#resto

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rotund geode
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we want the heart no?

abstract tulip
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the heart is good

dry valve
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why is everyone going fluid form in keys 🤔

thorn plover
main timber
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There's some tech where you use it to remove debuffs

neat lintel
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Do I have decent resto trinkets?

main timber
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Other than that not sure

dry valve
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i read that when searching the chat but wasnt sure

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was like... that sounds degen

grand herald
neat lintel
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all heroic 😄

rocky lodge
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oh yes sorry heart of wind not ember

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is heart of wind what we’re going for, for myth?

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i currently have hero gaze and glorious crusaders

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i have hero litany but qelive said crusaders is better

covert bramble
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Would you craft haste/mastery neck or pick this one?

thorn plover
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thats decent

abstract tulip
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in a pug chim wish me luck! ❤️

true jungle
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so I just had our first night of pulls on paladins

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apex on those heal absorbs is so much fun

lyric surge
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oh yeah

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I broke our pres' brain with it

true jungle
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that was our last pull of the night, got it to 31%

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apex is 20% of my overall

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I assumed it would be worse than it was tbh, we did like 100 pulls on beloren before trying paladins due to some people being out for the week

abstract tulip
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yeah apex is great

lyric surge
abstract tulip
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wow 200 hps is awesome i think ive only ever been like 145

rustic copper
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play the good build

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do the basics

thorn plover
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yeah its a fun fight

rustic copper
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easy 99 parse

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at lesat

true jungle
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best one for the night

thorn plover
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this was my best pull last night lol

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we just started prog on it yesterday

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its fun when details shows 400k hps

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idc if that shits fake

true jungle
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lol yeah

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I got up to like 360k at one point tonight

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was cool af lol

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our priest got salty after raid

thorn plover
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where my monks at

true jungle
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I wonder when this tts stuff is gonna get fixed

thorn plover
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its fixed

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update your game

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full restart battle net

true jungle
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well look at that

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did I play all night staring at my frames for no reason?

thorn plover
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2 hours ago it got pushed

tough portal
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I spy with my little eye

true jungle
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he's a huge taylor swift fan lol

marsh prism
thorn plover
neat lintel
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I am currently playing guardian on 17 keys, boomkin on 16 keys. Wanna try out resto. Are 10s good place to start practicing? Would you try healing in 15 keys or would it be griefing 😄

marsh prism
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dont garf me garf them

thorn plover
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if i could

ornate pollen
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man, gave all the other healers grey logs on my chim M kill and still had 40% overhealing :/

neat lintel
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I checked m+ build on wowhead and it doesn't have cat spells. is catweaving outdated? Do we dps as moonkin instead nowadays (because the build has starsurge etc)

thorn plover
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yes

neat lintel
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which guide is most up to date? i saw some arakara example on wowhead guide

thorn plover
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wowhead

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icyveins

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both the same

marsh prism
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ignore metric

plain steeple
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You will always have around 60-80k hps overheal only on yourself in raid.

rustic copper
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Stack mastery?

ornate pollen
marsh prism
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no

thorn plover
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push regrowth

marsh prism
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be real

thorn plover
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your swiftmend cpm is low too

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2 convokes in 6:30

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2.2cpm of pushing wrath

marsh prism
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you absolutely have enough knowledge and resources to know how to improve your already orange parse (being concerned with cohealer greys and overhealing as a metric)

tough portal
marsh prism
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yeah

tough portal
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Yall getting gaslit

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By people that dont stand by the shit they say man

marsh prism
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not really interested in entertaining that

rustic copper
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???

tough portal
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If you're gonna drop Cenarius Guidance to enable Nature's Bounty more

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You have to cast twice as many Regrowths as that @ornate pollen

ornate pollen
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yea, makes sense, thanks face

neat lintel
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I am reading wildstalker talents. decent amount of talents there buff cat abilities. Do we just ignore them and take those talents for healing effects?

thorn plover
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yes we take wildstalker for healing

neat lintel
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Also how do we deal damage as boomkin? do we actually shift into moonkin form to benefit from 10% spell damage? Or is it common to cast moonkin spells on humanoid (or tree) form?

abstract tulip
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bonus rolling on chim is so risky, i have a crafted belt, we dont need teir chest, dont need an offhand.... its just a trinket

thorn plover
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stay in caster form, no boomkin

marsh prism
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in no content do we actually go into moonkin form

marsh prism
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guess how i know

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-.-

abstract tulip
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hahaha

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but i gess if we kill it on mythic.. i kind of have to bonus roll right?... right?

tough portal
abstract tulip
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yeah but i dont need any of the items except the trinket

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so it feels bad

marsh prism
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no one does

tough portal
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You could spend another talent on Fluid Form and shift automatically, that costs a talent that buffs your healing (or Ursine Vigor)

marsh prism
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we are all in this together

abstract tulip
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haha yes hold my hand!

tough portal
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Which is fine, not the end of the world, but it's a small DPS gain to begin with

true jungle
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Wouldn't we want to eventually use the offhand with a crafted 1h?

thorn plover
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how much is livliness worth

true jungle
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Little ilvl gain

abstract tulip
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but i already crafted the 2 hand weapon

thorn plover
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why would you use it with crafted 1h

abstract tulip
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so feels wastful

marsh prism
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embel

thorn plover
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isnt 2 arcanoweave better

marsh prism
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no idea if worth just thats why

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no clue, could be

true jungle
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Yeah i have a 2h with embel currently

tough portal
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With beloren dagger you could

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But thats no better than just any of the 3 haste mastery staves from M+ either

marsh prism
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what does the chimerus offhand vendor for i guess is the real question

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or disenchant

tough portal
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I think DE

trim bluff
thorn plover
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that is cursed

marsh prism
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let's start here

thorn plover
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thats the only talent they have correct

