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you get 1 extra roll for raid if you roll raid
you have 1 extra item potentially
and the ods
the odds of getting a item you dont have are always higher
3/4 to 1/4 yes its not knocked of yet
you can't roll twice on the same mythic raid boss per week no matter how many tokens you have
How are you looking at incoming damage and casts together?
and?roll another boss
my guild killed mythic chimaerus this week before the bug was fixed, most of my guild got useless junk (to quote them), so most of them will only reach their guarenteed mythic alnseer a week after the people not affected.
you get a free roll for another boss
Or is that a death log
start rolling another boss
do you decide to not spend that roll then or let it sit afk in your bags
you still get a extra roll
Not most, its not like everyone will get it on last roll
in the worst case you get your trinket 1 week later
in most cases you get your bis item earlier and get 1 extra roll
Oh guaranteed true, nvm me
What UI for raid frames do you guys use?
there is so much more to roll then just 1 trinket
the 2 people who got mythic alnseer during the bug are pogging, because they won the lottory.
so 16/18 players who rolled will have a possible downside of getting alnseer a week later than they could have, while 2 people have a upside.
i can look at you gear and tell you 2 dungeons to roll and probably 2 bosses
No point discussing more with this naenia guy 😂 have a nice day
alnseer isnt the only item you want yk
16 out of 18 people
you
have no clue
how loot dropchance work
must have a dent in the head
ngl
yea i will stop now
if you got a shit item with your bugged rolls from chimaerus then just start rolling on alleria
not everyone gets to roll alleria
I would like a mythic neckless
Imagine being in the wrong, and then starting with personal attacks. Oof
this conversation is cringier than normal
does not matter you dense ducker, regardless of rolling on dungeons now, the guarenteed alnseer in worst rng will be a week later than people unaffected
or atleast get an extra item
"getting lucky" is not included, because getting lucky week 1 will be Bis
you still get an extra item
no, because you will get a duplicate of it within the next 3 weeks
its in the black blanket
you cannot be real
xdddd
It's crazy style rn
craaaazy, nice cat tho @waxen ingot
Complain or else.
Let’s ignore this discussion alluneve is right 16/18 people will be unlucky
so i just have belt + alnseer and 2 coins
than you got lucky next week
He has a master in % and drop chances
and you are ahead of everyone that didnt roll bugged coins
because you will have 2 extra coins
if you got handed alnseer without rerolls before this happened or rolled alnseer this week anyways, you got lucky and you get ahead because of luck
complaining about having to complain
Im contemplating if I should complain about the complaining complaints

complainception 
guys didnt learn from the classic. "Abuse early abuse often" 
only if you DROP TABLE DUPLICATE ITEMS OBTAINED;
💦🛩️💦🛩️
Its great
I love blizzard
Buff disc priest tho
Buff disc
buff everyone
how would you have known that abusing a bad bug for you was gonna be good
buff the raid bosses
I just want to not be playing shield build
Shield is cringe
what is shield build
Let me atonement like god intended
void shield?
Its just sending all the shield talents + oracle yes
i mean EU knew since we had NA Beta testers already discover the bug
And void shield naturally
i know some people who played disc since wrath who prefer the shield build cuz it reminds them of the glory days in ICC
well you knew about the bug but that mean you shouldve held until fix
Nonetheless thanks everyone for the input
not that you shouldve spent so you get compensations
Bosses dont do dam tho so shields carry
yeah, i mean i mainly did my bonus rolls to see if it cooks my vault 
When u start 1-2 healing then disc will be bottom by 50k..
Most people i know spend it during the bug because it was: "i'm rolling the dice as not to get duplicates now, i'll see when they fix it, i might be screwed, but it's either now on chimaerus or just sit on them doing fuck all"
Maybe 100
Its true tho
nah you're wrong
But i might be crazy
i got chest and haste/mastery ring (and boots) from nexus point so now i gotta debate if i use my rerolls on nexus point in the hopes of getting the staff or if i bail to avoid the risk of duplicates
i hate when the game makes me think, i just wanna press my green buttons, and my one pink button
skill expression matters in the game, if you take the bottom 1% performers you get too many boosters to make a good opinion
what
Who tf cares about what healer is best at 1-healing the fights in 2 months mate
Me
personally? with those 2 pulls out of NPX this week without bonus rolls, move on, getting them again is useless for your account and you got the 2 best items out of there
I'm getting so many newly noted profiles to disregard opinions from tonight
@boreal karma was the first
oh, 1-healer healing
icic, yeah, don't look at those
that's parse-whores in actions
sure, it's fun on farm, but it's not indicative of actual prog performance
Its a mental state to enjoy farm in wow
prog is fun
Farm is fun
wrong
I'm more of a bidet guy but you do you mate
farm is 
who gives a damn about CE achievement tbh, it;s the journey to CE that was the fun part
telling your RL to take you off loot
Thats why u 1 eal...
