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the heart is good
why is everyone going fluid form in keys 🤔

There's some tech where you use it to remove debuffs
Do I have decent resto trinkets?
Other than that not sure
oh girl aint nobody got time for that
i read that when searching the chat but wasnt sure
was like... that sounds degen
depends, which ones are myth
all heroic 😄
oh yes sorry heart of wind not ember
is heart of wind what we’re going for, for myth?
i currently have hero gaze and glorious crusaders
i have hero litany but qelive said crusaders is better
Would you craft haste/mastery neck or pick this one?
thats decent
in a pug chim wish me luck! ❤️
so I just had our first night of pulls on paladins
apex on those heal absorbs is so much fun
that was our last pull of the night, got it to 31%
apex is 20% of my overall
I assumed it would be worse than it was tbh, we did like 100 pulls on beloren before trying paladins due to some people being out for the week
yeah apex is great
https://i.imgur.com/5eeel04.png
That was my best one but you're much further along than we are.. this was only like 70%
wow 200 hps is awesome i think ive only ever been like 145
yeah its a fun fight
this was my best pull last night lol
we just started prog on it yesterday
its fun when details shows 400k hps
idc if that shits fake
lol yeah
I got up to like 360k at one point tonight
was cool af lol
our priest got salty after raid
2 hours ago it got pushed
he's a huge taylor swift fan lol
are they ill (playing holy)

I am currently playing guardian on 17 keys, boomkin on 16 keys. Wanna try out resto. Are 10s good place to start practicing? Would you try healing in 15 keys or would it be griefing 😄
dont garf me garf them
if i could
man, gave all the other healers grey logs on my chim M kill and still had 40% overhealing :/
I checked m+ build on wowhead and it doesn't have cat spells. is catweaving outdated? Do we dps as moonkin instead nowadays (because the build has starsurge etc)
yes
which guide is most up to date? i saw some arakara example on wowhead guide
wowhead
icyveins
both the same
we overheal by design
ignore metric
You will always have around 60-80k hps overheal only on yourself in raid.
Stack mastery?
Can I get a log review? Not sure how to get to elite logs in a pug: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/mPDzdqbvLGFkHTty?fight=25&type=healing
no
push regrowth
be real
you absolutely have enough knowledge and resources to know how to improve your already orange parse (being concerned with cohealer greys and overhealing as a metric)
yeah
not really interested in entertaining that
???
If you're gonna drop Cenarius Guidance to enable Nature's Bounty more
You have to cast twice as many Regrowths as that @ornate pollen
yea, makes sense, thanks face
I am reading wildstalker talents. decent amount of talents there buff cat abilities. Do we just ignore them and take those talents for healing effects?
yes we take wildstalker for healing
Also how do we deal damage as boomkin? do we actually shift into moonkin form to benefit from 10% spell damage? Or is it common to cast moonkin spells on humanoid (or tree) form?
bonus rolling on chim is so risky, i have a crafted belt, we dont need teir chest, dont need an offhand.... its just a trinket
stay in caster form, no boomkin
in no content do we actually go into moonkin form
love that the offhand has regret in the name
guess how i know
-.-
I got the offhand
hahaha
but i gess if we kill it on mythic.. i kind of have to bonus roll right?... right?
Manually shifting is a DPS loss
yes
thats what theyre for
no one does
You could spend another talent on Fluid Form and shift automatically, that costs a talent that buffs your healing (or Ursine Vigor)
we are all in this together
haha yes hold my hand!
Which is fine, not the end of the world, but it's a small DPS gain to begin with
Wouldn't we want to eventually use the offhand with a crafted 1h?
how much is livliness worth
Little ilvl gain
but i already crafted the 2 hand weapon
why would you use it with crafted 1h
so feels wastful
embel
isnt 2 arcanoweave better
Yeah i have a 2h with embel currently
With beloren dagger you could
But thats no better than just any of the 3 haste mastery staves from M+ either
what does the chimerus offhand vendor for i guess is the real question
or disenchant
I think DE
key?
that is cursed
let's start here
you are weak
lol
THIS IS KEEPR
that doesnt change it being cursed
prosperity is giga comfy
KOTG Imp Swiftmend I would never use VI, the Swiftmend actually chunks people up with those 2
Prosp all day
Secret tech: Blooming Infusion can be gamed by pairing Nature's Bounty with Rampant Growth and you alternate Regrowth with Starfire while maintaining Lifebloom. This is a ~25% DPS gain on the Starfires.
This part is not for m+ I assume? Since for m+ wildstalker is recommended and Blooming Infusion seems to be kotg talent
This is a dps tech for m+
Not recommended if you want to maximize your healing output.
