you still go livelines

#

I might be wrong dont take me for a preacher

grizzled seal
#

6% multiplicative haste and 4% magic dmg is better than 10% spell damage

pulsar hill
#

Do we play boomkin / sunfire though as caster dps?

#

Is boomkin worth it for Heart?

grizzled seal
#

Starfire is bugged and does a shit ton

#

Just cast Starfires until it's fixed

pulsar hill
#

Starfire starfire

grizzled seal
#

You press Sunfire while moving

#

And you convoke for healing

#

Convoke does less dmg than Starfire xD

#

Because it doesn't cast it

kindred moth
#

thrash worth while moving?

pulsar hill
#

sure but what is bugged?

grizzled seal
#

Cleave dmg and instant cast stacks

pulsar hill
#

Oh I see what you mean

grizzled seal
#

It does double the cleave

#

On 6 mobs right now you do like 40% more dmg than you should be doing with starfire

pulsar hill
#

That should be permanent ;<

#

;>

grizzled seal
#

And the more mobs the more dmg you get from this bug

idle lake
#

just saw someone running this in m+ how bad is it

grizzled seal
#

Not picking photo is criminaln

#

Reforestation is poop in dungeons

#

Otherwise looks very vanilla

#

Can also drop hibernate for starsurge imo

#

But that's whatever, maybe they need hibernate in some places

idle lake
#

I see

#

thanks

spark river
#

only playing keeper with doc

idle lake
#

is skipping moonkin form and sunfire optimal or is there nowhere else to put the points

grizzled seal
#

Moonkin form is a useless talent

#

Sunfire does less dmg than starfire

#

You only use it for movement

pulsar hill
#

Think I would rather cast a single rejuv on anyone than cast sunfire then

grizzled seal
#

Yeah that's fair

idle lake
#

yea thats what im thinking

grizzled seal
#

Which I guess why they dropped it

wise galleon
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we cant reach starlight conduit without it, no?

idle lake
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hes taking the astral reach

fading cairn
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keeper is just doing weird things dps-wise right now. he's jdotb in a +20 MT

idle lake
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whatever its called

wise galleon
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taking hibernate

fading cairn
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wildstalkers maxing out dps around 20k, keepers hitting 40-50k

pulsar hill
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What you running for keepers?

grizzled seal
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If you press scroll button on your device once you will find I described the bugs

idle lake
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weird bug

wise galleon
thorn plover
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Crazy how this place went from "I'm a healer why do I need to DPS" to taking shit talents to do an extra 10k dps

pulsar hill
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I failed a 17 with 2 seconds

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I aint skimping on damage again

wise galleon
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Im once again asking if someone knows how to specifically show only on the tank their resources/power with grid2, I find dk in M+ disgustingly hard to understand

idle lake
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in m+ whats the difference between 2 swiftmends vs extending hots

dense lantern
thorn plover
dense lantern
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and you get an extra point if you do that

dense lantern
wise galleon
pulsar hill
dense lantern
wise galleon
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yes

limpid jacinth
dense lantern
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prosp gives you more flexibility

thorn plover
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Saving gcds is important when you have 23 cancelled Starfire casts in a dungeon

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😂

silent onyx
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sounds like a lot

dense lantern
silent onyx
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i never press starfire x)

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is playing boomie better than feral when it comes to dpsing as resto since patch?