no one wants to do that
why risk wiping on farm everyone just wants to kill all the shit in 2 hours and get out
you just sleep through it and gobble up the loot for your offspecs to feel ilvl number go up good
i wanna reinstall just to do old quests tf is wrong w me
well.... "just don't wipe" makes for quite some shit in your pants @distant birch 
also like
even prog healing is boring
because we do too much healing
and fights do no damage
imagine in farm
with 10 more ilvl and 16% more buff
im dead
Every fight, every single finght outside of top 50 guilds, even loss probably
is overhealed by 1 person
what are you even saying Mattiu
cause there is a spot in the fight where u need the extra healer for 30 seconds or w/e
ok I was about to say
the most fun i have doing healing is having wowutils viserio cooldowns open and making a intricate web of cooldown assignments for myself to than see executed beautifully in-game and making it all come together.
once boss is dead it's like re-doing a solved puzzle with a step-by-step guide
Lura and paladins were pretty fun
Bird also did damage
meh
Bird was ass imo
if it did it wouldve not been 3 healing
thought about that
Replace the D with H
i was surprised at paladins
its a shit ton of dps
but you 5 heal
lmao
with no punishment
nice game
MW monk on paladins is weird, you play a vanilla-era healer with the playstyle
kyveza the most fun fight in NP
5 healed
garf
first blizz nerf to it 2 days after race started
-10% max hp
it shouldve been tuned for 4 healers
By far the best this tier
lura is fun to heal but is ass the amount of movement u need to do
Wouldve been more fun if i wasnt playing d tier healer spec tho...
3days ago it was the bes thealler man
Could someone please help me with some feedback?
Playing rdruid for the first time this season, while I feel I improved a lot since season started my parses are just terrible.
Feedback from wowanalyzer does point to few issues mostly lifebloom refreshes (definitely something to improve) and maybe positioning with it so that efflorescence touches more target but not sure that alone is difference between parsing 30 and parsing 80.
On paladins I ran out of mana for last minute so maybe not ideal but feel I played ok to then see 38 parse.
What would be the 1-3 items to focus on most in order to improve from this point?
https://wowanalyzer.com/report/D7MpBj3Twzbkrxqd/42-Mythic+Lightblinded+Vanguard+-+Kill+(7:54)/1-Shabark/standard/overview
Disc bottom, 100 parse ggs
press regrowth
Yeah, that phase is kinda spicy ngl
i would really like to see Nikos legendary numbers people talk about here
But will be tight dps check then
did he ever post any logs / ss
he posts em

Well my 16 run was going okay until jellyfish boss trash
Is it known to be spiky there?
I died over and over :/
right add has massive healing absorbs on the tank
Is that the legendary regrowth build
left add has big aoe casts that you need cds for
I dealt with absorb fine, died to explosion I think
theres a voidcaller on the leftt that does big aoe damage
you need personals or cds forit
he also summons adds that explode, sometimes coinciding with aoe damage
Big mpoosher phased saving the day
is he clicking regrowth with 5 abundance stacks
I think this is what happened
yeah....
Something overlapped because it didn’t seem healable to me
Maybe I could survive if I went bear tho
Probably adds exploding on death with the aoe
I never noticed when tanking lol
I also died when I tried to enter barrier zone when I had circle on silence boss
you dont want to go bear on something like that
wasting globals like that during heavy aoe damage is going to get someone killed
Can't relate, I notice that crap as any role. Stuck with healer brain
So I should barkskin and wg?
Maybe convoke if available?
Assuming already have lifebloom rolling
yes you need cds and personals
amz, dark etc if you have those are really good there
oky thanks, will try to be extra careful on jelly trash from now on
weave
myth Hearth would be worth to use bonus loot on it ? got myth gaze till now ribbon on myth is maybe far away for me
Did you go in too early? You see a ground effect, then he slams it for a gazillion damage, and only after the slam it's actually a suppresion zone
Liveliness: "Your healing over time effects heal 5% faster". I assume this has a positive synergi with Photosyntesis? So the periodic heals ticks faster, so higher likelihood of getting the bloom procs? Is that correctly understood?
Yes
maybe yeah
Hey! maining a Holy Priest atm..
How much harder is resto druid?