I see
you are and always have been such a real one
For bear/boomkin it is recommended to use top gear sim while deciding between items. For healing does it also work good? Should I use QE Live thing instead?
yeah qelive top gear does hps for us
make sure for keys you use the dungeon mode
picker in top right
this vigil CDM looks sweet but idk if i wanna take the time to set it up lol
I'm using ayije CDM, very nice
thanks, I will 👍🏻
im still using arcui
Caster dps. Is it a buff to go moonkin? You loose 6% haste + 4% magic damage? Is it worth the 10 percent from moonkin. Or you do it just for the offensive convoke?
More limited than Arc ofc but it doesnt randomly reorder my shit
you dont moonkin and you dont moonkin convoke
yeah that still randomly happens lol
heal convoke or cat, and cat to hotw
Manually shifting is a DPS loss
You could swap a defensive or healing talent (Ursine Vigor, Symbiotic Relationship, something) in the bottom for Fluid Form also, that is a DPS gain, but realistically like ~2% DPS at most in a key
+1 to what nance said
+1 to what face said
Just save Convoke for healing
im not doing anything advanced with arcui anymore is why i was considering switching
early days of lifebloom alert relied on it
I am very excited, I will heal my first key this season 😄
Keep someone (mostly the tank) on lifebloom
Cast swiftmend and wild growth on cd
Complement with regrowth
How hard can it be
On top of that we have convoke and tranq
In before I try to dps without mastering healing and let people die
Damaging is really complementary right?
Yeah the spec is OP mate just cast Swiftmend on CD and assess SOTF use
I should probably not worry about dps much atm
when you learn how to heal good you will have time to fill with other activities
wtf do i do
Is KotG the new m+ Meta over WS?
this shit is good bro
Since I played other roles I am already familiar with tank busters etc. that should help
I am not sure I understood how to use hotw in dungeons. I want to just cat hotw prio targets? Is moonkin hotw bad?
Where do you read / see that ?
also does this look sketchy? so many bear gems/enchants
You guys really don’t see the vision of dream of cenarius in keys. It’s not just dps tech, it does insane healing with multiple targets to hit
For M+ are ppl switching to away from ND and taking HB? Based on archeon ...
you do better healing by healing
No
I’ve pulled 100-120k dps during call of the elder Druid. Most of it star fire
At a 150% conversion that’s 150k hps plus all your hots keep ticking
we killed the boss! i bonus rolled a belt 🙁 but i have the crafted belt
Your boss healing is worse if it doesn’t have adds I will definitely grant you that, but on packs it’s more healing than tranq on a 1m cd
And you do a lot of damage so pack dies fast
thats great
not sure where this is coming from
did you join the cord just to strike up this discussion or
wow a green parse, are guilds 3 healing chim? i did 120k hps which is pretty good for me
no
zero hps fight
wcyd
yeah
It comes down to what is hardest to heal in a dungeon and whether you're talenting to heal the piss pulls or the hardest to heal spots
not a great time to do that i'm afraid. they kind of shot healing in general
ppl are 3 healing>
Like by all means knock yourself out with DOC and doing more damage bro
dw honestly with chim if ur not grey parsing its fine
But I need >200k hps in a lot of pulls even in a +15 key.
blue parse will get you invites np
But you cant just act like it doesnt nerf your healing potential when you're healing stuff
im just tryin to hang in there 🙂
And on singletarget/bossfights your build does nothing.
I got >100k hps overall in that key range.
are you kidding?
Is there a a addon that reminds me of MOTW and SR?
chimaeurs?
the pug i went into says they do it every week at the same time
yeah?
she asked if ppl are 3 healing u said yes
yeah, i did
how do you decide which side solo heals?
class reminders
is prosperity with kotg a meme in keys? felt kinda ok
not loading on my laptop but i swear this is not new info
Kotg in keys is a meme
i saw it
I really hate playing kotg
lol
okay sure but 120k is low
thats the problem with healing parses
press more regrowth
theres nothing to heal
well for me 120 is high 🙂
if u have 4 healers with hands
even then press rg asnd u will get like 150k
impossible challenge
let me look at the log maybe i didnt do bad who knows but it says green parse
I think even if there is nothing to heal, if you are the best healer in the raid you can probably do the most haeling
yall don’t play with your feet?
obviously you arent really going to be doing 200k hps on chimaerus without some shenanigans afoot
but you can easily do 150kish
idk i did 165ish in a pug
literally felt like i was just slamming my face into the keyboard with zero thought
easier than heroic
yep
Pug = 3 healers having grey logs
they all parsed green
Alright Mattiu I’m awake
theres literally 0 damage in that fight man
Show me what abomination you ended up on
That’s the same basically.
trash
shruge
if i was on lura maybe it would be good
but i regressed to aleria
otherwise on autopilot
wait how do i know if i did good regrowths? what metric am i looking for? https://wowanalyzer.com/report/8bkhmaK4cQF3q7Wy/18-Mythic+Chimaerus,+the+Undreamt+God+-+Kill+(6:08)/1344-Valvals/standard/statistics
yup
the cpm was 7
i think thats pertty good
this was my pug i did today no guildies
We still play WS in keys right? Can see on murlock some are KOTG
play ws
anyone know how to fix grid from showing raid buffs/debuffs?