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😏

marsh prism
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you are weak

thorn plover
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lol

trim bluff
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THIS IS KEEPR

thorn plover
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that doesnt change it being cursed

onyx trail
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prosperity is giga comfy

tough portal
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KOTG Imp Swiftmend I would never use VI, the Swiftmend actually chunks people up with those 2

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Prosp all day

trim bluff
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ya that checks out

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DREAM OF CEN is a simtrap surely

neat lintel
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Secret tech: Blooming Infusion can be gamed by pairing Nature's Bounty with Rampant Growth and you alternate Regrowth with Starfire while maintaining Lifebloom. This is a ~25% DPS gain on the Starfires.
This part is not for m+ I assume? Since for m+ wildstalker is recommended and Blooming Infusion seems to be kotg talent

plain steeple
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This is a dps tech for m+

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Not recommended if you want to maximize your healing output.

neat lintel
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I see

marsh prism
neat lintel
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For bear/boomkin it is recommended to use top gear sim while deciding between items. For healing does it also work good? Should I use QE Live thing instead?

pulsar kettle
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prosp > vi

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shrimple.

marsh prism
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make sure for keys you use the dungeon mode

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picker in top right

thorn plover
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this vigil CDM looks sweet but idk if i wanna take the time to set it up lol

tough portal
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I'm using ayije CDM, very nice

neat lintel
thorn plover
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im still using arcui

covert bramble
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Caster dps. Is it a buff to go moonkin? You loose 6% haste + 4% magic damage? Is it worth the 10 percent from moonkin. Or you do it just for the offensive convoke?

tough portal
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More limited than Arc ofc but it doesnt randomly reorder my shit

marsh prism
thorn plover
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yeah that still randomly happens lol

marsh prism
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heal convoke or cat, and cat to hotw

tough portal
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+1 to what nance said

marsh prism
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+1 to what face said

tough portal
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Just save Convoke for healing

thorn plover
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im not doing anything advanced with arcui anymore is why i was considering switching

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early days of lifebloom alert relied on it

neat lintel
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I am very excited, I will heal my first key this season 😄

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Keep someone (mostly the tank) on lifebloom
Cast swiftmend and wild growth on cd
Complement with regrowth

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How hard can it be

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On top of that we have convoke and tranq

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In before I try to dps without mastering healing and let people die

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Damaging is really complementary right?

tough portal
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Yeah the spec is OP mate just cast Swiftmend on CD and assess SOTF use

neat lintel
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I should probably not worry about dps much atm

gentle nova
marsh prism
gentle nova
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wtf do i do

rugged lodge
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Is KotG the new m+ Meta over WS?

gentle nova
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this shit is good bro

neat lintel
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Since I played other roles I am already familiar with tank busters etc. that should help

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I am not sure I understood how to use hotw in dungeons. I want to just cat hotw prio targets? Is moonkin hotw bad?

lament river
neat lintel
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also does this look sketchy? so many bear gems/enchants

rustic fern
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You guys really don’t see the vision of dream of cenarius in keys. It’s not just dps tech, it does insane healing with multiple targets to hit

sudden goblet
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For M+ are ppl switching to away from ND and taking HB? Based on archeon ...

marsh prism
rustic fern
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No

marsh prism
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ok.

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can't argue with that.

pulsar kettle
rustic fern
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I’ve pulled 100-120k dps during call of the elder Druid. Most of it star fire

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At a 150% conversion that’s 150k hps plus all your hots keep ticking

abstract tulip
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we killed the boss! i bonus rolled a belt 🙁 but i have the crafted belt

rustic fern
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Your boss healing is worse if it doesn’t have adds I will definitely grant you that, but on packs it’s more healing than tranq on a 1m cd

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And you do a lot of damage so pack dies fast

pulsar kettle
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thats great

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not sure where this is coming from

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did you join the cord just to strike up this discussion or

abstract tulip
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wow a green parse, are guilds 3 healing chim? i did 120k hps which is pretty good for me

gentle nova
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no

abstract tulip
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ah

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im just tryin to get better parse so people will invite me to groups haha

tough portal
marsh prism
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not a great time to do that i'm afraid. they kind of shot healing in general

gentle nova
tough portal
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Like by all means knock yourself out with DOC and doing more damage bro

pulsar kettle
plain steeple
pulsar kettle
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blue parse will get you invites np

tough portal
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But you cant just act like it doesnt nerf your healing potential when you're healing stuff

abstract tulip
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im just tryin to hang in there 🙂

plain steeple
tough portal
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I need to pug that but fuck man it's impossible to get invites alone

pulsar kettle
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did it in 4 pulls with a half guild/half pug raid

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fight is a joke man

marsh prism
lament river
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Is there a a addon that reminds me of MOTW and SR?

gentle nova
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chimaeurs?

abstract tulip
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the pug i went into says they do it every week at the same time

marsh prism
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yeah?

gentle nova
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she asked if ppl are 3 healing u said yes

marsh prism
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yeah, i did

gentle nova
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mythic chim 3 heal?

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wtf

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show a log

abstract tulip
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how do you decide which side solo heals?

marsh prism
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squint

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bro just search on wclogs

half oasis
gentle nova
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lmao

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no wonder

ornate pollen
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is prosperity with kotg a meme in keys? felt kinda ok

pulsar kettle
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its all a meme propped up on bugs

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yes

marsh prism
limpid jacinth
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Kotg in keys is a meme

ornate pollen
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I really hate playing kotg

gentle nova
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the rank1 druid 3 healed

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fake ass logs

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bro

abstract tulip
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lol

gentle nova
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okay sure but 120k is low

abstract tulip
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thats the problem with healing parses

gentle nova
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press more regrowth

pulsar kettle
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theres nothing to heal

abstract tulip
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well for me 120 is high 🙂

pulsar kettle
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if u have 4 healers with hands

gentle nova
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even then press rg asnd u will get like 150k

marsh prism
abstract tulip
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let me look at the log maybe i didnt do bad who knows but it says green parse

proven phoenix
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I think even if there is nothing to heal, if you are the best healer in the raid you can probably do the most haeling

limpid jacinth
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yall don’t play with your feet?