I can see the druids are crushing the healing stats when im doing raids 😄
easy
is this a joke???
ive already rolled for mythic chim
so next week i can get what i got this week again???
yes
guys, new character, got 2 crafts already, belt and wrists, would it be worth to craft weapon next? or is it useless because of the bonus rolls we get each week?
focus is on m+
they are giving the rolls back BUT IT WAS MYTHIC
I CANT DO IT TWICE
omg
i hate this company
But they also said they're giving compensation or something
extra voidcore prob
who knows at this point
mail me mythic gaze
Giving them back is the compensation
its not
my hard pity was 4 weeks
now its 5
i cant do mythic chim twice
because next week apparently i can get what i got this week again
Or you could get what you want on the next roll
I'm not trying to debate the definition of compensation, I'm saying that giving the cores back is the compensation they talked about
just be lucky next week lol
are we really complaining that you got your coins back
nono
entitled people these days
do you understand though
why cant u do raid again next week
we just had a huge stupid argument about it earlier ;_;
just coin NXP
i got omission of light w/ avoidance and chest from nxp bonus rolls
i already have mythic omission of light though
on tuesday
from vault
i think i gotta pick another dungeon next
or i gotta learn how to raid and pug mythic dreamrift? idk
mdream so easy, getting in pug the hardest part
you only get your coins back if you rolled before they fix it
yea
Hi fellas im new typing here, I just want to know if the build of KOTG is much better than WS for high keys? I watch Jdotb but what do u think? Thanks all
Its worse
for healing
to coin windrunner is a good choice so i can get myth legs shoulder or heart? Or better options for me cant decide
Do u mean kotg have less hps but high damage? Or ws have better hps and low damage? Kinda?
WS is higher hps
but druid does so much hps
And they are very competitive anyway
If I get like 280 ilvl, 3k io and 9/9 with decent logs you reckon pugs will invite or even then nah
no they don't like whiners
Savage
I'm a little grumpy forgive me
I’m confused, whining?

actually I lied it depends on how funny your character name is
I accidentally stayed in raid spec suring m+ keys, and it felt easier
Am I tripping
400%
i just had to go to 3 different stores across the city for red curry paste
Isnt raid spec the same talents as m+ xddd
Were you ever planning on rolling anything else other than chim?
i think everyone is just stocking up for the public holiday tomorrow
no, i dont even have hero gaze and gaze matters so much
i feel screwed overall
Similar but the swift mend increased by 30%
So after you get gaze you will never spend another bonus roll?
GOOD NEWS is, everything is better with curry ❤️
i would but gaze is the prio
i dont even think about other items when i could be getting gaze
i also found fig newtons finally (not fig newton brand but same thing basically)
I think you might be overemphasizing gaze a bit there, bud
Please stop making me hungry
Right, but you just gained a weeks worth of bonus rolls. Best case you get gaze from the 2 rolls next week, and you have just gained 2 extra rolls to spend on anything else. Worst case you get gaze a week "late" but you can spend the 2 extra rolls on moving up whatever else you would roll on another week
picture speaks for itself
So instead of 4 weeks for gaze then start building pity on next item, you already build pity on the next item now
Whops, wrong channel
ik my luck, i wont get it next week
this week 3/4 of my mythic vault slots were held in off hands
You actually don't know your luck
I hate that saying
yeah its all maths but i see a pattern as human and i say to myself, im cursed
The only way you lost anything from this compensation is if you would only ever bonus roll for gaze and literally nothing else
If that's not the case you gained from it
i dont have any other upgrade thats as big as gaze
🐽
entitled ppl with gaze probably dont realize how much it affects their hps
whats the best guide for resto druid? wowhead? icyveins?
you’re crashing out
surely its not that much ngl
im spitting facts, ppl are salty that some ppl get their rolls back but i dont even want it back i just want the item i got this week from mythic dreamrift to be checked off the list so i have better chance of getting mythic gaze next week
even their own sim has it as only 6-7k HPS over mythic HoW
We still do decent numbers without gaze.
You're not spitting anything, you're drooling down your chin
ur just spitting ur own frustration
I haven't hit Mythic yet. Which dungeon are we bonus rolling? Nexus, MT?
Nexus is a popular one.
The worst case is outweighed by best or even average case meaning you have more bonus rolls
Nexus, since it has 5 good items out of the 7
WS for trinkets was something I was considering b/c my second druid's trinket situation is DIRE
There it is 
"Can I see your credentials please?"
i will go for WS bc i got myth gaze and chest alrdy
no im just asking if you classify yourself as being a casual player or if you push keys, raid mythic, etc.
I do raid mythic
do you have hero gaze?
How much is it?
What do you want from WS
ur the math guy pal u tell me
I think I only have champ
@tough portal for me its this and thats is absurd
he’s going to get at least 100,000hps from it
you dont even know???
heart manly and maybe i get myth legs or shoulders till i get heart bc im unlucky in raid
It's so irrelevant
omg
Crazy
Like legit, your healing numbers aren't going to magically go from shit to insane from a trinket
Makes sense
epic
And if your numbers are already good, they're going from good to good
It’s a sub-2% gain for me on QE and I have awful fucking trinkets
What a huge difference
my healing numbers are already good, i just want it
And that's fine, but this crashout over not having it NOW is wild
Are you a casual player?