@gentle nova is the new grid expert
Also why does my mcdonald open at 8am when I for once in my life want a coffee from there
grats!
10s are so easy after all, didn't expect any worse tbh
I wanna try healing 15 but i don't wanna grief
tyty
only problem I had was on key 3 I had regrowth historically, placed starsurge in there and I was constantly trying to damage when I wanted to heal
i havnt done ANY keys this week actually ive been slacking
I should review my keybindings lol
i use the mouse wheel to dps i just roll it up/down
do you have the mouse wheel keybound yet?
I use camera zoom in out
i hold ctrl to zoom in/out with mouse wheel
on other specs too (bear boomkin) I never assigned abilities on scroll tbh
with the apex changes and running wildstalker do we always SM LB target then?
I am still not sure how to utilize hotw btw, guides don't say much about it, no?
it makes it easier
cat + frenzy or boomkin?
thanks!
Cat
When I play bear, I use rake (with fluid form talent) hotw then back to bear with mangle
I guess as resto you just manually cast cat form then hotw?
I can’t rake coz m+ build I use (from wowhead) doesn’t have it (has moonkin spells)
Though I guess it’s too min-maxy to cast rake to go cat
Damage is probably negligible
Why isn't there craft options and trinkets and all other things showing like for balance druid on dreamgrove.gg?
Have you tried wowhead?
Use QE for crafts and trinkets
right now im m+ we are just using starfire and starsurge, we are not going into boomkin form. and im pretty sure we are not trying that hard to dps. keep heals as your focus
are we changing any talents now in 12.0.5 or still kinda the same for m+ ?
Trinkets Locus-Walker's Ribbon Locus-Walker's Ribbon Crown of the Cosmos (Raid)
Trinkets Vaelgor's Final Stare Vaelgor's Final Stare
They say t hese are 2 best
Trinkets
wowhead was updated by the experts in this discord
Locus is best for raid I guess
Damn I have both
Mythic Vaelgor stare
And Locus Hc
Thats nice
I need to reroll for one of the bosses from boomkie and its gonna be tough to learn all
:S
maybe they pushed more than just regrowth
Nop he in fact pushed rg
Can someone explain how the Apex talent works?
My Lifebloom uptime is good, but my Apex healing is lower than other druids.
How hard is it going to be swapping to restro druid if you never played it in ur life but you played boomkie?
Show a log
im gonna try to push more regrowths next raid thats my new goal
Do you think Gaze is better for resto on Mythic Paladins or Locus?
Use both
its still your top heal
150%
Sucks
So its gaze locus or gaze Void suffuser
Gaze locus
Press more regrowth
Are you taking all the absorbs
Yes, but I have a tough competition with the druid above me.
And I can't find in log what he do better
Yes
Both are playing bad
😝
How do you guys know when to start rg and when to stop to rejuv again ?
How can I improve...
With all the hots you will do a lot of hps
I have a vod of me healing paladins if you want
You do not „start rejuv“. You keep them up with swiftmend.
Then press Regrowth.
It would be great
mattiu is telling us we need to regrowth more. once you have good lifebloom uptime, swiftment casts and 12 abduance stacks spam the regrowths
are you memeing? I am new too and scared
Your sound sounds weird
I played pretty decently
On stream
Wdym
Idk how to explain
Its hard to master
Your music sounds normal
Your game sound is like echo-y or distant or idk
It's weird
Thank you very much
so im watching it. i get a few seconds in. and is the reason you tranq when you did so your hots stay on everyone through the big hits? instead of using tranq during the big hits?!
Tranq doesnt do healing
You want to extend your hots for your rg window to be longer
If you press it for damage its bas
Bad
this opens my brain to a whole new way to think about it
also no one is standing in your green circle you are too far away from your friends
Itll also make you recover like 20% mana
Called out
Yeah thats whatever
haha
Id rather not move and spam rg more
its okay im normally staring at a wall...
The more you move the less you are casting
I had a pull today where I casted my first lifebloom at 1:25
Full uptime
are the bonus items still getting dupplicated?
Just from Swiftmend and presumably a tranq?
well thank you for sharing your video
You can maintain a lot of hots just using swiftmend
Yeah
So you wanna always regrowth within 8 to 12+ abundance stack right ? if my stacks falls under 8 do i build up back to 8 or do i go higher to give me more time to spam ?