proven phoenix
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obviously you arent really going to be doing 200k hps on chimaerus without some shenanigans afoot

gentle nova
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especially druid

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rn

proven phoenix
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but you can easily do 150kish

pulsar kettle
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idk i did 165ish in a pug

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literally felt like i was just slamming my face into the keyboard with zero thought

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easier than heroic

gentle nova
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yep

plain steeple
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Pug = 3 healers having grey logs

pulsar kettle
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they all parsed green

thorn whale
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Alright Mattiu I’m awake

pulsar kettle
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theres literally 0 damage in that fight man

thorn whale
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Show me what abomination you ended up on

plain steeple
gentle nova
pulsar kettle
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shruge

gentle nova
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if i was on lura maybe it would be good

pulsar kettle
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i timed sotf/convoke for absorbs

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stole all the healing

gentle nova
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but i regressed to aleria

pulsar kettle
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otherwise on autopilot

abstract tulip
gentle nova
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show the log

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not wowanal

abstract tulip
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is it the cpm?

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okay hold on

gentle nova
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yup

abstract tulip
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the cpm was 7

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i think thats pertty good

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this was my pug i did today no guildies

gentle nova
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no thats bad

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press more

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like spam it

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even if ppl are 100%

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get to 20

abstract tulip
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thats what ill work on next

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ive been using the swiftmend followed by rejvu a lot

gentle nova
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yeah keep that

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and then

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press rg

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on diff targets yeah

lament river
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We still play WS in keys right? Can see on murlock some are KOTG

proven phoenix
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play ws

high hawk
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anyone know how to fix grid from showing raid buffs/debuffs?

thorn whale
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@gentle nova is the new grid expert

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Also why does my mcdonald open at 8am when I for once in my life want a coffee from there

neat lintel
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just completed my 1st dungeon this season as healer

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it was too easy lol

abstract tulip
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grats!

neat lintel
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10s are so easy after all, didn't expect any worse tbh

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I wanna try healing 15 but i don't wanna grief

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tyty

abstract tulip
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10's stressfree

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try a 13 1st

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10 is easy a 13 is punishing

neat lintel
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only problem I had was on key 3 I had regrowth historically, placed starsurge in there and I was constantly trying to damage when I wanted to heal

abstract tulip
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i havnt done ANY keys this week actually ive been slacking

neat lintel
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I should review my keybindings lol

abstract tulip
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i use the mouse wheel to dps i just roll it up/down

neat lintel
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makes sense

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does that look scuffed

abstract tulip
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do you have the mouse wheel keybound yet?

neat lintel
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I use camera zoom in out

abstract tulip
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i hold ctrl to zoom in/out with mouse wheel

neat lintel
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on other specs too (bear boomkin) I never assigned abilities on scroll tbh

mint rampart
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with the apex changes and running wildstalker do we always SM LB target then?

neat lintel
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I am still not sure how to utilize hotw btw, guides don't say much about it, no?

neat lintel
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cat + frenzy or boomkin?

mint rampart
thorn whale
neat lintel
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When I play bear, I use rake (with fluid form talent) hotw then back to bear with mangle

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I guess as resto you just manually cast cat form then hotw?

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I can’t rake coz m+ build I use (from wowhead) doesn’t have it (has moonkin spells)

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Though I guess it’s too min-maxy to cast rake to go cat

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Damage is probably negligible

sour flint
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Why isn't there craft options and trinkets and all other things showing like for balance druid on dreamgrove.gg?

neat lintel
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Have you tried wowhead?

languid plume
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Use QE for crafts and trinkets

abstract tulip
tender grove
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are we changing any talents now in 12.0.5 or still kinda the same for m+ ?

sour flint
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Trinkets Locus-Walker's Ribbon Locus-Walker's Ribbon Crown of the Cosmos (Raid)
Trinkets Vaelgor's Final Stare Vaelgor's Final Stare

They say t hese are 2 best

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Trinkets

abstract tulip
neat lintel
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Locus is best for raid I guess

sour flint
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Damn I have both

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Mythic Vaelgor stare

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And Locus Hc

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Thats nice

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I need to reroll for one of the bosses from boomkie and its gonna be tough to learn all

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:S

neat lintel
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For m+ qe suggested me heart of wind

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With alnseer

sour flint
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I got that to nice

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What is stat prio for resto?

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Haste mastery?

gentle nova
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How the fuck this dude did 220k on alleria

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Im at 200 barely

abstract tulip
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maybe they pushed more than just regrowth

gentle nova
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Nop he in fact pushed rg

pliant sentinel
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Can someone explain how the Apex talent works?
My Lifebloom uptime is good, but my Apex healing is lower than other druids.

sour flint
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How hard is it going to be swapping to restro druid if you never played it in ur life but you played boomkie?

gentle nova
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Very hard

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Its the hardest spec in the game

abstract tulip
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im gonna try to push more regrowths next raid thats my new goal

sour flint
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Do you think Gaze is better for resto on Mythic Paladins or Locus?

gentle nova
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Use both

sour flint
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What about Vaelgor?

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I have all 3

plain steeple
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150%

gentle nova
sour flint
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But It might be good to pump the absorb heals

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?

gentle nova
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Do you know the formula for symb blooms procs

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20% on top of it does nothing

sour flint
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So its gaze locus or gaze Void suffuser

gentle nova
gentle nova
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Are you taking all the absorbs

pliant sentinel
pliant sentinel
high mountain
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How do you guys know when to start rg and when to stop to rejuv again ?

gentle nova
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When you take the absorbs you prio heal yourself

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Then others

pliant sentinel
gentle nova
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With all the hots you will do a lot of hps

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I have a vod of me healing paladins if you want

plain steeple
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Then press Regrowth.

pliant sentinel
gentle nova
abstract tulip
neat lintel
gentle nova
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I have a cast tracker

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Check my casts and shit

tough portal
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Your sound sounds weird

gentle nova
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I played pretty decently

tough portal
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On stream

gentle nova
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Wdym

tough portal
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Idk how to explain

gentle nova
tough portal
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Your music sounds normal

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Your game sound is like echo-y or distant or idk

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It's weird

pliant sentinel
abstract tulip
tough portal
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Idk very confident?!