I dont know what this graph means or what the number represents mate
no
Hi guys ! Sorry for asking stupid question, maybe it was discussed here already, had a lot of work lately … sooo do we play Apex with LB on ourselves in raid ? And in M+ no chages in healing rotation and we do Boomies now for dmg ? Thanks 🍺
What are you then
hungry for gaze, they spelled it out
im not saying i want it now i was fine with 4 weeks tbh, now i gotta wait 1 more week worst case scenario
me me meeee

i do myth raids with a random pug group and im trying to push +18 keys, i wouldnt consider myself casual
That sounds pretty casual to me
crazy thing to say man
They always go too far
Casual is subjective
im talking statistically
anything less than 23s is casual tbh
for bonus loot must itbe same key lvl so if i used at 10 cant used at 14 or maybe i got a dup?
Damn you’re a maths guy
you're on a class discord... you're automatically not casual
back to my shuffles fr
if i'm not casual i have to confront the possibility i'm simply bad
Hey
Do I understand correctly that we are now playing kotl (and elder druid tal) and damage in moonkin?
keys 15+
And why many rdru don't take fluid form? Are there any talents that take priority? m+
i don't know if i'm prepared for that
Hi guys ! Sorry for asking stupid question, maybe it was discussed here already, had a lot of work lately … sooo do we play Apex with LB on ourselves in raid ? And in M+ no chages in healing rotation and we do Boomies now for dmg ? Thanks 🍺
Lb yourself and yes you can cast starfire in m+ for a damage gain
KotG is meme unless you really know why you’re running it (if you’re asking here, you don’t know). Stick with WS and do caster damage.
Thank you 👍🏻
Why are you opening as a caster loot spec then
You have more useless items as a caster and then get them
That's not being unlucky, that's poor planning
im talking statistically
it was this weeks special bad luck, last week i got pieces i already had myth, etc. sorry that i didnt plan in advance for my extreme bad luck
I can't tell if you are trolling
sounds like a skill issue tbh, always gotta plan for that bad luck
Why are you opening as balance or resto if you don't need caster weapons
Surely you can make a logical connection that opening as a spec with less useless items will yield better results on average
surely if i opened as feral i wouldnt get feral trinkets or a polearm

what does that change i dont understand? you remove held in off hands, ok, but you add polearms, dps trinkets
Okay champ
go look at the number of items? its a much smaller pool on guardian/feral
If there are more 2H, 1H and off handers in the pool than polearms and dps trinkets
Does it increase or decrease your chances of getting a gaze
Statistically speaking ofc
if there are more, yes, then its a better option definitely
We use kotg for uptime driads and grove guardian? maybe I don't quite understand this build
Before that im playing only cat WS
how many more do you think there is though?
Idk right now since I’m not at my pc, but I know there is more?
Which is the only thing that matters
Doesn’t matter how many more
Skill issue
donby has to be a master rage baiter
are you going for any caster specific trinkets?
you should lurk more
how does your loot spec matter when opening vault or end of dungeon chest
just loot the item you need?? it's that simple.
true
There are less feral weapons and trinkets than caster ones
I was ragebaiting, but what I’m saying is true
they should add agi 1hs to the feral pool out of fairness
significance matters
It makes 0 sense to not open in feral if you want to maximize the chance of getting gaze
so for my gaze roll next week, my odds went from 33% to 25% again
thats a whopping 8%
...
do NOT tell this guy about p values
its always 50% either u get it or u dont 
And you're still just ignoring how your next item after gaze got significantly better odds?
Are you still talking about gaze? 😭
i dont want it, thats what you dont understand as well
You don’t want Gaze?
Should I be tracking tank power like dk runes?
Nah they don't want to reroll any items after gaze
Apparently
ill take that myth gaze off ur hands
Fully decked out in all mythic pieces
He only wants 0.8% upgrades. If it's 0.6% it isnt good enough so he doesnt want it.
Only missing that darn Gaze
🐽
can track their runic power to see if they have a death strike banked
my solution has been not queuing to grps with a blood DK
also fair shout yea
There is a bug that allows KotG to do increased damage. It’s something you have to build and play around and there’s no knowing when it’ll get fixed so the consensus is to stay as WS. If you’re pushing WF keys, you can try the meme build but you wouldn’t be asking about it if you were. Wildstalker is 100% enough for you. 🙂 promise
Dude you are whining for the last hour
they should make it possible for ferals to use 1hand agi weapons true
the artefact weapons were 1handers after all !
Nobody gives a fuck how unlucky you are with loot
Statistically someone might
XD
hahahah
i would like to see the situation when youre on my end of the line, and it will happen
people have no emphaty nowadays huh
Torty has awful vaults every week.