Opens up the gcds for the good spell
Sotf rejuv basically holds you at 8
looks like you regrowth as long as you can until your next swiftmend cast to get it back up to 12
I’m almost thinking I want to make a dedicated Swiftmend @ self bind for raid
So you prio regrowth even at less stacks than 12 on abundance? Whats the preferred amount? Like 9+?
Oh okay i think i am trying too hard to get 12 stacks
Check the vod i posted, the rg spam gameplay is pretty decently played
New rolls will be removed from the pool, but any items you rolled before the hotfix can still be rolled again
regrowth is crazy cheap to cast
youre over thinking it if youre trying to maintain 12
How far up is vod?
so im guessing i need more haste i think im at 30 something %
I do not look at my abundance stacks
A couple messages
Me either
There is no point
But you need a headliner for news
I’m busy looking for other things
Real
If I had public logs avg stacks would be that
What vid ?
scroll up like 5 minutes
i got myth chest token even if i have myth chest from dreamrift mythic
That’s intended
Not a bug
its only removed from the loot pool once you use a token on it
not on stuff you got before
Have you seen the light with the regrowth and rejuv pandemic gameplay?
ill try the regrowth spam sometime i think we are doing a pug raid tomorrow
Not maintain, gotta ramp for 12 stacks before dmg is coming, than youll have a window of 15 seconds of free rg Spams
this doesnt mean hang out around 4 stacks, its just showing that casting regrowth will not make you go oom
So once I have 4 stacks stop pressing rejuv 
for m+, do i wanna have rejuv on all 5 at all times or is that an easy way to go oom
im too bad for it but yes
i try
excellent way to go oom
i pandemic my rejuvs
I was kinda locked in tonight
if damage is coming, spread rejuvs. If not, don’t.
I’m pretty sure with the rejuv recycling I won’t go oom
keep lifebloom active at all times, wild growth/swiftmend on cooldown, and when do i exactly use rejuv in m+? when i expect damage on my target?
You dont wg and dw off cd
If you Play Mana Talent (im raid) you will not go oom anyway
I won’t play that talent
you do that in raid cause #1 someone is always taking some dmg, very rarely is there 0 dmg going on
I will play the talent that does more healing
#2 you want to snipe healing
mana talent is pointless
And simply play better instead of going oom
ye it says it's fine to hold wg
🤯
There is 0 need to use either in m+
if there is no dmg
Fair enough
click dps buttons
what is dw
can i have a raidleader as calm as yours @gentle nova
yeah tbh i healed a 10 to test healing, most of the time nothing was going on so I casted starfire on packs lol
there’s a lot of that
It's me or i just see everyone switch to wildstalker in raid ?
mattiu looks like that meme guy pushing buttons with ambition
only you see it
just you twin
im joking yes WS is more healing
POV me playing druid
😂
resto in keys is the other guy singing
you are just not sweaty that's all 😄
hahaha
Rdruid can be either
tbh that 10 key was so chill, i am scared to try healing 15 keys
You can just press random spells tab out and be fine
i don't want that chill healing experience to be ruined for me
is resto really that good
yeah
i like the idea that it is hard to master but very rewarding with very little at the same time
Yes by far the best Specc, always has been
I read all the talents for sake of having a clue (and maybe remember some abbreviations) and there are so many different interactions between spells
literal footage of me while I tranq
synergy between offensive spells and healing spells too
that sounds about right
you can do decent with not much effort
if you wanna do insane hps then its hard
keep lifebloom on yourself in raid. and on the tank in m+, swiftmend yourself, and in m+ keys you can use regrowth after the swiftmend and it will heal other people.
swiftmend the tank in keys *
I did overthink it and i purposely try not to reach 12 outside of maybe cooldowns. 🤷♂️
m+ is way easier bc theres no other healer stealing your heals. you just tell the dps to wait, the heals are coming. you heal over time
rdruid in m+ is peak
Wrong
No way
Average pullcount is like 40-60 higher on beloren
cause wipes are faster
not 8 mins in
beloren felt piss idk
you kill it 1 pull after you reach egg 2
I see, thanks for the tips
I checked yesterday and there was one guild that went beloren first befor cosmos
And Lets just say
They lost like 40-50 wr with that
lmao
is boomkin more dmg in M+ now with the change?
