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oblique coral
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Haven't logged in yet

tough portal
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No I dont think so

frozen prairie
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idk doubt

vestal igloo
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You live in a fantasyworld

tough portal
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Tough

cunning atlas
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They said they'd communicate later if/how they're compensating affected players

oblique coral
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I'll pray

vestal igloo
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We all know we will just get a a few crests or w/e and ty

tough portal
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You're a fun guy arent ya

cunning atlas
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Wouldn't hold my breath, but the wording of the blue post implied it'd be more than just "fuck you see you next week"

frozen prairie
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1 year free subscriptions should be compensation

vestal igloo
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I am yes ty

short arrow
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Id be happy ic they remove the gear i rolled from the loot table

maiden sedge
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Anyone have a talent build for new owl weave spec without the owl :)?

hardy canopy
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they did compensate in the past for this type of bug

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just might take a while

cunning atlas
vestal igloo
hard loom
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Link build please, I need a fun run build for keys idc about

gentle nova
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omg im such a noob with grid

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how the fuck do i unlock the frame xdd

oblique coral
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*Newly rolled items will now correctly remove the item from the bonus pool. *
So that means all rolls from yesterday haven't removed anything for the pool πŸ˜‚

tough portal
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Oh unlocking it is goofy, you can just click the looking glass to create "testing" frames and it lets you move them

maiden sedge
tough portal
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Here in this tab on each of the layouts

oblique coral
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We’ll have more information to share tomorrow about this issue and the next steps we’re taking to remediate the situation for affected players.
Post from 5 hours ago, so who knows

vital patrol
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So i am Just on my way home, WE going Stalker in raids again?

vestal igloo
tough portal
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Did you really learn it tho

clever remnant
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also did u get ur equiped staff from vault? if so its not in the blocked lootpool from bonusrolls, if the systems works right

vestal igloo
vital patrol
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Does it Change anything "Rotation" wise or anyone Knows If so, are the known Guides are updated?

tough portal
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Smart fellas let other people beta test new features until Blizzard really fixes it up

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Fart smellas get duplicates

primal jungle
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😎

tough portal
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LB + 2x RJ and extend it all with Swiftmend on cd

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And it's that

vital patrol
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Thx ☺️

tough portal
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I didnt get dupes I just got the goofy ass heavy crit ring pepebutt

ocean rover
rugged lodge
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Anyone got a solid owlweaving talent build for m+? ❀️

gentle nova
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aint no way

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i just finished editing

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and now i gotta edit it for 20 man

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why is it showing 4 barks

tough portal
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Dif addon? Ironbark shows twice

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But 4x is crazy

gentle nova
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why shows twice?

tough portal
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It counts as a defensive and an external

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So if you show both on the same spot like I made mine do

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It shows twice

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Dont question it

gentle nova
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i dont have other addon

tough portal
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Blizzard's fault

simple rivet
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im lucky that danders dosent do it πŸ˜„

tough portal
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So you moved 1 and the other is still there

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My grid2 profile is art

tough portal
gentle nova
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im 1 inch to uninstalling

simple rivet
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i'm happy with it

gentle nova
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but we will persevere

tough portal
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Hahahaha

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Shoulda just started your own profile from scratch tbh

dense lantern
desert pilot
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Can you place individuakky each buffs at certain spot with danders/grid ?

tough portal
hardy canopy
simple rivet
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sure

swift garden
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Im trying to understand somthing, is dealing dmg now in moonkin does any healing? or is it just pure damage?

velvet cloak
gentle nova
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alr doesnt look so bad

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i see u i see u

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i just need to move the hots

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thats the worst part

simple rivet
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on danders the easiest πŸ˜„

gentle nova
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whats grid do that danders dont

simple rivet
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idk, used grid back in ancient time πŸ˜„

tough portal
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Some of them

gentle nova
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i need to start from scratch

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MAN

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i pay you 5000clp

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fix it

cursive pilot
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I' ve just been using theuns

tough portal
cursive pilot
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bit of a clusterfuck now

tough portal
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Wtf is 5000clp man

cursive pilot
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clubpenguin points

tough portal
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Wdym fix it it looks fine to me

gentle nova
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5000 chilean pesos

tough portal
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It's my profile mfer

grizzled seal
gentle nova
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yeah but i fucked it up

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now ironbark doesnt show

tough portal
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More or less than 5000 rupees you think

dense lantern
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Indian or zelda

tough portal
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Russian

gentle nova
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ok i need to delete and import again

tough portal
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So dumb I gotta go to bed

gentle nova
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me too man

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i slept 4 hours last night and its 5 am

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wtf am i doing

cursive pilot
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gaming

mortal vapor
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Any ideas when and how we use litany? Before ramp? And do we proc it just with wrath or whats the meta here

tough portal
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Imo easier if you just change what status is in what indicator

simple rivet
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love the designer ( yes u can use icons if u dont want sqares) , the setttings in dannders i like it

tough portal
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Instead of moving the indicators

tough portal
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Until its ass

simple rivet
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πŸ˜„

gentle nova
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does danders show 300 health absorbs private auras in paldins

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and 400 eclipses on lura

vivid peak
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you can make them small

shrewd jay
grizzled seal
gentle nova
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who knows man

grizzled seal
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It was fucking obnoxious on paladins yesterday

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I have my private auras to the right of my timers

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And these fucking absorbs just took the entire screen

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You heal them off and the aura doesn't disappear

simple rivet
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lol

gentle nova
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look at my afflicted face

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strugglin fr

tough portal
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The private auras indicator has a "first index" and "last index" setting which should mean you can make it only show 1 or 2 or 3 private aura icons at most

gentle nova
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how do i make my mouseover macros work with ur profile?