I am exactly on your end of the line
Just remembered we’ll be playing overcooked in +16 and over next season
I got a myth belt and I have to roll again
i got screwed over because blizzard made a mistake, i get unlucky vaults as well, thats just luck though
one of my first messages was "my hard pity just went from 4 weeks to 5 weeks"
I cant
realistically how much fun i'm having in this game is 90% down to my friends' schedules and past a certain ilvl floor probably <1% down to my loot luck
You didn't get screwed over buddy jesus fucking christ
It's not a race to finish gearing first
im talking statistically
did i miss a bit somewhere im going insane
im stalking tastistically
You drop a follow on mattiu's stream yet mate?
He's showing off his big strong arms while playing restoration druid
- casual is subjective
- im talking statistically
thats a funny reply?
yes casual is subjective

but statistically theres a range in which a player is considered "casual"
No
we all casual bc we dont 0.1% shit or whatever /j
Calling someone a casual is a meaningless word
wait did ppl get offended because being "casual" is something bad?
Watch me get r1 in pvp mate give me 2 months
Bro this resto chat is spicy
no way you can be that special of a snowflake
Bear channel is all chill
dorq what even was your original argument
i was eating and cba to scroll a thousand messages
I will be ur pres evoker opposition
Idk mate I copy pasted 3 words
They called people a special snowflake, my spider sense is tingling
Sweating for healer parse
sorry what the hell is occurring
man all luck to you
i rolled on myth dreamrift for gaze before bonus roll fix, i got another item, next week i have the chance to roll for it again and get the same item
Yeah cry about it
im a very special snowflakie 
they are refunding the roll currency but for myth raids it doesnt fix the issue
I consider everyone a casual that didn’t have atleast 10 100% logs in his life.
But since you’re getting refunded, even if you get it again it balances out
I wonder if I can track on grid2 just tank resources
When is the refund anyways?
also I dont know enough about how each tanks works to know what should I even understand based on their resource
ohh yea cant help u there pal sry im a default ui pvper
how does it so? i cant roll mythic raids twice, so in the worst case scenario my hard pity was on 4 weeks, now its on 5
Am I getting a refund too? Rolled on dreamrift mythic
Masochist
ui is 10% optimization 90% personal preference
you can't roll twice in m+, would be surprised if you could in raid
i guess we'll see next week, cuz it is different for that reason
no if you killed a mythic boss that week youre instance locked you cant even enter the raid if instance id does not match or youre not fresh
We don't know if you can roll multiple times per kill
They should revert bonus roll completely, we don’t deserve it
Is the point
they should send goblin repo squads around to take away everybody's bonus loot
no
no
on m+ you cant (i just did a dungeon)
i know you can't
you're not wrong but it's a very small disadvantage even in the worst possible scenario, there's a shit ton more people who gained an advantage from using their rolls before the flex
because you can't just do a boss again that week like you can with m+ in the same day or next
shit luck happens
it costs 2 so the first time we will find out is next week
if you had vault tokens saved up couldn't you find out this week
ah, this bug Oo
didnt know, thanks
will play fine moonkin damage with WS? before that im catweawing and honestly I'm tired of doing this
is it 1 or 2
i dont know anyone i could ask
1 reroll currency for 6 tokens
idk im in a normal guild and if anyone told me they had 12 tokens for testing this exact thing out i'd kick them from my raid
Hahahaha
You cant save them up like this right? It has a hard limit on how many you can hold
You have to spend your tokens before picking up on a new vault
Im a complete noob but is it even possible to create a macro that just spam uses wrath but casts starsurge if avaialble
theyre unique (12)
unless you held vault completely
no
Says you can carry up to 12 coins
forced to press ctrl + 2 to cast starsurge 
you really only need to hold 6 tho, like, you could have had 6 last week, buy nebulous void core this week before opening vault, take 6 more tokens, buy another one
they should take away all of your bonus rolls and loot and give them to me
i think i might have some tokens on an alt but i dont really care enough to take him through a raid, was just idly wondering
regardless of how special that guy is it is definitely something i'm curious about
banking to roll however many times
How much % haste are you guys aiming for in raid? Need to figure out if I have to change some gear around
all of it. just refer to qelive top gear
Okay so even more than 35%? Think my char sits around 30-35
i mean you cant just download more haste so
I MEAN
just whatever combo of haste/mast qelive top gear spits out for ya
ok
i would absolutely download haste.
Yess
sitting at 39% haste with flask.. i need moooore
the wowhead recommended wildstalker build doesnt use rip and rake?
Need more haste yea to rapid fire all those regrowths
yeah caster stuff got boosted
oo so we cast for dps even without the crazy keeper shenanigans? cool
speaking of haste, I crafted the engi boots without embellishment since they could be crafted with only 1 stat (so shit ton of haste) couple weeks ago - now i bonus rolled NPX bis chest, I already have a crafted chest - is it legit to use the bis chest and recraft boots to have an engi embellishment
i didnt realise engi items had separate embellishments back then, all i saw was haste
All engi embellishes are pretty shit (I love engi)
Why did you craft chest
im sure its been asked before, but do we have a lifebloom cursor weakaura equivalent?