gg
Yes
Had to Check cause my Guild wanted to do beloren first so I compared

belo is more fun
Tbh I like that change. Catweaving feels awkward. Boomkin spells are easier to cast in humanoid form
i hate dance bosses
That might be true
rdruid is so crazy, 47% overheal on that pull xD
You lose 10% dmg though but I guess people don’t care about dps that much as healer
and its all on yourself
when a healing absorb jumps on me on cosmos
i go up 100k hps
and clear it in 2 globals
rofl
Mattiu do you do keys
You gain 6% haste by not going boomie
only when im bored
I should checkout your channels if so
Wait how? From a talent?
catweaving is very smooth once you're used to it, casting starfire is what feels awkward to me
Lycaras
Just spam dispel eventually it’s on you

Yeah using fluid form I just have my keys as damage for cat, so it swaps me and click casting for heals with mouse buttons to swap back - super chill
And 4% Magic dmg
i hate when i spam 3 globals on absorbs and then they get insta dispeled
tell your heals to not be idiots xD
Feelsbadman
one thing i feel weird as healer is that, sometimes actually not sometimes, maybe all the time you heal when there is no need to heal. like, people are full hp, people are still healing. you get higher on ranks this way. never understood that. shouldn't overheal be factored out when deciding who actually did necessary healing?
this has ragebaited me too many times to count
Overheal does nothing for Your Ranks?
Yeah it’s dumb if I just spam heals I can get 99 in a key but if I do damage and heal and key is faster/smoother it’ll give me 70s
well i would agree if it was something like idk a holypriest
Why lifebloom on myself btw in raid? I thought it was on someone where a lot of people are in it
why is this talent skipped? isn't magic damage also good? other talents are better?
but when you keep healing even if theres no damage as druid you increase your hps throughput for when you need the healing
It’s the weirdest mindset and takes a while to ignore. For druids our hots stay on the target 12-15 seconds so we need to have them up at all times so it’s ready for the damage.
It’s not Skipped you play that
Easier to position and your never out of range of yourself
thats a minimal reason but yeah
Hum ok
the main reason is you got perma 24% healing increase on yourself, and potential 20%+ from barkskin
so the apex splashes are stronger
wowhead m+ build doesn't have it
Ah the math answer! ^^
Ahhhhh ok
any improvements on this build? (I copied from wowhead m+ ws build)
Goodnight ty for all the tips. Thanks for sharing your video I enjoyed it
VAL did i tell u i got a baby daughter
Most people can drop Incap roar they don’t have it on their Bars Even
Rooot I’m going to sleeeeppp
Goodnight
gnight
well i don't expect to go into bear form often if i am healing right. right? So I'll take lycara bottom one (magic dmg)
And then they link death logs of double fire spit where they did jackshit to stop it
I'm tired in Hawaii anyone still awake in the mainland is fkn nuts
rofl
That doesnt mean they should drop the talents lol they should just use it
You Tell them to use it and they won’t in the Next key eitherway
theres that nurtering spirit that shows up in your logs
why, isn't it good to prevent some casts sometimes? like fear on mt, poison blades on ws etc etc
Also only needed in very few keys
no way you should ever drop ursine
why not
anyone know how to fix grid from showing raid buffs/debuffs?
unless youre doing 25s or some shit
anyone try the elder + dream of cenarius build? any good as WS? better as kotg? fake build?
2 minute convoke?
also i want to have 1 minute stampeding roar, what can i drop?
More time for him to regrowth!
why lmao
too calm?
I love his raid leader!!
He tries so hard to sound like a robot / weak aura
Mine is screaming and freaking out
Exactly
or getting mad mid pull
I think my rl streams.. but no one watches.. maybe there’s a clip somewhere
because there's way weaker talents, he for example has 2 points in matted fur which can easily be replaced
you cant trade matted fur for ursine tho
im just resil 17 but bear has saved me many times already at 16-18 range
and will do it even more in higher keys
But what do you take instead of CG
tf is cg
you cant tell me 1 point in matted fur is stronger than ursine as a defensive
1 more tv
you cant trade that
you cant go down if you drop 1 matted fur
i didn't know about that. so rankings favor people that actually heal when hp is missing?
this row is full
but idk
Your Rank is based of the healing You did to people
see
these are the interchangeables
Not overheal
I haven't seen any of the highest rated rdruids not use ursine
He streams with no discord sound?! Ahh I can’t show u
what's up with holy priests? direct heal? like, hp missing, you heal, hp increases. no pre casting like we do
and its very strong from my own experience aswell
Are you talking to people playing in good enough groups that the other 4 players cover all the control needed or talking to people that are too bad to even press Incap Roar when it would be helpful? And these people are getting a lot of mileage out of 4% magic damage are they?