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Why do you ask

gentle nova
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You want to extend your hots for your rg window to be longer

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If you press it for damage its bas

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Bad

abstract tulip
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this opens my brain to a whole new way to think about it

gentle nova
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Mid fight it will catch some damage

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But the early pull tranq has to be preemptively

abstract tulip
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also no one is standing in your green circle you are too far away from your friends

gentle nova
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Itll also make you recover like 20% mana

thorn plover
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Called out

gentle nova
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Yeah thats whatever

abstract tulip
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haha

gentle nova
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Id rather not move and spam rg more

abstract tulip
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its okay im normally staring at a wall...

gentle nova
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The more you move the less you are casting

rustic copper
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Full uptime

plain rampart
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are the bonus items still getting dupplicated?

slender gust
abstract tulip
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well thank you for sharing your video

rustic copper
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You can maintain a lot of hots just using swiftmend

rustic copper
high mountain
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So you wanna always regrowth within 8 to 12+ abundance stack right ? if my stacks falls under 8 do i build up back to 8 or do i go higher to give me more time to spam ?

rustic copper
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Opens up the gcds for the good spell

thorn plover
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Sotf rejuv basically holds you at 8

sour flint
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Can someone help me set up some raid frames n shit

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For resto pls?

abstract tulip
slender gust
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I’m almost thinking I want to make a dedicated Swiftmend @ self bind for raid

gentle nova
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Dont get to 12 always

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You will oom

worn marsh
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Oh okay i think i am trying too hard to get 12 stacks

gentle nova
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Check the vod i posted, the rg spam gameplay is pretty decently played

cunning atlas
thorn plover
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regrowth is crazy cheap to cast

gentle nova
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You can see my abundance stacks

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Andmy casts

thorn plover
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youre over thinking it if youre trying to maintain 12

abstract tulip
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so im guessing i need more haste i think im at 30 something %

rustic copper
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I do not look at my abundance stacks

gentle nova
gentle nova
rustic copper
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There is no point

thorn plover
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same, its just what it is

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and i end up average 8-10

gentle nova
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But you need a headliner for news

rustic copper
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I’m busy looking for other things

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Real

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If I had public logs avg stacks would be that

abstract tulip
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scroll up like 5 minutes

neat lintel
thorn plover
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search bar from:mattiu in:resto has:link

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ez

rustic copper
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Not a bug

thorn plover
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its only removed from the loot pool once you use a token on it

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not on stuff you got before

rustic copper
abstract tulip
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ill try the regrowth spam sometime i think we are doing a pug raid tomorrow

reef holly
thorn plover
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this doesnt mean hang out around 4 stacks, its just showing that casting regrowth will not make you go oom

rustic copper
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So once I have 4 stacks stop pressing rejuv hmmmm_noted

thorn plover
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yes

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now you understand

neat lintel
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for m+, do i wanna have rejuv on all 5 at all times or is that an easy way to go oom

gentle nova
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i try

gentle nova
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i pandemic my rejuvs

rustic copper
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I was kinda locked in tonight

limpid jacinth
rustic copper
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I’m pretty sure with the rejuv recycling I won’t go oom

neat lintel
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keep lifebloom active at all times, wild growth/swiftmend on cooldown, and when do i exactly use rejuv in m+? when i expect damage on my target?

reef holly
rustic copper
waxen ingot
rustic copper
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I will play the talent that does more healing

waxen ingot
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#2 you want to snipe healing

thorn plover
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mana talent is pointless

rustic copper
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And simply play better instead of going oom

neat lintel
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ye it says it's fine to hold wg

rustic copper
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🤯

waxen ingot
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if there is no dmg

reef holly
waxen ingot
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click dps buttons

sacred wasp
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what is dw

abstract tulip
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can i have a raidleader as calm as yours @gentle nova

neat lintel
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yeah tbh i healed a 10 to test healing, most of the time nothing was going on so I casted starfire on packs lol

limpid jacinth
#

there’s a lot of that

exotic hinge
#

It's me or i just see everyone switch to wildstalker in raid ?

neat lintel
#

mattiu looks like that meme guy pushing buttons with ambition

gentle nova
#

the im on a payphone meme?

#

rdruid literally is that

waxen ingot
#

just you twin

#

im joking yes WS is more healing

gentle nova
#

POV me playing druid

gentle nova
#

😂

limpid jacinth
#

resto in keys is the other guy singing

neat lintel
#

you are just not sweaty that's all 😄

gentle nova
rustic copper
#

Rdruid can be either

neat lintel
#

tbh that 10 key was so chill, i am scared to try healing 15 keys

rustic copper
#

You can just press random spells tab out and be fine

neat lintel
#

i don't want that chill healing experience to be ruined for me

neat lintel
#

is resto really that good

gentle nova
#

yeah

neat lintel
#

i like the idea that it is hard to master but very rewarding with very little at the same time

reef holly
#

Yes by far the best Specc, always has been

neat lintel
#

I read all the talents for sake of having a clue (and maybe remember some abbreviations) and there are so many different interactions between spells

limpid jacinth
neat lintel
#

synergy between offensive spells and healing spells too

gentle nova
#

you can do decent with not much effort

#

if you wanna do insane hps then its hard

abstract tulip
#

swiftmend the tank in keys *

plain steeple
abstract tulip
#

m+ is way easier bc theres no other healer stealing your heals. you just tell the dps to wait, the heals are coming. you heal over time

gentle nova
#

i think alleria is harder than beloren

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theres no way

tulip nexus
#

rdruid in m+ is peak

rustic copper
boreal karma
#

Average pullcount is like 40-60 higher on beloren

gentle nova
#

cause wipes are faster

#

not 8 mins in

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beloren felt piss idk

#

you kill it 1 pull after you reach egg 2

neat lintel
boreal karma
#

And Lets just say

#

They lost like 40-50 wr with that

gentle nova
#

lmao

boreal karma
#

Maybe they catch up on luura

#

But Right now they are down 40-50 Ranks

mint rampart
#

is boomkin more dmg in M+ now with the change?