simple rivet
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yes i set it too 2 boss debuffes in danders and it should be bettter πŸ˜„ had no issue (but was not this week at palas)

gentle nova
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rn only click works

distant birch
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speaking about private auras, lura is great after patch at that

tough portal
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No idea why a macro wouldnt work

distant birch
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this shit is just permanently on everyone

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for no reason at all

gentle nova
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thats grid?

distant birch
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mine is

gentle nova
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can u not hide all auras

distant birch
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You can not show it but i kinda wanna see the private auras since thats where they hide all the mechanics

crude nebula
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was the rotation posted or pinned anywhere

grizzled seal
tough portal
velvet cloak
bright swift
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How does this even break on blizzard's end

shrewd jay
coarse mist
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Hello guys just a question as im noob . How does [Heart of the Wild] help you in raid? I can see a lot of ppl using this talent and not doing dps is there is any other benefit ?

grizzled seal
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There isn't anything to put talents into

lone basalt
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30% max hp for 20 sec when used in bear form

grizzled seal
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That's only useful on beloren so far

knotty goblet
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Dream of Cenarius loadout is WILD, tried it in M+ last night. A bit risky playstyle tho.

grizzled seal
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Using a gcd on bear form is kinda bad

formal flax
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How big is the buff in 12.0.5 to raid throughput?

grizzled seal
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Like 7-10%

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Pretty massive

velvet cloak
formal flax
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I looked at some logs and it's 15%, is it intended to be like this?

velvet cloak
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But it does pump a lot in aoe

grizzled seal
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Nothing we can do about it

tidal sigil
formal flax
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I'm just wondering if they'll say "oh shit" and revert changes, or throw in additional tuning.

knotty goblet
smoky grove
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Is there any discussion on what we should now play in m+? I see top runs with wildstalker + range build but also keeper + range build. Not sure what is really the play here and what are the differences

velvet cloak
fervent mica
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ws does more healing

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so do that if you want to heal more

velvet cloak
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Weave in swiftmends for cleaving regrowths

tidal sigil
proven phoenix
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literally covered my character

gentle nova
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thats not that bad tho

fervent mica
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hoovering up those absorbs is so much fun though...

knotty goblet
gentle nova
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my shit was unplayuable

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i was guessing

proven phoenix
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now that we're here also why is my grid showing sated debuffs on everyone

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how do I get rid of that

fervent mica
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alt + f4 should stop you from seeing it

proven phoenix
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πŸ‘

edgy glen
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If we say WS heals more than Kotg in Raid, do you we have any number, how much more, to get a feeling?
Like 1-5% more or 5-10%?

grizzled seal
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Hard to say, you just play differently

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Lower cd on swiftmend, can run tree, etc

plain steeple
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One Regrowth for an instant starfire?

stiff pollen
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is there a reason to have LB on myself instead of a single melee dps for better efflo value?

velvet cloak
stiff pollen
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not always possible, also requires much more movement on some bosses

fervent mica
fervent mica
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theres another 4% in class tree and ws also has a choice node with it

crude nebula
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anyone know why qe doesn't list mythic wep from NPX as an upgrade?

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is it because Im losing the embellishment?

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or its just lower haste?

fervent mica
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the embellishment. if you set it up with a crafted item with arcanoweave it'll pull ahead

crude nebula
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okay, so I guess I should roll cores as resto loot spec?

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I was gonna do feral for higher ring chance

fervent mica
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you would do balance if doing npx

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and could use staff

crude nebula
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ok thx πŸ™‚

fervent mica
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the resto trinket is pretty sad

narrow monolith
gentle nova
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Yeah i figured after raid

crude nebula
wheat cape
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Would it be possible for QE live upgrade finder to have the option of showing dungeon loot as myth track to make deciding where to bonus roll easier? πŸ™‚

grizzled seal
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I think that's a bad way to determine what to coin

crude nebula
grizzled seal
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You want to coin dungeons that will give you long term items you won't replace, not dungeons that give more upgrades right now

wheat cape
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Right but deciding where to start would only be easier if we had a quick way to find out where those irreplaceable items are most concentrated

grizzled seal
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You might think that coining a dungeon with all tier slots you are missing is the best but it's probably not

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I can tell you that it's better to start in NPX

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No sim needed

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You want a chest, ring and weapon from there that you won't replace

wheat cape
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Yeah I already did that on my resto druid but I'm figuring it out on my holy pala alt

grizzled seal
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Apply the same principle there

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Find dungeons with weapon(s) and jewelry you want

wheat cape
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Right, but it's less obvious where the irreplaceable items are concentrated

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if only we had an update to a tool we all use

grizzled seal
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I don't think a sim can do that, it has to be a hand crafted list

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For sim to know what is the end game for your gear it needs to know all permutations, which it does not

wheat cape
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I already bonus roll'd NPX twice on my resto druid and got the chest and a cloak

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and I will probably do it again next week for a chance at the ring and the gloves

grizzled seal
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Idk I figured it out for my monk in like 4 mins

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I want crit haste so found a dungeon with crit haste neck and ring

wheat cape
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what if it took 30 seconds?

grizzled seal
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I don't think there is a material difference between 30 sec and 4 mins when it takes 3 hours to use all your coins eventually at 15 mins per dungeon

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You do you though

wheat cape
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15x3 is 45

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is it taking you 3 hours to do 3 dungeons?

grizzled seal
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I assume you will use coins the week after this one

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I am planning to personally

wary belfry
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Am I stupid, why cant you just set the m+ ilvl to max in the upgrade finder slider

full wyvern
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crafted staff still holding and will hold or to be replaced with a mythic one? probably very very minor but wanted to check

wheat cape
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That would be nice. Or maybe if the upgrade finder on QE Live allowed us to set the ilvl to max myth track

novel sparrow
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What happened to restoration druid and why is it pumping that hard ?