u gotta ask yourself did 15% on top of 20% of bear form really did anything
Yes
it does
did it
More EHP isnt meaningless if the damage wouldnt one shot you
It's still gonna get you out of bear form at a higher hp %
Naenia manages to have bad takes, back to back all the time
It's practically a healing talent
Like if you live a hit at 10%, with UV you live it at 25% so the talent did 60k healing
Yeah ofc
Sure
I would take Moonkin form more often than 4% magic damage tho
I mean Fluid form
It's close damage wise and it's nice to shift around without manually pressing shit on the snares
I see ppl on raiderio taking keeper of the grove and playing the moonkin form
how does this look
@primal jungle be my friend so discord lets me DM u
lol it's funny i just asked talent recommendations then people argue over that this long xD
take incap roar drop the stampeding roar cd redu
and we always do this
It's all fine bro idk I think you're trolling dropping incap roar but knock urself out
i intentionally picked 1 min stamp roar though, i really like it
I like incap roar too
i just dunno what else to drop
ursine vigor might be more relevant when i do 17-18 keys
currently 16 resi, started 17s just now
You just healed a 10 for the first time and now you’re doing 17’s already?!
i just realized i completely forgot to cast symbio on my 10 mt run, not that it mattered much but still lol
You must have lots of friends
lets say i am mentally preparing myself and my build for 17s 😄
probably another spec
I mean I can run my own 16 key (to not grief others) and i still wanna be prepared the best way i can 😄
they have a bear on the pfp i guess they tank
I stand in too many puddles to do 17’s
yeah i am playing bear when i push highest difficulty (17s) and boomkin when I do my resi level key (since it is my own key, i dont have to play tank)
At least we don’t have to dodge rocks this season
what rocks
im about to start climbing on pres LOOK OUT EU LFG
blackrook hold
i liked dodging rocks on ravencrest dungeon
And there was a raid boss with rocks
haha i am 34, can you tell
my childhood 😄
hugo is goated
seriously though i still dunno how to optimize my talents
spiritually granpa..
they had a tv show here where ppl called and played hugo on tv with their phones and used the numbers as the arrows
was that a thing elsewhere
is there really no way to get stamp roar and incap roar? coz i wanna have oh shit button incap roar and stamp roar to close gap between tank and me while learning

yeah in Turkey too
there was a noticeable delay between buttons and actual effect too
you can drop symbiotic relationship or a point in forestwalk and its not gonna matter
if u really wanna keep roar cd reduction
actually we had the show banned because some turkish kid cussed at hugo on live TV saying "fuck hugo's p*ssy" lmao
like this?
You can just travel/cat form to keep up with brewmasters bro ngl that is pretty pointless
Wild charge in no-form also
what if you are inside?
I dont think 1 min roar is gonna be as useful as you're thinking
There are some dungeons where you can travel form even where you cant mount rn
Like Xenas for instance
you are very fast in general... imp roar is mostly good for slow dps to keep up
I dunno when i was doing that 10 today, pala was running like crazy (probably coz it was a 10) and i had moments i pushed stamp roar and it was on cd
maybe it is not that useful indeed
tiger dash my goat
But if you're building to mentally prepare for 17s...
i usually love tiger... but this season is soo good for travel + wild charge
These rocks! I found the video! https://youtu.be/6zruz6-QYv4
yes i am, that is the #1 priority rn
Ideally you'll be a bit more aware of tank positioning and following them without getting outranged
that is fair
lmfao
is that u
good edit
My risk paid off triple i think...
Bliz's blus post
it mentions.
8:05 p.m. PDT on Wednesday, April 22 (05:05 CEST April 23).
I did 2 rerolls Wednesday morning in NPX, latest at April 22 at 12:17 CEST & got a Staff and the Crit/haste ring.
so soon i'll get 2 more reroll tokens, so I can roll with Feral lootspec on NPX to get the staff that i now already own out of the lootpool
Hello! We want to follow up on our previous post about issues we encountered with the new Voidforge bonus roll system. The Voidforge system is a brand new system using new tech that enables players to earn their desired myth track gear utilizing a bonus roll currency called Nebulous Voidcores to improve the player experience of gearing during S...
not quite right on the forestwalk.
Making everbloom go more BRRRR
I personally think it’s Bad that they reroll
ye, the hug button that i only use before we start dungeon lol, i should use it more
Yes and @primal jungle made it
lmao
thats dogshit actually
Guys can someone recommend me some game yall play when you are done with wow
since im pretty done for this season
i didnt spend my rolls cuz it was bugged now people with your luck just have 2 more free items over me lmao
What kind of game bro
Most people are either neutral or up 2-3 Items
I'm playing pokemon rn
neopets
Cause very few people got duplicates
Tri peaks solitaire on my phone
what about the raid man
I will log to kill lura 3 times a week for 3 hours
For a while I was playing BG3 a lot, or other single player RPGs at the time, ofc.