Cause crafting chest was good
There is a new craft next week if you can wait
m33kauras
Engi embellishment are not good
that's true, just gonna be tight with myth crests
Do we know when they will refund the rerolls or is it just pure RNG before the end the week
Honestly, it’s probably just a qelive question
If chest with embellishment + haste boots > 289 chest with engi booth
yeah
What's the best dmg build in m+ atm? for like quick weekly keys
Could someone please help me with some feedback?
Playing rdruid for the first time this season, while I feel I improved a lot since season started my parses are just terrible.
Feedback from wowanalyzer does point to few issues mostly lifebloom refreshes (definitely something to improve) and maybe positioning with it so that efflorescence touches more target but not sure that alone is difference between parsing 30 and parsing 80.
On paladins I ran out of mana for last minute so maybe not ideal but feel I played ok to then see 38 parse.
What would be the 1-3 items to focus on most in order to improve from this point?
https://wowanalyzer.com/report/D7MpBj3Twzbkrxqd/42-Mythic+Lightblinded+Vanguard+-+Kill+(7:54)/1-Shabark/standard/overview
Send your log instead
Kotg with doc
keeper of the grove, call of the elder druid + dream of cenarius
dire times
Ye figured thanks
For dmg in bear form?
Isnt it better to dmg in moonkin rn?
I've been trying it in some 17/18 keys it's definitely viable but you trade higher pad damage and faster trash for worse hps and harder bossing. New apex can kind of carry though
none of those things have anything to do with bear form
and yeah you use "boomie" spells but not the form itself
Anyone know rough % increase doing caster damage vs cat is now?
Not doc just wild stalker casting
what ilvl do I want to start pugging m0 for gear like 230 or?
180
can always make your own groups
Honestly can heal actual keys with that
yeah im just abit out of the loop havent played retail since armidrassil
Thanks for the comments, I've reading your discussion with some other mates about Prosperity stacks and the RJ/RG cycle and I think I'm a tiny better healer now!
Just to double check I got it right, looks to me that you are spreading rj during low damage window, and spamming rg when healing needs to be done? That and SOTF keeps the Prosperity cycle without having to manually watch it (as I have been doing)
Is Mw monk taking resto as top healer? o.O
Idk if anyone even does m0s but getting invited vs appropriate power level are different conversations
Just list your own group
222 is fine, anyone doing that stuff is desperate to fill a group atm because 10s are so undertuned
ill have my friends helping out at some point I just wanted to do some of the work myself
people were level capping and doing those in sub-200 gear across the grp
forgot how easy m0 could be ig :3
I just like to worry myself for nothing, got a decent comprehension of resto from lurkin here anyways.
some of the new stuff they added to gear up might just be more efficient than m0s though like the void assaults or just delves?
idk they added like 5 world events that all give champ track gear I think
If it works
I flew to a void incursion spot last night and couldnt figure out wtf the content is
There's just nothing?! Idk
I did like the world tour and abunch of wq,weekly, got like 4 sparks and crafted a 2h weapon for now.
hello im looking for someone that has 10 free mins and wants to give me a help with dreamgrove's planner so if u feel like you know the class and want to help please dm me xoxo
Get started on the voidforge unlocking if this is your main/only character
void assaults I think are like those end of xpac thigns where you fly around and poop on some mobs and they give currency and that gives gear or something?
it definitely kinda felt like nothing
arent they reskinned wqs?
Can I do it from phone
basically
oh good call I completely forgot about this, its the thingy to bonus roll or something right?
felt so overwhelmed trying to figure everything as fresh 90 yday so I forgot some stuff
Yeah
As long as it’s not prosp patch 12.0 propaganda I’m down
Sorry, attaching the full log if someone could have a look please. https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/D7MpBj3Twzbkrxqd?fight=42&type=healing&source=1
You pick up a quest, kill 3 raid bosses on LFR or do delves or dungeons etc
Do it 6x over

guild might host a normal raid for the freshies ig I could do that
missed my retail druid :3 was fate that 2 of my guilds died in mop!
Cast Regrowth more
You casted 8 Regrowths for your first 36 (+12 from SOTF) Rejuvs
Do I just send regrowths even when everyone is healthy? What would be the ideal ratio here?
Sure, especially if you arent ramping with purpose into a Tranq or something
It's your mana knob
Abundance
Ramp up for whatever event you're trying to cover or just to 12 stacks otherwise
Cast Regrowth until your stacks dwindle low, like 6-8 stacks
also swiftmend yourself more to extend lb and 2 rejuvs
It isnt the end of the world to send some Swiftmends on spothealing someone in a dire situation but yeah it should be large majority on the LB target (yourself here) and extending 2x Rejuvs too. You should have 100% uptime on LB Reju Germ
That's good, thank you. Should also help with my mana if fix that problem.