gentle nova
#

gg

boreal karma
gentle nova
#

belo is more fun

neat lintel
#

Tbh I like that change. Catweaving feels awkward. Boomkin spells are easier to cast in humanoid form

gentle nova
#

i hate dance bosses

boreal karma
#

That might be true

reef holly
neat lintel
#

You lose 10% dmg though but I guess people don’t care about dps that much as healer

gentle nova
#

and its all on yourself

#

when a healing absorb jumps on me on cosmos

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i go up 100k hps

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and clear it in 2 globals

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rofl

neat lintel
#

Mattiu do you do keys

thorn plover
gentle nova
#

only when im bored

neat lintel
#

I should checkout your channels if so

neat lintel
tulip nexus
thorn plover
#

Lycaras

boreal karma
sly pivot
boreal karma
gentle nova
#

i hate when i spam 3 globals on absorbs and then they get insta dispeled

reef holly
gentle nova
#

its not the healers

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its the warlocks

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they get scared

neat lintel
#

one thing i feel weird as healer is that, sometimes actually not sometimes, maybe all the time you heal when there is no need to heal. like, people are full hp, people are still healing. you get higher on ranks this way. never understood that. shouldn't overheal be factored out when deciding who actually did necessary healing?

tulip nexus
boreal karma
sly pivot
gentle nova
exotic hinge
#

Why lifebloom on myself btw in raid? I thought it was on someone where a lot of people are in it

neat lintel
gentle nova
#

but when you keep healing even if theres no damage as druid you increase your hps throughput for when you need the healing

abstract tulip
boreal karma
abstract tulip
gentle nova
#

thats a minimal reason but yeah

exotic hinge
#

Hum ok

gentle nova
#

the main reason is you got perma 24% healing increase on yourself, and potential 20%+ from barkskin

#

so the apex splashes are stronger

neat lintel
abstract tulip
#

Ah the math answer! ^^

exotic hinge
#

Ahhhhh ok

neat lintel
#

any improvements on this build? (I copied from wowhead m+ ws build)

gentle nova
#

dump ursine for lycaras if u want more dam

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otherwise its fine

abstract tulip
#

Goodnight ty for all the tips. Thanks for sharing your video I enjoyed it

primal jungle
#

VAL did i tell u i got a baby daughter

boreal karma
#

Most people can drop Incap roar they don’t have it on their Bars Even

abstract tulip
#

Rooot I’m going to sleeeeppp

primal jungle
#

Goodnight

gentle nova
#

gnight

neat lintel
#

well i don't expect to go into bear form often if i am healing right. right? So I'll take lycara bottom one (magic dmg)

tough portal
abstract tulip
#

Plus children are gross! But grats

#

Keep them alive

primal jungle
#

I'm tired in Hawaii anyone still awake in the mainland is fkn nuts

gentle nova
#

rofl

tough portal
#

That doesnt mean they should drop the talents lol they should just use it

boreal karma
primal jungle
#

theres that nurtering spirit that shows up in your logs

neat lintel
tough portal
#

Naenia is trolling

#

Very sus individual lately

boreal karma
#

Also only needed in very few keys

tulip nexus
gentle nova
#

why not

high hawk
#

anyone know how to fix grid from showing raid buffs/debuffs?

gentle nova
#

unless youre doing 25s or some shit

forest citrus
#

anyone try the elder + dream of cenarius build? any good as WS? better as kotg? fake build?

waxen ingot
neat lintel
#

also i want to have 1 minute stampeding roar, what can i drop?

gentle nova
#

its good

waxen ingot
#

Also if my read lead spoke like yours

#

i would lose my mind

abstract tulip
#

More time for him to regrowth!

gentle nova
#

why lmao

boreal karma
#

If Even

gentle nova
#

too calm?

abstract tulip
#

I love his raid leader!!

gentle nova
#

i love him too

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lmao

#

makes me play better tbh

waxen ingot
#

He tries so hard to sound like a robot / weak aura

abstract tulip
#

Mine is screaming and freaking out

gentle nova
#

yeah freaking out as rl sucks

#

i freak out as they freak out

abstract tulip
#

Exactly

gentle nova
#

or getting mad mid pull

neat lintel
#

i dunno our rl is pretty chill too

#

just forgets the icon on memory game sometimes

abstract tulip
#

I think my rl streams.. but no one watches.. maybe there’s a clip somewhere

tulip nexus
# gentle nova why not

because there's way weaker talents, he for example has 2 points in matted fur which can easily be replaced

gentle nova
#

you cant trade matted fur for ursine tho

tulip nexus
#

im just resil 17 but bear has saved me many times already at 16-18 range

gentle nova
#

sure but did vigor save u?