CS2, lots of that lately.
for the next 2 weeks or we it takes us to kill it
But yeah pokemon and counterstrike for me ig
I recently edited a video for my client of pokemon nuzlock soullink
that looked so fun
they should give 2 more tokens to everyone
be fair
i think the biggest issue here is
people who used a token on a mythic boss
even if they get extra tokens
they cant rekill it
I agree
It’s stupid if they do it this way
Doesn’t matter
Can still get a dupe next week ye
Worst Case they are neutral with the new Rolls best case they are up 2 Items and got the items they needed
like you can still get the same item u got this week next week, if what i saw people say is true
Hey guys, did you tested to take the Circle of Heavens VS Circle of Wild (Boom VS Cat) and use Boom only ?
what does a resto druid that didnt kill crown yet / weont kill crown roll
other than chim
Worst case you get a dupe and youre actually delayed a week unless you roll something else
dungeons
basically the 2 rolls you did before 23rd april in the morning don't count and the items you got back can be rolled again
Since you can only kill once
Imo give everyone 2 Rolls or don’t give Rolls
We really want to make this right as best we can, so we’re going to refund every Nebulous Voidcore that was spent before we fixed the issue. We’re identifying every player-character who spent a Nebulous Voidcore before the fix and in the next day or so, we will grant them back to you in-game.
Will I get a refund for getting duplicate myth chest even if I have it (not from roll ofc, but I still had it)
only the items from the rolls are dupe-protected
afaik
you can get dupes from items u had from drops or vault
thats intended
isn't it lazy way to implement bonus rolls? i shouldn't get any duplicates at all cases tbh
If you used your one/two rolls BEFORE the fix, you get one/two cores back
this is a 2 week charging currency...
Or 3
sure, i think bonus loots suck
too easy to get gear, they shouldve been like mop coins
Its pretty op tbh
just a chance
I had myth track chest, and when i rolled on dreamrift mythic, i got another chest token, like wtf is this
it incentivizes some weird strategies
i feel robbed tbh
They could've just not had dupe protection and it still would've been fine
the only thing i think sucks about the system is that it shoudn't award you items you already had. if you already had a TIER chest and rolled on chim, you shoudn't be able to get a myth tier chest again
Exploit early and often, and bug abuse early and often
sorry for posting one more time (last I promise) any other recommendations for 17 keys?
even if the bug is bad for you
everyone that bug abused in TWW got either more than an avg person
cuz i was holding my cons
or more
Maybe they change some stuff After getting feedback
Cause Lots of people disagree
With the way the handle it
Lots of people just get 2 free mythic items with that „fix“
yea lol
Loads of people will get 0 free mythic items, because this fix DOES allow you to re-roll (duplicates) of the items they got on wednesday with this fix
Maybe they just end up giving everyone
I also read somewhere you can get bonus roll from weekly vault vendor if you chose that 6 currencies you get when you have shit vault
Exactly let me explain this to you, worst Case you are NEUTRAL best case You’re up 2 Items
Does anyone know about that?
you are correct
the thing is that for most people it'll be the Worst-case. only few people will get the upside
No
That’s not how it works what
That not how % Chance work
The ods of getting a Upside is way way higher
Unless you are one of the duplicate persons
But the Majority got no duplicates
the people who got very lucky with their rolls will get more items, if you rolled a Mythic alnseer before the fix, you're not going to roll on chimaerus again and you're up 2 items.
but if you did not for example get a mythic alnseer from chimaerus before the fix, you're going to be rolling again, and you will be able to get a duplicate of the for example offhand AGAIN
Feelsbadman
Would anyone be able to look at a log and give advice in what I coulda done better?
I got a staff and a crit/haste ring from NPX, they're NOT REMOVED FROM MY DUPLICATE POOL. if i walk up to NPX, i will be able to get another Crit/Haste ring of another staff, even 3 weeks from now
okay so you the chance if you have 1 out of 4 items just getting a free item that is not a duplicate is 3 out of 4 and you say MOST PEOPLE get the duplicate?
you either drunk
We really want to make this right as best we can, so we’re going to refund every Nebulous Voidcore that was spent before we fixed the issue.