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APEX talent finally usable?

wheat cape
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Yes it's usable in raid and is very easy to use

wary belfry
marsh prism
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average lb uptime of this channel 2%

wary belfry
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Just set it to 289

trim bluff
grizzled seal
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So this dude was whining and the system was in place all the time

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This is too funny

gentle nova
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Its easy to get healing out apex but this spec is too fucking hard

thorn whale
gentle nova
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So yeah have fun doing mediocre hps

wheat cape
gentle nova
grizzled seal
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I think people using that will coin wrong dungeons but hey man

wheat cape
grizzled seal
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Your coins, not mine

wheat cape
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More information to help with decisions is only a good thing

gentle nova
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Should i coin chim first

vivid peak
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did they do something with tts sounds?

marsh prism
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why are you so opposed to the upgrade finder

vivid peak
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mine broke

marsh prism
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no one has a brain anyway

fervent mica
marsh prism
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like a plain ass list literally requires you to also have a brain anyway

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same with the upgrade finder

wheat cape
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Maybe I might consider coining seat on my alt

grizzled seal
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I'm not opposed to upgrade finder, you just have to supplement it with your own brain

marsh prism
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you have to do that with every resource

grizzled seal
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Not really

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When comparing items I have I don't have to supplement shit

wheat cape
grizzled seal
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Just equip whatever it tells me to

gentle nova
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Still mediocre

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How much more do i press bro

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I need like 10 more cpm

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Unreal

wheat cape
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I don't understand why you're being such a contrarian about something someone has already thought was a good enough idea and implemented

wheat cape
gentle nova
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On lura my rg cpm will go to hell

grizzled seal
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I explained it to you at length

thorn whale
grizzled seal
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You refuse to accept my arguments, there is nothing I can do more

wheat cape
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Your argument is everyone is stupid

gentle nova
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If i dont move

grizzled seal
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No, my argument is the opposite

gentle nova
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I can swap from rejuv to rg

thorn whale
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You meant CPM of RG specifically

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?

gentle nova
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But

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Yes

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But

thorn whale
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I thought u meant 10 CPM overall haha

gentle nova
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Movement will be worse than wwr Druid

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This spec is shit designed

thorn whale
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Are u playing 2p

gentle nova
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No i dont have good pieces

thorn whale
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But you would

grizzled seal
wheat cape
wheat cape
haughty ibex
thorn whale
haughty ibex
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majority of the players misuses their tools lol

wheat cape
gentle nova
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But my mana

grizzled seal
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I make my own tools and I can tell you that when I was publishing it 99% couldn't even do the first load correctly

gentle nova
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Im taking the boomkin innervate

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Fuck it

grizzled seal
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First 2 innervates in my comp have to go to paladin

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Maybe I take the rest

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I do more hps anyway

gentle nova
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I got source

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Ill get the vates now

grizzled seal
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2 min convoke is so cringe

wheat cape
grizzled seal
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Give me one more point

gentle nova
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Yeah

grizzled seal
grizzled seal
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Link your logs

gentle nova
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So you saying youre bad

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Because any druid can turn mana into hps

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Like a lot of hps

grizzled seal
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This better not be a heroic raider trying to teach us how to play garf

smoky sail
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Are we playing 2 min convoke now ? Despairge

crude nebula
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jesus bro so im just playing since the patch

wheat cape
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My LFR logs are private

crude nebula
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TTS from lifebloom alert is SO quiet

thorn whale
gentle nova
crude nebula
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I increased effects volume to max but i can still barely hear it

grizzled seal
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This also fucks with root network btw

gentle nova
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I need to get better at it but yea

grizzled seal
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Less wg is probably -0.5% on that

gentle nova
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Im at 3.5+cpm

grizzled seal
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I had 5

thorn whale
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idk I was at 5.4 on crown and I'm just not sure if I can sustain that

gentle nova
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I wouldnt need to do shit if i had vates man

gentle nova
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I went into p3 with 30% mana

grizzled seal
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You can't even do 4 now

gentle nova
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But i think i wasted shit ton on intermission

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Maybe i just afk

distant birch
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is wg main thing to chill on if u are spending too much mana?

crude nebula
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first npx pull

thorn whale
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I think so

gentle nova
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Wg and rejuv

thorn whale
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Rejuv is just a get better angle

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Wg is press less

grizzled seal
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Rejuv increases rg healing

gentle nova
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I actually think pressing rejuvs is a lot of hps

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U just cant sustain

grizzled seal
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It is

gentle nova
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Like this dogshit rg play is just cause mana

grizzled seal
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What if we play keeper with prosp

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20% from symb can't be better than 20% more swiftmends

full wyvern
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you dont always rejuv though, sm > rejuv > rg

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get so many rj from sm

gentle nova
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So?

thorn whale
grizzled seal
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Thanks, man

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We weren't aware

gentle nova
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If you get a lot of rejuvs out your rg spam is stronger than just pressing it at 6-8

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But your mana is kaput in 3 mins

thorn whale
full wyvern
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its not as mana intensive once you are comfortable enough

thorn whale
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Bro

grizzled seal
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Lmfao

gentle nova
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Man what

grizzled seal
thorn whale
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I'd like to see how it looks once I get comfortable

grizzled seal
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I mean it is easy in i1 on Lura