@tough portal did specific refo cdr / tol numbers change since tww?
Could you provide a log from yourself so I can put them next to each other and see how I can improve?
Yes
We have cdr on SM and WG in keeper
Also cdr on WG in 4p
And treants spawn from those, not from the spell
So we just have a lot more cdr on tree
No
ye right
You can easily do 10 cpm of both now
Why not?
So under 1:30 isn't hard to do
this sounds ass to implement
Yes
Cause he’s not raiding this tier
I dont have any
Planning it is basically impossible
yeye
But also this makes 0 sense to look at tbf
Not wildstalker gameplay
I was gonna say
Go look up Torty on Warcraftlogs
This aint WS
Also don't forget control the dream
Looooool
that is easy
But honestly the only thing changed is press WG less
but yeah didnt consider the sm changes
that makes it pointless to even update the tool kinda
How do I get to the CPM as you linked for myself?
nvm
There is no magic fix
Im slightly rtarded got it
I think they just wanted help navigating the site
Gotcha, I tend to forget to press regrowth but also I do hate raiding also resto druid
RG is our biggest healing button
Mythic staff from nexus point is better than crafted staff + second embellishment?
So yeah it’s pretty important
Yes, you just run double arcanoweave instead
Lovely, tnx!
I know, I just watch abundance stacks too much and then forget the spell exists, its just rtarded
I made the char for m+
Ended up needing to heal for casuals
Resto Druid is definitely two different healers in m+ and raid
In m+, damage wise, is it now worth taking boomy form and sunfiring, moonfiring and lunar striking on aoe? Or just stick with cat weaving bleeds in?
never raided on rdudu either always just did M+, was playing rsham/evoker in raid.
Rsham was fun with cburst
Optimize it
And send huge numbers
I have issues with finding something where I can see that for example big damage is incoming in 15/20 seconds so I can ramp up
So now im spamming rejuv like a moron
and then pray to god I get something to regrowth
You’re thinking about it wrong - We’re not really ramping like that
Rejuv ramp legit takes like 8s
Just think less in terms of ramping for a burst cd and more just cycling between 2 modes
^what face said
My head is just pointed so hard at 'I need 12 stacks else I cant press RG"
Its annoying af
Sunfiring or Moonfire only in single target
Starfire supplants every spell in AOE
Does QE Live change embellishments if needed? IE I have crafted weapon, but got NXP myth weapon. Would QE tell me if swapping weapons and adding a second arcanoweave is better?
Still having issues with something in grid2, hoping one of the squad can enlighten me. When the patch dropped, my unit frames are suddenly showing the "dispellable debuff color" despite it not being checked in the default blizzard options. In grid2, I don't see that i've changed any setting; nonetheless, magic debuffs are still highlighted blue, poison as green, etc. Anyone having a similar issue?
Has anyone been dropping to 2m convoke for 2/2 tv. That shit feels so nice to have for nb
Are you healing also with like 9/10 stacks of abun?
You can/have to just add another crafted item with an embellishment to the comparison
Yes
Can I add it to the sim without having to craf it? 😅
Meant to ask you: if you have a 100% DPS Convoke (eg. no possible need for it in the next minute), is it still better to Kitty Convoke or have you been caster/moonkin convoking?
(I know your pin says boomie Convoke is zzzzz)
Yes I played that yesterday
No, dont cat Convoke. You can chicken Convoke in single target, but in AOE its legit not even better than casting Starfire
Is this pure KOTG?
It's piss
OK. That’s (boomie in ST) what I’ve been doing but haven’t mathed it out. Thanks.
oh
I would not play this talent tree rn
What I also feel is that with the morons I play with is that I literally dont have time to press wrath in most situations
Better just go liveliness?
Welcome to 2026
Welcome to resto druid basically
We used rip for mana since undermine
ngl
I NEVER read the last part
hahaha im so fkn stupid
I didnt even see rip regenned mana
Nah it's ok, it's a lot of weird interactions
The current spec is a result of an amalgamation of 20 different talents synergizing in a specific way
100% the one you have to work the hardest for a bit of hps
felt so weird the first day as I didnt really touch rdudu since huh early df
Gm
Gm
gmgm
goood mornin'
Thank you, should I combine with cat bleeds? I guess the answer is yes on ST no on aoe?
Anyone know if its possible on grid2 to show just tank's power? Should that be power or alt power?
For resources like runes or rage etc
No reason to, no
shouldnt have rake/rip in m+ talent anyways

so catweaving is not relevant anymore?
(in m+)
its not bad, just that caster is now better with the new patch.
But for mana right?
i see, thanks 🙂
Can’t u generate mana with it somehow or did that someone say just for when I do dmg I regenerate mana
Like the normal regenerate rate
both plays with, thats the mana ur probably talking of.