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that bear alone wouldnt have

tulip nexus
#

and will do it even more in higher keys

waxen ingot
#

But what do you take instead of CG

gentle nova
#

tf is cg

waxen ingot
#

2 min conwoke

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well 1 min

tulip nexus
#

you cant tell me 1 point in matted fur is stronger than ursine as a defensive

gentle nova
#

1 more tv

gentle nova
#

you cant go down if you drop 1 matted fur

neat lintel
tulip nexus
#

oh

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my bad on that then

#

misunderstood

gentle nova
#

this row is full

tulip nexus
#

but idk

boreal karma
gentle nova
#

these are the interchangeables

boreal karma
#

Not overheal

tulip nexus
#

I haven't seen any of the highest rated rdruids not use ursine

abstract tulip
#

He streams with no discord sound?! Ahh I can’t show u

neat lintel
tulip nexus
#

and its very strong from my own experience aswell

gentle nova
#

i think so yeah?

#

okay but for example

#

what do you bear form

#

a big hit no

#

?

tough portal
# boreal karma Maybe 3 Keys Where incap is needed

Are you talking to people playing in good enough groups that the other 4 players cover all the control needed or talking to people that are too bad to even press Incap Roar when it would be helpful? And these people are getting a lot of mileage out of 4% magic damage are they?

gentle nova
#

u gotta ask yourself did 15% on top of 20% of bear form really did anything

tulip nexus
#

it does

gentle nova
#

did it

tough portal
#

More EHP isnt meaningless if the damage wouldnt one shot you
It's still gonna get you out of bear form at a higher hp %

waxen ingot
tough portal
#

It's practically a healing talent

gentle nova
#

i guess

#

but if you want the 4%

#

thats the talent u drop

tough portal
#

Like if you live a hit at 10%, with UV you live it at 25% so the talent did 60k healing

#

Yeah ofc

#

Sure

#

I would take Moonkin form more often than 4% magic damage tho

#

I mean Fluid form

#

It's close damage wise and it's nice to shift around without manually pressing shit on the snares

exotic hinge
#

I see ppl on raiderio taking keeper of the grove and playing the moonkin form

neat lintel
#

how does this look

abstract tulip
#

@primal jungle be my friend so discord lets me DM u

neat lintel
#

lol it's funny i just asked talent recommendations then people argue over that this long xD

gentle nova
#

not arguing

#

just bored

tulip nexus
gentle nova
#

and we always do this

tough portal
neat lintel
#

i intentionally picked 1 min stamp roar though, i really like it

#

I like incap roar too

#

i just dunno what else to drop

#

ursine vigor might be more relevant when i do 17-18 keys

#

currently 16 resi, started 17s just now

abstract tulip
#

You just healed a 10 for the first time and now you’re doing 17’s already?!

neat lintel
#

i just realized i completely forgot to cast symbio on my 10 mt run, not that it mattered much but still lol

abstract tulip
#

You must have lots of friends

neat lintel
#

lets say i am mentally preparing myself and my build for 17s 😄

abstract tulip
#

Maybe a troll who knows 🤷‍♀️

#

Ah

neat lintel
#

I mean I can run my own 16 key (to not grief others) and i still wanna be prepared the best way i can 😄

gentle nova
#

they have a bear on the pfp i guess they tank

abstract tulip
#

I stand in too many puddles to do 17’s

neat lintel
# gentle nova probably another spec

yeah i am playing bear when i push highest difficulty (17s) and boomkin when I do my resi level key (since it is my own key, i dont have to play tank)

abstract tulip
#

At least we don’t have to dodge rocks this season

gentle nova
#

what rocks

onyx trail
#

im about to start climbing on pres LOOK OUT EU LFG

gentle nova
#

blackrook hold

neat lintel
#

i liked dodging rocks on ravencrest dungeon

abstract tulip
#

And there was a raid boss with rocks

gentle nova
#

hugo

#

ok granpa

neat lintel
#

haha i am 34, can you tell

boreal karma
tulip nexus
neat lintel
#

seriously though i still dunno how to optimize my talents

onyx trail
gentle nova
#

they had a tv show here where ppl called and played hugo on tv with their phones and used the numbers as the arrows

#

was that a thing elsewhere

neat lintel
#

is there really no way to get stamp roar and incap roar? coz i wanna have oh shit button incap roar and stamp roar to close gap between tank and me while learning

boreal karma
neat lintel
#

there was a noticeable delay between buttons and actual effect too

gentle nova
#

ya

#

lmao

tulip nexus
#

you can drop symbiotic relationship or a point in forestwalk and its not gonna matter

#

if u really wanna keep roar cd reduction

neat lintel
#

actually we had the show banned because some turkish kid cussed at hugo on live TV saying "fuck hugo's p*ssy" lmao

#

like this?

tough portal
#

You can just travel/cat form to keep up with brewmasters bro ngl that is pretty pointless

#

Wild charge in no-form also

neat lintel
#

what if you are inside?

tough portal
#

I dont think 1 min roar is gonna be as useful as you're thinking

tough portal
#

Like Xenas for instance

fervent mica
#

you are very fast in general... imp roar is mostly good for slow dps to keep up

neat lintel
#

I dunno when i was doing that 10 today, pala was running like crazy (probably coz it was a 10) and i had moments i pushed stamp roar and it was on cd

#

maybe it is not that useful indeed

gentle nova
#

tiger dash my goat

tough portal
fervent mica
#

i usually love tiger... but this season is soo good for travel + wild charge

abstract tulip
neat lintel
#

yes i am, that is the #1 priority rn

tough portal
#

Ideally you'll be a bit more aware of tank positioning and following them without getting outranged

neat lintel
#

that is fair

tough portal
#

Friendly wild charge my goat

#

I love it

gentle nova
#

is that u

#

good edit

neat lintel
flint void
#

My risk paid off triple i think...
Bliz's blus post

it mentions.

8:05 p.m. PDT on Wednesday, April 22 (05:05 CEST April 23).

I did 2 rerolls Wednesday morning in NPX, latest at April 22 at 12:17 CEST & got a Staff and the Crit/haste ring.
so soon i'll get 2 more reroll tokens, so I can roll with Feral lootspec on NPX to get the staff that i now already own out of the lootpool

World of Warcraft Forums

Hello! We want to follow up on our previous post about issues we encountered with the new Voidforge bonus roll system. The Voidforge system is a brand new system using new tech that enables players to earn their desired myth track gear utilizing a bonus roll currency called Nebulous Voidcores to improve the player experience of gearing during S...

flint void
# neat lintel

not quite right on the forestwalk.