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And p2 isn't that hard

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But p1 is insane on mana

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If you stand still you just grief

thorn whale
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Good thing I'm a monk then and can just drink tea garf

gentle nova
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P1 is insane cuz movement and no tol

grizzled seal
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Yes

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Just need to make it to tranq spot

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Then mana goes back up

gentle nova
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Forced to spam rejuv

full wyvern
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missed the part where its an end boss, then could be harder yeah

prisma grotto
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i was given news of resto druid being op and no longer playing cat
was this fake news Waiting

grizzled seal
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Do you realise we are talking about mythic

thorn whale
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I think no longer playing cat is fake news, might just be me tho

vivid peak
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i hate this starfire spam shit

prisma grotto
full wyvern
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no, thats what I just said

gentle nova
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The guy still doesnt get the point

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Like you can be very conservative and sustain your mana for the whole fight but if you had infinite resources you would do a lot more

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Thats what we were saying

thorn whale
spark river
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Its not

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Its just pad

thorn whale
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I really think you still play cat talents

grizzled seal
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Good for what

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Seems fine in +10

thorn whale
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Haha yeah that is true

spark river
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Keeper and doc for 10s is great

thorn whale
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I'd play it any day in a 10

bright swift
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No shot DoC is ever good in high keys

prisma grotto
spark river
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Not high keys ofc

prisma grotto
thorn whale
gentle nova
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Sometimes i am at 30% mana and be like man i wish i could ramp up 20 rejuvs for next hit but i know ill oom in 5 seconds

bright swift
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it's shit

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maybe in dungeons with little healing

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does that even exist

grizzled seal
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It doesn't even do enough healing in +10 when you don't have that buff up

prisma grotto
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with no deaths

bright swift
vocal vine
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our chest set piece is dogshit right?

bright swift
thorn whale
spark river
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I think its still cat because in high keys when you need to heal, you re basically doing zero damage. Cat makes it so you can bleed up and then go back to healing.

thorn whale
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But with 10x the effort

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And talenting into it

gentle nova
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Does key hps requirement just dont scale at all

thorn whale
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It just turns into oneshots

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Most of the time

gentle nova
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I remember i did 88k hps overall on a +10 mc with 240ilvl

prisma grotto
grizzled seal
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You also do way smaller pulls

vocal vine
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so i have the whistle in my vault and i use wind and alsneer hero trinkets it shows slightly better on qe
should i take the trinket or the bonus roll im not sure

spark river
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Your tank is not self sustaining in a high key lol

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hes fighting for his life

zealous scarab
gentle nova
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Also ehy is he missing around 10cpm

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Is he just afk

grizzled seal
prisma grotto
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do we care about wowhead

spark river
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Thats like not even that better than cat

grizzled seal
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Needs to talk to chat

prisma grotto
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cuz wowhead dotc build still plays with moonkin talents when i go click build

thorn whale
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So yes I do think we care about wowhead

prisma grotto
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and not cat at all

oak garnet
thorn whale
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But I personally disagree with playing caster dps

spark river
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From what ive seen high key players are still what they played before

oak garnet
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People are just tunneling the call of the elder damage windows and calling it op when it isn't

vocal vine
spark river
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They all think its just pad and not important

prisma grotto
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well guess ill try moomin out cuz i dont like cat

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we'll see how it goes

thorn whale
zealous scarab
vivid peak
spark river
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Im going to play keeper and doc in my 10s and do 40k dps but other than that I dont think much changes

grizzled seal
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It is easier to brain off with this tbh

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But too similar to monk

thorn whale
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I think I could be on a work call fully focused and do high keys on monk

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just fucking spin

oak garnet
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I will say druid after apex changes feels about 1-2 key levels stronger than it did before

zealous scarab
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I hurt my hand when I play monk. That one button spam

oak garnet
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With just meta ws build

vocal wagon
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Hi pals, does macro for: Nature's Swiftness + Convoke the Spirits still works well in 12.0.5?

errant haven
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some chinese guy did +21 MC with doc kotg caster talents according to raiderio

thorn whale
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Link log

junior mica
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Hi guys do we still use cat convoke
For damage?

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seems insignificant

oak garnet
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Yeah. They may try it out for testing but I think most will come to same conclusion: they prefer the old build

thorn whale
zealous scarab
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Kitty weaving just feels like home, really. All those years of it being better

thorn whale
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Doing damage to fking air for what

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18,8k dps for that amount of globals

spark river
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I mean his hps is 70k over the whole dungeon

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Thats pretty low

thorn whale
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It's just not it

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there is no shot

bright swift
errant haven
bright swift
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he is kotg

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and he uses instant starfire procs

vocal wagon
thorn whale
errant haven
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especially on crawth

spark river
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You simply cant on keys where you have stuff to heal

thorn whale
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Especially anywhere when your healing matters

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cause the amount of globals you need to do OK ST damage as cat is just way better

spark river
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Probably a mix could be popular

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Rake, rip and starfire sunfire talents

thorn whale
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Could be

errant haven
#

yeah 20 or 30k more pad dps is not worth it

wheat cape
#

if you're going to pad some instant cast stuff with blooming infusion, starfire does more damage than wrath

thorn whale
waxen ingot
#

well idk what high keys are :P

bright swift
#

19+

waxen ingot
#

But in my 18s i do 120k dps and we r not dying

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in aoe pulls ofc

gentle nova
#

@grizzled seal

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Lets go

grizzled seal
#

Is this keeper?