--> does this mean i get them back even if i didnt roll a duplicate?
or troll
Start with wow analyzer
the chance of getting duplicates is in every single scenario lower then getting a new piece
tysm I was trying to remember what this site was called!
i see that, but most people will be neutral
because they will get a duplicate NEXT WEEK
no, i have 0/4 items in the dupe protection
But no one cares about the dupe protection
in that case
you still have a 3/4 chance
people that rolled early still get benefits
you legit only have positives
i mean ye there is a chance for a duplicate but also a higher for another free item
and its major benefits
go ahead
So the refund is only for those rolled in m+, right?
no everyone that rolled on first day basically
Do I get a refund if I had duplicate in raid?
you cant have duplicate in raid
do we know when do we get them?
but you get refund
But I did
it doesn't count as a duplicate just because you already had the item
its also not based of duplicates its based of if you rolled first day or not
You can only roll once
it's only a duplicate if you already had the item from a bonus roll
How could you get a duplicator
bonus roll loot table is a own loot table basically
oh m+ logs idk
looks pretty duplicate to me
The time the tank died that was due to me telling people to use defensives if they get riftstalker bleed with portal overlap
if you have items of the boss/dungeon you roll you can get items you have already
Both are from bonus roll?
it doesn't count as a duplicate just because you already had the item
It doesnt look at what u got only what u bonus rolled
one has + on it
well ofc not, it is one bonus roll giving duplicate to item from before bonus rtoll
but it is still a scam imo
eu coin refunds out yet?
you died from chains damage, are you shapeshifting it to remove it?
Getting tier is full shamble pretty much
none of the rolls spend in the first day of the system being live are added to the dupe-protection pool, as said by blizzard here: https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/bonus-rolls-–-what-happened-and-next-steps/2296587
if you're going at worst-luck scenario in the chimaerus example, you got a mythic tier chest this week, and next week you're getting another mythic tier chest, the week after you're getting an offhand, the week after you're getting a belt, and in 4 weeks you're getting alnseer.
Someone who did not spend their reroll before the thing on Chimaerus and rolls this weekend witht he same rng will get them a myth chest this week, offhand next week, in 2 weeks they're getting the belt and in 3 weeks they're getting alnseer, this person has a advantage because they're getting their alnseer a week earlier
the only advantage that the affected player gets is a single dawncrystal/100g for their effort
Hello! We want to follow up on our previous post about issues we encountered with the new Voidforge bonus roll system. The Voidforge system is a brand new system using new tech that enables players to earn their desired myth track gear utilizing a bonus roll currency called Nebulous Voidcores to improve the player experience of gearing during S...
Wow players just wanna complain man anything blizzard does yall woulda found an angle to complain about it
That is an astronomical number of Rejuv casts. You’re leaning way too heavily into it.
Just spamming Rejuv is not the way to “keep up.”
no
you legit only have positives with the new addes bonus rolls
that you dont see it
Was trying to keep up with the portal overlap
are you lost?
Felt like if I didnt have it up people were flopping, I think I was playing around them not hitting defensives
Shift to cat or bear just before the cast goes off and then you can immediately cast.
it's mindbogging that you're too blind to see that none of the rolls used before the fix were added to the dupe protection system
and that you're pouting
thanks for the detailed explanation
I usually do but healing through it usually isnt too bad if we didnt pull those 2 together, I generally cast f. regen for it or am initally in cat and go out
If that’s the case, you need to play correctly. Getting 4-6 rejuvs out (SotF alone gets you 3) then leveraging Abundance to cast multiple Regrowths will do much more healing than what you’re doing.
They said "it was possible for the roll data to sometimes save to the wrong database", not like "all of the rolls on day 1 saved to the wrong database"
so there's still hope!!
even if you did not get duplicates, chances are you're still affected in that way, it's a database diff, the game was writing to the wrong database
@flint void let me explain this to you
Person 1
Rolled twice m+ got 2 random items chest + ring out of 7 items so you have 2 out of 7 without any knockoff from loot pool
they get 2 new rolls and can POTENTIALLY get 2 other items which is likely to be a different items lets say offhand and cloak you have 4 items out of 7 and 2 are knocked off
getting other items is 5/7 compared to getting the same 2/7
Person 2 didnt roll early
rolled on second day and got off hand on cloak both people have knocked off 2 items and one person got 4 items and the potential of getting the items you actually want is way higher for person 1 cause person got 2 full sets of gambling
Pressing Rejuv while the burst damage event is ongoing is not playing around anything, it's just wrong
if you cant see this beeing a huge advantage
Spothealing during damage, Rejuv before damage / in between
and the odds of having a advantage being way higher then being neutral
you are delusional
must be really good at gambling to get an alnseer from m+
Alluneve is correct. He is not talking about M+, but about raidbosses you can only kill once
^
but even for raidboss
"no but even for a raidboss", i'm correct. the person who rolled it on a raidboss yesterday will in worst rng, only get their item a week after person not affected
Worst case, you can recieve gaze in week 21 instead of week 20.
KERMYYYY
you still get 2 free items
This is crazy man blizzard is giving people the highest availability of myth items of any season and it's somehow a complaining angle
Just gettingg insane amounts of items
you get one free item that you will get a duplicate off anyways next week
The only problem is
well the complain is
people that looted on tuesday 2 items will loot 2 more items tomorrow