Making everbloom go more BRRRR

boreal karma
neat lintel
abstract tulip
gentle nova
waxen ingot
#

Guys can someone recommend me some game yall play when you are done with wow

#

since im pretty done for this season

gentle nova
#

i didnt spend my rolls cuz it was bugged now people with your luck just have 2 more free items over me lmao

tough portal
#

What kind of game bro

boreal karma
tough portal
#

I'm playing pokemon rn

boreal karma
#

Cause very few people got duplicates

abstract tulip
#

Tri peaks solitaire on my phone

gentle nova
waxen ingot
tough portal
#

For a while I was playing BG3 a lot, or other single player RPGs at the time, ofc.
CS2, lots of that lately.

waxen ingot
#

for the next 2 weeks or we it takes us to kill it

tough portal
#

But yeah pokemon and counterstrike for me ig

waxen ingot
#

I recently edited a video for my client of pokemon nuzlock soullink

#

that looked so fun

gentle nova
#

be fair

waxen ingot
#

people who used a token on a mythic boss

#

even if they get extra tokens

#

they cant rekill it

boreal karma
#

It’s stupid if they do it this way

gentle nova
#

but u cant get dups from a myth boss first week

#

so

waxen ingot
#

yeah but those rolls didnt count

#

apparently

boreal karma
wary belfry
#

Can still get a dupe next week ye

boreal karma
#

Worst Case they are neutral with the new Rolls best case they are up 2 Items and got the items they needed

waxen ingot
#

like you can still get the same item u got this week next week, if what i saw people say is true

gentle nova
#

okay so dont roll

#

the same boss

#

whatever

restive jasper
#

Hey guys, did you tested to take the Circle of Heavens VS Circle of Wild (Boom VS Cat) and use Boom only ?

waxen ingot
#

what does a resto druid that didnt kill crown yet / weont kill crown roll

#

other than chim

wary belfry
#

Worst case you get a dupe and youre actually delayed a week unless you roll something else

gentle nova
#

dungeons

flint void
#

basically the 2 rolls you did before 23rd april in the morning don't count and the items you got back can be rolled again

wary belfry
#

Since you can only kill once

boreal karma
#

Imo give everyone 2 Rolls or don’t give Rolls

neat lintel
#

Will I get a refund for getting duplicate myth chest even if I have it (not from roll ofc, but I still had it)

waxen ingot
#

if you used a roll in a dungeon

#

u will get a roll back

flint void
waxen ingot
#

afaik

gentle nova
#

thats intended

neat lintel
#

isn't it lazy way to implement bonus rolls? i shouldn't get any duplicates at all cases tbh

flint void
#

If you used your one/two rolls BEFORE the fix, you get one/two cores back

neat lintel
#

this is a 2 week charging currency...

gentle nova
#

sure, i think bonus loots suck

#

too easy to get gear, they shouldve been like mop coins

wary belfry
#

Its pretty op tbh

gentle nova
#

just a chance

neat lintel
#

I had myth track chest, and when i rolled on dreamrift mythic, i got another chest token, like wtf is this

polar lichen
#

it incentivizes some weird strategies

neat lintel
#

i feel robbed tbh

wary belfry
#

They could've just not had dupe protection and it still would've been fine

flint void
#

the only thing i think sucks about the system is that it shoudn't award you items you already had. if you already had a TIER chest and rolled on chim, you shoudn't be able to get a myth tier chest again

waxen ingot
#

Exploit early and often, and bug abuse early and often

neat lintel
#

sorry for posting one more time (last I promise) any other recommendations for 17 keys?

waxen ingot
#

even if the bug is bad for you

gentle nova
#

didnt roll cuz i have to pug myth chim

#

so i just got fucked

waxen ingot
#

everyone that bug abused in TWW got either more than an avg person

gentle nova
#

cuz i was holding my cons

waxen ingot
#

or more

boreal karma
#

Cause Lots of people disagree

#

With the way the handle it

#

Lots of people just get 2 free mythic items with that „fix“

gentle nova
#

yea lol

flint void
#

Loads of people will get 0 free mythic items, because this fix DOES allow you to re-roll (duplicates) of the items they got on wednesday with this fix

boreal karma
#

Maybe they just end up giving everyone

neat lintel
#

I also read somewhere you can get bonus roll from weekly vault vendor if you chose that 6 currencies you get when you have shit vault

boreal karma
neat lintel
#

Does anyone know about that?

boreal karma
#

It’s legit just Crazy for people that rolled

#

How can you not see that

bright swift
flint void
boreal karma
#

That’s not how it works what

#

That not how % Chance work

#

The ods of getting a Upside is way way higher

#

Unless you are one of the duplicate persons

#

But the Majority got no duplicates

flint void
#

the people who got very lucky with their rolls will get more items, if you rolled a Mythic alnseer before the fix, you're not going to roll on chimaerus again and you're up 2 items.

but if you did not for example get a mythic alnseer from chimaerus before the fix, you're going to be rolling again, and you will be able to get a duplicate of the for example offhand AGAIN

abstract tulip
#

Feelsbadman

midnight carbon
#

Would anyone be able to look at a log and give advice in what I coulda done better?

flint void
#

I got a staff and a crit/haste ring from NPX, they're NOT REMOVED FROM MY DUPLICATE POOL. if i walk up to NPX, i will be able to get another Crit/Haste ring of another staff, even 3 weeks from now

boreal karma
#

you either drunk

smoky grove
#

We really want to make this right as best we can, so we’re going to refund every Nebulous Voidcore that was spent before we fixed the issue.