bright swift
#

that's honestly based

gentle nova
#

Ya

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With externals

grizzled seal
#

Isn't your regrowth going to be in the toilet

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So you just mash rejuv

gentle nova
#

Maybe

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And proc apex like crazy

grizzled seal
#

No way you have mana for that

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5 moonkins

waxen ingot
#

but this is a 17 and check my globals

bright swift
#

wow crazy clip (there is 0 damage)

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you're doing 80k hps

waxen ingot
#

if you have to heal anything

bright swift
#

yes but that's not the problem

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it's good when you don't have to heal a lot

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it's bad when you have to heal a lot and it's down

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you are playing 2 talents down

waxen ingot
#

I think with optimal play from the whole group

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this actually makes your key a good chunk faster

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maybe not pug friendly ngl

oak garnet
#

Doc: the highs are high the lows are low

waxen ingot
#

but i wouldnt pug anything in this game ever

oak garnet
#

That's probably true for the minority of players

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Most m+ is at least pseudo pug if not full pug

thorn whale
gentle nova
#

Is there an addon to tell your moonkin to innervate

waxen ingot
#

if i play correct

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but :P

gentle nova
#

I hate calling it on discord because i get memed after (this always happens)

waxen ingot
#

I dont think doc is a +10 only talent anymore

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Sadly

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i wish i couldnt do 130k dps and heal 130k by pressing 1 button on repeat

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not good for the game

bright swift
thorn whale
#

there must be an addon

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there is for PI

waxen ingot
#

also

gentle nova
thorn whale
#

@waxen ingot If you have the log from that key then send

waxen ingot
oak garnet
waxen ingot
#

so it was never timed since there wasnt a single run we did

oak garnet
#

Seems like you go all in if you go doc

waxen ingot
#

where warlock didnt ninjapull

oak garnet
#

Kotg etc

waxen ingot
#

with his apex pets

rocky lodge
#

do we still stack haste?

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ive been told to stop going for haste gear

thorn whale
#

but also moments like this

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if ur hunter is not full health

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even through defensives on a higher key

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they're just fking dead

waxen ingot
#

i mean ofc

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but you do 100k instead of 130

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and this never happens

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i just kinda memed it since it was our 5th run

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look warlock pet compilation

thorn whale
#

But I wanna see what are u actually doing to the big mob

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And what is your boss damage

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Cause I don't believe doing 130k dps the the shitter mobs here speeds up your key

oak garnet
#

Bosses you play like normal

waxen ingot
#

There are alot of non prio mob packs

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in dungeons

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ofc in prio packs its useless pad dmg

oak garnet
#

The Value is in starfire cleave not wrath spam

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Obviously

thorn whale
oak garnet
#

Yeah pm

waxen ingot
#

and when i saw the buffs i thought its like maybe 40/60k dps

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but im doing 90k every single pack non stop

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idk its sad

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and i want to go back to TWW S3 cat

oak garnet
#

With lust and pot I did 250k first pull Wrs

waxen ingot
#

i mean alot of this is just fake and useless but so is cat at this point

thorn whale
#

If you send me a log from a 20-21rn, where they play KOTG and it's not just pad damage and they dont spend 50 globals on it

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I can be convinced

waxen ingot
#

you can say the same for cat

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what do they do ST in 20 21

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25k maybe?

thorn whale
#

20-25k with 33% of the globals

oak garnet
#

Yeah the globals are wasted either way. But m+ logic would be as long as you have enough healing to live

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The rest can be damage

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Problem is in my experience people die

oak garnet
#

Doc can't cover for bad play like default build can

waxen ingot
oak garnet
#

Outside call

thorn whale
thorn whale
#

Can you tell me what a Rotling is

velvet cloak
#

Last boss big add

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IIRC

thorn whale
#

Small adds, surely

velvet cloak
#

Thought they were called something else

waxen ingot
#

i mean he did pure 20k ST

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and 3x the dmg cat can do AOE

#

even more than 3x

#

and whatever fake healing it was, its better than going cat and doing 0 healing ( From hps / safety perspective)

bright swift
#

idk man

#

these keys are not tight on time at all

#

just living is enough

gentle nova
#

Funny that the top healing is doc in a high end key at 20k hps

#

When in raid highest healing spell is 50k+

waxen ingot
#

its 3rd highest with 15k

oak garnet
#

Well I mean

waxen ingot
#

on bosses as well

oak garnet
#

It's 5 people

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Vs 20

#

So...duh

waxen ingot
#

nuh

#

not how it works

gentle nova
#

You dont heal 20 people in raid

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At once

oak garnet
#

You heal more than 5

gentle nova
#

With less mastery stacks

thorn whale
#

compared this one

vocal vine
#

harreks advanced raid frames is broken after patch for hot tracking, any other alternatives?

thorn whale
#

8.8 + 4.7 + 3.2 + 0.5 = 17,2 CPM of damage, also being locked in cast
= 5,5m damage to boss

4,8 + 2,9 + 2,4 + 0,5 = 10,6 CPM of damage
= 4,5m damage to boss

vocal hinge
#

do we have opinions on what to play for m belo in .5? ive only seen 2 logs in .5 one is convoke one is tree lol

thorn whale
#

Top one being Doc caster thingy

waxen ingot
#

Donby i love going cat more than anyone

kind star
#

man I love new patches... danders seems to work fine so far tho but getting alot of disconects and LUA error D:

waxen ingot
#

but u cant deny what is the truth

kind star
#

I got disconnected and couldnt even strafe anymore and the camera was funky af

thorn whale
#

Bro if Doc was better I would play it

#

idgaf what I play

#

I just don't believe it to be the case

gentle nova
waxen ingot
#

At worst its competitive

bright swift
#

Mattiu saying to play tree

#

hell is freezing over

thorn whale
gentle nova
#

Tree is better for belo i shouldve played it

vocal hinge
#

well if mattiu says to play tree i'd better listen i guess HAHA

thorn whale
#

I just don't believe it speeds up your key in title range

bright swift
#

how do you even play tree now

waxen ingot
#

i mean it obv is if its top heal in a 21, it kinda carries thrash

bright swift
#

do you just play without reforest

waxen ingot
gentle nova
#

I guess

bright swift
#

conveniently excluding the bosses

waxen ingot
thorn whale
#

Alright let me rephrase

bright swift
#

bosses are usually the hard part of a dungeon

thorn whale
#

I don't think the time you gain on trash is worth the talent point investment

cunning parcel
#

can someone with nice auras foor elvui please send me their settings im losing my mind trying to fix this private aura sht

thorn whale
#

Compared to the ST damage and healing you lose on bosses

fleet jewel
#

ChinaCat why arent the top CN players using doc

oak garnet
#

If one person dies ever in a run

#

You've lost your advantage

oak garnet
#

If they could have been saved playing ws standard build

gentle nova
#

Thought they were

waxen ingot
bright swift
thorn whale
waxen ingot
#

overhealing < doing pad dmg

#

ofc

fleet jewel
oak garnet
#

I don't trust the people I play with enough and neither should the majority of gamers who read this chat

thorn whale
#

And my guess is that you won't be able to just passive heal in title keys

oak garnet
#

Imo too high a risk of flopping off the call proc

bright swift
#

China didn't even get the reset until today did they

#

like

#

what

#

their reset is thursday

thorn whale
#

Maybe I'm wrong, but I'll be running cat until I'm convinced haha

oak garnet
#

Will be curious to see what the top key hero spec breakdown looks like over the next few weeks

thorn whale
#

Which I'm not at this point

waxen ingot
#

Just looking at numbers Apex procs + starfire is so much healing in aoe

#

like it overheals so many spots in current keys

fleet jewel
bright swift
#

I'm not sure

fleet jewel
#

lemme check da vod GlorpDetective

quasi stirrup
#

bois where we sending our bonus rolls in? nexus?

marsh prism
#

depends what you have but np good

bright swift
#

very depended on what you are

fleet jewel
vocal vine
#

anyone using harreks advanced raid frames?

quasi stirrup
#

are we going to get 2 bonus rolls every week?

vocal hinge
daring sparrow
#

if you play the annoying moonkin dmg do you have to put moonfire on each target in aoe?

stoic hornet
#

any advice on bonus roll spending?

thorn plover
vivid peak
kind star
#

so erhm stuff like buggrabber/bugsack dont work right? how do I find out whats causing all those lua errors :/

fleet jewel
kind star
#

Im literally getting spammed by 1000 bugs under 5sec randomly T.T making me disconnect and stuff

vivid peak
#

dungeon casts addon was causing alot of issues for me today

kind star
#

ill try removing platers ig.... default frames are AWFUL tho

kind star
#

I only got danders/lba/dbm/platers, I couldnt even move after a DC it was horrible.

stoic hornet
#

tried like 4 times and getting DC at exact same point when boss cast one specific ability

#

turned off all addons and still happened

kind star
#

I hate new patches breaking everything ! I was just trying to hit 90 in timewalking, instead I got a deserter smh

thorn plover
#

Did you update all your addons

kind star
#

ofc I always do before playing

#

seems fine atm without platers :/

thorn plover
#

Check the plater profile you use for updates, or get a different one..they broke some functionality that some plater profiles were using

blissful goblet
#

Plater had like 3 updates on patch day lol

marsh prism
#

beloren time soonge

#

ina few min

thorn plover
#

You streaming?

marsh prism
#

yeah

kind star
#

ight will do thanks! cant wait to catch up to people and start raiding rdudu looking kinda hot

quasi stirrup
#

whats our new st dps rota

thorn plover
spark river
#

where lba tts fix

kind star
#

I miss my lightsaber sound effect

thorn plover
#

Doing northern sky's TTS "fix" works. But then you have no other sound except TTS

onyx holly
#

Any cool new builds that include tree + this boomie build that I can yoink and try?

prime girder
#

can we pin this so it doesnt get lost? even temp?

thorn plover
#

It is pinned

#

In the FAQ pin

#

It's not the most intuitive thing to find, but it's basically just assumed no one checks pinned anyways

prime girder
#

oh cool, didnt know

#

ty

thorn plover
#

Even when we pinned the apex changes, every other question was about them, so πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

lament river
#

Are blizzard working on the "silent" tss - its so annoying that the voice of "lifebloom" "convoke" is so low.

rose topaz
#

With Lifebloom, if we're only casting on the tank, could you focus the tank and just set an @focus macro?

thorn plover
#

You're more likely lifeblooming yourself now

#

In raid atleast

#

And in m+ you definitely want to be able to move it around

rose topaz
#

Doesn't moving it lose the stacks.

thorn plover
#

Yes but that's pretty minor

rose topaz
#

Ah, so you just put it on whoever needs topping up then?

thorn plover
#

Putting it on whoever needs extra attention

#

Think 2nd boss skyreach

rose topaz
#

Got it

thorn plover
#

Put it on someone soaking a beam

#

There are times you'll move it, and times you'll leave it on the tank all the time

rose topaz
#

Someone who is or is going to take extra damage

thorn plover
#

Yes exactly

plain steeple
thorn plover
#

Or like if multiple debuffs go out and you can only dispel one, put your LB on the other one

rose topaz
#

Ah, so use it to help the one who's going to take the damage that you can't get rid of

marsh prism
#

ok

#

i like this boss

#

i like ws

#

i do miss control though

thorn plover
marsh prism
#

i didnt reaslise how good it was

fair shard
thorn plover
#

Been lots of discussion about it on here. I don't take it, but I'm not doing title keys ATM either.