Ah ok
But mana wise
Just by reading it boomkin should generate more
Then cat with 5 combo points cause get the 5 points first lol
from what I know tho mana aint really an issue, at least for m+. Think only priest struggle with mana mostly.
Real dmg
the one that matters
is still fine and competitive
but fake pad dmg is much better on boomking
I also feel i always need the double swiftmend to proc more sotf & lifebloom blooms (which i swap around a lot on targets taking damage) is that a proper play? or is verdant infusion much more viable?
caster also more accessible imo for less experienced druid players.
Boomking will still save you more time
I just hate how long it takes to cast a starfire
china has been doing a lot of keys as bird now
With players of same skill lvl that is

On 17s I get mana problems sometimes when u have to ,panic’ heal
There are a good ammount of packs that have 0 prio mobs
and doing 100k dps as boomie in those
surely shaves of a few seconds of a key
Minutes
no
No
ok idc tbh
He is not comparing 100 to 0
you time keys with 4 minutes left
He is comparing 100 to alternatives
Just cuz you do 100k now doesn't mean you would be doing 0 otherwise, you know
r1 MC, they are moving on from cat 
Lota was saying its still worse hps for hard checks last night though 
moonkin form 
It gives 10% spellpower bro you wouldn't get it
for m+ or raids yall use any kind of addon or is the game's boss ability bar thingy fine?
If he plays wildstalker how is it worse
Worse hps for hardchecks doesn’t Sound like a Boss where you would dps a lot eitherway
Nah but you can still hotw rip
he was playing mostly kotg last night, but even as WS he thinks the 2 points for DoC aren't ideal for hps

I guess that’s a bit worse going doc
Agreed on that
Aren't you struggling with mana on 17+?
Nah
Anyone know if they nerfed gathering speed in the .5 patch? Feel like my dudu is picking up flowers much slower.
Master shapeshifter gives a lot of mana
And with doc you heal and get mana on quite a few packs
i am playing Liiveliness in m+ :S
why
Go Master shapeshifter
That sucks but also thanks
agreed
could u show ur grid2 settings for debuffs? if u have blizzard nameplates disabled then i dont think it would be in blizz option anyways but i could be wrong
Rofl dead
why would i not use fluid form when doing caster dmg? i dont get it, is it not worth? going by talent trees on icy and wowhead
Tbh I think for healing heavy dungeons you still go livelines
I might be wrong dont take me for a preacher
Because you do more DPS in caster form
6% multiplicative haste and 4% magic dmg is better than 10% spell damage
Starfire starfire
You press Sunfire while moving
And you convoke for healing
Convoke does less dmg than Starfire xD
Because it doesn't cast it
thrash worth while moving?
sure but what is bugged?
Cleave dmg and instant cast stacks
Oh I see what you mean
It does double the cleave
On 6 mobs right now you do like 40% more dmg than you should be doing with starfire
And the more mobs the more dmg you get from this bug
just saw someone running this in m+ how bad is it
Not picking photo is criminaln
Reforestation is poop in dungeons
Otherwise looks very vanilla
Can also drop hibernate for starsurge imo
But that's whatever, maybe they need hibernate in some places
only playing keeper with doc
is skipping moonkin form and sunfire optimal or is there nowhere else to put the points
Moonkin form is a useless talent
Sunfire does less dmg than starfire
You only use it for movement
Think I would rather cast a single rejuv on anyone than cast sunfire then
Yeah that's fair
yea thats what im thinking
Which I guess why they dropped it
we cant reach starlight conduit without it, no?
hes taking the astral reach
keeper is just doing weird things dps-wise right now. he's jdotb in a +20 MT
whatever its called
taking hibernate
wildstalkers maxing out dps around 20k, keepers hitting 40-50k
What you running for keepers?
If you press scroll button on your device once you will find I described the bugs
weird bug
Wouldnt be taking any of the other talents better then hibernate?
Crazy how this place went from "I'm a healer why do I need to DPS" to taking shit talents to do an extra 10k dps
Im once again asking if someone knows how to specifically show only on the tank their resources/power with grid2, I find dk in M+ disgustingly hard to understand
in m+ whats the difference between 2 swiftmends vs extending hots
we can I showed you literally yesterday
I timed a 17 with 14 deaths last night. Doesn't seem like a healer DPS issue
and you get an extra point if you do that
one is good one is bad
ye it wasnt a question
It wasn't we had multiple deaths on boss fights so we couldn't cr, but I ain't gonna not try and find a way to solve it myself if I have the means to do so
then it was just a wrong claim, right?
yes
you forgot the “and then proceeds to never press DPS buttons and does less than we were doing as Kitty”
jokes aside, vi allows you to spend more gcds casting better healing spells than lb
prosp gives you more flexibility
sounds like a lot
sounds average