--> does this mean i get them back even if i didnt roll a duplicate?

boreal karma
#

or troll

boreal karma
#

the chance of getting duplicates is in every single scenario lower then getting a new piece

midnight carbon
boreal karma
#

youre either NEUTRAL or get free items

#

how can you not see that

flint void
#

i see that, but most people will be neutral

boreal karma
#

nah

#

most people will get free items

#

xd

flint void
#

because they will get a duplicate NEXT WEEK

boreal karma
#

if you have 1 out of 4 items

#

youre chance of getting a free item is 3/4

flint void
#

no, i have 0/4 items in the dupe protection

boreal karma
#

But no one cares about the dupe protection

#

in that case

#

you still have a 3/4 chance

smoky grove
#

people that rolled early still get benefits

boreal karma
#

you legit only have positives

smoky grove
#

i mean ye there is a chance for a duplicate but also a higher for another free item

boreal karma
#

and its major benefits

neat lintel
#

So the refund is only for those rolled in m+, right?

boreal karma
neat lintel
#

Do I get a refund if I had duplicate in raid?

boreal karma
#

you cant have duplicate in raid

smoky grove
#

do we know when do we get them?

boreal karma
#

but you get refund

neat lintel
#

But I did

polar lichen
#

it doesn't count as a duplicate just because you already had the item

boreal karma
#

its also not based of duplicates its based of if you rolled first day or not

distant birch
#

You can only roll once

polar lichen
#

it's only a duplicate if you already had the item from a bonus roll

distant birch
#

How could you get a duplicator

boreal karma
#

bonus roll loot table is a own loot table basically

gentle nova
#

oh m+ logs idk

neat lintel
#

looks pretty duplicate to me

midnight carbon
#

The time the tank died that was due to me telling people to use defensives if they get riftstalker bleed with portal overlap

boreal karma
#

if you have items of the boss/dungeon you roll you can get items you have already

distant birch
polar lichen
distant birch
#

It doesnt look at what u got only what u bonus rolled

gentle nova
neat lintel
#

well ofc not, it is one bonus roll giving duplicate to item from before bonus rtoll

#

but it is still a scam imo

onyx trail
#

eu coin refunds out yet?

distant birch
#

Thats just how it works

#

It does suck tho but it is what it is

tulip nexus
distant birch
#

Getting tier is full shamble pretty much

neat lintel
#

yeah i think it sucks

#

i feel scammed

flint void
#

none of the rolls spend in the first day of the system being live are added to the dupe-protection pool, as said by blizzard here: https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/bonus-rolls-–-what-happened-and-next-steps/2296587

if you're going at worst-luck scenario in the chimaerus example, you got a mythic tier chest this week, and next week you're getting another mythic tier chest, the week after you're getting an offhand, the week after you're getting a belt, and in 4 weeks you're getting alnseer.

Someone who did not spend their reroll before the thing on Chimaerus and rolls this weekend witht he same rng will get them a myth chest this week, offhand next week, in 2 weeks they're getting the belt and in 3 weeks they're getting alnseer, this person has a advantage because they're getting their alnseer a week earlier

the only advantage that the affected player gets is a single dawncrystal/100g for their effort

World of Warcraft Forums

Hello! We want to follow up on our previous post about issues we encountered with the new Voidforge bonus roll system. The Voidforge system is a brand new system using new tech that enables players to earn their desired myth track gear utilizing a bonus roll currency called Nebulous Voidcores to improve the player experience of gearing during S...

tough portal
#

Wow players just wanna complain man anything blizzard does yall woulda found an angle to complain about it

limpid jacinth
#

Just spamming Rejuv is not the way to “keep up.”

boreal karma
#

that you dont see it

midnight carbon
smoky grove
#

are you lost?

boreal karma
#

is mind boggling to me

#

he must be trolling

midnight carbon
limpid jacinth
flint void
#

it's mindbogging that you're too blind to see that none of the rolls used before the fix were added to the dupe protection system

#

and that you're pouting

neat lintel
midnight carbon
limpid jacinth
polar lichen
#

so there's still hope!!

flint void
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even if you did not get duplicates, chances are you're still affected in that way, it's a database diff, the game was writing to the wrong database

boreal karma
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@flint void let me explain this to you
Person 1
Rolled twice m+ got 2 random items chest + ring out of 7 items so you have 2 out of 7 without any knockoff from loot pool
they get 2 new rolls and can POTENTIALLY get 2 other items which is likely to be a different items lets say offhand and cloak you have 4 items out of 7 and 2 are knocked off
getting other items is 5/7 compared to getting the same 2/7
Person 2 didnt roll early
rolled on second day and got off hand on cloak both people have knocked off 2 items and one person got 4 items and the potential of getting the items you actually want is way higher for person 1 cause person got 2 full sets of gambling

tough portal
boreal karma
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if you cant see this beeing a huge advantage

tough portal
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Spothealing during damage, Rejuv before damage / in between

boreal karma
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and the odds of having a advantage being way higher then being neutral

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you are delusional

polar lichen
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must be really good at gambling to get an alnseer from m+

weary tusk
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Alluneve is correct. He is not talking about M+, but about raidbosses you can only kill once

flint void
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^

boreal karma
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but even for raidboss

flint void
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"no but even for a raidboss", i'm correct. the person who rolled it on a raidboss yesterday will in worst rng, only get their item a week after person not affected

weary tusk
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Worst case, you can recieve gaze in week 21 instead of week 20.

limpid jacinth
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KERMYYYY

tough portal
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This is crazy man blizzard is giving people the highest availability of myth items of any season and it's somehow a complaining angle

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Just gettingg insane amounts of items

flint void
distant birch
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The only problem is

gentle nova
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well the complain is

distant birch
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I didnt roll on my alts before patch

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Before hotfix*

gentle nova
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people that looted on tuesday 2 items will loot 2 more items tomorrow