#

I think it's a waste of a talent personally, but my opinion means nothing

slow smelt
#

Is there a way to track elder druid cd

thorn plover
#

2 mastery stacks on someone with full hots is useless

heady wigeon
#

Hello Lads. Iam playing with danders but i dont See all debuffs, e.g. WRS Bird Boss. How is that?

thorn plover
fair shard
slow smelt
tidal sigil
#

Is it possible to get mob ability cd's on nameplates?

#

To prep for damage

thorn plover
#

Nope

tidal sigil
#

Hmm is this new in 12.0.5? Saw lota (Chinese servers) the other day before reset have something that looked like old plater

wise galleon
marsh prism
#

no solution for it is fully functional

wise galleon
#

but yeah you cant know before they start casting it

#

so you have to already be prepared

marsh prism
#

i think thats a base nameplate feature now anyway

#

or maybe not

#

but thats definitely an essential addon to have

#

that definitely functions

teal jungle
#

What kind of embellishments should I consider? Currently have Hunt on my 2h craft and Arcanoweave on my belt but I just got a 2h myth with Leech so just wanted to sim it. Just 2x Arcanoweave?

marsh prism
#

yes

tidal sigil
teal jungle
#

Cheers

marsh prism
#

!deepfry

#

fry my ass

split knot
#

first pull of windrunner spire in a +15 - the tank goes in and starts pulling, lust happens and arcane salvos melt the team - what do i need to be doing? i usually LB/IB the weakest DPS and hot when I can (to not pull healer aggro) but it seems to still tear through the team

vestal lotus
#

is there a way to sim HPS and not DPS for us healers on the sim website?

cursive pilot
split knot
cursive pilot
#

Doubt it if they got melted

round hull
#

When I am trying to compare my parse to someone else's what am I primarly comparing? Specifically how times they cast spell "x" vs how many times I cast it?

brittle sedge
#

is there a macro where I can cast regrowth when I mouse over a player frame and like moonfire or wrath or something if I hover over an enemy frame?

stable verge
#

And pray to god for kicks

#

First few seconds are much scarier than the upcoming 30

#

And obviously if there is a Dh, ask for darkness

versed stone
#

debuff is the pressure point in this pull not salvo, if ppl without debuff die to salvo on 15 then there is much trolling

vestal lotus
#

you guys like haste or mastery more?

bright swift
#

yes

split knot
#

or should I not be concerned of rejuv triggering heal aggro?

vestal lotus
#

because ive been stacking more mastery than haste

chilly kiln
#

im having mana problems on raid, any tips?

versed stone
#

if you start pressing buttons when 3rd and 4th grps are pulled then that's too late

thorn plover
thorn plover
vestal lotus
#

@thorn plover hey has there been any issue with your lifebloom alert since patch? since the patch I feel like the alrert comes out really quiet now

thorn plover
thorn plover
#

Was told they're working on it

vestal lotus
#

your alert whispers asmr into my ear now

thorn plover
#

For now you can turn your effects volume to 100% but RIP your ears

echo token
#

hey guys this is my tree pre-changes. Is there anything i should look at changing? I kind of prefer cat weaving instead of starfire

haughty ibex
#

if u are a nelf even better…

split knot
#

qq would you put the hots on before the tank even enters the room? like during countdown of the m+ key?

light wing
ocean wedge
#

hi guys, i just download LBA (lifebllomalert) and drop it on wow/retail/interface/addons. I launch my game, see it on my addons, but it didn't work. Do the addons need another one to work ? or do i have to activate something to make it work ? Thx

fading herald
split knot
#

ok let me try that - i still think the arcane salvo dmg is likely out pacing my hots

slow smelt
light wing
#

πŸ˜„

thorn plover
#

Hoping for a fix today

#

/LBA to open the options

split knot
#

cool ty

haughty ibex
#

i usually dispell 1, im left w 2 debuffs, I convoke 1st aoe

#

tranq whenever u feel is needed

#

if dps with debuff + aoe doesn’t press defs let him die cba

ocean wedge
icy sphinx
#

is there anywhere i can put some logs to get advice? im stuck on why others regrowths are hitting so much harder

thorn plover
thorn plover
lean cave
#

oh no I bonus rolled xenas as resto
am I cooked or can I still roll as balance next time

split knot
haughty ibex
#

rule n1

icy sphinx
west stag
haughty ibex
#

ari u are so smart

thorn plover
split knot
#

yeah which is why i wish we were allowed to track defensives FeelsBadMan

haughty ibex
#

im half joking, I didn’t read the keylvl but in some cases it is true

split knot
#

it was a +15 in my case

haughty ibex
#

healers should base their CDs also on dps personals CDs available

#

it’s 1st pull so doesn’t really apply, but in lots of situations should be like that imo

haughty ibex
#

i think pressing smth on that first pull is mandatory even in a 2

#

is the principle

lean wedge
gleaming spoke
thorn plover
#

That's how our mastery works

icy sphinx
#

OH MY MASTERY! i didnt compare stats...

#

lmao, that will likely do it :)
im about 500 short :))

ocean wedge
thorn plover
#

Did you enable the icon in the settings

#

I can see in your picture you have it disabled

#

Play with the settings and see what things do

ocean wedge
#

Done, thx

narrow ruin
#

Raid night felt awesome

formal plaza
#

In the 12-15 key range… what’s the best use of Lifebloom? Keep it on myself, the tank, or move it around? Or… is there no definitive answer?

prime jacinth
#

I keep it either on tank or myself, depending

hushed sand
#

Good morning! I have been struggling with an issue that goes back to last season when I started playing retail. I used Cell at that time and DF now. Not sure if it is entirely related to raid/party frames or not, but anytime I am near a lock gate, you better believe I'm going to take it. I am absolutely not clicking on the gate, but I am using some sort of click-casting on my frames at the time. I haven't dialed in on which "click" is making it happen, but it definitely happened with a mouse scroll (bound to rejuv) up last night. I have tried with no "control shard" and with one bound to a different key that I don't use. I cannot figure out why this happens, and it drives me insane. Happened 3 times in one pull this week. Any ideas?

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On another note, someone mentioned yesterday, or the day before, that you could export a "phase dependent" reminder from wowutils. You provided a link. Can you guys point me in the right direction? I'm not sure I'm doing that correctly.

whole horizon
#

it would be easier to tell with a vod.

tulip nexus
pure jolt
#

Guys in M+ do we rather moonkin weave than catweave now? I just did a +15 POS and I ended up with 10k dps lol

whole horizon
#

when you use the wowutils timeline CD editor, the timeline is separated by phase. simply adding your CDs and exporting the note will make them dynamic, they work that way by default iirc.

#

@hushed sand

#

the note will have p1/p2/p3 tags at the beginning of each line so you know if you did it correctly

haughty ibex
frosty canyon
#

searched and didn't see this discussed, does the buff to the eagle eye ring enchant mean anything for us?

pure jolt
#

Did 12.0.5 change anything? are we still catweaving or using spells in m+

obsidian bridge
#

Is anyone else losing there abundance stack buff tracking in there cdm mid pull?

whole horizon
#

nope

pure jolt
kind star
#

literally the first thing in FAQ how to do dmg in M+

frosty canyon
hushed sand
whole horizon
#

yeah looks exactly like mine

hushed sand
#

cool cool

ornate pollen
#

is starfall ever the right button to press in M+ in this pool?

vocal vine
#

can someone help me i use default party frames with advanced raid frames addon for hot tracking, but i keep seeing blizzards icons

prime jacinth
#

Wait sorry, I read starfire lol

cursive pagoda
#

dang idk whether to cat weave or go caster

#

cat weaving is a lot more interesting

ornate pollen
#

I guess it's right if you go keeper

#

but seems wrong on just about every ws pull

stable verge
#

But in general if you get agroo from a few rejuv .. tank is weird

ornate pollen
#

a lot of tanks are very weird then

#

nelf master race

kind star
#

hell yeah

stable verge
#

Imaging not being able to meld stuff

ornate pollen
#

I cannot

stable verge
#

Damn right

kind star
#

trying out caster build atm simpler for my smoll brain

stable verge
#

Need to test Kotg + coed on lower key to blast gigadamage for fun

split knot
#

on a diff topic, anyone know what article petko is talking about here

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either my search skills suck or wowhead really sucks at finding these things

distant birch
#

Dis?

split knot
#

nope - not that

#

i saw that one, the article petko is talking about breaks it down by class not dungeon

distant birch
#

Might be secret petko tech

split knot
#

mfer didnt even link the article FeelsBadMan

distant birch
#

Last try

rustic copper
#

bis list Poggiegasp

thorn plover
#

There's roll advice on the main resto druid guide

#

Gear section

split knot
#

yeah looks like the section is copy pasted into the class guides now

tired flame
#

Just making conversation. I know the author of the feral guide is on Dreamgrove, is the resto author here as well? If so, just giving thanks

drifting timber
#

how do i increaes these tranqs?

tired flame
#

do you have access to overhealing? I'd consider your total healing potential more than what actually went out if you're focused on optimizing a rotation.

drifting timber
#

access to overhealing? like as in.. % on the pull/

tired flame
#

Is that direct healing number the total amount of health being added to bars, or is it healing + overhealing

drifting timber
#

I think it's direct? this is the overheal on the pull for tranq

compact bluff
#

quick question, its been quite a while since I played resto, its quite comfortable in m+ but how do you all learn to heal in raids - I feel like i'm under performing constantly

spark river
#

Read a guide, watch pov from good players

tired flame
fervent osprey
tired flame
#

kind of why I asked about overhealing to that other guy. You could do everything right but push the button three GCDs late and do no healing

untold fractal
#

Who do you use swiftmend on in mythic+, is it always the target with lb?

spark river
#

Almost always the lb targrt with vi

frosty canyon
#

I tried the new spec in raid and I was good

spark river
frosty canyon
#

I guess it's all relative considering you have an orange parse on imperator

spark river
#

Anyone can get 99 on averzian if you 3 heal

hushed sand
tired flame
spark river
#

You re losing globals by doing that

hushed sand
#

I like to try to squeeze another WG in before the Chim soak before hitting Convoke. I'm then a second or two late and basically do no healing.

fervent osprey
tired flame
drifting timber
hushed sand
tired flame
#

that makes sense. So our panic button becomes Nature's Swiftness regrowth?

drifting timber
#

Do you think it comes down to Northern Sky and the CD timing of when the dmg is coming out? If there's like a base line time frame like (5secs) before dmg comes out that i should be using convoke or a (6sec before dmg) with tranq that'd really help as the pulls vary slightly based on how the dps brings the boss's hp down

spark river
#

It can only feel better not worse

#

Our hps number go up while the playstyle is the same

tired flame
tired flame
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just need to feel out where you are. That's just my $0.02 for healing normal and heroic where heal sniping and lack of damage skews parses